Meat eater has questions for vegan activist

[@ed.winters]

Happy to say he came back after lunch to let me know he got the vegan option :) - Sign up for a free 22 day vegan challenge here: bit.ly/22veganed Become a supporter of my activism & university touring here (thank you!): www.earthlinged.org/support FREE 122 page e-book: www.earthlinged.org/ebook

[@hayleyhawkins]

YES

[@veganbadbitch8961]

💚💚💚👏 both of you rock!

[@markgoodrum4543]

that's awesome that he chose that. Slowly but surely were making a difference by spreading a message

[@astonbrissett9747]

the waxen pith synthetic lab made vitamins 😁

[@iams2109]

Vegans are the most hysterical & desperate people we will find around here starting with Ed Earthling lol

[@childofthelegumes8688]

i really like this guy. he seems genuinely interested in what Ed has to say.

[@_b-e-n_]

I agree. I just wish people like this who have realised the moral hypocrisy would have the guts to just say f*** it and actually make the change, rather than just saying, "I'll think about it"

[@occamsaturn]

@@_b-e-n_ we all do, but we gotta take what we can get

[@ginnywilliams8159]

Ben Hopkins agree!

[@ginnywilliams8159]

Yeah its really awesome

[@jonahlevi3178]

@@_b-e-n_ ego gets in the way even if they know its wrong 🙈

[@WackoMac]

What an open minded guy, very refreshing to listen to this chat.

[@someguy2135]

@Cezarr Sounds like you are not open minded. I like Carl Sagan's quote: "“It pays to keep an open mind, but not so open your brains fall out.”

[@someguy2135]

@Jarvo Tunes I notice that you are not disputing any of the facts presented by Earthling Ed. Can you do that? Convince me that it is bullshit.

[@jaysibiri]

@@someguy2135 not trying to get political but honestly that perfectly describes liberals

[@michaelbernardi1453]

Hey everyone, I'm actually the guy in this video - it was such a refreshing and amazing talk with Earthling Ed. I'm so happy right now that this video is up! Many comments have been asking about my progress- I have severely cut down on my meat consumption and I actually genuinely think with a bit more time, I could become vegetarian and then from that, become vegan. I really believe that the positive feedback from the comments in conjunction with the conversation with Ed has really opened my mind up to how much meat I'm consuming so thank you guys! Hey everyone, I just wanted to let you all know that for the past 2 months or so I've been completely vegetarian! I've even cut out dairy and am on my way to cutting out eggs. Also, I'm actually in the process of making a video about it all as well some other fitness stuff, I'll post a link here when it's up! It should be up early June - it would be great to hear your feedback too!

[@Rhonda2580]

Michael Bernardi Great discussion! You did great. Hope you are leaning toward being vegan. :)

[@dsouu9139]

@@Rhonda2580 You did great! :)

[@MrJustforkicks]

Michael, everyone watching this video would be interested if you are moving toward veganism after this conversation. Would you be comfortable sharing your thoughts here? There'll be a lot of people who would be happy to answer any questions you may have.

[@72martinus]

Would love to see a follow up of you and Ed

[@nicholashuth9220]

I heard you mention getting back into going to the gym near the end of the video. I have been plant based for several years and am a competitive bodybuilder and power lifter. Don’t listen to all the chumps that tell you you can’t get big/strong without meat. If you ever want any help with veganism and weight lifting please shoot me a message. Hope you’re well bro!

[@raven2997]

He seems like a very intelligent and kind person. Glad that he's willing to do independent research and take the first step. 💚

[@milamnwalker4801]

@Cezarr intelligence is the opposite of weak, my friend. Its actually VERY weak to be closeminded and think you know everything already. That doesn't allow growth at all. Standing up for yoyr beliefs has nothing to do with learning.

[@merrybright5732]

Cezarr standing up for ideas you’re passionate about is absolutely a form of strength so long as they’re well informed and are held with the hopes of making a positive impact in some form. But it is absolutely NOT weak or unintelligent to be willing to listen and think on opposing viewpoints, particularly those you’re willing to acknowledge aren’t fully examined and might not be what you want to stick with.

[@ShadowZZZ]

Wow, this guy is very kind and intelligent. he admits that being against animal cruelty while still eating meat is hypocritical. he also admits that the only thing holding him back from becoming vegan is lack of knowledge, which is very wise since even socrates said "it's wise to admit: you know, that you don't know" huge respect! discussions about veganism would be much easier and efficient if everyone was so open minded

[@rickknight3823]

It would also help if vegans admit they don't know everything as well... That's one of the key reasons why there's so much resistance out there. Despite all the vegan ideology and notions on morality, it's still far away from the best option for us and the world. I also don't believe it does "less" harm overall. In fact it's very hypocritical to think this way once you dig past the obvious arguments and go into the details. A very different picture is painted.

