BIGGEST NERF INCOMING

[@Gameplayokmagyarul]

It is good to see that feedbackgaming is finally doing micro manage!❤

[@FeedbackGaming]

[@LastGoatKnight]

Ohh, magyar spotted! Agysejt aktiválva😊

[@Gameplayokmagyarul]

@LastGoatKnight azaz🤣

[@tritojean7549]

Wow mothership are so op the axis lost all its planes before it enter production

[@JDothan]

Hahahahaha love how he kept showing that he had air superiority from these motherships and ignoring that it was because the axis had 0 planes in the region 😂

[@FeedbackGaming]

XD TRUE. I'll do this again as hungary

[@lefthand4943]

They always ruin the fun.

[@someguycalledcerberus9805]

Is it already nerfed? What happened? I haven't heard.

[@dulguunjargal1199]

It is completely unreliable and pretty much worse than useless IRL but yeah I agree since its alot of research and work to build just one so it deserves to be OP since it was built up to be OP through atleast 3 Years

[@a_person_of_all_time]

"Fun is not allowed" - Paradox Interactive

[@marcorocchi6758]

0:15 I'm sure it's not supposed to actually dogfight, rather be able to carry fighters (why else would they call it a mother ship then?), basically a flying aircraft carrier. There is an istance of an attempt of such a thing in real life: the Zveno Carrier in the Soviet Union, who did get an actual combat test and performed well for its task (it wasn't carrying fighters but dive bombers who had to blow up a bridge). Everytime I look back at the Zveno I can't help but feel that if the Soviets had invested more into it, it would have radically changed the air war 16:01 "Focus on quality, that will pay off in the long run" -Head of Heinschel Design team and Head of Porsche Design team, Germany 1944

[@idratherhidethat6033]

also CL-1201

[@jjquinn295]

The Heinschel company did get a payoff from focus on quality. They made a ton of money building the new railroad stock post war.

[@christopherbelanger6612]

He explained that it doesn't dogfight shortly after. You should wait and watch more before posting next time

[@fatyg5682]

@@christopherbelanger6612 50:52, he says it again. "We are dogfighting over the skies of Japan with massive strategic bombers, make it make sense". Not even sure if he knows what he's talking about sometimes

[@marcorocchi6758]

@christopherbelanger6612 Yeah I saw it but since I was also talking about the Zveno I didn't think it was worth deleting the comment

[@512TheWolf512]

Fun fact - soviet union was the only country that actually built and employed these planes. to attack Romania and Bulgaria. they stopped cause they were slow and easy targets to later planes

[@hyobs_]

TB 3 go brrrrr

[@darkdragonsoul99]

Well I mean if you don't count all the blimp versions

[@PaladinElliott]

i wish the actual designs the US had in the cold war came to life it would've been so cool

[@basswarnow]

From a lore perspective sure. It's some serious Dieselpunk stuff. But aerial refueling is arguably the better solution.

[@centvire7035]

Fun how it actually made by soviets and completed several operations but because it was too expensive project was closed.

[@pimentaze2886]

Yes it was used in romania to RAID strategic targets too far away for normal planes

[@darkdragonsoul99]

Same reason the American nuclear powered version was canceled. come to think of it alot of these ideas from the projects failed mostly on cost and or just physics not cooperating when it comes to the super heavy tanks.

[@brettanderson9633]

Magically annex the Benelux, because, well, just because.

[@Piratewaffle43]

I had no clue that air superiority reduces enemy defense. I thought it was purely to defend CAS.

[@FeedbackGaming]

Pair them together and BOOM thats a lotta damage!

[@PaladinElliott]

i wish you could design the special projects

[@peterfodor7656]

Idk why they decided not to let us design motherships when landcruisers are designable

[@UnknownLord711]

@@peterfodor7656 be cool to make cas or fighter versions

[@Sonic_5342]

Operational Integrity is the meta if it comes to fighters unless you go for naval carriers.

