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The NRL 360 panel unpack the incredible post match war of words between Rabbitohs coach Wayne Bennett and Panthers coach Ivan Cleary
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[@imalwaysright]

Why is Ivan playing the victim? He started the drama and Wayne finished him off, If Panthers are breaking the rules, they should be penalised.

[@676Cuh]

He was Legit the one who told the refs about his son being hit late & for the refs to watch out for it then he comes out a day later & talks about coaches manipulating the refs 💀😂

[@RonieMcDonie]

Have you not seen the highlights of the souths blockers doing the EXACT same thing and not being told to not change lines???

[@justdoesntaddup8620]

@@RonieMcDonie They’re all doing it now, it’s a new part of the game, another step closer to grid iron.

[@RonieMcDonie]

@@justdoesntaddup8620 Agreed lol. Just sucks to see after Bennett having a whinge (while his team does the same thing), Penrith were called out on it in the first set of the game, whereas have you heard a ref say it to any other team? it's so damn inconsistent. We still deserved to lose though, we just couldn't adapt.

[@justdoesntaddup8620]

@@RonieMcDonie That’s it, the Rabbitohs played better, I reckon they’ll meet again in the GF. Games in the mind are always Bennies thing, splits their team up with uncertainties before the game even starts. He’s always got someone or two in hospital or injured or uncertain right up to the hour before kickoff. It’s all so the opposition is confused and not working out a rigid plan.

[@malakailoanakadavu7728]

I remember at first, when Wayne brought this up before the game. Everyone said “aww Wayne already having a sook before the game starts” Now everyone sees what he’s talking about and saying absolutely nothing lol

[@rootidarzhole5369]

Panthers, that’s why.

[@harrykelly8205]

Why don’t they mention one of the most important points Bennett’s point is correct he questioned something Penrith were doing and was right about it so it’s fair that the referees corrected it

[@tonysimon6312]

Kent is trying to defend Cleary by saying Bennett got to the referees? The blockers have been getting away with cheating all year. Cheating isn't allowed. Cleary''s pissed that the refs are giving his players notice before they get penalized? So the best halfback in the comp cant get a kick away without having 3 forwards obstructing? Ivans protecting his little boy, he looked like a sore loser.

[@jackohere1878]

Hell Panthers got a penalty for a very marginal "late" hit on golden boy Cleary yet Ivan's still moaning. These blockers need penalising then it will stop.

[@taiteswinton4419]

Really?? Since when was cheating not allowed? Unknown to me

[@alexm631]

Their all the same, every time a team loses it seems to have become custom for the coach to blame everything bar their own performance.

[@rootidarzhole5369]

@@taiteswinton4419 ask you’re boyfriend. He’ll tell you. Panthers fan sook. It’s one thing having your arze ruined. But we ain’t ruining our good game.

[@gregorybaillie2093]

ah he ain't the best half back in the game by any measure. DCE sets the standard and Cleary is a distant third or fourth.

[@nathanbrown4751]

If Buzz Rothfield is making more sense than you, you’re in big trouble. Kent talking absolute rubbish. How are you trying to put kick blocking being correctly policed as the reason they lost? Souths out played them simple.

[@jackohere1878]

Good point !!!

[@weburnitatbothends]

Kent has no idea, time to get some talent with credible experience on Fox League

[@weburnitatbothends]

While I am at it Hoops can bugger off as well

[@nathanbrown4751]

@@weburnitatbothends show has totally lost it’s mojo. Yvonne Sampson does a good job apart from letting those 3 just go off on rants for 75% of the time! Sometimes feel like I’m listening to three drunks in a pub arguing over who’s turn it is to shout.

[@jackohere1878]

@@weburnitatbothends In reflection the "360" show is badly missing the League intellect of Ben Iken. Yvonne is a good presenter and nice person etc but she lacks real League nous plus unlike Iken she has no control or intelligent imput at all over the journos with their hidden agendas etc whose League expertise is certainly no better(likely worse) than the average fan. The show has lost substance basically becoming a soap opera.

[@bencarney2745]

It's funny watching Kenty lose his composure

[@owenglover8268]

isnt that just how he talks?

[@nahzewilliams5912]

@@owenglover8268 exactly,its like he cant control his emotions most times,,,gotta start shouting away lol

[@stevensmith8876]

Cleary, great coach. Bennett, Master coach.

[@BrodyFromThePub]

gg

[@imalwaysright]

I usually ignore Real Housewives of NRL drama but this was epic 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sonnQ]

Parramatta have never had a better chance than this weekend to beat Penrith. They are rattled hard and Bennett showed them how to beat them.

[@mrdbooks7285]

Dreaming.

