Birdshot for Home Defense?

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hickok45

hickok45

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@delles1548
@delles1548 Күн бұрын
Back in the late 1980's, I was working part-time with an EMS, and on one Saturday afternoon, we received a call to respond to a shooting at a private residence. Upon arrival and after entering the home via the side kitchen door, we saw blood on the kitchen floor that led us into the near adjacent utility/laundry room. There we found the GSW victim lying on the floor with a golf ball sized hole in his right upper quadrant. While the patient was barely awake and in severe pain, he was very delirious and had bled out copious amounts. After we rolled him over, we could see several small exit wounds from his right shoulder blade. Though we knew this patient was not going to make it, we began applying treatments for a sucking chest wound and back shoulder, IV's, pressure shock splints, etc, etc. Turns out, this patient had been shot at about 20-21 feet via 12 gauge with a full choke using a load of #6 shot "Duck and Pheasant" 2-3/4" shell load, 3 3/4 - 1 1/4 load. Investigation revealed he had illegally entered the shooter's home via the side kitchen door, with a 38 pistol in hand, he confronted the home owner who ran down the hallway and into the master bedroom. In the process, the intruder fired 2 shots at the homeowner but missed, but suddenly, the homeowner stepped back into the hallway with shotgun in hand and with one round, he sent the intruder falling backwards into the utility room and his death. During my life, I've seen a fair amount of GSW's, an except for a high powered deer rifle to the head at point blank, I have never seen a more devastating body impact than that load of #6 high power from a full choke. The x-rays revealed incredible damage to the top of the lungs, ribs, shoulder, etc with numerous shot ricocheting throughout the right chest cavity.
@maximilianmustermann5763
@maximilianmustermann5763 Күн бұрын
High-powered bird shot with greater shot-weight can be very different from low-powered #7.5. With a 3 3/4 magnum shell I can imagine almost every shot size down to #8 would be absolutely devastating at close range inside a house. But there's even 2.75 inch shells with high-powered loads and 34 to 36 grams of #5 shot that I think would instantly kill a person inside a 15 yards radius.
@delles1548
@delles1548 Күн бұрын
@@maximilianmustermann5763 I had a friend who killed a nice 10 point Eastern Whitetail with a "Field Load", 3 1/4 - 1 1/8, #6 shot while rabbit hunting. Deer came out of the thicket about 5-6 yards away.
@nateh2652
@nateh2652 Күн бұрын
Thats interesting because we had a call with an attempted self deletion where the kid leaned over the muzzle of his shotgun in his ex gfs from yard and pulled thr trigger. He had heavy duck load and it didnt reach any vital organs. The wound was down right nasty, but he survived waiting as we staged for law enforcment to clear the scene, then the time it took to stabalize him and get to the hospital. He made a full recovery. Birdshot seems to be a roll of the dice, sometimes its devastating, sometimes it simply looks gruesome but is superficial. If given the choice, one would be a fool to chose it over buckshot. But pressed into use its nothing to laugh at
@pimpovic2
@pimpovic2 3 сағат бұрын
I believe every word of this. Years ago I watched a test of different shot sizes and their effectiveness for home defense. They concluded that #4 shot was the sweet spot for this scenario. A couple years back, I saw some #4 shot come up on sale so I bought 3 boxes of 25. In the last couple years I've shot only 10 rounds. Little did I know at that time, that not all #4 is created equal. I bought #4 waterfowl, 3 inch steel shot, 1 1/5oz running at 1550fps. Holy heck, those things kick like full on Zombie slug loads out of my Beretta 1301. It's too light for rounds like that and it punished my shoulder. I can't imagine what it would do to flesh at 15-25 feet away. Gnarly.
@leewafer6583
@leewafer6583 Күн бұрын
Paul Harrell, did a similar vid years ago. using walls of sheetrock spaced to show how far different loads penetrated through walls, using mostly a 12 gauge, loaded with #9 through #8, #6 bird shot. He also set up a meat target, using ribs, over a a heart etc dressed in a shirt wearing a hoodie at reasonable ranges of home defense think it was around 10 yards
@jeremygibson3643
@jeremygibson3643 Күн бұрын
The "You be the judge" statements sprinkled throughout reminded me of him. RIP, Paul.
@Ash_95
@Ash_95 Күн бұрын
Glad others remember that series of vids he did on bird shot. I thought Harrell's vids were pretty convincing that bird shot is not completely ineffective like urban legend would have you believe.
@kevinkelly5430
@kevinkelly5430 Күн бұрын
That series convinced me birdshot will do more than enough. Go for the groin the arteries are less protected from other tissue.
@californigirl
@californigirl Күн бұрын
Oh I remember that video!
@vonsauerkraut
@vonsauerkraut Күн бұрын
But that only works in American cardboard houses
@Ryarios
@Ryarios Күн бұрын
Keep in mind that for home defense, most rooms are around 10-15 feet across with a few room going out to 20 feet. So, the majority of encounters will be inside those distances, so birdshot is still going to act a lot like a slug at 7-10 feet.
