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[@1214101]

That brings me back to the old JD’s , as good as they were, your back and head was basically up against the back glass. You got the heat and the sun. The old Magnum’s and the Case tractors had that big over hang over the back window, it helped a lot. The overhang is good idea for all sides really.

[@VahrenbergImplement]

One of our favorite Features is the Giant Windshield Wiper on Front of Cab. It cleans more window area and knocks off more dust so you can see. All because Protect U Cab Design. Plus the Reverse Tilt of Front Glass will keep your windshield cleaner wider at top than bottom so the dust falls off glass.

[@connslvr]

I bought my MF 4710 a few months ago. I like it so far (I’m old blue tractor people). I looked at the 8S for the fun of it last year at the Southern Farm Show in Raleigh. It looked like a beast. Agco’s position on right to repair influenced my purchase too.

[@DeepSouthBama56]

Well , Patrick you asked and Massy delivered. Glad to see you in a Massy

[@PatrickShivers]

@@DeepSouthBama56 I’m asking next if any boat manufacturers have a 30’ center console that they want a video of running in the gulf catching some fall Red Snapper 😂

[@tunisbalboa8137]

Great video, can't wait to see the Massey at work.

[@jamesh.5709]

Man, I love a Massey Ferguson tractor. Growing up in western NC watching Grandpa set tobacco behind an old MF 35 Series tractor, then he moved up to a MF 200 series. All I have now of that golden childhood are memories and an old scrapbook full of photographs of the fun taken with a Kodak. Wearin' my Massey hat too! Great video Patrick. 😀❤👍😎

[@gatorguy7711]

You look good in that Massey! Take care and be safe...

[@Notbendover]

Pat I think you got what it takes to be REAL professional tractor reviewer. Knowledgeable in real world farming and open to try many different brands outs. Hope you get more opportunities in the future. 👍

[@PatrickShivers]

@@Notbendover thank you. It’s all about views/sales. The more views a manufacturer can get from product placement on my channel, the more likely they are to do it. When someone buys a product b/c of something they saw on my channel, the dealer calls and wants to place another item.

[@jamescoble6517]

Thanks for the video. I liked the placement of the air intake. Our 8r John Deere's air intake is on top of the hood and will fill the air filter with water during a heavy rain.

[@PatrickShivers]

Yep

[@derekmartin2817]

They just issued a pip for that.

[@MorganOtt-ne1qj]

​@@derekmartin2817That shouldn't have been an issue if the 🐂💩🤬 engineers and designers had a clue about what they were doing. They should have to run equipment for a year, and maintain it, before they are allowed to design it.

[@derekmartin2817]

@ welcome to the world of engineering and living in a climate that is alien to the hq of the designers. 3” an hour rain just dont happen up there.

[@jamesjarratt7907]

Great video. It will be interesting to see if the increased comforts and versatility translates to production. You would think so.

[@huntinandscrappin306]

Massey is always down south - obviously one of the most popular tractors. They pull amadas with Massey every year here.

[@PatrickShivers]

@@huntinandscrappin306 this is the first new Massey (above 100 hp) I’ve seen in 30+ years, and I have never seen Massey of any vintage hooked to a peanut picker, but it was more common in the 1970s

[@miketaylor5986]

Enjoyed the Massey presentation. I ran Massey back when I was farming. 1100s, 1150, 1155, and a 2775. Rugged tractors and I hope they make a comeback. As you know key is dealer network and parts availability.

[@luisnunes7933]

Hello, Patrick! Smart fancy tractor...

[@DB_Cooper727]

Can’t wait to see that Massey pickin’ tomorrow.

[@rainchildagribusinesslimit696]

Those 8s and 9s Massey are the future today

[@PatrickShivers]

They are Amazing

[@brandontegan9665]

Just bought an 8S 305. It's awesome

[@jackweeks8099]

Well ole Wesley usually talks more than that at church! 😆 Ready to hear what you have to say about the Massey after some seat time! Others too I’m sure.

[@RobB-cy5gu]

Another Great Video Patrick!

[@salt-team-six5883]

Some pretty nice thought out things

[@gittyupg007]

They deserve credit, nice functions in modern day. Common sense engineering shouldn't be over looked. That horse steps pretty good!

[@pc5569]

You asked for Massey and looks like they delivered. Nothing wrong with John Deere but these Massey tractors are something to give a serious look at. Their lastest designs are super sharp. Tractor air conditioning is easy to get wrong. Like you stated, it is all glass, sits on top of 200° transmission fluid, and sits behind a 200° engine. Lots of heat to to shed. Really waiting to hear your thoughts after you get to use it. Glad you pointed out the cab/hood gap as many I'm sure didn't know it had a purpose.

