Bishop Robert Barron: Christianity and the Catholic Church | Lex Fridman Podcast

[@lexfridman]

Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Mizzen+Main: mizzenandmain.com and use code LEX to get $35 off - BetterHelp: betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - Notion: notion.com/startups to get up to $1000 off team plan - Blinkist: blinkist.com/lex and use code LEX to get 25% off premium - Eight Sleep: www.eightsleep.com/lex and use code LEX to get special savings 0:45 - Who is God? 14:25 - Christianity 19:13 - Sin 36:43 - The Trinity 38:27 - Catholicism 48:24 - Sexual abuse scandal 55:11 - Evil 1:06:55 - Atheism 1:18:16 - Jordan Peterson 1:20:51 - Jesus 1:23:37 - The Bible 1:26:12 - America 1:29:03 - Nietzsche 1:33:07 - Word on Fire 1:36:26 - Gay marriage 1:38:43 - Abortion 1:45:33 - Advice for young people 1:48:08 - Mortality 1:52:25 - Meaning of life

[@Ittiz]

"one of the greatest educators in the world on Catholicism" lol. He just happened to be in the right place in the right time. Listen to/read some Scott Hahn!

[@bensedaghat1521]

@lexfridman you need to Interview Robert Edward Grant and Nassim Haramein

[@smedrano1964]

I really enjoyed this. It was a very deep conversation about who God is what Love is. Concepts that I have to contemplate and understand more deeply. Thanks for this Lex!

[@Clayn101]

All life comes from life. So is the environment not alive or of life? Purpose of life seems to be manipulation at an elemental degree."Free Will" How to get something from nothing..

[@Thomasfboyle]

Top tier men, big brain energy

[@seanhigginsofficial]

I replay this conversation several times a week and finally stopped myself today to ask why. I’ve determined that I connect to how it relates to the inner dialogue between myself concerning God. Although I believe, I often doubt, and hearing Bishop Barton’s articulate responses puts me at ease. Lex’s questions are also the main concerns floating around in my head and I am forever grateful that he has the courage to ask. Thank you to both men and God bless everyone watching.

[@MovedByBeauty]

Yeah, this is a very insightful discussion. ❤

[@lovejumanji5]

Pause , are they pushing LF on you ?

[@davidford9848]

The “I AM” made the bush and indwelt it

[@abejar99]

Just last night I'd been thinking that God is a moving target, we can never aim so truly that we hit the mark; but we must always keep aiming

[@Theclap94]

I just got baptised into the catholic church this past holy Saturday before Easter. I'm 29 , I'm truly blessed to be apart of the younger generation turning back to the church .

[@jimferris9447]

A good friend of mine in high school - a brilliant guy - has been a brain surgeon for decades now. When he was in the middle of his studies in medical school he told me “I know so many students and especially professors that think that since they are scientists they are beyond religion or the notion of God. They really are dismissive of faith and people if faith - often arrogantly so. I’ve had the opposite experience: knowing ever more about how the world works - including human beings - makes me appreciate God even more. The more I know, the more I realize how much I don’t know. And the more I know, the more creation becomes a miracle to me and the more it draws me closer to God.”

[@steveflorida5849]

However, those secular scientists do Not know the source and origin of Life, and human Consciousness.

[@XBadger1]

The physist heisenberg said "the first gulp from the glass of natural science will make one an aethiest, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you."

[@noreenanderson336]

😊😊😊

[@corb5654]

"A brilliant guy". Appeal to authority fallacy.

[@alexhurtado2572]

It’s all perspective huh. You can appreciate the beauty of creation while others are appreciating the scientific aspect of it.

[@SkepticallyFaithful]

I've seen Bishop Barron interviewed probably hundreds of times. This is far and beyond the most well-structured interview he has ever been a part of. Lex is respectful, direct with his questions, and LISTENS. What a host. So much respect for these two. Thank you for this conversation!

[@oliverclark5604]

Isaiah King, Bishop Robert Barron does not help to lead me to keep 'covenant, non-presumed qualitative reciprocity' of inseparable union and procreation in valid and proper marriage. Bishop Barron has been groomed by diseased "familyist" family members to be complicit in tax exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud with an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic status inducement for the economic advantage of these family members. "The cause and remedy of the clerical sexual abuse crisis is within the family" (reported by Crux as stated by Pope Francis' delegate, Cardinal Arlindo Furtado, at the conclusion of Pope Francis' Synod on "Youth, Vocation and Discernment", October 2018). Bishop Robert Barron as not a consecrated celibate married by vows to Christ is incapable of understanding 'qualitative equality' kept or allowed in uncertainty of belief in consecrated Jesuit religious order priest married by vows to Christ, Pope Francis', simultaneous authorisations in exercising an absolute power of authorisation on or just after 10 June 2021. These authorisations, to surpass ethical utilitarianism, were simultaneous by Pope Francis and were of his Vatican State Secretariat of State's applications with 100% accuracy of: 1. ensuring in the case of Vatican state Cardinal Angelo Becciu + 9 alleged embezzlement of tax exempt procreation role ensuring gift charity donations; 2. insuring in the case of the Italian state "Zan" anti-homophobia bill risk of fraud on cost of insuring union need of identities in valid and proper marriages . These authorisations by Pope Francis de facto adding "qualitative equality" to "inseparable' of union and procreation in marriage (cf. Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter, "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12: marriage has: "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation") were of applications by his Vatican state Secretariat of State of ensuring procreation gift within the family and insuring union need of identities within the family with 100% accuracy, This accuracy authorised by Pope Francis surpasses ethically utilitarian inaccurate "Catholic teaching" that "holy virginity surpasses marriage in excellence" (Encyclical Letter of Pope Pius X11, "Of Holy Virginity", Sacra virginitas, 1954, 24; cf. Pope St John Paul 11, "Letter to Families", FC, 1981, 16: "the church has constantly defended the superiority of this charism ["virginity or celibacy"] to that of marriage"; "opinion" of St Paul at RSV 1Cor7:25-35.)

