Best Martial Arts for Self-Defense Ranked - Wrestling

3 Martial Arts Experts, Natan Levy (UFC), Icy Mike and Jeff Chan ranks Wrestling for self-defence.
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[@draniknikdra]

Wrestling strength sure helps!

[@williamm4366]

Hello i work in private security with high profile clients often in luxury resorts, if you have to chose one martial art to defend yourself you better chose one who include the use of weapons because you know, we're not cavemen anymore and your wrestling isn't gonna cut it against a knife but your throat will quickly have a metallic taste.

[@draniknikdra]

@@williamm4366 that is not the point of this vid, but I would rather swing a knife or defend my gun with wrestling.

[@quickscopez573]

@@williamm4366you know what’s more scary than a guy with a knife? A wrestler with a knife

[@diegomendez949]

Fr u have to be strong 💪🏼 what’s the point if u not strong enough to handle opponents

[@ruslanshavkatov466]

​@@williamm4366you say that like martial artists haven't beaten guys with knives or guns. Not every altercation needs to end in death

[@Sapperbounded]

The best martial art for self defense? Track.

[@BoxingTrainingJourney]

Yeah, "track" your target with your ranged taser or hand held lead cannon

[@mec1]

Running fast?!

[@ArnasLeo]

I think so :)) can't argue.. if you can run away there's no fight in the first place

[@williamm4366]

Hello i work in private security with high profile clients often in luxury resorts, if you have to chose one martial art to defend yourself you better chose one who include the use of weapons because you know, we're not cavemen anymore and your wrestling isn't gonna cut it against a knife but your throat will quickly have a metallic taste.

[@HerculesLoyd]

@@williamm4366nobody believes you lmao, but you are right that gun or knife invalidate most if not all hand to hand combat.

[@MrPizzapie12]

As a wrestler I think we get over estimated a lot. We are great in 1 on 1 match ups of people the same size as us. In self defense, those variables are not in our control. Jeff chan said it best, having wrestling for self defense makes you better IF you already have the fundementals to strike.

[@MarcosAG90]

I think the key here is what Jeff Chang said. "Assuming the wrestler has some boxing fundamentals". I don't think you can throw striking out the window

[@cloudmaster182]

You can't throw it out the window 100% but I can say, even a wrestler w ZERO striking is just waiting for a limb to grab, whether it's an arm, or a leg, or just eating a few strikes to get in grabbing range As a striker, u still have to know how to deal w them. It's not as simple as "oh ill just outbox him"

[@MarcosAG90]

@@cloudmaster182 it's unlikely that someone will last even a few hits in an street altercation. Even boxers who think they can just block a punch are on for a surprise. I believe you are trying to make the point that wrestling is incredibly effective/dangerous to which I agree, but it has a place and a time

[@cloudmaster182]

@MarcosAG90 I've been in a streetfight and literally used this strategy to get in and take the guy down, before I had any striking training I ate like 5 shots, had some cuts and a bruise under.my right eye, but I took him down and got on top and landed a few times myself before it got broken up. You overestimate how good people are at punching and underestimate how strong a human skull is. Pretty much every high school in America has a wrestling program and trained wrestlers are way more common than trained boxers

[@togrul3954]

​@@cloudmaster182plus wrestlers have a Thick thick necks which helps a lot in absorbing punches

[@Music-xb3ny]

The punches you ate turned your brain to mush ​@@cloudmaster182

[@cowqurbanivideos5010]

Nothing beats badminton

[@MustbeTheBassest]

Pickleball crushes badminton

[@gustavosousa8254]

Wrestling is important for both grapplers and strikers because if your a striker you don’t wanna go on the ground where as if your a grappler you want to take people down.

[@ArnasLeo]

I guess best is combination of both

[@gustavosousa8254]

@@ArnasLeo absolutely

[@rainynight02]

What's the difference between grappling and wrestling?!? I've been trying to figure this out for hours now. But best I've gotten is "they're essentially the same thing. But slightly different." None of my searching is bringing up anything! Could you help me out? I'm a complete novice here.

