Big Turbo Focus ST VS. Stage 3 Focus ST ! - Episode 9 - Focused Garage

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Onder and Mike trade cars to see what the other person thinks of how they built the car!

[@justinlong4644]

this is a really interesting channel for ST owners, keep it up boys!

[@FocusedGarage]

Justin Long thanks!

[@zondahyt45]

“This is my uhh focus st uhh and it’s got a big uhh turbo”

[@FocusedGarage]

Trying to stop my self doing that.

[@totov7325]

@@FocusedGarage Have you guys brought these to the track and time it, for 1/4 mile?

[@FocusedGarage]

The best time the stock turbo one ever got was a 14.2. Could never get a clean enough launch with it. With the right tires and driver, 13.9 or so is doable. With slicks, even lower is possible.

[@totov7325]

@@FocusedGarage Yup for sure I have seen 14.3 bone stock, Was woundering what you guys got with these tuned one?

[@dougg.4806]

Great vid!! As a new ST3 owner I'm loving all the upgrades each if you made. Keep up the good work !

[@FocusedGarage]

Thanks for the kind words! -Mike

[@Asdasty]

Facelift definitely looks much more aggressive than pre-facelift.

[@FocusedGarage]

+Best Braai 15+ have more agressive looking front end than previous model. But the rear end is so ugly on the 15+

[@AlexTurbo]

The front end looks nice but the rear is ugly, which is the reason I just bought a 2014 instead.

[@jfar301]

@@FocusedGarage agreed my 2016 rear is fucking gross. gave it the vegamotorworks facelift in the rear to make up for the ugliness though. worth it lol

[@jamesmcclendon3932]

I was looking forward to see a race!

[@FocusedGarage]

+James McClendon that is going to be happening in the near future. FBO car needs some love before boosting again!

[@alexstromberg5865]

Big turbo ftw

[@FocusedGarage]

Worth it all the trouble!

[@dham99]

i love my '16 ST1, I got it in Race Red. Blue is my favorite but I've had so many blue cars i wanted to change it up. Both of yours look great! Ive got boosted/modified cars like a 91 miata and an 04 cavalier. The difference between them and my daily driven ST is my wife has to ride in it a lot, and i have to keep her happy lol. While she likes the speed, she's not a huge fan of the bouncy suspension and any drone on the highway. So I would have to say the 'single me' a few years ago would easily go for the stiffer, louder, more violent ride (big turbo), even as a daily. But my current choice due to keeping the wife happy, Id have to go with the stage3. Just not ready to drop a tune and FMIC that will void any warranties. So far its just an air filter, 50/50 bov, and im looking at a catback.

[@FocusedGarage]

+dham99 which catback are you looking at? I

[@dham99]

Focused Garage the last few weeks I’ve actually had a hard time deciding and I missed my window, Cjponyparts.com had a good sale on mbrp. I like the burbles of the Flowmaster but it’s tips look goofy, like gapped front teeth lol. Mbrp xp (3”) is the best choice to keep it subtle. I’m terrible at making decisions ☺️

[@FocusedGarage]

+dham99 mbrp is gonna drone bad! I would suggest mountune, miltek or fswerks stealth. I have the cpe and you can adjust to get rid of the drone. I couldnt find the sweet spot yet but i have catless dp and a bigger turbo.

[@dham99]

really? from what Ive heard it seems to be the most subtle one that still has an aggressive sound under acceleration. A coworker has it and its pretty quiet at start up and idle. Tbo i dont mind drone, but the wife wouldnt care for it. Another option was the MRT axle back..has a nice sound and is under $400. but it really wont provide any additional performance since the stock piping and cat/resonator still exist.. for another $100 Id rather just get a full catback anyways

[@FocusedGarage]

+dham99 we have a video of the ocd axle back which is same as the mrt axle back. You wont see any performance gain from exhaust by the way. Its only for noise. I added the link below. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYuZp4CIict0jLs

[@Saren_95]

St with big turbo it is.

[@fatmarine8891]

Finally A Channel Of Ford Focus ST'S or Whatever Aslong Is A Focus 😎😅

[@FocusedGarage]

+Marin Capote focus all the things.

[@MelloKingMal05]

I just stumbled across this channel and I'm glad you made this video.. Honestly since my ST is my daily I'd prefer the Stage 3.. I don't think the baby would appreciate the vibrations from the big turbo car 😂

[@FocusedGarage]

+Kamal Stringer it does get annoying time to time.

[@KDiizz]

just remember he is gutted and I'm sure he has stiffer motor mounts. which the motor mounts alone will causes lots of vibration.

[@FocusedGarage]

+K-DizzVids being gutted does make a difference and the solid motor mounts do not help with the ride comfort. But I love driving this car! So far i put 54k miles on it. Onder

[@BaconKFilms]

12:18 bro whY did you do that lmao

[@FocusedGarage]

Do what?

[@RealLifeEddy2K]

No other mods touch Displacement and Boost levels, end of story. All that other stuff is nice, and great supporting mods but bigger turbo, supercharger, and bigger engine, just really puts the power down.

[@FOX11GUY]

I had that Jpipe muffler delete. It had a lot of drone at 3k. I mean A LOT!!!!

