BEST WAY TO START HONDA XL600R 1983-1987 XL 600R! XR 600 XR600R KICKSTART

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NoNonsenseKnowHow

NoNonsenseKnowHow

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@8iggs
@8iggs 10 ай бұрын
Just bought an ‘85 and after struggling get it started I watched this vid and got it started in one kick! Thanks!
@rodneymunoz5166
@rodneymunoz5166 7 жыл бұрын
after the bee part i'm sold with the "you meet the nicest people on a Honda".
@bikerrider4845
@bikerrider4845 3 жыл бұрын
best way to start your bike, is to have someone else do it !?!
@fishfire_2999
@fishfire_2999 2 жыл бұрын
Right ? Those people on those Chinese bikes 🏍 just can't relate to .
@nomanslife
@nomanslife 4 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to see, how many folks just bought a Honda XL600R or similar...I did :-)
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah, and I figured this video would be a hit with people who just bought this bike. Can be a real pain to start until you get the technique down
@portlanbeckman9473
@portlanbeckman9473 4 жыл бұрын
Haha i’m currently the rookie trying to sort this out. Just got an ‘86 xl600r. Humbling beginning :)
@nomanslife
@nomanslife 4 жыл бұрын
I figured when the bike engine is warm, it starts best, when I give it just a bit throttle...not a lot, but it starts perfect the. So much fun!!!
@2010Rocrat
@2010Rocrat 5 жыл бұрын
Picked up an 1986 XL 600 last year,, nothing but a PIA to get started. I was thinking of selling it but after watching this, I tried your tips. First kick, I got a rumble,, a few more and it was running. Keeping it!! Wish I had known how useless the auto decompression was when I had my 85 XR 600 back in the day. Thanks
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome man! Glad it helped you out and great to hear you plan on keeping the bike
@tomparker962
@tomparker962 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@tomparker962
@tomparker962 2 жыл бұрын
I have the xr600r 1987 and I couldn't start it till I watched these videos 👍
@holeshot1721
@holeshot1721 3 жыл бұрын
Wow i just bought the 86xl600r that was sitting for 12 years mayby more but at least the guy also added a clarke big fuel tank! He also removed the kickstart cable! It has 2900 miles i rebuilt carbs then took it out and was like i dont need decomp im a champ!! Yeah nope that kickstart was not even moving! I was like let me check KZbin saw this video wall ahh 2 kicks your way and she was back to life! I was so happy!! Thank you
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 3 жыл бұрын
Heck yea man. Got yourself a good bike there. All in the technique for Kickstarter
@impalaSS65
@impalaSS65 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry about any rambling. A 4 min video doing what it's supposed to according to the title - 100% great video. Great bike too. Made me consider doing the same mod for my ttr600, the autodecomp is finicky. the choke is fie though.
@CamperKev
@CamperKev 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a new 1983 Honda XL600R in Sydney Australia. It was powerful and a joy to ride. After it's first service at the Honda dealer where I bought it, the bike would never idle for long without stalling. The Honda dealer could not fix it and Honda Australia ignored the problem back in those days. So after taking it to other Honda dealers and to a carburettor expert, no one could fix it. After months of misery, I sold the bike at a loss and never bought another Honda again. 😊
@JustALad
@JustALad 5 жыл бұрын
Best outro I've seen
@nikiwhatley845
@nikiwhatley845 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information! We just bought a 1986 Honda 600R !
@nikiwhatley845
@nikiwhatley845 5 жыл бұрын
Giuseppe Simonetti thank you ! We are still trying to get her running
@GiuseppeSimonetti
@GiuseppeSimonetti 5 жыл бұрын
@@nikiwhatley845 Wait still? What's wrong with it? They are usually easy to fix up and get started. If you need help I can give you some advice, I'll give you my facebook or whatever to contact me. I'm not a mechanic but I grew up around these bikes
@nikiwhatley845
@nikiwhatley845 5 жыл бұрын
Giuseppe Simonetti that’s would be awesome!! Well for starters we have to replace the fuel line is was old and dry rotted . But it tries to start
@kextrz
@kextrz Жыл бұрын
I have a couple things I want to share. One might still be relevant. One might give off the vibe I once were a complete idiot (hopefully I improved since). I had a Yamaha XT 350. Easy to start. Except...The automatic decompression cable linked to the kick starter got misajusted over time. Unlike the XL 600 (I think), the cable pulled up one of the two exhaust valves. That valve kept being slightly opened at all time. Said valve over heated, valve seal no longer sealed. Minimal amount of oil seeping down transformed the bike into a fumigating device. All this to say that disconnecting the cable as is recommended in the video might be a good advice.
@ricojakkakarico-che2561
@ricojakkakarico-che2561 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the rambling as well as the info I stopped by for, great job man!
@dietermeyer9231
@dietermeyer9231 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 1999 NX650 Dominator, but it has an electric starter. Always starts on first stroke of piston, no choke when it is on the hottest summerdays here in Norway and when I use it is is only halfway. Sometimes I just touch the starter-button and then it is running. I had a 2000 Yamaha TT600R with a faulty decompression mechanism. The trick there was to step on the kick-starter until the compression was out and the piston just had passed TDC. Then you could get the kickstarter all the way to the top again and then step down hard. Then all the internal had so much speed/momentum and it started up on the next compression stroke.
