They don't want it

[@Felixthatdawg]

61k they are out of their mind.

[@ii_dynasty]

What did you expect? 20k?

[@Felixthatdawg]

@ 61k for the base they will sell 3 of these

[@verhu010]

Nothing Stellantis is selling should be purchased at MSRP. Negotiate a big discount.

[@ii_dynasty]

@@Felixthatdawg the base is the 6 pack at 40k the ev starts at 61k.

[@mareo187]

@@ii_dynasty bro u don't understand why dodge last this long, they powerful cars at affordable range prices which is why the 2nd gen charger and 1st gen challengers were banned in most drag races against European vehicles.

[@new_nonsense]

The CEO blaming regulators is the biggest bs I've heard in a while. They could've made regular EVs, phevs while keeping their ICE vehicles. Look at ford and Chevy.

[@lorenzo_1096]

I mean Ferrari literally released a new model with a 6.5L N/A V12 🤷🏻‍♂️, it feels that dodge wants to loose customers

[@zenkoz3158]

It's because these fleet emissions standards are based on a "credits" system and they burned through all of their allowance trying to milk the SRT vehicles. They did this to themselves and now they want sympathy for it 😂

[@Fanboy1222]

2025 will be different. There will be new regulations and to avoid penalty payments you have to sell a lot of evs.

[@bradwhite5884]

Well, Chevy ended production of the current Camaro and the Camaro would become a four door EV or whatever whenever it comes out, dunno what Ford is cooking, but all have the same mentality tbh

[@gregorymalchuk272]

​@@Fanboy1222The coming EPA car and truck standards will cost the economy 3 trillion dollars. The US GDP is only 29 trillion.

[@johncarlofernandez2698]

With enough desperation, they'll soon make a V8 version of it.

[@roberthyma5695]

it’s not because they don’t like v8s it’s because of regulations

[@mikeicee]

They can make V8s the only issue is it’s taxed higher but the tax is hidden like the gasoline tax. They want gov money but the income comes from consumers

[@fortheloveofnoise]

​@roberthyma5695 Actually no, it is because the new owners have an EV agenda and are part of a certain movement....

[@somenygaard]

The twin turbo I6 is a pretty good, powerful engine. I don’t see any new v8’s coming from them in the future.

[@ZLRACING123]

Ford is still making v8 engines without any issues. I don't know a single car enthusiast that would pick an ev or inline 6 charger when there is a 5.0 v8 option on the market. Hell ford performance offers a supercharger kit with warranty that bumps the power to 750+ hp. Dodge is gonna be on life support in 5 years or less. ​@roberthyma5695

[@Luka9S9]

The old Charger started around 35K, this new one is nearly double of that, how can they expect people to buy when it's over 20K more expensive than the old one while also being electric is beyond me.

[@TomazHilton]

You can’t compare. Because the cars coming out are in the middle pack of the Chargers model range. When the challenger came out it was SRT only. The. The lower trims came a year later.

[@nitroxylictv]

​@@TomazHilton You can compare. The price is even more expensive than just comparing based on inflation. This thing has a barebones interior with fake leather but cost more than a luxurious mid range BMW.

[@TomazHilton]

@ @ the interior is NOT bare bones, it’s simplistic/minimalistic yes, bare bones no. Most EVs do have fake leather for the sake of “Green”. Even “Alcartara” is fake, not many cars in general will have authentic leather. Also this car starts at 59,995 the same starting price as a 2025 5 Series.. a BMW that’s actually smaller than this Charger. Hell the i5 costs more the charger.

[@guillermoperezsantos]

Also and old Chargar may last double or triple the EV´s life

[@nlm7033]

They don't need to sell the cars. They just need Jamar to pay 6 months of payments before they repo it and repeat ad nauseum

[@aymanlockhartable]

•Dodge EV charger 5,838 lbs •The curb weight of a Ford F-150 can range from 4,021 to 5,697 lbs The Model X Long Range weighs 5,400+ pounds. •The Suburban curb weight 5,824 lbs.

[@mrsoisauce9017]

Dodge Demon 170 curb weight: 4,275 lbs Dodge Challenger Hellcat curb weight: 4,415 lbs For reference against other sports cars: Toyota GR Supra curb weight: 3,389 lbs-3,411 lbs (depending on the model) Ford Mustang S650 curb weight: 3,579 lbs-3,933 lbs (depending on the model) It’s not like the Challenger was a light vehicle anyway. It’d be different if we were talking about a Lotus, but a Dodge is basically a supercharged land cruiser. When it comes specifically to Dodge vehicles, weight is probably the least important aspect of the car as long as the acceleration, power and top speed are there

[@benjamincaron46]

This make the new BMW M5 seem light by comparison! I bet the plug in hybrid Inline 6 Charger will be over three tonnes.

[@anticorporatists9959]

Another problem with EVs being their heavier than necessary burns out the tires faster

[@Matt-ne6de]

my daily driver a 92 saab 900 is 2700lbs and has better rollover and windshield frame strength than the heavier gm saabs that replaced it because saab started using trash steel like all the other cars instead of aerospace grade.

