BEST WAY TO BREAK IN YOUR ENGINE FOR STREET OR RACING!

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Ben Alameda Racing

Ben Alameda Racing

Күн бұрын

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@edsmachine93
@edsmachine93 Күн бұрын
Great Tech Ben, you're absolutely correct about the importance of breaking and engine. Acceleration and deceleration is important. Pushing the rings out against the cylinders. Thanks for sharing. Hope that you had a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. 🙏
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
Yes without decelerating it is hard to really seat in the rings and if it does not? It will not really put out all the power it can make!
@darren-r1t
@darren-r1t 18 сағат бұрын
I can't believe your not followed by 100's of 1000's of people. You are on smart cookie!!
@RussellCompton-fh3gr
@RussellCompton-fh3gr 21 сағат бұрын
good info
@TommyT236
@TommyT236 Күн бұрын
Merry Christmas Ben! Appreciate your advice always! Thanks
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
Merry Christmas Tommy!
@orozcoracing.7450
@orozcoracing.7450 Күн бұрын
Thank you Mr. Ben Alameda, as always, very valuable information, everything I have learned watching your videos I apply when I can and it always makes a big difference, and I have improved a lot watching your videos, your advice has never failed, thank you very much.
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
Thank you as well and glad it help in your builds.
@LoneWrencher
@LoneWrencher Күн бұрын
i had the same pedal car in the 60s when i was just a few years old
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
That is how we start to become gearheads!
@bobcuomo5122
@bobcuomo5122 Күн бұрын
Thanks for another nugget of knowlage Mr Alameda !
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
Thanks Bob!
@JoeBlow-dn9tn
@JoeBlow-dn9tn Күн бұрын
Them instructions used to come with ring sets 30 to 40 years back
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
They did? Nice to know they had it right even back then.
@stuartwall8212
@stuartwall8212 11 сағат бұрын
I put new rings in a Civic, first time for installing rings, and read somewhere to accelerate and decelerate 10 times. The engine was in the car, so it did not get honed, but still had cross hatch. I put it in second gear and accelerated from 20mph to 50mph and coasted back down to 20. It smoked like a smokehouse, and I was scared I did something wrong....but after the 4th pass the smoke was decreasing...and after the 8th pass, it quit smoking. I was very relieved. I put 150,000 miles on that car before someone stole it, lol.
@pete540Z
@pete540Z 19 сағат бұрын
I believe you are correct on this, for several reasons. Ben, I'd love to hear you tell us the reasons for doing this, the theory.
@bobbywilliams5657
@bobbywilliams5657 Күн бұрын
Happy Holiday I your videos. I have been trying to find a video you did talk about turning pistons around on a 5.3 LS
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 20 сағат бұрын
Only on engines with 4 valve relief eyebrows on the pistons. Otherwise you need to order a set with an offset pin to one side to take advantage of the benefits.
@dondotterer24
@dondotterer24 Күн бұрын
Thanks Ben. I do it the same way you do and always works. And yes My wife drives the same as yours. LOL
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
Yes sir and she is so inconsistent it gives me a neck ache after every trip! lol
@dondotterer24
@dondotterer24 Күн бұрын
@benalamedaracing2765 me too.
@thegraystang66
@thegraystang66 13 сағат бұрын
Taking notes for the 363
@natez0690
@natez0690 16 сағат бұрын
Thanks Mr. Alameda. I’ll be using your technique when breaking in my new road race LS7. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
@Kenny-b8p
@Kenny-b8p Күн бұрын
Merry Christmas from North Texas,great food for thought,, happy New year
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
Thanks Kenny!
@dick6395
@dick6395 Күн бұрын
Thank you Ben great video
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
Thanks again!
@williamzoom
@williamzoom Күн бұрын
I dated a girl that drove like that she said she was saving gas like that lol & another that drove with one foot on the throttle & the other on the brake pedal.
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
Many men and women develop bad driving habits and many are unaware of what they continue to do while driving! lol
@jtrill2
@jtrill2 Күн бұрын
I feel like you could even do this on a broken in engine to "service it" and gain some benefit. But i would follow up with a decent smooth cruise for a while to smooth things out. Just my opinion.
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
Best to quickly break in the rings as fast as possible because an engine with rings not fully seated, pistons will actually run hotter than what it was designed to run on! Remember, this is even more critical with thinner rings and the transfer of heat to the cylinder wall and eventually to the coolant is not as good compared to a thicker 1/16 or 5/16 ring sets.
