Ancient Wisdom for Today: Three Stories from Desert Monks

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The Table | Biola CCT

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@samanthahill2925
@samanthahill2925 5 жыл бұрын
"It's that we learn to live for God, right where we are." I needed that today 😊❤
@lincolncity9
@lincolncity9 6 жыл бұрын
Ancient wisdom for modern times. You can take the monk out of the desert but you can't take the desert out of the monk.
@TheRealRealOK
@TheRealRealOK 6 жыл бұрын
Of course this is still relevant today. The Eastern Orthodox Church doesn’t change and the ancient wisdom still applies.
@patrickmac2799
@patrickmac2799 5 жыл бұрын
The Desert Fathers existed before an eastern or western church.
@JimOverbeckgenius
@JimOverbeckgenius 3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickmac2799 The Alexandrian Theology of Orthodoxy is what the Desert Fathers taught, from Origen, Anthony, Athanasius Cyril et al
@viidakkomehu9533
@viidakkomehu9533 3 жыл бұрын
wow u dam noobs, ancient wisdom would mean that u would know that bible is bs. And that ancient wisdom would A LOT older than bible.
@TheRealRealOK
@TheRealRealOK 3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickmac2799 No they didn’t. What are you talking about? Do you know who the desert Fathers are?
@TheRealRealOK
@TheRealRealOK 3 жыл бұрын
@@viidakkomehu9533 Go tell someone who wants to listen to your nonsense.
@brattyyoung1917
@brattyyoung1917 6 жыл бұрын
Thank You Jesus!!!Keep saving me.😊🙏😊
@goranvuksa1220
@goranvuksa1220 5 жыл бұрын
@paul w Religion is practice of spirituality, so any practice of spirituality is religion. And bad practice is bad religion will get you "bad" spirituality.
@lifefoundinhim
@lifefoundinhim 5 жыл бұрын
paul w Jesus died so you can go to Heaven. Your sins can be forgiven if you ask for Jesus to make you who He wants you to be. Life is one, don’t reject the love of God or you will be eternally separated from Him.
@eho6380
@eho6380 3 жыл бұрын
@@lifefoundinhim Jesus is a Prophet and there's no Salvation in him dying. There's only Salvation when we enter the Paradise.
@viidakkomehu9533
@viidakkomehu9533 3 жыл бұрын
wow u dam noobs, ancient wisdom would mean that u would know that bible is bs. And that ancient wisdom would be A LOT older than bible.
@SonuYadav-hd5qk
@SonuYadav-hd5qk 4 жыл бұрын
Thank u Jesus!!!!, Keep saving me.
@barbaraaspengen9810
@barbaraaspengen9810 3 жыл бұрын
What a wise person you are. Thanks
@jessiesnider7704
@jessiesnider7704 6 жыл бұрын
I am thrilled! I hear someone speaking about such with the same emotions as I .
@obeyjesus1973
@obeyjesus1973 6 жыл бұрын
Would you like to hear the true word of God?
@rebeccawatt9386
@rebeccawatt9386 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutly awesome!! Thanks so much for sharing this with us, what a blessing!!
@BiolaCCT
@BiolaCCT 6 жыл бұрын
you're very welcome! Jerry Sittser is also in our most recent podcast on the vice of Acedia: cct.biola.edu/fighting-noonday-demon-kathleen-norris-acedia-boredom-desert-spirituality/
@obeyjesus1973
@obeyjesus1973 6 жыл бұрын
Do you want to hear what Jesus Christ has to say?
@frantisekmicek5030
@frantisekmicek5030 4 жыл бұрын
@@obeyjesus1973 WHAT???
@tonethetallbaldy5039
@tonethetallbaldy5039 3 жыл бұрын
Rebecca maybe it's a sinful statement but you are beautiful. Bless you in your search sister.
@viidakkomehu9533
@viidakkomehu9533 3 жыл бұрын
wow u dam noobs, ancient wisdom would mean that u would know that bible is bs. And that ancient wisdom would be A LOT older than bible.
@Mark-yb1sp
@Mark-yb1sp 4 жыл бұрын
These stories have encouraged me today. Thank you. 😊
@fractaled3129
@fractaled3129 5 жыл бұрын
These were beautiful stories, thank you.
@sinfulyetsaved
@sinfulyetsaved 5 жыл бұрын
I wish protestants could see.. The deep wisdom and the fullness of the faith within orthodox if we lived in an orthodox world where the people did thier very best to live it out ... Heaven would come down to earth..
@lelandhumphrey3450
@lelandhumphrey3450 4 жыл бұрын
Who says they don't. Pray for them and don't wish
@Ioannikios174
@Ioannikios174 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a former protestant and was baptized into the Holy Orthodox Church this past Saturday. There are many who are converting!
@Lasharella
@Lasharella 2 жыл бұрын
Last hit me very hard I really needed this right now
@fritula6200
@fritula6200 3 жыл бұрын
This is Holiness. To be aware, everything must be Christ centered. Jesus loves to pour out His Mercy into our souls.
@veradowns2736
@veradowns2736 3 жыл бұрын
Last story is the best story!