[@theussmirage]

Imagine how light it's gonna be when they put an engine in it

[@Jason-ml3vs]

$1000 on a car that’s overpriced by $35000.

[@Akosa117]

What? Base is 61k Show me literally ONE car under 30k with all the features of this car. I swear you kids just make up anything about stuff you don’t like

[@richardwetzeliii4195]

@@Akosa117 I could show you quite a few cars with all the features of this car for under 30k. They wouldn't be as fast and wont have the performance related features but they'll have everything else.. Toyota Camry(28.4k) and Carolla(Highest end Corolla trim is 27,890) to name just 2 from Toyota. I swear you kids just make up anything about stuff you don't like.

[@Akosa117]

@@richardwetzeliii4195 “They wouldn't be as fast and wont have the performance related features” what part of “all the features” were you not able to comprehend? Go ahead and try again. Or swallow that pride and admit you can’t.

[@HIDHIFDB]

61k for a car that is not german or italian is a waste of money, 30k is the max than those cars should be also they v8 with manual

[@QK_62]

not sure if it is just me but the design keeps making me have to remind myself that it is a charger and not a challenger.

[@benjaminbrown7127]

Same here

[@DodgerFloof]

Classic Chargers looked like this, look it up.

[@EatSleepEmpire]

Definitely more charger. The square open front and the long sloping rear is that 68-70 charger.

[@OIIO_BEAMNG]

But it doesn't look anything like a Challenger... it's straight up a modernized 68 Charger

[@larryhouse3776]

This thing is way more Charger to me. But its more inspired by a 1966 I feel. Where 68-70 was peak era.

[@tingokuman]

Stellantis thinks they can take our beloved hemi and replace it with a vaccum we never asked for. 😂😂

[@ArthurX-eg8bc]

It takes over one-thousand horsepower to keep up with an Electric Vehicle, the company has every right to ask its engineers to do something else. I bet a lot of tickets get written in these. A North Carolina Police Department just bought their first Mustang Mach E Interceptor to keep up when the Chargers could not.

[@Derly24]

@@ArthurX-eg8bcno it doesn’t 😂 there’s EV vehicles that can accelerate as fast as a ‘24 Mustang GT, and that juice runs out quick and Godforbid you go over a curb in an EV.

[@Kev27RS]

Even a V6 in it is a turn-off…

[@nitroxylictv]

​@@ArthurX-eg8bc What? They have the acceleration but electric motors are terrible at keeping torque at high rpm. You can accelerate 0-60 in 3 seconds but you arent going to go 150mph. Its the opposite of ICE, where they go 0-60 slower but mantain high speeds.

[@finalboss7956]

​@@nitroxylictv also, in 10years that EV charger will be scrap metal

[@TheDCJason]

I really like this design. I dont think it'll sell, but it looks great.

[@woahwoah2207]

Front looks cool, but the side and the back are mid

[@truereaper4572]

@@woahwoah2207 Opposite for me. The side profile and rear are very reminiscent of the beautiful 2nd gen chargers. The front just looks weird, like it's trying too hard to look "futuristic".

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

The solid light bar design is so generic. How many brands are going to do it .. I feel like the headlights make or break a car and it's aggresive look. This car is as bland as a tesla

[@verhu010]

It looks way worse than the previous generation.

[@chev555]

honestly, in the states, hell no, its priced way too high for what it offers. However, in Canada its only a couple thousand more than a model 3, offers more range, better styling, a dealership service network that is very robust, and its at least trying to be fun, plus up here the awd system alone will be a massive selling point. Like me personally, I'd love to have one as a future family/enthusiast car, hell, I already sold another person on one on the looks and awd alone, plus the fact that it costs as much as the model y he bought up here.

[@johnshaw3208]

Regulations from the government has alot to do with it. Just look at Ford, Mercedes and VW's statements they have issued regarding EVs. They all have experienced massive losses with EVs and are returning to ICE.

[@Michael-pi8ps]

Dodge’s problem is that they never innovated their cars. So they adopted a fan base that was completely against anything new. Instead of innovating and improving the Hemi, Dodge chose to pay billions of dollars for EV tax credits from Tesla. Meanwhile Ford changes their Coyote constantly. Ford also brings out things like a V6 Ford GT or an electric F150. This leads to Ford owners being used to change and at least being willing to see what the new thing is like. The same applies to GM. They make an all electric Hummer, Cadillac is making a $300k car, the Corvette is mid engined, the corvette is available as a hybrid, or a NA V8 with a 8,500 redline or as a TTV8 with 1,000hp. Meanwhile Dodge has done nothing innovative ever. The Viper was the same for its entire 25 years of life, the LX platform that the charger/challenger were based off was used for 19 years straight, the Durango has been the same for 15 years…

[@DJdoppIer]

They innovate their designs and nothing else. Internally, it's the same shit (or worse) year after year.