[@AccountNo-fg8fy]

everytime dave says i dont care about ships i cry... navy is the best part of the whole game

[@darthteej1]

Ive found in my current USA campaign they're very useful to project air power to fronts you normally cant affect directly. Allies faction can't put planes in China ane Comintern, but motherships have enough range to provide air superiority over said regions

[@Rico-zq2ej]

Yeah thanks paradox for AI don't having a ability to build Airfields

[@guard_one]

10:43 "SELL SELL SELL, BUY BUY BUY" sounds exactly like a stock exchange over there xd

[@CloudSeven0014]

The amazon blimp strategy

[@6th_Army]

I don't care about nerfs. I don't really think anyone cares about the nerfs. At least not when there are game changing bugs still in play. Like Frances guarantees of Yugo & Romania never expiring until France is at war with them. Or not getting any manpower from core states if the enemy controls that state at any point. Or the game crashing if you complete too many special projects on the same day.

[@Nick-yj8nj]

The historical soviet mothership prototype actually was based on TB3 bomber. It was interwar heavy plane.

[@atomicLord97]

I've unironicly been using heavy fighters with as many heavy machine gun 4x's as I can cram on them, and the highest level engine I can put on it (not the single, always the maximum number of engines I can put on it at the highest level) and with just that I've been sending 600 heavy fighters against 3000 allied fighters as Germany and was losing 1 or 2 at a time while inflicting 25 to 29 shot down at a time. Heavy fighters are stupidly good, its basically like the "Fuck you" button for the air war.

[@thekommunistkrusader3921]

Yeah but the cost to make so many engines is just harsh, its usually better to just put as many heavy mgs with less engines and add either drop tanks for range or self sealing fuel tanks for defense.

[@tobbele1010]

I hate how they literally always take away any fun with exploits and strong stuff away from us. Like if you want to play more fairly just don’t use the strong stuff??

[@darkdragonsoul99]

Also that's kinda the point of these projects they're suppose to be super weapons that implies that are powerful.

[@tobbele1010]

@ yup

[@gonozal8_962]

0:30 you can always play that one mod where you have to lose a set numbers of troops as the soviet union to be able to use focuses yk I like the way this game can ask what ifs, or how could this country fared better if they did x instead. whicv is why the focus tree isn’t just a continous timeline without choices and nobody seriously plays ahistorical AI. but it’s nice to simulate scenarios like "what if germany did built super heavy tanks". pycrete aircraft carriers were seriously contemplated by the US, and mothership zeppelines were very developed and almost used. so mothership aircraft belong in this game more than antigravity generators do

[@josephfenech9401]

51:35 An 222 kill to 8 death ratio. Truly Overpowered.

[@derekcheater]

so nice you could build that supply hub for italy

[@Mmjk_12]

crazy that the USSR actually had these IRL before WW2 started and they were used in successful attacks on Romania as retaliation during Barbarossa

[@Swagmaster07]

There is a reason all of these things were not used in real life. But for the sake of the game ofc they had to make it op.

[@darkdragonsoul99]

Oh that's the thing alot of these things were used in real life and either they sucked or couldn't be produced in enough numbers to matter.

[@cassu6]

It's only OP against AI (just like the light fighters he did). Against a player with light fighters you will be out traded in combat

[@CammieShark]

This would probably be less busted if it was functionally treated as a range extender for unique designed parasite fighter airframes that also needed to be produced. Rather than the classic method of just having army, air, sea xp being used to increase stats

[@tsugoaokigiri3754]

I haven't even had the chance to play with these big boys yet, I swear this is a quicker nerd then the bombers after the plane designer

[@andrewclark3740]

If you went left on the economic/political tree to fix the inefficient economy tree, the reorganize air companies upgrade the Mios I remember. Could be fun to check that out when trying this :)

[@nguyenhan2145]

31:00 yeah incoming raid but not preparing to counter still talking insignificant thing. When facility get stroke said I dont care facility. Well facility needs to maintain to research more things like helicopter not just the special projects in your video

[@DrewPicklesTheDark]

These were so OP they destroyed the Axis' airforce before they even took flight! Jokes aside, idk why they weren't designable in some way. Would be neat to attach certain types of small planes and other stuff to them.