@jimb96828
@jimb96828 Күн бұрын
Exactly and will not go thru the perpetrator and the sheetrock wall killing or injuring grandma in her rocker in the adjoining Room !
@WantedArgonianMale
@WantedArgonianMale Күн бұрын
@@jimb96828 but then the perp gets to make a teary-eyed testimony to a jury, landing you in prison
@stevemelancon6207
@stevemelancon6207 Күн бұрын
Agree 💯%
@barelylewd4549
@barelylewd4549 Күн бұрын
I guarantee you take a face full of birdshot and your gonna lose all the fight you had in you.
@TheGundyShow
@TheGundyShow Күн бұрын
If you have something like a shockwave....I feel like that would improve spray pattern at 10 ft ish. Right?
@TwitchellBrookFarm
@TwitchellBrookFarm Күн бұрын
in most home disturbances birdshot will "stop" someone from whatever they're doing. Buckshot will cancel their Christmas
@MilitaryFusion
@MilitaryFusion Күн бұрын
What about Thanksgiving? 🤔
@xxRamD3yruxx
@xxRamD3yruxx Күн бұрын
​@@MilitaryFusion thanks will be given to the homeowner for unburdening the tax payer
@icyrene1
@icyrene1 16 сағат бұрын
Well put
@waynelovejr.1005
@waynelovejr.1005 Күн бұрын
A 12 gauge shotgun is deadly, even out to 100 yards with slugs. I used an 870 Remington most of my life. I fired thousands of rounds of various shot sheels and hundreds of slugs. It was totally reliable and very deadly. I love shotguns!
@stephenzen7247
@stephenzen7247 Күн бұрын
The 870 Remington is a nice shot gun.
@Thenatureboy801
@Thenatureboy801 Күн бұрын
I'm running a Mossberg590 and can confirm, shotguns are easily the most versatile weapons in the world, breaching doors, hunting, home defense, I've also seen buckshot pellets still hit a target with fatal damage all the way out to 100 yards! They're also shining in urban warfare against drones too with wider spread pellets.
@tullo5564
@tullo5564 Күн бұрын
​@@Thenatureboy801 i agree, people underestimate shotguns, especially bird and buckshots.
@craigerickson6308
@craigerickson6308 Күн бұрын
The advantage of birdshot vs buck is it being less likely to ruin your neighbors day.
@YouTubeHandlesAreMoronic
@YouTubeHandlesAreMoronic Күн бұрын
Yep. About the only reason to recommend birdshot is for scenarios like apartment living.
@MsBleau
@MsBleau Күн бұрын
An less sheetrock to repair
@DK-gy7ll
@DK-gy7ll Күн бұрын
If you live in an apartment complex you may have to forego the added power of buckshot and stick with birdshot whether you want to or not. The last thing you want is to add collateral damage to the list of reasons why it was a really bad day for you.
@Ryarios
@Ryarios Күн бұрын
@@craigerickson6308 eh, I never liked my neighbor anyway… (Yes, I’m kidding. I agree with the poster.)
@psihigh7721
@psihigh7721 Күн бұрын
Stop the threat. I’m stacking the odds in my favor.
@davidwildridge8080
@davidwildridge8080 Күн бұрын
Conclusion: don’t use a trash can lid to shield yourself against shotgun fire.
@donaldramey1896
@donaldramey1896 Күн бұрын
I recommend a 33 gallon yard waste bag for full body protection.
@Andrew-ix6ni
@Andrew-ix6ni Күн бұрын
Close enough any shell will work
@dgunearthed7859
@dgunearthed7859 Күн бұрын
I've got between 15-20 yards from me to a potential bad guy in my house. Id be willing to take my chances even w #8 bird shot. But you're right...the closer you are, the more that swarm of bird shot acts more like a slug.
@seeharvester
@seeharvester Күн бұрын
Sea shell?
@dashcammer4322
@dashcammer4322 Күн бұрын
@@seeharvester By the sea shore.
@DonutVIP
@DonutVIP Күн бұрын
4 shot for me, 3 inch turkey load don't play at that range
@johnross5909
@johnross5909 Күн бұрын
I was 14 home alone. Bird shot out of a .410 pealed the skin back of the face the guy that came threw the window. He left the way he came in. Never heard what became of him. Sheriff asked if I reloaded before he left to look for the guy. Tha was a much more logical time 30++ years ago in CA.
@nthekitchen162
@nthekitchen162 Күн бұрын
I wouldn't want to get hit by it
@DieselDog1929
@DieselDog1929 Күн бұрын
You guys are the GOAT! Been here from the very beginning. Keep pumping out content!
@paulbottner6452
@paulbottner6452 22 сағат бұрын
I was very glad that you mentioned the part about what your walls are made of it sure does make a big difference when it comes to choosing the shot for your shotgun for home protection.
@JoeJank1
@JoeJank1 Күн бұрын
Inside 10 yards you could be shooting gummy bears out of a shotgun and it'd still be effective.
@josephcuevas8100
@josephcuevas8100 Күн бұрын
The late Jeff Quinn also advocated birdshot for across the room distances. He also said if the bad guy survives he can learn to read braille in jail.
