CIVIC Type R FK8 vs. SUPRA SZ / Touge Showdown 2 Liter Turbo Class, Battle 3 / Hot-Version 2020

[ENTRY CAR]
SEEKER CIVIC TYPE R FK8
Revolution GR SUPRA SZ
[DRIVER]
DK Keiichi Tsuchiya
MAX Manabu Orido
NOB Nobuteru Taniguchi
[STAGE]
GUNMA CYCLE SPORT CENTER (GUNSAI)

[@broccolirob5026]

They been doing this for 30 years and still have the best car enthusiast show on the planet 🌏 Love you guys 🤘

[@CharlieLiuPhotography]

Seriously, I grew up with this as a kid and now I finally can afford these cool cars. lol

[@justinchou2033]

They focus on performance rather than interior or other non-enthusiast interests. Not saying those things aren't important but it's secondary to a petrol head.

[@swift9417]

The Hot Version Intro never gets old 🔥

[@styre]

Bobbing my head and singing along every single time

[@ryanyu102]

Same

[@apIthletIcc]

I was just about to say, I hope it never changes its just perfect lol

[@IchiBeemo]

I actually listened to the official song and it’s weird not having the sound of revving engines and screeching tires in the background. 😂

[@sou4708]

FK8ユーザーです。 率直に嬉しいです🎵やっぱり応援してしまいます。 SEEKERのコンセプトが好きで、SEEKERさんのマフラー貯金中です。 でも、エボリューションさんも好きなチューニングショップです。 どちらも素晴らしいチューナーだと思ってるので今後も注目したいです。 しかしいつ見ても土屋さんや谷口さんのドライビング(今回は無かったけど織戸さんも)は本当にすごい！ 見てる人に興奮させる魅力があります！ 今後も応援してます🎵

[@Rm-rv2jx]

Tsuchiya's driving is so insane. He put a lot of effort and different techniques just to win every race.

[@anhiirr]

its like watching an artist paint the same masterpiece endlessly with different mediums and methods while attempting to create the same end result and its much more entertaining to watch than the "painting"

[@justinchou2033]

He's willing to take the biggest risk out of the other drivers. Plus I think he adapts to these production/tuner vehicles the quickest. The other drivers seem hesitant to push the car past a comfortable limit.

[@ChristosGR777]

The Type R is a brilliant car. Please Japan don't stop building sports cars 🇯🇵🚀

[@madebyp90]

FK8 is a UK car

[@lawrenceinsley4114]

Yeah and America built the new NSX which is why it’s rubbish.

[@ChristosGR777]

@@madebyp90 No it's not. It was assembled in the UK which doesn't make it a British car.

[@DriverJ-N]

@@lawrenceinsley4114 it isn’t rubbish and neither is the civic

[@anhiirr]

@@lawrenceinsley4114 its not rubbish bc its american its rubbish bc its largely dependent on awd torque vectoring. Something that a MR mcclaren can seemingly replicate in corner with only rear wheel drive. As the level of lines it can take its almost as if it wasnt solely rear driven. Theres a large and fine line to draw from a mcclaren 570 what it took to get it to perform like that and the nsx...plus you have to think about the vapid/affluent/ and typically ignorant ...somehow...."general public" that can afford these kinds of cars....and their actual aptitude for driving

[@rayzaking2tv562]

This is why FK 8 is my dream car. It's FWD 4 door with sporty looking and great handling. So you literally can have family and have fun car at the same time.

[@0okcin605]

same

[@chinkoy999]

exactly! Both circuit ready and daily driver. Perfect balance!

[@addy660]

Just so glad to see the guys at seeker are doing well and still making fast civics!! Still remember the time when I first saw their eg on the touge and that thing was lethal!! Looking forward to seeing them do more touge runs and hopefully become the MAOU!!

[@kaipan-S660]

SEEKERさんにお世話になってる私も、プロドライバーからのお褒めのコメント嬉しいですよ。 これからも真面目な車作り期待していますね😁

[@Antmattroman]

im very impressed with the seeker civic. i think everyone there thought the battle was going to the supra, even i did. excellent job from both parties.

[@joescivic]

I'd say, if it was the 3.0L inline 6 Supra with the same mods this 2.0L 4 cylinder Supra has, it may take the win. As much as I love my FK8, I'm going to side with what I said. Lol.