@magdadrague
@magdadrague 4 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Bulgaria!
@cathyhhhgfluffybissessur5780
@cathyhhhgfluffybissessur5780 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@dagoat8991
@dagoat8991 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing stories
@zereacristosnew6634
@zereacristosnew6634 4 жыл бұрын
This is so beautiful. I learned a lot in 7 minutes amazing 💜
@mannytorrez2138
@mannytorrez2138 2 жыл бұрын
Wow beautiful powerful
@shalommussie7883
@shalommussie7883 4 жыл бұрын
I've been asking the same question for months now that we'd have to leave the city to become sanctifies, this answered it. Worship, praise and honour the Lord whether you are in the city, dessert or even monastery.
@viidakkomehu9533
@viidakkomehu9533 3 жыл бұрын
wow u dam noobs, ancient wisdom would mean that u would know that bible is bs. And that ancient wisdom would be A LOT older than bible.
@rushidhruva
@rushidhruva 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful wisdom,thanks:)
@obeyjesus1973
@obeyjesus1973 6 жыл бұрын
Would you like to learn about Jesus Christ?
@viidakkomehu9533
@viidakkomehu9533 3 жыл бұрын
wow u dam noobs, ancient wisdom would mean that u would know that bible is bs. And that ancient wisdom would be A LOT older than bible.
@bonniebucklaw4143
@bonniebucklaw4143 5 жыл бұрын
I liked the stories
@mongoharry
@mongoharry 6 жыл бұрын
To be morally virtuous, you have to possess strength. Mary and Martha might be thought of as two sides of our own personality. Not only does Mary need Martha, but she can only be as spiritual as Martha can be can be hard working.
@marymarysmarket3508
@marymarysmarket3508 Жыл бұрын
The Orthodox Church is the ancient faith. These are our teachers...taught by the apostles and martyrs ☦️
@helenyates3951
@helenyates3951 3 жыл бұрын
Paradox is always present in life as in Mary and Martha. Both are needed in living.
@andrewnichols2395
@andrewnichols2395 6 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the reference for the story of Macarios? I am trying to find it.
@imjustwatchingyoutube8725
@imjustwatchingyoutube8725 18 күн бұрын
Where can I find these stories in the conferences?
@Trulipy
@Trulipy 6 жыл бұрын
Luke 14:33 (KJV) "So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple." Luke 12:33-34 (KJV) "[33] Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth. [34] For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." Matthew 6:19-21 (KJV) "[19] Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: [20] But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: [21] For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." Matthew 6:24-34 (KJV) "[24] No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. [25] Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? [26] Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? [27] Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? [28] And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: [29] And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. [30] Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? [31] Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? [32] (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. [33] But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. [34] Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof." Matthew 28:19-20 (KJV) "[19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: [20],Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen." John 14:15 (KJV) "If ye love me, keep my commandments." John 14:21, 23-24 (KJV) "[21] He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. [23] Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. [24] He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me." We must obey Jesus, as Christians. Stop working for money, for the food and drink that perishes! Did Jesus do that? Did Paul do that? Did Peter do that? Did John do that? No, and for those that had done it, like Peter, they left all and followed Jesus. We *need* to do this too. Matthew 7:21 (KJV) "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Matthew 6:24 (KJV) "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." We have to serve God to do His will. We cannot enter Heaven without doing His will. We cannot serve Him and do His will if we also serve mammon, or money. Quit your job and work for God! He *commands* us to do this! Your eternal destination depends greatly on this one simple thing! Please, do it, but not for me, but for both God and you!
@StefanDruga16
@StefanDruga16 5 жыл бұрын
You do realise this is not the only way and if everyone quit their job, society will crumble, right? Adam was called to be a co-creator, a developer of this world and in him all of us are. There needs to be an equilibrium between fasting and prayer, and both should be done for the glory of God.
@tonethetallbaldy5039
@tonethetallbaldy5039 3 жыл бұрын
@@StefanDruga16 If everyone in the world became desert fathers and mothers then the human race would have served it's purpose.
@Msilly52
@Msilly52 5 жыл бұрын
Ok...I understand but we must put in our part and God steps in with his Mercy...if we don't do our part then we fail many times until we do...it's just like smoking, so many people quit but 4 or 7 or 1 years goes by and they return to smoking...so for it to happen one must be ready to stop, and think of the feeling we have when we fail and not want to be in those moments, and say to God I am ready, help me and God does...and time passes and there is no longer a thought of those moments....one must put in our part and then it works.
@tomthomas5144
@tomthomas5144 6 жыл бұрын
Where can I read these stories from?
@jessiesnider7704
@jessiesnider7704 6 жыл бұрын
Tom Thomas You can read such in books titled DESERT FATHERS. . anything that says desert fathers . Also a great collection is the PHILOKALIA...there are 3 separate volumes. Enjoy my brother.. They are packed with pearls of great wisdom. Anazon has many books re: desert fathers. .. Used etc....
