Behringer X32 - Board Setup Case Study - Jerry

This is a video of a board setup from start to finish of routing a normal band that is mobile on the road. I have explained mixbus setup with monitors, subgroups and effects send, matrix setup with x-over filters for L&R Mains and a subwoofer send.
I made this video late at night, so I might have rambled on a bit too much ;-).
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[@johnwibbens4962]

Drew - Your tutorials have been my "Savior" when learning to mix with our X32. This edition is helpful but it would be REALLY helpful if an updated version using the current level of software upgrade were available! I realize you are likely paddling as fast as you can but perhaps an opportunity to create a 'New & Improved" version might present itself!

[@safestackin]

God bless your soul. I DON'T even have one yet and after TWO videos from this group. I feel like I total understanding of device mind you. I'm just old school dj about to start a home studio. Thanks so much god bless.....

[@esp1344]

super helpful thanks a ton. I'm used to working on analogue boards and although ive worked an x32 before ive never had to set one up from scratch. I got called to do an event where I'd have about an hour to set up the board and do sound check while other people set up the mains and monitors and all the hardware stuff and i was really freaking out but i feel like i can do it in 15 minutes now.

[@DrewBrashler]

You're welcome! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@BrynmorBand]

Great work Drew, love your X32 videos.

[@stephenalexanderboyd]

heres hoping much of this valuable info can be transferred to my x32 rack and iPad app, will find out soon enough

[@PastorCourtneyMusic]

I really appreciate your videos! Thank you!

[@downmartyunder]

Great video! Helps me a lot to setup my S16 and X32 core.

[@DrewBrashler]

Correct, you would just use Matrix 1, and not link Matrix two. Also you wouldnt need to have stereo subgroups, you could use a single bus for drums, single bus for vocals.

[@BarnabY07]

Hi Drew, Thanks for this tutorial which it's still helping in 2020. Can you explain a little more why you're using a stereo group in this case if the signal is the same both left and right ?

[@DrewBrashler]

Hey Aaron. The ambient mic isn't something you are sending through the mains is it? If you have the channel muted on the board, it will not pass any audio even into the subgroups. Are you trying to record USB off of the USB drive on the top of the board for a thumb drive? Or are you trying to use the X-UF card for recording?

[@kcroyaljosh]

Drew, I used this video to setup our X32 because it was almost the same. The question I have for you is can you put an EQ on the L/R main and have it process FOH. I guess the real question would be in this setup where would you put a FOH EQ?

[@DrewBrashler]

Yes very much so! I will message you and you can email me the scene and I will take a look at it. Thanks!

[@hans-jrnjensen4520]

Thanks a lot, that was a Big help to get my new Producer up running Quick :-)

[@ToddWCorey1]

When using assignable buttons to mute vocal FX, a great trick is to mute the FX send instead of the return. That way your reverb or delay tails die off naturally instead of abruptly.

[@psaasan]

Hi! Thanks for a great introduction to x32. I followed every step of the case study in17 minutes, until the part where you are routing all channels to the Bus Sends. Can not find the where I click on 7-8-9-10-11-12. Assumes that this is shown on an elder version of Edit X32.

[@AaronKelley]

No, the ambient mic is strictly for recording to get a better board mix recording. It's also unmuted and unmuted on the sub group like it should be. I'm trying to record it through usb through a flash drive. I recorded the drums through the matrix mix like I wanted that is feeding from the sub group. So, the sub group and matrix is working fine. I just can't get the ambient mic to send through it for some reason. Would it be easier if I gave you the scene file?

[@alfredhorner8530]

Hi Drew, I love the board but since I have used nothing but analog boards for the last 45 years, I'm slowly getting my head wrapped around the awsome capabilities of this digital one! You have a very easy to understand way of relating info for this board! I have watched all of your videos and they have helped me a lot especially the "case study" for Jerry! I set up the board with X Edit but I can't seem to get it working! May I send a file to you and you can tell me where my mistakes are? Thanks

[@AJMaXx14]

Fantastic videos! You explain things logically, and I am awaiting the arrival of our X32 in our newly remodeled church. Going through these videos has helped me understand more of what I have been missing using an old system that isn't digital. I have started to map out on the computer using x32-edit how the layout of the channels will be, but really looking forward to hands on with this board. Keep up the great work on this subject. Use God's gift you have to the fullest! I noticed on another video that when you went to setup the drum mix that you were running it from the computer instead of live drums. Can you explain that so I don't have everyone on the worship team there just to dial them up for the first initial settings? Thanks!