@basshnter1997
@basshnter1997 Күн бұрын
That video convinced me, birdshot.
@garywood2137
@garywood2137 Күн бұрын
I gotta believe that 1 1/4-ounce number 4 anywhere in the vicinity of the chin area at standard home hallway distance is going to take away an opponents will to continue fighting.
@gen2-x364
@gen2-x364 Күн бұрын
How about #4 bucksot…… That’s what I’m running.
@hickok45
@hickok45 Күн бұрын
That's one of MY preferences.
@hansgrueber8169
@hansgrueber8169 Күн бұрын
Same here, i also have some old but well kept 3" lead BB 2 ouncers running in some things. I believe they were goose loads from the days of Yor.
@randylangton1932
@randylangton1932 Күн бұрын
I like 00 buckshot 9 pellet shells better. I'd prefer them over a 9mm handgun. I read that one 00 buckshot 9 pellet is like shooting nine 9mm bullets at the same time
@sergeantmajorgross4461
@sergeantmajorgross4461 Күн бұрын
I have 000 buck 2 3/4 shells
@aa-yt7wo
@aa-yt7wo Күн бұрын
12 pellet #00
@michelpaquette2722
@michelpaquette2722 Күн бұрын
I still listen your nice video from Berthierville Canada thank you hickok 45❤
@clutchcargo1239
@clutchcargo1239 Күн бұрын
With a full choke, birdshot is deadly at indoor close range and will not over penetrate your walls. #4 buckshot is a step up to increase a longer effective indoor range and generally doesn't over penetrate. If I lived in an apartment complex, I'd be very aware of my background surroundings and probably use 6 or 7 Birdshot for the safety of others. In a house, it depends on your surroundings. I like 2 3/4 12ga #4 buck with an IM choke for inside the home defense.
@user-pr3ho5pz4m
@user-pr3ho5pz4m Күн бұрын
Larger bird shot at 20' does not spread all that much. How long a shot are you going inside your home? I guarantee it will do the job. The main advantage is you don't have to worry so much about over penetration.
@maximilianmustermann5763
@maximilianmustermann5763 Күн бұрын
If you're worried about too much spread, put a choke on the shotgun depending on what distances you're going to need it for. That's what chokes are for.
@Chase_01
@Chase_01 Күн бұрын
Cut shells work well
@everettrhay4855
@everettrhay4855 Күн бұрын
When concerning shotguns, I always defer to anything Clint Smith has said on the subject.
@puggins1
@puggins1 Күн бұрын
just had a mild argument on another video with a guy scoffing at birdshot basically calling it less lethal. #6 birdshot @ 10ft or less is utterly devastating.
@delles1548
@delles1548 Күн бұрын
Exactly! Read my post below.
@aDumtreeF85
@aDumtreeF85 Күн бұрын
RIP Paul Harrell. You proved to us that there is more then one kinda of birdshot. And it can be affective.
@2greeksandacamera
@2greeksandacamera Күн бұрын
One thing’s for sure with birdshot: The collateral damage out beyond the maximum distance is going to probably becmuch less. Ya never know though, we are responsible for every pellet or bullet. Birdshot is far less likely to inflict fatalities at 70-80 yards than a #4 shot pellet. My little daughter got hit by a single pellet in the temple as we just arrived home from a long trip, and the door to our station wagon was opened on her side of the car. It was a birdshot but I forget what size but the distance was 30 yards, fired by a neighbor who was shooting at a charging enraged big German shepherd. His shot killed the dog but that stray pellet almost killed my daughter. You can’t imagine my feelings as we picked her up crying and bleeding at the temple and rushing her to ER 5 miles away. Fortunately the pellet stopped by the skull bone, thin as it was at that spot. She told me when I picked her up right after it happened, even though she was crying, “Daddy an angel just saved me!” Next day a policeman came to see us and tried his best to get me to swear out charges against the neighbor from up the street, who came to the rescue of our immediate next door neighbor who’s German shepherd was going berserk after killing another neighbor’s lapdog that had wandered into their yard. I told this not informed closed-minded but otherwise good cop that no way was I filing charges against this good man who tried to stop an enraged monster dog. That cop didn’t like it that I refused to go along with him because he obviously wanted to arrest and cuff the man. I said NO. OUR DAUGHTER IS SAVED BY GOD AND HE DID NOT SHOOT AT MY DAUGHTER, HE WAS SHOOTING IN SELF DEFENSE AT A CHARGING ENRAGED DOG AT POINT BLANK RANGE.
@AP-zw6ql
@AP-zw6ql Күн бұрын
You mentioned something so many people ignore. Just because something doesn't have a lot of "stopping power" does not mean it won't make someone stop what they are doing and run. A face or chest full of #7 shot is going to take the fight out of anyone and make them reevaluate whatever they were doing that got them shot.
@MilkManic
@MilkManic Күн бұрын
Exactly, and if an aggressor can take a face full of birdshot and still keep coming? Maybe he does need my stuff more then i do lol
@lordsteppergod7269
@lordsteppergod7269 Күн бұрын
"Birdshot,buckshot,birdshot then buckshot buckshot buckshot."- Dave Chapelle
@Mike-rx3mn
@Mike-rx3mn Күн бұрын
My Grandpa always kept his pump loaded with birdshot or rock salt and bacon rind for the first round and then double-ought for the rest, he always said they get 1 warning, he never had any problems at the farm growing up. Good video, I pity the fool trying to sneak onto your land with malice in his heart, hickok45.
