Billy Proctor's rise, how Sevu misses Richie and building for 2027 RWC I ARP

3:04 What are the key skills that made Billy Proctor’s test debut so strong?
4:48 Did McKenzie and Barrett work well as a 10/15 combo against Fiji?
7:01 What are the ABs trying to achieve by kicking away so much ball?
15:20 The key to creating cohesion under new coaching setups
28:27 Why Joe Schmidt’s selections are better than Eddie Jones’
30:17 Which test team enters this World Cup cycle in the best long term position?
34:16 Which rugby metrics do coaches cherish that rugby fans don’t see?
37:58 Will signing Ardie Savea change Moana Pasifika’s results?
40:49 Sevu Reece on Richie Mo’unga, running at props and cameos at halfback
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[@hankgoldenshaft]

I was at the game in SD. It was such a great event, there was really something there for everyone, and a really positive environment. I saw Saffas, Irishmen, Americans, Canadians etc along with Kiwis and Fijians. If you ever get a chance, go so San Diego it will not disappoint. Great people, awesome weather, and the nightlife is off the charts.

[@Wheres_My_Sports_At]

That is the beauty of rugby, it's the respect between the fans which is the standard the players set.

[@Mr_Implausible]

I love rugby, I love the world cup. I love this show? But why on God's green earth are we worried about positioning for 2027, it's 2024?! There is a whole generation of rugby to get through before we can reasonably answer that question?

[@glenndouglas.T]

I thought the same thing.

[@KewKew-do3kq]

They don't have a proper club season in NZ and rugby championship isn't important. If they had the champions cup they would have something to interest them

[@damonenright8867]

​@KewKew-do3kq what do you mean, " proper club season"?

[@AC-hu3xk]

😂

[@danmcgivern4057]

​@@KewKew-do3kqno really cares about Northern Hemisphere club rugby in NZ

[@kp.53]

Bro i would love to see Bryn become a coach one day. Dudes knowledge is insane.

[@rizzmain2232]

Why we even talking about the rwc it's still few years away. 😂focus wining against southafrica first

[@joepunk90]

I love the way this show is growing! Great commentary was always a part. Now you have access to great guests and the content is amazing. My question is, for the next show. How do we balance preserving the scrum - a sacred part of rugby - and player safety? There has been mention of looking at Rugby League style scrums. I feel that the scrum is an integral part of the game and deserves protection, as do the players. Where does the balance lie?

[@fossilmatic]

I thought Blackadder had an average test as a 7 on first impression, especially early in the game (first two touches, two turnovers surrendered). But I wonder now if he was just a bit ahead of the support or, rather, it was slower than him to anticipate the carry. The points made here about the attack fluency of the 9,10,12 makes sense. I do believe ALB made a big impact and made both the loosies and Proctor opportunities from his front foot gain. Likewise, B Barrett’s impact has come as much from his decisive play and assists that just make a split second difference to cross the gain line. I’m willing to question my viewpoint and consider the analysis from Simon here, especially in terms of selection to build coherence. A really good discussion.Thanks.

[@luketahitahi433]

Go watch the breakdown they show Blackadders game he was a beast on and off the ball , or rewatch the game and count how many times he cleans rucks or always on support

[@EGM534]

​@@luketahitahi433 he wasn't that good. He missed 4/11 tackles. Our rucks were a mess too, 20 turnovers

[@luketahitahi433]

@@EGM534 you need to go to spec savers

[@octopusfly]

Brilliant episode! Cheers! ~An American in Korea 🇰🇷

[@Mumbles_]

Big fan of this show and all the rugby chat keep up the good work.

[@deniscoyne5671]

South Africa ofcourse.

[@revenant2979]

Yep, we are literally waiting with baited breath to play the old foe, the mighty All Blacks at Ellis Park again. The Irish tests were awesome and to get packed stadiums in South Africa's huge stadiums (even Portugal) shows how hungry the public is to watch Test rugby. At full strength we were looking at a Rugby Championship "Grand Slam", but we have a huge injury list so 1 away against Oz, 1 each against NZ and 2 Against Argentina with Argintina winning two against Oz and NZ and the mighty Springboks winning the 2024 Rugby Championship 🏉 🇿🇦🏆 🇦🇷🇿🇦🇦🇺 &New 🇳🇿 Zealand🐑

[@kihara4244]

I don't think the Saffas have a problem for 2027 - so many young players already being exposed to test rugby

[@morrischristopher1]

i remember gail lines predictions regarding world cup, SAFFAs shouldn't worry about their opinion too much

[@Wheres_My_Sports_At]

Yeah they have such a large player base to choose from in a country where rugby is a religion so they should be as good as they are. Playing in Europe is an advantage too.

