Behringer DeepMind 12D Synthesizer Review and Demo

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Sean Divine

Sean Divine

Күн бұрын

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@behringer
@behringer 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice review video Sean! We're glad to hear that you are enjoying it so much. :)
@SPAZZOID100
@SPAZZOID100 7 жыл бұрын
sbmphr overdubbing is your friend. 🤖🤖🤖
@SPAZZOID100
@SPAZZOID100 6 жыл бұрын
sbmphr muktitracking is your friend. 👍
6 жыл бұрын
@Behringer and @Sean Divine, were I can buy the part for put my deepmind 12d in my rack???
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 5 жыл бұрын
Javier Orduña it includes rack ears
@SPAZZOID100
@SPAZZOID100 5 жыл бұрын
sbmphr not practical.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I was going to go for a Prophet 6 desktop, but seeing as the price drop on the Deepmind 12D brings it down to $600, that's a no brainer. Sorry Sequential, going to have to wait for a while, the Deepmind 12D looks like my next piece. I like the fact that I can control all aspects of the synth with the computer. I can stash it somewhere and not have to touch it. Great review!
@harrymerchant8944
@harrymerchant8944 7 жыл бұрын
Superb Synth, worth every penny. I went for the Desktop, I just think it looks fantastic, sort of 1970's furniture.
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 7 жыл бұрын
agreed :)
@Mike__G
@Mike__G 2 жыл бұрын
I subtracted all hardware from my synth setup and decided to go completely with software. The quality of soft synths now is such that the sound is indistinguishable from hardware. It is often said that soft synths lack the hands on feel you get with hardware. So I added an Expressive E Touché to my setup. This, along with macros eliminates any issues with hands on. You can do a lot with the Touché. That said, I always wanted an ARP 2600 since my teens in the 1970s. And Behringer’s 2600 proved irresistible. So I added this back in. Turns out, the 2600 was something of a gateway drug. I recall wondering way back in my youth what it would be like to have a fully polyphonic analog synth. Interesting that the Deepmind 12 provides an answer to that question. I think Behringer has done a great job with this synth. So this was another bit of hardware that I added in. And, of course, I couldn’t resist the RD-6. I think I’m really, really done with hardware. Famous last words maybe?
@anoniconoclast2030
@anoniconoclast2030 5 жыл бұрын
The unique aspect of the deepmind is it has a "set back in the distance" sound. Lots of vintage analogs sound right up in your face which is great, but the deepmind's softer distant sound is a great contrast. It truly has depth.
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 5 жыл бұрын
agreed! love the reverbs and vibe overall - it can have a quite aggressive and "upfront" sound, depending on which FX you use (or don't) 👍
@anoniconoclast2030
@anoniconoclast2030 5 жыл бұрын
@@SeanDivine Its got a great Roland like tone that works great for arpeggios but I have never heard it sound "upfront" like say an Arp or Prophet Five. Desktop for me.
@MaybeAnnatar
@MaybeAnnatar Жыл бұрын
5 years after you posted this, the DM12(D) is still basically a class leader.
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine Жыл бұрын
Will be a classic 👍
@mastaboog749
@mastaboog749 Жыл бұрын
was offered one of these used for half price for what it goes for new, this video might decide if i jump or not. Wifi??? wth!
@deanbr6ndo70
@deanbr6ndo70 5 жыл бұрын
Just got mine.now ive been through all the presets,most of them are drowned by too much reverb,the thing is,you either like them like that or not.if you turn off the reverb, the patches are just gorgeous,really analogue,way better in my opinion.
@Rolanoid
@Rolanoid 6 жыл бұрын
Nice to see Behringer raising the bar and also reducing the cost. My Roland JD-XA only has a 1 year warranty and the included editor is nothing like this one.
@ciggaar
@ciggaar Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative review of the 12D, looking into it for use with a letter! Just one question; could you use MIDI learn with it?
@johnsteuerwald3640
@johnsteuerwald3640 6 жыл бұрын
Just got one, a welcome addition to my collection. I heard you can connect this to a second synthesizer. I have a Marixbrute, have you tried using you deepmind 12D in conjunction with an other synthesizer? Could you do a video on that?
@davetoms3011
@davetoms3011 5 жыл бұрын
Great review. I have a pretty advanced home studio, softsynths from Spectrasonics, Arturio, Komplete12, Korg legacy collection etc, and dont need any more keyboards (have a roland RD2000 as main 88), Korg Kronos 61, Novation Nocture49. Looking for hardware synth controls to integrate with Omnisphere 2.6 that now can integrate around 60 hw synths. I think the DeepMInd 12d module is a perfect fit. Thanks for the indepth and honest feedback about this synth.