[@shayzakov1895]

@@rickknight3823 I'm a vegan, and I admit I don't know everything. Which details am I missing when I think a vegan lifestyle causes less harm?

[@rickknight3823]

@@shayzakov1895 1 - Veganism relies on Monocrops which take up huge swaths of land and destroys ecosystems. 2 - V food require toxic pesticides and herbicides to control disease as well as artificial fertilisers. This kills the soil and reduces it's fertility - worms /beneficial insects, biological systems. 3 - this toxic mix runs off into local water systems killing water born life / fish stocks and wildlife amongst other ecosystem residents. 4 - all of this is heavily oil dependant from the fuel used to prep the fields to making all the sprays and and fertilisers. This indirectly causes huge amounts of death and destruction linked to the oil industry. 5 - Veganisim inevitably will turn to Gmo seeds as is being pushed by Monsanto / Bayer.. lives of people all over the world are destroyed by these infertile seeds and the racketeering networks bankrupting small farmers. Gmo seeds are destroying natural plant fertility by playing god with nature - Gmo cross breeding and contaminating native stock. 6 - diverse wildlife cannot survive in monocrops land and will ultimately be poisoned or starved to death due to lack of insect life etc etc. 7 - Veganism has been a diet used in times of starvation when there was nothing else to eat. It's inadequate for healthy growth and development.. 8 - grass fed animals raised on cyclical grazing where herds are moved on in pack formation after short intensive grazing - mimicking the predator prey relationship found in nature. The land loves this - biodiversity is brought back and nature thrives. Very little oil used - no pollution - carbon is trampled into the ground and trapped. Vaccinations and drugs are not used - happy and healthy animals are produced completing a balanced and fully sustainable system.. There is more then enough land for this. Check out Greg Judys channel for more information. Peace

[@BonnieMan42]

@@rickknight3823 animal agriculture is dependent on mono crops to a greater degree, for animal feed. All the points you make in relation to this are valid but I suspect that this is more of an indictment against modern farming practices and intensive farming in general than it is a case for/ against veganism. One point I will agree with is the way veganism has become an ideology for some people, who will then defend any point without even considering counter arguments. Again though, this isn't a vegan issue, it's a human issue that can and is applied to many beliefs. Maybe it's dogma, not money, that is the root of all evil?

[@rickknight3823]

@@BonnieMan42 if you look at point 8 - I mention "grass fed" animals raised in a specific way mimicking nature etc etc. Greg Judy has a whole load of fascinating and pretty simple but effective tried and tested methods to raise healthy happy animals on far smaller plots of land then commercial owners who just release the cattle/ sheep etc onto vast swaths of land without intelligent management. Land is brought back and nature benefits enormously. Relied on very little resource input apart from moving stock at specified intervals for maximum land and animal benefit. There is no grain or agricultural input whatsoever. It's an entirely self sustainable system. Just need a relatively small amount of land for different herds. So yes it is a red flag against modern farming practices on both sides of the coin. I've also seen enough evidence to show a vegan diet is not a healthy long term diet for human consumption. One can survive but not thrive as we all want. Gmo Mono crops are the only way to feed a world full of vegans living in cities. It's the "love" of money that we have issues with as humans. Yes that can be a form of dogma, where we all want to choose a side rather then seek reason above emotional reaction. We've all been programmed to anthropomorphize animals to a large extent growing up and this creates a lot of hysteria we are seeing in the vegan community reg the consumption of meat. Tradition and culture are with us for a reason... It's old wisdom and ways that give society balance and connection to our surroundings and each other.

[@Enjoytheshow435]

He’s already a vegan "Philosophically". By far the most intellectually honest person Ed has interviewed.

[@bakugokatsuki586]

This guy is different, he’s not like most carnists who think they know everything. He was willing to listen to the other side without interrupting and he genuinely seemed Interested. Edit : when I say carnists I don’t mean carnivores , it’s someone who follows the ideology that an animals only purpose are to be eaten , worn, used and abused however they are happy to pet and treat animals such as dogs and cats with love. It is not a degrading term, it is a term to describe what you believe in, which is clearly demonstrated through ur actions. It is a fact. If you are showing racism towards someone , you are a racist. If you judge someone based on their sexual orientation , you are homophobic. If you do not like being called a carnist , then I suggest you change your ways for the better. Because if u do not change , then u are stuck with that title.

[@LouisGedo]

It's refreshing to see someone who isn't so desperate to make the same tired old ludicrous excuses for their violent behavior as many carnists do.

[@bakugokatsuki586]

Louis Gedo exactly 👏🌱

[@kuusakat1308]

Many people Ed interviews (especially the last one) are saying things they themselves disagree with because they're not necessarily trying to "educate" Ed on why eating meat is not immoral, they rather just use throwaway arguments to avoid admitting that they're wrong. This dude is different. Respect.