[@101MIGHTYJOE]

Irish fan here. Irelands biggest issue is lack of front row depth. Until we have 4 to 5 internationally quality front row props who dont give up scrum penalties we cant string together the consecutive games needed to win a world cup. Best squads win world cups, not just the best 15

[@styxman500]

The rest of your bench is not up to it either .

[@101MIGHTYJOE]

​@styxman500 if ur talking about props then i totally agree with u but our back up 10 and 4th choice 9 just won us the game against SA with two drop goals. We have great depth at back row with guys like conan and baird and have excellent young talent like izzy and ahern as well as older guys like Henderson (2 times lions tourist) in the 2nd row. Aside from prop depth, a lack of killer speed like will Jordan or kolbe is also lacking

[@gerardbenson1844]

Our wingers are average

[@ronanfurlong1362]

@@styxman500so bench players for Ireland (when everyone is fit) like James Ryan, Ronan Kelleher, Jack Conan, Ryan Baird, Ciaran Frawley, Jamie Osborne, Craig Casey, Bundee Aki et al aren't up to it? I'm genuinely embarrassed for you.

[@LeMerch]

@@ronanfurlong1362 Its such a strange comment to make but 100% bet he's south african.

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

Good luck, Bryn - hope you go ton up.

[@drivesupreme6704]

I find the new BMW M5 absolutely spectacular, looks like a Legend, shows off new age sophistication, performance, overall pure class. I dazzles me. I love it with all my heart.

[@JimmyKip]

Here's a question for the pod... What can NZR do to come up with a more unified Rugby calendar domestically that eliminates these weeks of the doldrums where in the July test window there's only 1-2 games a week in a useful time zone for NZ viewers, and then there's weeks either side with no rugby at all. My Sky sub is basically going unused as I have no interest in the Olympics :) Can the finals of the best club rugby series get televised, can they be finished earlier to bring forward the NPC to start once the 3 July tests are done? Every year there's this weird gap in the middle of winter where Rugby sort of falls off the consciousness because there's nothing happening - surely it would help if there was a seamless transition from Super Rugby ->July Internationals -> NPC -> November Internationals?

[@rabbitss11]

Rieko Ioane's place must be under pressure, his recent form is slightly off whereas Billy Proctor was amazing albeit against Fiji. Also, Proctor's performance was helped by having Anton Lienert-Brown as the other centre, a combination that definitely worked well.

[@ngabushallday6642]

As you say, against Fiji. They were abysmal, poor set piece, didn't contest the breakdown, unforced errors & they gave the All Blacks way too much time on the ball. Fiji & England are worlds apart. The performance of the ABs v Fiji has to be viewed through that lens.

[@Tom_McMurtry]

Reiko's defence has still been massive. Yeah he's not been quite as good at the sleight of hand passing. But I remember last year he was pretty good at getting a quick ball away (an improvement on previous years). I heard others note that this year his role at the blues has been more crash and bash due to how they play so transitioning back would be difficult

[@ngabushallday6642]

@@Tom_McMurtry To be fair to Reiko, he did throw the last passes for Leicester & Ardie to score in that quarterfinal to send Ireland home.

[@Tom_McMurtry]

@@ngabushallday6642 yeah I think he's decent at the quick passes actually where you shuffle it on but not the deceptive quick passes

[@ngabushallday6642]

@Tom_McMurtry The one back to Leicester was pretty special, I thought he was in in the corner, but he summed it up, Bundesliga coming at him hard & very fast, the sideways kinda basketball pass back to Leicester was all class. I think he's a bit down on confidence.

[@jacquesdewet2661]

Whenever I watch this show for some strange reason it always reminds me of a friend of a friend who has the "winning" signed and framed 1995 Rugby world cup All Blacks rugby shirts going mouldy in his attic.

[@joepunk90]

That lie is as mouldy as your perception.

[@jacquesdewet2661]

@@joepunk90 - Shame pal.. does the truth hurt that much?

[@jacquesdewet2661]

@@joepunk90 - Just to clarify because I know people can be stupid. These weren't the shirts worn in the final for obvious reasons.

[@joepunk90]

@@jacquesdewet2661 Fair enough. For obvious reasons - both teams shirts are embroidered before the game. Apologies for my initial comment. It was unnecessary.

