Being a Deadbeat Dad

The plaintiff brings her ex-husband to court. She says the defendant refuses to pay for their daughters’ medical bills who need therapy, so she’s suing. The defendant says he doesn’t think their daughters need therapy. He also says the medical bills have the plaintiff’s names on them and he doesn’t want to pay any of her bills, but he would for their daughters.
Case: 32-003
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[@graduatge105]

They are both so busy hating each other while the daughter is suffering. This is a very sad case.

[@payableondeath9091]

The Dad has check out

[@peterlee584]

​@@payableondeath9091 I don't think he was ever really there.

[@prairierider7569]

Btw, before you read my comment, this goes to both parents, either sex can end up being an abusive parent and most times in these cases it’s BOTH the parents responsible for this I had an abuse ex husband (just emotional and mental, which I would prefer a beating, it doesn’t affect me as much), anyways, he dragged me through 13 years of court when I finally left, he kept playing mind games with the kids. I wanted the kids to have a relationship with him and I kept my mouth shut with anything to do with him around the kids (as I survived that nasty schitt with my own mother and father and I didn’t have a relationship with him). Now the kids are grown, they’ve had a relationship with him and all 3 see how he truly is and they now chose (as adults) to have a relationship but keep it at arms length. It is always the best policy for kids that you take the high road. I am truly sad for these kids

[@prairierider7569]

@@payableondeath9091 see my comment, I’ve dealt with a father like this, but I took the high road and never discussed a bad thing about him in front of the kids. I let them have their own relationship with him and now all three grown adults have decided to keep a relationship with him but at arms length

[@screwthisin]

I can guess that this divorce was so messy that the daughter was probably scarred for life!

[@AC081361]

These parents are on a different level 😳 he’s intentionally uninformed and she’s intentionally disconnected OMG Parents need to love their children more then they hate their ex

[@David-cc8xe]

People need to stop having children like it's buying a new car. THINK BEFORE you have kids.

[@gloriastrehlau4445]

I find he’s very spiteful three pictures of the new bride and him purposely place to irritate the ex-wife he needs to pay for his children’s therapy and stop worrying about where the ew wife wants to place Pictures to be spiteful and hateful toward the wife it’s part of the problem that the girls are having I’m sure hopefully the communication Will start improving after talking with the judge

[@alij6940]

He isn't 50/50 custody the father has to find out himself. The custodial parent does not need to tell the other parents anything. Because that's how 50/50 works.

[@SlimBitchBam]

Sounds a bit like Judge Judy 😏

[@Mocharocks9966]

My heart goes out to the kids. These parents can’t speak to each other with respect . The kids suffer when these situations exist

[@wallacesteelersws]

Everyone doesn’t deserve respect.

[@LawsonPatterson]

It’s pretty obvious that both of these parents hate each other far more than they love their daughters. Very, very, sad 😞

[@sunnyscott4876]

Well said.

[@debshaw680]

No they don’t. Mom is doing everything and dad does nothing. Mom isn’t the problem when it comes to the child at this point.

[@socketyellow3]

@@debshaw680 sounds like the daughter was molested by her boyfriend and she swept it under the rug so the daughter got pissed at her. Eventually the mom got a therapy appointment but didn’t continue as she didn’t seem to think abandoning your child physically wouldn’t be the same as when she abandoned her emotionally

[@Shellygrrl2573]

@@socketyellow3 I agree. Everyone wants to keep talking about HIM when HE didn't let some jerk harm his child. That's why he said he has a good relationship with his kids while the daughter doesn't like her mom

[@prettyblkgyrl74]

These parents are TOXIC AF. I can’t even begin to imagine what these children are forced to endure. 🙁😩🥺

[@arianefr78]

You have to love your children more than you hate your Ex. And you must NEVER put your children in harms way. It sounds like the mother put her daughter in harms way (probably sexual abuse from a boyfriend) and then goes away on holiday just when her daughter dares open up and is willing to talk about it and the mother claiming she was under a lot of stress and needed to get away is insulting to what the daughter went through. I think I would be as angry as the father too...

[@RayneZaleska]

as angry as the father is but he didn't care enough to make sure his daughter was safe either. Didn't care enough to ask the doctors how she was doing. Only poked his head out of his new marriage when CPS called him "so he didn't look like a bad parent." They both are worthless and have failed their children.

[@Anglynn74]

she's driving him batshit nuts

[@debshaw680]

Wow… way to make an assumption. It might have been a sitter, women also assault children. It might have been a neighbor, teacher, coach, pastor, friend. You have zero knowledge other than that something had happened. And that dad is a nasty deadbeat who can’t stop smack talking the mother.

[@girlperson1]

If the father is so concerned over what is happening in the mother/daughters relationship, he should go back to court for full custody.

[@michelleviscana3113]

He did and he won full custody

[@girlperson1]

@@michelleviscana3113 Excellent !

[@SuperIndy08]

Quoting Judge Judy, “Love your kids more than you hate each other.”

[@mlmichael2791]

Although mom is no prize, I really have problem with Dad not speaking to the doctors himself, instead of complaining that Mom doesn't tell him stuff.

[@briasworld8]

I will NEVER understand how People who were once Married or have Children together, hate each other so much.

[@mymobilebuddy4392]

It's easy this way instead of working threw there own problems with each other.

[@Valentina_2006]

Happens all the time for a variety of reasons.

[@christinerivera8142]

My ex and I hate each other. Absolutely hate each other. But we both love our son. We just avoid any interactions unless it's unavoidable.

[@SacredGaea]

This is such a sad case. I hope they all find peace.

[@PattyPaints]

“I have her all year” but in the same breath says the daughter was with the au pair, then the grandmother, and the father has joint custody. Then she goes to Greece because of HER stress immediately after the daughter is released from the hospital after attempting suicide from something traumatic that happened on the mom's watch -- which obviously the mom WASN'T watching since it was allowed to happen... So when exactly are the kids actually in the mom's care? No wonder the dad is furious. Sounds like his daughter was abused by mom's boyfriend and now he's paying the price.