[@timschlank1]

I don't really go for that. We were all carnists that knew everything or else you are still in denial Grande Love

[@babychicks3244]

This guy was awesome. Genuinely thinking through the philosophy.

[@lilsaam]

I'm going vegan because of you Ed. I've been vegetarian for 5 years but never realized the hypocracy in it and how cruel the dairy industry is. Thank you.

[@Jafmanz]

you cannot comprehend how utterly wonderful the lives of my chickens are. The exchange of my love, nurture and care for thier eggs is something very special indeed. have you considered the notion of the ethical vegetarian?

[@willbournerv2259]

Jafman I’m sure they’re having a very decent life, not being sarcastic. But any kind of relationship that involves taking from or using an animal’s body for our benefit is fundamentally exploitative and unethical. It promotes the idea that we can use and exploit animals and as long as we do that we will continue to make money off their backs, which is wrong.

[@Jafmanz]

@@willbournerv2259 so you would not owna pet cat or dog then? or any kind of pet animal? what about a pet falcon to keep the crows of your crops? what about introducing laby birds to keep the green fly down?

[@Jafmanz]

@@tuomas2639 I have to say your opinion is not worth very muchon this matter then. take care now.

[@willbournerv2259]

Jafman personally no, I don’t have any pets and I don’t want any. But if I did how would that invalidate anything I said? Pet owners don’t take the excretions of their pet’s bodies, do they? Having a cat isn’t an exploitative relationship any more than having a child is

[@Giroud91218]

These are the most productive ones. He definitely is going to start eating more plant based even if he doesn't plan on going vegan

[@astonbrissett9747]

Eric The ex vegan community is rapidly growing. There are hundreds of people online describing how sick they got on the vegan diet. According to psychology today, 84% of vegans and vegetarians return to meat within one year of starting the diet. I wonder why... Plant foods have no Creatine, Taurine, Glutamine, absorbable B12, Vitamin A, K2, Vitamin D and so on. We are not ruminant animals; our stomachs are not made to digest plant food all day long. They are full of anti nutrients that limit the bio availability of the food we absorb. This is why vegans rely on synthetic fake meat, synthetic protein powder, and highly unregulated supplements. It’s exactly why you hear vegan gains sound so depressed and low in his videos; his diet is destroying his body and mental health. Why any of you would take advice from a guy who sounds this depressed is beyond comprehension. You will never feel satiated on a vegan diet; always hungry. Meat is the most nutrient dense food on the planet. All the amino acids you need to be strong and mentally stable...

[@occamsaturn]

@@astonbrissett9747 this is such a bizarre take, you can literally find sources for the same nutrients all over the place hence the animals, who eat plants, being dense with those nutrients but there are also all kinds of people who get sick from a meat-focused diet you can do any kind of diet wrong, that's not on the entirety of the vegan or omnivore diet you HAVE to know this is disingenuous

[@Giroud91218]

@@astonbrissett9747 The only legitimate case nutritionally you have is B12 deficiency. I drink fortified soy milk for that. Thats also where i get Vitamin D. The dairy industry has to forify their milk with Vitamin D because the majority of people are already deficient due to lack of sunlight. Veganism is an ideology not a diet. Everyone eats different food. A lot of people become vegan because it sounds healthy but they have no idea how to eat and don't get enough calories or protein because they are used to eating meat and they don't make the switch properly.

[@astonbrissett9747]

Briqt Wemmde we aren’t ruminant animals. We don’t have the same stomach as a cow. Cows have multiple stomachs that allow it to ferment the plant foods they eat. Humans don’t have that.... 🤦‍♂️ The ex vegan reddit community has 10,000 members; I wonder why? You haven’t refuted the missing vitamins and nutrients I stated. Keep drinking synthetic protein powder, fake chemical lab meat, and unregulated supplements. You really think those pills make you healthy? 😂

[@astonbrissett9747]

Eric Tate you still don’t have Creatine, taurine, glutamine, vitamin A, D3, DHA. You are literally eating anti nutrients all day. A vegan diet will make you depressed I promise you that. You don’t even know what is truly in those protein powders and pills that you take. Chemicals. Mono cropping for vegan food still kills animals bro. Think...

[@brandilionn]

This was so refreshing to see someone sit down and have an intelligent conversation! I felt happy after watching this!

[@johndala4766]

its not really an intelligent conversation when skeletor ED spreads propaganda

[@traymis]

This guy is too well-spoken and intelligent to continue being a meat-eater. Once he transitions to veganism, he'll be a great asset to the vegan movement. Unlike many of the people you've had discussions with, this gentleman seems genuinely open to your suggestions.

[@burnedflowers141]

Hes not that intelligent. His arguments are feeble and typical, just worded more articulate.

[@ginnywilliams8159]

Yup i agree!!