@TheBmxracer24
@TheBmxracer24 6 жыл бұрын
Dieter Meyer my dad has a 88 nx650. Sweet bikes
@SkidmoreRacing
@SkidmoreRacing 6 жыл бұрын
I have an 88 nx650 and my auto decompressor malfunctioned and left me on the side of the road. I ended up taking the decompressor out, and in stock form i never had any problems with the bike not wanting to start and it idled better.
@sory4beinanonymous
@sory4beinanonymous 4 жыл бұрын
Mahalo. This is my first bike, still mastering the trick
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Big bike for your first bike! My first bike was a Honda Z50 and then a Suzuki ts185
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
Great bike though! I'm sure you'll fall in love with it. And yeah it's all about being one with her. Then she'll start up no problem every time
@drewyelle
@drewyelle 5 жыл бұрын
Hells ya. Original owner of an '86. Still on the road...
@martinpruckl8091
@martinpruckl8091 7 жыл бұрын
Man youre lovely and great!!! at to the end of your vid you grab this bee from the floor...that is whats my dad always said..a mankind whos respects a animal...respect himself...reading between the letters.i love people who respect live.God bless you and your family!!!!
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 7 жыл бұрын
Martin Prückl, Thank you for your comment and I'm glad to hear you have great values! Thanks!
@martinpruckl8091
@martinpruckl8091 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Your Answere! And Allways be healthy and a very cool Life 😎 Best Wishes from Bavaria!
@kmann1430
@kmann1430 2 жыл бұрын
I have an 85 xl350,bought it new in 86 love it.
@markbrandon7359
@markbrandon7359 2 жыл бұрын
My 1983 had a warning sticker on the tank "do not open throttle while staring" I did that once and darn near broke my ankle. I never messed with the decompression valve the auto one works fine the main tip is to turn the idle up a bit the screw has an extra large head easy to turn by hand this also helps with starting when the motor is hot
@James-qq2vq
@James-qq2vq 3 жыл бұрын
So glad you didn't kill that bee!
@automan1223
@automan1223 5 жыл бұрын
Part of today's problem is lack of good fuel for these older bikes. It goes stale so quickly. Even the ethanol free is low octane.. Those who race these older bikes recommend VP Racing Fuel, they have dozens of types but the local motocross guys swear by the T4 type fuel .
@he478
@he478 Жыл бұрын
Spider bike. Spider bike.
@MUDmotoTRIP
@MUDmotoTRIP 5 жыл бұрын
I see there are so many XL LM components. you could mount LM motor with electric start. great medium! Greetings from Italy
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 5 жыл бұрын
I have yet to find any LM Parts here in the United States. I always wanted to find the larger fuel tank and body work. Do you see the body work for sale regularly in your neck of the woods? For an LM
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 5 жыл бұрын
And I personally prefer the Kickstart. At least while my knees are still good. LOL. Greetings from USA.
@MUDmotoTRIP
@MUDmotoTRIP 5 жыл бұрын
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow of course, the kick start engine is lighter. spare parts for Honda XL R and LM are also very popular here in Italy :)
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 5 жыл бұрын
@@MUDmotoTRIP cool, I'll have to take a look on the eBay for Italy or some other websites. Would love to get my hands on an LM tank for sure. Clark tank does the job for now though
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 5 жыл бұрын
@@MUDmotoTRIP just checked out your channel. Pretty sweet videos! Subscribed
@Pykisiky
@Pykisiky 8 жыл бұрын
Cool with the little bee!
@500Magnum
@500Magnum 5 жыл бұрын
Good vid. I got a 1990 xr600r and 1995 xl650 great bikes but you'll never start them if you don't know how!
@sorrygunsathome
@sorrygunsathome 2 жыл бұрын
It's a Honda always cold even in the summer haha
@andyvanherwynen4866
@andyvanherwynen4866 2 жыл бұрын
I have an 83 XL600R with no decomp lever, only the cable from the kicker to the head. May take a few kicks but I can start it. But, you HAVE to get it on the compression stroke to kick it.
@felipao007i
@felipao007i 2 жыл бұрын
you got me being nice with the bee
@dariobrzovic8577
@dariobrzovic8577 7 жыл бұрын
u're same like me, driving xl600r and rescuing honeybees , only i rescue bumblebees more hahahah, mine is 1986 xl600r also troubles starting sometimes
@existanze1637
@existanze1637 Жыл бұрын
Useful to know although I have the XL600 LM version which has electric starter you never know.
@markgreen1619
@markgreen1619 2 жыл бұрын
looks and sounds like a great bike
@joski9030
@joski9030 5 жыл бұрын
Best way to star an xl 600 A match 🔥
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 5 жыл бұрын
lmao!
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 5 жыл бұрын
Most guys quickly mastered starting their XL..but now let's speak of the REAL issue! HOT STARTING
@chrisursogmail
@chrisursogmail 4 жыл бұрын
Jo Ski I just got a 89 600r. Last ran 15 years ago when my wife's grandpa stored it. Excited to clean it uo
@64maxpower
@64maxpower 4 жыл бұрын
That bike is like a trusty Golden Retriever
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah man for sure!
