Biblical Prophesies DEFINITELY Prove God! Right? | The Atheist Experience: Throwback

[@rico4170]

Forrest is one of my favorite hosts because he remains so respectful but absolutely destroys the theists while remaining his golden retriever energy 😂❤️❤️

[@eleanorgeorge7069]

No, not even a little bit. Like all atheists, Forrest is totally lost & clueless. The things he mentions are things HE HAS PERSONALLY NEVER SEEN. So all you atheists can STOP w/ the "certainty" attitude. We also notice that no atheist takes the lead in any discussion saying HERE IT IS! Because atheism is all lies and therefore, there will never be any factual SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME "evidence" at all presented. Atheism = delusion. The asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism continues to be INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS, because atheism is all lies.

[@Beacon80]

@@eleanorgeorge7069 Then call in when he's on the show.

[@wyldink1]

​@@Beacon80He's askeered!

[@lubrew5862]

Forrest remains respectful of the caller remains respectful. I have seen him get disrespectful, but each time it was someone being disrespectful to the hosts and just looking to pick a fight. But yeah, he does a great job of giving what he receives and at times being kinder than I would be.

[@rico4170]

@@lubrew5862 yes exactly he is really nice until you say something way out of line and need to be corrected

[@Caitlin_TheGreat]

Sincerely, Forrest going into teaching mode is the absolute best part of the video.

[@the.punchline33]

@@Caitlin_TheGreat Yeah, them going from literally laughing at him to having a sincere conversation is some positive whiplash that I really enjoyed.

[@rockpadstudios]

Every time I hear about evolution my understanding gets clearer. I was taught the earth was 6000 years old and when I was in college I took an archeology course and it was so clear the earth is very old ~4 billon years.

[@scottlarson1548]

But he doesn't realize that these people aren't calling in to be taught.

[@MasonHorn]

@@Caitlin_TheGreat anytime forest talks it’s the best part of the video. He’s absolutely brilliant in his was of politely and sternly debating. I wish I had a teacher like him in college/hs

[@cerisambrook7692]

I've understood evolution at a layman's level for decades, yet Forrest can still make it seem like I'm learning.

[@bobmudge4836]

He’d believe in vampires if they were mentioned in the Bible.

[@holgerlubotzki3469]

John 6:53-56, Jesus says: "Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day." Sounds like a vampire to me!

[@queuecee]

They believe in zombies. Jesus is a zombie. And the dead walked the streets of Jerusalem, according to the bible.

[@taco8951]

@@queuecee Honestly Jesus came back more like how a Vampire does. Those that despised him killed him and buried him. Then he resurrected from that. Pretty close to at least DND vampires depending on the setting. Though it also involves pacts with evil entities (So Satan in this context probably)

[@Beldiin]

@@taco8951 There's the hypothesis that Satan is the good guy in the story, so Jesus being connected to God fits better.

[@taco8951]

@@Beldiin I mean, Satan is an Angel, so him being good in a way would make sense. He's just an angel that was cast out by God(Don't remember the exact context)

[@GoodieWhiteHat]

Forrest is just so generous with his teaching and impartation. They don’t know how precious it is.

[@borthwrenblanston6632]

He's just another lost & clueless atheist. Forrest has ZERO ANSWERS and the atheist cult is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. IRREFUTABLE FACTS exist that prove God. Sorry pal, but a rock didn't come from a bang, get wet and produce the human being, 9 million DIFFERENT animals and 300,000 DIFFERENT plants.

[@unknownx7252]

Certainly helped me understand the why are there still monkey questions.

[@wyldink1]

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[@GenerationX-WingPodcast]

He went onto such detail, with kindness and honesty and simplified it for this person and in the end the caller was like.... nah. I would say it is wasted on him, but maybe it is just the seed he needed.

[@philojudaeusofalexandria9556]

pearls to pigs... Luckily we're here to try to salvage these gems of wisdom from the slop.

[@tekbarrier]

It's like whack-a-mole, they knock down one argument of his and he just brings up another one. He's completely dishonest.

[@goldenknight578]

That tends to be the norm for a lot of these apologists. James pretty much just went down the list of typical apologist topics in the hopes that he'd find one Forrest couldn't answer. Of course, even though Forrest had explanations for every topic he brought up, James completely ignored them and probably still claimed the win.

[@PsychoMuffinSDM]

Yeah, sometimes a person needs to go through most, if not all, of those arguments before they'll come around and realize that none of them held any water to begin with.

[@JJ-qo7th]

The closest you'll ever to an admission they were wrong is a Christian trying to change the subject.

[@Not_really]

@@JJ-qo7th Absolutely!

[@derkylos]

@@PsychoMuffinSDM Nah. By the time you get to the end of the list, they've forgotten the rebuttal to their first argument, so they can continue to believe it's a strong argument.

[@sirilay]

James didn't for a moment sound like an honest interlocutor. He just went into separate topic after separate topic, not responding to any of the flaws they brought up.

[@ihatespam2]

I wish he was a troll, but he is real! Wow

[@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral]

Well, what about this...

[@Igeltod]

ye im pretty sure he learned nothing that day and is still stuck in his belief

[@Enigmatic2099]

He tried to be honest he’s just extremely ignorant and indoctrinated. Also his Cognitive Dissonance prevents him from being rational. Lastly he can’t separate his bullshit beliefs from himself so he then gets offended like most Chr!st@rds

[@Titantr0n]

He listened for minutes on without interrupting. That's an instant pass in my book. And by the looks of it it was the first time his beliefs were seriously challenged; even more impressive. He did a great given the circumstances, get off your high horse you guys.