[@ExplosiveLemonz]

saying "too intelligent to beat a meat-eater" is far too patronising, don't do that

[@tompetty6681]

@@ExplosiveLemonz Don't put quotes around something if it isn't word for word what someone has said.

[@globaljobber]

Totally agree. My thoughts exactly.

[@danielbarber9423]

Very good discussion, I'm 67 I became vegan in 1982 , best dicision I've made , I thought then , why was I not told these truths at school, great work ed , keep going,

[@lotusbomb7594]

This wasn’t even a debate it was a conversation. Best video I’ve ever seen from a logical person.

[@gratefuldoge8598]

When he saw the subscribers on Eds page he realized Veganism isnt as small of a minority as he previously thought.

[@Smilehearttutoriales]

i don't know how Ed comes up with such good arguments in a little amount of time, it's amazing. One of the biggest reasons why im vegan today.

[@yannie0101]

Read his E Book! He explains succinctly how to respond to every argument against veganism...there isn't any!

[@amyasseektruth8246]

For the first time I actually sat back and tried to listen to a vegan... this guy did a brilliant job. Not confrontational - just a good chat filled with passion. The key points - animal abuse, oxymoron kill humanely - also, we use to eat plants and seeds... Well done, good video

[@werewitch9466]

what a nice guy, its rare to see meat eaters respecting vegans and actually being interested

[@MattLamPiano]

Nice to have someone who doesn't talk out of their butt for a change

[@iwnunn7999]

Guy's very gracious and polite. I like him.

[@Jason-hj7de]

feel like Ed wrote good essays at uni

[@JimmyJJJohnson]

If everyone was this open minded in conversations with people from a 'different group'. Wow the world would be different.

[@SHANEWHEATON]

People are too emotional and living in the ego.

[@richiedaly87]

It's necessary for a vegan to never accept my reasoning for eating animals, it's just 2 world perspectives that are different

[@Maayraa111]

Thank You Ed for speaking up for the cows, pigs, chickens, and other animals.from earth.❤️

[@Bianca-pw5cn]

He seems a really nice and open minded guy. Hope he does his research about the ethical, environment and health aspects of veganism 🌱

[@MichaelDavis-kf9lk]

There are zero health aspects or benefits to being vegan. 84% of Vegans return to eating meat because they become severely unwell. It’s a cult that has zero credibility.

[@Bianca-pw5cn]

Michael Davis wow 84% of vegans return to eating meat. Where did you get this data from, the Daily Mail? Before going vegan I actually was plant based for years. Some people think it’s the same but it’s not. Plant based is a diet, and vegan is a philosophy of reducing animal suffering and killing as much as possible and viable (that also involve eliminating animals from your plate). So I was eating plant based as I researched it’s a very healthy diet. Milk is extremely unhealthy with all of the female hormones in it (oestrogen), IGF-1 (which is a hormone that promotes growth, but in human adults can promote cancer growth instead), antibiotics (given to treat mastitis), all the cholesterol and saturated fat and faecal matter (bits of poo). Eggs have a very high amount of cholesterol. All meats have a lot of saturated fat, cholesterol and also antibiotics (given to treat infections and also to make some of the animals grow faster). Also processed meat like bacon or ham are classified by WHO as carcinogenic class 1 (the same class as cigarets are). PS.: Animal agriculture uses 70-80% of all antibiotics produced in the world. Look, I’m not saying meat dairy and eggs are all bad, they have lots of protein, they also have essential micronutrients, and they are tasty. But also are other foods. And lots all this other foods don’t have all of the nasty stuff that comes from animals. Cholesterol for example only comes from animals, and we produce all of the cholesterol we need, some people are less capable than others to get rid of the excess of cholesterol in the body, they end up getting their arteries clogged and that can result in heat attack and very often in death. Heart attack is the number one killer in the States, the UK and many other countries. Beans, on the other side, are full of protein, but have zero cholesterol, and lots of fibre. Fibre has the opposite effect cholesterol has in the arteries. Also more recently researchers are understanding how fibre is important for health, and modern and western civilisations aren’t eating enough fibre due to the amount of animal products (they have zero fibre) and heavily processed food people are eating. But I was eating plant based for health, not for ethics, so sometimes I’d have a bit of milk chocolate. Or a croissant. You know, this things only have a little milk in them. So if once or twice a month I had something that had a bit of milk or a bit of eggs I didn’t care. But now I do, and I’d never eat milk chocolate because I know that little milk in it came from a cow that was forcibly impregnated (had a human fist shoved in her annus) and after 9 months of pregnancy had her calf stolen from her. Cows are very maternal animals and they cry for days for their missing baby. That repeats for 5-6 years, until the farmer realises the cow is not producing enough milk to keep her alive for a next pregnancy, so he sends her to a slaughter house, even though that cow could have lived for another 15-20 years. When I found out about the ETHICAL side of why some people were vegan I went vegan. You might say that was easy, because I was pretty much there, and that’s true, but being more difficult doesn’t justify all the unnecessary things these animals go through. And it’s unnecessary because we don’t need their bodies and their secretions to survive and thrive. Veganism is not a stupid cult, it’s based on ethics and it’s funny that it also has a lot of science on our side, as a died without animals is not also good for human health, it’s also good for the planet. Fair to say veganism and health has nothing to do with one another directly. You can be a healthy vegan (as I chose to be), but you can also be an unhealthy vegan, and eat lots of vegan junk food. But that’s a personal choice. Eating animals, however, isn’t a personal choice, as this choice involves a victim. So yeah. Not a cult, and it does have credibility. Is just that some people are so biased and have an enormous ego, and can’t accept that what they’ve been doing their whole lives is highly immoral. If you watched this talk you’ll have realised this guy was humble and he wanted to learn, rather than judge.