[@kiahhh444]

Both parents are going to damage their kids even more smh. And dad probably gets along “great” with his daughter because they bash the mother. He’s miserable and the ex wife is pitiful. I feel sorry for the kids

[@nicoleh.6352]

He doesn't seem like the type that's easy to talk to anyway...meanwhile she look so broken... they definitely need a mediator

[@MoistNasa]

Two parents that hate eachother more than they love their children. I feel so bad for the kids, they’re the only victims in this.

[@Marisol9111-w3p]

A quote from judge Judy .

[@blynn2505]

So someone the mom knew, and probably was dating, abused her daughter and she didn’t believe her. I’d be livid too. But he got some nerve like he’s father of the year.

[@JamieM470]

She not only didn't believe her. She refused to even discuss it with her until "tomorrow morning"...Then when her daughter was discharged from the hospital after trying to suicide, mom left for a vacation in Greece, because SHE was stressed. Yeah, he's no Super Dad but Mommy Dearest is horrible. Those poor kids.

[@tajavillasenor5923]

How did u conclude that the daughter was abused? It didn't state any of that. I didn't make that conclusion and didn't see any hints of that being the case.

[@blynn2505]

@@tajavillasenor5923 it was stated something terrible and traumatic happened to her daughter which caused not only a suicide attempt but CPS to get involved and the mom didn’t want to discuss it in front of the other kid and caused the daughter who had something happen to her not to trust the mom anymore because the person was connected to the daughter through the mom…what do you think? Read between the lines. ALL of the above was stated.

[@tajavillasenor5923]

@@blynn2505 yes, I heard all of those details as well in the case but that could mean all sorts of scenarios. I didn't specifically gather it was what u assumed but am not ruling out that is a possibility. Was just wondering how u could conclude with certainty that it was what u thought it was.

[@blynn2505]

@@tajavillasenor5923 got it. They were trying to be discreet to protect her privacy. Unfortunately I’m familiar with these kind of situations.

[@slickpatt7870]

The fact that he keeps saying what she doesn't do.... sir what do you do? If you're soo close to your daughter wouldn't she have told you hey dad I'm seeing a new therapist, it's great something

[@tmurielmoufa6534]

I don’t care how much money I would lose or how close I was to a break down (yes, I’ve been there) if my child disclosed their trauma, I wouldn’t be anywhere else but with them. They are both horrible people!!

[@MrThenonchosenone]

she is a million times worse tho

[@kylahaynes4099]

I think this Dad has every right to be pissed and hate this woman. She's extremely selfish and the father has every right to be made aware of in network or out of network

[@dbabies82]

Sounds like the daughter was molested by her mother's bf. She told her mother, and her mother didn't do a thing about it (didn't call the cops or anything. Just tried to ignore the issue). Probably didn't even leave the bf and kept the bf around her daughter. This ensured the daughter wouldn't feel safe around her mother. The mother has a few screws loose. No wonder the father hates her guts. I would, too. She has a very flawed way of thinking.

[@debshaw680]

You have zero idea. My eldest blames me for something I had nothing to do with. She asked to stay at a friends house. Something happened there she didn’t tell me about for YEARS. Now she says she was signaling she didn’t want to go when she was doing no such thing. Why not just pull me aside? I can’t read her mind. I was fiercely protective of my kids. The person who assaulted her wasn’t a member of the girl’s family. Nobody said he’d be there.

[@relliej386]

@@debshaw680 its not easy to pull your parent or guardian aside to say something of that magnitude. That takes a huge amount of courage. I didn’t tell my aunt about her husband for 7 years. I signaled. I was depressed. I stayed locked up in my room. I binge ate. Hid food. I was 160 as a 14 year old. I told my aunt at 11 and she told me not to tell anyone, which was so painful because i waited so long to tell and when i finally did. She did nothing. Huge smack in the face. He stayed around. Scowled at me. Made comments when nobody was around. “You know you liked it” “you can’t get rid of me. This is my family” i finally told someone else at 14 and was removed from the house. . Started 8th grade at 125 lbs. all of my weight from stress eating fell off. The summer before 8th grade

[@arrowpb9878]

@@relliej386 I am so sorry u went threw this. My daughters half sister did this to them and as soon as I found out she was gone and NEVER allowed back. There father didn’t believe it until recently ( he was gone not even 2 years later) we found out when our younger daughter was 3 the older one was 4.5 they are now 23 and 24. He put that daughter in front of them for years. Our younger daughter was actually his favorite of 5 children when we found out. He barely spoke to her at all afterwards. He barely saw the kids after we split he just started paying his child support of $118. A week for 3 kids. His other 2 kids had the same mother. His son with that mother still have a relationship with my kids and myself. My oldest and him are actually very very close. I do almost as much for his kids as I do for my biological grandsons. Those 2 are the only 2 that have children as of now. Our oldest does have a relationship with there father our youngest ( our only son) goes back and forth he try’s to give him another chance n my x likes to mess it up by saying stupid lil things like it’s my son doesn’t call him to check on him when he should and more. Our son says he never even called me on my birthday but he wants me chasing him ( actually this comment is coming from our son’s account bc he loves using my iPad lol). Our middle daughter gave him a chance for a few months and then gave up. He started paying his child support like 6 months ago he was over 54 grand behind when it was only $118 a week for the 3 kids. I worked 2 full time jobs most of my kids lives too support them until I was diagnosed the first time with cancer on 7/4/17 yea happy Independence Day too me. I’m fighting it now a 3rd time. Chemo caused side effects made me unable too work the first time I got rid of the cancer our son was 17 when I was diagnosed with it still no help from dad n he knew. I fought for disability for over 2.5 years I was approved right before I was diagnosed with it a second time. He tells me I’m too spend the money on the 2 that speak too him n the grandsons n not the middle child bc his money shouldn’t go to a child who doesn’t speak to him. He also says I’m to spend that on them b4 my own needs even though it’s money I already spent on raising my kids. All 3 of my kids n my grandsons get b4 I do for myself n I did tell him that as well. I said I am also spending it on the 1 who doesn’t speak too him it is my money now n I’ll spend it where I see fit. He also thinks $118 a week is too much since they r grown but I still don’t get that bc he doesn’t make enough so I get 60% of his check