@user-dw2tm3jm5h
@user-dw2tm3jm5h 4 жыл бұрын
My 95 600R is cold natured, has a factory decomp
@gravityalwayswins1434
@gravityalwayswins1434 4 жыл бұрын
very cool about the honeybee. subbed
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Appreciate that
@ansdrifter
@ansdrifter 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Yes i have also cold start issues even with 25c temperature outside. I will take the risk and do the modification on air choke inside carb. I tried everything coil spark plug carb rebuilt air filter fresh fuel.... somedays she never start at all....... please any advise is welcome.
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help. Did you do the choke mod yet? Any luck?
@ansdrifter
@ansdrifter 4 жыл бұрын
No i didnt do the modification but i ordered cdi since it was out of measurements manual suggest
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
Oh okay awesome. Hopefully that rectified the issue. Let me know how you make out with it
@ansdrifter
@ansdrifter 4 жыл бұрын
Ok for sure thank you sir
@georgekefallinos8120
@georgekefallinos8120 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video i have a xr 650 and its about the same way to start :)
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man and sweet, what year? XR650L?
@georgekefallinos8120
@georgekefallinos8120 4 жыл бұрын
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow 2005
@georgekefallinos8120
@georgekefallinos8120 4 жыл бұрын
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow its the 650r
@georgekefallinos8120
@georgekefallinos8120 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYe3qqWffpWirJo
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
@@georgekefallinos8120 oh gotcha. nice!
@Hastpokvit
@Hastpokvit 2 ай бұрын
hey, do u still have this bike, its amazing if u still have it, if u do, iam just interested how many pistons and cylinders have you gone trough ? 15 years is a long time for a 1 bike
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 2 ай бұрын
Yes I still have it. I rebuilt the top end once. I don't ride it often. I ride my Africa twin mostly
@rickallman1318
@rickallman1318 4 жыл бұрын
2 questions. 1.) Where do you find a rear rack like yours. I have '87. 2.) With Clarke plastic gas tank, what's best way to create attatchment points for tank bunge cord?
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure who made that rack. I got it off of a 1983 that I bought to flip. Hard to find aftermarket parts for these old XL anymore
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
As far as the bungee cord attachment, really just kind of hooked on the frame and wherever else made sense
@rickallman1318
@rickallman1318 4 жыл бұрын
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow Wow that waa a quick reply! Thanks! Found somebody that's making the racks. Ordered one on ebay earlier today.
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
@@rickallman1318 nice! Good luck with the rack.
@rickallman1318
@rickallman1318 4 жыл бұрын
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow I'll try to post a link & pict using my laptop later today for others to see.
@BosephusBigelsworth
@BosephusBigelsworth 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting, super helpful.
@fishfire_2999
@fishfire_2999 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video man good stuff
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 6 жыл бұрын
On Amazon: *MICRO DRILL BIT SET(for carb mod): amzn.to/2RCqzgW ~My Other XL600R Videos: kzbin.info/aero/PLzHrOnZsmED_s835cBzItr-fSiYJRNsFb
@SpaseGoast
@SpaseGoast 6 жыл бұрын
Do you know where I can find a guide on how to do it?
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpaseGoast sorry never saw this comment. No I'm not sure if there's any guides on it anywhere online
@64maxpower
@64maxpower 4 жыл бұрын
I respect you didn't squish the bee. How did you know he wouldn't sting you?
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
Honey bees are not aggressive usually. I have a honey bee hive in my backyard so I'm pretty used to handling them. I can open the hive without a bee suit on and they will usually not sing me.
@RatgenerationX
@RatgenerationX 2 жыл бұрын
nice work... with the bee oh and cool video about the bike
@SkidmoreRacing
@SkidmoreRacing 6 жыл бұрын
Hey bud im not too familiar with these motors and im curious about what the square cover is on the left side of the jug in front of the fuel valve?
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 6 жыл бұрын
Thats an empty box. I believe it was used for 5th valve system on earlier models.
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know much about the earlier system. But it was some kind of decompression system
@manic_tinkerer
@manic_tinkerer 5 жыл бұрын
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow Its the secondary chamber for the decompressor on the early years, the 5th valve opens this chamber to the combustion chamber, dropping the compression ratio by the extra volume in the side chamber so you could kick it over easier. Theyre a pain in the arse with the seats breaking and sticking causing low compression so even early bikes you often find with a welded plug instead of the valve by now. Not that the bike needs it to start with it anyway, typical honda over-complication.
@psp2005
@psp2005 2 жыл бұрын
12 years! Must be a good bike.
@PrajayBShah
@PrajayBShah 2 жыл бұрын
How did you Install disc brake on rear wheel?? 😳
@codyvoorhees3707
@codyvoorhees3707 3 жыл бұрын
What is the rear fender from? Looking to change out my stock fender
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 3 жыл бұрын
I forget. I just ordered a universal one on eBay that looked good. It doesn't say a brand on it.