[@Lee_River]

21:40 This is what I love about Forrest. He engages with callers, and if he thinks they’re being honest he meets them where they are.

[@Titantr0n]

"...No pronouns given" Ok here we go.

[@Kellie08]

EVERY DAMN TIME! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ibelieveingaming3562]

Hahahaha

[@freakishuproar1168]

James thinks there are archaeological remains of the ark, I'd be astounded if James understands what pronouns are.

[@Beerglass1980]

When Forrest start talking about Biology, my friends, i feel sorry for the caller. IT'S ALL OVER.

[@eleanorgeorge7069]

Not even close. Forrest has ZERO ANSWERS and the atheist cult is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. IRREFUTABLE FACTS exist that prove God. Sorry pal, but a rock didn't come from a bang, get wet and produce the human being, 9 million DIFFERENT animals and 300,000 DIFFERENT plants.

[@t800fantasm2]

@@eleanorgeorge7069 "Forrest has ZERO ANSWERS" Feck off... He has zero answers that you are capable of even the tiniest understanding... Explaining things with crayons and glitter would still be too deep for you... "Sorry pal, but a rock didn't come from a bang, get wet a" Then why do YOU and only YOU ever mention it... Do you do it because you're afraid we might not think you are as stupid as you seem?

[@wyldink1]

​@@eleanorgeorge7069Since you're wrong about everything as a matter of principle, we see your desperate flailing as a covert admission that Forrest could run laps around you in his sleep. It's okay, Jimmy. In your own words, you're nothing important, and that's okay.

[@codeartha]

If Americans came from the British, how are there still British today?

[@dancedecker]

OMG 😮. I don't exist. Lol.

[@mauromendoza1854]

😂

[@TheSkyGuy77]

😂😆

[@JotheScientist]

I needed this simple line for my family lol. Thank you 😊

[@graemerose1616]

There is a train station in London, that proves Harry Potter is real.

[@topsyfulwell]

😂😂😂😂

[@Olyfrun]

Sure we haven't found Hogwarts yet, but I have faith

[@AbsurdlyGeeky]

It didn't want an honest conversation.

[@Kellie08]

And there are a bunch of books to prove it. God only has one book.

[@coreyjblakey]

it literally has a platform 9 and 3/4's hahahahah extra confirmed

[@WizardImp]

11:19 "How do you know that? Were you there?" The last refuge of the scoundrel. Bye bye....

[@Olyfrun]

Oh, he has refuges beyond that

[@MrStringybark]

""How do you know that? Were you there?" And, yet he showed he was incapable of applying that same objection to his own reasoning!

[@AbsurdlyGeeky]

We have written records of Biblical events happening, which we would expect if the Bible were a product of human imagination. We have no written records of Biblical events NOT happening, which we would expect if the Bible were a product of human imagination. Ergo, the Bible is a product of human imagination. As soon as God or Jesus shows up and confirms the truth of Biblical events, I'll change my mind and call them an asshole.

[@MrDalisclock]

James is no doubt a big Fan of Ken Ham

[@WizardImp]

@@MrDalisclock Oh, no doubt. But I was thinking more along the lines of Sye Ten Bruggencate. "How do you know that?" "How do you know that?" "How do you know that?" "How...?"

[@joshsheridan9511]

Were you there? The last argument of the dishonest apologist.

[@dieseljester3466]

Louis L'amour is fake!? LOL. My mom is going to be SOooooo sad that her entire leatherbound collection of his books no longer exists! /s 🤣😂🤣😂

[@joshsheridan9511]

If we came from dust, why is there still dust?

[@FullFrontalNerdity-e3z]

And why is all of it in my carpet?

[@steveanton763]

I've never heard that before. I'm guessing you didn't come up with that. My admiration if you did.

[@joshsheridan9511]

@@steveanton763 a bit of both. I got it from a post that read " if we come from clay, why is there still clay"

[@LOwens-xf8yo]

Love it! Although, the monkey question is different because our common ancestor with monkeys no longer exists. None of the monkeys living today were around when our early ancestors started evolving into their current species.

[@mauricedavis1740]

⁠​⁠@@LOwens-xf8yo none of your relatives living today were around when your great great great great great great great grandparents were living neither..

[@Theroha]

Around 17:00 it really becomes clear that the prophesies aren't prophesies; they're just observations.

[@dancedecker]

OMG 😲. I don't exist!! Lol.

[@AbsurdlyGeeky]

"The sun will rise tomorrow and you will give me $100." If one prophecy is true, the whole thing is true. I eagerly await your godly donations.

[@douglassmith6663]

Robin Hood is real Because Nottingham and sherwood Forest Excists 😂

[@crispymidget8531]

After hearing hundreds of these dishonest apologists, I simply trust theists less. Lying to themselves and others is just ingrained. Doesn't inspire trust ya know

[@jeffburton1326]

The whole time the argument of the bible being real because of all of the historical facts made me immediately think of "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Slayer" and then you brought it up before I could. The World is FULL of fictional books (and movies) that actually have historical facts but (as already mentioned) this does not mean vampires exist.