@Internetp_
@Internetp_ 5 жыл бұрын
Forgive me I am still learning but do you mean like you can use your deepmind to control Omnisphere or you use it as a add on?
@issiewizzie
@issiewizzie 4 жыл бұрын
Same here ..I need the cheapest way to control Omnisphere and enjoy the hardware too
@spicetbedhead
@spicetbedhead 4 жыл бұрын
I love it! This might be my only physical synth that I'll own ;)
@ELEVATETHESKY
@ELEVATETHESKY 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent review dude! Thank you! I'm getting my Deepmind tomorrow and can't wait. It sounds so beautiful and you can't beat it at this price point. What compression are you using on your voice? It sounds so nice and warm and thick.
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 5 жыл бұрын
thanks! this was just the dsp compression on my RME interface
@sensium9757
@sensium9757 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I've got my DM12D today. Just like you, I've worked a lot of digital. Now I have a good addition to it. Kind regards
@woodswalker88
@woodswalker88 6 жыл бұрын
Does it have empty banks and a way to save a group of patches for performance? And quickly navigate to them?
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 6 жыл бұрын
hi Laura, there are not empty banks out of the box but you can reset existing presets to be blank and save to whichever bank you like. Navigating through presets and banks is very quick.
@christianschroer1999
@christianschroer1999 3 жыл бұрын
Stupid question : can I connect a midi - controller with it ? XD
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, sure can!
@christianschroer1999
@christianschroer1999 3 жыл бұрын
@@SeanDivine thanks then I can Connect my full 88 Hammer Keyboard with it. Amazing
@stoatystoat174
@stoatystoat174 Жыл бұрын
:)
@impurfekt
@impurfekt 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for putting together the review. I currently have the Deepmind 12 keyboard and love the sound. However I had to send it in to Behringer for a problem with one of the keys. As it was my main keyboard in the studio I'm hurting. So I'm considering getting a standalone MIDI keyboard and the Deepmind 12D to avoid this situation in the future. What I want to ask is how easy it is to rack mount? The unit looks 5U tall but I can see the cables sticking up. What do you feel would be the minimum amount of rack space for the 12D? It looks like I'd need at least 6U to allow clearance for the cables and vents. I can use right angle audio cables so that would help.
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 6 жыл бұрын
It includes rack ears, easy install. It's 5U tall but I have it in a 6U space and that's the minimum you could work with, considering the AC adapter / USB stick up from the unit about 1U
@PeresD
@PeresD 3 жыл бұрын
This is what M Audio Venom should have been,easy to access parameters , right from the front,and software for deep diving.
@johnadams5489
@johnadams5489 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent comprehensive review. Quick enough demo without getting bogged down with unimportant details. It sounds great, and I like the fact that the 12d can be rack mount or table top. I have enough keys and the DP model keeps the price down, I can use a controller I already have. Its great that you keep up with questions about this unit. Price does not break the bank and is a synth I can add to have a little fun in my Senior years. Thanks!
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks John, enjoy 👍
@rhampton1914
@rhampton1914 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent...You did a Fantastic Job Reviewing this...Awesome..Really enjoyed your Vdieo....i'm gettn one
@skallamoosh
@skallamoosh Жыл бұрын
Hi, i know this is a late post but can you please confirm if the 12D desktop version has wifi and can be used with an ipad for selecting FX etc. Thanks
@peppesedin1765
@peppesedin1765 11 ай бұрын
I´m about to buy one but can´t find the MIDI imp. The more CC the better. And if the knobs sends midi it´s no brainer. Thanks!