@osalcedoucmsae
@osalcedoucmsae 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought an 85 XL600R and I think it’s gonna need some work. Last owner said it would run ok but I can’t get it to turn on easily or run for more than 20sec when it did run. I’ll try your tips here on the compression lever. Quick question, my bike has a bunch of stuff under the carbs, I noticed yours doesn’t
@osalcedoucmsae
@osalcedoucmsae 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know what those systems are? Thanks
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
Got you, that's cool. It might just need a carburetor clean as well. And I'm not sure what you are referring to under the carbs. The only thing mind has under the carbs is an oil breather container
@osalcedoucmsae
@osalcedoucmsae 4 жыл бұрын
NoNonsenseKnowHow oh ok, there’s a plastic cylinder laying horizontally under the carb, slightly larger than the oil breather you mentioned(2:56 in the video). I also have oil coming out of the tailpipe:/ you got my sub man, great videos! I hope these will help me find the issue hah thanks
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
@@osalcedoucmsae gotcha. I'm not sure about the horizontal cylinder. Maybe somebody added that. Not familiar with the 1985 model that much though. Oil out of the tailpipe is no good though for sure. Definitely tried to address what's going on there. Check for proper oil level, proper oil breather operation. Possible you have bad exhaust valve seals, or a cylinder/ piston issue. Could be endless things really. Thanks, appreciate the subscribe.
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
@@osalcedoucmsae if you look through my latest videos, I did a video on the timing chain tensioner for this bike too. And freshened mine up a little bit paint wise
@CBRRR-eh3ky
@CBRRR-eh3ky 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like witchcraft to me. Sometimes mine starts just fine, other time, nothing. I feel this tdc every 4 kick but it fails to start on one of them. Whats the trigger
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
The trigger is a decompression valve. And it's all about the feel. Got to become one with your bike
@rickallman1318
@rickallman1318 4 жыл бұрын
Also you talked about doubling the size of the jet on the left carb's bowl. You also provided a link to order a mini drill bit set. What's the size of the one & which set?
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
I don't remember the exact drill number but I did do a separate video on this and it covers exactly what side to use. Go to my main Channel and type in xl600r carb mod. It should pop up
@rickallman1318
@rickallman1318 4 жыл бұрын
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow Ok, thanks.
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
no prob!
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 Жыл бұрын
anyone that tries this I would go VERY gradual find the bit that fits existing perfect and go up one size depending on drill assortment ...a small assortment the next one up could be WAY bigger whereas a BIG set of bits the next one up might be hardly anything. ...know what I mean? Be CAREFULL! You can always drill holes larger but never smaller
@skarekr0w3
@skarekr0w3 5 жыл бұрын
I've been fighting my '87 for over a year now. It already broke my ankle last year, and I'm back at it. I have no idea what is going on, no one seems to. Everyone is telling me the same ol every possible problem it could be, I have heard it all, done most of it. Tried 3 different spark plugs, 2 dfferent coils, replaced the head on one of the coils, pulled the carb and cleaned it out, re inspected it 11 times now, drained out the oil to look inside the case 4 times now, did the valves 4 times due to multiple different people giving different gap information, or not being clear, I have gone over electrical, replaced connectors, I just can't win, it refuses to start. Has compression, spark and good fuel, and we did get it running last month, then it just stopped again. I used carb cleaner to start it today, it backfired, and caught my airbox on fire. I should have let it burn to the ground. It would have been less stress, less work, and a lot more fun.
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 5 жыл бұрын
Damn, that sucks. I'm sorry to hear you've had a rough experience with this bike. My guess would be that one of the cams is maybe wiped or out of time
@skarekr0w3
@skarekr0w3 5 жыл бұрын
I thought I responded a year ago. It still does not run. My ankle is healed now, but I'm giving it another push. It ran last month for my friend, but refuses to run for me. The bike hates me. I don't know why. Her previous owner put her in a backyard to die from rust. I took her to doctors, bought her new parts, I'm trying to save her life and she still wants me dead.
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 5 жыл бұрын
@@skarekr0w3 oh yes now I remember. If you think the bike is cursed or something, maybe it's time to move on to a different one or get an xrl that has the electric start. Certainly not worth breaking your ankle again or anything like that. Any interest in selling the bike? I'm in Pennsylvania how about you?
@skarekr0w3
@skarekr0w3 5 жыл бұрын
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow Ooooooh...... electric start... No, I am going to start feeling old and using the electric shopping carts at box stores. I'm not that old. Not admitting it anyway. Cursed, no, it's evil. There's a difference. she's on my channel, the channel is pretty much dedicated to her. And me a year later trying to bring her back to life despite her relapses. I haven't given up, but there isn't a lot of information on these, only a few people like you show anything about XR600-650R's. And the information on specs and gaps are usually incorrect, do to many different years and 87 600R is NOT a 82 300R... Very few people know these bikes, no one documents them, no one wants to kick them over, no one wants anything to do with them "It's too much bike"... I'm in Washington, and no she is not for sale. I paid for her with money, blood, sweat, tears, time, pain and broken bones.