[@nitroxylictv]

Innovation is not the same as changing designs. If something is good enough to last decades (Dodge Viper) it shouldnt be changed so much because it dilutes the heritage.

[@tiberiusfellblade2567]

Biggest L take ever. Why should consumers get used to change? Why should we reinvent the wheel every 10 years if the old wheel is still desired? The "problem" you just illustrated is why economies have to constantly go up eventually you hit a ceiling or a drop off point so that the economy can reset. Dodge had one of the coolest looking cars with an engine that everyone enjoyed. Why change what works? Dodge has been a performance car company since they dropped their passenger sedans and hatchbacks. That is their niche they have now chosen to alienate their entire customer base who enjoy fast cars with powerful engines for people who literally do not exist or are out buying SUV's or teslas. They will not get any business from this and now they have soured relations with their existing customers. It is the companies responsibility to provide products that their consumers want not the other way around.

[@Finraen]

@@tiberiusfellblade2567 Give it time. This initial EV Charger will mostly appeal to only a new segment for Dodge. Probably mostly current EV owners. The inline 6 ICE version will be great for a lot of people - more than a 150 HP improvement on current Charger / Challenger V6 models. Eventually, there *will* be a V8 version. Also, Challenger will return eventually - and that would certainly come with a V8 revival. This is just a phase Dodge is going through.

[@tiberiusfellblade2567]

@Finraen i guess they didn't learn from the death of pontiac. Hopefully they realize it before its too late.

[@danielmcintyre7405]

Side note but I think the reason this works for Hyundai Ionic N is not only because it’s well integrated but because there isn’t a high expectation from them with ICEs

[@littlejimmy7402]

Tech savvy people are normally pretty cool with a lot of the innovation that Japanese and Korean car makers have brought to smaller vehicles. Hyundai is still trying to improve.

[@tomtumulec2504]

EV charger is like vegan burger on the KFC menu

[@tommc3622]

Worse. It's KFC saying: "We're not making chicken anymore. Here, have a veggie burger...it's basically the same as chicken."

[@PedroHenriquePS00000]

​@@tommc3622yeaaa this is a middle finger to custumers.... like wtf. Nobody wants an EV...

[@Aavora]

KFC does sell a vegan burger. But I have to say… that is accurate.

[@rogerrussell9544]

@@tommc3622 It's the future, you're going to have to deal with it....! The government says so! (how will that work when the election is here?)

[@tommc3622]

​@rogerrussell9544 I don't have to buy new. I have my '22 Challenger. I wanted one before they were gone, but it's the last new car I will buy. When I retire my current commuter, I plan to replace it with a low mileage "collectors" vehicle from pre 1990. $20k buys a lot of museum quality 1980s iron. ... I will NEVER buy an EV.

[@yanis_s500]

This is going to be a big fail for the Dodge!

[@konekillerking]

Going to be? Already is.

[@Finraen]

@@konekillerking It might be a PR fail to some extent. If they can get pricing down a bit, I'm convinced this will sell enough to *not* be a failure. Sure, it most likely won't appeal to current V8 muscle car fans. But it's a good-looking car. It will be eye catching. And the EV "exhaust" will turn heads as well, even if some don't like it. Polarizing products usually sell enough to succeed. I think a lot of current EV owners will like this more than their current Tesla based purely on vanity, so it will give Dodge a slice of the EV market pie. That's what they need right now. Also, there are a LOT of V6 Charger / Challenger owners out there who would be ok with swapping to an EV (if they can afford it). For those that don't want an EV, the I6 Charger looks like it will have great performance compared to current V6 and even V8 R/T. Almost in line with current Scat Packs. You can make current V6 Chargers / Challengers sound pretty good with mods, so I'm sure people will be able to tune/mod the I6 to be a legit muscle car experience. They will sell the I6 like hotcakes. For the V8-only crowd? Keep being vocal. A V8 trim of this... and possibly a new Challenger redesign with a V8... are probably right around the corner.

[@Festive1-zp1ui]

Sell it as a Chrysler, that is how. Other than the 300, the Dodge brand has already been vetted as an asphalt destroying V8 Hemi. No Mopar buyers want EV Chargers and Challengers.

[@w210black]

Fact

[@mrsoisauce9017]

No muscle car buyers want an EV. Even if the EV will deliver exactly the same experience as an ICE car without some of the drawbacks, muscle car owners are too stuck in the past, unable to look past the “good ol’ days” and demanding everything stay the same as it always was. There’s a reason the muscle car formula has not changed since the first muscle car in 1949

[@MrSandChess]

“…asphalt destroying V8 hemi.” Everything you said is true and makes sense except that, that’s pretty cringey.

[@tiberiusfellblade2567]

@@MrSandChess you wouldn't understand

[@ravendagrey]

Right? That was my first thought when they announced this car. The EV should of been a Chrysler 300 and the ICE version the Charger!