[@MorganOtt-ne1qj]

A great place to catch "stuff", but that's just imho. Keep it away from hayfields and pasture clipping, it shouldn't collect much stuff.

[@pc5569]

@MorganOtt-ne1qj Not an issue. Many Massey's cutting, chopping, baling hay. My JD has a gap so should I stay away from all that too?

[@MorganOtt-ne1qj]

@@pc5569 I run JD "R" series at my job. That's how I know it catches stuff in the gap, especially with a loader on. Blowing or washing out the gap is just a regular thing on them for us. I guess it's the "new thing", but it also allows for a tilt up hood. Everything has a trade off. 👍🚜🤠

[@brendancahill7328]

Really liking the 8S Patrick👍. Very popular over here in Ireland since they were introduced. Looking forward to seeing you picking peanuts with MF power👌

[@PatrickShivers]

@@brendancahill7328 thanks for watching back in the homeland.

[@timr8501]

I'm a green guy but that Massey is a good looking machine.

[@johngreer8101]

We had a massey 1150 and 1150 v8 tractors on the garm growing up. Tuff old tractors but i still always liked our john deeres a lot better

[@ChuckWorkman-y6x]

I understand that the MF 85 is made in France, is that correct? Very good engineering! Another great video Patrick! Thank you Sir!

[@PatrickShivers]

@@ChuckWorkman-y6x yes, Beauvais France

[@gatorguy7711]

Massey has a big presence in farming in Europe. On two other farming and dairy channels (IFarm WeFarm and Four Winds) in Europe that I follow use several Massey tractors. Check out these channels as it is always interesting to learn about farming in other parts of the world, especially all the regulations that they have to deal with in their operations. Viewing their challenges will make you appreciate even more farming in South Georgia. Just a thought...

[@PatrickShivers]

@@gatorguy7711 I watch TractorSpotter. It’s a European version of Big Tractor Power.

[@RobertOther-d1h]

Thank You Patrick .

[@PatrickShivers]

Thank you for watching!

[@robwar2288]

Fendts have Self Cleaning air filters and reversing fans Factory! Traded 7 Deeres for Fendts!

[@darryladams519]

Nice tractor but boo def. How much does it use in a day?

[@PatrickShivers]

All new tractors/trucks run it, thank your government for mandating it. Adds costs to running and shortens engine life (regin engines force hot exhaust into intake).

[@johnnyholland8765]

Thanks for the field trial but just more bells and whistles to go bad and cost money to fix. I am not too lazy to clean my air filters every day like I have always done. I am not too lazy to steer my tractor and follow the row. I pride myself in being able to lay and hold a straight row. It costs a lot of money for gps that can be used somewhere else. When I get to the point I can't do these things anymore then it is time to quit...

[@ericlemay686]

The separated oil tanks for transmission and implements and the way to change pto shaft are not new features ! The 7400 series back in 2005 has all that ! 14000 hours on my 2005 7495 and still running strong !

[@richaust8718]

We need Massey to expand their dealer network, particularly in the Delta. We need competition with the green stuff . We see the smaller forage size tractors but not the larger row crop machines. .

[@PatrickShivers]

@@richaust8718 that’s exactly why I made this video. The only way to expand their network is for them to first expand sales.

[@MorganOtt-ne1qj]

The PTO swap looks like a pain in the rear. JD has had dry socket PTO since the 1990's, pliers, not wrenches. But you know that, Patrick. Nobody makes a perfect anything, and you have to balance what you want with what you need with what you can afford, but it really comes down to the dealership support. My family went Green back during WWII, because the Red dealer wouldn't get a tractor to my Dad and Uncle even though they had a Certificate of Need. After almost a year, the JD dealer said he could have one (JD A!) in a week if they brought in the Certificate. There's not a CIH dealer within 40 miles now, but 3 JD stores. 1 is still a single store operation.

[@johndeere7245]

There ain't anyone who don't have a battery impact that can't change that bolt on stub shaft in a few minutes. Isn't like it is something new either, 1100-1155 Masseys had bolt on stubs as well, as well as a few other tractors of that era. Seen people have issues with those dry socket PTO shafts on the Deere's seizing in the hole or having the speed changer not wanting to shift inside the socket, so the Deere design isn't infallible either. They are all going to give issues at some point, it is having good dealer and parts support that makes the difference. At this point, I just want to see another manufacturer step up and keep Deere honest.