[@oliverclark5604]

Isaiah King, The "ulterior motives" of Bishop Barron are from an insincere place such as St Thomas Aquinas disregarding 'qualitative equality' of reason thinking 'do-ing' and having faith 'be-ing': "I only do what the Father does ... the Father and I are one". These "motives" are as hidden as occult and incest connected as substitute mate for grooming by diseased family member "familyists" of psychologically and or emotionally vulnerable family members in their supposed helper of the family roles, such as Bishop Barron, for their families' economic tax exemption and insurance cost advantages with non-economic higher vocation status inducements. Pope Francis corrected the sleight of hand typified by Bishop Barron's conduct of this tax exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud from 10 June 2021 in the: 1. alleged embezzlement of tax exempt charity donations case of his Vatican state citizens, Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine others presently been in Pope Francis' Vatican state court; 2. unacceptable risk of fraud on identities of family members need of union case of the "Zan" anti-homophobia bill before the Italian state Parliament (defeated after a protest by Pope Francis' Vatican state Secretariat of State in early November 2021).

[@7days_week]

The listening part, you're right, that what makes him unique.

[@oliverclark5604]

to @isaiahking..., The "interview" is falsely purported presumed adequate as a process but falsely because its arithmetic process does not have kept or allowed its inseparability and qualitative equality with geometric progress. "structure..." as purported presumed "seen" by you cannot be seen but only in uncertainty "believed" as by Mary, mother of Jesus as recorded at Luke 1:45.

[@SkepticallyFaithful]

@@oliverclark5604 Okay, Sheldon Cooper.

[@eduardocrestani2454]

Baptized as a baby in the Catholic Church, 27 years just believing in God, 7 years being an unchurched Christian and now 11 years Catholic by the grace of God. Bishop Barron was one of the priests who helped me during my conversion through the videos. Congratulations Lex for the interview

[@johnbrion4565]

Bishop Barron also had a great impact on me and my decision to come back to God.

[@jedjethro]

What on earth is he saying?

[@billyhr2311]

I'm an Evangelical Christian. Been listening to Father Barron for over a decade. Truly a great communicator

[@Beethovenviolin]

@@jedjethro I deleted my rude comment realizing yours was probably an innocent question not a sarcastic one. My apology.

[@Beethovenviolin]

@@billyhr2311 we are closer than we sometimes think to unity among the faiths. It would take each of us having humility and charity.

[@alexandratupy9716]

This conversation helped me crawl out of a dark place this week. Thank you both.

[@theresacroghan6]

Oh isn’t he such a comforting clear voice!💖

[@Autobotmatt428]

Feel better

[@jshauns]

I want you to know - you're not alone. I am merely just a word on a screen, but if you need to chat - DM me.

[@incharini]

Definitely not alone. He helped reinstall some faith onto the Catholic church. I'm convinced that most Priests don't talk at this intellectual level not just because they can (some can obviously), but because if they do they will lose 95% of the population. Thank you Bishop Barron!

[@thelordofgifts5343]

God be with you bro

[@stephenbeach6700]

The fact that Lex has such range that he is able to have a conversation like this puts him as one of the very top podcasters in my mind.

[@australopithecusafarensis8927]

Lex has gone from one of the worst interviewers to one of the best

[@PaperGrape]

Hear, hear

[@BlacksmithTWD]

@@australopithecusafarensis8927 Then I've only seen the good ones.

[@reginar0529]

Top thinkers - Top explorers of human experience and human minds

[@Kitiwake]

Why can't he open his mouth when he speaks then?

[@averageman4372]

This man has dedicated a big part of his life understanding The Bible. We get to see the abstract of all those years of learning in a concentraded 2 hour video. I can't help but think that this kind of information was not available even 10 years back. If you're careful about what you choose to ingest, you can transform quickly. Humanity has taken a technological shift and it's truly a blessing to live in this day

[@oliverclark5604]

to Average Man, Humanity has taken a humanisation shift from the description of the multiplier in economics in 1930 and its testing from 1931-1964 on Oxford University, UK, Institute of Agricultural Economics data finding "just about paripassu rate of growth of population [marriage] and food supplies in the developing countries [eucharist]." This 'qualitative equality ', that Aquinas as a purported consecrated Dominican religious order celibate did not know nor intuit, added to describe "inseparable aspects: union and procreation" (Pope St Paul V1, "Of Human Life", HV, 1968, 12) in valid and proper marriage escapes Bishop Barron as not a consecrated religious order celibate married by vows to Christ. Such a married person by vows to Christ is Pope Francis as a consecrated celibate Jesuit order priest and this qualitative equality has not escaped him.

[@youuuuuuuuuuu]

@@JaketheBakedSsnake It’s a bot man

[@PeteV80]

Well said

[@hellfiresiayan]

even more, he's constantly referring to work done by monks and priests dead for centuries who spent their entire lives studying the bible as well. he speaks a language older than English with even more unique concepts

[@torsteinnordstrand170]

The truth is that, in modern times, moral and ethical progress is done despite biblical writings, not because of it. To intellectually transform the biblical war god from cruel, fickle and jealous to a "god of love" is strangely both sad and wonderful. We are weird animals indeed.

[@I.Am.Will.]

Lex seemed genuinely engaged with this conversation. I enjoyed the podcast quite a lot, as I was baptized last week and accepted Jesus' truth. I had spent years of my adolescence and my young adult life learning and searching for God, looking at many major religions but I always found that the bible spoke almost directly to me. The more I learned the true definitions of terms the more and more it made sense. I suggest anyone who is interested in the bible further listen to the Jordan Peterson interview of Bishop Barron.

[@JJ-hx8eo]

He sees a lot of poetry in the Bible. I agree.

[@thiagocesarlousadamarsola3990]

As a catholic scientist, I really appreciated this conversation, and I appreciate people like Lex and Robert. Thank you so much :)

[@seanmadison6360]

A Catholic scientist. haha

[@thiagocesarlousadamarsola3990]

Yep, believe it or not haha. Have a B.S. in Electrical Engineering, M.Sc in Aerospace Engineering and a specialization in Data Science. Faith and Science for me are the two wings of the truth

[@specialteams28]

Who is “Robert”? Did you mean Bishop Barron? In addition to being a catholic scientist are you a fellow bishop and friend of Bishop Barron’s or a close relative maybe?