@SlickCat
@SlickCat Күн бұрын
😂 My grandpa was the same. Back then shot shells were wax coated cardboard. He would unfold the crimp, empty out the lead shot and fill with rock salt. Damn sure no one wanted to get hit with that 😢
@KevinoftheCosmos
@KevinoftheCosmos Күн бұрын
that's what I do
@larrymills8527
@larrymills8527 Күн бұрын
@@SlickCat Back when i was a kid a guy down the road used that for kids taking water melons from the farm . .
@lestercoons3962
@lestercoons3962 Күн бұрын
@@larrymills8527 my butt got peppered with rock salt one time! Never again! You can't pick that stuff out, it burns like fire for a very long time!
@Dauthdart.2
@Dauthdart.2 Күн бұрын
I get the salt, but what was the function of the bacon rind?
@CmdrDingus
@CmdrDingus Күн бұрын
>Birdshot ❌ >Custom shell packed with screws and other random trash I found ✅✅✅
@cuznclive2236
@cuznclive2236 Күн бұрын
You need a Junk Jet from the game Fallout...
@chairmanbrando
@chairmanbrando Күн бұрын
Or as Dave Chappelle loads his 12 gauge: birdshot, buckshot, birdshot, buckshot, buckshot, buckshot.
@platebniterminal
@platebniterminal Күн бұрын
Birdshot is definetily better than nothing, wouldn't really want to meet neither head on. But when it comes down getting any gun out it's holster, you've already made the decision that the guy or gal you're defending yourself against is not walking away alive from the fight. I've had a police officer tell our group during shooting practice that when you're defending yourself, your firearm should of course be the last thing you use. But when you do, you always want to go for the kill, because god forbid the person you're defending yourself against survives with some sort injury / paralysis, takes you to court and YOU end up having to pay HIM for the rest of his life for the disability you've caused him. It's harsh, but it's the truth, which is why I'd take buckshot for defense any day, every day.
@poireauer6517
@poireauer6517 Күн бұрын
👍👍💪💪
@jaec45
@jaec45 Күн бұрын
An uncle of mine from the Philippines who owns a huge fish farm prefers using Bird Shots to Buck Shots on his shotgun. In the Philippines, they call a shotgun a "Ripleng De Sabog" (Scatter Rifle). He uses his firearm to deter thieves who would steal fish from his farm. He says he likes it since it is not really "lethal" and he doesn't want to murder anyone, just to scare them off. However, if he ever has to shoot anybody with it, his victim will give the Surgeons in the Hospital a hard time removing those tiny lead pellets all over his body, undoubtedly leaving a few inside, and reminding him of his villainous behavior all the time for the rest of his life. LOL!
@Zdx8
@Zdx8 Күн бұрын
Great demonstrations video hickok!
@therealdiehl4671
@therealdiehl4671 23 сағат бұрын
My brother did patterning and penetration on ply wood at 70 yards on 3/8 ply wood with his 10 ga. when working up loads for geese. You'd might be surprised how many pellets went through the plywood. I know that was a 10ga, but remember it 70 yrds.
@ciphercode2298
@ciphercode2298 Күн бұрын
My neighbor growing up was a huge gun aficionado and slept with a sawn off 12ga double barrel greener loaded on both sides with 00 buck under his pillow.
@cyrusdarko9870
@cyrusdarko9870 Күн бұрын
here to push the channel! 💪🏻
@papamarty6480
@papamarty6480 Күн бұрын
He’ll yes close range or even moderate range birdshot preferably duck loads #6 high brass inside a home will hit like a slug from inside to backyard fence may allow it spread even to remove an attackers stomach from ever being useful in processing the targets meals that’s only if they survive the initial shot full of # 6 duck or Turkey load. The spread insures a hit whereas shooting with a slug or even 00 might miss entirely at close range if off by an inch or so will the slug or Double Aught
@Marcus-rg7bg
@Marcus-rg7bg Күн бұрын
We had a big debate about this at my local pawnshop. Everyone tended to agree on bird shot because of dry wall penetration. I'm sticking with buck. I live in old house. No drywall. Stiff wood and bricks. Be aware of who's in rooms and stuff. Main thing hit your target. We overthink things.
@Valorius
@Valorius Күн бұрын
Garand thumb did a video on this with ballistic torsos, even at 30 yds facial shots caused complete and total blindness ( in other words the eye sockets were completely destroyed) and destroyed the nasal passages. Yes birdshot is absolutely positively effective effective for home defense
@hondolane3125
@hondolane3125 Күн бұрын
As someone who prefers 00, 9 pellet, it's worth noting not all birdshot is created equal. Everyone seems to demonstrate with #7 1/2 or #8 shot. It's a little hard to find factory shells due to water foul hunting requiring steel, but I have a supply of #2 lead shot I used to load for 2 and 3 gun competition, and shooting bowling pins. Big difference, without going all the way to buckshot sizes. Choices are good. 12 gage offers lots of choices. Life is good.