[@maureensmith-pinkard460]

@@arrowpb9878 May you find some grace. Keep loving those children. I was in tears reading this

[@VladmirPoopN]

@Public Square troll fail

[@sophiapettit5251]

"BUT HE HAS THE MONEY TO BUY HIS NEW WIFE A RANGE ROVER" - 🤣🤣🤣 I died. This is gonna be a train wreck for sure.

[@ahelms1990]

The judge was way harder on the dad that knows his ex wife has super money issues. The mother sickens me on how she left her daughter in her time of mental health. Sad as all hell.

[@Channel-JJ]

Yes, the judge started out rough on the dad right away. She also didn't need to bring up the daughter's self harm episode, it's bad enough they chose to bring their child's mental issues to a tv audience.

[@sixxygrrl]

This upset me too. I could tell that he was trying to be in solved but she was legitimately making it impossible. She wants control. That's it. She doesn't want him to have ANY say in anything, so she does all this on her own, behind his back and makes him out to be a dead beat while refusing to give him the bills when they come in, refusing to tell him who the Doctors are, or what is happening. I fully believe him that she makes it so the Doctors can only talk to him about the billing and NOT the actual treatment of his daughter. I have seen this happen with someone I know. The mother set it up exactly like that so the father looked like a liar who wasn't trying, but she made it so he wasn't allowed to have any information about treatment whatsoever and since they would talk to him about the billing, it made him look like a liar when he said they wouldn't talk to him about his child's care. Just like Judge did here to this father. " They talked to you about billing, so you must not be trying".... and then her only dumping the bills on him once a year instead of when they come in, is a clear and definite intention to make him look like a deadbeat father. "See? He hasn't paid ANYTHING for the bills... I have to do it all myself....". PUHLEEEZ. 🙄😬🤮 He isn't a saint, but I do believe that she refuses to communicate and that she intentionally makes him look like a deadbeat.

[@pizzelle2]

@@sixxygrrl The dad has the personal phone number of the therapist treating his daughter and they were texting, it’s pretty stupid to imply he had “no knowledge” of anything when he literally could’ve asked for himself if he’d actually given a shit. And who cares when the bills come in? You know your daughter goes to therapy regularly, expect that bills are coming and actually PAY THEM when asked. It really isn’t that hard.

[@Childfree334]

@@pizzelle2 STOP it. You are making too much sense.

[@dbabies82]

@@pizzelle2 It wasn't really about the bills or putting out money. It was about his anger towards her and her lack of sense. That her man raped his daughter, and she just didn't care about it enough to do anything. She just ignored the issue and went on vacations bc of her own stress, leaving her daughter to suffer. He was angry at her, so he decided to be difficult to punish her. She can't receive punishment any other way, so this is his way at being in control and sticking it to her. He's petty and being childish, but the mother is a sick and neglectful pos to her daughter. Everything she did helped created the mental issues her daughter has, and it's been burning up on the father's mind... hence the pure hate and anger he has. You all act like you don't get this. Y'all are focusing on the wrong thing. It's obvious he owes the money.

[@deelo111]

Why is it so easy for him to the blame the mom for everything. He needs to take the effort and be active in his daughter’s medical appointments.

[@yugottabekiddingme]

Soon as it started and her opening statement was about how he bought his new wife a new car i knew this was about to be a problem and she was more upset about more than a therapy bill

[@awesomehigames]

Reading between the lines. The mom put the daughter in a situation where she got gRaped, didn't believe her until it came up in therapy and the daughter attempted suicide. Then the mom took a vacation right after the daughter was released from the mental hospital.

[@Mel-jo6bg]

Exactly what I deciphered! Imagine the father having to pay for the therapy when his ex wife's actions contributed to the need for therapy! Judge was so biased in this case it was disgusting

[@kac4klhc977]

Wow, we didn’t need to Watch this show at all. You’ve got it all figured out that a child was “raped”. Great, buts it actually kind of Sickning

[@lulu-iz7bv]

And now, she is dragging this out on national TV. If youtube people can figure out what happened by watching the episode, just image the daughter seeing it--and her friends and non-friends seeing it. Horrible mother, no matter what. I imagine the father is upset at the mother, because she is not following the orders. She should be careful enough to follow every scintilla of what she is supposed to do. You know she deliberately slipped her own bill in there, which (she clearly knew) would make him flip out and question everything.

[@barbarajones9385]

@@lulu-iz7bv Commenters are creating a scenario from their own imagination. It was skirted around during the court case for a reason: discretion. (It could have been even more discreet.) Yet commenters are spelling out what they guess happened and using this as excuse to attack the mother. The father needs to pay his share of the bills for his daughter, that's all. He is making a lot of invalid excuses for why he shouldn't. If he'd paid, there would be no need for any of this exposure.

[@citytrees1752]

If that's the case, the dad doesn't seem particularly concerned about it. He only cares about 'communication' about bills and appointments.

[@coolcatzclub]

This is why it's important to realize what it actually means to have children. Some people think they're sooo important that they have to reproduce 😒 the dad is hateful. He should have pulled out instead of having multiple children with a woman he hates.

[@thatwench]

she could have SWALLOWED, too. it is a two way street, and swallowing produces no child support.

[@growinghigher420]

But the "mom" literally left for vacay after the child told her she had something traumatic happen to her. So I'm confused why just the dad is bad but not the shitty mom?