[@collegewifi5024]

@@thiagocesarlousadamarsola3990 I hope you're a scientist who is Catholic, not a Catholic scientist lmao.

[@thiagocesarlousadamarsola3990]

I called Bishop Barron by his first name just to indicate that, like Lex, I appreciate him as a person. But no haha, I don't have any close relationship with him, unfortunately :)

[@andeg8647]

Reluctantly started listening and ~ 2hrs melted away. Powerful guest.

[@finallythere100]

I thought God said "I am the Great I Am". (We all are who we are, aren't we?). When the man asked about the LINE between God and hell, I was waiting to hear about GETTING and STAYING in a State of Grace. The young man keeps asking him, and he does a good job asking and trying to pinpoint... but I'm NOT hearing what needs to be said. Lots of fuzzy talk here, unclear and avoiding the point. Not just di we will the good of the other? Yes Jesus said he will account for every farthing, that means the other person AND Obeying God. He seems to be poo posing the need to get in the state of grace.

[@tambam7340]

You try to save yourself ... you can never obey our Father .... only He can get us into an obeying state. One day there won't be any 'obeying' because He will have drawn ALL things (men..dogs..a leaf) to Himself. Thank You Jesus for the cross

[@bradweinberger6907]

@@finallythere100 not every teacher is perfect for every level of learning. Bishop Baron is good for reaching out to those outside the church. Others are better at instructing once a member of the church.

[@finallythere100]

@@bradweinberger6907 I'm going to have to cry foul on this one. That bar needs to be raised WAY up. You are pandering and making excuses. In every professional role, one has their target specialties and relative strengths. That said, I MUST emphasize very clearly - CLARITY is what is lacking from Bishop Barron when it comes to highly relevant Church teaching. A lack of clarity is deceptive. As a baseline, EVERY clergy member, from priest on up to pope, MUST be clear about basic Church teaching. He is a very intelligent man and can figure out how to convey the needed messages with love, in the day and age. Especially in light of the German bishops just declaring homosexual acts are not sinful. . Certainly the Vatican must have known about this and approved, unofficially at this time, and I'm expecting it to be approved in 2023. Certainly in light of all the other heresies we are hearing about recently, having to do with the validation of all religions, because "God wills it". You can make any excuses you want, but the bottomline is that the True Church is separating from the Ape of the Church. Those clergy that speak with clarity and uphold the orthodox Catholic Faith, the Traditional , unchanging dogma. are of the True Church. There is simply NO excuse for this,

[@bradweinberger6907]

@@finallythere100are you proposing that the exact same messege be appropriate for a militant athiet as a mormon as a Evangelical Christian? This is the equivalent of teaching first grade science and talking about anti matter. It's not appropriate even if it's true.

[@pothecary]

This conversation is drenched in the Good, the True, and the Beautiful. Thank you Lex for bringing Bishop Barron on!

[@torsteinnordstrand170]

Sorry to say, it's all hand wavering, smoke and mirrors.

[@bethq1703]

Might want to check out Cathecism if you really want idea of Catholic teachings. Let's just say that it is 100 percent accurate whereas worldliness has infiltrated and skewed training or thinking of some hierarchy and clergy. Sadly we now have situation in our Catholic Church where not every Bishop or priest is adhering to Catholic doctrine and teaching ie the Catholic Faith.

[@CarapaceClavicle]

@@torsteinnordstrand170 Catholics don’t get the luxury of troubling the waters and moving on. Explain your position and how it’s not based upon your arbitrary personal preferences.

[@torsteinnordstrand170]

@@CarapaceClavicle excuse me? Not a native English speaker so not sure I understand, sorry.

[@CarapaceClavicle]

@@torsteinnordstrand170 lol how would you even begin to know that it’s all “hand wavering, smoke and mirrors” if you don’t understand English while in the video they’re speaking English?

[@BlackLemonT]

My Christmas Day catching up while cleaning my backyard getting ready far family lunch 🙏🏽. Merry Christmas everyone, we are all here by the grace of God. Thank you Bishop Barron from Australia 🇦🇺

[@mickeyg2635]

To quote a friend of mine,” I enjoy the smart stuff”. Bishop Barron was a big influence in my conversion to Catholicism, mainly because of the smart stuff and his ability to confidently speak to anyone about Jesus.

[@maxsigmon8804]

He was instrumental in my reversion back to Catholicism. I had the faith, but strayed because I didn’t know the intellectual backing for my faith.

[@SilhSe]

16:54 Jesus of Nazareth Bishop points out the identity not just a myth made by other people.

[@hassanmirza2392]

Look man, how about you read Quran and see what it has to say about Jesus? The fact is, that Jesus can not be God and Paul is an immoral figure who distorted Jewish monotheism.

[@mickeyg2635]

@@DirtyLifeLove the church as an organization or the Body of Christ? Historically the church has had many failures due to the people within the organization, but the Body of Christ has changed the face of the world with love and charity, with martyrs and witnesses, with healers and preachers, great priests and great nuns and great Bishops and great Popes. Your statement only says what you can do, which to be blunt, are lies. As one person or one group of people you cannot accomplish the work of Christ’s Church, which is really to save souls, it takes faithful people and the Holy Spirit to do the work of God. Friend, put away your anger, pick up the Book, and go to mass in a good parish (unfortunately you may have to look for a good one, but they are out there), and pray. If your heart is directed at true charity , then the Holy Spirit will do the rest and what you can accomplish will be remarkable.

