Birmingham roller pigeon training new and young birds

[@normpulliam]

Thanks a bunch for the video you made about your wood drop box you made. I have a few Birmingham rollers and they were very skittish about going in my trap, which I made using dowels. Today I made the wooden (like yours) and the birds go in with very little hesitation.

[@pauldersch556]

I 've been watch'en your videos for several years now. Keep up the great work..

[@LozHarrop]

Thanks and all the best

[@roystockley1372]

It’s great to see your birds looking so healthy and happy Cheers

[@barrymoore82]

Very nice bird's like how you've trained them where are you located .

[@floridahobbyfarm7728]

One of the best and most informative videos I have seen, Thanks

[@LozHarrop]

+Homesteading 32707 Thank you.

[@user-tx5lu1px2u]

+ppotty1 Zdreveite .. Molia vi iskam numer za telifona iskam da kupia gulabi ot vas

[@michaelmahony1563]

Thanks for sharing your birds and your very help full hints on homing the birds. best regards Michael Mahony. Australia;

[@LozHarrop]

Thanks Michael.

[@jenniferargenbright3354]

Candogwhistlesbeusedwith retraining?

[@chrisjames8758]

Thanks so much .. just starting out and a little overwhelmed by the amount off different breeds .. don’t really understand yet the difference between rollers and tumblers

[@LozHarrop]

Put simply Chris, rollers literally roll multiple times, but tumblers fly for long periods and often really high the odd one might do a single flick or roll but thats about it.

[@rickyhepburn8818]

excellent video !!! i enjoyed watching it and learned how to trap .... dude you the best roller videos on the net. i have learned so much from ur channel thankyou so mutch!!

[@LozHarrop]

ricky hepburn Cheers mate.

[@fasilbd8]

Hi mate. Are you selling your double kit boxes? Or do you know who is selling them? Thanks. Faz

[@edluciano504]

What size is the purchase inside the kickbox

[@adrianusp.m.heersche1909]

Nice video as always Loz. Saturday I will try to let out my first 4 rollers. Just watched your video for the last details. My boxes aren't still ready but I prepared a temporary box. It is a mix between box and flight case. The birds already drop in in a 4" hole in a flight case. Made it 4" regarding your 45 degrees tubes. Tomorrow I will make a little video of the trapping and I will send it to you. Thanks my friend for sharing all your experiences. By the way your birds are very clean. Got some problems with diarrhea a week ago. Now only one of them still has a little but the birds look awful. The strange thing that the got some medicine to avoid this. I changed the water, suspect it is from de chlorides in water from the tap. At the moment it is a lot better Lozz, a video about this kind of this things would be a big help for all the new people with rollers. Laurence as you know I have experience with pigeons but this are different. Normally a pigeon likes maize, this ones leave it. Even broken maize. At least my ones. OK my friend, we will be in touch.

[@LozHarrop]

Adrianus P.M. Heersche I think the birds Diarrhea problems are due to stress being in the open box but you can get that sorted out easily, cider vinegar at one tablespoon per litre of water is very good for their digestion too. I will try to get the next video up this week already injected my birds so will include that in the video. Cheers.

[@adrianusp.m.heersche1909]

Lozz, I solved the problemen with active carbon. The same that use people. It is marvellous!! Look forward to see your new video! Put already a board to give them more "privacy" ;) Regards, Jan

[@BlackWolf-di9gq]

Nice set up!

[@jackbennett3202]

Very interesting you have got some great birds i hope i can do as well

[@MikeynegRealtor]

love your setup & training method, only thing I'm no fan of is plucking wings. taping sounds less cruel

[@jhb042]

Very good video!

[@pigeonjoe8404]

the pipe is pure genius i love this idea

[@LozHarrop]

Cheers Joe. Not my idea but it is brilliant.

[@pigeonjoe8404]

that it is my lad i realy enjoy your videos keep them coming my friend im out from boston massachusetts cheers

[@vaporwaave]

Thanks for this very informative video. Hopefully will be making a kit box and buying some rollers for the first time.

[@LozHarrop]

No problem mate, good luck with the build and enjoy your birds when you get them.

[@craigspencer3805]

thanks for the video! this info is vital to new fanciers

[@LozHarrop]

Hope it helps Craig

[@Research0digo]

Hello, Thank you for sharing this wonderful information, Sir. @3:25, can you mix in some regular pigeons that do home with your rollers? I'm thinking that would work well - thoughts anyone? @5:17, if 'Painter's Tape' is sold in your area - or go to amazon.com (absolutely everything is available there!), it barely adheres, I think it would be marvelous. Wrapped around once, I think it would stick to itself well.