[@pazuzuxx]

I agree but people have sex because it feels very good not for the intention of reproducing. Most births are not planned they just happen as a result of sex

[@tmurielmoufa6534]

I don’t care how much money I would lose or how close I was to a break down (yes, I’ve been there) if my child disclosed her trauma, I wouldn’t be anywhere else but with them. They are both horrible people!!

[@barbarajones9385]

@@growinghigher420 The daughter was staying with her dad; they are apparently very close so why is it an issue? The mother has the children most of the year; the dad has shared custody so he surely can support his daughter.

[@kaykepop4084]

This guy shows just who unstable he is. He can't even keep himself together during court. He keeps pointing fingers at the mom but thinks he's flawless. But watching this guy you can tell he flies off the handle extremely easy. Can't imagine how he is with their children if they do something he doesn't like.

[@spacepanda9037]

Girl I thought I was the only one so many people defending him lol

[@themrs.1200]

I can’t see that at all. I don’t know what happened to the child, but it likely plays into their current feelings toward another.

[@alyssahamlett]

I have no defense for his hatred but I 100% see why he's mad coming to me at the end of the year with thousands in bills vs when it comes in and there's the resentment of something happening on the moms watch. BUT this negatively will effect the children n they need to get over it for the kids sake

[@raycurry4168]

Yeah, the dad = a TOTAL NUT CASE !!

[@delishme2]

My God he was insufferable. Stewing on his own bile. I hope he heals, finds how to forgive and moves on with his life.

[@goblueinga]

I feel so sorry for those kids.

[@denisheunjackson]

Poor kid. I also believe the defendant, he’s so angry at his ex because of what happened to his daughter that he’s literally shaking. I hope all of them goes to therapy

[@kac4klhc977]

He’s not angry about what happened to his daughter, he’s angry bc he doesn’t control his ex wife anymore. Love how the new wife set up the hutch area behind the husband with wedding and couples pic’s, it looks like she may like to rub it in too. The ex wife could care less that she finally got rid of her controlling asshole husband.

[@Childfree334]

Cases like this are all too common and exactly why I decided to be childfree. Just not worth the drama of fighting over visitation, custody, and money. It is a shame that so many people (men & women) have to be FORCED to financially provide for the children they bring into the world. However, being a veteran pediatric nurse for the past 27 years I have witnessed WAY MORE men than women refuse to do their fair share of child rearing.

[@leogoddess3863]

People can definitely raise children on their own... just a little encouragement to people that think they need a partner to have children.

[@Childfree334]

@@leogoddess3863I am a Leo as well. My birthday is the end of July. Pregnancy, childbirth and being a mother never appealed to me at all, so I didn't have any. But I would never advocate for any woman to deliberately be a single parent. Men can get away with it because they have a plethora of women willing to step in and take on the mother/childcare roll. That is not so for women. It is a rare man that will step into the father roll and treat kids he didn't make like his own.

[@jordanwilliams7127]

it may not mean the same coming from a male, but being child free is a liberating and perfectly fine life. we don't need to procreate to create and foster a happy life.

[@de4700]

@@Childfree334 yeah you aren't biased against fathers at all. You are the type to say a father has no rights. I can tell that from your comments.

[@Childfree334]

@@de4700 I didn't say fathers have no rights. Of course they have rights and should fight harder to enforce them, but they don't. Do you know how many abused children I have taken care of over the years? THOUSANDS. The fathers of these children could very easily have made cases to get custody of their children, but they don't. You know why? Because they are too busy chasing after other women and making other families. Many fathers even let their kids be taken into foster care rather than get custody. I have seen some shi* I'm my career dude. It is NOT bias, it is truth.

[@NoName-mr8tr]

As the mother of an 18 yr old daughter who has struggled with mental health, has been IP, and been thru therapy/ counseling etc... let me say this: it is NOT easy co-parenting in this situation. Both parents do their best (usually), but agreeing for the betterment of your child in common must be the priority!! Kids 1st guise, these people did not ask to be born we must do better in assisting in any & everyway possible to ensure healthy, happy, strong minds ready to take on this cruel cold world 💜

[@lislortega2610]

I’m so sorry to hear this.

[@NoName-mr8tr]

@@lislortega2610 don't be sorry, millions of people struggle with mental health in silence. This world is only now accepting of opening up to the conversation. We see a Dr for our teeth, if we are diabetic, if a bone is broken that bone gets re-set in a cast & eventually heals right? Same thing with our brain. Mental health is real and needs to be addressed with the same seriousness as if you have high BP. Sadly, too many young people don't get taken seriously or are overlooked which can lead to severe tragedy. Educate yourself and those around you on the very real struggles of mental health & the people it affects. Wealthy/poor, young/old, religous/non believers-- it's a subject that requires understanding, compassion & resources. 3 major things a lot of human beings lack. I'm fortunate & thankful for my daughter every single day- I get to wake up to her & celebrate her achievements, she has overcome so much. Not all parents are so lucky.

[@vidamccurdy9764]

My daughters ex was a jerk to her but by golly him and his fiance co parent so good with my daughter and her husband and he is a great dad.don't like him personally but admire him for putting his issues aside when it comes to co parenting

[@mrsa2you365]

I would've loved to watch Judge Judy on this case. I love the way she rips into parents on both sides

[@porkchopjp]

father should sue for full custody, since mother put her in harms way

[@TammieR-B]

This one is going to be sad 😭

[@SString215]

This is disgusting how little they care about how their dysfunctional relationship with one another is hurting their daughter. You never know what’s going to happen or how time changes their lives. Yes I do speak from experience. My son is 10. His dad cheated on me and was verbally and emotionally abusive to the max and for several years. I finally left him but I never spoke badly about him to my son or in front of him. He was a deadbeat dad but I never kept him from his dad. I had him over for dinner and breakfast and I regularly paid for them to go do things because he was always broke from doing drugs. I kept him informed on school things and we did “family” things to keep things as normal as we could. We never got divorced though. He died a month and a half ago in a motorcycle accident. I am so very glad I didn’t make that last 9 months horrible on my end for my son because I was hurt and I was wronged. I am so glad I did what I could to give my son the last few months of good memories with his dad in SPITE of the terrible choices his dad was making. I will never regret the choices I made or how I handled things. It was the best choice because I put my son first and his dad spent the last few months with his son without me in the way. If anyone was in the way of him spending time with his son, it was his decisions and his choices. Things I couldn’t control.