[@FocusedGarage]

I guess it depends on the driver. I've owned alot of louder cars so this was actually pretty tolerable to me. Lol.

[@johnjackson12]

Be interesting getting a hybrid turbo against the big turbo. Pumaspeed with the x37 get over 320whp which is only 30 or so down from the big turbo. But you get less lag in between gears and i would imagine more torque lower down.

[@FocusedGarage]

+john jackson it would be interesting to see how it will go

[@jholmenw]

So from your comments. If you weren't going to go to bigger turbo... really only need to upgrade intercooler, downpipe, cobb tuning, and air filter for performance gains?

[@FocusedGarage]

+Jordon Holmen we made a video about the performance gains from mods. Check it out! kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5bHpqyZhJlkobM

[@benst2594]

Onder, have you considered going back to stock motor mounts but install sway bars and traction bar? much better since you wont have those vibrations etc

[@FocusedGarage]

I wanna go back to stock passenger and driver side mounts with oem traction bar up front.

[@lj4602]

No mention of accessports are there any tunes on these or is that just implied

[@FocusedGarage]

They are tuned for the mods.

[@H8XME]

dam cant find!!

[@topshelfjunkremoval8912]

Awesome video! I have a very stupid question... besides comfortability/noise etc.. do you daily the big turbo? Is it ok to do? I am at about 60k miles.. I do not want to spend money on a ticking time bomb... I really would not have guessed that a bolt-on turbo upgrade would put the motor in danger. If professionally tuned, and you are pretty conservative, can you daily it without losing reliability? I just want to go faster.. it is fun, during the first 2 gears. So far what I have seen from other ST owners.. The most you can upgrade this car is--- FMIC BOV EXHAUST CAI AP SUSPENSION SHIFTER CHANGE FUEL TYPE BIG TURBO INTAKE MANIFOLD WHEEL/TIRE DIET RMM/TRANNY MOUNT .. couple smaller things. I love this car.. I love Ford in general. 3 Mustangs, 1 F-150, 1 ST. (Not all at once) And I am new to the tuner world.. I want to be different than my mustang buddies but it seems that there is nowhere near enough room to mod. Mustang Mods are endless, and you can smash GTR's, Vettes, Porsches, Vipers... with the right mods. Any motor work being done? Is it worth it? reliable? Thanks guys!

[@FocusedGarage]

+Joshua Hollandsworth We have a video about what mods gives the most hp. You can find it in here kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIm0lJ-jfdOpg80. I do drive it daily. Currently have 50k miles on the stock engine and about 10-15k on the turbo set up. I cant comment on the reliability of the car because it has more than what its designed for as a reliable car. There are plenty of 400-450whp big turbo stock engine out there running. However there are plenty of blown engines with only tune. It is all up to the drivers and how they treat their cars. Thats why It is very hard to make a for sure statement about the reliability. It is a very fun car and a sleeper. I love driving it. I cant tell you not to mod the car but i cant promise you its going to be fine.

[@topshelfjunkremoval8912]

thanks for the honest answer! I can't decide. A friend of mine who owns an ST blew his engine too... Stratified tune. stock turbo. It scares me a little because I have zero idea what to do with a car like this.. without big turbo can you reach 300? thanks again man I love your car

[@FocusedGarage]

+Joshua Hollandsworth you can reach that number with aux fuel and ethanol mix. Or you can get to 280-290 with e30 mix and custom tune. Aux fuel is around 1k+ so it is up to you if that 10+ worth that much.

[@fordmustanggen5]

9:30 How is the "power linear" when the factory turbo is widely known for coming on strong down low and then falling on its face in the higher RPMs?

[@FocusedGarage]

Must've been a mis-speak, sorry about that.

[@queench]

I want to buy this one, but only with a chanse to put bigger turbo and thinking how hard it is and if is there anyone in my town to install this and tune it for me

[@FocusedGarage]

A big turbo install can be done in your garage. It isn't easy, but it's doable. If you are not mechanically inclined, I would not recommend it. Also, most people have the cars etuned.

[@alreid3388]

What short shifters are you running? Links?

[@robsat66]

Sorry for sounding like an old fart but I just bought my son a black 2016 st. By the way both St's are crazy nice!!!! I have a 2017 5.0 performance package competition Orange with black wing also with Roush intake and Ralph Muffler with x pipe probably give it extra 25 horsepower maybe a little more

[@FocusedGarage]

Thanks for the support! Always loved the new S550 Stangs. -Mike

[@CozyVillain]

Dope video guys I have a focus st too im thinking about going stage 3 big turbo with stratified tune!!!

[@FocusedGarage]

latrell simmons Dont forget about their Pops and Crackles tune!!

[@blindassassin111]

Crackles are life, I knew the tuner the second the stage 3 car went into over run. Love my crackles and pops with a straight pipe exhaust. Also was surprised to hear the stage 3 car had and OCD speed axleback, seeing as he stopped making stuff years ago. Did you have an older ST before or did you buy it second hand?

[@FocusedGarage]

latrell simmons It is an used exhaust. You can find them on the forum or Facebook groups. Also, MRT is another company makes the same exhaust.

[@blindassassin111]

Pretty sure that was meant for me ;P. But I was mostly commenting on how it was weird to see someone running an OCD part on a MK3.5. I have a 2013 ST(bought in 13 as well), and was around when Ollie still made stuff. But I don't buy exhausts, I make them. ;P Saves money and I get exactly what I want.