@williamshaneblyth
@williamshaneblyth 3 жыл бұрын
I love the fact you can stack voices all twelve or 2 or 3 or 4 or 6 so it can still be poly if you want plus then u where you can adjust quite a few settings to make it even more analog with drift percentages and the same across filters or even all the settings subtle or crazy
@kevingamache1512
@kevingamache1512 6 жыл бұрын
do you feel having limited wave choices on the osc's diminishes the usefulness of this machine or is it still hitting the sonic marks for you? i tell ya i like the sounds fo sho
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 6 жыл бұрын
hey Kevin, I also own a Virus and have owned many other synths with more oscillator options... the deepmind is very versatile and I've made a wide range of sounds that don't feel limited by the oscillators at all
@kevingamache1512
@kevingamache1512 6 жыл бұрын
Sean Divine thanks for the quick answer. I have heard and read that folks aren't to happy with the Keybeds so I am interested in the desktop as you have . right now my only analog is the korg minilogue. I do want another with greater polyphany. I also have a Casio xwp1 which I dig and the roland d05 which I love. I really appreciate vids like yours. thanks again play on
@Estica-Live
@Estica-Live 6 жыл бұрын
this synth" already looks vintage; like from 1970 with computer fans; 2 bit LCD screen and MS DOS software editor^^ nice review; thmb up for more,price drooped to a reasonable amount today" eg 2018 late so...maby..
@mattsynth
@mattsynth 6 жыл бұрын
Not many rack mount analog synths out today and especially one with 12 voices. This is a winner for anyone looking at that factor. Price is incredible, I still can't believe it is possible to have all that power for such low cost. I just hope the quality is there because Behringer is not known for quality products.
@networkservices3121
@networkservices3121 6 жыл бұрын
I have owned one for a while now. No issues. Seems well built. Steel and wood. It pairs excellently with a JD 800!
@e.m.b2834
@e.m.b2834 2 жыл бұрын
@@networkservices3121 the concerns are more about the shoddy soldering and poor components on some units..... the exterior quality is great but the guts is what matters
@BritoWorx
@BritoWorx 5 жыл бұрын
Great review! Question where’d you get the rack mount unit for the synth?
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 5 жыл бұрын
it was included 👍
@WalterSchwarzElectronicMusic
@WalterSchwarzElectronicMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Great Synthesizer !
@danwool
@danwool 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I'm curious about the noise floor on your unit. Mine is pretty noisy. Even using the balanced TRS outs it still puts out a lot of hiss. Also, the balanced outputs are out of phase on my DM12d. When summed to mono the the gain drops dramatically. Reversing the phase on one channel or the other fixes it. Assuming all DM12's have a similar issue, I'm wondering if Berhinger could remedy with a firmware or software fix...thoughts?
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not getting any substantial noise but there is a slight hiss. It's barely noticable unless you crank the signal. Also, I've noticed that if you leave certain patches on the effects units produce some noise / artifacts. I can't speak on the phase issues you're experiencing because that hasn't been the case for my unit.
@danwool
@danwool 6 жыл бұрын
Actually I just realized I must have a reversed balanced cable. Using different cables eliminated the phase issue. I just started using the synth and haven't recorded much. Maybe the noise won't be an issue. Thx!
@networkservices3121
@networkservices3121 6 жыл бұрын
Almost all analog synths produce a slight hiss just above the noise floor. This is a result of the input voltage is an actual part of the production of sound. This is also why analog synths can sound different from one model to the next. Everything effect that sound. But a slight hiss just above the noise floor is a very common occurrence on almost all analog synths. It is a large contributor to the rich warm sounds that analog produces as compared to the very clean and pure sound of digital. Both attributes are very important to production of high quality timber. Neither should be considered a limitation.
@roman2374
@roman2374 3 ай бұрын
You could try going through a DI before hitting your interface 😊
@KarzenX
@KarzenX 6 жыл бұрын
2:55 Eno
@ChazSeamus28
@ChazSeamus28 4 жыл бұрын
wish i had that editor on my sub phatty.. thing is a nightmare. not to mention the firmware is shot as well
@georgedavidson5789
@georgedavidson5789 2 жыл бұрын
It has been 4 years since this video was made, I wonder how you feel about the module today?
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 2 жыл бұрын
Still own it, still feel it's an amazing synth for the price!
@notmychannelname42
@notmychannelname42 7 жыл бұрын
Wait a second, did you just say built in WIFI?
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 7 жыл бұрын
Fool 😁
@danielel9191
@danielel9191 2 ай бұрын
Hi there Sean, thank you very much for this video. I am about to buy it and I am wondering how you connect it to a keyboard like a midi controller from arturia essential keylab 49. It only has a midi out in the back and I am a bit confused about what inputs to use if I want to play and record it in Logic Pro.
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine Ай бұрын
It has midi in (and usb). Connect the midi out from your controller to the deepmind. Route the audio outputs to inputs on your interface. Create midi / audio tracks accordingly in Logic Pro.
@RoKneMusic
@RoKneMusic Жыл бұрын
Where can i download the Editor?