[@q8_cyber]

The only good thing about that car is that they fixed the stealing problem in the US

[@WaveManMike]

I think this car will do better with the Tech Enthusiasts vs the Car Enthusiasts, kinda like Tesla. Might even bring in Art lovers since it has a retro looking design.

[@domoniquebrooks816]

You'd be surprised how much overlap there is between Tech Enthusiasts and Car Enthusiasts. Even Tech guys love ICE vehicles. It's not looking good for Dodge with this one.

[@freddybell8328]

@@domoniquebrooks816 If you like muscle cars purely for the design it will sell.

[@asyrafrasid4090]

​@freddybell8328 wanna bet? It will flop for sure

[@lIllIlllIlIllIlllIlIllIlllIl]

Tech guys are generally well off in the current industry. They are probably looking at an E-ray instead of a name which is now deeply associated with street hooligans.

[@hertzwave8001]

@@asyrafrasid4090 Six-pack will do fine

[@dukie1616]

Why don’t they just lean into the natural electric sounds and amplify that. I’m sure it would sound wicked and authentic. Along with tires squealing it would create its own unique feelings.

[@littlejimmy7402]

Yeah, the pumped out sound is kinda like making car noises like I did as a kid. And I guess sometimes I still do.

[@darthquigley]

Muscle car nostalgia trap. It's like how the 1993 Camaro looks newer than any Camaro after 2010. They decided to go retro and now they can't escape the 60s.

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

@@darthquigley Nice reference. I'm genuinely sad we'll never get a Camaro that looks like a Gen 3 or Gen 4 rewarmed, because appealing to the cult of the boomer means ignoring their post-60s history.

[@dukie1616]

@@littlejimmy7402 yes😂👏

[@Ghettofinger]

Because a good brushless electric motor makes no sound. The better and more efficient the electric motor is, the less sound it makes, especially at lower speeds and idling.

[@djplonghead5403]

They should of put as much original 1st gen charger into this as possible. They did a decent job on the exterior but the interior could have way more homage to the 60’s. I think the new scout vehicles did an amazing job of a modern interior but it has a vintage vibe to it.

[@truereaper4572]

A fastback charger design would've been interesting to see in this day and age.

[@labounti]

​@@truereaper4572it is a fast back...

[@grahamstefaan]

Way too much fender above front wheel like a fwd car.

[@justinaz282]

Wait, there's a new scout?

[@ljtowers5161]

A big reason why people like big V8 muscle cars is because they want a street legal NASCAR sort to speak. People see those stock cars in races and wish they had that and that’s where the interest in muscle cars originated from. It’s also like a cultural thing associated with american culture. It also stimulates all your senses, the looks, the smell of burnt gasoline, the sound of a roaring V8, the feel of the vibrations of the engine, the taste of victory lol. You get what I mean. All of this comes together to give the car what we call a “soul”. This EV is soulless like most EVs.

[@caseygtr]

It's a cool looking car and a turbo L6 with awd is a great set up, but Mopar fans can't comprehend anything that isn't a v8 and it's too expensive.

[@AnthroGearhead]

That's the problem, majority of MOPAR fans are toxic

[@Toetalwar]

nor should they have too

[@aurorajones8481]

13:22 The truth is Dodge should not be doing electric at all, but because of regulation they SHOULD have this along side their current offerings not throwing the baby out w/ the bath water.

[@dwightk.schruteiii8454]

I sat in this car at the miami auto show. I loved it. The interior was huge. It looked awesome. But that damn ev man.

[@alphatrion100]

Well, It looks like a charger!

[@jamesharden3timedpoy466]

A phone charger 😂

[@alphatrion100]

@jamesharden3timedpoy466 It's really not an ugly car though I think it looks way better than the previous models. Well, the recent ones.

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

@@jamesharden3timedpoy466 Hardly, it's a great looking car with a poor choice of drivetrain.

[@donaldsalkovick396]

There's nothing wrong with this car, or EVs in general. It only becomes a problem when the government mandates it. It's always nice to have choices. People like different stuff there's no need to demonize either Evs or IC cars

[@comicrandomness3289]

Yeah. Fords f150 is cool. You can buy a gas, diesel, hybrid or electric f150. Plus the diesel engine is made by ford. Gm and ram use third party engines.

[@guse1219]

It may be the other way around. Someone who likes EVs but wants something different.

[@lorenzostella9031]

@@guse1219 exactly, finding a new market, for every tesla owner there is a guy who wants a cooler car

[@Aggie4life77]

Yeah, when you think about it, it will be the first EV that would be different than the sedans, trucks and crossovers that are out there!

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

EV market isn't that big. Just look at mercedes. Their sales went to shih when they got rid of the v8. So much so they had to bring it back.