[@slip-yp6hg]

We'll beat Panthers if we play like we did against the Storm.

[@blakewebb4050]

Penrith will win, just not the premiership. The storm will. I cant see Penrith beating the storm after last week. They needed the week of to have any chance at all. Melbourne are just far too stacked. And as for parramatta they are Notorious at choking. I wouldn’t bet my house on them. (I hope that ages well 😂)

[@jacksnrlstuff5238]

@@blakewebb4050 same

[@BluntedRazor98]

@Two Olive Trees Congregation in regular season mate...not finals lol. Storm dominate Eels in finals footy

[@PGT99]

Was Ivan complaining last time he played souths when Penrith won the penalty count 11-2? Or were the referees good then?

[@jacksonloram7887]

He's an absolute joke. Nathan Cleary is the most protected player in the NRL. Wayne had every right to contact the refs for clarification.

[@thvtsydneylyf3th077]

most of clearys brains are in his chin

[@aussiefarmer4955]

Anyone who whinges about penalty count has never strung a boot for footy.

[@dennisrotumah9405]

Why anyone listens to these people. Speaking crap is there a nyone

[@archiekilmor]

Bennett was spot on with what he said.

[@jacobmurphy423]

no he wasn't the end

[@StanslaMichael]

Every coach has the right to question the ref and what their interpretation of the rules are. How is that in anyway influencing the ref, if the ref has already his own interpretation of the rule? The fact that he asked a player from the start does not mean he has been influenced, it means he's aware of what they are doing. Which is what every coach is doing pushing the rules to the absolute limit. Cleary playing the victim because now every ref is aware of how far they are pushing the rules, and more importantly which rule. Which begs the question, just how much it played in them making the Playoffs? Ivans mad that those plays are now under the spotlight.

[@imalwaysright]

It’s not manipulation. Ivan couldn’t deal with the loss or maybe tried to influence the refs for next week lol.

[@johnkanai4106]

Yep, If it means the rules are being enforced consistently, then it is better for the game and fairness abounds for all teams..... Sutton has a habit of failing to correct himself in the rules he is obligated to enforce... If he misses something, and then puts his own performance under the microscope, which Refs do when they go over the game at a later time, he does not correct himself. It's like a player who drops the ball, has poor ball security, gives away a penalty or all of the above, every game... And doesn't correct himself! My one bone with Sutton is, He allows one team to lay on the tackled player longer than the other... And makes the other team get off quicker!!!!!!

[@StanslaMichael]

Exactly the plays that he had his players pushing the boundaries of the rules are now in the spotlight, which means every other team and ref knows what to look for. Hence my question, just how much did that come into them being in the position they are on the ladder of the comp.

[@gerardroll6468]

Ivan’s clearly fighting out of his weight division trying to topple Bennett with mind games. Ivan needs to accept the fact that his team lost & to move on, rather than dwell on petty issues that can be sorted out at some other time.

[@jimmybill1963]

So we naming him Ivan clearly from now on then eh .. nice

[@zacsmith2026]

Or maybe Bennett could just teach his backs how to catch instead of complaining

[@kieran3904]

He just got wayned

[@finlaypaynter]

Hahaha yeah

[@jamesbryant1098]

Fucking oath he did. Wayne's World baby

[@tonymarsh8436]

For heavens sake. Arguing that if the ref warns a player not to break the rules, when he just did, as happened on the first tackle. And some Dhead on the panel claims it put Penrith off. Truly stupid.

[@travismiller1491]

Lmao if anyone noticed, the entire time Yvonne spoke at first, baldy was eye fucking Kenty hahahahahahahaha OMG

[@alldaydevo]

Hooper the only one of the 4 that isnt a flog

[@joshmoxey9952]

Jesus Christ Ivan is a sook. He wouldn't have carried on about this if he wasn't a coach with a finals record of 7 wins from 16 matches...

[@Jokesterz]

Facts

[@atapanameleisea3268]

Panthers coach is scared and complaining about things which everyone always complains about ruling of the refs. Bennett is more experience in the game then majority of many people in the game. Hes coached more teams, been in finals more then Cleary and his team has. He understands how the game management is evolving. For Cleary to be rattled like that just shows where their minds were at. Bennett maybe quiet but his experience comes when its needed....

[@PK-bh2sr]

Ivan’s only making noise because he got caught out with his tactics

[@BrodyFromThePub]

aged well

[@bisonnn]

Manipulating a referee to abide by the rules 🤣😂🤣😂

[@justdoesntaddup8620]

Lol , Ivan says “coaches trying to influence and manipulate refs adjudication and ruling of the game”! Haha, Benny says “I never said a word publicly, but I spoke with the refs 3 weeks ago about it”.