@kronossonork6994
@kronossonork6994 4 жыл бұрын
Can you compare to ASM Hydrasynth? Thx
@powermix24
@powermix24 4 жыл бұрын
Hydrasynth is purely Digital with 8 Voices and sounds thin and this Deepmind 12 is purely Analog with 12 Voices and can get lush sounds and warmth.
@musella974
@musella974 7 жыл бұрын
I plan to buy A Deepmind 12 or 12D, because I'm sure I can create very beautiful sounds with it ! But before, I've some questions : I've read the user manual, but, unfortunatly, I'haven't seen the answer. 1°/ I usually use my synths in MIDI mode, connected with my PC and Cubase. I record my playing and I built my performance (track after track). Well, Deepmind 12 has 12 voices, but, all the 12 voices have the same MIDI channel ? Or, as the Roland JD-XA, each voice (part) has its MIDI channel ? 2°/ Is there a seller on Reunion Island ? (It's a little french tropical island near Mauritius Island and Madagascar, in Indian Ocean) 3°/ Between the Deepmind 12 and the Deepmind 12D, is there a difference or they are exactly the same synth (except the keyboard, of course !!!) Because the keyboard version is more than 10 kg and it's very expansive to carry in my island...
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 7 жыл бұрын
Hi! the Deepmind 12D is not multi-timbral (all voices are for one midi channel). there are no feature differences in the 12D and keyboard version to my knowledge.
@musella974
@musella974 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for your prompt answer.
@blackburn1111
@blackburn1111 5 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to control it with more than one midi controller? I want to use two Arturia Keysteps simultaneously, set at different octaves, if possible. This is due to size restrictions when traveling.
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried this... anyone?
@matienazemy1382
@matienazemy1382 5 жыл бұрын
How do you connect the Deepmind 12D with you DAW?
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 4 жыл бұрын
it has usb and wifi for midi - I run the audio in through my interface and can control it with the included remote software
@rapidfiremuzik_official
@rapidfiremuzik_official 6 жыл бұрын
I will DEF look into this desktop module!!!! 😍😍
@FDWhitehurst
@FDWhitehurst 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful workstation desk. Where did you get it?
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 6 жыл бұрын
thanks! it's a custom build
@networkservices3121
@networkservices3121 6 жыл бұрын
It is a very nice desk. I was thinking the same thing.
@hassanbayomy7566
@hassanbayomy7566 6 жыл бұрын
Thoman has a similar desk, qualitywise cant say if its comparable.
@DJSidhu24
@DJSidhu24 7 жыл бұрын
Give a brief demo on your equipment and how did you connected all of them to one another and your mac configurations and external hdd company and external compressors and limiters and equalisers. give your whole studio setup tour bro please
@NewLoops
@NewLoops 7 жыл бұрын
Very nice and the software control looks great too!
@martinvegas1327
@martinvegas1327 7 жыл бұрын
ERA-N and ERA-R to get rid of fan noise bro!
@Maulleygxxx
@Maulleygxxx 6 жыл бұрын
They market as 4u rack spaces, but I’m guessing you need more space for cables, correct?
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 6 жыл бұрын
correct, my space is 6u and it's just right given that the AC / midi cables stick up from the top!
@Midi-olo-gist6758
@Midi-olo-gist6758 6 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this video. You're very knowledgeable, and I've learned a lot from you in this short time.
@moviescolin
@moviescolin 6 жыл бұрын
As a composer, I was looking for an analog synth that could provide sequencing as well as large atmospheric pads. I would love to get this unit someday - and I'm more in love after seeing it rackmounted. I have a Nektar LX88+ controller, so I don't need another keyboard. I do have one question though - it looks like it takes up 5U rack spaces. Is that correct?
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Colin, that's correct it's 5U
@moviescolin
@moviescolin 6 жыл бұрын
Very cool! Thanks for the quick response.
@patriciaoudart1508
@patriciaoudart1508 2 жыл бұрын
I search the same device that this one for the same reason you explain, sound, long fat tones, no color, no keyboard because I Have 88midi enough , and not satisfied by computer apps. Nice video!
@MRPTHESLAPSTATIONLLC
@MRPTHESLAPSTATIONLLC 7 жыл бұрын
67th like
@priyankwaghela5749
@priyankwaghela5749 2 жыл бұрын
How to connect mod
@CYBERWOODVIDEOSTUDIO
@CYBERWOODVIDEOSTUDIO 3 жыл бұрын
sounds nice. do you get the rack ears with it >>>>
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@RhoanHalfist1
@RhoanHalfist1 6 жыл бұрын
A good review thanks. Where did you get the rack ears from, or do they come with it.