[@lorenzostella9031]

@ in europe electric cars account for more than 20% of all new cars registration so a lot of cars, more than that there is no such car like that in the market so it would be the only and so it would surely sell through young people buying an electric sport car

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

@@lorenzostella9031 young people want a loud crazy engine bruh atleast here in the U.S. I look at EVs are poor man's sports cars. Espically teslas. That's the only reason I would see a young person getting one

[@IrenkaStefan]

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[@Kenneth-1900]

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[@GuileneAuman]

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[@AlessaMyranda]

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[@richardwagner6359]

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[@BrianWMoore]

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[@johnmuzic3475]

with all the newest internal combustion and turbo tech and electric turbo tech and synthetic gas like Porsche is working on, they could've gone for a brand new twin turbo V-8 that can run on synthetic gas to not put out nearly as much pollution and then dropped in two front EV motors to get AWD and make the acceleration times insanely quick...

[@tythegreatttg]

The back kinda looks like the gta 5 Buffalo S

[@HIDHIFDB]

It looks like the mix of the gta mustang and challenger

[@rogerrussell9544]

They can't even deliver working units to dealers, they brick.

[@GaryKetchum808]

Funny cus this thing was 100% made for me. I’m the rare breed where I LOVE the retro muscle car design, and I LOVE quick, efficient, instant torque EV drivetrains. On top of that, you can get it AWD and a hatchback coupe. This car literally checks all my boxes except for the price.

[@DJdoppIer]

_"Waiting for an inline six"_ on a Charger has never sounded more depressing.

[@littlejimmy7402]

I hope they use that ridiculous old San Diego Super Charger disco song as the music in the add.

[@SoI_Badguy]

There was the HEMI-6, an inline 6 from Australia. Pretty cool engine.

[@rabbidcrazy787]

Ikr?

[@rabbidcrazy787]

​@@littlejimmy7402Lol

[@rabbidcrazy787]

​@@SoI_BadguyNah, it's a lame engine. Idk why Australia didn't get the 425 hp 7.0L Hemi V8 version that Americans got.

[@freddybell8328]

If they need to comply with emissions they could have just made a plug-in hybrid Hellcat. Yes it would've cost more but people will still buy it. Just call it Hellcat X or something cool.

[@the80386]

How about licensing the name ThunderCat? tbh, the name Charger is already a perfect fit for PHEV/EVs.

[@EatSleepEmpire]

9:23 this front the quarters looks incredible. Especially in that color.

[@kenshinbattousai374]

Charger drivers wouldn't buy an EV even if they could read. Edit: changed owners to drivers because....you know.

[@steamroller72]

Current Redline Red Scat Pack owner here...ZERO chance i ever buy an EV version of this car. They can rot with their greed & lack of customer base understanding.

[@jasonswitzer1748]

My biggest gripe is actually the silhouette. The hood isn’t long and low enough. It’s a less iconic chapel compared to to the last Dodge Challenger. I saw one in person in Detroit and it’s not bad… but it doesn’t make feel like “damn… that’s sexy as hell and I want one now.” Also, the rear hatch/trunk area of the car that is slightly upswept looks more like the 90s/early ‘00s designs that were far less iconic or sexy. It’s kind of a miss and it makes me sad. Maybe they can update the front end grill during the mid-cycle refresh to look slightly more retro. You nailed the exterior analysis. I share all your opinions about extending the hood, making the C pillar drop down sooner to create a define trunk, and to make the car look slightly more boxy/less organic.

[@herbderbler1585]

Imagine looking at an already somewhat limited market and deciding, "let's make something that only appeals to 22% of buyers."

[@crazyidiot5309]

Also, a Tesla Model 3 performance would WHIP this thing.

[@Jose_cab]

It’s not even just about being an EV. this thing is priced like a luxury brand and almost more expensive. Why would you buy a freaking dodge when you can get a bmw or Mercedes that will look better, drive better, feel better and just be better for the same price.

[@cartilagehead]

Dodge is in a weird place, kind of like Harley Davidson. From a market standpoint both are niche companies that have found success at various points over the past 3 decades mostly by targeting a specific, mostly boomer-aged audience with money at the expense of everything and everyone else. Both have come very close to insolvency and been helped from the brink by government bailouts and trade protection shenanigans. Both have made half-hearted attempts and even some full-hearted attempts at branching out or appealing to other buyers with very limited success. Both now desperately need to appeal to a market entirely outside of their existing fanbase to survive.

[@benjamincaron46]

Both Harley and Stellantis have been purchased by globalist elites. Who knows what company they want next?

[@vapecatt]

The car community will not stand for less than average anymore. And I here for it.

[@Anonihmus2567]

I mean i get that stellantis is getting squeezed by both north America and european regulations but they didn't even try to build a smaller more efficient v8 for any level of their products it just seems like they were way more interested consolidating powertrains per brand to save money and then hike up prices per trim level

[@vHeartAndS0ul]

"we're not allowed to make hemis anymore" yet ford and chevy keep making new v8s. stellantis loves to lie

[@rabbidcrazy787]

And let's not forget that many German, British, and even a few Italian brands are still using V8s despite EU emission laws.