[@denisebaldwin9292]

Thank you for the clear and concise explanation of evolution! Very helpful!

[@borthwrenblanston6632]

Sorry, but there is no such thing as new anatomy differing from ancestry EVER! You certainly can't conduct a scientific experiment and SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATE EVOLUTION IN REAL TIME, but that goes for all atheist ideas; they've all been debunked in meticulous detail.

[@unknownx7252]

Yes, I'm 54, and Forrest helped me understand in a few minutes in a clear and concise way, evolution, and the Big Bang theory.

[@wyldink1]

​@@borthwrenblanston6632

[@goldenknight578]

@@unknownx7252 I think one of the biggest things that's difficult to get through to some of these creationists is trying to get them to understand that evolution and Big Bang cosmology are two completely different things.

[@gilleruadh]

I just love it when Forrest goes into Science Educator mode because he exudes such enthusiasm, you can't help but get drawn in.

[@jiubboatman9352]

As a kid in the 70's I recall reading about this new thing, plate tectonics. I'm a geologist.

[@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral]

James, what you don't know would fill warehouses

[@elisawhitman8526]

At least James wrapped up the call with a glimpse of honesty. He seemed to indicate that he believes what he does not because he thinks it’s true, but because it makes him feel good.

[@dubudubu2442]

i love when these just turn into a simple science lesson

[@cyberspinosaur1145]

It's embarrassing that, when I was Christian, I used the *exact* same 'How do we still have monkeys?!' argument. I never had anyone to explain anything different to me, even after almost a decade out of religion. So I'm genuinely grateful for how Forrest explained how we're cousins to monkeys. It makes so much more sense than the Bible

[@phoenixkingtheo]

Gotta love how after all the stuff Forrest and Jim explained, he just goes back to Pascal’s wager

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

it's going down the Playbook, line by line, avoiding to ever actually confront the points brought up by Forrest or Jim, just diverting to a new point. The lame thinker's Gish Gallop. Goalposts on FTL Spaceships.

[@decay79]

Ill say this much, if you are uneducated on these things, and you are willing to listen, there is few that are as good to take a talk with as Forrest :)

[@kriss3d]

Assassins creed does this. In the Ezio games. It have tons of references. Catarina Sforza. The Borgia. The locations and many many events that did take place. But the assassins creed is fiction. Built around historical facts.

[@queuecee]

The Bible is a fiction built around a little bit of historical facts. But it has way more plot holes than Assassin's Creed.

[@kriss3d]

@@queuecee Id say AC had less plot holes. Even in Genesis 1 and 2 god creates the same things more than one and in the wrong order.

[@MizzouRah78]

This was painful. As each topic was torn apart, he incessantly dismissed it and just went, "well, what about X thing?" And then ultimately just deduced to admitting he doesn't care what's true and would rather believe it because it makes him feel good. Wow!

[@matthewd9822]

"yeah but. yeah but. yeah but...."

[@TheSkyGuy77]

Special pleading, for the win 😂

[@arnoldfossman1701]

It bothers me that I will most likely end up in the ground rotting and nothing better, but it makes better sense to me than this god that has shown me no proof of it's existence.

[@JohnShultz-rd1ew]

People like james will cling Desperately to a Fictional story line that promises eternal life and james is so fearfull of death that he will swallow and support any type of fallacy to support his "immortality""...

[@wwlib5390]

@arnoldfossman1701 machines of flight were once just considered science fiction until Truth led the way to discovery. Your own confirmation bias prevents you from finding the Truth and the Way or hearing the Words of everlasting life. I urge you to get out of "Nazareth' and go where Jesus is welcomed and wanted that you may see for yourself what He is doing in other people's lives and recognize what He is doing in yours. John 3 16 invites you to know His love and promise. It's up to YOU to seek the Truth of that invitation.

[@dwightfitch3120]

@@wwlib5390Sorry,W, but I think you’ve got the confirmation bias thing turned around. Putting the cart after the horse, instead of in front, is the opposite of confirmation bias

[@arnoldfossman1701]

@@wwlib5390 I think you need to read your bible more completely. I used to be a Catholic and then I started reading the bible rather than just hearing the cherry picked verses that the priest decided to give us in his sermons. I even was in training to be an altar boy (I'm sure glad I got out before anything happened) but I started reading the bible with things in context. Now you throw Science Fiction at me and claim that I have conformation bias? Did you know that I read Science Fiction and Fantasy? I'm even a wannabee writer of the genre so don't try to tell me about the topic until you have read your historical (or hysterical) fantasy for yourself.

[@wwlib5390]

​@@dwightfitch3120 Whatever. My question was answered, and He blesses me daily with proof of His presence in MY life.

[@nicksykes4575]

First question I'd ask James's sky daddy, "how'd you manage to pack so much stupidity into one person!"

[@raldyg7780]

Right after he asked if spider man is real, it cut to a marvel ad. Perfect timing

[@marymegrant9438]

Nothing short of miraculous!

[@bunji_beans]

I love when Forrest goes into professor mode 🥰

[@MrG.42]

If most Americans originally emigrated from Europe, then why are there still Europeans? WTF?!!

[@LOwens-xf8yo]

Funny! Although technically not analogous. The shared ancestor between apes & humans doesn’t exist any more. Our ancestors started branching off and became modern monkeys & apes, including human apes.