[@jonnybro7676]

​@@rainynight02 The wrestling part is when someone goes for a "takedown" which would be a Double leg or Single leg once on the ground it's heavy top pressure woth goal to pin both shoulders on the mat and to keep yours off. So wrestlers are good at getting back up. BJJ gives the ability to fight off your back so BJJ guys tend lay on their back BJJ is the "submission" or chokes such as the Rear naked choke and joint locks such as armsbars and knee bars Wresting gives you the ability to take the fight to the ground, and BJJ helps you finish it there

[@user-go2xi7zq5q]

@@rainynight02Wrestling is part of grappling but usually classified as its own thing. Grappling is a catch all term for Wrestling, Judo, BJJ, Catch etc, but ppl mostly use it to describe BJJ players

[@franberrios4456]

I agree as well. I used to practice Judo and one time we had a sparring training with some dudes of wrestling. It was one of the most challenging and satisfied trainings I ever had, wrestlers have a great development to adapt on many circumstances what's make them very good opponents

[@Carootttiiiigt]

Oh yes, used to do Judo and a little bit of jiujitsu for a year or two with my dad who hasn’t done jiujitsu for that long, (about a year, give or take. He’s also done judo for a couple of years but i’ve mostly done BJJ with him and mostly trained judo in a club.) i’ve just turned 17, whenever i ”spar” with this guy, who is two years younger than me and has done wrestling for a year, i get absolutely obliterated. It’s fun and i definetly can learn ALOT from him. Also he has an athletic background since he was a kid, and i was always the fat kid so he has alot more strength than me but i’m physically way bigger than him. A very humbling experience to get destroyed by a guy two years younger whos 40 pounds lighter than me. But god do i love the humbling aspect because that is what many people, especially my age lack and i dont want to be one of those.

[@youngOG87]

That’s why sambo is so excellent. Combines both judo and wrestling

[@orlandogivens4779]

It sounds like you simply had not been trained properly... And yes I'm a seasoned combat instructor and the realities of combat seems to be removed from the realities of realistic combat... No dis intended!!!

[@orlandogivens4779]

You have to be DIVERSE in what ever SYSTEM you have chosen to participate in so that your systematically able to comprehend the opposition in the face of any reality Combat situations... If your only training for sport you are wasting your time because the reality is your not going to truly learn anything enough to be truly effective except against others who are like yourself...

[@chris-jy4im]

Facts ​@@youngOG87

[@mythx123]

Content like this is exactly why this is one of my favorite channels. I hope your surgery goes well, and I look forward to your videos.

[@ArnasLeo]

Couldn't agree more!

[@Mafz]

The thing with wrestling is it’s incredible if you’re bigger and stronger, it’s great if you’re the same size, it starts to not work out so well if they’re bigger and or in better shape than you. That’s just what I’ve noticed after training with quite a few wrestlers over the years.

[@altaydogahan342]

It doesn't work differently for anything else mate. Technique is an advantage just like size is.

[@Specialistkay]

This isn't true. Slide bys and arm drags work great on people who have a size advantage on you. Especially if you're faster than them.

[@EPATZ]

I disagree. When it comes to hold downs and pins, size is definitely more of a factor, but I have an easier time taking down big guys in my gym because I'm so much faster than them. Just stay away from double legs and high crotches or anything else that can get sprawled on. Duck unders are super hard to beat when your opponent is a lot faster than you.

[@williamm4366]

Hello i work in private security with high profile clients often in luxury resorts, if you have to chose one martial art to defend yourself you better chose one who include the use of weapons because you know, we're not cavemen anymore and your wrestling isn't gonna cut it against a knife but your throat will quickly have a metallic taste.

[@mrmoth26]

Wrong

[@zentzu4003]

most people just don’t have experience wrestling with another human, we just don’t do it enough, ask your average person when they last wrestled most are gonna say never… or when they was a kid

[@EPATZ]

Can't remember who said it but there's a quote along the lines of "the best martial art to know in a padded room is jiu jitsu, the best martial art to know on concrete is wrestling" I've been doing jiu jitsu for just over 4 years, I submit wrestlers in our gym 90% of the time, but I lose at least 90% of takedown battles. All the jiu jitsu in the world can't take away from the pain and damage a decent takedown into concrete can do.

[@ArnasLeo]

So true

[@williamm4366]

Hello i work in private security with high profile clients often in luxury resorts, if you have to chose one martial art to defend yourself you better chose one who include the use of weapons because you know, we're not cavemen anymore and your wrestling isn't gonna cut it against a knife but your throat will quickly have a metallic taste.

[@EPATZ]

@@williamm4366 cool man, I think in this case we're assuming hand to hand self defense. I carry a firearm on a regular basis. I've never been in a street fight and I never plan on being in a street fight, but if it ever happens and the other dude pulls a knife, I'm gonna pull a gun. This is assuming I can't exit or deescalate, of course. I train Muay Thai and jiu jitsu, but I don't train because of self defense, I train because it's fun. All that said, without knives or guns involved, I still think wrestling is a clear winner on a hard surface.