[@FocusedGarage]

Its a shame Ollie stopped making parts for the current gen. He pretty much disappeared. -Mike

[@sc_garage4735]

nice! I been wanting to see ur cars. what short shifter do u have?

[@FocusedGarage]

Sergio Camacho mike has ford racing short shifter with boomba base bushings. I have ford racing short shifter with breedt trans arm with trans bushings. We both have boomba shift knobs.

[@sc_garage4735]

Focused Garage thanks

[@edwardvillarreal7387]

So, question for the Bigger Turbo.....Did you drive the car with the big turbo without the side mounts? Basically, is the car noticeable able to hook up better with the side motor mounts? Also, how many miles have you been with the big turbo now? tks

[@FocusedGarage]

Benefits are noticable. Turbo set up has about 40k miles on it now.

[@PointerPapa]

I don't understand how the non turbo car is Stage 3 without a downpipe, cat back exhaust, intake, and upgraded charge pipes. If youre ever in Nashville we ought to run my 2013 ST1 and your "stage 3" ST2. Mine is all Mountune and cPe intake.

[@FocusedGarage]

Robert Saldana Mike has a Focus ST as well. His car puts down 260-270whp and 370-380wtq.

[@FocusedGarage]

The only necessary parts to be "Stage 3" are an intercooler and downpipe. It has been proven that time and time again upgrading your charge pipes, catback exhaust, and intake do absolutely nothing on stock turbo.

[@brandonvilla8281]

Good video! Just got a 2014 ST and it's such a fun car. Are you guys in the Dekalb area!?

[@FocusedGarage]

Brandon Villa No we are in Chicago Suburbs. What is your plan for the ST?

[@brandonvilla8281]

Focused Garage Cobb accessport then a new exhaust system. Don't know which one to buy though, so many options!

[@FocusedGarage]

Brandon Villa Nice! Onder has the CP-E exhaust and Mike has the OCD axle back with a J pipe

[@antwoinescars266]

Hey I'm in the Dekalb area as well!!

[@FocusedGarage]

+Tuner Mafia we are closer to chicago.

[@eltalivan1610]

Where do you bought your wheel. The one with the stage 3. Would you give me the page please ???

[@FocusedGarage]

Wheels were bought used, so we don't know the website.

[@eltalivan1610]

Focused Garage thank you 💯 & nice video 👏🏽

[@xoSillySaus]

What are the wheels specs for the NT03'S? What width and offset?

[@FocusedGarage]

18x9.5 et40

[@jacobcosgrove3121]

What are the exact specs on the Enkei wheels again? They look way too nice!

[@FocusedGarage]

Those are NT03+M. 18x9.5 with a +40 offset.

[@andrewp9047]

Great video! Thanks guys. Just out of curiosity, where did you get the NT03 wheels drilled out to 5x108?

[@FocusedGarage]

Andrew Pinto Mike picked the wheels used. However there is a set for sale on the forum.

[@MecanixGarage]

You guys are modding for power. But have no base to build upon. There's things that are needed to really "put the power down" motor mounts, lsd, oil separator plate/oil catch can. Are important on the focus forsure

[@FocusedGarage]

+nickalaj1 We have a different video explaining that kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIm0lJ-jfdOpg80

[@warrensmith792]

nickalaj1 I dunno exactly how much an occ helps put the power down but we'll go with it.. pretty sure most cars like this have lsd's from stock these days too.

[@FocusedGarage]

+warren smith focus st unfortunately doesnt have real lsd. It controls it by using traction control and abs. Under regular driving and some spirited deiving works great. However, you cant replace the gain you would get from a real lsd with this electronic system. Occ will help eith carbon build up on the valves on the direct injection engine. So clean valves means using all the potential of the engine but again it wont help you put the power to the ground. Onder

[@BaconKFilms]

nickalaj1 ohas

[@DJ-kx6gr]

What kind of mpg would you get with a bigger turbo upgrade? Just spirited driving occasionally

[@FocusedGarage]

+Dj Jamison i usually get about 23 to 24 mpg in city and highway i can get up to 34mpg.

[@SO-fr8eg]

Why dont you guys have a mini race... thats the only way to know who's is better

[@FocusedGarage]

+Saad Omer next time when we are in Mexico

[@unseeEverything]

Hi. Great vid. What size Enkei are they(18? x? offset?), what size rubber are you running and do you experience any rubbing at all with your setup? Thanks!

[@FocusedGarage]

m00 18x9.5 with +45 off set. 245/40 tires. No rubbing.

[@cupcakehogie]

Way to hoon through a parking lot. Classy.

[@FocusedGarage]

Next step is to add Hoonigan banners to the windshields.

[@NeekoKid]

Hogan Barrett lol i do it all the time to spam my bypass valve lmao

[@MrRenegadeRonin]

What are the specs for your wheel setups and coil overs? Wheel Sizes, tires, and spring rates for the fortune autos? are you running the 500 series?

[@FocusedGarage]

+Robert Perez Enkei 18x9.5 with +45 off set. 245/40 nitto nt05 tires. Fortune Auto 500s 7k front 5k rear.