[@julianalderson3938]

Hotham didnt let anyone down. We got some depth there thanx

[@izakbisschoff8712]

Click bait ? Your head line doesn’t match the content

[@ss2gora0]

The content we got here was better than that question anyway.

[@Wheres_My_Sports_At]

Love your analysis guys

[@ppDonjuanes]

Excelent and educative!

[@skisikivou8624]

Enjoyed Simon's input.

[@KODE0101]

Lets talk when the world cup comes around 🥱

[@sambeckingsale2542]

Gainline Analytics summarized: cohesion helps a rugby team. That cohesion can be developed throughout the system from a young age. The End!

[@UTubeRepossessions]

lol yep, that’ll be $25k please

[@Tom_McMurtry]

they have stats and outcomes for different factors of things and combinations - combined weightings

[@philbekker2831]

Just a thought, but when Bryn is on the show from Japan, there is a lot of camera flare from either a cheap or damaged ( probably laptop ) lens or too much light going into the camera from somewhere, probably the former. Spoils what is otherwise a great show, both content and technical quality wise. Sorry to complain.

[@corncakes]

love love love gain line analytics!

[@Wheres_My_Sports_At]

Think the idea of more activities and entertainment will improve the game day experience for fans.

[@kidd2hoi524]

Okay. So I've had a thought. To help bring some more interest to our game. Was thinking. After TRC and then after northern tour. The All Blacks apon return should do a nationwide tour. Visiting each region of NZ. A different hub in each reason per each visit. For example. Tauranga then next tour post the second series, Rotorua. Also the smaller places like Gisborne/Manawatū etc Even doing light training runs. And interactions with the public. Not all eggs in one basket but be nice to have a Series Win and see the Players to congratulate them in person. Schools or sports clubs can get involved. Really celebrate our sport and nation. Thank you

[@SamWashkansky]

The game day experience in SA is really good, fan parks and braais, dj in the stadium etc. Just look at Lotus and Kings Park Ireland tests.

[@AshboNZ86]

Why are you focussing on the world cup that's 4 years away??

[@Karma-qt4ji]

Australia. Because they have less distance to travel. As to who might win the comp.... we saw SA go from a 57-0 drubbing by NZ (where SA were lucky to get nil) to back to back RWC titles. So much can happen in a year or two that the entire discussion is ridiculous this far out.

[@ss2gora0]

Very good. I'm impressed with this

[@rob-nz6342]

Proctor had a great game but ALB was even better. With Ioane still failing to impress you discussed Proctor possibly replacing Ioane if he is again poor in the first Argentina test. Why wasn't ALB also discussed as a possible Ioane replacement? ALB played very well at Centre throughout Super Rugby for the Chiefs. Given starting experience is so important at centre if Ioane needs replacing then surely starting ALB at centre with Proctor off the bench is a more experienced option than starting Proctor.

[@SalvatoreDAgostino_0]

Go Buzzy, Go Mystic River, love the ARP

[@HighBoss]

Love hearing from the gainline analytics guys.

[@UTubeRepossessions]

I didn’t hear him say anything insightful, just common sense - although I’m assuming he’s deliberately obscuring the actual metrics etc he uses. Would love to know how they developed their metrics, ie were they based on some rugby knowledge/assumptions, or did they mine the data and discover some interesting correlations…

[@davidlewis3773]

The amount of degrees of freedom in a physical system that spans 5 year is so extraordinarily large (what caused the missed tackle) that to attempt to draw statistical inferences should be a marker for immediate psychiatric evaluation.

[@Endeavour02]

Should NZ under 20s play as a team in our NPC competition. And at the end go on a draft system to one of the 5 super franchises. But drafted in there units. 8/9/10/15 go to the chiefs say? Front row and locks to the Blues. And have a rotation system each year

[@brentwithey4241]

No they best to go to their npc franchises as a lot of these players won't mature beyond that.

[@casscassy9174]

I read a comment somewhere, someone saying Reiko is looking a bit stale at the moment. 🤔🤔🤔 true?

[@ngabushallday6642]

The main criticism is his inability lately of not being able to get the ball to his winger or fullback, when he's under intense defensive pressure. He defends well, hits the ball up well, but he's not distributing the ball under pressure. He missed a couple of opportunities v england where the pass was on, but he instead takes the tackle & the opportunity is gone. Fiji didn't bring the same defensive line speed on Saturday, hence ALB & Proctor had a field day.