[@BWater-yq3jx]

Which is why nearly all martial arts, even ones with little grappling and no groundfighting, have throws, sweeps, and takedowns.

[@JesusIsGodInTheFlesh3]

​@@BWater-yq3jxNo they don't 🤔😂

[@leeabrahams9889]

Street fights I would have thought boxing. Ending it quick whilst still on the feet. Wouldn't like to be on the floor with their buddies around.

[@animatronix5676]

a boxing base is important for self defense, but wrestling is more important. if you hit a person in the face with your bare hands the risk of breaking your hand is high, if the attacker is much taller than you you won't even be able to hit him in the face, furthermore not all people feel "pain" or are knocked out when they get hit in the face. managing distance is a relative thing because if you are a boxer and you find yourself with an attacker in an elevator or a narrow corridor where you can't throw your punches at maximum power, what do you do? there are too many variables in personal defense, boxing alone cannot solve everything, you must also have a solid if not excellent wrestling base.

[@gitarooman2995]

​@@animatronix5676wrestling just gets u head stomped 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@animatronix5676]

@@gitarooman2995 wrestling Is not bjj 😉

[@joaquinmenendez3899]

@@gitarooman2995dawg thats bjj. a wrestler can take u down and stay standing. ur the one whos gonna get his head stomped LMAO.

[@piyushraj8109]

Boxing is more convinenet

[@rodgerhempfing2921]

Catch wrestling is real tough.

[@orlandogivens4779]

Its called "Catch"wrestling for a REASON... You'll figure it out, or "NOT"...

[@JPost55465]

Bjj black belt here.. and I agree 1000 percent.. nothing quite like a high level collegiate wrestler

[@tommyakesson8858]

As a middling martial artist I would rather fight a pretty crappy boxer than a rather crappy wrestler. I think the wrestler has a way higher chance to be physicly superior and to deny me any way to win. A decent practioner of ANY martial art that has actuall sparring would probably just wreck me tho, unless my own crappy grappling miracolously saves me 😅

[@nericohen-muaythai8875]

I think people highly underestimate muay thai for self defense not just because of the striking. If you ever clinch with a thai. They can manhandle you just like a wrestler

[@williamm4366]

Hello i work in private security with high profile clients often in luxury resorts, if you have to chose one martial art to defend yourself you better chose one who include the use of weapons because you know, we're not cavemen anymore and your wrestling isn't gonna cut it against a knife but your throat will quickly have a metallic taste.

[@wreckyface7620]

​@@williamm4366in theory yes, but in practice no martial art will teach you how to dedend yourself effectively from a weapon. All that krav maga bullsht will be completely useless from the complete lack of sparring in their curriculum. Much better to resort to something actually useful that will at least have you coveres in hand to hand, such as MMA, BJJ, wrestling...

[@tommyakesson8858]

@@williamm4366 well sure. But 1. Not everyone has a weapon 2. I train for fun and health primarily Self defence is a secondary benifit. I am after all more likely to die from heart failure than knife violence.

[@podamaire7645]

​@@nericohen-muaythai8875 muay thai people got those leg kicks too.

[@TheDOS]

As they hint, it’s likely mostly acting as a filter. Meaning, it’s not perhaps the best to bring out the best out of a random individual, but it may be only let the best persist and they will be skilled.

[@BWater-yq3jx]

That's a good point, kind of a 'correlation does not equal causation' deal. Only the strongest & toughest survive years of wrestling, and anyone like that will be hard to deal with regardless of fighting skill.

[@Jack-xd1bd]

Perhaps, but many novice wrestlers (ok high school wrestlers) are still pretty tough. It's the toughness of the training that helps most defeat many mental barriers.

[@BigBirdMMA]

yeah and a lot of people neglect the takedown defense you get it from it like it if you’re getting jumped and someone tries to get you down on the ground you can stay off it

[@BigBirdMMA]

“you don’t want to be on the ground in a fight” goes both ways i don’t wanna be slammed against the pavement by some dude while his friends stomp me

[@BigBirdMMA]

judo however has a pretty good case too tho

[@williamm4366]

Hello i work in private security with high profile clients often in luxury resorts, if you have to chose one martial art to defend yourself you better chose one who include the use of weapons because you know, we're not cavemen anymore and your wrestling isn't gonna cut it against a knife but your throat will quickly have a metallic taste.