[@MrRenegadeRonin]

Focused Garage You didnt require any camber arms or the likes to prevent rub? I have Custom RPF1'S in the same offset. :)

[@FocusedGarage]

+Robert Perez are the rpf1s 9.5" wheels? Maxed out the camber on the coil overs

[@MrRenegadeRonin]

Focused Garage I believe they are 18x9, +35

[@dj4monie]

Did you REALLY say you must upgrade your motor mounts for X amount of power? That is ludicrous, you update mounts because you are trying to launch the car aggressively on street tires which WILL wheel hop unless you learn what it takes for them not to hop. I had upgraded mounts on four out of the last six cars and will not do that again. I run slicks at the track and it won't wheel hop.

[@jacklaughlin5782]

It's mostly to help with the torque steering from what I understand. The more torque the car has when they 'build' these the worst the steering gets when accelerating hard

[@FocusedGarage]

The mounts help more with wheel spin, wheel hop, and shifting feel than anything else.

[@Trader_Vader]

And for the Focus on BC coilovers what dampening do you have you car set on and did you adjust any preload or anything?

[@FocusedGarage]

All Nate bc coils set to half way for the dampening and pre load is at 4 turn.

[@jonathonhinkle89]

hey man i have a question...you said you have a intercooler....did you install new charge pipes of did you mount the intercooler to stock pipes? I would think on the little KO3 it wouldnt matter if you kept the stock charge pipes on..just wanted to know your perspective on this...thanks in advance

[@FocusedGarage]

I wouldnt replace the charge pipe unless you go bigger turbo. Stock charge pipes are fine. Upgraded intercooler will fit on the oem charge pipes as well.

[@jonathonhinkle89]

thanks man...

[@FocusedGarage]

No problem. Happy to help!

[@Jambiswag]

Between the white guy being so on edge the whole video and the other man being so underwhelmed by the stock focus this is so cringey

[@fernandost9120]

I have a cat back with intercooler w a green filter. That would probably be a stage 2 tune correct?

[@FocusedGarage]

+Fernando ST yeah thats what cobb considers as a stage two.

[@-slurmdaddy-8147]

Fernando ST intercooler with green filter? You mean intake? And unless you got downpipe and AP too you not stage 2 imo. Def not stage 2 if running stock map

[@frederickcoetzee2055]

Great video guys! Mike I wanted to know how the axel back sounds at speed. Is there any drone? Does it sound tinny? Can you hear the music in the car, etc lol? Cause I can get the MRT 2.5" exhaust in Africa and I wanna install it. Also, Onder, Mike you guys went catless, I still have the stock DP and exhaust but I want the Stratified Stage 1 tune with loud crackles & pops. Have you guys heard if it damages the cat? Is it recommended on my setup? Onder I love your ST, it is brutal. But I have to go with Mike's car here. As a daily, I'd need something quieter lol. PS: if I was rich (wishful thinking haha lol) and had the BMW in the garage I would go for Onder's setup lol. I am still digging this channel big time!

[@FocusedGarage]

Hey there, I love the noise from my axle back. Its quiet when I want, and loud at WOT. No droning at all unless I'm doing over 80MPH. In regards to the crackles, Stratified says that over time if you have a cat that their tune with the pops can degrade the cat. It probably would take a long time, but I still probably wouldn't take that chance. For a good audio clip of my exhaust, check out the last few minutes of our latest video where we compare my car to a stock FoST. It gives you a great idea of the noise. -Mike

[@frederickcoetzee2055]

Thanks Mike…I really appreciate your reply. That is very informative, in Namibia, we do like 120 to 300 miles between towns with 1 cop inbetween, sometimes lol. It is common to do 80 to 120 mph all the way and at that speed, drone becomes a problem. I am looking to buy warranty from my insurer on the car and just void Ford's. If that pans out, I will go full bolt on with Stratified Pops and Crackles. But I will keep the stock exhaust as this is my only car. Thank you so much for all your advice, I am super grateful and you guys have taught me so much! Is there a way we could connect on social media? Just share some of my mods with you guys and life in Africa? I am on Facebook, Skype, etc.

[@FocusedGarage]

Frikkie Coetzee we have our Facebook and Instagram accounts in the description. You can reach us through there.

[@stephenb.1140]

i like your fitment! may i please know your tire specs? (nt03+m st)

[@FocusedGarage]

18x9.5 ET40 245/40/18.

[@stephenb.1140]

Focused Garage thank you. do you get rubs on that setup?

[@FocusedGarage]

Big bumps it does rub.

[@FocusedGarage]

It also depends on how low you have your ride height set.

[@stephenb.1140]

Focused Garage thank you! 🙏

[@tylerstickle49]

Where did you get the spoiler on your car? I love how it sticks up some rather than just flat

[@FocusedGarage]

+The Bulldozer in the video the spoilers are stock.

[@tylerstickle49]

Focused Garage do you know if its any different at all? It looks like it sticks up more than the other one

[@FocusedGarage]

+The Bulldozer could be the camera angle.