[@yonasbeza2762]

I love ur videos and they are very informative . Tnx!

[@LozHarrop]

+Yonas Beza Thank you, hopefully update the pigeons this next week.

[@brucemair3914]

great set up would love a kit like that well done

[@edluciano504]

How to build the purchase in the kickbox

[@aaronjordan8789]

Hi nice looking birds pal. I used to have some les bezance over 15 years ago. Are yours your own family or you creating your own family?

[@LozHarrop]

thanks yes I was staring to do that but kept loosing the best birds to hawks eventually I just gave up and stopped breeding and now keep them as cage birds

[@aaronjordan8789]

Yea I had the same problem with the peregrine it gutted me every time. Thing is I was given a young yellow spangle turned out a beauty and very clever. I'd know within a minute I was going to get hit cos she was on the pole no matter how high they were. Couldn't carry on

[@TimTools99]

I am watching your videos one after the other! Thanks for your willingness to share what you have learned. It's hard to find good experienced teachers like you. So ... after i get my kit box built, How many birds should i start off with? I sure would like to see if I can get a group flying like this. Thanks again.

[@lexbeltran1354]

TimTools99 Try to get a kit of at least 11-20 birds.😊

[@naiusany]

Hi Can u make a video of how you keep your coops clean with about 20 birds and it. It is amazing to see how clean they are. How often do you clean? And what chemicals if any do you use to clean them.

[@tfranksweeley]

I want to thank u for this video. I have trained my bird this way from day one. it works well. I have been flying for 1/2 a year. love it

[@LozHarrop]

2nd Chance Cheers mate.

[@abdulmojid9296]

If old birds fly away they could go back to the owner if it is more than a mile away because recently i just bought a some rollers and one went back to the owner 3 miles away.nice pigeons mate keep it up.😃

[@LozHarrop]

Abdul Mojid thankyou...Yes older birds do sometimes find their way back to the old loft, a friend of mine got some birds off a guy around 10 miles away, one of them went back twice when he let them out. Cheers.

[@abdulmojid9296]

But were they rollers 😃 ???

[@kennethstensrud669]

A really clever idea of using the pipe bends instead of a ordinary sputnik. Think I should try that on my new loft.....

[@LozHarrop]

Kenneth Stensrud Thanks Kenneth.

[@GrahamOrm]

Hiya Loz. I know nothing about pigeons, hope you can enlighten me. We get a lot of wood pigeons and one has a ring on it's leg. It hangs out with the others and isn't a racer as far as I can tell. We don't have flocks of racing pigeons circling at all. Will it be one that's got lost and found a new family?

[@LozHarrop]

Hi Graham, if its rung it most prob is a racer some do look just like wood pigeons, it maybe follows them because they know the local food sources

[@GrahamOrm]

@@LozHarrop Thanks Loz. Thought as much. Suppose someone somewhere is missing it.

[@allancarra5693]

you sure know your rollers mate. How would you go cutting the tips of their wings only the outer 5 flight feathers?

[@LozHarrop]

Allan Carra I wouldnt cut the flight feathers mate as taping them does the same job and you dont have to wait for the feathers to re grow when the bird is ready to fly.

[@allancarra5693]

***** i will try that mate. thanx

[@johncoelho5278]

what pigeon bands do you use can you use ipb bands for competition is their restrictions on what bands to use on competition day

[@LozHarrop]

+john coelho in the UK you need a club ring on to fly in comp or enter shows with the birds most clubs accept other clubs rings to fly in comp too.

[@paulshawp]

Hi that's great have you ever watched poroldchap he is very interesting always projects on ive just got involved with my sisters polly tunnel so I'm on with planting that up try any thing for a year or two

[@LozHarrop]

paulshawp Yes ive watched a few of his vids paul he gets up to allsorts, Id like a poly tunnel or greenhouse but I just haven't got the space and besides a greenhouse is a bad idea with roller pigeons ;-)

[@lexbeltran1354]

Can I just use a wire cage and set it up on top of my kit box? I don't have a wire cage set up like you have.

[@colinburton3528]

How long do leave the bands on the flights? Do you take them off each time they come in?

[@LozHarrop]

you can leave the bands on until the birds are ready to fly free just take one or two off at first and they all wont fly off at once the birds without bands can now fly but wont go too far hopefully and will come back to land with the other banded birds.

[@Ruckercouplings]

Love the 45* elbow to trap your birds, what size pipe do you use? It look like 3"

[@pexto8003]

Nice birds. Thanks for sharing

[@JonathanLee923]

Real nice kit boxs!