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 6 жыл бұрын
they're included :)
@gmcenroe
@gmcenroe 6 жыл бұрын
This seems like a great synth at the price offered. I will definitely keep this one in mind. Also like the software integration with Mac and link to Logic. Thanks for the review.
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 6 жыл бұрын
sure thing Glenn!
@Iredidv
@Iredidv 5 жыл бұрын
excellent review man thank you :)
@woodswalker88
@woodswalker88 6 жыл бұрын
I have the Waldorf Blofeld Desktop and all it has is MIDI IN. I'm thinking of replacing it with this, and wondering how it would work as a sound module for my Deluge.
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 6 жыл бұрын
hi Laura, the Deepmind has midi in, out and thru + USB. I haven't tried the Deluge but I use the USB midi on the Deepmind and sequence with Logic. Works great.
@janaee9564
@janaee9564 5 жыл бұрын
this is not true. waldorf does have midi cc out via usb
@dman030
@dman030 7 жыл бұрын
is it my imagination or does the 12D sound better / cleaner than the key version? what do you guys think? seems a little different. starting to get gas for this. hah
@harrymerchant8944
@harrymerchant8944 7 жыл бұрын
No, exactly the same. But imo it does look better. In fact way way better.
@networkservices3121
@networkservices3121 6 жыл бұрын
IN retrospect I do kinda wish i went with the desktop version. However it is a fairly light synth easy to move. Kinda nice to have a light easy to transport synth, even with the smaller keybed.
@thechronicnoizeco.6675
@thechronicnoizeco.6675 6 жыл бұрын
Phat
@PhotonSCX
@PhotonSCX Жыл бұрын
As with all analog synths, it's worth it if you don't already have one. I would have liked a demo of its polyphony with reverb off and long R. Analog synth sounds differ the most by their filter, given no recombination/hybrid/matrix of input waveform. I would have liked an exploration of that the most; there are many good reverbs these days and synth makers shouldn't fall into the trap of "user only has this 1 synth I just sold him" but should look to this the most to provide him with creativity. Overall a great release by Behringer apart from that, everyone who doesn't have this amount of sliders and knobs in their studio should get one - again, only if the sounds complement what they can't already make. Or steal.
@DennisVlaanderen
@DennisVlaanderen 6 жыл бұрын
Im quite interested in this synth, but I was curious about one thing. How is in mounted in a rack, is it possible to slot in more gear directly above the unit or do the cables stick up too far in order to do so?
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 6 жыл бұрын
hey Dennis, it requires 6 rack units including the cables and yes they do stick up :)
@DennisVlaanderen
@DennisVlaanderen 6 жыл бұрын
Sean Divine thanks for the answer, nice to know this upfront instead of finding out after you planned out the entire rackspace! :)
@swiftmello123
@swiftmello123 6 жыл бұрын
Simply Put watch this review it is excellent.
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 6 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@navigator8222
@navigator8222 4 жыл бұрын
Man you sound exactly like a youtuber EpicNameBro. Same accent and everything ha.
@digitaldiezel5870
@digitaldiezel5870 5 жыл бұрын
I think I’ll be owning more Behringer equipment than I ever anticipated. I normally fawn over other synths that are more expensive. But this is performance at the right price, and size.
@mbezik
@mbezik 5 жыл бұрын
do you still own the 12D and if so have you grown to love it even more or have you found any problems using it?
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 5 жыл бұрын
Still own it, still love it 👍
@mbezik
@mbezik 5 жыл бұрын
@@SeanDivine ordering mine today
@ZiadSidawi
@ZiadSidawi 5 жыл бұрын
What turned me off as an analog sound enthusiast was the built-in patches that were smeared with all those effects. Upon turning off all the effects then slowly working from a default patch, the power of this synth started to shine.
@ClaudeDjale
@ClaudeDjale 6 жыл бұрын
Nice review Sean, thank you!
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 6 жыл бұрын
no problem Claude!
@benrothschild6074
@benrothschild6074 4 жыл бұрын
The question is could this bus power my launchpad pro...
@pipper_papper
@pipper_papper 5 жыл бұрын
do you know of any rack cases that would take this and eurorack modules together? the axis is the opposite
@janpieternieman5295
@janpieternieman5295 4 жыл бұрын
Which one is better? the Sledge 2.0 or the Behringer deepmind 12.