[@Tom_McMurtry]

@@ngabushallday6642 good sumary

[@philbekker2831]

@@Tom_McMurtry. And, why does he have to have his own uncoordinated version of the hake ??????

[@timgregory82]

That's an ouch for Ireland

[@dcactivedad]

Is this the same guys (Gain line) that said to you guys Ireland was gonna win the World cup 😅? GO BOKKE 🇿🇦 🇿🇦 🇿🇦

[@MosesMatsepane]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣These so-called analytics and prediction tools are a scam.

[@ngabushallday6642]

I have the quarterfinal where the All Blacks knock them out on my sky box, I've watched it perhaps 10 times since I watched it live. Never gets old.

[@Steve-gr6jm]

​@@ngabushallday6642 Glad to know beating us means so much to you.

[@stephendoherty981]

​@ngabushallday6642 That's funny. I have the final match of the Irish series win in NZ two years ago saved on my Vodafone box recordings. I never tire of watching that either!

[@Tom_McMurtry]

they said Ireland were favourites - not that it's a sure thing

[@khankake9576]

USA

[@lukejohnson3361]

I don't think Gain Line man deserved this amount of air-time. Last years predictions didnt work out to well for there credibility.

[@MikeDeBeer-ql6jw]

Your title and contend didnt match up very well. Felt like a waisted an hour. Sorry but that was my experience

[@CoolCoyote]

big score line? nope. Hotham aswome, proctor good, need to throw riko away for good. sititi nope should have been the canes number 8 iosie hes faster and got more punch. finau nope . both front rows a big yes. except for laboured taylor who cant throw under pressure. aumua excellent. jordie is good but needs to work on his coms ,seems other players like rece dont know when hes going to pass to him.(however if you are playing a game like rugby you should always expect passes regardless, you need to be alert for anything) so i dont except reces poor catch. bb excellent ,shame we have dmac who runs across field still and no jk I cant agree with you on the rL stand-off. robertson should play proctor all the time but with jordie since its a combo thing. n.z rugby were mad to get rid of Laumapi and also not consider the other lethal power runner Leicester Fainga'anuku both should have been considered in the midfield along with a play maker. clarke nope he lacks awareness, you go back to lomu how great he was when he made a strong run he would always look to offload to another at the end of it, its just a natural player verses a non natural player. alb? yes he past the test for me hes in. Blackadder is the guy now hes in by miles however hes a 6 not a 7, but it doesnt matter so much these days since everyone has to get over the ball. sam darry yes hes in. we have short locks that is concerning to a point, I say that since Otojay is a short lock but he plays like a 6 but can jump high. so it is possible. i have to say finau is not the answer for our kaino type 6 hes also shorter at 193 hes not a tall 6 ,same height as paps. kaino was basically a slimmer version of lomu at 6'5 but only 110kg. im very happy wiht out half backs and front rows.

[@CoolCoyote]

n.z rugby obviously are not putting great impetus on u20 level , they haven't for awhile now, thats a shame.

[@Wheres_My_Sports_At]

They have reinstituted the u20's comp with the other Rugby Championship teams.

[@CoolCoyote]

@@Wheres_My_Sports_At thats not answering the question. 'impetus' recourses, time and money. and coaching . we started well, but that was years ago now, we used to be the best at this level. also the recent lacking 7s effort, same thing, we should be using our best players at this 1 off event the olympics use, savea, use blackadder, use Jordan, use our best all blacks just like the Ferns do. a gold medal is above anything.

[@robertmariu6783]

Kicking long cos of a lack of initiative in attack ! Let's see the newbies against a stronger team .

[@MagicHu]

New Zealand don’t do rugby world cups three years out…ok ,,that’s a South African thing

[@oldblack15]

Reading some bok supporters only care for the worldcups? A good excuse for only winning 4 rugby championships in how many years?

[@KODE0101]

​@@oldblack15 We'll trade those for another 4 world cups🤔

[@TaniaFabricks]

​@@oldblack15and? We won it against all odds ngl With the hype that either France or Ireland is gonna win Heck that quarter final was way too much for me I thought we might lose against France

[@oldblack15]

@@TaniaFabricksall those quarters were huge. Thought nz did well considering we really did not appreciate one of the worst ab coach in recent memory. A majority of kiwis wanted razor in 2 years ago(4 years ago) despite all the issues with team selection and coach nz still made the final. Think how a good coach with better players might go?

[@andynicoletti7789]

Strategic goals, do we focus on World Cup or rugby championships?