[@17MrLeon]

Veganism is unhealthy. Thats the aspect of it.

[@Bianca-pw5cn]

Jiří Dušek I can tell you haven’t read a word of what I wrote 🙄 You’d rather be blissful ignorant.

[@ang3ela5]

@@Bianca-pw5cn you summed it up perfectly

[@stevenohenries5127]

He was asking some fantastic and very intelligent questions. I get future vegan vibes from this dude 👍🏻🌱

[@FamilyFreedom]

Nice dude, I liked him, very openminded 🙂

[@aboutagirl5085]

I like this guy, he wanted a conversation and he was prepared to change his views

[@frenchlearner19]

I'm impressed by this person's willingness to engage honestly -- really enjoyed the conversation! I hope he stumbles upon the Gamechangers documentary -- really dispels myths that you need animal products to make "gains."

[@mittromney5419]

The game changers was unfortunately riddled with plenty of bullshit too but sure, you don't need animal protein to build muscle obviously

[@dawidbaraskiewicz4582]

That documentary made me vegan

[@LL91g]

He will be an amazing vegan! Hopefully he can break the wheel and change. He is so polite and sweet

[@jess4709]

I’m just watching how I walked right past this into the art block behind these two without realising :(

[@_TerraRae_]

Aww. The guy being interviewed is awesome. He didn’t feel defensive at all, he came to the table with an open mind and open heart. Respect to him!

[@jacquelinejohnson2286]

Only recently found your channel, what an articulate calm man you are. Your passion still translates but in such a way that no one takes offence and takes the time to listen.

[@Pinkheartbwell]

Its refreshing in this video to see this nice guy who is open minded and open hearted during this conversation about animals (vs seeing alot of the opposite in the past). Earthling Ed is truly awsome!!!

[@wamurya6463]

You give him something nice to think about Ed!! And you are so nice kind stranger 🌱❤️

[@dianaangelova7692]

Great conversation! I really enjoyed your intelligent, honest and polite chat! Thank you! 💜

[@Beni10PT]

I wish I could speak like Ed

[@elise6509]

Loved this talk, such a nice guy

[@user-gd9eu4hh4p]

This person reminded me so much of myself before I became plant based. To hear that they also selected the vegan lunch option after the talk is great.

[@danniegodfrey3622]

The man in this video is so sweet. He's one of the nicest people I've seen Ed talk to in terms of just being open-minded, respectful and kind even though it's a different view than his own. He was just so lovely!

[@AlternativeReality]

You're definition of dominionship is my favorite thing that I have heard on KZbin today!

[@koolgurl402]

I think this makes for my top debates Ed has put up. I get stressed out when things get too heated.

[@blacknoisyblue]

He seems like a kind and smart young man, I think he will be thinking about this conversation and hopefully he'll go vegan 💚

[@MichaelDavis-kf9lk]

blacknoisyblue you’re hoping he’ll join a cult and become ill?

[@blacknoisyblue]

@@MichaelDavis-kf9lk You're obviously not very smart, but that's okay, there has to be a bit of everything on this Earth.

[@cathking]

Really nice guy. I wish all meat eaters I talked to were as rational, thoughtful and calm as him.

[@36ELRIC]

A real likeable person who actually seemed interested and listened to what you had to say

[@ginnywilliams8159]

We love you Ed! 🌱❤️

[@MC-eq7fl]

Ed: What does humane mean to you? Someone that eats animals: Natural death Me: Woooow this guy gets it!

[@lisa-sz8jj]

Right, that was the best answer I've ever heard 👌💚🌱🌍

[@lisa-sz8jj]

@Hashtag GetRekt humane means compassionate, kind. So you may _consider_ it to mean a quick murder, but that would be incorrect.

[@broccoliboiii7532]

@Hashtag GetRekt "A quick and painless death in order to obtain food is considered humane to most people. " So if someone shoots you in the head and then proceeds to eat your corpse for no reason other than pleasure, would you consider this murder? (The answer is yes, obviously.)