[@marcomizzoni8323]

Great video, so helpful!!!!! Thank you

[@michaelhardee494]

Very well done.

[@paulmorrey733]

Thanks Drew

[@moshikbenuzi]

Thank you very much for this

[@rushyeskansas]

very cool video Drew!!!!

[@Waiderlynx]

This is the best tutorial for x32 i ever saw. Thank you a lot! Its actual for now? Are you still use the same setup now , or something has changed?

[@GrooveLabs]

Question abt the subs and routing. You mentioned using Output 14 on the back of the x32 for the subs. Wouldn't it be easier to line out on the back of the QSC153 directly into the 181s rather than sending a separate feed to the mains and subs. Or does that negate using the matrix setup you describe. Thanks for the case study too, that was helpful

[@djpraise3]

Hi Drew. Thanks for making these videos it's super helpful. I'm trying to setup my x32 rack kinda like how you are doing it here. My question is when I'm trying to send the channels to the bus to get global eq or effects I can't just click on the busses like you are in this video around 17:46. I have sliders left side is a full bar and the right side has a split in the middle. Sorry if this is confusing thanks for all you do!

[@DunamisLifeChurch]

is your subwoofer connected to a seperate bus or is it connected to your main speakers and run through bus 15 and 16.

[@DrewBrashler]

In that particular setup that I was showing, Output 15 and 16 were the left and right outputs. Output 14 was for the subs. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYSzfZKhrLWIoM0m38s

[@matholiver1]

Drew, you send mono bus to reverb, and get stereo return. The return is It really stereo? Or just dual mono...? Just one more thing... please make a video showing ho to use a x32 rack as monitor stage, and x32 full as FOH, not only how setup the board, but how you would set the channells... thanks a lot and God bless you.

[@DrewBrashler]

Thanks!

[@jegmusic08]

do you have a video on complete recording studio set up? your videos are amazing, I have got to be the dumbest person on earth when it comes to digital but your videos are so clear with your erections even I can understand them. that you so much for helping us out. God bless you brother.

[@tele2018]

Is there a download available for this case study? In the process of getting the X32 replacing our analog board. Your videos are really good and I'm learning a lot even before I get the new board. Having this download would give me a good start to build on. Thanks

[@LAMCC]

I am using X-32 Rack for my church and having problem with interfacing USB to computer. I could only get channels one and two coming through and the rest of the channels were not working. Firmware has been updated to 2.16, tried so many options, re- routing card but have no luck yet. please advise. I am using X32 Rack with S 16

[@marcomota2130]

hi drew thanks for your video.. one question: can I use logic, play individual tracks and make them route to individual channels to the mixer, or the card can only support inputs to record on the pc and not work as in and outs? thanks

[@gruporabipepemata]

Great video thanks

[@a1auctionshop]

New York!? That's cool! If there is any chance that you could show me how you do that because I want to set this system up the best possible way. My last DriveRack PA2 had vocals coming out in the subs when I used the Subharmonic Synthesis(which sounded great with the band) and I couldn't find any crossover to fix it except not using that feature when our singer was singing. I then got ahold of the dbx company about the problem and that's when they brought my attention on the 360. If the way you set it up is better or simpler than using the Matrix please let me know and how. Thanks again Drew :) Larry

[@MightyLighty555]

Hi Drew, great video. Quick question for you - when would you use the DCAs and when would you use the subgroups during a show? I appreciate the need to grab a whole number of channels to adjust a particular instrument but I don't really understand the need for DCAs and Subgroups? My understanding is that the DCA will actually move the related channel faders and the subgroup is the equivalent of a master fader for the related faders. Why not just use DCAs?

[@MightyLighty555]

Just watched your subgroups video. Problem solved!