[@iballz22]

​@@williamm4366my thought exactly. ya wrestling buddy finna get stabbed. Judo is what you want. I want my enemy on the ground and me standing over him. Period

[@gitarooman2995]

If youre getting jumped you are most likely just gonna get jumped

[@jamesrocha9473]

Every art that exists has its strengths and flaws, im bias towards wrestling as a wrestler myself, but since transitioning to MMA ive gotten up to my blue belt in BJJ, and i train a lot of muay thai and boxing, but i still almost always fall back to my grappeling

[@thisfool89]

First guy who said "you cant submit" is wrong. Many wrestling techniques are just an inch away from being a submission or they are a submission with then intent of getting a pin. For example in wrestling a head and arm choke is used to get a pin, just dont let go of it and the guy goes to sleep, a saturday night special is not only humiliating but will also put you in massive pain. Old school neck crank hurts like a mother fer.

[@altaydogahan342]

No. Submissions from real submission arts are much more technical. Some pin holds happen to be a choke but that doesn't mean the mechanics to finish a fight is taught. In fact freestyle was created by removing the submission element of Catch Wrestling mentioned in the video. Watch early UFC and you'll see no wrestlers would be able to finish a fight without GnP and sometimes RnC. Hence wrestlers without BJJ were considered boring for ages for their inability to finish a fight and going to a boring decision more than not.

[@thisfool89]

@altaydogahan342 Yeah, nothing you said discredits anything i said. Good job writing all of that for no reason.

[@ashtoncomer935]

@@thisfool89as someone who wrestles in BJJ and know way better wrestlers than myself doing BJJ they get caught in chokes all the time cause your neck and arms are out and some positions in wrestling are considered really weak when it comes to your opponent not punished for being on their back especially when hunting for any joint they can grab and rip don’t get mad about it be an open martial artist cause the wrestlers in Jiu Jitsu do better than your average Jiu Jitsu guy cause they can use that knowledge snd apply it to BJJ and it’s very affective but not affective at choking and especially defending your back being taken

[@maxb8749]

Congrats on having ur head so far up ur ass. Ur just flat out wrong lmfao. If u try to submit ur opponent in wrestling u will literally get disqualified 😂

[@thisfool89]

@ashtoncomer935 The guy in the video said wrestling dosent or cant do submission. I said he is wrong and that wresting does have submission they are just not used for the purpose of getting a submission vitory, they are used to force a person into a pin. Like seriously, what does anything you said have to do with that?

[@tmoss1900]

Which end fights faster in the streets? Jab, cross or take someone down to the concrete. Which one keeps situational awareness better and an ability to retreat. Not that catch wrestling Bjj isn't necessary as a preparedness to get back to your feet. The toll Bjj has taken on my body, the weight I have to gain to maintain competitiveness with larger training partners also. Bjj and catch wrestling develop great tendon strength, but to continually train, it takes a great toll on your body. Next time you're at class, watch older participants get up off the ground, and you will see what I'm talking about. I'm still a burpees fan, and if you're not training like this, cardio is very different. Bottom line practicality long term.

[@user-dt8wq6fk6j]

I think jiu jitsu , wrestling, and kickboxing are the best when combined. Wrestlers make good jiujitsu players and striking with not only your hands but with your legs are key. Even better than kick boxing is Muaythai . Bo nickel is a wrestler and he dominated jiujitsu his first time just off of wrestling which is amazing. I’m more of a fan of jiu jitsu but I like to roll with college wrestlers because I learn a lot from them when it comes to pressure and it brings the dog out of me every roll .

[@Phantomcomander]

It has a great many uses that make it a very good supplementary style to add to increase your chance to land more when mixed with a style that does striking

[@ArnasLeo]

It's great base for martial arts journey

[@Phantomcomander]

@ArnasLeo definitely I agree, it is very good for teaching discipline, hard work, grit, mental toughness, good balance, good take downs, solid submissions, and my favorite efficient hand fighting which I like to use to open up better opportunities for my striking

[@lilautistico1635]

So many Olympic wrestlers have sucked in the ufc because they don’t know how to engage control afterwards. Kickboxing is meta rn. But wrestling combined with judo and some jiu jitsu have made some unstoppable goats.

[@dirtygeazer9266]

We still got Dagestan champs wrestling is still number 1

[@hypnoticskull6342]

I'd probably rank it as an A-. In regular freestyle and Greco, you don't have actual submissions, which is what Ken Shamrock experienced in UFC 2, and why he lost. Wrestling+boxing+submissions=great fighter

[@Mr4noone1]

For self defense is Combat Sambo. Its basically wrestling, Jui jitsu and kickboxing combined. Thats all U need for self defense.