[@broccoliboiii7532]

@Hashtag GetRekt Try to be consistent with your own reasoning. I only took your own definition of "humane killing" and proved with an easily understandable analogy that it can still be murder. Instincts do not matter at all when it comes to logic, nonsenical argument.

[@leonajustine]

Hashtag GetRekt so killing another human is only wrong because it’s illegal?

[@malenawv]

I'm so used to get frustrated by this conversations, this guy is really refreshing. So aware of the situation and open minded. Lucky he got to talk to you :)

[@Letthembelightpeaceonelove]

Awwww I love this guy!! He was so open minded and intelligent. See, fellow vegans?? We don’t need to bash meat eaters just for not knowing enough.... we can have respectful discussions like this (as long as the person is open minded enough) and raise awareness about the things they may be uneducated about. The only problem is that his level of openness is very rare amongst people who are still stuck on a non-vegan diet... 😒

[@KleenerBro]

Ed I love you, man. Keep up the awesome work, we're all cheering for you!

[@anniewatkins6450]

These are my favorite discussion videos 💚 open minded people

[@AmyJ81]

I absolutely love watching your conversations. I think so many people could learn a lot about how to interact with others, on any topic, in a respectful way by watching your videos.

[@LouisGedo]

*Create a Better World by......GOING and Living VEGAN*

[@DamenSpikeGamesHQ]

Thats extreme. Our bodies are MEANT TO EAT MEAT. That's why MEANT is so similar to the word 'meat'. It only has 1 different letter. jokes, go vegan

[@bakugokatsuki586]

Jack Banana Dev hahaha u got me 😂😂 I was about to click the reply button and go off on ur ass haha

[@donaldanderson6578]

Word

[@DamenSpikeGamesHQ]

@@bakugokatsuki586 lmao

[@roku3216]

@aidsbrigade I agree! Here's the definition of meat from the Merriam-Webster dictionary: Definition of meat 1a: FOOD especially : solid food as distinguished from drink b: the edible part of something as distinguished from its covering (such as a husk or shell)

[@weaponjam7226]

I must say I really do most enjoy the discussions Ed has when they can both just really listen and consider each other’s points of view. When someone can be brave enough to risk thinking about concepts which don’t necessarily fit in with their own beliefs without having to defend them to the death, it is just so refreshing. Ed has talked with some very nice men and women.

[@Lifya]

I like this guy. Such a logical, calm, open conversation

[@jesterspectre36]

Way to go Ed. I think you've maybe planted a seed in a future vegan. I like how he was very inquisitive and genuinely asked questions with a hunger for your perspective.

[@GIJen14]

Great conversation!

[@zakhaddad5222]

Wish more people were like this guy 👍

[@megavegan5791]

Open-mindedness is a beautiful thing.

[@megavegan5791]

@ I would gladly welcome a discussion with the fellow in the video. But, if your argument is limited to "mmm, bacon" or the Bible, we have nothing to discuss.

[@megavegan5791]

Phil The Logician First time online?

@@megavegan5791 *Nope, my evaluations of many of the cancerous vegans that plague the intellectual discussion community stem from multiple years online, hence why I am able to confidently make these claims.*

[@megavegan5791]

Phil The Logician I can say the same, so don’t try to claim the moral or intellectual high ground.

[@exsneha]

This is one of the best videos I've seen in a while... This is the definition of open honest and keeping it real with zero judgements..

[@roku3216]

It's good to hear from an intelligent guy, what works for him in terms of advocacy, and that he thinks beyond the conversation.

[@mikajoel6122]

One of the best ones yet I think

[@Aitor-pt4dz]

Your mic is so big 😱

[@beazuzmcceasar22]

Big mic has a big mic

[@sophiaparisi7573]

No need for Big Mac when you have *B I G M I C*

[@AtheistEve]

Great conversation. I much prefer this calm, socratic style to the annoying troll and attack versions. He could watch “What the Health” and “the Game Changers”. Also Nutrition Facts channel.

[@tracerickard9860]

Ed you explain things so well, I wish I could do that, another great video, thanks again Ed :o)

[@BeldnerFilms]

Thanks Ed! Another amazing video I really appreciate all the work that you're doing. Thank you so much.

[@linkasurfs]

Always a pleasure Ed ;) your new friend's a right dude peace n love

[@helloimrita]

It is so refreshing seeing people ask questions, rather than jump to assumptions, or avoid discussions by calling people "snowflakes."

[@bjbegui]

I'm going to start looking into more vegan options...

[@PinupSarah]

Respect to this guy - he is actually willing to have these difficult discussions, put his ego aside and listen to another perspective

[@RaymondGroot]

Great conversation, on both ends.