[@josephfenech9401]

25:45 At one point, the Kills to Death Ratio is 16-1. Amazing difference maker.

[@chengzhou8711]

HOI4 really met Ace Combat this update

[@tannerunderwood264]

41:15 you're not wrong for thinking that at all, right side GBP is meta for essentially every country in Vanilla. The entrenchment, planning, night attack and logistics bonuses are just too strong. You did take left side but against AI who can't prevent your planning bonus effectively it's quite good.

[@theeternalsuperstar3773]

To put it simply, imagine an aircraft carrier THAT FLYS!

[@FourtoslavGenrikhovich]

ah yes, french Zveno project, how could we forget

[@02091992able]

HOI 4 can now be a recreation of the plot of Ace Combat 7. Germans oh I mean Belkans at it again.

[@xben9216]

So basically they just made Carriers (StarCraft) available in WW2? Interesting.

[@chrisgay4786]

It makes sense, as HOI4 is actually set in tthe arcade games 1942/1943, where a P38 lighting ccan shoot actual lighting, destory carriers, battleships, and super bombers.

[@thekommunistkrusader3921]

???

[@chrisgay4786]

@@thekommunistkrusader3921 I only read teh title about nerfing stuff. Was hoping it was something useless like armooured cars. watched the vid later anfd foudn out ti wasn't..

[@jaisummons2304]

Spy: I know other languages gets captured at the border. Germany: We caught a spy I want to know how that went

[@thekommunistkrusader3921]

Probably got dropped off at the border, went in, someone said they hate baguettes so she cursed them out in french. Just so happened to be the Abwehr agents

[@acsimark]

You can stop the 1000 cas by two commando general with camo trait ;) make both fieldM so you can assain the trait from.the begining. General Spirit offers to hire such generals.😊

[@sniper1251]

4:16 did not know that u could check who trades material with u lol 790H and did not know that ;D

[@AmericanCaesarian]

I knew about that early on but i haven't checked it in a thousand hours, it's quite useless as my lack of materials is all i check before i get off free trade

[@aisir3725]

Why did paradox made mothership aircraft a op fighter instead of extremely tough bomber is beyond me

[@darkdragonsoul99]

because you also can make intercontinental bombers

[@thekommunistkrusader3921]

Its literally designed to be a mobile airfield for air superiority, Ace Combat 7 style

[@aisir3725]

@thekommunistkrusader3921 the real one used fighters as dive bombers, and after they cropped bombs as escorts

[@thekommunistkrusader3921]

​@@aisir3725 then the best thing i can imagine they change is allow it to do CAS as well and logistic strikes but i dunno

[@cassu6]

The thing is it's not even good when you compare it's cost to the dmg it deals. Normal light fighters built by a player will out trade it any day. Its only redeeming feature is the range, but it's not OP in the slightest

[@andreasottohansen7338]

5:55 Twitter? Nah, even 30s France isn't THAT on fire.

[@kurumachikuroe442]

Those damn Belkans and their weird flying aircraft carriers >:(

[@ZeEvulFirefox]

its just a large air frame with guns but requires extra steps...

[@error7505]

ah yes... Ace Combat France

[@hugoarthurgaming]

It whold be cool to see a black Ice video where you play one of the 3 countrys Iceland or iralend or new Zeeland in black Ice, you can join the axis after barbarosa or at the end of 1942. The idea is to rezist as much as posibile without using bugs or abuse the sistem like the killing divizions in the port. You can use recruit dificulty or civilian. After you join the axis you can send equitment, troops there no rules as long as its not a bug or abusing ai

[@lolmenx4]

Actually monopolies aren't caused by free market but by goverment intervention

[@skylearion57]

I feel like i just watched a how to France instead of a fighter mothership showoff lol. though I learned a lot from this video much appreciated.