[@tylerstickle49]

Focused Garage ok then. Either way sweet ride man, love the wheels, im trying to get a white 16 st here in a couple days

[@FocusedGarage]

+The Bulldozer send us a picture of the car through fb or Instagram

[@zackroddy928]

That Barrington road life haha

[@FocusedGarage]

Spotted 👀

[@K24FB6]

So I’ve been thinking for the past few month on tuning my 2017 St, I currently have a mrbp exhaust, boomba bov and green filter, my question is who do you guys recommend as a safe and knowledgeable tuner for these cars? I have heard good things about Randy at Mountune, as well as Alex at stratified, but my main concern is reliability. I also plan to add a depo catted dp, depo intercooler and im guessing colder spark plugs right? (Stock turbo)

[@FocusedGarage]

I would suggest Adam from Tune+. He tuned my big turbo focus st and my stock one as well. He doesnt have ots tunes. They are all custom and you can get life time tune. Everytime you change your setup, you can get a new revision. Intercooler and colder plugs are only things you need. Dp wont add much power. It would be just for the sound.

[@K24FB6]

Focused Garage I appreciate the fast reply, I just emailed him, yeah as for the dp that pretty much what I want, just to make the car louder, so would you say I should be fine with tuning my ST? Im not looking to make crazy numbers just something a little more fun but reliable.

[@FocusedGarage]

Watch out for LSPI, dont boost when the oil is below 120 Fahrenheit and maintain the car. We have a video about what you should look at on your Cobb AP and how to data log.

[@DnBDubstepManiak1]

and all of this is perfectly legal in the US?

[@FocusedGarage]

+HardstyleBeats_Mixr mods? Everything is legal except the catless down pipe! But there is no emission check in this county.

[@ciscoinferno]

I dont get it. Isnt he also stage 3 but with the big turbo.? Or you cant put a big turbo if u r stage 3 ?

[@FocusedGarage]

You have to be stage 3 to be able to run bigger turbo

[@rfishy9]

can you tell me where you found those rain guards,thanks

[@FocusedGarage]

Just on eBay!

[@josephallen8044]

Big Boost!

[@FocusedGarage]

Joseph Allen more to come!

[@raymondbenbow8641]

im just curious how that st is a stage 3 with only a FMIC and a DP. gotta make it threw steps 1 and 2 before you can consider it a stage 3.

[@FocusedGarage]

Stages are dumb. Intercooler and tune are the only things you need to make the max power with the stock turbo. Rest is just for noise.

[@raymondbenbow8641]

@@FocusedGarage that's a very obtuse thought, stock turbo or upgraded, their are tons of other bolt on mods that are all going to make a difference in response time, torque, top end speed and handling. if you want to be a close minded parking lot tuner i guess stick with your exposed FMIC and your tuners, but i know i want my car to put down the power i work for, and handle like a go cart.

[@FocusedGarage]

Totally understand what you're saying but as far as power mods go, all you need is an intercooler and down pipe. Sure you can put more parts on the car and totally should. However alot of people refer to tuning on this car in the sense of stages. So we are just referencing it for ease.

[@raymondbenbow8641]

@@FocusedGarage agree to disagree haha. Nice ride man. I got a FoST myself. Props guys

[@FocusedGarage]

They're very fun cars, that's for sure.

[@kyletheaverage612]

How did you get your ST to pop like that, mine does it slightly but not loud like yours

[@FocusedGarage]

Bigger turbo + 3" catless dp + 3" cpe exhaust + 93 octane tune

[@sategllib2191]

Is this north of Chicago? I'm from an hour south of chicago and have only been there 3 or 4 times. I have 15 focus st and a 96 mustang gt

[@FocusedGarage]

North west suburbs.

[@sategllib2191]

@@FocusedGarage makes sense lol. Always seemed nicer than southern Chicago up there

[@FocusedGarage]

Anywhere is nicer than South side lol JK... It's nicer in the suburbs.

[@edi1mex]

Feel like that big turbo will lag a shit load and torque will be shitty at a dig race

[@FocusedGarage]

Drag racing a FWD car is hard. Takes lots of practice. To be honest I like the lag of the turbo. Lets you know when it spools up.

[@christopherrogers8316]

why wouldnt someone who put all the extra mods on it want to get it dyno tuned? lots of power being lost there

[@FocusedGarage]

Dyno tune is great. However, because of the location of my tuner and my schedule, i just couldnt get done. My goal was to hit 400whp and its there. So not looking for extra power.

[@Pii-RuCryptoCuhThroat]

How is that a stage 3? Guy has a intercooler and a axleback exhaust. Reminds me of my Subaru days...everyone thinks they are stage "something"

[@FocusedGarage]

+radioflyer20081 Focus st stage 3 considered: intercooler + down pipe + filter. Intake and cat back exhaust dont add any more power. Stage 3 label is coming from cobb. I use the term full bolt on instead of stage. Also stage3 car had the intercooler filter amd downpipe with axle back. Onder

[@H8XME]

what wind deflectors are these?

[@FocusedGarage]

Daniel ford they are eBay mugen style.

[@viper22kl90]

Focused Garage is there any advantage to the way those deflectors are made, or is it more for looks?

[@FocusedGarage]

+viper22kl90 it is more for looks

[@viper22kl90]

Focused Garage thats what I figured, they look cool though

[@FocusedGarage]

+viper22kl90 definitely looks cool. These are fiber glass though just a heads up. We didnt know when we ordered them.