@SocratesPh.D
@SocratesPh.D 6 жыл бұрын
these stories are from St. John Cassian's "Conferences"
@maximosbehnan6797
@maximosbehnan6797 6 жыл бұрын
these and many other stories from the desert monks can be found in the book Paradise of the monks, which you can find here or many other places. www.amazon.com/Paradise-Holy-Fathers-1/dp/0980517141 these are the stories and sayings of the desert fathers of Egypt. Enjoy
@Spiritus.Fortis
@Spiritus.Fortis 3 жыл бұрын
Oh the untained beauty and straight doctrines of Orthodox Christianity, which preserved faith and the doctrines of our Lord God as received from Him and His disciples and apostles of the early church. Just look at the outcome....St Anthony the Great, St. Pachomiue the Great, St. Macarius the Great, St. Athanasius, St. Samuel the Confessor, St. Moses, St. Maurice, and many many more amazing Saints who light the sky of the COPTIC ORTHODOX CHURCH. If only we can translate everything...all these jewels and share them with the hungry world. I know these three stories and more from the Coptic Orthodox Church and regarding the third story, this is what the two women said: “There is no kinship between us and when we married these two brothers we asked them to leave us to be nuns but they refused. So we committed ourselves to spend our life fasting until evening and we pray diligently. When each of us had a son, whenever one of them would cry, any one of us would carry and nurse him even if he was not her own son. We are in one living arrangement, the unity of opinion is our model, and our husbands work as shepherds, we are poor and only have our daily bread and what is left over we give to the poor and needy.”
@SLVBULL
@SLVBULL 5 жыл бұрын
Stories from philokalia
@merryarttoonesakamarysusan559
@merryarttoonesakamarysusan559 3 жыл бұрын
obnoxious background music thankfully doesnt last...
@touxiong519
@touxiong519 4 жыл бұрын
Such funny stories told by Pride.
@sinfulyetsaved
@sinfulyetsaved 5 жыл бұрын
Its called orthodoxy smh
@joycorcoran5682
@joycorcoran5682 3 жыл бұрын
SAINTS are NOT FANATICS. READ ABOUT SAINT VERONICA GILLIANI ( WAS SHE A FANATIC?) WHO WAS?...
@joycorcoran5682
@joycorcoran5682 3 жыл бұрын
No SAINT .
@EMDEEW
@EMDEEW Жыл бұрын
these stories are a bit mediocre at best, with due respect. Want to hear great stories? Listen to ron Rolheiser. Funny, witty, razor sharp, irreverent, and acknowleding the deep and dark despair of being human.
@CHRISHADDON1010
@CHRISHADDON1010 4 жыл бұрын
well is Iv ever hear of a lot of rubbish this is it. there are so many gods and they not real and all the god stories are made up. if there was a god he would be able to speak for hime is it self, you people think you cleave by talking such nonsense and stupid people listen to this crap. what is wrong with just living normally and happy. people can have morals that donr harm other people its normal to love others and be honorable
@montsemajanmartinez9824
@montsemajanmartinez9824 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps try some new rationale? Maybe something no one hasn't heard already a million times? Perhaps one of your *own* creation? In spite of all God continues to love you. Keep trying!
@Logan-tx3lk
@Logan-tx3lk 4 жыл бұрын
May God open your eyes
@ruzickaw
@ruzickaw 6 жыл бұрын
These are the old useless stories of the desert monks. Fighting lust? Whatfore? By the grace of God you overcome it? Why should you? If God createtd man )evolution did) than God built in lust into human nature, so it is natural. Live it, use it , but dont wate your life with such a useless struggle. Besides: living in the desert is dangerous. Go back into the city and work and life a normal life and these useless problems will not accure because you will not have time for them,.
@maximosbehnan6797
@maximosbehnan6797 6 жыл бұрын
Lust is something that God built in humans to keep the race, so that is not the argument or the battle, but how it's used and controlled. If you control your lust then you are a spiritual person able to keep the body and the desires under the control of the spiritual mind, however, if lust controls you and your mind, then there IS a struggle, the one these people went through and many of us do as well. It's the struggle to be the one in control of our needs, desires, lusts, decisions, and actions instead of being controlled by all these. The story says only God, who according to you and I agree, created these desires in us, only him can grant us the grace to overcome them and subject them to the power of the spirit.
@TheRealRealOK
@TheRealRealOK 6 жыл бұрын
ruzickaw You clearly don’t understand the ancient Monastic traditions of Eastern Christianity. Without monks, the world is done.
@ruzickaw
@ruzickaw 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealRealOK With monks the world is done. Nobody works the fields, nobody has children, the old people are left alone, no schools, just stupid old religion. How great!
@StefanDruga16
@StefanDruga16 5 жыл бұрын
@@ruzickaw there are literally monks working there. Did you even watch the video? Monks kickstarted schools and hospitals, at least in the Orthodox East, the first hospitals and schools appeared in monasteries' yards and the first doctors and teachers were monks. Had it not been for these people we'd still be living in the Dark Ages. Leave the fedora for a moment and actually think, don't fall for the "I'm an atheist so I'm smart". Just as Heisenberg said: "a small sip from the glass of science leads one to atheism, but God is always waiting at the bottom of the glass".
@SLVBULL
@SLVBULL 5 жыл бұрын
ruzickaw remember the world hated me before it hated you.
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