[@neuos.t5858]

Bro I did not know this was a thing. I will now be using mothership aircraft!!!

[@josephfenech9401]

47:40 12.27 CAS Damage!! Motherships are indeed OP! Especially if the fighters have cannons.

[@Jack-he8jv]

i fear hearts of iron 4 is getting too complex with these additions, i bet i wouldnt be able to enjoy this game if i tried it today due to how much u need to learn.

[@jean-edouardahmedozzi6120]

Perfect timing for the motion of no confidence that French parliament just voted lmao

[@ricardoblikman2676]

Russia was way way before france, it was so long ago that they had to redesign a couple of times due to the aircraft types getting obsolete!

[@UnstablePyro19]

does adding military police to your occupied garrisons help with compliance and resistance?

[@FeedbackGaming]

No nether. It just reduces the amount of garrisons manpower/equiptment

[@rogerr.8507]

i dont have the dlc but they should add japans submarine carrier

[@Yks-senpai]

I have 4k supersonic fighters, and Brazil has 1,000 junk planes, but 200 mother ships, tanking for them and destroying my fighters that are faster than sound.

[@Hexus99]

@@Yks-senpai First jets were slower than sound, but I get you, balance and hoi4 don't go well together

[@Yks-senpai]

@@Hexus99 No brother, there is literally a supersonic jet in the current game.

[@christopherbelanger6612]

Supersonic jets don't fight at supersonic speed

[@Yks-senpai]

@@christopherbelanger6612 That's not even the issue here...

[@Wo_9]

Arsenal Bird moment

[@PrsimTanker98]

So, no "Ace Combat" styled motherships. Oh darn it

[@redbarongamez2575]

France makes the Ark Bird.. Italy... Just dont nuke us plz... we not Belka

[@boghuhn4952]

2:12 this triggers me so hard

[@TheKlink]

i thought the mothership concept was soviet? edit: also mothership by enter shikari is an awesome song.

[@eliasrjesburg8055]

RAAHHH CONCENTRATED MENTIONED

[@redmilitia117]

The actual name of this the technique are called parasite aircraft

[@carking0138]

I blame this on the Soviets.

[@oliverkromann1902]

4:17 seargent Cross, need for speed most wanted reference?

[@drazig7579]

jesus i was not expecting the spanish dub, i almost shit myself

[@geemcspankinson]

Fun ruined = balance restored

[@IchBinJager]

Did they make it modules for large aircraft in the plane designer now?

[@Rico-zq2ej]

Against player your dumb strategis will be canceled instantly (like building airforce as france,GETTING research slots over fixing your broken country ) but its just funny to watch dumb strategies agaisnt dumb ai i suppose so keep it up dude

[@cassu6]

Yeah it's a shame how ever since I started playing hoi4 mp I can't watch many hoi4 creators anymore. Them preaching stuff that newbies were doing back in 2016 as the "meta" is a bit rough to watch :P

[@scubandym1941]

It is soooo late game I haven’t been able to make it yet

[@Allmightygreat]

NOOOOOOOOOO. It’s meant to be overpowered

[@Sebastian-yl7nq]

He is FeedBackGaming

[@MikeJProto]

Why must paradox ruin literally everything. 1 step forward, 10000 steps back

[@beanman1223]

Can we get an every click Götterdämmerung vid?

[@quirinoguy8665]

No more Arsenal bird.

[@dest3578]

How did you annex luxembourg, belgium and the netherlands at the end?

[@GundamGokuTV]

Dave, homie. Is there a strat you can do with Helicopters? You showed they are used as support companies? But do they have any other uses? I don't have the DLC and I've seen them in videos and been wondering if there's something neat you could do with them.

[@noneed4sleep64]

Helicopter battalions + field hospitals are based, the trickleback and XP modifiers stack so you can have something like -70% XP loss by the late game

[@random_hunt4826]

​@@noneed4sleep64Switzerland can do -95% loses

[@Zestyboyo]

bruh i just realized there is a spanish version of the video, has that always been a thing for his videos?