[@oliverclark5604]

@@maxsigmon8804 Max Sigmon, Bishop Robert Barron as not a consecrated celibate married by vows to Christ is incapable of understanding consecrated Jesuit religious order priest married by vows to Christ, Pope Francis', simultaneous authorisations in exercising an absolute power of authorisation on or just after 10 June 2021. These to surpass ethical utilitarianism simultaneous authorisations by Pope Francis were in the: 1. Vatican state Cardinal Angelo Becciu + 9 alleged embezzlement of procreation role ensuring gift charity donations case; 2. Italian state "Zan" anti-homophobia bill risk of fraud on insuring union need of identities in valid and proper marriages case. These authorisations by Pope Francis de facto adding "qualitative equality" to "inseparable' of union and procreation in marriage were of applications by his Vatican state Secretariat of State of ensuring procreation gift within the family and insuring union need of identities within the family with 100% accuracy, This accuracy authorised by Pope Francis is unlike inaccurate "Catholic teaching" that "holy virginity surpasses marriage in excellence" (Encyclical Letter of Pope Pius X11, "Of Holy Virginity", Sacra virginitas, 1954, 24; cf. Pope St John Paul 11, "Letter to Families", FC, 1981, 16: "the church has constantly defended the superiority of this charism ["virginity or celibacy"] to that of marriage"; "opinion" of St Paul at RSV 1Cor7:25-35.)

[@peterplotts1238]

What a great choice of guest. Lex doesn't just say he's open-minded, as so many do without meaning it, he does open-mindedness.

[@BrockNelson]

William Lane Craig would have provided a conversation that feels less preachy in my opinion. This almost sounded to me like a 2 hour sermon. Hope he can get Bill on in the future - I think it would be electric.

[@modernexistence4206]

@@BrockNelson How can you talk about Christianity as a Christian without being preachy?

[@BrockNelson]

@@modernexistence4206 idk. However William Lane Craig does it lol. He’s a Christian philosopher not a preacher - that’s probably the difference for me, as I don’t consider myself Christian.

[@oliverclark5604]

@@BrockNelson yes, preachy as to fill in in not seeing the occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate non-economic status inducement in the "deep mathematical structure" of the family that Bishop Barron asks where does it come from. Aquinas, Kant etc fill in for Bishop Barron not understanding the more than mathematics in the multiplier in economics revealing Bishop Barron's addiction to non-economic status by association with "higher vocation" purported of groomed purported consecrated celibates in his occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate deal with "familyist" family member groomers of him for their economic advantage of tax exemption by embezzlement and lower insurance cost by fraud.

[@oliverclark5604]

@@modernexistence4206 Christ was not preachy. Why is Bishop Barron preachy in this exchange with Fridman? Bishop Barron asks Fridman his opinion on where deep mathematical structure comes from. On Aquinas he refers to "summum bonum" (highest good). Is their a highest good in the multiplier in economics? Barron refers to intelligibility of the "unitive and procreative in marriage" but steers clear of two inseparable and qualitatively equal aspects of marriage since his church has not added "qualitatively equal" though de facto added from 10 June 2021 by Pope Francis for his own marriage vowed to Christ in the procreative role ensuring gift Vatican state case of Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine others alleged embezzlement of charity donations and the unitive identity insuring need of union case of the "Zan" anti-homophobia bill before the Italian Parliament. How does the structure of the multiplier in economics applied to family go beyond mathematical? Why does Bishop Barron not grasp this?

[@fsujci]

The fluidity with which Bishop Barron speaks between complex subjects is breath taking. Love is an action to do well for the other, as the other. Amazing

[@oliverclark5604]

to fsujci, love is being identity in need of union as well as action of procreation role gift "to do well for the other, as the other" in the keeping or allowing of them in uncertainty of belief as inseparable and qualitatively equal. At time 50:50 of this podcast Bishop Barron in evading his accountability and his amends for his offences of embezzlement and fraud does not keep or allow this inseparability and qualitative equality in his allowing it to appear his holding as "a higher way of love" consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God on the false argument that the celibate is freer to love disinterestedly than the male female couple worried about or distracted by worldly matter in referring to this argument by St Paul at 1Cor7:25-34. On the reference point of Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 of the matters of the Italian state Parliament unacceptable risk of fraud on his insuring and Vatican state ten citizens/employees, including Cardinal Angelo Becciu, alleged embezzlement of his procreation role gift charity donations together at least with my Clark family, with both Pope Francis and my family on the reference point of Mary reported at Luke 1: 29-4, Bishop Barron can and must in his action role - being identity, if a family member of a consecrated marriage, require the combining, and as would be advantageous, of all the activities of procreation role gift helpers of his family. In such a way Bishop Barron can remedy in his accountability and amends, as also was and did Pope Francis and me, and my father, Colin Clark, in my family, his tax-exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud. Bishop Barron failing to correct Fridman not understanding the difference between a celibate marriage promised to man in Christ and a consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ, hence the difference between promise and vow, means that he does not exercise an absolute power of simultaneous authorisations of his applications of his ensuring his procreation role gift and his insuring his need of union of his identity.

[@wilsonsclips_]

Baptised Catholic since two days before Christmas last year. watching Lex with the Bishop was a surprisingly incredibly good podcast. I could watch more between these two. Really good stuff

[@heyjoe556]

This was so good. From someone who grew up Christian until my 30's, then amid a deep 3 yr long depression one day I snapped and lost my faith. At that point I considered myself agnostic (NOT atheist) for almost 2 decades. Now, I am happy to say that I have recently found my way back to Faith but struggling with many topics. This conversation was so encompassing, thoughtful, insightful, and helpful... thank you both Lex & Fr Barron.

[@jjcm3135]

Persevere. Remember “the glory of God is man fully alive. “ st Irenaus.

[@oliverclark5604]

Joe P, for me "insightful" as to why Barron does not mention consecrated celibacy or consecrated male female marriage on the clerical sexual abuse issue. Barron makes no use of Pope Francis' statements and actions on marriage that de facto have changed the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church to include 'qualitatively equal" with "inseparable" for "union and procreation in marriage.

[@jesh879]

May I also suggest Jonathan Pageau and Jordan Peterson? They have amazing insight into Christianity from a symbolic and psychological perspective, respectively. They and Bishop Baron are who led me back to God when no one else could. For the first time I am starting to see the immense complexity and truth in the Bible.