[@Izzy267NZ]

In MMA , it's safe to say it's not s tier , becauae of time and rounds , in reality the guy on bottom is working way harder than the top guy is to get back or to a better position

[@The31st]

Imo I think Judo might be more practical for self defence than wrestling. 1) It teaches you to strip grips from clothing. Which is so important for defending yourself and it's very difficult. If someone grabs your wrist or a collar tie you can get that off with ease, but if they grab your clothes they suddenly have a very powerful grasp of you that you can't remove if you don't have the reps. 2) Avoiding the ground. Wrestlers instinct is to go down and control. But irl that can be dangerous. Multiple attackers obviously but you never know what the ground is like, might be covered in broken glass or even used needles in some places. Judo teaches you how to throw ppl hard to the ground which staying standing. 3) Groundwork. While not ideal you might end up on the ground and judo does at least teach some ground game. Wrestling you get into top and ground and pound but a quick snap or strangle is sometimes better. 4) I live in Europe. Unless I'm in Dagestan people probably aren't gonna double leg me. So knowing wrestling defense isn't as important. BUT adding a sprawl into your arsenal isn't as hard as learning at the judo stuff. Anyway that's my thoughts on it.

[@ishigoku]

Wrestling is THE martial art Simple to the point and extremly pushing n grinding You come out of it very strong

[@robertfromhell]

All that gos out the window in a street fight with no rule the only rule would be to survive biting eye gouging nut shots all fair game so it would ultimately come down to who will is stronger who’s willing to take more and give more

[@smashboom]

Basically any martial that is specialized in self defense and defense against weapons are the best (such as Krav Maga, Pencak Silat or Japanese JiuJitsu)

[@georgieman1910]

The best UNARMED martial art perhaps. Fixed that for you.

[@Golden_Frieza0912]

Im happy im a wrestler 🙏

[@orlandogivens4779]

Well you will not go far in anything in the street's enough to defend yourself on the street, unless you have only one opposition and even then it is not going to be easy... They are called street fighters for a "REASON"... So don't assume the street fighters can't fight and that they don't practice how to be successful in the realities of a confrontation...

[@yourbigheadcousin5434]

What're we talking about? If it's a random street fight wrestling is great bec once a man picks you up and slams you on your back you don't want anymore. You realize you messed with the wrong person

[@m5a1stuart83]

But Khabib says that Judo is high level.

[@andrewtate8595]

He was talking about in sports in Olympics, very few countries compete in Olympic wrestling compared to Olympic judo

[@jonathan2847]

S: Track A: Judo B: Mauy Thai C: Wrestling D: Boxing E: BJJ Wrestling has same problem as BJJ it ends up with you on the floor getting kicked in the head.

[@frankbatista]

The only problem I find with wrestling is the high physical cost of learning it. Which is why jujitsu is far more accessible to far more people, it is physically less demanding. wrestlers are impressive fuckers and we can’t all be that physically fit.

[@ArnasLeo]

Fair point.. unless maybe if you start very young..

[@frankbatista]

@@ArnasLeo definitely. If I had known when I was younger, what I know today, I would’ve taken wrestling, even if I was bad at it, and never got anywhere with it BJJ and kickboxing would’ve been so much easier if I had a wrestling background.

[@dylanryan3525]

You can be that fit your just not tough enough to want it!

[@frankbatista]

@@dylanryan3525 has nothing to do with how tough or weak I am. I’m 35 years old with a house a business and a family to run and maintain. I can’t dedicate 3 hours daily to exercise and put my body through the challenge. I have to get up at 5 am next morning and work for 10-12 hours a day. Wrestling is hell on the body. I’m not willing to sacrifice for a sport I’m not competing in. Priorities bud. It’s what adults are made of.

[@dirtygeazer9266]

I think the silliest arguments against wrestling is eye pokes groin attacks and back of the head/neck stuff like come on lets live in reality no fiction that stuff doesn't stop takedowns and makes the guy more angry also i love that everyones other argument is weapons like boxing or karate or muay thai teach you how to deal with knives and guns also if you look at knife and weapons defense it's grappling it's basic wrestling 2 on 1s russian ties etc just methods of isolating and controlling the arm not art teaches this besides grappling also when you learn wrestling or bjj you leanr how to get out from worst possible spot in a fight if you are a striker and wnd up on bottom it's over

[@maxsonja6608]

Wrestling is very much a part of the grappling world but by itself is not enough, wrestlers come into my bjj school and get there back taken and choked often. They are the king of take downs and some super powered athletes though. Once they learn submissions and some striking they are gold. Bell curb is very small

[@Koushik_Borgohain_913]

1on1 it's good but in group fights it might be little bit difficult.

[@RXW4]

The original sport of wrestling did include submissions, as all of these grappling sports such as jiu-jitsu originated from it. The mindset and grind mentality alone is enough for you to win a fight, let alone actually know how to wrestle.

