BIG Trouble in Japan - the Nissan + Honda merger ...and Toyota?

[@anyone4501]

Here in Philippines Toyota is a leading car brand because they make Cheap MPV, Crossover and Sedan by acquiring Daihatsu and branded here as Toyota while nissan offer only SUV and Pickup not all can afford that two categories.

[@butchsunga4596]

Just let Nissan fail. Nissan will just drag Honda down with it. Nissan did it to itself and it was 20 years in the making. I used to have 3 nissans in my garage circa 2010s. Now in 2024, I have 3 toyotas and 2 hondas, and will never again buy a Nissan.

[@paul9156c]

Me either. I learned never buy another Nissan back in 1982.

[@paul9156c]

I will never buy another Nissan. Learned that lesson by 1982.

[@burningknuckle26]

my Nissan is fine. I love my Nissan. speak for yourself.

[@kickarse2285]

@@butchsunga4596 ...just for the GTR...hope that never happens... C'mon Nissan you can do it..

[@jaiabusaria6759]

I never bought a Nissan in the first place... purely a Honda guy..

[@kickarse2285]

Hope you're wrong,, hate to see Japanese car manufacturers crash.

[@Anonymint-vj7bt]

To boost sales Nissan needs Honda's hybrid technology and better CVT transmission. To boost sales, they need lower interest rates which are coming.

[@Godisgreat786Godis]

Toyota is a one man show.

[@TinoMiller]

In which way ?!! They don't have any EV's in their lineup that are appealing .. The one EV they have they share with Subaru, Lexus and soon Mazda ? .. They are bidding on hybrids they can not make good sports cars cause they went to BMW .. They are a failing ship like Honda and Nissan

[@ag4eng]

Toyota prices are going kill its sales.

[@earl-d4n]

strength in numbers. honda and nissan NEED each other and japan gov will push the deal. china market BIG, and foxconn wants nissan to bury toyota and honda. DO THE MERGER HONDA!

[@carsonpittman136]

I use to love Nissan. One of the reason why Nissan isn’t selling is because their cars are ugly as sin.

[@dampergoldenrod4156]

Japan was the economic miracle 35 years ago in 1989. Now China is producing most of the cars that are purchased by Chinese citizens. Japan is going down. The quality is going down. They're following the trend that was set in the USA

[@Funkydood]

DON'T DISCOUNT KOREA!!!

[@wenjiehe8305]

But the quality of the Japanese cars is still the best.

[@maplemiles3381]

Japanese cars in quality haven't gone down hill and the Chinese cars are 💩

[@jobaker4573]

The only car I miss is Nissan Skyline GTR. It's legend.

[@matt45540]

I hope Honda acquires Nissan and not the other way around. I don't think Nissan has much to provide other than maybe electric vehicle knowledge.... That's out of date. I think very little of Nissan

[@matt45540]

Speaking on electric I've rented an Aryia, very nice car fun to drive but charging was terrible.... And the price isn't competitive. I would consider getting one when they count for the used EV tax credit

[@EmoGdSprt]

Nissan can't even afford themselves that why they're in their situation.

[@earl-d4n]

they NEED each other to compete in china. they better do the deal for BOTH OF THEM.

[@unreliablenarrator6649]

Sylphy used to be the highest selling car in China. Now they struggle to give them away.

[@schorriemorrie_04]

The volume curves for Nissan and Honda mirrors that for total global auto sales, meaning that their global market share may not have changed as much as looking at their volumes charts in isolation may suggest. Toyota likely had their highest global market share percentage ever last year. The lower yen has negatives as well, like using those yen to pay for raw materials and devaluation of their reserves/retained earnings (in $).

[@MS-ql8ek]

I use to love nissan in the 90s, their cars are still beautiful in 2024 but the cvt issue needed to be fixed 15yrs ago but they refused. By pleasing share holders they went and cut cost over and over with cheaper quality parts, the engines are decent but the cvt had to go. Hopefully if honda acquires nissan they will keep the nissan badge but use Honda transmission and engines but i know Nissan engineers are very stubborn

[@content-driven]

Would you buy a new Nissan car right now? All these merger uncertainties make me reconsider my decision to buy a new Nissan Qashqai

[@HLC64]

Nissan not only didn't develop EV nor hybrid series of any significance... Even their 3 cyl some kind of variable crank is complicating alerady too many parts in ice and had failed... Neither did Honda seriously did much accept lately selling Chinese model face lifted to look like Honda... Yet it's not an international model. Mistibushi is also in the dole drum... Better they all join together including Toyota....

[@DarnellHendeason-dk3uw]

Honda may be able to benefit by acquiring and improving the truck division of Nissan, hopefully they bring back the "Hard body" name.