[@heyjoe556]

@@jesh879 yes, I watch a lot of Jordan Peterson as well. Steve Deace has also helped me on my journey back to faith. I don't know Jonathan Pageau and will look him up. You are right the bible is so complex, getting some help seeing into it and also listening to some discuss how it has been translated. Thanks for the comment!

[@jesh879]

@@heyjoe556 I'm so glad if you look up Jonathan!! Start at episode one of the symbolic world, as he builds up on language and concepts to that he can explore deeper things with his audience. I will also find Steve Deace!

[@graysonmichael9696]

Bishop Barron is doing a great service explaining Christianity to a generation of people who have been taught to think of it as some bland, empty, dust covered ornament of Jesus sitting on their grandmother's night stand. Even though I follow the Orthodox tradition of Christianity, Barron is a great thinker, a great lecturer and an important figure in re-igniting the flame of a true, spiritual Christianity that even agnostics might find value in. I believe - or perhaps I hope - it could lead to a massive conversion of people in the West who are starved of purpose and meaning in their lives, and who seek to understand the religion that our ancestors held so dearly for almost 2000 years. Side note: I used to be a Liberal, in fact I used to mock Christians. It wasn't until a major crises in my own life that God literally "revealed" himself to me, and after years of reading and studying, I began to understand Christianity for what it really is. My life has never been the same since.

[@bethq1703]

Might want to check out Cathecism if you really want idea of Catholic teachings. Let's just say that it is 100 percent accurate whereas worldliness has infiltrated and skewed training or thinking of some hierarchy and clergy. Sadly we now have situation in our Catholic Church where not every Bishop or priest is adhering to Catholic doctrine and teaching ie the Catholic Faith.

[@graysonmichael9696]

​@@bethq1703 Completely agree. My family comes from a long line of French Catholics, some of my all time favourite writers/thinkers are Catholic. However part of the reason I moved to the Orthodox church is because I entirely reject Vatican II and liberalized Catholicism and I can't in good faith follow the current Vatican (the Catholic churches in Canada flying rainbow flags outside was a pretty good indication it's only going to get worse). I'm not sure what Barron's stance is on Vatican II, and frankly I've only listened to maybe 1 or 2 episodes of his Word on Fire podcast (I thought they were pretty good), but if you'll notice I said he's explaining *Christianity*, generally speaking, (Not Catholicism) in a way that people might "invite" people to start looking into it themselves, and the fact that he's on a podcast that is very "science and technology" heavy is surprising.

[@theguy8111]

@@graysonmichael9696 hey man, I wouldnt let corruption let you leave the Catholic Church, because if Christ truely founded it, then its the trutha and we should submit to it and help it in whatever way we can. Yes I know its hard, but we cannot abandon it. God bless

[@graysonmichael9696]

@@theguy8111 I carry no hatred for Catholics or the Catholic church, all Christians are my brothers/sisters in Christ. Further, I hope nothing more than a return to traditional Catholicism within the church, but that comes down to whether or not the bishops have the courage to defend their faith or surrender to this alien, liberalized, equalitarian global religion that is taking form not just within the Vatican but almost every denomination besides Orthodoxy. But allow me to clarify, the changes within the Roman Catholic church were not the ONLY reason why I converted to Orthodoxy. I didn't simply "run away" from Catholicism. There are many other reasons in regard to theology and doctrine that I found home in the Orthodox church.

[@danieltemelkovski9828]

@@graysonmichael9696 I'm coming from the opposite direction, raised orthodox, then drifted away, and finding myself drawn to catholicism. But so much of what I've seen has seemed like woke progressivism with a catholic overlay. I find it extremely repulsive, not to mention extremely disappointing to see the church succumbing to this brain disease.

[@glenn-younger]

This is a rich conversation whether you have a consciously spiritual life or not. Two quotes that popped out when Lex asked what advice Bishop Barron would give to young people just starting out, which is also applicable to any age. 1) "Find what you're good at-it's a gift from God-and dedicate it to Love." 2) "Your choice has to be disciplined, and your desires directed."

[@amorrobel]

Profound statements.

[@glenn-younger]

@@amorrobel They are, aren't they? They've been rolling around in my mind.

[@bethq1703]

Might want to check out Cathecism if you really want idea of Catholic teachings. Let's just say that it is 100 percent accurate whereas worldliness has infiltrated and skewed training or thinking of some hierarchy and clergy. Sadly we now have situation in our Catholic Church where not every Bishop or priest is adhering to Catholic doctrine and teaching ie the Catholic Faith.

[@glenn-younger]

@@bethq1703 True that! Sigh. Humans will be humans. When I first moved to Italy, I formed an Improvisational Theater Group. The only stage available to us was at a Catholic Church. They accepted us and I got to know the priest, who was a pretty good one. We had lots of conversations about the spirit of the Church versus the historical and political organization of it. Needless to say, they were good conversations and he enriched my understanding of Catholicism immeasurably. Thank you for opening a chat and reaching out!

[@oliverclark5604]

to "Glenn ...", I believe in uncertainty that the "choice" can and must be also a 'covenant, non-presumed reciprocal' choice. Bishop Barron is incapable of understanding "qualitatively equal" in "reciprocal" on the basis of both Aquinas only teaching "inseparable" for faith and reason and that he is not married as are a male female couple by vows to God and a consecrated celibate by vows to Christ such as is Pope Francis as a Jesuit religious order priest.

[@MatthewWayne33]

Probably the single deepest, thought provoking, and soul stirring case for Faith on the Internet today. God Bless you Bishop Barron

[@huveja9799]

On the horizon of the dawn of reason is Faith, it is the luminosity that arises from the darkest to give us hope that there is a tomorrow .. God's promise is that if we walk towards that light, he will continue to feed our reason and heart with more and more light, until we too become part of that light ..

[@mylesanthony8672]

I’m an atheist, but my old philosophy teacher was obsessed with this Bishop, I’m starting to gather why.