[@MoWrestlingFan21]

Most disciplines won't admit that wrestling is the BEST foundation.

[@mariuscatalin5982]

Boxing and wrestling form a very good combo

[@mutaassibturk]

You can hit the groin and poke an eye without training. If you really want to learn how to defend yourself you should analyse street fights and train according to that. Imo if you don't have the power to ko someone with one punch you should better train wrestling or judo. With them, you can effortlessly throw people to concrete and run away

[@omega60_fattyAcid]

AWWWW I AM BLUSHING

[@ArnasLeo]

:)))

[@Build_Eye]

Boxing + Wrestling and your set

[@YeshuaILove13698]

I wouldn’t say so, only for the one factor that you can’t use every move in it because you could possibly break your neck or head or at least bleed a little bit call Mom before everybody says they do next strength training. This is Captain obvious I know that. You don’t have to tell me that but I’m pretty sure if you were to slam yourself on concrete it’s different than slamming yourself on a Matt now if you were to incorporate like certain moves into wrestling on being able how to use them because I’ve seen wrestling work and street fights and they’re actually used way different than they are on the mat just for these valid reasons so yes, you can use it in the street the same way you can use any grappling art in the street that you can fine. It always just depends for me. I always tell people I think it’s better to have strikes as well with grapples cause if you have only strikes, and you have like a master grappler who knows how to evade punches he’s going to Grouch View he’s gonna throw you if you only have grapples, you’re gonna get struck by someone who doesn’t. So it’s always good to have the two.

[@birupakshchoudhury7057]

Its always go go go when wrestling

[@dangelojenkins4296]

Catch wrestling is still wrestling. There's been submission wrestling since the dawn of time

[@DanielSmith-pq4yc]

Wrestling is fantastic the strength and conditioning side alone put up then you add tried and tested skills which mske for a great base to add things too whether that's a striking art like boxing or muay Thai or bjj its not a accident that many mma fighters have a base in wrestling

[@bluejay4668]

Muai thai 1000% every fight starts on feet and Muai thai is most complex on feet including a tiny bit of "grapping" which is clinching

[@bluejay4668]

@@user-nd6qv6ly3o lmao????!!! Do you thibn muai thai guys not use hands? we strike ppl with our knees and elbows acrosss the face once we get cloth but not hands?

[@optivi]

@@bluejay4668 as a boxer I have to agree with you since I respect mua tai, i have alot of mua tai fighters in my boxing gym and its popular to do both, I do think though that wrestling and grapping is useless in street unless your going on the guy with no friends. Heres the thing guys "Sean Strickland", if you have friends with you then if he takes you down your friend is going to kick his face out. In a streetfight I think the most important thing to do is to avoid them and just hit them 1 2 times mabe they get knocked the fuck out who knows but still a 1 2 and then just walk away or run.

[@tomwood5784]

​@@user-nd6qv6ly3oyou don't know what your on about bro

[@BigBallsLover6969]

As a wrestler yes it’s great but you also need decent striking and jujitsu in combination if you want to guarantee

[@bloontewn3291]

In a defense situation youre most likely smaller, wrestling is great for getting into good positions and taking some one down. But most people trying to kill you or harm you for something, theyll just bash your head in or kick your head in. Best for martial art self defence imo has to be boxing or bjj but gotta be pretty good in it

[@bronzetiger6360]

As soon as its more than one( which is Often) how effective is it? Better back that crap up with some potent Boxing hands and Knee strikes.

[@Sir_Pants_Alot]

Wrestling is good but it honestly gets overhyped because there’s very few people that wrestle recreationally. The “wrestlers” these guys are talking about are kids that got put on the mats at 8 years old and wrestled up to or through college. Wrestling by itself is very rarely taught to adults who are just somewhat interested or trying to get into shape. A lot of mma schools might have “wrestling days” but a school that teaches just wrestling for adults is real rare.

[@mordi2537]

Training Wrestling sure helps.

[@theladder4476]

Its S tier for sure, just look at the UFC

[@Apple_100]

🙏🏽

[@Bigchungusdeluxe]

I’ve never seen a wrestler lose a street fight. That’s all I’m saying 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@AndrewLaReal]

Problem with Wrestling it’s a lot more physically oriented than Bjj and Judo, so if you’re facing someone taller or bigger then it’s harder to use. The former have techniques that are better for people who already aren’t already above average in athleticism.

[@evenisabelpazleja5945]

Y would you need submissions when u can slap them on the ground

[@Branden-vl9sl]

No style is the best but wrestling is probably the best foundation. Simply because they can dictate where the fight goes.