[@LozHarrop]

Jonathan Lee Thanks Jonathon.

[@reyeslemus9136]

If i have a roller cross it with a homer will the babys still roll?

[@LozHarrop]

Reyes Lemus No Reyes they will not roll at all.

[@reyeslemus9136]

Ok Thanks last thing do rollers roll when u first let go?

[@LozHarrop]

Reyes Lemus dont quite understand do you mean when they take their first fly ? to answer they can be anything from 4 -8 months before they roll just depends on the breed and the individual bird.

[@pitbike-vr9wg]

lovely birds mate

[@LozHarrop]

Thanks Mate.

[@paulshawp]

Hi there I've just watched you training vid don't now about pigeons but now more now any other projects on mate Paul pendle

[@LozHarrop]

paulshawp Hi Paul, loads going on at the moment mate but very busy with work which gets in the way, been making a few Viking style axes and other knives and messing around with refractory mixtures, just settled on one of them and will be doing a video on that soon. Cheers.

[@naiusany]

I am from NY I am new to pigeons. I rescued 2 pigeons a month a part and they r healthy now. My kids love the 2 pigeons. I am in process of making a coop as per ur layout. I am addicted to ur excellent videos. Love ur dedication and devotion to ur hobby I have few questions. 1. When u r cleaning the coop for young birds where do they stay. Can u please make a video of how u clean the coop.

[@lexbeltran1354]

naiusany You can keep the two birds in a cage while cleaning the loft.😊

[@naiusany]

THANKS

[@olimpio76]

Nice pigeons, do you have plans for that box?

[@RoblesBackSpinLoft]

Came back to your videos....hehehe. Hope you have been able to fly your birds without too many issues with the BOP's. Happy flying my friend keep those birds spinning..... :)

[@peewpeew5497]

Do you put both male and female in that group or you separate them? dont have a pigeons, just trying to learn and hopefully get some pigeon someday....

[@LozHarrop]

you can put all the birds together males and females, I keep my young birds together for the first year mostly.

[@florentinbaciu922]

Hi ppotty good afternoon I want sack you for some help. I have some Rumanian galati roller very similar to Birmingham roller . What do you think if I separate the male and the female at this time of the ear , the reason I am asking is that I have to many and because in the past I did not have space ? They have been breeding for a year and 3 month continually I know is not good but I whant to rectified now what do you think? Thank you

[@LozHarrop]

Florentin Baciu Yes seperate them for as long as you want. it is good to give them a rest from breeding which takes alot out of the birds. cheers.

[@QBDad18]

nice set up, I need to do some similar videos of my kits too, thanks for sharing

[@QBDad18]

Dave Hendersonby the way what is your name? do you fly in competitions?

[@LozHarrop]

Dave Henderson thanks ...Be nice to see them Dave.

[@LozHarrop]

Dave Henderson I dont fly in comp I just dont have the time and not many roller men locally.

[@1apples145]

World of pigeons, not sure if I could have pigeons, I have two cats but the main problem are all the Hawks that fly around nearby. Great vid!

[@LozHarrop]

Thanks mate, yes the hawks are a massive problem

[@ericsalcido9870]

Hey did you figure out anything about those eggs

[@naiusany]

Hi What time of the day do u recommend putting them in the trap when birds r in the trap how do u get them back in the box.

[@LozHarrop]

Put them in anytime really, i leave the door open for them to go in and out, they will go back in the box when it comes to feeding time.

[@naiusany]

Thanks

[@dannycarter4791]

Hi Do you tape both wings up or just one to stop them flying off ?

[@LozHarrop]

Hi Danny yes its best to do that, a strong bird can get in the air otherwise.

[@J9rdy]

Hello Where can i buy these cage. Like them.

[@dannycarter4791]

How is that bent pipe held in place

[@LozHarrop]

Its held on with some silicone, the ones on the wire fronts are just wedged in tight on the wires.

[@karneilemalisrealattackdog5437]

Nice birds can u do a video of some kitting and performing

[@aleckarcz1422]

what's the diameter of the pipe?

[@LozHarrop]

4 inches

[@playpigeonsespana6879]

Hi potty, I am Jan from Spain. I am just back from Holland. Got with me some top birds. Please could you send me the link of one of your videos vacunating the pigeons. I would be pleased to check some things in your MASTER CLASSES. In advance thanks a lot mate. Kind regards Jan.

[@shashankgoel6377]

Beautiful pigeons

[@westwinds7129]

How much would you sell a nice pair of bald heads for with no bull eyes ?....