@warrenglen7636
@warrenglen7636 Күн бұрын
I agree. Anything larger then #4 lead or #2 steel should do everything you need to in a close range situation and not have a lot of excess penetration. Probably the best weapon for thin walled construction in apartments.
@maximilianmustermann5763
@maximilianmustermann5763 Күн бұрын
There's also a big difference with shot weight and powder loads. There are devastating #5 high velocity hunting loads with 34 or 36 grams of shot. They are very different from bog standard 28 grams #7.5
@dancook8583
@dancook8583 Күн бұрын
The old Remington lead "Nitro Mag" #2 shot 2 3/4" mags were awesome for ducks. I always thought they would make an excellent self defense round. Fast and hard hitting . Buffered shot for a nice round pattern
@williameberhart3505
@williameberhart3505 Күн бұрын
Excellent demonstration.
@sgtmajtrapp3391
@sgtmajtrapp3391 Күн бұрын
37 years of law enforcement for me means 00 buckshot in my defense shotguns but in the Remington TAC 14 shorty No4 Buck little less recoil. Want to stop a fight right now 00 buck does just that from my experiences.
@j.robertsergertson4513
@j.robertsergertson4513 Күн бұрын
And you have the Cop card liability coverage ,when it over penetrates and kills the neighbors ,we peasant don't have that ! We go to jail for manslaughter.
@2greeksandacamera
@2greeksandacamera Күн бұрын
Thanks Hickock we now know how you fund your project: Your scrap metal business has lots of lead mixed in with the tin and steel.
@JohnSmith-f6o
@JohnSmith-f6o Күн бұрын
Inside the normal size house birdshot will work just fine. Shots will rarely ever be more than 10 yards and likely half that. Once you step outside and range increases you need something a bit larger. This is why I load my defensive shotgun with #4 Buckshot as a compromise.
@pimpovic2
@pimpovic2 2 сағат бұрын
Thanks Hickok, after seeing this I just NEEDED to order some #4 buckshot 😅
@USAUSAM82
@USAUSAM82 Күн бұрын
Yep, the first two rounds in my Beretta 1301 are Winchester defender #2 copper plated BB shot. Then OO buck, then slug! Fisrst 2 shots wont over penetrate but make em reconsider. If they choose poorly, I'll have a lot of mopping to do.
@MsBleau
@MsBleau Күн бұрын
The racking should make them reconsider. Unless they're high.
@USAUSAM82
@USAUSAM82 Күн бұрын
@@MsBleau No racking with the 1301...but i do have a Winchester 1300 defender as backup!
@ChrisWilliams-vm1do
@ChrisWilliams-vm1do Күн бұрын
Nice shotgun. I like the Fed 00 Flight Control.
@brianmanners8910
@brianmanners8910 Күн бұрын
Birdshot cut shells can be quite effective inside 15/20 yrds .😎👍
@robertnelson1098
@robertnelson1098 Күн бұрын
Thanks for the video and chat 😊😊😊
@FreshTillDeath56
@FreshTillDeath56 Күн бұрын
Love ya, hickok! Happy Halloween!!!
@aabb76239
@aabb76239 Күн бұрын
Any sized shot out of a shotgun is absolutely lethal at close range. As distances increase heavier/larger shot remains lethal at greater distances. Plan accordingly, but use what you have. Simple. MACV SOG soldier said defending his choice of #4 Buck "Never got any complaint from anyone I ever shot"
@cuznclive2236
@cuznclive2236 Күн бұрын
Thank you.
@seanomeirs8362
@seanomeirs8362 Күн бұрын
What size of bird shot? I don't imagine anyone but a highly motivated and determined attacker is going to ignore a face full of #2 or BB in the face within 25 yards.
@j.robertsergertson4513
@j.robertsergertson4513 Күн бұрын
25yrds?? Is your house a mansion? At inside the house range 5-7 yrds they won't have a face .
@seanomeirs8362
@seanomeirs8362 Күн бұрын
@j.robertsergertson4513 The longest shot I would have inside my house is 18 yards. I would like to see a demonstration with some larger bird shot.
@MonicaHolly143
@MonicaHolly143 Күн бұрын
​@@seanomeirs8362longest shot in ur house doesnt mean the longest distance ur house have, during an invasion u wont stand in the middle of open space in side ur house u will stand besides a cover not an open space in ur kitchen targetting the suspect at the living room
@squidboi8674
@squidboi8674 Күн бұрын
@@MonicaHolly143chill bruh, it’s a hickock video
@Freedom-Fries
@Freedom-Fries Күн бұрын
Within 15 yards, birdshot is brutal. If your "home defense" means 40yd shots, then wowza, you rich! If so, then AR all the way. Or 9mm or 45 carbines are good for that stuff for
@MichaelJensen-i3o
@MichaelJensen-i3o Күн бұрын
Shotgun videos are the best kind of videos
@DMWatson-qc6mz
@DMWatson-qc6mz Күн бұрын
....there is a reference in one of Peter Capstick's books about African hunting...where he tells of being surprised by a lioness while out bird hunting. He didn't have time to switch guns...and so the only thing between her and him was a load of #71/2 shot at "tag you're it" distance. He whacked her smack in the nose as she came for him...(Which probably is the distance across most rooms in anything but the largest house)...and he said her head looked like someone stuck a hand grenade in a strawberry jam jar.