[@stormmakers]

Yea but nothing can take away that he is part of an organized crime ring of child molesters. I am very disappointed anyone from that church would be given a platform in costume and all.

[@bethq1703]

Might want to check out Cathecism if you really want idea of Catholic teachings. Let's just say that it is 100 percent accurate whereas worldliness has infiltrated and skewed training or thinking of some hierarchy and clergy. Sadly we now have situation in our Catholic Church where not every Bishop or priest is adhering to Catholic doctrine and teaching ie the Catholic Faith.

[@He.knows.nothing]

Fundementalist protestants have more/less castrated themselves from their own historical foundations. So much so that they haven't the slightest clue about how much the evolution and growth of their own religion has its roots in Greco-Roman philosophy. I'm atheist as well, having deconverted from a fundamentalist sect, and it wasn't until I started my own amateur research into philosophy chronologically that I came upon this realization. I still have a serious stance in opposition to many of the Christian beliefs and much of what Baron has said, but communicators like Baron and Jonathan Pageau and even Jordan Peterson (although I'd argue that he's really gone off the deep end lately) have really instigated a presentation of theology that is seriously engaging for those outside of their traditions. They talked about atheists like Dawkins in the beginning and I just can't help but think about how much the dominant atheist ideology is influenced by the fundementalism that has become dominant in western Christianity. The idea of a sky daddy limits the atheists just as much as it does the theists.

[@evillano]

@@He.knows.nothing Sky daddy argument is super widespread, sadly.

[@He.knows.nothing]

@@evillano I believe the perversion itself to be the religion's worst enemy. An antichrist in its own right

[@Coldestadam]

As an AI practitioner and devout Catholic, I have been waiting ages for a conversation between these two! Love all the work and positivity your bring Lex!

[@truetech4158]

Schizophrenia served with smiley willful ignorance, is when you don't care about the fact that arsons never produce afterlives. My home received an arson threat from a smiley unapologetic catholic cleptomaniac. You have medically untreated schizophrenia. Face the music.

[@blinktheworld33]

I’m not religious but I’ve been fallowing bishop Barron for 10 years, he is so insightful and really cool, so it’s awesome to see these two talk!!

[@fernandopineda4391]

Whoa! What a combo, bro. Intense.

[@darkethan34]

WTF is an AI practitioner ?

[@oliverclark5604]

Adam, Bishop Robert Barron does not help to lead me to keep 'covenant, non-presumed qualitative reciprocity' of inseparable union and procreation in valid and proper marriage. Bishop Barron has been groomed by diseased "familyist" family members to be complicit in tax exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud with an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic status inducement for the economic advantage of these family members. "The cause and remedy of the clerical sexual abuse crisis is within the family" (reported by Crux as stated by Pope Francis' delegate, Cardinal Arlindo Furtado, at the conclusion of Pope Francis' Synod on "Youth, Vocation and Discernment", October 2018). Bishop Robert Barron as not a consecrated celibate married by vows to Christ is incapable of understanding 'qualitative equality' kept or allowed in uncertainty of belief in consecrated Jesuit religious order priest married by vows to Christ, Pope Francis', simultaneous authorisations in exercising an absolute power of authorisation on or just after 10 June 2021. These authorisations, to surpass ethical utilitarianism, were simultaneous by Pope Francis and were of his Vatican State Secretariat of State's applications with 100% accuracy of: 1. ensuring in the case of Vatican state Cardinal Angelo Becciu + 9 alleged embezzlement of tax exempt procreation role ensuring gift charity donations; 2. insuring in the case of the Italian state "Zan" anti-homophobia bill risk of fraud on cost of insuring union need of identities in valid and proper marriages . These authorisations by Pope Francis de facto adding "qualitative equality" to "inseparable' of union and procreation in marriage (cf. Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter, "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12: marriage has: "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation") were of applications by his Vatican state Secretariat of State of ensuring procreation gift within the family and insuring union need of identities within the family with 100% accuracy, This accuracy authorised by Pope Francis surpasses ethically utilitarian inaccurate "Catholic teaching" that "holy virginity surpasses marriage in excellence" (Encyclical Letter of Pope Pius X11, "Of Holy Virginity", Sacra virginitas, 1954, 24; cf. Pope St John Paul 11, "Letter to Families", FC, 1981, 16: "the church has constantly defended the superiority of this charism ["virginity or celibacy"] to that of marriage"; "opinion" of St Paul at RSV 1Cor7:25-35.)

[@TonyNokeo]

Lex, Thank you for introducing me to this incredible man of God. I have return to the Church on 2020, accepted Christ at my savior recently, and will be Baptized soon. While I am not a Catholic (I am a Southern Baptist), I have never heard someone explain God and Christianity so clearly before. This Bishop is a masterful communicator. I will be re-watching this particular episode and dissecting it for weeks to come. Thank you again!

[@juliemarquez92]

Tony- Bishop Barron has a ton of wonderful videos on KZbin that you might find interesting. I invite you to check them out. You won’t be disappointed!! Godspeed!

[@vegvisirphotography5632]

He also protects and enables Pedophiles. Are you a Pedophile?.... Do you support pedophiles? It would appear so.

[@marynayna6327]

Yes also check out Word on Fire,the best place for Bishop Barron.

[@bethq1703]

Might want to check out Cathecism if you really want idea of Catholic teachings. Let's just say that it is 100 percent accurate whereas worldliness has infiltrated and skewed training or thinking of some hierarchy and clergy. Sadly we now have situation in our Catholic Church where not every Bishop or priest is adhering to Catholic doctrine and teaching ie the Catholic Faith.