[@teriwilliams4255]

I support the mother in this case.

[@ndavis3967]

These parents are doing their children a huge disservice.. You should love your children more than you hate each other, you chose each other your children didn’t get to chose them.

[@Ahhmisohornie]

So some pretty severe stuff happened to this child, on the mother’s watch, and when she tried to talk to her mom she was blown off and the child felt harming herself was her only option. Then mom skips her a$$ off to Greece when her own flesh and blood needed her most??? Yeah, I’d hate her if I was the dad and those bills should be 100% her responsibility.

[@katrinkasanfranciscobayare7364]

People just need to learn how to become better parents than they were partners. Think about the kids!

[@yung1717]

They’re both insufferable. He’s blaming her for everything and she seems disconnected from the child.

[@C3yl0]

He is only concerned with the amount he will have to pay, and that it will be "in a network". Do your research! The process of finding and obtaining mental health services is incredibly difficult nowadays, and not all doctors participate in all insurance plans. Therefore, you should be ashamed of yourself for being a deadbeat “dad”.

[@marys6800]

If the traumatic event happened while she was in the care of her mother, shouldn't she be responsible for the cost of her treatment? If that's the case and I was the father I'd be taking action against the mother for neglect.

[@barbarajones9385]

No. Things can occur at any time and since the mother has the children most of the time it's almost inevitable that events will occur on her watch. If the daughter had fallen off her bike and injured her knee, would that also be the mother's fault and therefore she had to pay for all the associated medical bills?

[@stephaniehowe0973]

This guy cant behave in a court room. Zoom or not he is constantly shouting out

[@c.c.2508]

It's funny how he calls her a lazy parent. But, he won't even contact the doctor to see what's going on with his own child. He just keeps saying "she won't tell me anything ". Why is he depending on her to tell him everything, when he can call the doctor himself and find out. Sounds like he is the lazy parent. He's too bitter to get out of his own way.

[@reptilemetaljen]

Is he sitting in front of new wedding pics and memorabilia? lol petty af

[@lakeofalltrades]

Poor children 😞…….. The dad is bitter and lazy though, the judge was spot on presenting the fact he could’ve ask, talk to and be involved instead of letting the whole year go by and then ask one question of the doctor, are you in network🤨

[@Stahpbeingaidiot101]

Did anyone else catch where she said, My daughters mad that I let this happen to her.... 🧐 I'm thinking the hated from dad might actually be justified.

[@kerrywhite5253]

Ooooooo he really hates her.!! And he cannot even control himself in the court.

[@hardtfelt]

It's true they're both causing the problem, but I think Judge MM should've been way harder on the shady mom.

[@deannapalmatier]

THE MOM ISN'T SHADY THAT SO CALLED "FATHER" is a deadbeat POS and should have his parental rights taken away

[@cbro2807]

They love hating each other more than they love their daughter. 💯

[@ElsaFriost]

The ex is so bitter!

[@mrshappilymarried1]

5 minutes in and I already see the Dad is disconnected and uninterested in his daughter's therapy at all

[@renn-taylor]

I can see how it might look that way, but I think it was actually anger and frustration that he was trying to keep in check. Think about it, this is likely a situation where the mom's boyfriend/partner abused at least one of the daughters. The situation is probably much worse than we were even led to believe here and the dad is probably livid that his ex-wife brought a predator into the home. For all we know, the dad probably regularly told the ex-wife to be careful about letting her man be alone with the kids or something like that, told her that the girls felt uncomfortable around him, etc and the mom probably didn't listen. And the dad can't go into detail about that without commenting about a current legal situation in the courts.

[@mrshappilymarried1]

@@renn-taylor I hear ya however if he was really concerned he should be able to give details about her therapy schedule and he had zero information outside of knowing if it's in network or not. He wouldn't even talk to the therapist outside of asking about insurance crap. I'd be at every appointment I could.

[@renn-taylor]

@@mrshappilymarried1 That's a good point. I think he cares but a lot of times dads are not the most knowledgable about the therapy stuff. He probably doesn't want to screw anything up. I do agree, though, he could definitely be more involved in the therapeutic process. Sad situation all the way around.

[@barbarajones9385]

@@renn-taylor Speculation.

[@raquelh8791]

All that man cares about his money and power. The mother is a tad bit toxic too but being with someone like that man can lead to that. He's a piece of work and feel sorry for those girls being raised by both of this unwell adults

[@citygirlingraham]

The mother obviously suffers from her own mental health struggles.

[@premesu4090]

That's not true at all. Maybe you have to re watch what happened

[@jaclynisveracious]

Of course the mom did do things wrong, but I feel the father is very hateful and bad at communicating.

[@Channel-JJ]

this mom is an issue

[@TopherGrant]

"Did do things wrong" like also being hateful and miscommunicating?

[@jaclynisveracious]

The father was proven to be hateful by taking out his anger on the judge. I was saying they both did things wrong because only saying the man is right or the woman is right is not accurate. They’re both in the wrong. I didn’t like the fathers attitude and if the mother SHOWED that attitude I would have said the same thing about her.

[@anjuelle3997]

He hates her. Wow!

[@MrFunkadeIic]

He was shaking. From the very beginning, Judge Millian was against him. He was frustrated that he couldn't speak.

[@fractode]

"I let something bad happen to her." AND SHE STILL HAS CUSTODY???