[@Gen-Z-Stacker]

What intercooler are you running in the turboed ST. My ST is stock for right now but later on I am wanting to upgrade to Big Turbo, can I get away with the CPE lightweight intercooler or do I need to buy the big one

[@FocusedGarage]

+Elijah Wheeland depending on your power goal, you should be good. Im running depo beast. It works well. It is same as the cpe big core. Onder

[@Gen-Z-Stacker]

It's going to be a little bit before I upgrade my Turbo but I definitely want to put a new intercooler and piping in will I need to tune if that's all I do?

[@FocusedGarage]

+Elijah Wheeland the good thing about these cars is you dont need tune for anything you add. Unless adding big turbo, wastegate and aux fuell. All the bolt ons are safe to use without a tune. Onder

[@Gen-Z-Stacker]

Awesome, thanks for the help!

[@FocusedGarage]

+Elijah Wheeland no problem! Good luck with your build! Onder

[@InformalMrTrev]

NIU, are you guys in DeKalb IL? I've got a black focus ST out in DeKalb.

[@FocusedGarage]

+Trever Vanus we are in Schaumburg but i went to NIU Onder

[@InformalMrTrev]

Focused Garage Are there any good car meets out there?

[@FocusedGarage]

+Trever Vanus join chicagoland st or chicago st and rs. These groups make weekly meets

[@FocusedGarage]

The two local Facebook groups Onder mentioned have a bunch of meets. -Mike

[@johnathangouws3506]

hi there , your exchuast what mm and the sizes/shape of box , thanks

[@FocusedGarage]

Which car?

[@johnathangouws3506]

@@FocusedGaragefocus st

[@PriceCheckMeBro]

Hey you guys are from my area! Barrington road? I'm looking into buying a ST soon

[@FocusedGarage]

+Brian Boun Great! They are fun cars!

[@PriceCheckMeBro]

Focused Garage you guys from the Elgin/ streamwood area?

[@ZomKP]

How's the wheel spin from around a 40 in the BT ST. I'm buying the gtx2971r soon.

[@FocusedGarage]

Kyle Pinet Depends on your set up. As long as you have all the motor mounts and good set of tires, you should see not much spin.

[@ZomKP]

Focused Garage right now I have the cpe Stage 2 RMM and I'm going to get a set of super sports soon. Would you recommend a better tire for performance and daily driving?

[@FocusedGarage]

Kyle Pinet They are good for daily driving. You should be fine with your set up since the power comes in later on the rpm range. You can always get the passenger and driver side motor mounts, if you still spin the tires.

[@ZomKP]

Focused Garage awesome man thanks for the advice! Would love to see some more content from you guys!👍🏼

[@CornfedKillerDude1]

The placement of your front tags really restricts a lot of air... and the 2nd guy has all stock motor mounts? He must not race much because these cars don't hook up and wheel hop like mad in 1st and 2nd gear with stock mounts...a pass side and a RMM will knock almost 1/2 a second off your 1/4 mile times when used with an FSWerks traction bar...those are the first things you should do to this car, but instead you guys throw exhaust on it that gives no extra power and makes you sound like kids with all the pops and crackles...

[@FocusedGarage]

+Michael F Plates are placed where the gril is not open. If you look really close to a picture of a 15+ focus st only some portion of the front gril is open. We made sure that plates were not covering the opening. Onder

[@ReticentIndignation]

I like balance, although big turbo yields big smiles...Hmmmm

[@FocusedGarage]

+ReticentIndignation you could upgrade the suspension to keep the balance. And bigger the turbo bigger the smile

[@H8XME]

cheers, are these better than hekos?

[@FocusedGarage]

Daniel ford Not sure but they held up good so far no problems

[@Trader_Vader]

Do you have the loud crackle and pops or the mild?

[@FocusedGarage]

All Nate Mild

[@vince4707]

Which ones are better?

[@FocusedGarage]

+Vince D Fortune auto > BC > st. Fortune and BC has more adjustable and you can customize your valves and spring rates.

[@Everthingpro]

what are the wheels on the stage 3 again?

[@FocusedGarage]

LpZ Enkei NT03

[@viper22kl90]

are your guys cars kona blue or are they performance blue?

[@FocusedGarage]

viper22kl90 performance blue

[@viper22kl90]

Focused Garage oh ok so they are '15s?

[@FocusedGarage]

+viper22kl90 correct

[@stumpbumpers]

A lot of folks keep commenting to "buy an RS" with the money instead of upgrading or mods. I can buy a brand new ST for under $20,000 a new RS is $40,000. There is not $20,000 worth of fun in the RS over the ST. Besides I'd rather have a fun ST with $20,000 to play with, if the choice was mine. I don't know how others justify their purchases, but it doesn't make dollars and sense to me.

[@FocusedGarage]

+MyKZbinChannel I always laugh at the "why didn't you buy an RS" comments. People just like to troll on the internet and think the RS is the be all end all car when it's truly not. It's a great car don't get me wrong but the ST is also a great car in it's own right, especially after on certain modifications.

[@troylinden369]

Not sure where you are going to get a brand new st for under $20k. Mine was about $25k new with x plan price.