[@30hours51]

@@joescivicthe 3.0L is $20k more expensive

[@mingomix1]

great video to start on Friday, excellent seeker's honda, and Mr. Aoki incredible the weight reduction he does in his cars, how incredible the 86 and I'm sure this Supra will achieve the same or more. Hot Version just keeps getting better. Thanks for the English subtitles. Thank you Mr. Taniguchi, Mr. Orido, Mr. Tsuchiya

[@scoc253]

*_SEEKER_** is always a force to recon with everytime they battle with their civic from eg6 to this fk8. very well set-up and thought-out. i remember their eg6 becoming Maou ff lightweight division if my memory serves me right.*

[@mo____mo1795]

S字コーナーの返しの段差がしなやかだね　シビック　見ててもフロントが入ってるのにリアも安定して曲がってるね　このコンディションで凄いね

[@sfstadion]

FK7乗りとしてはFK8がFR相手にこれだけ善戦してくれて嬉しい！というかブースト2キロ近く掛かってると思うんですが現代の車はすごいなぁ

[@shunya7055]

軽量化とかしたらさらに凄そうですよね

[@漢は黙って三連単]

サイドブレーキに関してはみんな同じこと言うな、スイッチよりレバーがいいなぁ

[@JustYohannes]

🔥 I could tell the seeker civic type r would win from the beginning, you can tell the Chasis tire selection and over all tunning of the suspension was all n sync. The supra was twitchy and power comes on to sudden for stability out of corners. Snap over steer is what killed it. Maybe a little less power and delay of response. The supra to me has never really been a touge car, even the 2nd gens. Great stuff

[@pokihaya]

I think wet surface hindered the supra quite a bit.

[@hendrahendra]

I agree, that civic looks really well damped from the outside. That supra has too much engine/boost response (the only time that its bad?) under wet conditions. It just breaks the tires loose everytime he touches the throttle, maybe mapping the boost control to be more progressive/linear would be better suited under these conditions.

[@hksp]

he said the setup not for wet condition

[@idokwatcher2062]

He put some hybrid turbo in there and it's laggy as hell with that 379bhp he squeezed out of it. That 2L has no torque before boost, the it all kicks in like a mule.

[@sfisosg7904]

@@pokihaya but at the same time the civic was also at a disadvantage due to wet weather which front wheel drive are known to be worse off

[@timmay6713]

Hot dayum the Supra has similar acceleration with fk8 but it killed it in the corners. That’s some innovative stuff right there. Well done honda

[@ty30t]

土屋さん65歳、織戸さん53歳、谷口さん50歳💦やべぇな

[@よっちゃん-h8l]

そんなに歳とってるように思えません！びっくりです…

[@ほしうめ-b5n]

え、もうそんな歳でしたか、、この人たち元気すぎるなー

[@champCats]

The only intro that I never skip on KZbin.

[@souyamamura5467]

土屋さんやノブさんの運転ももちろん凄いですが Seekerの担当者さんの真摯なコメントがすごく分かりやすくてありがたい...w

[@peterpenhk]

looking at this beautiful supra, I can't help but believe this is the closest thing we can get to an FD, aesthetically speaking

[@Tainoosushidesuyo_]

FK8、ノーマルタービンでもブースト1.9キロぐらいかけられるの凄いな

[@suzuka-s8l]

土屋さん本当にまだまだ現役じゃないですか笑 濡れた路面でこんなに踏んでベタ付けして、凄すぎる笑

[@invincible.456]

The FK8 literally dominated especially in the second run

[@ryunekoyashiki]

love to see how Seeker FK8 goes against other honda tuner such as Spoon or J's Racing in this touge...all of em using the same FK8 model ^^

[@forosta]

Хонда как всегда на высоте, легко разобралась с этой БМВ

[@ishikawa_fillarts]

ゴールのカメラワークが凄い好き

[@まさまさ-l3g]

赤のFKかっこよすぎ 自分は最近の車の中で1番好きだなー

[@brandondan1]

Thank you for the subs! Love the FK8 content1

[@davidmrz6454]

Los mejores videos de autos, saludos de México.