[@oliverclark5604]

Tony Nokeo, Bishop Robert Barron does not help to lead me to keep 'covenant, non-presumed qualitative reciprocity' of inseparable union and procreation in valid and proper marriage. Bishop Barron has been groomed by diseased "familyist" family members to be complicit in tax exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud with an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic status inducement for the economic advantage of these family members. "The cause and remedy of the clerical sexual abuse crisis is within the family" (reported by Crux as stated by Pope Francis' delegate, Cardinal Arlindo Furtado, at the conclusion of Pope Francis' Synod on "Youth, Vocation and Discernment", October 2018). Bishop Robert Barron as not a consecrated celibate married by vows to Christ is incapable of understanding 'qualitative equality' kept or allowed in uncertainty of belief in consecrated Jesuit religious order priest married by vows to Christ, Pope Francis', simultaneous authorisations in exercising an absolute power of authorisation on or just after 10 June 2021. These authorisations, to surpass ethical utilitarianism, were simultaneous by Pope Francis and were of his Vatican State Secretariat of State's applications with 100% accuracy of: 1. ensuring in the case of Vatican state Cardinal Angelo Becciu + 9 alleged embezzlement of tax exempt procreation role ensuring gift charity donations; 2. insuring in the case of the Italian state "Zan" anti-homophobia bill risk of fraud on cost of insuring union need of identities in valid and proper marriages . These authorisations by Pope Francis de facto adding "qualitative equality" to "inseparable' of union and procreation in marriage (cf. Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter, "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12: marriage has: "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation") were of applications by his Vatican state Secretariat of State of ensuring procreation gift within the family and insuring union need of identities within the family with 100% accuracy, This accuracy authorised by Pope Francis surpasses ethically utilitarian inaccurate "Catholic teaching" that "holy virginity surpasses marriage in excellence" (Encyclical Letter of Pope Pius X11, "Of Holy Virginity", Sacra virginitas, 1954, 24; cf. Pope St John Paul 11, "Letter to Families", FC, 1981, 16: "the church has constantly defended the superiority of this charism ["virginity or celibacy"] to that of marriage"; "opinion" of St Paul at RSV 1Cor7:25-35.)

[@keegan1728]

This was by far the best podcast I’ve ever listened to. I will definitely have to replay it again as the bishop graciously explains his positions in-depth, fleshing out some of his reasonings and also the concepts/frameworks etc. Thank you Lex & Bishop Baron.

[@healthystrong9107]

srsy wow u knownothnkg of God's word ¸if you pretend to be a believer.

[@JessBlake2]

Except that Barron doesn't have positions. He rambles incoherently. Did you listen to his explanation of the trinity (total nonsense), or god isn't an entity, then describes an entity doing things, god isnt an entity but has an image of himself, etc. The church is an organism but not an organization. Blather, blather, blather.

[@tommore3263]

@@JessBlake2 Oh. So its not that you obviously don't have a clue what he's talking about so coherently and brilliantly.

[@riaanvanniekerk1567]

Sometimes I wish KZbin was available when I grew up. I can listen to this man for days. He clarifies so many questions I had since being little. Good job Lex and bishop Barron. Keep it coming, please.

[@oliverclark5604]

to Riaan Van Niekert, Bishop Robert Barron's job in his role should be ensuring his procreation gift role as a helper of the family within the family. Instead, Barron sees his job as to include to cover up his complicity in sexual abuse of minors and other vulnerable family members. This cover up by Barton is with a non-economic status inducement of association with a falsely purported presumed “higher vocation” of celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to male-female marriage vowed to God for economic advantage of his family by tax-exemption embezzlement and lower insurance costs by fraud. This complicity by Barron is as revealed by the exercise of an absolute power (God) of joining in consecrated either male female or celibate marriage. This joining is on the reference point of the other consecrated marriage; that is, male female on celibate and vice versa in covenant, non-presumed reciprocity. This exercise of an absolute power is of simultaneous authorisations of applications of ensuring family member procreation role gift and insuring need of union of family member identity. This exercise by me out occults Barron’s occult evil position at time 50:50 - 54:23 of his interview by Lex Fridman c.mid-2022 of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ as "a higher [vocation] way of love" than consecrated male-female marriage vowed to God. From Oliver Clark for "Job's Trust", Brisbane, Australia acting on a direction of me as a catechist by the Pope's Council for the Laity, Vice-President, Bishop Paul Cordes, through the parish I served of the Kenmore Catholic Community of the Archdiocese of Brisbane, Australia (ref. no. 874/94/S-61/F on the preceding letter to me from Bishop Cordes, dated 24 June 1994) asking its contents be communicated to me, and on his advice to me as Archbishop President of the Pope's Council "Cor Unum" in his letter addressing “Job’s Trust” through Emmanuel Covenant Community of this Archdiocese, dated 11 May 2001.

[@Tyrannosaurus_5000]

@pa_2600 Are you stupid? The comment was about their experience as a child. Moreover, Bishop Strickland is a much better human being than Barron. Barron is a shill for the corrupt Pachamama/WEF crew currently at the Vatican.

[@AliceInPantera]

I’m going through a really difficult time in life and this episode fell in to my lap just in time. Thank you Lex! Thank you Bishop Barron!

[@Autobotmatt428]

I pray you get though your difficult times and become stronger for it.

[@PrinceVega]

Hang in there, I promise that life will get better soon! And for not giving up, I just want to say that I'm proud of you. Have a beautiful day/night!

[@lancelance9314]

Praying for your peace

[@ianp3112]

You need to get real help, not get pandered to by theistic zealots!

[@TheLikesofMeh]

Keep your head up!

[@alfei03]

I've been experiencing so many synchronicities as I've been educating myself about Catholicism and the Bible. Crazy to me that this was uploaded today. Thank you both for this fantastic conversation.

[@anonp2958]

We all experience "synchronicities", they are perfectly rational and logical coincidences that are born out of chaos. As you stated "crazy to me that this was uploaded today", are you believing this is a message or sign specifically for you?

[@ejh5628]

Keep following the path! "The Catholic Church is perfectly balanced." That statement has borne out to be true for me when I converted 15 years ago. The authors of the Gospels were writing down something they witnessed. They could have never made it all up in light of the Old Testament. (And for me, the mystics of the church brought so much life to the gospels...the jurisdictional difference between the temporal and spiritual, grounded in Christ.)

[@truetech4158]

If skitzos say they have a real invisible friend, why do skitzos prefer to be called religious?