@Inf7cted
@Inf7cted 5 жыл бұрын
😏👍
@markfennah4322
@markfennah4322 Жыл бұрын
Excellent exposition - thanks you 😊
@smeti
@smeti 3 жыл бұрын
just about to get one in addition to my Novation BS2, pretty excited !
@erichkohl9317
@erichkohl9317 7 жыл бұрын
Nice review -- curious, is that a Nektar controller?
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 7 жыл бұрын
sure is!
@erichkohl9317
@erichkohl9317 7 жыл бұрын
Just bought one myself. ;-)
@Inf7cted
@Inf7cted 5 жыл бұрын
Man I like this synth...
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 5 жыл бұрын
👍
@deanmccormick5642
@deanmccormick5642 2 жыл бұрын
Word Sean, thanks for this review, can you use the 12D without external keys/midi etc? Meaning, can I drag it to a studio without DAW/Mother keyboard and simply play saved sequences via the play button/other?
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 2 жыл бұрын
You can sequence arpeggios but you still need a way to trigger them with a midi input. It doesn’t have a dedicated sequencer built in.
@SolidtraxNL
@SolidtraxNL 2 жыл бұрын
Great demo and review of this rackmount 12 voice DeepMind. Personally love the OS very much. Its well designed and has all kinds of clever stuff built in. Hopefully @Behringer will create more own takes on classic synths or combine several old designs to create new fresh designs like this one.
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I’d love to see more original designs!
@mattsynth
@mattsynth 6 жыл бұрын
I really do not need another analog synth besides my Moog Voyager & Prophet 12. The Deepmind12 keyboard version would be a good board for just about anyone. You cannot beat the price. I just hope this is built better than the last few Behringer products I have purchased.
@RoomAtTheTopStudio
@RoomAtTheTopStudio 6 жыл бұрын
Got to agree with you on that one. If you got the Voyager and Prophet 12 you are good. Deep mind 12 does seem good especially for the price. After a lot of debating though I'm going for the Prophet Rev2 to go with my Sub37 and a Korg Arp Odyssey and I'll be happy
@djTorchLive
@djTorchLive 7 жыл бұрын
How would you compare the bass sounds to something like the Moog Phatty or 37?
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 7 жыл бұрын
hey James, I've only used the phatty briefly but Moog basses are tough to match in terms of low end. the Deepmind does some nice bass patches but it takes a bit of extra work to get that thickness in the sub freqs (using the boost option on the filter, EQ in the effects section, etc.)
@harrymerchant8944
@harrymerchant8944 7 жыл бұрын
Heres the thing about Moog bass. They are big, difficult to fit in the mix in quite a lot of genres, and dare I say a bit overrated. I've owned a Voyager (very boring synth) and a Little Phatty, a bit of a one trick pony and I tell the truth when I say neither of those synths I could ever make work in the mix. Maybe its just me, but I dont think so. Now, the Behrinegr wont do the big fat bass the Moog does, but it will give you bass that fits in the mix across far more genres. I think to many see analog synths as just a bass machine and this really isnt the case at all. The Deep mind will probably give you what you want and a lot more. I would choose it over the Moogs you mention any day of the week. Oh one last thing, the synth I have that does excellent bass and fits in the mix like a glove is the Korg Arp Odyysey. That is one brilliant mono/duo synth
@djTorchLive
@djTorchLive 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Sean, thanks for getting back to me. Have you tried some of the offerings from Roland and Elektron and what are your thoughts if you did? I know they have less voices but if you could get along with only a 4 voice analog synth would it make it harder for you to make a decision?
@djTorchLive
@djTorchLive 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your input. Did you try out the Elektron Analog Four or Keys also? I know they're only 4 voices versus 12 but I was looking at them too. They seem to have a really cool plugin interface to control their hardware.
@SPAZZOID100
@SPAZZOID100 7 жыл бұрын
Harry Merchant why is it that moogs have been used on THOUSANDS of records if it cannot be fit into a mix??
@musicanddesign4731
@musicanddesign4731 2 жыл бұрын
Now I'm sure … I'm gonna buy one but it will be the Deepmind 12. Amazing sound! Great video Sean.
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy it! :)
@bobcatt2294
@bobcatt2294 6 жыл бұрын
While adjusting the filter and oscillator section: 5:17 where are the numeric values being presented - I see nothing on screen which shows how much you are adding or trimming.