[@野田敏彦-k4p]

ウェットだとFF有利って一般的に言われてますがスープラの脚回りが硬すぎてその通りになったって感じですねー

[@AngelFloyd27]

Amazing work with the Seeker FK8, you can tell that car is well prepared, mild handling, good precision and fast response, excellent car. The Supra's setup was extremely radical for this layout, specially on wet conditions. Bad approach from the tuner, a bit too circuit-spec. Thank you very much for the subtitles Best Motoring. Fantastic job as always, you are the best.

[@power_of_r6033]

I'll be back when eng subs are added but...the Supra seems to be struggling through the turns with earlier braking even tho its lighter then the FK8

[@0maKe_2116]

Come back

[@hibikicoffee5259]

ドライだったらまた違うんだろうけど、こりゃシビックすげーな

[@wandercrx9352]

seekerはかっこいいね！eg６の時からのファンなんだけど車も良いけどこのエンジニアの人のストイックなクルマへの向き合い方も凄く職人気質を感じて好き！

[@mikemikeyee]

So good to see hot version still doing great work with their new episodes

[@murkle1994]

I love this. I could watch these battles every day.

[@bigalalbig]

Thanks for the Eng subs.

[@redgk2047]

20years ago this match up would have crazy.the civic has come so far and the bmw supra hasn't fallen from the top.

[@theraiden9631]

Guess collaboration with BMW has quiet fruitful for them.

[@sfisosg7904]

I mean if this was back in the day the supra wouldve most likely lost its got power but weights alot verse the civic and cornering machines

[@vtecturbo8817]

待ってましたーー！

[@KirbytrainE233]

街乗りしているぶんには電子式パーキングめちゃくちゃラクなんですけどね、楽しさはやっぱりレバー式…なのかなぁ…笑

[@suzutaka394]

16:30あたりのシビックの立ち上がりエグい。何でウエットのFFのタイトターンという三重苦に対して、あのアクセル開度で滑らないのか……。

[@前駆横滑]

デフのセッティング次第かと思われます。長いことオープンで乗ってましたがLSDにした時は何で先にやらなかったんだろ？と思いました😓因みにAE111でTRDの1.5組替え2wayでした😅

[@paulg3870]

What an amazing channel, thanks so much for the translations! 🙏

[@damianflorea8988]

you guys are just AMAZING!! Big love, keep it up!

[@哲高橋]

シビック素晴らしい、見事。ドライバーもそのリアのいつ来るか分からない所を補正して走ってるなと、重たいのに FFだってパッと思い当たる物以上にベースもすごくいい車なんだろなー スープラは今回は煮詰まってなかった部分が残念だけど、伸び代は半端なくある筈と。谷口さんも車とリンクできなかったと言いながらあのペースは凄い

[@マンボ真琴]

基本性能が違うんやろね z4のフレーム使ってるような偽物とかホンマは比較の対象にならん

[@観光スポット-m3b]

@@マンボ真琴 トヨタレクサス車は他社と勝負させたらダメだなw恥かくだけw そして信者がワーワー言ってきて終わりw

[@user-ii1md5py5f]

@@観光スポット-m3b こんなアンチの方が滑稽で恥ずかしいよ 共同開発で文句言ってるバカたちが自動車業界を面白く無くす 普通にポテンシャルはスープラの方が上だよ

[@哲高橋]

@@user-ii1md5py5f 自分的にも、スープラの脚やデフ、電子制御的な部分が峠に上手いことマッチング取れたら、正直FFのシビックに利はねーだろなと思ってます。それ故にシビック良く走ったなぁとは思いました。共同開発に関しても賛否両論ありつつ、兎も角も世の中に外車の強固なフレームを持った新たなFR車が出たなって思えば　色んな意味ではプラスなんだと思ってますね。フロントストラット周りの処理とか、日本車だけ見てたらなかなか見られない補強具合だったり　おもしれーなと思いますよね

[@RudolfRelease]

FK8 excellent driving experience! Nicely done!!

[@manaMana-ef5ir]

seekerの寺岡さん、見た目が随分変わったな

[@alenk6861]

wow at 295/35/18, I am currently using 265/35/18

[@gotodokugotodomujuafunrun3356]

Video ni menyebabkan Rakyat Malaysia yang Anti Honda Geram Melihatnya... dua2 teboo.. dua-dua 2 liter.. beza tarik depan dan tarik belakang.. tuning itu yg memantapkannyaa.. Tahniah pada yang Menang .. P E A C E > > >

[@armingilani4809]

Please do make a match up between a tuned 2021 accord 2.0t touring and tuned 2021 Toyota Camry TRD. Or even the accord 2.0t vs the type R itself. I would love to see that keep up the good work.