@bigslinking
@bigslinking Күн бұрын
Awesome shotgun you have. Beretta makes the best (in my opinion) semiautomatic hunting/sporting shotguns that are traditional non magazine feed systems. Beretta shotguns👍! Thanks for the video.
@KGiustOD
@KGiustOD Күн бұрын
Remember to get out and vote! It’s going to be closer than you think.
@pimpovic2
@pimpovic2 49 минут бұрын
Because of dishonest voting practices just like we saw in 2020. They'll ship in truck loads of ballots overnight just like before, or worse they've already rigged the machines. The news out of Pennsylvania this week should be a wake up call to everyone.
@timsmith9645
@timsmith9645 13 сағат бұрын
Great video nice shotgun thanks for sharing hickok45
@AllAboutSurvival
@AllAboutSurvival Күн бұрын
Birdshot might deter, but for reliably stopping a threat, buckshot tends to be more effective.
@TomKirkemo-l5c
@TomKirkemo-l5c Күн бұрын
I had a friend that compared a 16G to a "soft air gun". In that case you should never handle any firearm. :)
@alphacharlietango969
@alphacharlietango969 Күн бұрын
Thanks Hickok45, i learnt a lot
@wallabam
@wallabam 22 сағат бұрын
cannot think of a better man to review any gun ever
@HITME-LifeWithBaileyBrooks
@HITME-LifeWithBaileyBrooks 8 сағат бұрын
🎉
@allanhitchmoth3099
@allanhitchmoth3099 Күн бұрын
When I had the kids living with me (they're all grown up now) I used bird-shot in the shotgun. A lot of the misunderstanding comes from a video that was circulating on the internet a few years ago, pertaining to a school shooting and a girl getting shot "up close" with bird-shot. That one video is what makes people think there's no damage up close with bird shot. Yet, there's also no sign of recoil on the shooter... I can only assume it was a squib. At distances inside a home, birdshot IS effective! I'm not going to say that it's "ideal," but it's still damned deadly! A shotgun is one of, if not arguably the MOST versatile of firearms! They key though, is understanding the appropriate combinations of distance, load, choke and intended target. When I'm being told what I fool I am to think bird-shot could be effective for home defense, I usually keep my mouth shut and let the "expert" ramble on... then, I mentally call-up my decades of first-hand experience with bird-shot, skeet loads, buck shot, rifled and un-rifled slugs, chokes and barrels, geese, turkey, grouse, squirrels, deer, trap, skeet, and even a little 3-gun.... and I just grin...
@maximilianmustermann5763
@maximilianmustermann5763 Күн бұрын
What does bird shot even mean when people say it? Is it 28 grams of #8 or is it 36 grams of #5 with a high velocity powder load? There's a huge difference.
@studio28music97
@studio28music97 23 сағат бұрын
I have been shot with #8 at 60 yards. I'm glad I wasn't any closer and that there was foliage between my position and the shooter. At 20 yards or less, I don't think I would be here.
@allanhitchmoth3099
@allanhitchmoth3099 22 сағат бұрын
@@maximilianmustermann5763 That's part of the point. To universally dismiss "bird shot" as a viable defense load is simply a regurgitation of some keyboard expert. It's like finding the "perfect" defense gun (for all defense environments). No such thing.
@samleverett58
@samleverett58 Күн бұрын
I prefer 00 Buck.
@maximilianmustermann5763
@maximilianmustermann5763 Күн бұрын
There's so many types of birdshot. It's not only about the shot size, but also shot weight and powder load. I have some Rottweil high velocity crow loads that are 34 grams of #5 bird shot and they kick like a mule. They almost got me kicked off an indoor range once because they sparked so much on steel plates at 15 yards that they wouldn't believe me it was lead shot until they put a magnet to the rounds.
@johndaugherty4127
@johndaugherty4127 Күн бұрын
Yes! If it comes out of a shotgun its good for home defense!
@deathfromabovegaming5420
@deathfromabovegaming5420 Күн бұрын
I swear these videos never get old, every video is awesome
@scottdavis2711
@scottdavis2711 Күн бұрын
No one has talked about 3 1/2 inch turkey magnum # 4’s at defense ranges! Brutal.
@macmacox
@macmacox Күн бұрын
I was just about to say this.
@crjlife_9082
@crjlife_9082 Күн бұрын
Hell yea this is what I run
@scottdavis2711
@scottdavis2711 Күн бұрын
@@macmacox they are devastating at close range!
@scottdavis2711
@scottdavis2711 Күн бұрын
@@crjlife_9082 they do crazy damage at defense range.
@usnchief1339
@usnchief1339 Күн бұрын
That's what I have available.