[@mrhuman4049]

@@LOwens-xf8yo i think it's pretty accurate cuz people who colonized America don't exist now either

[@FullFrontalNerdity-e3z]

James tried every apologist card in the deck, and they all failed. At least in the end he was cool about being bashed to pieces. Will he think about all the stuff Forrest said? Probably not.

[@Beacon80]

And yet, he wasn't playing with a full deck. 😁

[@RUSH2112RUSH]

19:18 James "You and me, baby, ain't nothin' but mammals..." The Bad Touch: Bloodhound Gang. P.s I am aware of the next line but I didn't want James to get the wrong idea, though judging by his call many of his ideas are wrong.🙂

[@Beacon80]

NEPy thinks insisting that he never loses somehow means he never loses. I asked him what his metric for winning is, but he refused to answer, which means I can assign my own metric. Mine is quite simple. Whenever he claims that things are atheist ideas, or uses circular logic, or refuses to answer a questioning, that's a loss unsurprisingly, he loses a lot by this metric.

[@t800fantasm2]

" I asked him what his metric for winning is, but he refused to answer" I've asked him to show all the people that agree with him, how may of his posts get "likes" etc... He runs away... He is just a f**king mental case...

[@queuecee]

I've never lost to Mike Tyson. So I'm one of the greatest boxer alive. It's easy for NEPy to "win" when he's so great at running away like a scaredy-cat.

[@sharkrancher282]

What is NEP? I've tried Googling it, and found nothing.

[@TheOtterOnes]

Comforting lies are very powerful

[@solly119119]

Man, what a reminder how insidious religious indoctrination is. It seems like this poor guy has never talked to someone who questions him about his God on even a surface level. It's like he just accepted whatever his pastor told him and thought, "Works for me!"

[@profanepersonality]

That is 99% of religious people.

[@Trex100]

Shows like this stand as testament to the fact that beliefs can be so ingrained in some folks that no amount of reasoning and logic can help them to confront their silly ideas.

[@liftedmarco4976]

The Iliad mentions Troy, Troy was discovered. Therefore the Greek gods are real.

[@TiKallisti]

Hail Eris!

[@JakeStrange66]

I'm one minute in & sounds like this dude fell the Ron Wyatt scam. 😂😂😂😂

[@kriss3d]

More people believe in other religions than people believing in the Bible. So are you going to accept the hindu gods and the Quran?. No you're not.

[@tinamunch7413]

How great you are both to this man, and educating at the same time with respect! I’d have lost my temper long before he’d even made his second sentence! Admirable!

[@spoenk7448]

What even happens during US high school biology classes?

[@N7_Jedi]

This was years ago for me, quite a few years, but in mine my teacher straight up said he didn't believe in evolution and he was only teaching it because he's forced to and it was an unproven theory (he was a catholic)

[@AXKfUN9m]

@@N7_Jedi He must've felt betrayed when the Holy See declared evolution true.

[@jetsilveravenger]

Certain kids go out in the hall to pray during that time. I used to think that was just a joke on The Simpsons (using sexual education) but have since learned it's quite real.

[@AvaEFF]

There’s a high possibility he was homeschooled.

[@Kellie08]

I am 54 years old. The internet has made me so thankful that my parents were atheists. I hear the things theists say and I absolutely cannot comprehend it.

[@doggiesarus]

The Christians in Rome who were killed were killed because they were criminals, not because of their religion. Sadly, you could be killed (in the arena) for many crimes.

[@sharkrancher282]

"Requirement of the Environment" is such a satisfying phrase.

[@Argrouk]

So Moses didn't find people worshiping false idols, and the ten commandments don't specifically mention it as forbidden? Because no one did it before it was prophecied, right?

[@queuecee]

According to the story in the bible, Moses did find people worshipping false idols. And the reason that this story is in there is to solidify the transition away from the existing polytheism within the Hebrew people. The story also had to talk about how a large group of people wandered around in a desert for 40 years, which would have been impossible if they just went in a straight line in any direction.

[@t800fantasm2]

@@queuecee "just went in a straight line in any direction." In truth, they would have had to follow the coast... If only for the food supply the sea would supply... I measured it out on Google Earth and it's basically the same distance as from one end of England to the other... In other words I even at my age could walk it in less than 2 weeks...

[@Glasschin2.0]

@@t800fantasm2 would take you at least two months to walk from lands end to John o grates

[@t800fantasm2]

@@Glasschin2.0 "as from one end of England to the other.." Well, that's nice, but I didn't say England AND Scotland... Scottish border to south coast of England is only about 450-480 km depending.. That's only 32 km a day... for 2 weeks... That's doable...

[@jukeswolfy2593]

Absolutely love how passionate forrest is about science. i could listen to him go on for hours

[@Beacon80]

Imagine if NEPy was actually right. If he understood these things in a way that even scientists who'd dedicated their lives to the subject failed to grasp. With this knowledge, he could revolutionize the world and bring millions of non-believers into the fold. But instead of publishing papers and affecting change, he decides the best thing to do with this is to argue with laypeople in the KZbin comments.

[@queuecee]

I tried imagining. I couldn't. It's like imagining a square circle.

[@Seticzech]

Because he's mentally unstable troll and sociopath and he has no choice, he's addicted on trolling and lying. 🙂He's not even arguing, he just copy & paste same nonsense over and over.