[@jerricaboston564]

This video brings me such unspeakable joy

[@96unicorns]

He seemed like an intelligent nice guy. I wish him the best of luck :)

[@wakeupinwinter]

Wow, a stunningly open minded and thoughtful conservation from this guy. You can tell he really thought this through instead of the common knee-jerk comments/reactions. Really lovely to see.

[@danielaxc2900]

Compare this to the debate with the Brown student (you know which one) and this debate is a breathe of fresh air. I wish more omnis could justify their arguments in a similar manner.

[@17MrLeon]

Its natural and we did it since ever. There justified

[@tanvir699]

Amazing conversation, really liked the person's humble answers. I enjoyed the content really well, as a fellow vegan, I'm watching these videos for the support of whatever you're doing Ed and receiving these feedbacks and points you make has made me take the initiative towards reading your ebook again. To my astonishment, I shall read it in my bilingual languages and enforce these beliefs I have in french. I look forward to donating on that ebook, perhaps even subscribe a monthly donation in the near future. Thank you for your efforts, and I hope you prosper in other areas of your life.

[@charlottemoncur]

Love every video. As always 🙂 he was a really nice guy too

[@darrenmurray861]

What a thoroughly mature individual for his young shoulders. This young man will do well in life.

[@LoversRfighters]

It's interesting that in ancient India or Vedic times the bodies of cows that died were used as a food source for people who worked low level or dirty jobs such as crematory workers. The hide and other parts were put to use as well. These cows were not killed but died in a natural way. In recent years India has changed and you can find a lot of meat in different parts of the country and cows alongside other animals are slaughtered in large numbers.

[@broonage]

What a nice open minded person, hope you takes the plunge

[@Hypeman10]

If all vegans were like Ed, the vegan movement would make way more strides. Most comments in this video are fine, but looking at the comments in most of Ed’s videos is simply vegans calling others stupid, insane, idiotic etc. Stupid or not, you’re just creating enemies at the end of the day. Most vegans are simply misinformed, or have a moral disconnect to what meat eating does. The solution to that isn’t to belittle them.

[@sashaaganeriwal]

You are the best ed! Thank you for doing all you do

[@samisafatli3412]

What a beautiful and respectfull a conversation!

[@nettle8605]

He’s so open minded and polite! What a great lad!

[@VeganFTA]

Fantastic interview, I love how open-minded he was!

[@Cici-pw1or]

An actual polite and open minded person! Love to see it

[@NegativeAccelerate]

The guy has a good point about natural death. It would be amazing if we ate animals that naturally died. Pigs may go extinct if everyone was vegan. But what if we keep them in an animal sanctuary and ate them when they died naturally. Ed has an interesting point about it being a bit disrespectful. But honestly I wouldn’t mind if anyone ate me. In fact I wouldn’t mind if I was fed to animals. That way my atoms will be inside animals (conscious beings) rather than inside larvae and worms. I see no moral fault with eating meat that has died naturally. I don’t mind if it’s tougher too

[@Dynan117]

I want Eds brain. Impressive!

[@clouwds5739]

BenBenson iT’s “eD’s”

[@derfred527]

What a great discussion and nice, honest person :)

[@beccajayne8529]

I really liked this guy, very polite and open 👍

[@pinsandneedles3]

Smart guy. Great discussion!! 🌱

[@freezewun8902]

Curious about Ed's thoughts on hunting and where he stands on wild game meat instead of factory farmed meat. Meat tends to be broadly painted with the factory farming brush but not all meat is equal. I for one would most certainly prefer my body to be utilized and turned into nutrients once I die than burned and turned into ashes or embalmed and sealed in a box so bacteria can't return me to the earth but to each his own!

[@justroberto5052]

Freeze Wun veganism is about avoiding harm or abuse towards non human animals as far as possible. So if you are in a position where you don’t need to kill an animal for survival and have access to plant foods then it would be unnecessary to kill and therefor harmful/abusive.

[@freezewun8902]

@@justroberto5052 hmm are you aware that animals most definitely still die in order to sustain a vegan diet? Certainly not as many as a factory farmed meat inclusive diet but a meat based diet of primarily big game undisputedly results in significantly less death per calorie than any store bought vegan diet, not to mention an arrow or bullet through the lungs being a far more humane death than being ground up in a grain combine, hit by transport trucks or poisoned to protect crops.

[@justroberto5052]

Freeze Wun do you not eat plant foods at all? Also you got me thinking here, I’m perfectly aware of crop deaths. I know we could work towards more ethical plant farming to further minimise this. But yeh you really have me thinking!

[@freezewun8902]

@@justroberto5052 sure do! And in a successful year of hunting there's no doubt in my mind that's where the majority of the death in my diet comes from. There's also the factor that when it comes to predators such as bears, I may be taking one life to fill my freezer but multiple deer fawns, moose calves and bear cubs will make it past their first year because of that death so in my mind that's more akin to giving life than taking it. Some would say that would simply be natural predation and if it's going to happen then who are we to step in, I would say it's the same situation when I go up into the mountains with the intent of fulfilling my own roll as a member of a predator species though. Glad I got you thinking, I never do set out with the intention of converting or "owning" someone with my ideas but if I can provide a different perspective that unfortunately never seems to be acknowledged in any of these conversations I'm certainly pleased to do so!