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 5 жыл бұрын
@@skarekr0w3 gotcha. Well it's great that you're attached and have a romance with the bike. I hope things pull through and you can conquer her. I'll be looking forward to seeing a future video when you do so. My XL has recently started making some slight engine noises. I'll be documenting and redoing the top end this winter
@LukeChillen
@LukeChillen 7 жыл бұрын
im looking at a bike with the same sort of plug setup on the cam chain tensioner shaft. Is that totally normal for these bikes? is there anything that should concern me? Cheers
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 7 жыл бұрын
LukeChillen totally normal
@evan1822
@evan1822 8 жыл бұрын
it looks like it deserves a rebuild
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 8 жыл бұрын
yes you're right. I rebuilt the engine 12 years ago and I'm probably going to rebuild it again this winter. But otherwise the bike is tight as can be. Don't let its looks fool you.
@andrewclark5991
@andrewclark5991 23 күн бұрын
Do you have any idea why my XR600 would kick back at me anytime I try to start it with the choke on? I've checked the timing and it was good. I even got it to start once. It will kick over normal without the choke, and of course it won't start without it. but as soon as I put that choke on, I jump on it and it just kicks right back 100% of the time
@ede6466
@ede6466 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, i have a question, what is the temperature of oil when you ride long travel (30 miles for example)? My XR go to 120°C after 15 miles? Thanks
@lawrencewalraven5137
@lawrencewalraven5137 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I just bought the same bike yesterday and the hard starting is my only complaint. Do you remember what size drill bit you used?
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 6 жыл бұрын
No prob man. And unfortunately I don't remember the exact drill size. I would recommend getting a micro drill bit set like the one in the description of this video. And then step it up a few sizes at a time till you get it where it needs to be
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 6 жыл бұрын
You may just have a dirty carburetor or dirty clogged choke circuit to though so I would check that first
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 5 жыл бұрын
most people got rid of em for one reason ....BITCH to start! Especially once hot
@richardvalitalo3670
@richardvalitalo3670 3 жыл бұрын
Could also be the stator. Put a rickys stator in. Mine came with it.
@mikerafonemusic6177
@mikerafonemusic6177 7 жыл бұрын
sounds good! but i think u could use a powerwasher..
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 7 жыл бұрын
Haha, the worst part is I own a pressure washer! Honestly the only time I pressure wash my bike since just prior to doing servicing or major work to them. Otherwise I just let the occasional rain that I ride through a wash all the dirt off.
@chowmurphy
@chowmurphy 6 жыл бұрын
Hey there, I just bought a 1983 XL600R. I was wondering if you knew if this year of the bike came with a keyed ignition?
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 6 жыл бұрын
Murphy Chow yes as far as I know all 83 to 87 came with a key to ignition. They are phenomenal bike! I think you'll fall in love!
@chowmurphy
@chowmurphy 6 жыл бұрын
Is there any chance I could get a video of your dash board for you bike, if it s complete? I think there is more missing than I am aware of. If you have the time, Id appreciate a slow video of your bike dash area and the key and the rest of the bike. I want to do a tear down and repaint everything bring it back to stock.
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 6 жыл бұрын
Murphy Chow I would think if you look up some pictures on eBay that should be sufficient. Find a picture of the Triple Tree two so you can see if your mounts are there. Mine is actually a relatively custom setup because I have triple trees and front forks from an XR650L
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 6 жыл бұрын
Murphy Chow maybe this other video I have will help some? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGfJiJKjot2Cpsk
@matiasramonot5321
@matiasramonot5321 8 ай бұрын
what rack is that on the rear fender?
@coltacp8451
@coltacp8451 7 жыл бұрын
NoNonsenseKnowHow i pulled both decompression cables and still no compression. i think it burnt an intake valve i hear the compression leaking through the air box. pretty cool park a perfectly running bike and go out a month later to ride it and it has burnt valves...have you ever heard of anybody putting like a 93 XR650L engine in one of these older XL frames?
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 7 жыл бұрын
colt ACP that's pretty uncommon for these engines to burn or break a valve. What year is your bike? The earlier ones had a 5th valve in the head that was used for decompression. And I haven't personally seen somebody put a 650 motor in this bike. But I'm sure it could be done as they are extremely similar. I would personally just pick yourself up and XR650L since you can get them pretty cheap. And then you already have the upgraded suspension and brakes. I upgraded my xl600r with suspension and wheels from an XR650L.
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 7 жыл бұрын
colt ACP you should also check your timing marks and make sure it didn't jump time or anything like that as well. Stray some oil in the cylinder and see if that helps build any compression as well
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 7 жыл бұрын
colt ACP oops I just mistakenly removed your last comment. LOL. I would start by pulling the valve adjusting caps and checking the valve clearance/valve operation. And yeah since yours is an early model, I think you have the fifth valve in the head. I've heard of problems with those and that's why they got rid of them. Keep me updated as to what you find. I'm very curious
@coltacp8451
@coltacp8451 7 жыл бұрын
i did check the valve clearances and the intake side is a little loose i can fit the .004 feeler into the intake side but loose wouldn't create compression loss tight would right. yes i just figured out mine has the fifth valve in it and they say mine has a reed valve also...according to my Clymer it says only XR models had the reed valve WTF lol crazy
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 7 жыл бұрын
colt ACP yeah tight valves for a sticking valve would cause a compression loss. Next Step would be to do a leak down test and see which valve is leaking or if it's leaking past the piston
@tmracing_0639
@tmracing_0639 3 жыл бұрын
Which exaust do you have?