@TomKappeln
@TomKappeln Күн бұрын
"Great gun for de fence" gets me every time😂 Maybe i'm a simple man ... 😂
@havokvladimirovichstalinov
@havokvladimirovichstalinov Күн бұрын
In a standard home, probably not, but in a studio apartment where one has a clear line of fire in most directions, birdshot will punch an intruder without nailing anything in the apartment on the other side of the wall. That being said, I prefer buckshot, but at a range of 25' or less, any shot type might as well be a fist for the average person kicking in my front door
@grimflipz
@grimflipz Күн бұрын
Someone I knew years back got shot accidentally !! point blank with a 20 inch barrel 12 gauge birdshot in the stomach and it blew a big hole but did not go very deep . He was a chubby guy but not real fat. He passed out from the shot seconds later and was hospitalized with what the doctor said was 5% chance of survival. He survived ! Had it been buckshot or heaven forbid a slug , he definitely would have not made it.
@j.robertsergertson4513
@j.robertsergertson4513 Күн бұрын
Bet he shits in a bag now ,huh
@faroutgolf3650
@faroutgolf3650 Күн бұрын
I was in Utah back in 73'. One feller jumped out of the truck with a 12 gauge bird shot and blew his leg off damn near the doctors had to amputate from the knee down. Don't underestimate 7 1/2 bird shot close up..
@Tony-ij9zx
@Tony-ij9zx Күн бұрын
Somebody should send this vid to Tim Waltz . Could help him on how to load his auto loader…
@TheRustedShackleford
@TheRustedShackleford Күн бұрын
He was correctly safety checking the gun. Seems like you need some assistance in learning proper firearm handling.
@j.robertsergertson4513
@j.robertsergertson4513 Күн бұрын
You can't fix stupid
@KyleRS877
@KyleRS877 Күн бұрын
If he was checking it, it was for tampons
@TheRustedShackleford
@TheRustedShackleford Күн бұрын
@KyleRS877 there a reason so many of you seem to talk like low-class, trailer trash?
@barryhall7983
@barryhall7983 Күн бұрын
The ole Ky hillbillies still love ya content! Appreciate the shout out! SMH. LOL
@piotrpiotr138
@piotrpiotr138 Күн бұрын
Pozdrowienia z Polski uwielbiam pana dużo zdrowia
@bubbaredneck75
@bubbaredneck75 Күн бұрын
with halloween tomo u should do a show something like pumpkin-o-matic if u could get a bunch on clearance from a local store or farmer friend
@danzepping374
@danzepping374 21 сағат бұрын
This man should narate kid books. His voice is so great and fatherly.
@kkepdawg1
@kkepdawg1 3 сағат бұрын
He is a retired teacher. Would have loved to be in his classroom. Would have hated being in trouble in it though...
@jontalbert5448
@jontalbert5448 Күн бұрын
remember buffered loads WILL leak in your mag tube in time. up close you don't need to be accuurate. i load RIO ammo for home defense.
@DavidBenner-cy4zl
@DavidBenner-cy4zl Күн бұрын
I load two bird shot folled by the third shot as 00 Buck. I know what the various shot does, being an advanced trauma paramedic trained as a SWAT medic. I used to hunt with a 20 gauge double barrel for small game. Nothing got away. And everything was cleaned, cooked, and eaten.
@roostershooter76
@roostershooter76 Күн бұрын
You should try and review the Beretta 1301 Mod 2. I saw you were using the "Mod 1", but the Mod 2 has a lot of upgrades that are worth the extra money and a look!
@maxpinson5002
@maxpinson5002 18 сағат бұрын
I was sure that I saw a hostile 2 liter cold drink bottle waiting for an opportunity to do mischief. Always important to call for backup when violent sweetened carbonated drinks are possibly in the area
@mh4392
@mh4392 Күн бұрын
In Sweden we hunt deer, fox and lynx with birdshot. #1 birdshot is the biggest shotsize legal for hunting, #3 is recommended. Normal shooting distances is around 20 meters. It works very well. The shot is usually under the skin of the opposing side, death is quick.
@GUNNER67akaKelt
@GUNNER67akaKelt Күн бұрын
If you're going to need to use it at medium to long range, stick with buckshot. In most homes, unless you live in an airplane hanger, heavier birdshot will DO THE JOB. Once put a fist sized hole in an old refridgerator with #7 1/2 bird shot. I don't want to get hit with it. Add to that, if you have close neighbors, it'll save you a some worries about liability.
@dwightehowell8179
@dwightehowell8179 Күн бұрын
The NRA did an article long ago in which they suggested using bird shot if you were concerned with shooting through a wall and doing damage to something best not hurt. Hard rubber or plastic slugs might be an option though rock salt in big particles and pig skin was sometimes used on thieves in the first half of the 20th century. Those were all called less than lethal loads but they were going to leave a mark.