[@justroberto5052]

Freeze Wun my only contest to the idea that you may be saving an animal from a worse death is that I could use the same justification in a human context but in reality it’s still robbing the individual of further experience or potential experiences.

[@Nilafila76]

I love when meat eaters say "I don't feel guilty when I eat meat".....because I look at their eyes and I see guilt and shame that they haven't acknowledged in a very long time. When they do, it's always a relief of the burden of constantly having to numb themselves of the pain that it really delivers!

[@Jafmanz]

is it the same look you might have in your eyes when you consider the animals on the sea floor that died for the oil in the plastics and fuel you use? or is it more tangible and less obscure?

[@Nilafila76]

@@Jafmanz yeah that's the same look bro! I cry for those being too!!!It's a mess, I can't exactly choose to not ever touch plastic though. It's literally everywhere, from the credit card I have, to the hydrogen peroxide bottle I use for a wound....but choosing what goes in my mouth as far as did this animal have to be directly killed? That's a much simpler choice to make my friend. Everytime you put an animals flesh into your mouth you are saying that your sense enjoyment is more important than an animals life. Think about that, peace!

[@Jafmanz]

@@Nilafila76 Plastic is a massive global sin. thankfully there are many projects hoping to tackle that with algae based or similar products. the sooner the better! quakers do not use plastic, there are no doubt some peoples perhaps very few that are plastic free, outer mongolia perhaps, remote places. I would not say you have no choice, but perhaps it would be a very hard choice. Much like the choice for many peoples who live on land that sustains no significant agriculture and to whom the notion of poisening the air with transport to get vegetables is abhorrent. Would you extend a similar notion for someone who only ate roadkill. I watch a channel of a man who only eats already dead animals. I guess what i mean to say is that for you and perhaps (I know you cannot speak for them properly) other vegans is the morality of meat purely or mainly based on the taking of life or is there something else at play (dietry arguments aside) thanks for your time.

[@Nilafila76]

@@Jafmanz I didn't mean to say that I couldn't go plastic free just that it would be an amazingly tough path to walk with my current involvement in modern life. The depths at which this poison has seeped into our lives is truly staggering. I do things to minimize my direct contact with it, but that's for another day:::As for the meat thing, for me personally, it's about the life of that creature. My health is a secondary consideration as I feel better and stronger on a plant diet.:::I wouldn't find a moral issue with the guy eating road kill, much the same as the guy in the video waiting until the cow dies. My problem is the unnecessary taking of an innocent creatures life, I don't care how small it is. If you live in an inhospitable place and there is no question of growing food, and there is some consideration of not polluting the environment with the fumes that it would take to bring vegetables to you, then if you kill an innocent creature to survive it is somewhat ok because you needed to live and survive and there was no fruits or vegetables provided by nature. But to me the fumes that it would take to bring that food is less of an evil than the killing of that innocent creature. The fumes even being an issue is still a debate and yet to be seen, but that innocent life can never be replaced.

[@Jafmanz]

@@Nilafila76 Thank you for sharing.

[@FriedKale]

We need more genuine, open-minded and reflective individuals in this world; loved seeing two of these such beings in a conversation!

[@paulaslife3781]

What a lovely man with an open mind☝️ also Ed is looking so well, love the hair. Also loved that peaceful music at the end, with that beautiful picture of Ed.

[@Equinox1.5]

Fantastic conversation on both sides. Thank you both so much :-)

[@bentaye]

For intelligent people, veganism is like gravity, all it takes is a little push.

[@boyswillbeboyz5589]

You like poems

[@denverdavids24]

I think if vegans spent as much energy on proposing some sort of sustainable balance with meat eaters they would make a bigger impact rather than trying to convert everyone overnight. It is not in our nature as humans to move from one extreme to another even if the science proves that meat eating is more detrimental we need to be more strategic in educating mankind. The approach people like Ed have will leave people more frustrated and hostile towards veganism albeit his intentions are good. The ideology of veganism is correct the approach of most vegans is just plain stupid and frustrating to deal with and leads to "majority" of meat eaters just ignoring them. This video demonstrates how we can meet halfway in times of a polarized world. Well done 👍!

[@vCoralSandsv]

Fantastic conversation!

[@samsephton5788]

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO ARGUE LIKE YOU!! I had a ‘discussion’ with my Biology today and I was making points and he was countering(devils advocate I feel) however I just couldn’t think of a good comeback! Respect Ed!

[@endeavourist5287]

What a beautiful conversation.