[@maheshwarramhit9550]

Hey Drew, awesome tutorial. We recently got the X32 console at my church and I am trying to set it up to mirror what you did on this video. I am using stereo bus to group vocals, drums and instruments and I am using Matrix 1 (out15) for MainsL, Matrix 2 (out16) for MainsR and Matrix 3 (out 14) for sub. I am getting sound out of the matrix to my mains and sub but the LR fader is not controlling my overall volume. I think I need to send my busses to the LR fader and then the LR fader goes to the Matrix but I am not sure, any help would be awesome.

[@joetrujillo1028]

Hello, I have a question can I use a Behringer S16 stagebox with a Yamaha TF3 digital mixer thru a Dante NY64-D expansion card output port ? That works. Thank you

[@a1auctionshop]

Love this video! I have been setting up my system the same way for months by using this information that you provided with this case study! I too use the QSC KW153 & KW 181 Speaker system(with the x32). Now I have a small set up problem I hope you can help with. I recently purchased a Dbx DriveRack PA2 Complete Loudspeaker Management System that can be programmed with saved settings with all the different venues I perform at. I just need to know how do I set up my x32 board to accommodate the new system? The Matrix set up now won't work for the subs. Any possible way could you help with this and what would be the best board set up that would work with the DriveRack PA2? Thanks again Drew for the videos!!!

[@DrewBrashler]

Larry Shibler Hey Larry, sorry for the delay in my reply. I would setup your board to do a stereo LR into the PA2 processor and then let the processor do the work of the crossover. With only two inputs to the PA2, you would be limited to only the stereo pair. The other option is to have the KW153's off of the PA2, and then you could do the feeding of the subs via the X32 out's, but that would complicate it a bit more.

[@moinpoin10]

At 17:05 in the video you select bus's 7 & 8 with the mouse pointer. How do you do this if you are working on the counsel rather then Xedit?

[@BigMoneyAl]

Never seen a drum set without the hats

[@Wingover55]

I'm trying to configure the output of our X32 into Adobe Audition in the following array: 1. "Revs" (mono), 2. "Band VOs" (stereo), 3. "Band Inst" (stereo), 4. "Choir" (stereo), and 5. "Ambient" (mono, not through FOH). All of these are currently assigned to their own matrix bus. I do not have the time to post-produce all 32 tracks. Any ideas?

[@Godswordsaves]

Hello, I have a x33 compact mixer. I have to powered speakers for main and 2 passive speakers I will like to use for monitors...I will like to know if I can use the passive speakers without an amp and how do I connect it? thanks

[@garysherry1897]

Hey Drew, im Gary from Gateway Community Church in New Zealand. Firstly thanks so much for your tutorials and training vids. VERY HELPFUL! so I came about a small prob that I am stumped by. We have a Mac that runs our data show, music playback and then records the sermons. So last Sunday we had, as usual, we have background music coming in on the 5/6 RCA AUX ports and going back to the Mac we use the 5/6 RCA AUX out. when we played the music back, the recording levels were perfect, but as soon as I sent a mic through it, we got nothing. I even tried sending it to the Mix Bus and re-routed it to Direct out Aux 5/6. got a little levels, but totally not level to left and right. I know you can record directly to USB, but that only records Mon as far as I can see. Is there any suggestions that you might have that you can Suggest? Blessing Gary

[@anthonysia839]

Hi Drew, thank you for your videos!! They are very helpful. My question is: My school let's me hard wire into their speaker system: I can only come out of my mixer with L & R; even though they have powerful sub woofers... that's the way it is.... So, do I set up matrix, or just go L&R and let their system handle the crossover?

[@thomasdang8903]

Hey drew, I was wondering how you export scenes from your laptop to some one else's board.

[@ThaylorHarmor]

Can you install a little mouse cursor yellow circle indicator or something that shows your mouse and where you click. Good video +1

[@hemantachoudhury7200]

x32 crossover is great. Can i used the passive speaker without crossover circut board..

[@OscarHernandez-ld2zu]

Hello Drew, thank you very much for your videos. I would like to buy this specific scene, but I'm not sure how to find it on your website.

[@imnotded1]

If you line out the back of the tops into the subs you lose the independent control of just the subs for their level. Using output 14 you can control the volumes of the tops and subs separately.