[@borthwrenblanston6632]

Ah! Now "DEDICATION" is what truth is! As long as you're DEDICATED, nobody should question you LOL! as for these threads, I set straight any atheist that comes here & have been for 12 yrs. I simply know more than anybody else. It does happen that another Christian says something a different way and that's always welcomed.

[@queuecee]

@@borthwrenblanston6632 12 years or 14 years? Are you counting your prison time or not?

[@Beacon80]

​@@borthwrenblanston6632Way to completely miss my pont. Coward.

[@lightningbug276]

Thank you for (23 minutes in) explaining things instead of laughing at people. I really appreciate that.

[@TracedaBassman]

You can lead a Christian to the truth but you can ‘t make him think.He’ll refuse, move the goal posts, and deny any facts you present, no matter how well documented, in order to avoid having to ever say he was wrong to someone he disagrees with.

[@jaflenbond7854]

What is the worth, value, and importance of GOD to Atheists and Christians? ANSWER - Atheists who are asserting and claiming that GOD doesn't exist and Christians and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who are asserting and claiming that GOD will torture human beings for eternity in their fictitious and invented Hell are clearly the arrogant, cruel, and merciless haters and mockers of GOD on earth who are all FREE to enjoy their lives, have fun, and live and exist on earth wherever, whatever, and however they want to live and exist. What is the worth, value, and importance of human beings to GOD? ANSWER - The lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance to GOD who uses the BIBLE to reveal that the submissiveness of loving, kind, respectful, and submissive persons on earth to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 will definitely bring them honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 and the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that all the loving, kind, respectful, and submissive persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can peacefully, happily, and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.

[@fentonpeter1582]

@@jaflenbond7854 With respect, I am not sure if you set up your comment the way it appears above, but if you did it intentionally, I have to say that it was one of the most confused and unintelligible messages I have seen for quite a while. That together with only 2 full stops did not add to whatever message you are trying to get across.

[@holgerlubotzki3469]

@@jaflenbond7854 Why are you so *LAZY,* Jaffles? The least you could do here is put some effort into tidying up the spacing of your copy pasta scripts of *SPAM!!!* "He also that is slothful in his work is brother to him that is a great waster" - Proverbs 18:9 "The sluggard is wiser in his own conceit than seven men that can render a reason" - Proverbs 26:16

[@Seticzech]

@@jaflenbond7854 blabla from insane mind

[@holgerlubotzki3469]

@@fentonpeter1582 Jaffles is a brain donor with a fist full of copy pasta SPAM scripts.

[@Gary4DLC]

20:10 I was like... don't say it, don't say it! He did say it

[@arnoldfossman1701]

Plate tectonics is great evidence that the story of the Ark is false. Could be a nail in the cross of the bible?

[@groupecrescendo2408]

Forrest, thank you for your your pedagogy. Very well explained.

[@GoodieWhiteHat]

The first time I came across the ‘how come there are still monkeys?’ was a joke coined by Johnny Hart in the 1970’s. BC was freaked out by Thor’s declaring man to be an ape and there was a v funny series of strips of him trying to reconcile it. The ‘how come there are still apes?’ was one. I’m not sure if that’s where it started but if so, it was not serious.

[@borthwrenblanston6632]

It doesn't matter, because NOTHING of your asinine, lost & clueless atheist cult can be SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME. For over the 50 yrs I've been destroying every facet of the asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism. All atheists are cowards that refuse to present the details of what they believe, because they all desperately believe in the IMPOSSIBLE (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, new anatomy differing from ancestry/evolution) and what can't be SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME. Only ACTUAL NATURE CAN BE SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME (e.g. flower bloom, reproduction, photosynthesis, digestion, respiration, gravity, sunshine). Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you entire hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).

[@queuecee]

It's hard to believe that there are people who are so uneducated and ignorant that even after FIFTY years, they will ask this kind of dumb questions. And they ask it in all seriousness. It would be nice if these guys actually learned some science before they ignorantly deny it.

[@borthwrenblanston6632]

@@queuecee Science? I've destroyed every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless atheist cult by the mere statement that NOTHING of it has ever been or will ever be SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, new anatomy differing from ancestry/evolution). You need to admit what we do observe in this world. What you OBSERVE already existed in the zygote or the acorn, so to speak. No NEW INFORMATION is ever produced and no GAIN OF COMPLEXITY ever occurs. That's why no NEW INFORMATION or GAIN OF COMPLEXITY (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, new anatomy differing from ancestry/evolution) has ever been SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME. Only ACTUAL NATURE CAN BE SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME (e.g. flower bloom, reproduction, photosynthesis, digestion, respiration, gravity, sunshine). Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you entire hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).

[@queuecee]

@@borthwrenblanston6632 😂😂 Sure, buddy. Sure.🤣🤣

[@queuecee]

NEPy: No new information is ever produced. It already existed in the zygote. Biology: Two gametes combine to create a zygote with a completely unique genome that has never existed before in the past. 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

[@andrewwolf7798]

Forest is an absolute gem. Total respect and honesty in his interactions, provides brilliant information to all listeners with impeccable knowledge of biology/evo in particular, and never backs down on what he stands for. This was an absolute science lesson to this caller who has obviously been in an uneducated, superstitious echo chamber his whole life.