[@Childfree334]

Because dad didn't go for custody even after the bad thing happened.

[@TopherGrant]

Women aren't ready for that convo

[@Childfree334]

@@TopherGrant Dude, there are a hell of a lot of conversations that men ain't ready for either.

[@TopherGrant]

@@Childfree334 well no shit. Haha this was just an example

[@MrThenonchosenone]

​@@Childfree334 Nope, it's because the legal system strongly favors moms, because they still have the sexist belief that women are good nurturers while men are good providers.

[@chrstphrmtthw16]

The Mom " she was mad at me anyway for allowing something bad to happen to her" The Dad " My daughter came to me that weekend and said her Mom put her in harms way" With those 2 statements It might be that the mom brought home a random boyfriend/ guy and he did something to the daughter. With that said I see why the daughter was upset the Mom brushed it off for a day.. ( That's like a week in a teens head ) Then the Mom goes on vacation when her daughter has a mental health crisis over what happened to her.... smh !!

[@MelancholicAwesomnes]

I also think that the reason the Mother brushed it off and went to Greece was because she probably felt some sort of resentment because in her mind whatever happened to the daughter gave validation to the narrative that she was in fact a bad mom and it probably upset the mother that her ex-husband was right about who she was as a person/mother.

[@chrstphrmtthw16]

@@MelancholicAwesomnes agree

[@Blue_Collar_Colonizer_1776]

If my daughter's mother had something bad happen on her watch, neglected to immediately address it when my daughter brought it up then immediately left upon her getting released from the hospital I would have a hatred for her too. I understand it's a difficult situation but the mother is constantly turning the other cheek instead of facing it head on. It's good they're in therapy now trying to work through it but she showed her character in the most difficult of times. That's fact. Admittedly I would be a terrible example of an adult through that situation because I probably would have shown my entire ass. If someone that happened to be connected to the mother was responsible for my daughter's anguish it would end very badly for that person, most likely myself and possibly the mom. Thank God my kids have awesome grandparents in my parents because visitation once a week definitely would not be enough. I hope they all work through it safely. The child more then anyone. Also the other daughter on the back burner most likely getting no attention through any of this. Poor kids.

[@dbabies82]

Exactly! I'm so confused how everyone is not getting what was explained. They all are just commenting about how the parents dont get along and it's affecting the child... NO.... She was molested or rape! That is what screwed up her mind! That is why the father went off! The mother doesn't think right, and her lack of common sense is why the father is angry.

[@25stallions15]

Agree!!

[@pjp8648]

These parents should be using TalkingParents or Our Family Wizard. Everything is preserved in the program…notes, messages, schedule appointments. Nothing can be deleted and this is admissible in court!

[@leir2005]

Out of network expenses are real and are not covered by insurance. A few years ago I was gravely ill, doing my macho man thing, working by day, taking cold and flu meds at night. One day my wife says enough is enough you are going to the nearest hospital. Turns out I was diabetic and had been for months without treatment. I spent 3 days in the hospital and when we submitted the paperwork to our insurance we were told the hospital that we’d used was out of network and that they wouldn’t be covering any of the $40k I’d been billed

[@DaniWoodson1]

OMG, I'm so sorry. The amount of people who go into medical debt in this country is criminal! The problem with this guy is that he wasn't involved with the process from the beginning. If he was he would've had a say in where therapy was taking place. Now it's too late.

[@MrThenonchosenone]

Exactly, it was completely elitist for the judge to say asking if the therapist is in network was unreasonable, because the price of therapy is irrelevant.

[@JordynMcCray]

@@MrThenonchosenone it’s irrelevant because if the therapist is out of network, the parents can contact the insurance company to cover the therapist. That’s exactly what my parents had to do when I was in a similar situation. We paid out of pocket for 6 months until it was covered because the alternative was me no longer being here. It’s not worth pulling the daughter out of a stable therapeutic relationship because the father isn’t involved in her care. Also this family has an au pair, so I doubt they’re hurting for money to the point where the child’s well-being comes after the cash.

[@Kimi1968ful]

Mom shouldn’t wait until a thousand dollars is due and then ask for payment. She comes across as the stereotypical bitter ex wife.

[@Channel-JJ]

UNSTABLE bitter ex wife

[@Childfree334]

That makes absolutely no sense. When doctors or hospitals send bills it is itemized to show what the insurance company (if any) pays and the portion the patient is responsible for. I am sure she let him know what was due when she got the bills.

[@Kimi1968ful]

@@Childfree334 she said herself that she waited and sent them when she felt like it.

[@pizzelle2]

@@Kimi1968ful If he knows his child is in regular therapy and 6 mos goes by without being asked to pay anything then he should probably ask if he doesn’t want to get hit with a $1000 bill. If it’s convenient for the mom to do it once a year then who cares? Maybe that’s just how she does her bills. She’s entitled to do that, and she’s entitled to be paid. He’s just moping around whining about not having information while not asking ANY QUESTIONS or being proactive in any way. He made his bed, he can lie and cry in it.

[@Kimi1968ful]

@@pizzelle2 not sure why you are so hostile towards him lol or me for that matter. Mom is no prize either. Nice how she goes off to Greece for a nice vacation when her daughter gets out of the psych ward. You know for the sexual abuse that was eluded to while under the mom's roof. But that's ok because she is entitled to go to Greece.

[@jolenetoscano4414]

He doesn’t seem like a deadbeat dad, apparently they don’t know what a deadbeat is

[@pizzelle2]

A deadbeat dad meaning doesn’t pay for his kid or want to have anything to do with her treatment for what sounds like sexual abuse? Yes, that’s exactly what he is. If your only interest in your child’s mental health care is if it’s “in-network” and you STILL don’t even pay then YES you are a deadbeat…

[@benjie128]

It's a shame the parents hate each other more than they love their daughter.

[@alyssag.5758]

I think it's way deeper than that.