[@joelaustin6894]

This may have to do with adding compression, etc. but why do you run your vocal/instruments, etc., to a group bus and then to a DCA instead of directly to a DCA?

[@DrewBrashler]

Great question Joel, a DCA is not an audio path, it is just a remote control to the level of the channels which are assigned to that DCA. A group bus is an audio path, so it allows summing signals together so I can then add global compression or EQ to a group of instruments like the drums. So I have my drums going to a group bus, but I have my two kick drum mics assigned to a DCA and then the rest of the drums assigned to a different DCA. This allows to easily change the volume of the kick drum.

[@lucwillems1643]

Why do you use the busses for the groups you can do That with the DCA groups write

[@chadt5584]

+Luc Willems He said in the video they wanted groups so they could do global signal processing (compression, EQ, etc.) on certain groups of channels.

[@elizabethgerman921]

Hi Drew, why I don't see those check boxes under my Bus Sends 7-12? Thanks

[@baddawg123451]

why do you run through the matrix with the mains? why not just eq the LR and C 14 - 16 ? We get our board in the next week and this is the only part that does not make sense to me.

[@AaronKelley]

What about sending the full band to mono sub group and an ambient mic to a mono sub group to a LR matrix mix for USB recording? I tried this technique and can't get the ambient mic to send to the sub group, but everything else will send to it. Could it be because it's a mono sub to a LR matrix? I wouldn't think that would make the difference. I tried using a LR sub group and it didn't fix anything.

[@beliftedhigh]

why would the text be backwards/opposite/"mirrored"

[@stevenkontsevenko]

Hey!!! I NEED HELP. So, someone from musicians thought that they know the soundboard better than me. While I was out they messed with the board. Now, if I turn down both the fader and the main L & R to negative infinity the sound still comes from Main L & R. I have been trying to fix this issue but I could not. I found that the bus group 3 & 4 (which are the L & R stage monitors) have an effect/involved in this situation. Could anyone help me out with this issue? Thank you

[@thomasphillips885]

Hang on. Why are you having to use the matrix section when you can apply crossovers and use the built-in 31-band EQs on the LR and M/C faders?

[@chadt5584]

+Thomas Phillips The LR and M/C faders don't have true crossovers available. Only the matrix sections have options for Butterworth, Linkwitz-Riley, etc. crossovers.

[@jeffnelson5987]

@@chadt5584 they do now

[@chadt5584]

Jeff Nelson yep!

[@jeffnelson5987]

@@chadt5584 It was confusing the heck out of me when I watched this, but was seeing the functionality available in the main L/R Mono EQ.

[@chadt5584]

Jeff Nelson Yeah, they did that in a firmware update awhile back. But it was after Drew’s video and my post. Anyway, cool functionality to have.

[@michael.losangeles]

Hi Drew, How will the Matrix setup in this demonstration be different from the "setup tab, Config, Link preferences, m/c depends on main L/R function" ? Will this setup effect the one in this demonstration? Any warnings? THANKS!

[@aaronking770]

very useful tutorial. With the crossover / matrix setup on your vieo. Do I connect the main speakers and the subs on the main and moro channel or do I connect to output 14 to 16?

[@proggydan8257]

So - here is what I don't understand. Why must we use outputs 15 & 16 for main outs [not inc 14 for the sub]. Why can't we use the main L/R Monitor outputs? That would free up 15 & 16 for something else?

[@FJ_0412]

He uses 15&16 so that he can use 1, 2, 3, etc. for monitor outs so they correspond with the monitor numbers instead of being offset by 2. So they go "Out 1 -> Monitor 1" instead of "Out 3 -> Monitor 1"."

[@johnhoganson7287]

I'm curious as to why you chose the LR 24 and not the Butterworth (BU) 24 function on the Matrix Crossover?Just preference or...

[@johnhoganson7287]

Okay you explained it! Thanks!

[@davidshamoon5501]

Why do u have both Groups and DCA when both can do the same job?

[@flashykajo]

Thanks for the excellent video. I followed the video for x32 setup up to the assignment of the lines to the subgroups, but clicking on the subgroup buttons did not turn yellow as shown in the video. Is there anything i need to do for the subgroup buttons to turn yellow when i click on them? Thanks.