[@MrCanis4]

These Discovery descriptions are as Global as the Flood. That is why we have never heard of them here in Northern Europe. 😂😂😂

[@DefaOmega]

I feel like Jim shouldn't have jumped in at the end, because Forrest had a great conversation with him and covered a lot. He would likely have left the conversation thinking specifically about the provided evidence as he did seem responsive to it. Regardless, no hate against Jim and he brought up a good point about evidence and prayer.

[@gatorboymike]

I went to McDonald's for lunch and then I was kidnapped by aliens. Here's my McDonald's receipt. That proves I was kidnapped by aliens.

[@ihatespam2]

It’s more likely

[@kendallchaos]

You know the Iliad said that Troy was a real place and the fact that we found Troy must mean that Greek mythology MUST be true

[@h.c.9738]

Another example is Orson Wells broad cast of War of the Worlds. The Martians invaded New Jersey. Listing real places in NJ. Still not true.

[@nested_King]

Best explanation I’ve witnessed without having to read a book or take a course. Bravo!

[@nealjroberts4050]

The usual debunked arguments: Fine tuning - no constants or parameters have been demonstrated to be tuned or confirmed as independent of each other. Anthropic principle / puddle reasoning (distinct from FTA) - relies on assuming that things are noticeably existent because they were intended to be rather than because they exist and were noticed. KCA - relies on special pleading a particular something from nothing. Contingency - relies on special pleading that contingency _always_ exists for _everything_ except whatever is claimed to be the original contingency. Design - relies on comparing known human design with known lack of design then assuming everything unknown is designed. Irreducible Complexity - still not demonstrated to exist. Objective Moral Values - still not demonstrated ontologically. Nor that a god is required for them. Note that divine command morality is just divinely _subjective_ morality. NDEs - basically another claim that personal experiences are true by default. DNA as information - usually hampered by misrepresentation of the definition of information, often with the false claim of being wholly digital. Existence of Consciousness/Intelligence - often falsely claimed to require themselves already existing in order to exist. Usually presented as a false dichotomy ignoring that both vary throughout an organism's existence. Free Will - usually involves equivocation on what free will means and false dichotomies on determinism and randomness, sometimes with a composition fallacy. Scripture Prophecy - usually a mix of statements not verifiable as prophecy, appeal to probability, and appeal to authority. Anything to add or update?

[@LetoATX]

I dont understand why people want to live forever. Going to sleep in the dirt sounds amazing. Life is hell, death is release.

[@amtlpaul]

Neppy the Convict: "Everything falls apart, therefore a perfect deity put it all together perfectly." 😆 🤣 😂

[@wwlib5390]

@amtlpaul Why do you find it necessary to bring up someone's past stumbling and mistakes? Satan ALWAYS tries to discourage by bringing up and pointing to someone's past. Jesus ALWAYS encourages by pointing to their future - the 'voice' of God vs the 'voice of Satan.

[@amtlpaul]

@@wwlib5390 If we should put the past away, what to say about a holy book that mainly relates events that allegedly occurred thousands of years ago? Is the Bible the work of Satan?

[@Seticzech]

@@wwlib5390 "Satan ALWAYS tries to discourage by bringing up and pointing to someone's past." Said lunatic quoting 2000 years old immoral book of errors. 😀 "Jesus ALWAYS encourages by pointing to their future" Can I see your originals of the gospels? Oh, you don't have any... well, your Jesus babbling is irrelevant.

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

​​@@wwlib5390oh, so when you bring up the Midianites' past to excuse the inexcusable genocide, that's ok, but if that we do it to someone on your side, it's not ok? Also, NEPy's FRAUDULENT part is FAIR GAME and entirely relevant when he declares himself an AUTHORITY, was he does daily.

[@queuecee]

​@wwlib5390 The only reason his past mistakes are brought up is to point out how blatantly he lies. He claimed he was a millionaire retired medical doctor. Based on the ignorance of what he posted and his behavior, that seemed to be a lie. And his claim that he "destroyed" all atheists for FIFTY years and how he's never lost in a debate against atheist ALL seemed to be lies. So pointing out that he's gone to prison twice from being convicted of charges such as racketeering and fraud demonstrates that he's lied about his qualifications that HE brought up. It'll be like if someone claims he's qualified to run a country because he's SO successful in business, it's fair game to bring up all his bankruptcies and scam companies.

[@kjmps999]

It’s the Peter Griffin/Scott Tenorman collaboration we didn’t know we needed.

[@Seticzech]

*@borthwrenblanston6632* Repeat after me: there is no such thing as god in reality. CLEAR EVIDENCE shows us that every isolated society created their own version of gods, their own version of LOCAL FLOOD, their own version of Earth and universe. There are no mutually isolated two places in the world where people have the same gods, that clearly proves that EVERY IDEA OF EVERY GOD IS MAN MADE.

[@PauloBarreto15041964]

Absolutely my friend. Very good reasoning. Great argument!

[@flyguyry1]

Notice how he gets forced into a corner he brings up "where did life come from?"

[@VanHalenIsolated]

“No but…” is the phrase of the day for this theist. How is your god any different, in regard to evidence for his existence, than any other mythological being? EDIT: perhaps, “Were you there?” is a better phrase of the day. No joke, when he asks this in response to Forrest’s evidenced-based claim, he sounded like he instantly transformed into a little child. The tone of his voice. 11:11

[@queuecee]

​@@jaflenbond7854Wrong

[@Seticzech]

@@jaflenbond7854 blabla from insane mind

[@jaflenbond7854]

@@queuecee Wrong? Really? So, you can really differentiate what are right and what are wrongs, and what are truths and what are lies?.... just tell me, why do you want to suffer, die and just become worthless and useless dust on earth forever when you can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever by simply submitting to the authority of Jesus Christ and putting your faith and hope in his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"? Why? Tell me your personal reasons so I can understand why Atheists and Christians are mocking and degrading GOD and Jesus Christ as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected.