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 3 жыл бұрын
An older supertrapp
@tmracing_0639
@tmracing_0639 3 жыл бұрын
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow thank you
@JustinKork
@JustinKork 4 жыл бұрын
This guy sounds like Rick Sanchez lmao
@xXLegendXx70
@xXLegendXx70 3 жыл бұрын
How many km or miles have your bike driven? And have u done any engine rebuild or new cylinder or anything like that? Very good video. I have a XL350R from 84 that has driven 51000km. It runs very good, and I dont know if it have had any engine rebuild done but I am thinking about doing it and put a new cylinder in it.
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 3 жыл бұрын
Mine has around 20,000 mi on it. I replaced the piston rings and honed the cylinder around 8,000 mi. Not that it needed it, I was just in my high school class and he let me bring the engine in and take it completely apart and put it back together for a little project
@coltacp8451
@coltacp8451 7 жыл бұрын
when you removed the decompressor from the kickstart is it just removing the cable? do i have to do anything with the arm going into the cylinder head?
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 7 жыл бұрын
colt ACP yep. Just remove the cable and that's it. Keep it handy in case you ever want to put it back on
@coltacp8451
@coltacp8451 7 жыл бұрын
cool, i think mine is hanging up causing starting issues. i rode 3 weeks ago no problems then yesterday no start and i can tell its lacking its normal compression it don't have its usual hard spot on the kick at TDC. so i will start with that one and if it still doing the same thing i will disconnect the top one on the bar and see what happens. thanks for the reply
@michaelweingand4742
@michaelweingand4742 4 жыл бұрын
My 83 xl600r will not start when warmed for more than two minutes. It’s starts great when cold. One kick. Any advise as to why this is doing that?
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
Are you choking it when trying to start it when warm?
@cplsanders69
@cplsanders69 4 жыл бұрын
Did you just say don’t twist the throttle more than C*nt hair 😂😂😂😂😂 I spat out laugher hearing that!!
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
haha yea. That was a phrase that an old-timer I once worked with used. I try to refrain from using it these days because I feel like it could be slightly offending to some. But yeah sometimes "a cunt hair" is the only phrase that will do.
@cplsanders69
@cplsanders69 4 жыл бұрын
NoNonsenseKnowHow I love it, I pick up many weird phrases from older people I’ve helped and worked with. Yours is pretty solid I like it. I may try to use it outside of the work place military is VERY sensitive now 😅. My buddy his wife was cheating on him and when he was telling me the story (about kicking her out) he said, “sometimes ya just boot’er in the qooter” as kick her to the curb 😂 yours was on that level 😂 thank you for that!
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 5 жыл бұрын
Starting cold has never been the problem ....To be honest when hot? A lot of (MOST) times? You are just SCREWED....for ME? was an impossible bike to live with on a daily basis ... I did commute on one for a while and it was fine ...was cold in the AM leaving for work and cold in the PM leaving for home ...started right up no trouble ...but DAMN I could not stop anywhere once warmed up and have ANY confidence I could restart the damned thing! And too much engine to even think about push starting alone....these bikes should have had an E start button from day one ..PERIOD...from DAY ONE ...IMHO....btw other than the hot start debacle? I LOVED my old eighty three XL! When did Honda put the E-button on them? I feel like the starting issue was likely the reason they went to two carbs?? BTW other than the starting issue? Was one of my all time favorite commuter/play motorcycles! Whoever designed this bike just NAILED it for wheelies and fire roads antics ....I looked like a pro wheelie King on this bike! I could just hold indefinitely and even shift gears lofted! phenomenal! I'd almost like to buy a nice used one and convert it to Estart....maybe upgrade the suspension and front brake
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 5 жыл бұрын
Fool proof all temperature starter fix! Involves one assmeply and less than a minute to install. Step one unscrew fuel tank cap and dislodge breather tube. Roll the kick-start only version out from under hoisted cap ...Now? Simple just roll a complete (minus cap) XR650L assembly, lower the cap screw down to torque setting of 8.5 ft pounds and now just insert the breather tube into fork yoke stem hole ....VIOLA! Bike FIXED! Now it will start cold or hot
@MrPartyplopper
@MrPartyplopper 7 жыл бұрын
you sound a bit like rick, of rick and morty
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 7 жыл бұрын
`2Strokeboy` it's really funny you commented that because my buddy just said the same thing about me last night when I was explaining something to him. LOL
@JohnErikjohansson
@JohnErikjohansson 5 жыл бұрын
LOL, yes
@JohnErikjohansson
@JohnErikjohansson 5 жыл бұрын
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow hah so funny :P
@octavehiblot2462
@octavehiblot2462 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these explanations! I personnaly have trouble starting mine, what did you say you did with your jet? You "drilled it out"? Does it litteraly mean you pierced through to enlarge it?:o Main jet or slow jet?