[@earl-d4n]

honda engineering legendary good. they BOTH need the merger to compete AND stop foxconn from getting nissan. china WILL dominate without the merger. who wants that?

[@taam3196]

Here is the fruit of clinging to using CVTs

[@bradbradshaw-i4n]

i don't see why buying a failing company will help honda. honda must not be doing as well as reported.

[@henriqueber2340]

It’s a pitty almost all companies stoped their product evolution at all to favor profit… Nissan and Honda had being selling the exact same projects for so long…

[@azzkiker9033]

THey can capitalize off our nostalgia and bring back the cars of the 90s THE PROPER WAY

[@Anonymint-vj7bt]

Nonsense. To boost sales Nissan needs Honda's hybrid technology and better CVT transmission. To boost sales, they need lower interest rates which are coming.

[@markvisser388]

When you have a CCP shill talking about Japan, you know you have avoid the entire channel 🤣

[@ScoobieDoo-zy1rh]

Feelings hurt? = mission accomplished 😂

[@KPAU07]

Honda and Nissan do make high efficient car any more. Toyota Prime example could get 41 miles along with high efficient hybrid. Other are trailing behind. Why would some one by trailing technology.

[@jakesnake4998]

cvt killed nissan

[@SuperTrumpMAGA]

How about the Teutonic German Engineered cars ?? Benz, BMW, AUDI,......VW,... are the top of the world always no matter !!!!💋💋

[@SKV-q5l]

They lost the competition to Chinese cars everywhere, end of story.

[@maplemiles3381]

Chinese cars are doing very bad in sales

[@harisoepangkat6085]

Nissan talked to Honda due to Foxconn's intent to buy Renault's some 23% share in Nissan. Foxconn is Apple's main iPhone assembler and having a dream of making EVs. Foxconn also plans to join Japan's SoftBank boss Mr. Song to apply Song's AI platform with his EV. It was the real intention behind the merger plan of Nissan and Honda to resist Foxconn's acquisition. There is no synergy or complementary benefit between Nissan and Honda cars. Their merging will just delay slightly towards bankruptcy.

[@雅君墨客-i9z]

我笑了这些都是弱弱联合垃圾也改变不了日本还有这些对中国汽车威胁😅

[@kanishkajayaweera7882]

I own a Nissan X-Trail and I bought that not because it's cheap. My Nissan has the nicest premium cabin of it's class

[@jonathenschwartz3019]

This is like yhe stelantis story. All big dying company joins together and dies together. Mitsubishi nissan and honda, once top brands, loved by people, has their own fan boys as we grew up, are all getting together to die together.

[@EmoGdSprt]

Toyota can swallow all 3 in 1 Svelte swoop

[@maplemiles3381]

Toyota is doing fine and I see them on the road a lot

[@garynonnemacher3965]

Not sure why Nissan is so bad these days, I guess they have some unreliable cars. But, so does Honda. Honda went the small-turbo route a few years ago to get better MPG. Most serious folks see that as a mistake. I own two Hondas, a 2017 and a 2018, both with the 2.4L engine that has billions of trouble-free miles. You can't get that anymore and the prices are markedly higher. This is the root of the problem - building cars that people are not crazy about and charging too much money for them. If that does not kill sales, I don't know what will.

[@knickd1979]

back in the 90s, Nissan was viewed as the cooler alternative to the more common, mundane Toyotas and Hondas that every boring person in the world drove. then they sort of lost their edge and became the option if you couldn't afford the superior Camry or Accord. the Pathfinder and Frontier should've been a focus but they let both fall far behind in terms of engineering and build quality. oh, and remember the Titan? hahaha. FAILS

[@veerod383]

Japan is betting on hydrogen technology as an alternative to EVs, aiming to reduce reliance on China, which dominates the EV supply chain. This cautious stance reflects broader concerns about geopolitical vulnerabilities. Meanwhile, the drive for ICE efficiency has compromised reliability, eroding trust. Legacy automakers underestimated the Chinese market, clinging to outdated strategies and suffering massive losses. The auto industry faces inevitable consolidation, with only a few brands likely to survive. Many legacy automakers risk being acquired for a fraction of their value. The Honda-Nissan deal, likely government-mandated, aims to shield these iconic brands from Chinese acquisition, preserving Japan’s automotive heritage amidst rising global competition.