[@676Cuh]

Ivan asked the refs to watch out for late contact on his son & during the game , they get a penalty for a soft challenge on Cleary after he kicks the ball yet he comes out AFTER they lose & claims that coaches shouldn’t be able to manipulate refs when he did EXACTLY the same thing 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@difdaf436]

I swear every week the brief is “ right Kenty, you gotta disagree with everything Buzz and hoops say period..” makes for great entertainment, old Kenty fires up delux on everything haha!!

[@i-3307]

You can just tell Bennie wants a bunnies premiership like no other.

[@jamiemusgrave8359]

Kent is just talking Dribble!!!! Bennett 1 Cleary 0 First kick of the game, Penrith still tried the illegal tactics then got called out, good refereeing !

[@rootidarzhole5369]

Panthers are cheats.

[@johnkanai4106]

A regular thing you hear in this particular panel's regular discussion is, " but Kenty, you can't have it both ways..." He agrees and disagrees so much and then ends it with conjecture all the time to prove his point! Another one is, "oh yeah they all do it... But what I'm saying is..." Is there such a thing as A half glass full, half glass empty kind of person? Sounds like someone who is always trying to make a losing point a winning one, and a winning point a losing one! Sheesh.......

[@danb1553]

It's not manipulation if what the other team is doing is illegal.

[@stephenpencheff3151]

Kenty always raises his voice when another panelists has a comment he is a tool don't like it when someone has a point to put across end of the day winners are grinners and loosers are boozers up the mighty Cardinal and Myrtle

[@smiledon77]

Go the bunnies this year like 2014 Wayne Bennett my hero

[@noturbo]

You beat Bennett on the field not off of it, Ivan will learn its part of being a good coach.

[@young7670]

Wdym Bennet beat Ivan on the field to💀🤣🤣

[@johnrambo6265]

Roosters blockers as well

[@edwardgarde924]

This doesnt matter,Ivan's got the last laugh lol

[@chiddiru6114]

Panthers coach upset they can't break rules to get an advantage??? Kent trying to defend people that are wanting to break rules, typical flog.

[@RugbyLeagueHistory]

I think Ivan Cleary is becoming the new Brian Smith. He can get you to the finals or grand final but cannot deliver the ultimate prize.

[@barrycouda8481]

Bennetts a very, very smart coach, ....and he picked the right time to expose Cleary's dodgy blocking tactics ................lmfao !!

[@urdaddy1567]

Ivan got schooled by one of the best in the game

[@jacobmurphy423]

other way

[@morgs_k1027]

Isn’t it simple, Penrith just need to follow the rules.

[@RichardFleming-wu2tz]

It's simple the Panthers were cought out, Ivan new about this and did not change tactics, so it is on him

[@TeoGrehan]

I feel like Kenty is trying too hard. Just in general. Probably feels like he has to carry them.

[@jesserogers3869]

Nah he just doesn't like to be wrong and 90% he is

[@music9170]

Just went to watch the round 23 game to see if I could see what he was talking about, very first play there is 2 players offside and one of them instantly changes his line and tries to shoulder barge the marker off cleary. Pretty easy to see why he wanted it questioned. Went back to watch a bit more and the very next 5th tackle kick from cleary the guy blocking for him runs infront of the marker for a good meter or 2 to stop him. It's strange that Ivan thinks there was something wrong with wayne pointing out blatant shepparding to the refs, guess he's mad someone's put an end to this tactic he's been using all year to keep markers off Nathan he's lucky he wasn't pulled up sooner

[@peterboyd7304]

yeah, running markers.been happening all season.all teams.

[@music9170]

@@peterboyd7304 was the same with the roosters game, that field goal kick should have been called a penalty to GC. They were in front of the dummy half and directly effected the defenders ability to get to the play. If they are going to set up blocks if you look at the same game with the bunnies panthers round 23, the bunnies 2nd or 3rd kick they set up a block but he is in an onside position. The part he trys to move his line a bit needs to be looked at i guess but that is a legal block play. the defender has a chance to run past him.

[@chrisoppedisano3010]

Who won the grand final again? Ah yeah ok..

[@mickhofman]

Ivan played this perfectly, he has created a Panthers v The World & Media for his team, Panthers are now galvanised & will come out with it all to prove, masterclass in 4D Chess..