[@schoolofhardknocks6736]

Wrestling doesn't work in a street setting in my opinion because there are no rules. I havr never wrestled and I do boxing but if i got into a fight with a wrestler i would bite, poke, hell even pinch to get back on my feet. Maybe I'm wrong but in a street fight the ground is not where i want to be

[@Samyok69]

Cam we do taekwando next?

[@dylanryan3525]

If someone has better wrestling than you and can strike your in for a fight scariest people are wrestlers that don’t like to wrestle they just defend clinch and takedowns and knock your teeth out

[@echo5226]

Self defense if your plan is to be the aggressor when someone attacks you.

[@Lykanthroped]

i wish i woulda had better grades so that i could actually wrestle all my matches. too late now tho.

[@charlesnelson9831]

Only if you can grab the guy you're fighting u still need to know boxing so both are equal in importance of knowledge and training

[@youngOG87]

I think it’s 50/50 boxing and wrestling of course I’m American. BJJ following close behind.

[@leooooJo]

Definitely.

[@dneirF552]

bro i wished there was some international martial art that is like mma but absolutely no rules at all and whit knife defense techniques and Where you could test it in a cage fight one whit a fake knife Thats as hard as a boxing glove and a guy whit nothing that would be cool

[@dominirican7403]

Best martial art to teach a woman is the art of guak guak 3000

[@mkmj1643]

I think the perfect martial art must have grapple and some striking moves together, you will be very all-rounded and would be the best if you practice conditioning everyday so you can run away instead of fighting 👍🏻

[@Barisdagame]

Yes.

[@Giant_shark]

Wrestling in street: yo face about to meet asphalt

[@DieselMMA]

Wrestling, Muay Thai, and jiu jitsu are all S tier

[@DT.U]

Am a pretty advanced wrestler and I can say for self defense bjj judo or boxing. Is a better alternative.

[@wreckyface7620]

Would you please elaborate on why you think so?

[@DT.U]

@@wreckyface7620 sure why not. A street fight should never be taken to the ground in the first place. That’s why you should learn something like boxing. If you do get to the ground bjj is a better option as you can manipulate joints and you have ways to subdue or choke out the enemy. Wrestling is a really good foundation but there are better options. I appreciate you not attacking me for saying what I think.😅😅

[@wreckyface7620]

@@DT.U yo no worries man, there's no need to be mean about personal opinions. I'm a judoka and i just started freestyle wrestling, and i pretty much agree with you, except the fact i think, and i hate to say this, wrestlers have better takedown skills than most judokas/bjj practicioners (am also training a little bit of bjj). And i value the takedown as the most important thing for a street fight since, if controlled, it will completely eliminate any legal problem and at the same it will put you in a much better position than your opponent. Also i don't truely believe the 'you don't go to the ground in a street fight because your opponent might have friends', because i think that IF he has friends you're done anyway, no matter if you go to the ground or not, i don't think the outcome against three dudes is gonna be much different if you stay on your feet or not.

[@DT.U]

@@wreckyface7620 for things like doubles singles high c’s yea but for takedowns has a hole it’s hard to say. Judo has a wide variety of throws and trips same with bjj. Wrestlers typically have better takedowns than most bjj guys. When it comes to throws and trips judo guys are better. For double legs and things like that wrestlers.

[@wreckyface7620]

@@DT.U yeah ok, absolutely, but i meant takedown as the ability to bring someone to the ground, regardless if it is via throws or single and doubles. I think that in the whole wrestlers are generally better. But it's just my opinion

[@donaldturner5124]

Wrestling is based upon speed, agility and strength. You won’t always have that.

[@jaredcoleman9313]

I don't believe in martial arts that much for self defense in the streets cause where I live most people have guns and knives. Martial arts at this point is a great sport but trying to fight somebody is a sure way to get murdered. You either stay strapped or die trying to double leg or box somebody.

[@user-ch1pm1fj1k]

What exercises give you that wrestling strength?

[@g_bersek785]

I agree to the firsy guy

[@ArnasLeo]

Natan Levy, he's promising UFC lightweight, check him out!

[@Jay2gzzly]

a boxer is going to punch a wrestler so many times before he even grabs a hold of him. I've seen a wrestler try for a take down in a street fight against a boxer and the boxer dropped him with an uppercut and a right hook before he got a chance to grab him

[@biustas]

that is such a fuckin bs u just said , your wrestler was a rookie most likely , when i was doing sambo we would call boxers "corpses"cause u could do anything u wanted to them , either ure lying or wrestler wasnt a wrestler

[@tjbjjtkd]

Wrestling you don't run the risk of damaging your hands from striking with the hands, and you don't half to pummel someone to a bloody pulp or risk killing some poor fool. The BJJ Wrestling mix, I think, would be best for self-defense.