@timweb1510
@timweb1510 Күн бұрын
Would I be able to use a stock bore forged piston and forged rod with factory Windsor crank without using a machine shop for anything other than balancing?
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
Well that all depends specially on mains/rods bearing clearances and side to side clearance between both rods on the crank throws. Everything has to be right on or else you are destined for a poor performing engine which might not even last very long.
@warrenglover
@warrenglover Күн бұрын
Merry Christmas 😊😅
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
Merry Christmas Warren!
@dalewarriorofthesea3998
@dalewarriorofthesea3998 Күн бұрын
Will use procedure on 347 in the coming months Merry Christmas Ben
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
Yes sir and the faster you get that to seal in the longer the engine will last with good power compared to a ring seal that has not broken in correctly.
@ptaormina8010
@ptaormina8010 19 сағат бұрын
Great Video. I have been in the Mustang craze since the late 80s. Brings back so many memories of the Buick versus the Ford stuff in the early days. I myself still drag race an 83 fox body. I noticed somebody commented on a Mopar, Would love for you to post a little information on that. My brother has been drag racing a Dodge dart since the late 80s. His combination now is a B1 headed aluminum BILL Mitchell 572. The combination is tapped out in naturally aspirated form, we’ve been talking about doing a turbo or 2,but just don’t see how it all fit. Would love if you could share some photos and information on it. Anyways, I thoroughly enjoy your videos, knowledge, and experience. Waiting for the next one. Happy holidays !
@juancamaney3562
@juancamaney3562 Күн бұрын
Thank you for this awesome You Tube video Mr. Alameda 👍 Is it a good idea to change the oil and oil filter after the breaking? 🤔
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
With the old flat tappets I did change oil and filter after I break in the cam. Nowadays with roller cam hydraulic or solids, I just spin out the filter, open it up to look for debris and install a new one and top it off and off to the track!
@kevinwest3689
@kevinwest3689 Күн бұрын
My Dilemma is mine needs to be turned/ Adjusted. Before I could do this. But I'm not capable of making the Adjustments. By the time my brain could get a handle on how to do that, The car would rust to the ground. I guess I'm going to have to Have it tuned and broke in on an engine dino. Then take it back after it installed to Adjust for load/ Weight/ gears/ect ect.
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
As long as your combination is not an odd ball engine, most tune can be achieved without much serious screw ups.
@kevinwest3689
@kevinwest3689 21 сағат бұрын
@benalamedaracing2765 I appreciate your response. Funny story, I used to read about your cars to my son before he was born. And when he was made to cry at Birth, I said you're going to be all right boy, and he recognized my voice, Stopped cry, and was doing all he could to focus on finding daddy. I have a photo of him Laying on me at about 2 years old on the Couch, We are both staring at super ford magazine With our mouths open, He couldn't read the information, But we are both Staring at it like we saw our first pair of breasts. Thanks for the decades of information and dream Weaving. ✌️
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 20 сағат бұрын
@@kevinwest3689 I am deeply humbled by your comment Kevin. Statements like yours are showing me I have at least made a difference to many people not costing them a dime to learn and I do as well. Thanks you sir!
@dalelockett2619
@dalelockett2619 18 сағат бұрын
Good stuff, Ben! 👍👊
@dondotterer24
@dondotterer24 Күн бұрын
I always wondered how much load to put in the dyno when breaking in?
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
I wonder about that as well and I can tell the engine is loaded down but really don't know how much!
@dondotterer24
@dondotterer24 Күн бұрын
@benalamedaracing2765 I will ask and let you know.
@JC-gw3yo
@JC-gw3yo 16 сағат бұрын
We to go Ben.. We are love ya man...
@joeyjojojr.shabadoo915
@joeyjojojr.shabadoo915 22 сағат бұрын
Hey Ben, I love your channel and the wealth of knowledge that you have to offer. I have a question, specifically for the 8.2 Deck guys out here. As anyone can do the math and has likely figured it out, there are 2 ways to build a 347. Obviously the main point is, *whether you buying or re-using an existing 8.2 block* . My question is, *if you were buying a Block and Crankshaft BRAND NEW* , would you ALWAYS go *Big Bore 347* (4.125 x 3.250) ? or are there scenarios where you would go *Longer Stroke 347* (4.030 x 3.400) ?
@mikecondoluci53
@mikecondoluci53 Күн бұрын
hi ben merry christmas to you and your family
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
Thanks Mike!
@4fun123254
@4fun123254 Күн бұрын
how do you do a drag car , thats not on the street?