[@travismiller1491]

4d chess ay. Storms going to flog the poster panthers again. Have your tissues ready. Panthers against the world lmao first time you didn't get the penalty count on your side against a top side and you can't score more then two tries? Lmaaooooooooooooo

[@tonysimon6312]

Perfect plan? teaching his player that when they lose, blame the ref? What was made clear is without cheating, they cant win. Your masterclass is over this weekend and there is no such thing as 4D chess, you just repeat other idiots that say stupid things. WTF is 4D chess

[@brentondean2094]

Rules are rules, panthers trying to stretch the rules and have now being pulled back into line,end of story

[@kw5732]

I'd like to see the roosters v titans result overturned. Too late? Another game RUINED by referees. So much technology yet they still F*ck it up? If you had money on the game could you take the NRL to court?? 🤔

[@nicholasmichalfaul946]

It's so weird how they all discuss this without mentioning that it shouldn't be allowed in the first place, by any team. They justify it cause every team does it, but it should rightly be stamped out because it borders on foul play. In this instance, Bennett is actually helping the integrity of the sport, not just his team.

[@mrlee9213]

Wayne bennet is THE LEGEND not to mess with. How tf this young buck Ivan Cleary forgot that somehow?

[@N3xus_6]

And what a fine student Cleary turned out to be, A+ student takes the title in consecutive finals because, lets be honest, the Melbourne game was the predicted final everyone expected albeit pre grand final. Well done Penrith.

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

i still predict it in 2022. theyre two of the best teams right now, and bunnies without bennett and reynolds, well....

[@leighwilliams8857]

The old master still GOT IT WAYNE BENNETT 🤣😎👍👏

[@Steve-gm2jl]

Interesting edit @foxleague. We can clearly see where your allegiances sit.

[@Darrylc73]

Leota will be back and will help them go forward this week but penny will not reach the heights of last year, lack off go forward.

[@joshhb.5983]

Both passionate Both in the grand final. May Rabbitohs win.

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

they did not

[@bluespig1]

There was no disrespect. This is media hype.

[@marco3499]

The refs called out a dead set foul. What is the argy bargy on about ??? Shut up, and move on... Go parra :)

[@pabloalarroyo]

WTF is Kent going on about, of course it's had an effect, the right effect because it stopped illegal blocking of the kick chasers, or is he arguing that one team should be allowed to play outside the rules?

[@RhysJonesredrooster]

Facts Ivan Cleary no runs on the board ......bennett i forgot how many premierships he has won

[@haydnlovie3855]

Basically it comes down to the rules of the game And the way the panthers blockers are following the defense is illegal. There shouldn't be a discussion about anything other than that

[@SJ-vg7wu]

That’s why he’s a master coach 😂

[@grogmonster4977]

and who won the premiership that year?

[@shanehodges6980]

teams have been "blocking" runs towards there kicker for years

[@timhayes3336]

The media influences referees more these days then coaches ever could. The people at this table have done more damage then all coaches put together.

[@deanriley5690]

Kent putting in his resume as a spectator with a pen and no idea again.

[@mvrk3250]

Paul kent can turn anything into a argument hahahah

[@govindjai11]

Ivan is trying to protect his untouchable baby that no player should come near Nathan while he is kicking. Mind you with his connection with the referees he has managed panthers favours very well. Just do an analysis, how many 6 again Panthers have gained as opposed to any other NRL team. Panthers have been receiving special protection from the referees.

[@peace7902]

In general in sports young teams get support and attention as they represent the future of the game. In NRL the situation is different all what the young panthers got is jealousy and hatred. Last year the retiring super grub was more experienced, this year they couldn't beat the rusty dusty master. Next year they can't compete with the Queenslander Broncos spirit. The funny thing always Sutton is involved. NRL is a dead game no wonder AFL is taking over.

[@joeormsby2351]

Those kick blockers are real should be penalty if they are in front of the kicker and make contact with the opposition

[@bradblackwell2913]

So isn't the problem the ref getting swayed not the coach swaying the ref ?

[@timotyfinlayson9963]

Imagine how much better Thurston's career would have been if he had all those players blocking for him 😂

[@Juicepluggedin]

This is why Wayne is the 🐐 of coaching cleary was having nightmares about him before and after lol

[@timwolstenholme2635]

It’s funny cause Bennett kind of invented shadowing kickers and catchers

[@timotyfinlayson9963]

I have been pissed of at the blocking the kicker for every team in every game this year.

[@MrMrRonnie]

And now?

[@sallymay24]

The amount of coughing in the background ffs go home if your sick

[@johnrambo6265]

Omg ... How dare he cough .. we all going to die

[@you4dgrmi4dafam62]

Just cause his your son dont mess with Wayne his the godfather of coaching 🤨

[@delailama736]

Isn't the issue that the Panthers players change their line to block defenders?