[@anhiirr]

ah yes were we the viewer learn yet again there is no best car but simply that theres always a car better suited for the situation...and not a second was wasted. I mean at some point watching these over the years you wind up less interested in the results and more interested on the road conditions/tune and realize the entertainment is how each driver is different and equally applies their own adaptation and adjustments to make better time. I mean thats really the gold in these vids countless gold like a bottomless vault in this channel

[@racer668]

The front tires fitted on those FK8s are wider than the rears of a C6 Corvette. I guess the front suspension was engineered for it to work.

[@sfisosg7904]

400hp yeah it defo needs it

[@TheKiefmike]

Amazed at how well the Civic did in the wet with all that power.

[@chinkoy999]

FK8's suspension and cornering is insane

[@75yomu]

Bruh look at the width of those front tires, ofc the traction will be good.

[@atsushifujii787b]

FFなのにスゴい

[@りんりん-p3c9l]

軽量化ゼロでタイプRあんなに走るんだ...

[@観光スポット-m3b]

自社だけでスポーツカーを作ってきたメーカーと、他社に頼ってスポーツカーを作ってきたメーカーの差でしたね

[@josephto4324]

These battles are exactly what we wan to watch !!! 真Arigato !!!! Thank you the crews, video is excellent, you got a very good team to shoot these videos... always follow. You guys know what you are doing.

[@exiattt]

15:12 Orido, who does business of Supra parts and modifications, didn’t go well right there😂 A big slap from the civic

[@YSekiai]

SEEKER FK8の完成度に驚きました！オンボードの映像でもギャップで上下動が無くスムーズなので、速く見えないのに速い！トラクションが抜けないから立ち上がりも速いし、常に接地感もあるから安心だと思う。🏁 SUPRAも良いけど、峠なのにサスをガチガチに固めちゃったのが大失敗でしたね。

[@lautaroak47]

Thanks to Gran Turismo 2 and Initial D, today i love this cars and Japan

[@integrais7707]

このままのセットでもドライ路面だったらどうなるか微妙な気がするけど、FRには辛い条件だったかな？ 使えないパワーは無いのと同じ、むしろ邪魔というやつか。 なんにしてもシビックが勝ったのは個人的に大拍手です。

[@4917gwp]

@@bullandbear521 雪道やＷＲＣを考えてみればわかると思うけど低μ路ではＦＦ有利。 ドライならスープラの方が早い。

[@VictorPitstop]

Excellent battle!! I am loving this 2.0 battle!!

[@tsi-ig7ly]

新型ZとスープラRZの3Lターボ対決みたい

[@細胞具ドリー]

凄く楽しみ

[@ヤッホーケンキチ]

それはいい企画やと思います！

[@観光スポット-m3b]

間違いなくZが圧勝で終わりそう しっかしこの動画に出てる他のトヨタとレクサス車もほぼボロ負けなのが草

[@4917gwp]

@@観光スポット-m3b Ｚは１００kg重いし全体的にスペックが低いのでスープラの圧勝です。

[@人鳥-q3f]

@@4917gwp カタログスペックだけみてると得意不得意はあれどもバチバチというかどっこいというか

[@OPT4716]

シーカー昔はネタキャラというか微妙評価だったのに、 立派になってんだな。貫禄もでてるもんな。笑

[@あかさたなあかさたな-p8z]

レボリューションさん毎回えげつない軽量化してて別の車になってる

[@ralphire77]

Not surprising to me anyone that follows cars know Civics has always been a beast lol especially on the track

[@FreshYoungDude]

Love these videos so much. Watching hot version since 1998. Thank you for English translation.

[@Mistadontplay89]

Type R smashed that BMW. Good stuff👍🏾

[@メタモン-h6c]

FK8友達も乗ってて横乗りしててめっちゃ楽しいけど、こう見るとまじですごいな、カスタムもあるんだろうけどなぁ、 俺もサイドあったらもっともっと楽しいんだろうなって思ってた笑笑

[@andrewmahoney4249]

the red and black combo looks so good from factory. but with that win git deserves to be yellow with pikachu accenting

[@donaldlin586]

Like snowy days the RWD becomes disadvantage on wet...