[@David-cc8xe]

With those as her parents, not surprised that she's in therapy.

[@mississippimud7046]

This poor kid has a hard road to recovery because of these parents 😢

[@Jahmai203]

Milian can't let go of the fact that the dad asked if the psychiatrist was "in network", which is a perfectly reasonable question. Milian couldn't hide her bias in this case if she tried

[@toniaphillips9695]

Does it matter, if it's helping your child? Nope🤷🏾‍♀️

[@Childfree334]

My mother took us kids to out of network dentists because the ones on the insurance company list were complete ghetto trash. My father just paid.

[@Jahmai203]

@@Childfree334 Notice I said that the question was reasonable... I didn't say whether or not he should or shouldn't pay. Of course he should pay. But he has a RIGHT to ask.

[@Jahmai203]

@@toniaphillips9695 He has a right to ask. Period. The entire case should not rest on that.

[@barbarabazin9570]

I feel so sorry for the children, I think he is to busy with his new family and she is stressed out,she said herself, I went to Greece because I have them all the time I needed a vacation,plus the girl blames the mom for what ever happened to her because she said that they are working on trusting issues because the child doesn't trust the mom who didn't protected her from what ever.Which to me it must have been sexual abuse or something like that I think everyone checked out on the kids along time ago hopefully therapy will help ,it's sound like they are in their teens hope it's not to late.

[@shirleywiese5230]

Why doesn’t the Dad get custody if the moms do awful?

[@thriftkingdom]

This is not a Sports Game LOL I spilled my drink

[@Barbara-tc6fe]

My Son's Father has chosen not to be in his life .....I don't need his Child Support but I took him to Court just to punish him for not being there. I get $500 Month and yes I'm Petty AF

[@pamelahaze3211]

My ex husband never paid child support and went off to have another family as well. He abandoned his son.. It scarred him... he's 32 now and struggling.

[@autumnleaf29]

i hAave to agree with him in a way she should tell him each time she goes to the doctor and he pay the doctor directly not waiting

[@alyssahamlett]

I agree too I wouldn't want one lump sum of thousands as opposed to couple hundred here or there. milian was so focused on in network but that is a smart question and she should be going to in network Dr's

[@ljackson24]

@@alyssahamlett He seems like a class a jerk. Even if she told him every time she took them, I’ve got a feeling he’d come up with another excuse. Why isn’t he man enough to take initiative about his kids? Why isn’t he asking about how they’re doing? Even if the doctor was out of network, if that’s what the daughter needs, it’s what she needs. It’s called sacrificing, which is part of parenting.

[@Catherine-my1uc]

It's only possible for the parents to work to improve communication to the benefit of the children when both parents are committed to that goal. Even though both parents care deeply about the well-being of the children, a parent can promise to participate in and pay for a portion of the children's therapy and fail to do either. Reasons unknown; no lack of either resources or time. The children suffer. Speaking from experience as a single parent, it was worth every bit of what it took to get the children the help they needed. Please, please do whatever is possible to help your children. While everyone's situation is different, children's needs for love and support are not.

[@lauraanne5175]

His "M.E" sign behind him says it all

[@onecuet]

My daughter had ins coverage through her father's ins via court order. It was the biggest fiasco, because it was his ins. & he did zero communication. The ins. refused to work with me regarding my daughters care, network providers, etc... Her father only saw her twice & never gave me the info. All he had to do was put me on her HIPPA form. He was an ass & never did. I wonder if this happened here with this dad. It sounds as if the mother is too busy living her own life vs caring for her kids best welfare too.

[@queenbee3647]

Same here. I divorced him and he was furious. Anything he could do to make things hard for me, and ignore our daughter was his goal. She was susceptible to viral infections in winter but I didnt have the money to see the doctor, get the chest xrays and pay for meds. All this after the court ordered him to cover her. I got assistance from welfare even though I worked full time. I had full custody and paid my bills and hers. My county was very lazy about enforcing child support. I worked for two months with pneumonia and it destroyed my heart. I almost died. But I raised her. Made sure she had what she needed. She DESPISES her father. She considers him dead.

[@melwesley7578]

He hates his ex wife more than he loves his daughter pitiful!

[@brownskin2742]

It seems like his hatred for the mom came from what happened to the daughter,must have been some really foul stuff..

[@ashleyquam]

You have to love your kids MORE than you hate each other !

[@maryoaks3228]

One of the few episodes I wished I didn’t watch . Poor kids, God bless them.

[@prettylyricsmarie]

The father is a deadbeat dad, and he is making excuses for not paying for the doctor's bills, for his daughters, to get back at his ex wife.

[@badseedent4827]

It's very obvious her hate for him that she didn't and wouldn't give him the information he was asking for...

[@thesundayreset9636]

Divorce is terrible for families. What’s worse is the ExHusb is so hateful towards his ex wife. He can care less about the daughter as evidenced by NOT being in the loop about his child’s health. He expects the mother to coordinate ALL of the care for the daughter while he sits back, criticizes the mother and write checks. He’s so disconnected. Ms. Chyca has some issues but, obviously is struggling with her own MH which takes a toll on the children too. 🥺

[@stevenp25100]

Judge is being unfair as fuck. The difference in price between in and out of network is huge. She should have taken the time to find a doctor on their insurance. And he should be getting bills throughout the year.

[@lulu-iz7bv]

This mother is a loser for starters. What decent parent would have acted like that--I mean, regarding the incident/disaster that required the treatment to begin with. Obviously, she isn't a great parent and doesn't listen to her child. And she set this whole medical payment thing up for failure. She KNEW that slipping in one of her own bills would make his dig in his heels. He would question everything about the bills. Also, since he has partial custody, he was right about how the medical decisions and bills are supposed to be handled. No judge is perfect, and in this case, I think she was a bit biased on how she treated the two.

[@usernamen0tf0und]

seems like this would be a family court issue. also doesn't Judge Milian realize there might be a delay using zoom?