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 5 жыл бұрын
If you remove the fuel bowl on the left side carb. (port in boating terms) lol. Then you will see a small jet toward the bottom of the fuel bowl. That's your choke circuit jet. They are notorious for getting clogged up. That's the one I drilled out a little bit
@octavehiblot2462
@octavehiblot2462 5 жыл бұрын
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow Port haha! I got you!;) Primary carb so, that's ok! I'm not sure I got it though, it's neither the main jet(1.08mm) or the slow jet(0.65mm) you drilled? I must check that out once disassembled beacause my choke doesn't do jack sh*t when i wanna start my bike! It actually tends to shut it off!:D
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 5 жыл бұрын
@@octavehiblot2462 yes it's neither the main or slow. It's an actual choke circuit jet built into the float Bowl
@octavehiblot2462
@octavehiblot2462 5 жыл бұрын
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow OK I think I got it! Must check that little fellow then!;) Thanks for your quick answers Sir!
@oupootpoot8661
@oupootpoot8661 8 жыл бұрын
That XL is it a 87? i have a 83 they are awesome bikes dont let them die keep riding it!!!!
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 8 жыл бұрын
1986! same here I was born! Yes they are the best! I'll never sell it. thanks for watching
@oupootpoot8661
@oupootpoot8661 8 жыл бұрын
haha i was born also in 83 same year as my bike i only have owned my bike for two years know :)
@oupootpoot8661
@oupootpoot8661 8 жыл бұрын
i need a new tank how is that Clark working for you??
@pastandpresentmetaldetecti1438
@pastandpresentmetaldetecti1438 2 жыл бұрын
hey there just found your video, Awesome sounding xl, would this work on an 86 xl600r ? had one through the 90s with the kick decomp cable and sold it 20 years ago just reacquired another 86 last week to use as a daily rider but ill be damned if i can figure out the hand set up on this one lol guy removed the lower cable so just hand like yours, any ideas to make it kick over easier would be greatly appreciated ! thanks
@timventers742
@timventers742 5 жыл бұрын
Not realise where the choke is until now.
@Woodys_Wisdom
@Woodys_Wisdom 8 жыл бұрын
Why does the bike show no difference when you turn the choke off immediately after starting it? You can't just shut my choke off like that after starting it. I have a xr650l
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 8 жыл бұрын
we1dont7die well if you listen closely when I shut the choke off there is a noticeable difference. But to answer your question, I went up one size on the slow jet in the left carburetor. these bikes were getting very lean from the factory to meet regulations and that's part of the reason they were problematic to start for consumers.
@jackmichael9606
@jackmichael9606 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, can you recommend a Honda store where I can buy parts and accessories for my 1984 Honda XL600R? Because I live in the Philippines, it is better if the parts store will have an email address. Whatever, hope you can help me out with a Honda parts store for my XL600R.
@fredericraymond648
@fredericraymond648 4 жыл бұрын
i must say, your bike looked far from mint, but the engine idles perfectly and the engine is not Noisy. Cant judge a book by its cover as they say..
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah she was looking pretty rough. But I always keep my bikes mechanically tight. Never too worried about cosmetics in any of my vehicles I did however freshen her up a little bit because the timing chain started making noise. Check out my latest xl600r video and you'll see she cleans up pretty well.
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
Here's the video kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXy2aKNujaqSrpY
@GrahmDettling
@GrahmDettling 6 жыл бұрын
Hey man how much did you drill out your choke jet? Do you know what size drill bit you used? I have got my bike to start but it's being a big turd and won't start for anything now
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 6 жыл бұрын
Grahm Dettling to be honest with you it was many years ago. But if I remember right I basically doubled its size. Get yourself a micro set of drill bits and step it up a few sizes at a time would be my suggestion.
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 6 жыл бұрын
I added a link in the description to the drill bit kit I used. Let me know what size you end up using and how it works out. Sorry I didn't have the size I used documented.
@GrahmDettling
@GrahmDettling 6 жыл бұрын
NoNonsenseKnowHow hey man I found out that it's actually getting too much fuel at first and flooding out so I just don't use the choke at all but it's still massively hard to get to start. Once it starts it runs great. I think it may be a compression issue because if I spray a little oil in the cylinder it seems to start after a few kicks. I just recently did a bore and new 101mm piston and new valves have been lapped in. I have spark as well. Not sure what could be the issue at this point
@GrahmDettling
@GrahmDettling 6 жыл бұрын
Also is it possible for you to kick your bike over without pulling the decompression lever. I can stand on mine and bounce and it won't budge without the lever pulled in.
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 6 жыл бұрын
Grahm Dettling have you done a compression check on it and then after putting oil in it as well?
@skarekr0w3
@skarekr0w3 6 жыл бұрын
My XR 600R kicked back an broke my ankle. What would cause that? I've been told a ton of things. Miswired headlight, CDI, Stator, bad coil, timing is off... How do I track this down, I'm not giving up. I broke my ankle in 2 places and have been down for over a month now. And with everything I have been through, I haven't even gotten to ride it =(
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 6 жыл бұрын
Eric Ek damn man I'm really sorry to hear that! Yes it could really be so many things causing the kickback. Even something as simple as not giving it a really solid firm kick following through with it. If you give it a pussyfoot kick, sometimes they can kick back. Without looking at it, it's really hard to take guesses as to what the problem could be
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 6 жыл бұрын
Eric Ek I will say that the hardest kick back I ever had and one that almost broke my ankle was on my 1995 KLR 250. The problem ended up being a worn out intake camshaft lobe. So the intake valve was closing too soon, and for some reason cause the really nasty kick back. I finally did get it started, but I could hear all the tapping in the top end period after repairing the camshaft never had the problem again
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 6 жыл бұрын
Eric Ek I would start by verifying your camshaft timing. And do a Google search to find out if other people have had similar problems
@skarekr0w3
@skarekr0w3 6 жыл бұрын
I've googled the crap out of it. There is very little information. KZbin was where I heard the Headlight was a thing,someone was having kick back problems and said it was the headlight. The Headlight was something I did, as the headlight was disconnected when I got it. I didn't think you could get the wires wrong, nor did I think Honda would make a very very dangerous situation for anyone who takes the light off... The thing is it does fight you to start. I can't tell if it's electrical or mechanical.