[@jeizero]

I'm surprised no one spoke about how it was raining, i'd prefer seeing this battle in the dry as the rain favours the ff vs fr.

[@PeakPerformanceReviews]

FK8 FTW! with some weight savings it’ll be even faster! Love mine ❤️🙌

[@WaldBlueberry]

このシビック速いですね

[@lmp1411]

やっぱり赤いHondaロゴの車は全部速いなｗスープラもポテンシャルはクソ高そう

[@miranopapa1]

シビック最高～♪😎

[@VWayyyyyyyy]

A battle that I didn't know would happen! 😫😫 Wholetime the new Seeker Civic has almost 400hp on that new chassis. Aww boy!

[@coordsportgmbh5728]

Touge Battle Start! DK-Impression? Max-Impression? Nob-Impression? GO!! 🔰💖

[@zea-5851]

うわー、スープラとシビックは確かに非常にエキサイティングです！

[@marull9442]

yeeeees

[@oresamaomaesama7585]

こんだけサイドブレーキサイドブレーキ言ってたら マイナーチェンジでサイド付いたりしてw

[@MrMachineoperator]

Thank you so much for the upload 💖

[@paul1978g]

Dori-Dori and his bemoaning of the lack of handbrake in the FK8R always makes me laugh, I hope some day Seeker will make a retrofit manual handbrake just so Dori-Dori can finally be at peace with the car.

[@MElekiaZ]

Thanks for eng sub dudes. Love from Spa🇪🇦❤

[@Alberto-zt8es]

Ojalá algún día este en español

[@hiraiwan911]

2Lクラスだと車両もそれほど大きくもないし、 扱いやすさ、エンジンチューニングのしやすさとかも あって昔からホットだよね～ まあ、昔にくらべて大きくなったかなｗ

[@irfaan7868]

Someone should release a handbrake lever conversion kit for the FK8!

[@Pharaoh_The_Great]

I really hope they do… it would be a major game changer.

[@なぐみん]

この路面でなぜ滑らない。。。 すごいな

[@H0LDENSUX]

The bloke responsible for the setup of the red Civic looks like a grown up version of that EG6 Civic driver from Initial D.

[@narmstrongracing]

Every time I see a new episode. I’m home. 🏁

[@DelinquentDJ]

20k/30k springs on the Supra?? jfc, I bet their bones were hurting driving

[@spikespiegel2246]

Thank you for subtitles!

[@MegaEliteGamingFTW]

Clever that dori dori turns on his headlights to throw off the driver. Smart move

[@213PURPLEYAM]

Wow even me a type r owner thinks the Supra got the advantage on this wet condition is a big surprise with seekers build fk8 what a driving skills tsuchiya have good win for the civic ❤️❤️❤️

[@smog-097]

Great video, enjoyed this one.

[@yalolol]

wowwwwww. i was definitely not expecting that outcome at all. fucking awesome!

[@electrikoptik]

Thank you for english subtitle!

[@ramair3]

このスープラ売りに出てたな

[@matthewgarza9828]

それは別の素晴らしいバトルガイの👏でした

[@typerfk8]

I wish I could have Seeker tune my car! I am curious on what dampers they are running, their alignment settings and it is fascinating that they use a 295 tire in the front. 295 is the biggest tire I have heard anyone run on a Type R and it clearly works! The Seeker looks so much more willing to rotate than my FK8., I have 275 tires all around and slightly modified suspension.

[@sfisosg7904]

I think having 275 and 255 on read will help with rotation or it might be your camber and toe settings so the is not gripping to allow proper rotation

[@hMint]

誕生日おめでとう Orido-san 🎂!

[@z40328]

何だろう、久しぶりに面白かった。👍

[@t.s.kchannel9102]

最近の2リッターターボはポテンシャルが高いですよね。 にしてもミューの低い路面でシビックFK8のスタビリティの高さはとてつもないです‼️ 路面状況の悪いロケでの各ドライバーのテクニックは見てて勉強になります☝️ 真似はできないけど（笑）

[@ムン-s5n]

F20ｋ　R30k　1700～1800ｋｇ級車両の高速サーキット仕様みたいなレート・・・ そりゃハネるだろ～って気はする。