[@Rip_in_son]

Wayne talks with conviction I hear a lot oh uhming and ahhing when Cleary talks Wayne schooled him

[@floodwaters8887]

Wayne Bennett is a master coach, waited until the biggest game of the year against them to leak there cheating ways.. Panthers have been getting away with the blockers changing line for 2 years now, about time the refs wake up and crack down on the cheats.

[@Legalpigeon]

Kent is insufferable. Saying coaches shouldn't have the ability to ask the refs about their interpretations....what??? Of course it shouldn't be publicised... for the integrity of the game. Also Kent upset that Penrith have been told not to block? They shouldn't even need to be told about it. Kents position is always so predictable it's so boring.

[@flamingfrancis]

Ever since the great Jack Gibson went over and spent time with GB HOF Coach Vince Lombardi in the 80's the game of RL has only gone down one path.Bloody shameful.

[@kennethlalo411]

Bennett taking Cleary to school. ✊🏼😆 Apperently Cleary used to work with the refs and most likely has mates there still 🤯😷

[@hombrealfisti3997]

Maaate..... Ivan CLEARY plays CHECKERS and Uncle WAYNE plays CHESS! 😂😂😂 Ivan CLEARY is BUTT HURT CAUSE UNCLE WAYNE took him behind the SHEDS and FIXED EM 👆........ 😂😂😂😂

[@brettg2309]

Kickers have to take more responsibility and just get deeper when kicking so the defence can't get to them

[@michaellivesey4354]

Can't remember....who did Kent not play for again

[@bobveness3031]

Kenny should just be honest and admit he does not like Bennett.

[@ConScortis]

Notice how many times Kent opens his speeches by saying "the fact is..." when he's expressing his opinion, not a fact. Not surprising really, as Kent thinks he's never wrong, but I'd say he's right maybe only 10% of the time. But that's my opinion, not a fact.

[@michaeln537]

Kent is right 95% of the time. He is one of the few people in the media that actually knows his footy. He’s the main reason why I watch the show.

[@Buggerlugs1424]

Can't believe I actually agree with Paul Kent.

[@ronanrogers4127]

I can’t believe it either. How could you possibly agree with that bunch of claptrap?

[@Buggerlugs1424]

@@ronanrogers4127 being honest because I go for Penirth. I also do agree though that Ivan while yeah should have done it a different way did make a good point about the influence coaches have over refs.

[@ye4us]

That old dude is 473 years old i think.

[@Scooty_Scooty]

Parra to knock Penrith out and then try go 3 from. 3 this year against the Storms

[@mrdbooks7285]

Dreaming.

[@ripme6616]

Storm in a teacup the referees need feedback anyway

[@bradblackwell2913]

Come on parra

[@saintly8286]

Yep I’m a eagles 🦅 supporter and this week will be the only time I want parra to win ✌🏼

[@dretzghost1597]

Paul Kent turn it up!!

[@ZacHart91]

First time watching a fox show that isn't matty johns after finding Bloke in a Bar in so long. Probably done for another year or two 😑😑.

[@finlaypaynter]

Up the bunnies even tho I go for cowboys but my mom goes for bunnies soooo

[@ballchinian911]

Ohh so your missus goes for the bunnies

[@finlaypaynter]

@@ballchinian911 my mom does

[@ballchinian911]

Your souffs fans so I just assumed she was also your missus

[@gregorybaillie2093]

I can't help thinking Kenty is on something.

[@haydykat]

Ivan’s coaching geniality has Wayne stumped 🤯

[@cameronsmallwood6171]

Kenty the refs are meant to keep the game played by the rules he didn't ask for an illegal thing he asked for the rules of the game to be played by the players... You can not obstruct a player like that simple..

[@calosbabos]

Kent is the very definition of a migraine, can Fox drop him already

[@11calman]

Bennet is an old Fox, brilliant at coaching, Cleary is OK but not up to Wayne Bennets standard just yet

[@6t7ghost]

Paul Kent is a deadset sped. His got that many head injuries he just mumbles and gets no where

[@a-moe4932]

Clearly ya dog 1 nil woof woof 🤣

[@cvarikos]

Funny listening to some of these guys picking apart body language, try coaching a local park team let alone at this level. It takes plenty of stones to do what he did and take on the best ever coach in rugby league. The other element he's taking on is the journalists cos generally they're gonna side with the majority ie. the winner. Ivan is making a valid point, I'm sure all the clubs do something similiar to protect their kickers. Wayne with his 'well he started it' .. isn't exactly the master of mind games and this dopey argument you need to go 2nd and if Ivan goes 3rd .. what happens then. Clearly has alot at stake and so does Wayne but he's learnt how to disguise it.

[@newman653]

Kenty is a goose.