[@MorganOtt-ne1qj]

@johndeere7245 I can swap the shaft with my Leatherman, and have done it many times. The impact wrenches usually stay in the shop, but the equipment doesn't always stay close. JD 4010's required wrenches to swap PTO shafts, but they quickly learned how to make it easier. I'm not bragging on JD, I am wondering why MF is still needing a wrench. Old IH just had 2 shafts sticking out, and you hooked up to the one you needed.

[@15thGenerationTidewaterFarmer]

Did that man say there was a ruff up on top of that tractor?

[@PatrickShivers]

😂 He’s a southern transplant. Our yankee brethren can’t help that they weren’t born in God’s country. That said, he’s a super nice guy and extremely knowledgeable.

[@15thGenerationTidewaterFarmer]

@PatrickShivers yeah there was a few words he was pronouncing that was a dead giveaway that he wasn't originally from Georgia. But converts are okay too. As long as they get converted.

[@Haxzyr]

Such a long way since factory workers rode in on horses to the factory. They manufactured the three point hitch, I suspect on the Model T. Shout out to the blue Ford Tractors, btw!! I wonder about MF mowers now after reading about their history. Some newer heavy equipment has the ability to temporarily reverse fan rotation to blow out the dust collected in the radiator. I wonder if other shade tree mechanics like repairing on a MF. Never liked the opinion of a mechanic I heard saying everything is backards. He was pretty sorry to try to fix our old one.

[@PatrickShivers]

@@Haxzyr if he couldn’t work on a Perkins engine then he wasn’t a good mechanic

[@tugboat2739]

Howdy Mr peanut 🥜

[@WilliamWebb-i4f]

How does it compare to the fendt aren’t they owned by the same company now

[@PatrickShivers]

@@WilliamWebb-i4f I don’t have experience operating a Fendt, but they do share a few internal components.

[@royalefarms7637]

My local dealer shop is always full of Fergusons. I'd look into a Fendt

[@peanutsmith1462]

Interesting 🤔

[@amosmoses9247]

Before I bought my last tractor, the massey i looked at was made in China. That was a hard pass for me.

[@PatrickShivers]

The 8S tractors are all built in France

[@johndeere7245]

The Global tractors are built in the China factory and the San Paulo Brazil factory, as well as the 5710 and 5711 Dyna4 variant is built in France. All the S series are built in France.

[@1214101]

You didn’t tell the horsepower?

[@PatrickShivers]

Sorry, if you are familiar with tractors it is kinda obvious. It’s a 8S 265 that means 265 hp. A John Deere 8R 250 for example has 250 hp

[@1214101]

@ just not familiar with Massy anymore. SEMO, we have a bunch of JD and Case dealers. Recently a Claas dealership and Fendt dealer . Claas combines become pretty popular when Case first came out with that combine that replaced its 2388. Couldn’t sell them and the Case dealer picked it up up when the Cat dealer quit selling farm equipment. Then the Case dealer give it up when Case fixed their machine. No Massy dealers for Miles, I guess, haven’t seen one in working in years around here.

[@1214101]

@ never saw the number in the video.

[@sew1194]

Isn't it pretty much a red Fendt?

[@johndeere7245]

Nope, whole different animal from a Fendt. Some of the engineering crosses over, but there are few parts that cross between the two.

[@PatrickShivers]

I think they share some transmission parts.

[@johndeere7245]

@@PatrickShivers I think the Fendt factory builds the CVT that is in the Massey, (Massey builds their own powershifts inhouse at the France factory)but I am almost positive it is built as a Massey spec and not a Fendt spec. The Fendts from the new 600 series on up run the DualDrive transmissions that separately drives the front and rear axles, the Massey still uses a transfer case with a fixed ratio to drive the MFWD. I know the engines are different, Fendt is Deutz in the older and smaller models and the MAN designed low speed concept AGCOPower engines in the newer and larger models. Massey runs the higher speed 7.4L in that 8S versus a new Fendt 728 that has a 7.5L AGCO MAN engine. Plus all the other Massey specific parts compared to Fendt. The Massey is designed to be the simpler tractor compared to Fendt since AGCO intends Massey to be the value tractor compared to Fendt, and it bares out in the pricing since the Massey is roughly 80-85% the cost of a Fendt.

[@PatrickShivers]

@ great info

[@hokie9910]

When I hear sealed and maintenance free…..I get a little concerned.

[@deerepasture]

Lack of reliability, lack of resale value are hallmarks of Massey

[@JimmyClark-1962]

What's the hp and cost that mf?

[@PatrickShivers]

@@JimmyClark-1962 265hp cost is $225,000-$300,000 depending on options and dealer incentives

[@JimmyClark-1962]

@ thank you sir