[@gerhard-jx4rn]

Good video learn more

[@Seis87648]

Hoping China shakes older car manufacturers from their pedestal and force them to lower their prices

[@maplemiles3381]

Chinese cars are at a very steep price and are garbage the Japanese cars are at a good price and quality built

[@NilanthiGamage-o2e]

Here in Sri Lanka Toyota is the highest Value (Even second-hand car market price) Economical and Luxury segments. Dealership caters for Government, Corporate, Businessmen and Professionals while General public buy from Car importers-Sales Centers (because Brand new cars are sold at hefty price by dealer) because Sri Lankan prefers Japanese Domestic models which comes with Full option unlike Basic models import by Dealership. Spare parts are also available in the market for Toyota compared to other brands. However, Toyota are not up to date in terms of consumer ambitious and they are lagging behind latest gadgets on vehicles what customer need. Taking Honda's ability to make stylish vehicles this merger should also focus to produce Durable rigid structured, User friendly interior design with cabin sound proof, Comfortable vehicles ( E.g.: Quality simplified Suspension system) at affordable price to consumers in worldwide.

[@ItsChrisWorld]

I love Nissan but this has me rolling on the floor 9:24

[@DavidQuear]

I drive a Subaru, love the car, I think electric cars are expensive and take too long to charge.

[@ScoobieDoo-zy1rh]

Yeah the 30 minute charge to get 80% battery is too long .

[@thomasctteo6868]

Nissan cars have become very boring.. the sales figure should reflect that

[@bobcarrigan1742]

“Honda Frontier” doesn’t exist.

[@michaelduke4500]

EVs are NOT ready for prime-time here in the US. WE DO NOT HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THIS AT THIS TIME!!! If those who are so gung-ho about EV adoption move to China, I'm sure you will love it there. Personally, I am so freaking tired of the EVs being shoved down throats. Heck, you are told to "charge your EV outside of your house or garage." Again, EVs are no ready for prime-time in the US.

[@ryanjuguilon213]

Good. The world moves on and US could become Britain 2.0

[@wenjiehe8305]

The world will move back to ice cars after failed EV experiments.

[@miskatonic6210]

There even are EVs in third world countries like Sri Lanka and you think this can't be supported?😂 EVs are here to stay. No political agenda can change that. Pollution in huge cities is so menacing in many cities all around the globe there is no other way but to substitute a lot of vehicles with EVs. You "we don't have the infrastructure" crybabies. There are whole cities getting rebuilt after wars within some years. All of Norway shifted towards EV infrastructure in just some years. If governments WANTED they could make shifts like that within 5-10 years. You just need to throw money at it and will create tenthousands of jobs on the way. It's big oil money preventing these changes.

[@stephenmarcus9601]

Nissan will weaken Honda. Honda itself has stopped growing owing to Chinese brands, too much competition in Japan and a resurgent GM. Nissan should be given to Renault in a stock, no cash, merger. Renault and Nissan complement one another and could offer a global like up if Nissan quit Europe. For political reasons these companies never shared enough technology but this would lead to lay offs. Hyandai, Kia, Subaru and Mazda combined have killed Nissan and salled Honda growth. This gov pressure explained why Honda cut its GM partnership.

[@ag4eng]

Japan,inc finished in general including electronics companies. That country is going way down in fortunes like Germany. China will dominate technology.

[@KingBooks26]

Toyota, trouble ? are you taking some prescription drugs ? Nissan, ok trouble. Honda, maybee. Toyota ? Its the best brand, and great cars and engines.

[@miskatonic6210]

He disqualifies himself. He doesn't know shit about what he's talking about.

[@albertchun6890]

Go n research Tundra engines. Rigged safety test, thousands of recalls. Etc. Etc.

[@maplemiles3381]

Toyota saw a big increase in sales and I have seen a lot of Toyota's on the road.

[@albertchun6890]

@@maplemiles3381 Check again. Their sales has tank worldwide. That's why they are panicking n planning to merge with other big Japan car co.

[@maplemiles3381]

​@@albertchun6890no I did research Toyota cars are not decreasing in Japan and rest of the world for a matter of fact wumao. Plus the Chinese cars sit unsold and burst into flames well charging

[@schorriemorrie_04]

Technically it's the inverter or motor that does the charging of the battery in a hybrid, but normal people don't care about. They just want reassurance they don't have to do any plugging in, and this is exactly why the term "self-charging" is so triggering for the EV weirdos. They identify so much with the cause that a rejection of EVs feels like a rejection of them. Toyota is in much better shape to help Nissan but they choose Honda to counterbalance Toyota which has become very dominant in the Japanese market.

[@timharu62]

EV adoption will take longer than you think. The Battery alone weighs 1000 pounds. You are basically driving a truck that maneuvers like a sports car which is deadly as this will result in many more deaths due to reckless driving. every year 40000+ die in car accidents in the US and another 2.6 million ER visits, this number will go up significantly since you have a truck disguised as an EV hit other cars. US infrastructure is not ready for mass EV adoption. Highway guard rails(run through like spaghetti), bridges, and car parks need to be updated for the increased load required. Japanese automakers are not in a rush to commercialize EVs. They are however investing heavily in R&D as the future is in EVs.