[@kaykepop4084]

Medical bills for my kids come in my husband's name, because our insurance is through his job. If you read the breakdown of service then you'll see the patients name. But it will come through the mail addressed to whomever is listed as the person responsible to pay.

[@ljackson24]

Exactly! That just goes to show, he’s probably never had his kids on his insurance policy and never taken them to the doctor 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

[@MrThenonchosenone]

under the patient's name it was her name lol

[@ashleyhardy4766]

Not all insurances do that. My kids insurance is under their dad but I get all the bills

[@3vrodriguez]

Lots of anger here. Those poor babies, I hope they continue to get the help they need cause they’re not getting it from mom or dad

[@stevebutler812]

I'm going to go out on a limb and tell a story about an emergency room psych eval on a mid-20's, fully disabled patient, who "decompensated" on the same day that the parents were set to go on their first "vacation in years" - a 10 days Cruise. My job was to determine if somebody could be 5150'd (confined for an involuntary 72 hour hold) "as the result of an immediate threat to their 1) self, 2) others, or 3) gravely disabled and unable to care for themselves, 4) as a result of a mental health crisis." This was one of the most difficult evaluations I've ever done out of the hundreds of 5150s. (It would be dishonest if I were not to say that the level / type of insurance one has, and the amount of reimbursement that goes to the provider, tend to have an impact on the amount and quality of service, including no service, one receives in many cases. It is no accident that when you are being assessed the first question is usually, "what's your insurance?") Someone has to pay the bills Anyway, this young patient in the ER had cerebral palsy, had never been long away from her parents, usual baseline of care was in a wheelchair, being fed by a caretaker, having to be diapered, etc. She needed 24 seven / care and her parents had already typically provided for it, and had told me that the people they hired were at their home, and the level of care of the young lady would've gotten parents on a cruise or not was the same. I determined there was no "crisis." The parents were very well off, and there were threats of attorneys, and malpractice. I was in an emergency room in a side room near the main ER desk because the patient needed close monitoring. Staff were very concerned the lady might launch herself off the gurney. The ER wanted her out, basically. Parents denied giving the patient any new medication(s) not already prescribed, including any sedative. In talking with the staff at the hospital it seemed as though the parents wanted to make sure that by the time I got there the young lady was thrashing and scratching sufficiently to get her hospitalized. In other words, they had used medication on almost a daily basis with this young lady for her entire life but for some reason they didn't want to give her a sedative and decided to take her to the ER because, why exactly? I wasn't clear but it seemed like they were trying to dump their daughter on a facility so they could take a vacation. With this young patient nearly naked from ripping their clothes off, thrashing about quite vigorously, and some superficial self-scratching on the forearms, while varying the number and volume of words (that her parents could understand - but I could not), it was getting plenty of attention. The ER has lots going on but... The patient was a full grown adult, nearly naked person, tantruming like a two-year old. Except, it was more like Linda Blair, in the Exorcist. I almost felt like the hospital room staff was taking bets on whether I would 5150 her or not. The more the parents talked about their plans to leave the hospital "any moment" the worse the patients decompensation, and the reverse. If the parents mentioned they "could" stay," the patient calmed significantly. To 5150 this young lady required a very high level of care. The parents had planned for and arranged care, and I was not the one "leaving their daughter in the ER." They made such a fuss that my supervisor ended up coming over to the site. Drama. I denied the 5150. In my opinion, the parents said that they could care for her, they had the means to do so, and they had professional care at their home ready to take over for the 10 days. The young lady was imo "decompensating" because she clearly did not want her parents to go. I hope the parents went. IDK. This adult child was controlling, but they wanted to place her in a facility to go on a cruise. Thats not a crisis. Its poor planning and/or preparation. Those two parents in front of this judge have their own reality, but without somebody independently testifying about the state that this person is actually in, versus relying on how much billing they're doing, it's impossible to know if the treatment is effective. You can't just use the fact that there's been less or more decompensation's, because you have to have goals in therapy that ideally help the person live with the least amount of restrictions on their life. And, getting out of therapy someday should be a goal if it's reasonable. Years and years and years and years and years of therapy is not necessarily helping many people By the way, Mental Health and Medical Health are tied together: A Person could have a brain tumor, over or under-active thyroid, a host of medical problems, be on or off different medications, drugs, alcohol, etc. Without some background in medical health it is almost impossible to do a really thorough job with someone's mental health because the two are very, very intertwined

[@badgurl5758]

This poor child is getting lost in the sauce because of them hating each other. Selfish and being self centered!

[@patsyspry6248]

GAWD!! Their poor children!!! What immature & petty people, they have for parents!!!

[@nylanelson8660]

His conscience is showing as he stated he didn’t want to look like a “Dead Beat Dad” when he is one!

[@lissanne9769]

Why can't these parents be civil with each other? Selfishness...pure Selfishness. It will come back to haunt them someday, especially the father.

[@kathydavenport4422]

Sad I pray the daughters get the help they need for all the abuse they suffer from their mom and dad

[@tamika2019]

The guy made so many excuses for not being a parent. First, he said he didn’t know about the doctor’s appointments. Then, he texted the doctor about being in the network. Regardless of his hatred towards the wife, it seems to me that she is the one getting help for the child. I’m not sure how I feel about her going on vacation. He’s a dad, and he should be capable of taking care of his daughters. If the parents were together, I’m sure he would have encouraged his wife to go. I feel for their children.

[@anthonyslazas2898]

I could be crazy but I think I believe him more than her!

[@keiariabailey8739]

The saddest part is the child is suffering but they hate each other so much

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

Petty petty father. And shame on both of them for letting this get to the point where they're airing their drama for the public on international TV.

[@L.W..]

A healthy coparenting relationship is sooo important especially with something as sensitive as therapy and trauma. It’s super unfortunate because the child is ultimately suffering from their bad blood. Smh very unfortunate.