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 6 жыл бұрын
I'm in a program menu at that point, not the mainscreen. It will show otherwise :)
@user-wf4nl2yy8x
@user-wf4nl2yy8x 4 жыл бұрын
Is there an analog drum sound
@PatrickCoble
@PatrickCoble 6 жыл бұрын
No Android app to be found.
@FaidedBTB
@FaidedBTB 3 жыл бұрын
Does it come with the rack mount sides?
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@funkmachine6420
@funkmachine6420 7 жыл бұрын
Good review. Would be interested in the keyboard version myself!
@networkservices3121
@networkservices3121 6 жыл бұрын
The keybed is kinda bouncy, it is the only complaint i have. Once you are used to action. It is not so bad. Then again. I prefer to play on the wonderful action of the KRONOS. I have a nice yamaha controller 88 note. Action is WAY heavy though.
@smeti
@smeti 3 жыл бұрын
Sean, can you please tell me where did you buy those rack mounts which you have on your table ? those 6u ones ? I'd like to mount it similar to what you have but I just can't find these anywhere
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 3 жыл бұрын
I can't remember where I ordered them but if you just search '6U rack mount ears', you should find them :)
@smeti
@smeti 3 жыл бұрын
@@SeanDivine thanks
@andrebrown4677
@andrebrown4677 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review Sean, feel like own it already! 1 Question - Can you add your own samples(WAV Audio) into the Deepmind12 to modulate/FX etc. Also add your own sample with the Preset Blend software feature
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 3 жыл бұрын
hey Andre! the deepmind does not have internal sampling and there's no audio input
@andrebrown4677
@andrebrown4677 3 жыл бұрын
@@SeanDivine Deepmind will still remain on my Wishlist, Thanks for the quick reply dude!
@siturn1
@siturn1 6 жыл бұрын
Got the keyboard version. As far as I'm concerned its genuinely a no-brainer. What an incredible piece of kit. Its def. not a case of cutting corners because the price is low in comparison to its more expensive counterparts - this thing is amazing. Do check one out - I'm a great believer in try before you buy, but I doubt you will not be impressed. As for the onboard effects.....
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 6 жыл бұрын
agreed Simon, they just dropped the price to $599 on the desktop... I have no idea how they're producing it at that low of a cost but for what's included, as you stated, it's just simply a no-brainer :)
@thegoony
@thegoony 6 жыл бұрын
@@SeanDivine Just ordered mine here in UK £544 :)
@bluenetworks1216
@bluenetworks1216 5 жыл бұрын
Simon Turner what about the built in effects do you think they are bad ? I’m thinking of purchasing one
@bertvdlast
@bertvdlast 5 жыл бұрын
Nice machine. If i hook it up with a 6 octave keyboard will it still only play 4 octaves?
@aleksandrpulse2867
@aleksandrpulse2867 3 жыл бұрын
Не убиваемая машина .🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Treaiser
@Treaiser 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sean.. Great review
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 5 жыл бұрын
:)
@jumpingman8160
@jumpingman8160 7 жыл бұрын
to be quite honest I have zero knowledge of synths. If I wanted to have this as my first synth, I would be in deep trouble to start a sound from scratch just by looking at the panel. Correct me if I'm wrong but to start a sound from scratch you have to press two buttons that aren't label as "New" or something like that, at the same time... and the layout doesn't seem to flow in a logical way from left to right [something like: step 1 [raw sound waves to choose from ] , step 2 [sound wave modulation/modification] step 3 [fxs]... It seems like a very powerful [and great sounding] machine... but I would be completely lost. :(
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 7 жыл бұрын
Hey David! Sound design, like mixing or producing can be intimidating at first. Once you learn the basic concepts though, most everything will translate across other synths. Personally I don't look at it so much as a step by step, linear process but moreso it's simply listening and reacting (and knowing what does what). Like many processes in music it's both technical and creative; you have to develop your own tastes, know what you're aiming for and have the knowledge for how to get there. Anyways, it's really not so bad once you start learning and this is actually a relatively easy synth to program. Have fun :)
@drstupid1
@drstupid1 7 жыл бұрын
David if you watch "once upon a synth"'s KZbin videos he shows how easy it is to make patches on the dm12 and how to get loads of different classic sounds and use all the features
@harrymerchant8944
@harrymerchant8944 7 жыл бұрын
Nah, just twiddling the knobs and you will come up with good sounds. Very easy to programme, you dont need knowledge, that will come as you work with it.