[@stumpbumpers]

I guess you need to shop around. A quick search on Autotrader just turned up a brand new ST at Pittsville Ford in Pittsville, MD for $20,061. There were a few brand new ST's on that particular site when I posted the above comment, for $19,500. I could easily find several to prove my honesty, but I don't have the time to waste on someone who could do the search themselves, instead of making a foolish comment.

[@stumpbumpers]

Another quick search, without distance as a criteria, the 25 results on the first page were ALL Focus ST's under $20,000 and more than half of them were in the $18,000s. I guess you paid too much.

[@stumpbumpers]

Koons Silver Spring Ford Mazda in Maryland has 6 or so Focus ST's in the $18,000s. Most are 2018, and a few are 2017, but NEW.

[@rulopopez384]

Woooo ! Yeah !

[@FocusedGarage]

Woot woot.

[@Aleczellner]

What kind of wheels?

[@Aleczellner]

Nvm

[@FocusedGarage]

Ok

[@kennethelliott5985]

that's not a "stage 3" a "stage3"is a full bolt on car with tune

[@FocusedGarage]

Downpipe and intercooler are the only parts on a Focus ST required to be "full bolt on". Intake and catback are nothing more than noise makers.

[@Lan60570]

Tire /whee specs on the stage 3?

[@FocusedGarage]

Wheel: NT03 18x9.5 ET40 Tire: 245x40R18

[@ZX3ification]

What wheels and offsets are on both ST's?

[@FocusedGarage]

Mike is running Enkei NT03+M wheels. 18x9.5 ET+40.

[@FocusedGarage]

+Nicholas Waltman Onder has OZ Superturismo ET40 18x8. Mike has Enkei NT03 18x9.5 ET40

[@Beessubie]

Says he is stage 3 but doesnt have supporting mods to make your st stage 3...

[@FocusedGarage]

In regards to what? It has been proven time and time again that a cold air intake, cat back exhaust, and charge pipes do nothing on a stock turbo car. All you need is a downpipe, intercooler, and air filter.

[@luisrod106]

Brent Evans I always thought stage 3 cars had bigger turbo and fuel system. Basic bolt on is basically stage 1 maybe 2

[@warrensmith792]

Focused Garage every car enthusiast has a different set of "stages" for their favorite car. I'm sorry to say every factory turbo car is different. My srt benefits greatly from cai and a tb exhaust. A bfmic on a stock srt actually causes hotter air temps and zero gains compared to oem. Every car is different. If you want to learn the "stages" of mods for a specific car in order to build it to that stage using your own choice of manufacturers; you can just look it up. I'm pretty sure Mountune is an aftermarket support that works with closely with Ford. I know for my car, Stg 3 neons have an upgraded ecu, mopar bov plate, bigger injectors and tuning toys like a wotbox or something (along with usual breathing app ai, exhaust etc.)

[@FocusedGarage]

+warren smith stages for the focus was set by cobb. I dont like using stage word because it means different stuff for different cars. I like to use full bolt on or even all the parts you need to make the most power. With the focus st intake and exhaust doesnt add power. Down pipe adds little power but not much to notice. In reallity, all you need is a cobb tuner or sct and a bigger intercooler to make about 290whp and 390wtrq on the stock turbo. If you are trying to make power with the focus st, list should be tuner+intercooler then bigger turbo (with intake and exhaust) then aux fuel (since no upgrade available for the high pressure fuel pump) around 400whp to 450whp you would wanna upgrade internals and a stroker kit to make it 2.3lt then about 770whp sleeved block. Stock trans all the way and stock half shafts. So far thats the record. Onder

[@danielbargas3377]

Stage 3, aka front mount and cosmetics

[@FocusedGarage]

Stage 3 for this car is a joke.

[@danielbargas3377]

Focused Garage I would consider stage 1 turbo supporting mods, intake, intercooler, exhaust, tune, stage 2 would add a bigger turbo and a uprated clutch, stage 3 is forged internals, aftermarket custom fabbed turbo setup, head stud kit, even stronger clutch and stand alone

[@FocusedGarage]

Unfortunately Cobb created the stages for the focus and made it up. I would say only intercooler and tune are needed to support the turbo on this car. Intake and exhaust don't add any significant power. However most people don't know this. It's so much easier to say stage 3 than explain it.

[@909cobra]

big turbo all day

[@FocusedGarage]

All day!!

[@sonderevokingbuns]

13:54 "focused garage" looks like he's about to cry.

[@FocusedGarage]

Lol sun was brutal!

[@FocusedGarage]

Lol it does look like I'm about to straight up cry.

[@cm8070]

Where did he get his hood

[@FocusedGarage]

Collin Andrew Anderson Composite

[@vince4707]

BC coils or St-x?

[@FocusedGarage]

+Vince D mike has fortuneauto onder has bc xtremedrop

[@dodgepower5270]

Have you race any focus Rs I think if you do you can beat them brother I was going to buy an Rs but is overpriced instead I bought an St and I love it I had it stock for a year with just a green filter so the big turbo is worth it?

[@FocusedGarage]

+Carlos Vargas I havent raced any Focus RS so I cant really talk till I do. Big turbo is worth it. I love driving the car. Still acts like stock car before boost really kicks in. Also i get great highway millage too. We have couple of videos about what you need to install the big turbo to help you out. If you have more question about it, you could message us through focusedgarage at fb.