@skarekr0w3
@skarekr0w3 6 жыл бұрын
I should have been wearing boots, that might have saved my ass.
@rickallman1318
@rickallman1318 4 жыл бұрын
I should have checked out this channel last summer. I have an '87 that's a nightmare to start. I'll do the mods you suggested! Do you have links to share for getting parts for these bikes? Also looking for Extra Capacity plastic gas tank that used to be available. Also looking for electric start mod! They "used to make" this mod! Obviousely these both are aftermarket! Totally respect your kindness towards bee on your floor. Unlike "Black Widows" & "Wasps", honey bees are a necessary insect. Not to be a party pooper, but when bees are found dazed looking on ground, it most often is the near the end of it's life cycle. I welcome any bee keepers' critique! Still, loved your compassion!Thanks for video!
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man , awesome to hear you found the video helpful. I usually use eBay and all of the general online motorcycle dealers for my parts. Whoever has it cheapest. The 4.3 gallon tank that I have is made by Clark. But I don't know if they make them anymore for this unfortunately
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
And yeah I am definitely a huge be lover! I'm sure you're right about him being at the end of his life though. Oh well, it felt good to show him a little love. :)
@rickallman1318
@rickallman1318 4 жыл бұрын
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow I hear you.
@rickallman1318
@rickallman1318 4 жыл бұрын
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow Clark.com? Do you remember the whole name? Still it looks like you pointed me in the right direction, with name & size in gallons. Thanks!
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
@@rickallman1318 Clarke Try justgastanks.com
@robertweitlauf4653
@robertweitlauf4653 2 жыл бұрын
auto decompression is different then the one on the handle bars
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 2 жыл бұрын
It goes to the same lever. Manual decompression is better i m o
@robertweitlauf4653
@robertweitlauf4653 2 жыл бұрын
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow not on my 84 xl600r it goes to the rear center of the valve cover. it has 2 compression releases 1 on kicker and one on handle bars
@walterkersting6238
@walterkersting6238 3 жыл бұрын
110’f full choke.
@richardballs8618
@richardballs8618 5 жыл бұрын
Push it down a hill
@backjackwards6024
@backjackwards6024 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile.... I'm 75 kicks later. My fucking leg is burning and my bike still won't start.
@bikernation136
@bikernation136 3 жыл бұрын
🤘👍
@haqepic7591
@haqepic7591 7 жыл бұрын
wait 1983 1987 FNAF
@carlcrasmussen
@carlcrasmussen 15 күн бұрын
Why in the world would you remove an automatic decompression lever that works perfectly? Not like you're saving weight removing the cable. Having to judge just how far past compression you're kicking and how much are pulling in the manual release seem like a lot of extra unnecessary nonsense. The only reason that manual is there according to my owner's manual was if you dumped the bike you can pull in the lever and kick it a few times to clear the bike out
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 15 күн бұрын
Much better without. Try it
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 15 күн бұрын
Almost like saying an automatic transmission is better than a manual?
@walterkersting6238
@walterkersting6238 3 жыл бұрын
Little snort of ether...
@robertocuervo1723
@robertocuervo1723 4 жыл бұрын
Wash that crap
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
Never.
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 4 жыл бұрын
check out my video that goes live in an hr. i washed it
@thomaswild9044
@thomaswild9044 5 жыл бұрын
This Dude is a mess
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 5 жыл бұрын
Can you elaborate a little bit? LOL
@unclequack5445
@unclequack5445 6 жыл бұрын
Dude you have ragged this bike out.
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 6 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by ragged out? This bikes been to Hell and back
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 6 жыл бұрын
I keep my vehicles maintained to a T. Not so much cosmetically though! LOL. I've travel in some pretty sketchy areas on pretty bikes before. Not fun. Much rather have a beat and worn in bike that has character
@unclequack5445
@unclequack5445 6 жыл бұрын
Yes I understand I like XRs and XLs I hate to see one get abused but it did sound good so you had to have kept the oil changed , no excessive engine noise. Cool Bike amigo.
@unclequack5445
@unclequack5445 6 жыл бұрын
OK and it's still running well right? That's a XL/XR for you just keep the oil clean and they run a long long time , I just hate to see one beat up I happen to like these bikes a lot.
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 6 жыл бұрын
@@unclequack5445 yeah mine might look like a beater, but certainly not the case. She runs like a top and I give her lots of lovin. I absolutely love these bikes as well. I do a whole lot more than change the oil, believe me.
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