[@Santor-]

Try buy a Ford with V8. Nothing available anywhere. Truck with V8? "Sure, but right now we only have these 2.7's". I did a nationwide search for a 2024 f150 with V8, and found nada. All who claimed they had it, was either in transit, or sold before delivered in transit. The dealerships said they tried to order many, but got nothing, or maybe 2 per semester, which all sold before they even got them.

[@rabbidcrazy787]

@@Santor- You're joking. Ik it.

[@vHeartAndS0ul]

@@Santor- you may be right about f150s, but v8 mustangs are everywehere

[@Santor-]

@@rabbidcrazy787 No, I'm actually not joking. However, there was a solution; simply order one, so I did. Dealer said customer orders got preference over dealers. Basically if one REALLY want one, and are willing to wait 3-5 months, you can get one. All others get the 2.7, or 3.5 depending on model. It seems it's intentional to keep less V8s on the road, to better meet cafe standards. But there sure won't be many used ones around down the line.

[@ChromeConnoisseur08]

"they don't want an electric dodge charger" NO WAY REALLY 🤯🤯🤯

[@djuanboone4830]

I think the Hurricane version will sell if the price is lowered.

[@MFD00M47]

Ok but anyone NOT excited about the inline 6 charger is insane. It has more displacement in the base package than the v8 scat pack did...not to mention inline 6s are more reliable better on fuel just all around a better engine than a v8

[@ryanfraley7113]

Mopar fans only look at the spec sheet and say “no V8, bad”

[@aurorajones8481]

1:51 Thats not true. Its a real instrument they designed and put in there to make noise. A real wind instrument which is powered by compressed air going through it. So it is REAL. Its fake in the sense that its put there on PURPOSE for an effect that is missing naturally which is fake. I see where your going w/ the statement but its not speakers its different. Is it good enough for what we all want? Hell if i know i haven't heard it in person. Id wait for that to yield final judgement. The sound aside I'm a car guy and id never buy an ev. Ill buy used before an ev. I had one. It was fine but i realized i like ICE more than EV. And I'm aloud to have a prefrence.

[@GH05TR1DR]

This is what I imagined it was when I first heard about it, but I couldn't find a real answer anywhere. You would think Dodge would want to specify that's it's not speakers.

[@Duck4You]

Ok

[@dylanw890]

I will admit that for staying true to the original muscle car DNA, I do I like it because they certainly could have discontinued this and made it an SUV like every other brand. However, I know all of you are asking for a V8 but even if it came with one, it would most likely be sold at a crazy premium and be limited to those willing to pony up 100k+ for limited V8 run as I can’t see Dodge running this with a production V8

[@midwest9040]

With all the marketing clinics that they had to have, and knowing the Bubbhas and Beaus that their fan base sells to- they would know that they are at least $15K overpriced.

[@punygreenman5956]

Hi, its me. The guy that likes the look of muscle cars and box chevys too but is not particularly interested in engines. After watching Ikon Derelict videos by Jonathan Ward I would love a classic car but full EV. Its the silence and comfort that I like. Engines are noisy and yes they're fun when driving hard and especially needed when driving manual but for everyday use the quietness is appreciated.

[@meduzarbuz7605]

The v8 experience is insane. I have an 04 m45 and just the engine running is so engaging. You can hear and feel the pistons moving, almost can tell the firing order. It makes even slow traffic fun, every gas pedal input is felt, and you dont even need to look at the tachometer to tell your rpms. It's such a detailed sensory experience even a change of 500 rpm is significant. Going electric is such a loss to the people excited for dodge's next car

[@jollypoggers6133]

The way they shaped the headlights makes it look like the sad, tired model it's come to be

[@chevycoupev1052]

a charger without a V8 is like a lexus without reliability, just a mid looking disposable piece of plastic and metal, an expensive one too if its over 60k.

[@JamesStiling]

Remake the K car with an EV powertrain. Leave the muscle cars alone

[@User.Joshua]

Long time car enthusiasts here. I'd buy it. I love screaming V8s and howling v10s, but ultimately, I just like to go fast.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

for me it is all about the manual transmission...while i would prefer a V8... I would rather have a 3 cylinder with a manual than a V8 automatic

[@naderhamdan4950]

60k base price for a dodge? And on top of that they want to force yet another ev down our throats. ICE for life!!!!!

[@chev555]

funnily enough, up here in canada its gonna be 58k, which converted to usd is like 41k, so we are getting it for around 18k usd cheaper for some reason (well I'm assuming so it can qualify for the credits). But this pricing puts it on par with the model 3 and most other entry level evs that are properly capable of going between provinces (ioniq 6 and 5, ev6, and maybe the bolt, kona and niro evs if you don't mind long charge times). So honestly, while it may not be the muscle car many wanted, its still an ev coupe that is relatively affordable compared to other evs, so honestly, I see it as a massive win.

[@Straightcoolin-qq1qs]

​@@chev555Plus govt incentives and the dodge $1000 incentive wouldn't that put it in Elantra N territory?