[@jaflenbond7854]

@@Seticzech can you really determine who the worthless fools and liars are and who are the loving, kind, respectful, and submissive persons on earth? just tell me.... why do you want to suffer, die and just become worthless and useless dust on earth forever when you can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever by simply submitting to the authority of Jesus Christ and putting your faith and hope in his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"? Why? Tell me your personal reasons so I can understand why Atheists and Christians are mocking and degrading GOD and Jesus Christ as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected.

[@Seticzech]

@@jaflenbond7854 "can you really determine who the worthless fools and liars are" Yes. "why do you want to suffer, die and just become worthless and useless dust on earth" Because live forever without possibility of escape must be unimaginable hell. You know everything, you did everything countless times, you heard everything countless times, you saw everything countless times, you can't perceive happiness because there is no misery, and it's not even beginning of your eternal boredom. Imagine must watch very stupld and boring movie over and over. For a day. For month. For year. For 50 years. Over and over. For millions of years. And your torment still didn't even began. When I die, I wanna stay dead. You know I'm good person, I REALLY wish you your wishes come true for you. So you can regret them forever. Because no matter how awesome something is, there is always time when it become really unwanted. "by simply submitting to the authority of Jesus Christ " I was not brainwashed, I don't believe in iron age mythology. It's like asking you to accept Hindu gods, you are also incapable to do that. "why Atheists and Christians are mocking and degrading GOD and Jesus Christ as worthless" I don't believe any god exists, I don't believe Jesus Christ is anything more than mythology. They're on the same level as Sauron or Voldemort. There is zero evidence about existence of any god, people have to be brainwashed to believe in them.

[@mayikipihess4341]

dude i think having religious trauma as a child makes these videos ten times better, so much enjoyment i wish i could send them all to my parents sometimes. i wish i could sit down and talk to forrest and just learn and debate. i love having informed debates

[@perks6292]

Love it when the Forrest Valkai School of Evolution is in session

[@Buddyguy1988]

As someone on the fence about it all thanks for being respectful and nice with your guests

[@PauloBarreto15041964]

I would never, ever have your patience guys. It's clear from second 2, that the caller is very poor educated, he knows nothing about anything. Never in he's entire life has been willing to learn. Surely he won't listen to you neither. He has a frame of mind dedicated to prove himself right. He knows nothing about archaeology or any other science for that matter. He knows nothing about the bible either, which he claims it's true. You guys are wasting our time. But i suppose someone must do it.

[@tryintoreason9738]

Good take, Jim. "The Walking Drum" is an outstanding book.

[@InterestsMayVary2234]

He's never heard of Louis L'Amour but it's because L'Amour wasn't important and TOTALLY not because this dude has never read a book. 🙄

[@SuperManning11]

That’s exactly what I was thinking !!! Haha!

[@JohnShultz-rd1ew]

yore fikshun is fake, but my fikshun is Real !

[@johnredman4568]

James is Ray Comfort's love child.

[@queuecee]

Here's a dumb Christian attemp to understand entropy: "We're all dying." I wonder how a proton "dies". Or what about an electron? Or a photon? Or a neutrino? Oops. Sorry, this assumes that such a Christian would understanding physics when they pretend to know entropy.

[@borthwrenblanston6632]

Yes, we're all dying and all matter is decaying in entropy. Even the universe shows entropy by increasing speed in it's expansion. A proton "dies" when the soul & spirit leave the body, because the body can't live without the soul & spirit. The body then decomposes back into the earth it came from. Physics also proves God. You have a lot to learn, boy.

[@queuecee]

@borthwrenblanston6632 Stupidest argument for god: "things die, therefore god."🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ And yet, creationists can't provide the cause of virtual particles getting created in a quantum vacuum.😆

[@borthwrenblanston6632]

@@queuecee I'm glad you don't know how stupid you are. Yes, things die, therefore God. You can't come into existence from a source in entropy. That's because any source in entropy loses information by aging and then die. They never gain information or new information. A dying source can't bring into existence something else. The cause of EVERYTHING is God and he's outside that EVERYTHING, even if it's in the "quantum vacuum."

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

​@@borthwrenblanston6632 thinks protons are alive! 🤦🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

​@@borthwrenblanston6632 _"... A dying source can't bring into existence something else."_ 👈 Have you tried telling that to a pregnant woman with terminal cancer? 🤦

[@tryintoreason9738]

"Whose evidence..." Well... we could just read the diaries of the guys who committed the atrocities.

[@dominicc.3864]

I wonder if this dude would buy my bridge if I told him Jesus walked on it???

[@Goatastrophee]

This is how I feel a conversation should happen. Dude was called out on the BS and didn't fight it...then admitted what he believes and why 😂

[@bazcuda]

In a thousand years' time, archaeologists will uncover the ruins of Madison Square Garden, thus proving that everything in the Godzilla movie actually happened and that Matthew Broderick was the Son of God, come to save the World.