@jumpingman8160
@jumpingman8160 7 жыл бұрын
Harry, yes but I would still be lost understanding how it functions. Lucky me, since I wrote this comment I was explained how the majority of synths function [the basic idea behind its logic] by a good friend of mine who - curiously enough - is also quite anal retentive about how synths are layed out. :D
@Thequornsdrummingworld
@Thequornsdrummingworld 6 жыл бұрын
Excuse my ignorance, but can one just use a midi keyboard to control the module , would that have to be through one's DAW? what connections are available to control the synth via a midi keyboard. I will be using a Roland A 800 Pro controller to access my soft synths, how would this work with this module? Thanks
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 6 жыл бұрын
yes, you can use a controller only - it has midi, usb and wifi connections
@hebernascimento8790
@hebernascimento8790 4 жыл бұрын
does it sound like moog sub 37 ?!
@nahn111
@nahn111 3 жыл бұрын
nothing sounds like Moog, that I know of.
@HeberMN_
@HeberMN_ Жыл бұрын
@@nahn111 actually there are a lot of synths with the same sound, some may sound even better, like apparatus or the last eat behringer with the ladder filter
@bitley
@bitley 7 жыл бұрын
I love your review style. Would you review my Kontakt 5 Fairlight library in a similar style if you got it? I will also let you have my DM12 patches. :) Best Patrick
@sammaddison2085
@sammaddison2085 6 жыл бұрын
Hey man, the deep mind sounds as good as i've heard it in this video in overall sound quality. Could you tell me of any processing you might have done in this recording?
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 6 жыл бұрын
hey Sam, no processing done on the deepmind tracks :)
@solomonjenkins9505
@solomonjenkins9505 6 жыл бұрын
what the fuck do I want wifi in my synth for...why am I paying for this...well it's quite simply because I want hands on control of a polysynth x.x
@josephwright5921
@josephwright5921 6 жыл бұрын
Because WiFi gives you access to 100 effects parameters that would be unrealistic to have knobs on the front panel
@sK3LeTvM1
@sK3LeTvM1 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. As an 'oldie' in this matter, I wonder why you were disappointed by the use of digital synth (racks) Like 30 years ago, I owned a professional studio were as you could find the ultimate collection of nowadays very sought after analog synths. Jup8, M12, Chroma Rhodes & Polaris, Mini's (2x) OB8, OBx, MemoryMoog, AX60&80, P5, Linn9000, DMX, 909,808,TB303, SH5 and many more... Because of several (...) reasons at that time, I sold all the analog stuff and gradualy replaced by digital synths. Only for the sake of money I regret I've sold those things long ago. It would have made me a fortune today... It is an endless discussion, but again with this D12, I do not hear sounds that are so called sound 'warmer' or 'better' then i.e. my V-Synth or JD990, Virus and many more digital synths I own now. I do not hear things with an OB6 and many more recent analog stuff that can not be done with i.e. a Jup80, Virus TI, Novation Peak and other similars. Sounds are equal, as fat and warm on condition that you know how to program those VA's ! Sometimes people ask me what I use for bass in my music productions as they say it sounds so fat and warm. You should see their faces when my answer is : the Novation V-station...in combination with Lynx DA's and Waves plugins...and fat it sounds. Thanks again for your review. The whole 'analog' matter is mythical. Believe me.
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 6 жыл бұрын
I understand what you're saying... own an older Virus Indigo and love it. Can it make sounds similar to the DM12? Absolutely. There's still something in the subtleties and imperfections of true analog thought that are hard to explain. It's a bit more unpredictable and has distinct character to it. Can it be replicated to some extent? Yes, but I admit at times it's more fun to have the real thing :)
@jedimindtrix2142
@jedimindtrix2142 6 жыл бұрын
Hmmm. Never thought much about physical synths outside of live performance. You have now found one more way to burn more holes in my wallet lol.
@JBreezzBeatz
@JBreezzBeatz 7 жыл бұрын
This thing is insaneeee
@SeanDivine
@SeanDivine 7 жыл бұрын
:)
@MinimalWave1982
@MinimalWave1982 7 жыл бұрын
i really want to like this synth but so far i didnt have heard anything which blew my away..
@SPAZZOID100
@SPAZZOID100 6 жыл бұрын
MinimalWave1982 $850 for a 12-voice analog. Game changer.
@networkservices3121
@networkservices3121 6 жыл бұрын
Got mine for 725.00
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