[@ryanjuguilon213]

Lol western brands that are already outdated. The Chinese own this segment and will make all other brands small regiinal players or go bankrupt. Western and japanese batteries are rubbish compared to chinese

[@gerhard-jx4rn]

Nissan is very expensive

[@comment6864]

Who cares about EV's? Hybrids are so much better. They should just focus on perfecting the hybrids and forget about the EV's. Let Tesla struggle with that one and see how far they get. Better work on finding the next generation fuel instead. Electricity has never made sense as an optimal fuel replacement for vehicles.

[@bltzcstrnx]

Not all country controls oil supply chain and petrodollars. Those countries' government would love to transition to EV because it cuts down their oil import. Which in most cases burden their public spendings and trade deficits.

[@richparayil379]

For sure,they should learn from toyota.

[@Viva-El-Kaputtalismus]

Honibishi

[@colinnhl1414]

Unless the Japanese manufacturers can produce vehicles consumers want to buy otherwise they're going to go under.

[@burningknuckle26]

never

[@Aikynbreusov]

It's all come down to reliability and value.. 99% of buyers don't care about fancy gimmick technology and trendy design.... they only care about a good well built car with good craftsmanship along with an affordable price.... do that, and your cars will sell like Starbucks coffees

[@kenphillips7594]

Starbucks did badly in Australia😁😁. Honda sold a grand total of about 1400 vehicles in October+ November here. HA needs to take a long hard look at the marketplace, dump their business model, trust their dealer network, up spec their vehicles to industry standard, improve their engines and drop their prices by at least $7,000. If they don't then the future of Honda in Australia is very bleak.

[@munkyfu23]

Facts. I'd add a well-backed warranty.

[@crxdelsolsir]

This is a temporary storm. By that I mean the forced EV movement, the Chinese car manufacturing invasion waging a price war is new and will settle. The truths with the EV mandates and Chinese cars (quality, support and life cycle) will soon be known and settle the market. As with many Chinese low cost war strategy, people get surprised and allure initially bringing high sales. Soon people will realise the quality differences, environmental concerns associated with low cost which is low quality and low retention spans. As well as the down side of high turnover rates (low retention) one being on a debt treadmill, lack of affordable 3rd party parts, low time period to customise and enjoy a debt free, customised period of ownership (Classic car period). Car manufacturers are battening the hatches to weather this out. It is a sign of great flexibility to withstand changing environment even if temporary.

[@101therealest]

How about German cars like Mercedes Benz or bmw ?

[@billlee2983]

Their end is coming soon. Either they shutter their operations or be taken over by Chinese auto makers like BYD or Geely

[@wenjiehe8305]

Chinese automakers have no profits if no government subsidy.

[@miskatonic6210]

Maybe ask a specialist instead of him.

[@pauldietzmann5610]

Mitsubishi tops honda nissan toyota they have sh.t together Son owns 2017 Mitsubishi outlander sport purchased new 215000 on it

[@drewdevon2009]

ill never buy a nissan if they merge with honda

[@earl-d4n]

honda has great engineering to share, what's the downside if nissan gets better? your thinking is helping china foxconn get control of nissan. VERY DANGEROUS.

[@Funkydood]

GO KIA!!! GO HYUNDAI!!!

[@davedave5787]

The problem is any brand you buy now is all garbage... people catch on eventually.

[@miskatonic6210]

Kia and Hyundai isn't relevant in most of Asia. Toyota is everywhere.

[@TuxBearlux]

HON-SAN or NIS-DA 🤔🧐❤ New Name

[@gerhard-jx4rn]

Out prizes in ZA

[@asimiqbal7421]

Honda should do a merger with MG

[@TheRasta4ri]

EV automobiles that rely on plugged in lithium ion batteries are not reliable in cold or/& salted water which can lead to run away thermal events & shouldn't be parked to close to a structure

[@saidali8418]

If those 3 brand merge then the Chinese will surely have something to be worried about ! Still in SE ASIA JAPANESE CARS ARE STILL BEING PREFERRED AND TRUST WORTHY compared to Chinese made .

[@pinotnoir3654]

That's not the case anymore. Toyota's quality control is horrible now. Do the research - they have problems throughout their product line. 2024 will be known as the year Toyota destroyed their reputation. Honda has been declining for the past 20 years, and Nissan is pure garbage.

[@maplemiles3381]

​@@pinotnoir3654you are wrong Toyota is still quality and those Chinese car are garbage since China made these things rot outside unsold and they burst into flames well charging. Plus I see a lot of Toyota's on the road

[@ph1438]

Just buy a Mazda, call it a day...