[@David-j8v5p]

I'm gonna start calling Jim and Forrest Sam and Dean Winchester! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Childfree334]

Gotta love how believers are clueless about many important scriptures in their own Bible. Then when it's pointed out to them, they go into a cognitive tailspin trying to defend the evil actions of this god by claiming "free will" OR "context" OR "mysterious ways." The intellectual dishonesty of believers is astounding. 😮

[@frompartsunknown687]

No, there's just Christians that haven't did the research to know. It's the same with some atheists; some are more ignorant than others. I happen to be a Christian and an expert on all of it.

[@Specialeffecks]

They are emotionally prevented from acknowledging the absurdity and atrocity, first, because they are conditioned to accept that Believe = eternal reward, not believe = eternal punishment, second - they've so heavily invested so much time and effort that it's unthinkable that it could have all been for naught.

[@claudiaarjangi4914]

The sunk-cost fallacy. 😁☮️🌏

[@KikomochiMendoza]

You can tell Forrest is a straight up Educator and Science Communicator the way he breaks down "if evolution exists why are there monkeys".

[@mhavens8532]

we're not LIKE animals, we ARE animals lmao

[@eleanorgeorge7069]

Humans are not animals. In humans vs animals, is there something IRREVOCABLY in the dog that’s a dog vs is there something that’s IRREVOCABLY human in the human? Yes. They could never be from the same limited source. For example, no animal can grasp the idea of God. No animal can grasp the concept of the worship of God. NO ANIMAL can split the atom or build a space shuttle w/ 250k moving parts & walk on the moon. Only humans can get schizophrenia. We PURPOSELY cook w/ fire, while animals are scared of fire. Animals have no cognitive grasp of sending their daughter to college or producing technology & explaining it to paying students! Name an animal that can do ANY of these INTELLIGENTLY DYNAMIC things? THESE FACTS ONLY SCRATCH THE SURFACE TO PROVE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HUMANS AND ANIMALS. Humans clearly are not animals. I rest my irrefutable case.

[@Beacon80]

@@eleanorgeorge7069 So we're animals that can cook with fire. We're still animals.

[@wyldink1]

​@@eleanorgeorge7069Humans fit every single criteria that defines an animal. Yet again you demonstrate your colossal ignorance. You have to try to learn, Jimmy.

[@loneprimate]

Jesus, speaking of Spider-man, this dude shoots a new web to swing from the second the last point he made gets shot down.

[@MegaFrog]

I always love seeing Forrest taking the time to share knowledge and truth, it's helpful for everyone.

[@frompartsunknown687]

Wrong. Like all atheists, Forrest has ZERO ANSWERS. Evolution states that all 9 million different species of life came from an amoeba type species. That simply can't happen for many reasons. Entropy, for one. Another is the fact that there's no such thing as a gain of information or a gain of complexity or new anatomy or emergent properties. Sorry, but a mud puddle didn't come from nothing by nothing to do nothing and be nothing and produce a first cell w/ not only the DNA blueprints of 9 million animals, but also the first cell w/ systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move, breathe & reproduce. This is the idiocy that the atheist must believe in order for this world to be godless. The asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. Answers can't come from a lie.

[@Beerglass1980]

That's why!!!when i go to the park, when i see a tire i want to swing from it. And when i go to the store i go straight to the banana section.🤔

[@dannyspitzer1267]

And this is what religion does to your brain

[@SpaceBiscuits]

I love how James goes for the ‘were you there?’ argument as if he was there to witness all the claims of the bible.

[@SecondaryHomunculus]

Forrest: [excitedly answers the question in perfect detail] James: Well, yeah, you're not gonna believe me and I'm not gonna believe you, so... All of reality: [concussive facepalm]

[@FionaBranker]

Thank you for this comment 🏆

[@frompartsunknown687]

Forrest? Not even close. He's just another of the lost & clueless (atheists). I've destroyed all atheist ideas (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution) and it was easy. NONE OF THAT garbage has ever been observed or even proved to be POSSIBLE. I just proved that atheism = delusion/mental illness. Forrest has ZERO ANSWERS. Evolution states that all 9 million different species of life came from an amoeba type species. That simply can't happen for many reasons. Entropy, for one. Another is the fact that there's no such thing as a gain of information or a gain of complexity or new anatomy or emergent properties. Sorry, but a mud puddle didn't come from nothing by nothing to do nothing and be nothing and produce a first cell w/ not only the DNA blueprints of 9 million animals, but also the first cell w/ systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move, breathe & reproduce. This is the idiocy that the atheist must believe in order for this world to be godless. The asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. Answers can't come from a lie.

[@Summer-birds]

I actually enjoyed this call. The guy wasn't aggressive and was listening to what hosts were saying. I'm also glad that Forest gave him proper explanations.

[@Soylent1981]

I applaud Forrest for his patience and clarity. It was masterful how he was able to answer the questions with respect.

[@frompartsunknown687]

Don't be silly,. Forrest is just one more lost & clueless fool. NOTHING he presents has he ever PERSONALLY SEEN. He's simply in an asinine, lost & clueless atheist cult. Wishful thinking.

[@Zaddy-Lu]

If we didn't evolve from prehistoric primates, why do some babies that are born today/in modern time have prehensile tails very similar to modern monkeys?

[@americanpatriot8426]

Troll

[@riccardozanoni2531]

most likely yeah...