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
I used to go to an industrial section of our city on weekends and do my rounds there. Usually a cop shows up and ends up watching and enjoying all the great stuff we have in the car/lol
@davidphillips3801
@davidphillips3801 16 сағат бұрын
Dyno
@robertclymer6948
@robertclymer6948 11 сағат бұрын
Hi Ben! Is there any truth to engine braking tends to suck oil up to the top end of the engine? Think I heard that when breaking in my Harley engine back in the day and constant engine speed variation. Thanks much! Happy New Year to you and yours from Michigan.
@brokejoebuilds5165
@brokejoebuilds5165 Күн бұрын
Sf-110, how well does it work for you?
@warrenglover
@warrenglover Күн бұрын
I have new L33 5.3 ls . Hehehe
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
Time to break it in like I showed here Warren! lol
@warrenglover
@warrenglover Күн бұрын
@benalamedaracing2765 yes I will copy you..
@warrenglover
@warrenglover Күн бұрын
Lol
@warrenglover
@warrenglover Күн бұрын
@benalamedaracing2765 I got pull out LM7 for now . L33 going in . Soon shift head .065 , intake bottom spacer . And v- goove cylinder head. Get summit racing cam .. and shave .020 off head. And shorter push rod. Cam summit racing call Big nasty cam new one I heard .. better than Texas cam and BTR . 105+3 tight .
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
@@warrenglover Keep me posted and that thing should rock!
@autonomous_collective
@autonomous_collective Күн бұрын
Ben, where is your MOPAR?🏁🏁🏁
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
I still have my twin turbo B1 Koffel head Mopar.
@autonomous_collective
@autonomous_collective Күн бұрын
@@benalamedaracing2765 Awesome, Merry Xmas🎄 and a Happy New Year🎉 to you & your family. Thx for sharing your knowledge and stories.... Well appreciated my friend.
@petemcpeterson6205
@petemcpeterson6205 Күн бұрын
I've never broken in a race engine. I figure that once you get it running good enough to do a burn out it's good to go. Never had any ring or piston issues that I couldn't attribute to something else. The way I think of it is anything making a thousand or more HP has a limited lifetime anyhow and I don't want to waste any of that time on breaking it in .
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
To make maximum power you have to have an excellent to very good ring seal or else you will be down on power! One indication would be the catch can from the vacuum pump fills up more than the usual amount after every pass.
@petemcpeterson6205
@petemcpeterson6205 Күн бұрын
@benalamedaracing2765 well when I leak down my 632s they always test well even after 500 passes in one case . Not only that there's just no possible way to break in a race engine that the way you describe at the level that I'm running at . The cars aren't street legal and are usually only ran for about a minute and a half before we're pushing it back to the pits .
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
@@petemcpeterson6205 I have never met a good dyno/engine shop knowing the engine is fresh and go about going max pull immediately knowing the rings perhaps pistons or build just new or just got done! I am sure there are perhaps others who, do not care to break it in whatsoever but to tell you the truth I would stay as far from them as much as possible... Perhaps we are talking different scenarios here because a lot of my engines built for racing or even serious builds will not make 500 passes. Perhaps if it is a lot slower it may last very long but not at our level!
@petemcpeterson6205
@petemcpeterson6205 Күн бұрын
@@benalamedaracing2765 well I'm making over 1200 HP and it's gone 500 passes n/a. Besides it's not a Ford so I don't have to spin the things 10000 rpm to make power so it's going to be more reliable. 500 passes is the exception though ( and a personal record by a long shot) My engines probably have an hour or so run time on them before they hit the track but it's not any type of a loaded scenario just run time .
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
@@petemcpeterson6205 you are way better than I have accomplished with my BBC @ 540 wt. non- symmetrical heads (Brodix) making same amount of power runs 8.30's @ 3400# NA 1/4 mile. Your 632 will need more cam than probably what I run in it, and there is no way I can make even close to that many 1/8 runs without freshening it up! I can make many passes if I slowed it down big time and still not 500 runs! Obtw, "ALL" NHRA/IHRA Pro-Stock GM, Mopar and of course Ford runs a derivative of the 429 Boss semi-hemi and you will not even get anywhere close to winning with a canted valve/inline heads even with symmetrical ports of any type! And on T/F F/C Nitro of course it is a true Hemi version of the 426!
@panchopanera4600
@panchopanera4600 Күн бұрын
Been learning alot from you thanks
@benalamedaracing2765
@benalamedaracing2765 Күн бұрын
Thanks Pancho.
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