[@toanz4869]

2 mins on the world best player going to Moana and it was a negative lol

[@misterlee.f3967]

So which country is best placed for the 2027 Rugby World Cup? Did we get a final answer ?

[@julianalderson3938]

Proctor just wanta c em out there' brown was great strong carries fast feet. Cheers

[@jaymac72]

Seriously? Guys check the calendar. IT'S 2024.

[@STEOKEO]

Ah lads, come on. England lost the semi final by a point with a rabble of a team. NZ got to the final after their worst 4 year cycle ever. This 4 year cycle thing is nonsense. World Cup knockout rugby is a different sport altogether. The scoreboard moves in 3’s. You can cobble together 15 lads on the eve of the tournament. Ride the crest of emotion or bad refereeing decisions and luck , and get to the final.

[@joelyons886]

Also has a lot to do with the draw for the Pools in a WC 100% agree WC rugby is manage your pool and conserve and then come KO stage kick kick kick and keep board ticking over.

[@subbie5498]

england got 5 nice games of practice to beat sa and still lost nz had 1 hard must win game and still lost

[@michaelstk2817]

Yep, just ask Ireland.😂

[@Poppillon]

Meh, much of what this analytic is saying sounds like it's based on beliefs more than data

[@sanjivat]

Will Samisoni, Will Jordan , Cam Roigard, TJ , Josh Lord and Patrick T be available for rugby championship?

[@mitchellzimri8257]

Jordan, TJ and Paddy yes, Roigard not yet (he is targeting the japan game en-route to Europe/UK) soni is a no and unsure of Lord

[@BraziwiSteve]

Josh Lord is back training with Taranaki, so he’s apparently available. Think he might’ve been training with the ABs a bit during the English series too.

[@RhozarioDeBoer]

I should like to see Perofheta on second receiver more creative skillfull and have and eye for a gap he also can produce far better than Jodie Jodie put any center under alot of pressure can't pass properly

[@Tom_McMurtry]

stephen is far too small for that

[@hanoitripper1809]

36:23 😂😂😂

[@peterrose8944]

The water is getting very muddy...

[@phillipmiga3961]

It's easy to pass tests n fail Lil bit but if you fail the final exams (world cup final) it will sound like you wasted 4 years

[@KODE0101]

Their headline never matches their content 💀

[@jameswatkins1844]

Can’t think of an ab I wana listen to less than sevu Reece

[@jamiebsaunders]

I'd be interested to hear his thoughts on the chch sports star who stole a car and drove it into a garage

[@WhoAmEye187]

I'd say Sam cane or Scott Barrett would be worse 😂

[@Tom_McMurtry]

he was pretty interesting here - suprised me

[@jasonp8691]

Cant think of a less interesting comment.

[@jamiebsaunders]

@@jasonp8691 yea you can mate - re read yours

[@ericmarseille2]

Not France, we now have proof that no matter how superior we are, we'll never win the RWC. Anglo-Saxons rule Rugby, and want it to stay so.

[@petes9524]

Merde,Napoleon spinning in his grave! Stiffen your weak knees, regardè the French Huguenot offspring in the 4x Springbok RWC, world no 1 champion team😄

[@subbie5498]

france lack bmt

[@mikedee171]

A bit early?

[@JuicyJLee]

Ireland 😂

[@lockk132]

Sorry boks ,you don't travel well in Aussie.The winner will be either Aussie, NZ or France

[@ianjacobs2998]

😊😜

[@petes9524]

Who's won the most RWCs away?

[@lockk132]

@petes9524 wow you beat us twice by a single kick in each final ,don't get too excited

[@ianjacobs2998]

@@lockk132 🏆🏆🏆 🏆 Bokke haven't lost in a final.Bokke have won 50% of all W.Cups they've played in! Played in 2 W.C less than NZ,Australia ( Mr.smug troll 😊🤗🤣)

[@lockk132]

@ianjacobs2998 jee only won 50%,that's not very good

[@2ztala]

Not good to hear a player promoting someone who is not part of the team. Not good for team spirit especially with a strong Crusaders management group. Should be shut down.

[@brentwithey4241]

Ethan Blackacdder did very little well in this test, come on Bryn putt he cantab bias away. He should now firmly been looked at as blinside only or dropped full stop. Daulton proved against England he is miles in front of blackadder

[@SMacCuUladh]

Brn Hall doesn't have a personality.

[@Intergalatikk]

Cope