[@chev555]

@Straightcoolin-qq1qs depending on the province, actually cheaper I think. Because I believe in total quebec gets like 12k in incentives, which that alone would put it almost exactly at the elantra n's price point. But even more importantly, in terms of other "sporty" evs (of which there really aren't many), this looks to be the cheapest option. The mach e is the mach e and is only like 5k cheaper, the model 3 has a bit more or around the same range but is much more boring and just generally worse in almost every regard (it's not even that light anymore), and all the other options are either just as expensive or more expensive than the base. Now the scat pack, that is gonna be a pretty hard sell, but the basic r/t should be a hit up here, especially with the standard awd.

[@nairbudy6403]

I think it looks great as-is…maybe needs door gills like a ‘68 and lowered a bit. The hatch is huge functional benefit.

[@TheBonsaiZone]

Looks like a futurist movie car from 1970!

[@ArtifexBarbarus]

Personally, I love it. I currently drive an electric VW Golf, and miss the performance of my old Mustang GT... There’re very few EVs on the market that aren’t SUVs/trucks, and fewer still that don’t put money in Elon Musk’s pocket. I’m not sure Stellantis is capable of building a quality EV muscle car at a reasonable price, but I’ll keep an eye on these when they hit the road

[@charleshulsey3103]

Looks great. I hate the "exhaust" speaker.

[@greentokyo]

Just turn it off then

[@jeromep3182]

The only ones who are going to buy these are rental companies and feel possibly state and federal agencies that’s it’s regular consumers will buy up the old stock of vehicles with incentives from dealers attached to move them off the lot to make room for new inventory.

[@b1r2y3n]

I love this design

[@keninhb2196]

'21 Challenger Hellcat Redeye WB owner here. Just washed it yesterday, what a beautiful car (I still love it). I have zero, actually less than zero, interest in this EV.

[@nickb9563]

1:43 anyone else hear spongebob screaming?

[@kencanette]

I'm an ev owner (kia ev6) and I am interested in a EV charger if the price is right . I like the looks and I don't want to spend cash on gas. Electricity is much cheaper around here

[@JohnSmith-nz8rg]

IDK i find it pretty easy to differentiate between the EV and ICE Version, less than 1 second when you look at the hood of the car.

[@parker73724]

My theory is someone is trying to implode the dodge brand. It's obvious they know how bad these decisions are. I also don't buy the "regulators forced us to make this manly ev" line for a second. They for sure could have made more efficient combustion engines that comply with regulations (look at zr1). I genuinely think Stellantis just thinks dodge owners are mentally challenged and will buy anything if they tell them "it's cool and barely legal".

[@Kmarolord_wbk]

Please do the NEW Lexus LFR PROTOTYPE, please unveil it with your talent 🙏🏼

[@wheelwrightpl9429]

EV or ICE-powered automatic ? Not much difference, because nowadays they are both smooth and refined to the point of boredom. And if you want HEMI-sound it is possible to just pump it out from the speakers, which may actually sound better, because tire or wind noise won't dampen the engine sound. On the other hand no EV can emulate the experience of driving a manual transmission.

[@lorenzostella9031]

i would buy the electric one, i live in italy, i have an house to charge it, solar panels, and gas here costs a ton so i’m all for it

[@ImReqularr]

Plenty of better EVs on the market for you to buy. He means nobody owning/looking for a petrol Charger is going to be interested in the ev model.

[@marco_grt4460]

La Giulia avrà la sua piattaforma, con l'Hurricane versione 4 cilindri al massimo e la versione elettrica

[@lorenzostella9031]

@@ImReqularr i undestand, but many electric car buyers finally will have a cool and sporty alternative on the market, rn i’m on the decision to buy a used model x, but if this one was on my market as a man with no kids this would be a no brainer

[@rabbidcrazy787]

You shouldn't. Just get a used Lambo instead. Also, have fun with expensive electric bills.

[@lytatroan]

despite its issues in terms of management and corpo stuff, i do like this car a lot. It's the closest i'll get to a classic one due to its retro style. If only stellantis wasn't soo greedy and actually cared about the US

[@alimzazaz]

Instead of jumping in straight to EV, I think dodge should dable in transitioning tech such as - Electric turbo/supercharger - Electric front axle (AWD) - 48V mild hybrid system All of this transitioning tech can be implemented on their car without downsizing the engine or get rid of the v8. Imagine a charger with 1000hp from the v8 coupled with an electric turbo that has no lag, that'll be sick!

[@buttermybiscuit8181]

If it looked more like the concept they showed us alot more people would purchase it cz that thing looked gorgeous ik alot of people spet on it and called it ugly, but i think we can all agree it looked great now

[@jdkelly5448]

Pls do a redesign video of this charger

[@PrivateEyeYiYi]

It depends. Price it below comparable cars and people will consider it. Also lose the fake sound. Tesla sells lots of performance versions that make no sound.