[@andrewtomlinson1434]

thanks mate ill do that . ps i like ur trapping system 2 its brill might try that myslf .

[@LozHarrop]

cheers.

[@nnonix]

Good stuff. Thanks for sharing.

[@LozHarrop]

Brad Johnson ***** ***** MRnounoursSQ Thanks for the comments guys.

[@maggiemcbroom1002]

I fell in love with a family of pigeons and them just learning for a couple months they keep having babies but this baby Lefton nest last night and can't fly yet in the mom and dad left and it's sleeping on the cement by my door I don't know what to do can you advise? I made a box for it and put it in there but it left right away and appears very scared. And also it will not eat on its own it once its mother too feed it still I'm expecting the mother to come back in the morning and feed it I hope

[@MyGolden30]

BEAUTIFUL Birds!!! and your Traps/Cages are very nice! I have always loved Pigeons, but they multiply soooo fast! LOL We used to catch them at the local high school and then pen them for up to 3 months before we let them out, but living in the Piney Woods of Texas ... Raptors were quick about getting them. I had a pair of Rollers, but I find out that they were both hens b/c none of the eggs were fertile. Anyway, THANK YOU so much for your videos! I just came across your channel and subscribed!

[@LozHarrop]

Thanks, yes the raptors are the worst part of keeping flying birds

[@Eliteracingloft]

❤❤❤ i am planning for this one.. some how my pigeons are fearing to land but on the sky 😢

[@gnads1]

Very interesting that the homing instinct of rollers is fairly ordinary. That certainly is a drawback.

[@edluciano504]

The tra p 45° excellent I got that on Michael

[@naanideepak]

Can in have pair of these pegions. Price

[@adrianforrester325]

Very informative video well done cheers

[@LozHarrop]

adrian forrester cheers adrian

[@pexto8003]

Thanks for the video

[@alexdobson6059]

I keep fantails but I would like to keep rollers thanks for the video

[@andrewtomlinson1434]

hoa mate good vids i hope 2 get a couple pigepns 4 pets how do i no whitch 1s 2 get i do want them 2 fly this will be the first 4 me ive seen most of your vids learned alot from u want 2 try it myself

[@LozHarrop]

I would get to know some local pigeon flyers and ask them if they know anyone with rollers, meet them and watch their birds fly if possible before you buy. Or look for clubs and ask if anyone has any for sale.

[@MRnounoursSQ]

man nice setup

[@stevie12]

BRILLIANT VID ALLREADY STOLE FEW YOUR TIPS BEEN WAITING FOR YOUR NEXT VID HEALTH FEEDING E,T,C YOUR BIRDS LOOK MINT CONDITION THANKS FOR SHARING MY BIRDS ARE COMING ALONG NICELY A,T,B STEVIE

[@LozHarrop]

stevie 1 thanks stevie glad the birds are doing well mate.

[@JaysLoft]

Very good vid mate

[@LozHarrop]

Jason Bentley cheers Mate.

[@aurelienani204]

one of our pigeons got attacked the other day by a sparrowhawk, we lost the birdy, so unhappy, going to not leave them out so late at night anymore for a while we have no idea how to protect our birds from the hawks, second attack in a year

[@LozHarrop]

Aurelie Nani Im afraid the only way to keep them safe is keeping them in....There are a pair of Peregrines with their young hunting here at the moment...not good!

[@muhammadzackariyah6838]

U got nice clean birds u should do a lot more vids

[@LozHarrop]

Muhammad Zackariyah thanks mate will keep doing them from time to time,

[@topdog1977ful]

Hi do u have any rollers for sale many thanks craig

[@LozHarrop]

Craig Denley Hi Craig, I want to reduce the size of my flying kits so I do have some birds spare, where abouts in the UK are you. Cheers.

[@Ahmedvolks]

Lovly

[@Dannyracingpigeons]

I like the pipes going train my tipplers to trap with them

[@LozHarrop]

they work good Danny

[@علاءابوزينب-ق7ع]

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[@СергейОмельченко-в4с]

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[@MohamedAli-ex6py]

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[@samcramp8241]

Hi my name is Sean I live in Ireland Dublin. And I like the stile of your birds if you are willing to sell a kit I would be interested in by in them of you. I am on Facebook Shaun Richardson if you can send me a request thanks looking forward to hearing from you.....

[@LozHarrop]

Sam Cramp Hi Sam, there are loads of Shaun richardsons on facebook I couldnt find you to add you. I dont have a full kit for sale maybe 12 at the most. Cheers.