[@majormissile5596]

Ace Combat shit added to hoi4. Hell yeah

[@BriarOs]

BEES!!!!

[@shrillcrayfish6168]

I want to always use things but them I get strained and need to focuse on real stuff and not meme things.

[@nguyenhan2145]

Real stuff sucks, like German Tiger tank that failed in real life

[@shrillcrayfish6168]

@nguyenhan2145 oh yeah. For sure. Haha what did the Germans say. Their tanks are worth four Sherman's the problem is america always brings 5. We could repair ours way easier then theirs.

[@Interes_no..]

Bro, I don't doubt your knowledge, but the research center is built at the same speed regardless of the level of infrastructure

[@CM-db5cg]

Bullshit, the infrastructure modifier affects construction speed in a province, each level of infrastructure increases the amount the construction speed is mulitplied by 0.2, from a base of 1 to a max of 5 with level 5 infrastructure. This is in the game files, you can look at it yourself, you can also see the modifier in-game.

[@mrfisher1072]

​@CM-db5cg a paradox dev said around the time of release the dlc currently has a bug where infrastructure doesn't affect build speed for research facilities has it changed no idea I haven't played since the first week of release.

[@CM-db5cg]

@@mrfisher1072 I wasen't aware of that bug. That's weird, since in the code ifrastructure affects just construction speed as a whole in the state, it doesn't modify the buildings construction cost directly, so I've no idea how they've managed to fuck that up.

[@Interes_no..]

@@CM-db5cg 🤡🤡🤡

[@Link9058]

@@CM-db5cg you can literally test this for yourself and instead you decided to be confidently incorrect

[@jacehuman5357]

Mr feedback sir i'm looking to get a dlc. I have No Step Back and Waking the Tiger. What should i get next?

[@redmilitia117]

Parasite aircraft cool

[@tresmith4659]

Fun fact about this. Lockheed actually proposed an aircraft called the CL-1201 which would have been just like this. The CL-1201 would have had a wingspan of 340m, been capable of taking off a vertically since it would have been too large for any runway, was to be able to carry 22 fighter aircraft, 2 internal air to ground transports, and to be powered by a nuclear reactor making it capable of 41 days of sustained flight!

[@Drummy_Stuff]

It would all be fine until the first one crashed for some reason, spreading nuclear fuel all over Iowa or some such place. At that point the entire program would have been shut down and after a half dozen Congressional investigations (where Congressmen blame everyone but themselves for choosing the design of the plane) the entire program would be shelved and regularly pointed at in history books as one of those “look how stupid our ancestors were” examples.

[@arnithor5137]

ace combat reference

[@domowomo2125]

Do you like cats?

[@FeedbackGaming]

yes

[@darkdragonsoul99]

NA the mothership is a fucking American idea and also from the 60s. It's actually the worst one in terms of proper time period all the rest are real ideas that really were being worked on at the time.

[@FilipBurovski]

Look up Ace combat 7 if anyone dosen't know how a mothership looks like that will be your answer or ace combat fires of liberation now thats a proper mothership in that game 😂

[@EclipseClemens]

Why do you call them bell-jums instead of Belgians?

[@JuanLopez-ui1iu]

Y desde cuando este canal está en español

[@dodso8705]

hey papa dave nice video, i think i didnt watch it yet

[@AlexisValenzuela-t8e]

Título en español video en inglés ( pésimo servicio )

[@napo4817]

cambia la pista de audio

[@angelespericueta8716]

¿Por qué la ia de voz en español tiene acento argentino?

[@ecktor1916]

Why the Spanish language, I'm from Spain and I don't like it, for me it doesn't worth

[@mariidiote]

Fun ruined

[@jhosmar4383]

Buen video :D

[@wddaww]

Laaaaaaaame

[@painsufferingandcheese]

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