@ethanlareau3970
@ethanlareau3970 16 сағат бұрын
I live in a condo building with neighbors on three sides. My question has always been whether I should use my 9mm pistol for home defense or my shotgun with birdshot. I don’t know much about the walls, so I’m assuming they’re average. Buckshot would go through the wall, but so would a 9mm bullet. So, in my circumstances, I’m feeling stuck with birdshot. I suppose the time of year would make a difference - heavy coast versus shirt sleeves. Personally, if I broke into a house and heard a giant BOOM and was plastered with birdshot, I’d leave. Especially when I heard the shotgun being racked again. That’s not stopping power, but it’s a serious deterrent. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
@kmanbay6580
@kmanbay6580 Күн бұрын
We hear about how poorly birdshot would do on an intruder. The problem is every single test I have seen done has been with loads for small birds. Such as #9, #7, #6 etcetera. I have never seen testing done with goose loads with larger pellet sizes. The two buckshot loads we always hear about are 00 and #4 buck, but size F birdshot is almost the same size as the #4 buck. The F shot is .22 cal and the #4 is .24 cal. I would be great to see how some of the larger bird shot works on gelatin blocks, and on walls. Maybe there is a size of goose loads that would be better for apartments or densely populated city homes
@francescocasillas4965
@francescocasillas4965 Күн бұрын
Birdshot slug birdshot slug
@USAUSAM82
@USAUSAM82 Күн бұрын
You mean cut shells?
@francescocasillas4965
@francescocasillas4965 Күн бұрын
@ cut shells get jammed when youre feeding em thats why you dont load them into the tube
@tacklecentralfishing1051
@tacklecentralfishing1051 Күн бұрын
Slug buck slug
@michaeltaylor4984
@michaeltaylor4984 Күн бұрын
A little wax works
@francescocasillas4965
@francescocasillas4965 Күн бұрын
@@michaeltaylor4984 still not a good idea to load cut shells into a tube, not to mention the lower half of em tend to get stuck when you try to eject
@harleyvulcancobra4.619
@harleyvulcancobra4.619 Күн бұрын
Remington 12 gauge nitro magnum #2,4,6 shot is some powerful stuff but I prefer 3 inch 00 buck myself!😎
@MaverickChief
@MaverickChief 14 сағат бұрын
Impressive 7 1/2 loads I like the #4 birdshot and #4 buckshot
@JM-nh8ld
@JM-nh8ld Күн бұрын
Run Kent faststeel BB but also bought some migra BB/2 shot. I need to see how that will pattern.
@bobwalton4879
@bobwalton4879 Күн бұрын
Is the wad more deadly than the birdshot?
@maximilianmustermann5763
@maximilianmustermann5763 Күн бұрын
For paper, yes it is!
@studio28music97
@studio28music97 23 сағат бұрын
I've had the dubious distinction of being shot with 12 ga. #8 bird shot from a distance of about 60 yards. Was working at a sporting clays facility. First day on the job and followed a co-worker into a field to work on a machine. Had no idea that he had not shut down the station next to us. We both got peppered. He was larger than I am, and mostly between the shooter and me. That was not a good day. At all. I know what close range birdshot can do to wood, metal signs, and animals. It will be a huge mistake to underestimate the potential for destruction it can cause within the length of a typical room.
@HITME-LifeWithBaileyBrooks
@HITME-LifeWithBaileyBrooks 8 сағат бұрын
🎉
@CyborgZeta
@CyborgZeta Күн бұрын
Paul Harrell did several videos on the viability of birdshot for home defense. Personally, I prefer using #4 Buckshot, but I would have no qualms using birdshot.
@JohnnyKaw11B
@JohnnyKaw11B Күн бұрын
For those of you that don’t know, the loads he was using are not powerful even for birdshot standards. Load up some six shot high brass, and you’re doing a lot more damage. Either way, at room length ranges, against a home invasion, what he’s using will end the fight.
@janicefletcher3588
@janicefletcher3588 23 сағат бұрын
Awesome
@HITME-LifeWithBaileyBrooks
@HITME-LifeWithBaileyBrooks 8 сағат бұрын
🎉
@jiggz2111
@jiggz2111 2 сағат бұрын
can you do a video on the AMT automag III ?
@bobodean1
@bobodean1 Күн бұрын
The first 2 in my shotgun are bird shot. The rest are #4. My sling holds 25, with 20 being #4s and 5 being slugs.
@GShileikis
@GShileikis Күн бұрын
I keep my 12ga loaded with #4 shot as the longest shot inside my home would be @ 20-23 ft. #4 Shot is less likely to exit the house via exterior walls and maybe one wall inside which I know exactly what's there, no one. I might consider #8 Birdshot but nothing smaller in size.
@gingersteelman8126
@gingersteelman8126 Күн бұрын
2 #7’s followed by 3 #4’s here. I’m not trying to remodel the whole damn house. But I will😅.
@Squizzle56
@Squizzle56 Күн бұрын
Looks like “Birds hot” at 6:00!!!😂
@vityazsix
@vityazsix Күн бұрын
i saw a video where a guy was being shot with bird shot. he charged the guy and took his gun after multiple shots
@pf6797
@pf6797 Күн бұрын
I think we need to be talking more about what type of shotgun shot is best for drone defense.
@woohanrebel2549
@woohanrebel2549 Күн бұрын
first have to clarify what drones. the ones that wear blue and eat donuts or the ones that you plug into the wall.
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