[@gabrielgomez731]

Body and interior they absolutely killed it no hemi thats a fail. I want them to bring back plymouth roadrunner or cude or even the gtx and continue the dodge challenger

[@timallred6789]

I love the way it looks the charger needed to change the chassis but i wouldn't get one without a v8 it just wouldn't feel right

[@keoki777]

I really don't like how the front fenders and hood are arched upward not aligning to the rest of the body line.

[@jakecannet4527]

People just want v8s. Not 6 cylinders. Not an EV....ugh its so exhausting

[@GIwillo]

I think it is quite easy to gain buyers when cars like this are just different and more exciting than the bland or too overstyled looking EVs out there. It is definetly out of my price range but from the available EVs today, this looks very attractive to me. I really like classic cars and ICE engines for the most part, but i am also just fed up driving them in day to day commuting; like sitting in traffic with the engine idling and putting nothing out but noise and pollution. EVs are just so much more relaxing

[@noahdimario1379]

I’ve heard one in person, it’s actually convincingly loud at idle

[@06treehunter]

Dont want an EV or hybrid but rented one recently and from what I can tell. I had one day of easy highway cruising and got 40mpg. All the other days I was getting the same MPG as a gas engine. Doesn't seem worth it to me.

[@McLongSausage]

Anyone else getting strong Goigetto Giugiaro vibes off of this, especially the front grill and some of those long sloping lines.

[@Browningate]

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I'd be as happy with an electric Challenger as I would with a V8-powered option. Same great torque with surprisingly-good styling.

[@VaughnJogVlog]

Scat pack suggestions Hellcat and Demon type trims, which I guess would be absurdly priced.

[@MS06R-2]

I WILL SAY IT A MILLION TIMES IF THEY GAVE US THE CAR THAT LOOKED AND PERFORMED LIKE THE CONCEPT THINGS WOULD BE THIS WAY

[@angelalvarez7950]

Every press event/ad for this car highlights the artificial exhaust like it’s the only selling point

[@redparis9225]

The Audi etron GT had a great design. Still didn't sell

[@Kev27RS]

I hope they release a limited edition version with a big HEMI V8! 💪🏼

[@RandyOrtonsfather]

That interior does look really nice

[@randyhatter8907]

I had a 2019 challenger rt, loved that car, the only way dodge will get me interested in an electric charger or an electric challenger is if they make the body that of a 68 69 and 70 charger and challenger

[@BaDArxz]

No V8, no sale

[@Aggie4life77]

I personally think Dodge needs to go into a different direction and appeal to different people than the Muscle car owners! Their issue right now is that they’re not diversified in their product and their buyers don’t want anything new!

[@jubalbiggs2989]

The entire reason that "muscle car" is a thing at all is because companies like Dodge actually listened to their customers. It was a pure popularity, fan based grassroots thing. Corporate types never liked muscle cars and regulators always hated them. Regulators tried to kill the entire category back in the 70s and nearly did so (we actually had a 4 cylinder "mustang" hatchback within a decade of some of the most awesome and collectible muscle cars ever). The entire segment is and always was about regular people who wanted a fun, badass car and didn't care how non-PC that was. When Dodge made the Viper back in the 90s, it was a rebel move, and the modern Charger and Challenger very much grew out of that spirit (Viper was the ultimate DGAF car, and the thinking was that people who could never afford one of those would buy something like a Challenger, which they did). So I am confused. Where is this weird idea coming from that it is Dodge's responsibility to properly "educate" it's customers to get with the EV program? Why is it now their job to condition people to buy stuff they absolutely don't want when their entire brand was built on listening to the customers and NOT bowing to PC pressure in the first place?

[@Coyote.five.0]

i do want an ev , i have an ev , i traded my gt500 2012 for a performance model 3 , i also do want that charger ev coupe , overall it looks very cool and im on board for doing a coupe ev thats what i need at least o sporty coupe ev .

[@zkiller195]

7:16 You can absolutely tell the difference between the ICE and EV versions. The EV has an entirely different front end with the front "R Wing"

[@worldhello1234]

Making the Charger a muscle "Skyline GTR" is really a great idea.

[@John-kx3ng]

These will be absolute flop due to price and lack of demand.

[@Desert_Rogue_Tanker]

I would buy the inline 6 tbh

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

I'd buy the V8.

[@barrak2k059]

@@F1ll1nTh3Blanksbro is buying nothing

[@tingokuman]

You will get laughed at. When you take this whale in for its many anticipated repairs hopefully Dodge still exists to fix it. Keep in mind Dodge has never been good at making anything outside of LX chassis Hemis.

[@Desert_Rogue_Tanker]

@tingokuman we don't know what kind of potential there is in the hurricane . would the car need to be lighter,yes.weight reduction is needed,no question.but for a Daily Driven car.i don't see many negatives

[@ii_dynasty]

​@Desert_Rogue_Tanker Not true, engine is capable of 1,000hp