[@abhimanyubist1875]

I wonder though cause you can't really deal with multiple guys simultaneously like how you can with striking martial arts in which you can quickly disengage with one guy and deal with others cause you hit and get back and stuff. But in wrestling you focus on one guy only at a time takes longer to disengage , can't really put your knees on the ground either cause of concrete and it's harder to deal with weapons as well cause you can't block something like a knife and can't dodge cause how close you are . But that's just me I am still learning and please correct me if I am wrong

[@dirtygeazer9266]

A lot of the knife defense that is sold is just wrestling and bjj grips to control and isolate arms there are many takedowns in wrestling that don't require going both knees to floor and it's the only way to get up if you end up on bottom without grappling it can be a 1v1 and striker will be dead

[@abhimanyubist1875]

@@dirtygeazer9266 interesting I do know about the grip thing of the knife as in to isolate the immediate threat but what about multiple opponents ? Isn't striking better in that scenario?

[@dirtygeazer9266]

@@abhimanyubist1875 yes but you can still get away with wrestling multiple just depends on how you do it maybe hip toss one of them then and run you could use the underhooks to move them around to meat shield protection from a weapon or punches maybe idk how I'd approach that

[@abhimanyubist1875]

@@dirtygeazer9266 I suppose so but I guess that's why Jeff said that a wrestler with boxing fundamentals will be A teir . Thank you for the insight brother 🤜🏼

[@tekken.universal2343]

oh yeah hugging men is such a self defence

[@incorruptibleword4513]

As a single style Sambo has to be near the top

[@NickyMetropolis1313]

I think wrestling and grappling and this type of thing are amazing skills but I think they are not really fighting but rather a way to keep from fighting. Having control of a person is great for self-defense but is that fighting? When a police officer ties up a guy and puts him down and cuffs him is that a fight? I'm not sure it is.

[@coltonkosto98]

I say Sambo, if we have to pick one. But idk if Sambo is the sport name, or the martial art name.

[@someonesucks7185]

Wrestling conditioning is bodybuilding

[@ghostface7591]

There are thousands of self defense methods way better than martial arts, a simple knife can make a bjj black belt dangerously useless, even club or rock can make Mike Tyson a defenseless. You got my point. I'm a bjj blue belt here in Brazil, but i know in today's world the use of martial arts as a self defense is something you should never rely thrust on. Never 100%. Be ahead, carry a gun, a pocket knife or even a flashlight. And yeah, running and driving skill can save you life way better.

[@ramonvelasquez8431]

The useful thing about wrestling is that it tackles the most primitive forms of fighting and movement. Basically to wrestle is what you would do if you were a caveman fighting off an animal or another human, at least holding your own while you find a way to finish it off or scare them away.

[@Roodjes603]

Wrestling is control… control is dominance. I am a wrestler and doing mma. There is no workout more intense then freaking wrestling. First 20 minutes in people leave the mat. You become a super conditioned concrete anaconda. Don’t see me wrong… many sports are hard… but wrestling just damn… you use you whole body and cardio.

[@nudaveritas8195]

And Iranians are fucking good at it. It's their national sport. The absolute best wrestlers are Iranians.

[@Nazeem_100]

Track is s+ 😊

[@bobronsons5780]

did they forget about Judo?

[@mrmoth26]

Judo is a form of wrestling

[@williamm4366]

Hello i work in private security with high profile clients often in luxury resorts, if you have to chose one martial art to defend yourself you better chose one who include the use of weapons because you know, we're not cavemen anymore and your wrestling isn't gonna cut it against a knife but your throat will quickly have a metallic taste.

[@ArnasLeo]

Which martial art would that be? What is yours? :)

[@sebastianbruzzone4731]

The best martial art for self-defense is brazilian jiu-jitsu

[@Platinum.Gamer97]

Best self defense is not get into fights and if u do have a gun problem solved the American way 😂😂😂💀💀💀

[@Wassim6538]

Never get a fight to the ground. Even on top, you could get stabbed

[@t1000melty]

In my opinion, wrestling is too aggressive for self defense, and pinning inst all that useful

[@MurDrumHD]

Wrestling best fundamental if your doing mma but if a pure wrestler goes down with a pure jits guy then jits wins all day show that wrestler some submission attacks n defences then the jits guy will struggle perhaps even lose