[@thomasphillips885]

You may need to press "Sends on fader" and unmute the inputs into that subgroup.

[@JohnPaul-be8yo]

hi,hope u good,this is urgent for me.pls i had this setup,it worked,but u had few issues with it.my individual mic input channels don't respond,but i think,its a pre or post fader issue which i can't figure out.i want the monitor faders and d front of house faders to work independent of each other.thank you very much.

[@KAIVILI-FIJI]

Awesome ..thanks. Can anyone help me please .. Ive got an x32 compact mixer . Im using it with Abelton Live . Can i use the outputs channel 17-32 on my x32 ?. When i select channel output 32 in abelton ie i get no signal on the x32 mixer . im doing something wrong..

[@mikeringley5243]

Awesome thanks bro!

[@sametatom]

You didnt do any routing for bus 7-12. Why ?

[@rex1030]

Can you post a video where you aux send the subs like most people do?

[@bensonhon]

What is main reason of having 1 bass in it's own DCA? Thx

[@DrewBrashler]

+Benson Hon Haha great question. I like to have the main sets of instruments on the DCA's for adjustment as most of the global song level mixing happens for me on the DCA's but then individual adjustment inside of the music groups will happen on the channel side. I guess it is just me being consistent with mixing over the years!

[@andersfryk5288]

Hi! Love your videos.Do you know how or if i can rout my aux outports to a fader? I have a camera that i want to send main mix to. I use all my xlr outs so the only option is to use the AUX outs. But i can´t find a way to adjust the level of that signal (other than post fader Main ) on a fader... Any suggestions?

[@DrewBrashler]

Hey Anders Fryk you can route signals to the Aux Outputs by going to the Routing button, then tab over to Aux Out. You will still need to use a Bus or a Matrix to feed the Aux Output, but you will then be able to control any volume fading for that specific output with the Bus master fader or a Matrix master fader.

[@andersfryk5288]

Thanks for the respond. The only thing is that after this routing i still can´t control the output volume. I get some but it is very low? What i did was routed aux1-2 to matrix 1-2. Is the aux out getting its signal from mains? Or what comes out from these ports in original routing?

[@andersfryk5288]

Have another question if that is ok...? My desk is the producer edition. Just bought it and think it´s great. But i can´t seem to get the x-usb driver to find the desk. On the screen it says C:USB but it should read C:X-USB if things worked ok. When i try to install the driver it says that no desk was found...

[@Hayabusa25th_Belgium]

Hello can you help me please on the x32 ???

[@grantbutters448]

Why did you run your mains out of matrix 1 and 2? What is the downfall off running it out of the regular l and r?

[@DrewBrashler]

Hey Grant Butters , great question! I run the mains out of the Matrix to allow for much more processing and control over the signal. By sending the LR to the Matrix I can then assign different matrices for different sources. Like the main output, a live feed for video, a CD recorder. Some of these need different levels and a bit of a tailored EQ, so the Matrix section is what allows for these adjustments.

[@albertcalor]

Why is the hihat not miced up?

[@DrewBrashler]

Great question! Careful placement of the overhead mic will get a lot of the hi hat. Also a good amount of bleed from the hats always goes into the snare mic. Lastly, because we are not a stereo PA system at the church, I have never worried about setting up a stereo micing setup for the drums. If you were on a stereo PA, correctly positioning the overheads will get sufficient hat, but if you need a bit more sizzle, adding the hat mic is always nice.

[@albertcalor]

Its better to mic it because in that way you can control it much better in the FOH mix especially if the band is playing loud

[@johnpauljonesgroup]

Drew I have another case study for you. 16 input channels via ADAT Card from two ADA8000 5 In Ear Monitor Mixes 16 track recording out ADAT XCard to Fostex D2424LV LR Main Outs Record Bus Stereo to USB that's the setup I am using but having some trouble can I send you my file.

[@ThePedrojmorales]

I like your mix, can I have it? please

[@DrewBrashler]

Aaron, looks like KZbin isn't letting me send you a message because I am not one of your contacts. Send me a message with your email and I will email you. Thanks!

[@RobArndt]

please please pleaseee in your next video use a DESer