[@rollin0n4z]

Stage 3 ST yet there’s no motor mods? Lol... and a big turbo on the ST only makes 330-350 Wheel? I made 330whp on the STOCK turbo in my MK7 GTI. Now I’m IS38 and making close to 400whp. Glad I went with the GTI over the ST.

[@FocusedGarage]

+Kasey Guerra focus st stages are different than other cars. That number was before fuel upgrade car is making 400whp with stock internals. And turbo is cabable of making 550whp. Also still stock clutch ;)

[@FocusedGarage]

Stock internals will get the FoST about 400/400. Anything more you're looking at upgraded internals. Numbers on stock turbo are low because small OEM turbo. GTI has a larger OEM turbo. -Mike

[@edi1mex]

E30 both

[@FocusedGarage]

Gooby for sure not running e30. But can't remember if the other was on e30 or just 93

[@LostPie]

So in other words it sounds like stage 3 makes some cool sounds but still feels stock. Ya spend money on the car to get power and performance, not a comfortable ride for your baby. I'd go big turbo from the videos ive seen.

[@FocusedGarage]

+LostPie it does make between +60-70hp and around +100trq. But big turbo upgrade makes the biggest difference for obvious reasons. Onder

[@FocusedGarage]

Stage 3 feels significantly different than stock. Clearly the gains aren't as big as swapping the turbo, but you really notice a totally different powerband and 100 more torque.

[@Silas_cv1]

3 motor mounts🤦🏽‍♂️ of course a car is gonna have motor mounts😂😂

[@FocusedGarage]

+Deadman 25 polly motor mounts lol

[@PyroBlonde7777]

What exhaust? :O

[@FocusedGarage]

PyroBlonde7777 Onder has CP-E and Mike has OCD axle back with jpipe

[@Bladesje]

wheres the fuckin drag race

[@FocusedGarage]

Don't think it would be much of a race unless the big turbo car had traction issues lol.

[@FreshlySnipes]

Those aftermarket Tail lights on the Stage-3? There is no clear reverse light strips....

[@FocusedGarage]

+FreshlySnipes those tails have red tint spray on them.

[@jonathonhinkle89]

Those nittos look sexy on that slammed st!

[@FocusedGarage]

Thanks! Loved the way the car sat.

[@jakeroberts2858]

I have the same car, taking out the interior has just wrecked your car, should of bought a rs in my opinion

[@FocusedGarage]

+Jake Roberts it wasnt a permanent thing. Interior was back in the car after the race.

[@SrZx10]

Maybe im deaf or missin shit on the snap crackle pops ordeal....

[@FocusedGarage]

+SrZx10 nothing more than some noises that people like. Lol.

[@DubbaDaveski]

gooby plz

[@FocusedGarage]

Good catch haha

[@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq]

Not great. I did a 13' ST from 13-15' and it took lots more mods and a big turbo to match the power of my stock turbo mild bolt on 2010 Cobalt SS. It's to bad Zford didn't put a bigger k04 turbo on it. My SS with just a E55 tune and DP made 325 hp/360 tq at the wheels, whereas my 14' ST required full bolt ons, big turbo and 24 psi on 93 fuel, to hit 330 hp at the wheels and 365 tq. Plus the SS was a sedan and only 3000 lbs vs a base ST at 3220 lbs.

[@FocusedGarage]

+MH motorVlogs small turbo with limited fuel system equals to small gains. But once you put a bigger turbo and aux fuel system, sky is the limit. Most run their cars around 450whp with no problem. And block is good for 750whp. Car is heavy because of all the safety regulations. Thicker beams and more air bags add weight to it.

[@michaelb9757]

I’m stage 3, (explains 700 bucks worth of mods) lol.

[@FocusedGarage]

What did you except?

[@FocusedGarage]

I missed the lesson where a certain amount of dollars equals a certain "stage" of mods.

[@michaelb9757]

The “stage” concept is hearsay and hard Parker speak, always been that way. Only caveat is stage sales usually only done by tuners and engine builders. Not intakes, catbacks, or WWW stickers.

[@Firemedic-qi8yd]

But the stickers add so much more horse power bruh

[@FocusedGarage]

I'm stage 72 now.

[@Jypsu123]

BT ST is totally dailyable........

[@FocusedGarage]

+Jp Zunno it is. So far onder put 20k miles since September.

[@Jypsu123]

Focused Garage That's some good driving!

[@FocusedGarage]

+Jp Zunno thank you

[@Abndrift]

just bought a 2017, What exactly you mean by "Stage 3"

[@FocusedGarage]

+ABn173 we have a great video explaining what mods add power what mods are just for noise and what not. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIm0lJ-jfdOpg80 Stages are made by companies to help them sell their product. You could find more info on Cobb tunings website. However the video I posted above would help you understand which product add power and which doesnt.

[@Abndrift]

Focused Garage I was gonna get the COOB Stage 3 but I'm gonna look into the recommendations on the video you sent me Thank you

[@FocusedGarage]

+ABn173 dont buy the package. It is expensive. If you could find used parts and you dont mind used parts, you could get to "stage3" much cheaper.

[@BradyBell33]

Stock clutch on both cars?

[@FocusedGarage]

+Brady Bell yup!