[@truetech4158]

@@ejh5628 my home received an arson threat from a smiley catholic. Arsons never produce afterlives even if you don't care about the difference between fact and fiction. Have you been clinically tested for schizophrenia yet? Avoiding mental healthcare?

[@brianroman4114]

Frequency illusion? Not to mention algorithms feeding you what you've already been watching

[@michaelohara2161]

GOD is present in the Eucharist. I am 60 years old. At about 40 years old, I asked GOD, for a long time, why I felt nothing during communion. I weeks later, after being persistent, I had an emotional eucharistic experience. It happened while receiving the Precious Blood. I came away understanding you can not experience GOD in His glory in your body, without physically dying.. I begged GOD to stop, when He allowed me to feel a small fraction of Himself. I don’t know if It was the Father, Son, or Holy Spirit or All three at once. I just could not hold His Glory, experience Him, to the point of a type of awestruck electrocution. I cried with Happiness for hours afterward. I have not felt this again, but I know GOD answered my prayer.

[@StrawberrySoul77]

Thank you for sharing ✝️💟

[@arlen1630]

Sounds like a breakdown 😮

[@biggzzify]

had you eaten any mushrooms prior

[@ignatiusjackson235]

​@@biggzzify I like shrooms a lot, but I prefer the Eucharist.

[@Christoph-hc2xr]

LMAO. The last supper is a representation of cannibalism. Your so-called profound experience was a delusion.

[@lgiron6233]

Thank you for interviewing Bishop Barron. I’ve been following his word on fire content since before he as a bishop. He brought me out of the wilderness and back home to the faith. He showed me that faith and reason are not opposed.

[@oliverclark5604]

to lgiron, Bishop Robert Barron's job in his role should be ensuring his procreation gift role as a helper of the family within the family. Instead, Barron sees his job as to include to cover up his complicity in sexual abuse of minors and other vulnerable family members. This cover up by Barton is with a non-economic status inducement of association with a falsely purported presumed “higher vocation” of celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to male-female marriage vowed to God for economic advantage of his family by tax-exemption embezzlement and lower insurance costs by fraud. This complicity by Barron is as revealed by the exercise of an absolute power (God) of joining in consecrated either male female or celibate marriage. This joining is on the reference point of the other consecrated marriage; that is, male female on celibate and vice versa in covenant, non-presumed reciprocity. This exercise of an absolute power is of simultaneous authorisations of applications of ensuring family member procreation role gift and insuring need of union of family member identity. This exercise by me out occults Barron’s occult evil position at time 50:50 - 54:23 of his interview by Lex Fridman c.mid-2022 of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ as "a higher [vocation] way of love" than consecrated male-female marriage vowed to God. From Oliver Clark for "Job's Trust", Brisbane, Australia acting on a direction of me as a catechist by the Pope's Council for the Laity, Vice-President, Bishop Paul Cordes, through the parish I served of the Kenmore Catholic Community of the Archdiocese of Brisbane, Australia (ref. no. 874/94/S-61/F on the preceding letter to me from Bishop Cordes, dated 24 June 1994) asking its contents be communicated to me, and on his advice to me as Archbishop President of the Pope's Council "Cor Unum" in his letter addressing “Job’s Trust” through Emmanuel Covenant Community of this Archdiocese, dated 11 May 2001.

[@dposton15]

One of the joys of my life is deep conversation. Having the opportunity to be a "fly on the wall" for a deep, meaningful conversation between two of my favorite humans was rapturous. This is probably my favorite podcast interview to date. Thank you, Lex, for having on Bishop Barron. What an excellent episode.

[@euginrobinson]

Yes, i get you, it was pretty enlightening .

[@samanthamccarthy325]

totally agree - an honest representation of the faith, deeply satisfying to witness, so beautifully negotiated by both.

[@torsteinnordstrand170]

@@samanthamccarthy325 It's not honest to claim that the god of the bible is a god of love. And I fear that the bishop has wasted his life on a complicated fantasy. Which in my view is a tragedy considering his decent nature. Behind his learned enthusiasm I suspect lies a deep sorrow, and profound loneliness. But I realize I'm in the minority thinking so.

[@bethq1703]

@@samanthamccarthy325 Might want to check out Cathecism if you really want idea of Catholic teachings. Let's just say that it is 100 percent accurate whereas worldliness has infiltrated and skewed training or thinking of some hierarchy and clergy. Sadly we now have situation in our Catholic Church where not every Bishop or priest is adhering to Catholic doctrine and teaching ie the Catholic Faith.

[@samanthamccarthy325]

@@torsteinnordstrand170 My trust in the claim that God is a God of love comes from Jesus - love one another as I have loved you, he said, and proceeded to demonstrate what love actually looks like in action. Christianity really is all about Jesus. It took me a long time to realise that. Come to me all you who are weary, he says, and I will give you rest. That rest only needs to be experienced once to know beyond doubt that the words spoken by Jesus are unlike the words spoken by any other man. In the end it's a choice - if Jesus is who he says he is, do you want to know? If you don't then you are still free to move on and live a good life as you see fit for God sends rain on the righteous and unrighteous alike. Out of love he calls each person forward without coercion or manipulation, to come closer to him, but it would not be love if the other was not free to choose...

[@bc5612]

Bishop you were terrific (as usual). Hope your words touched the hearts and minds of those searching for the truth.

[@oliverclark5604]

B C, Bishop Robert Barron does not help to lead me to keep 'covenant, non-presumed qualitative reciprocity' of inseparable union and procreation in valid and proper marriage. Bishop Barron has been groomed by diseased "familyist" family members to be complicit in tax exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud with an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic status inducement for the economic advantage of these family members. "The cause and remedy of the clerical sexual abuse crisis is within the family" (reported by Crux as stated by Pope Francis' delegate, Cardinal Arlindo Furtado, at the conclusion of Pope Francis' Synod on "Youth, Vocation and Discernment", October 2018). Bishop Robert Barron as not a consecrated celibate married by vows to Christ is incapable of understanding 'qualitative equality' kept or allowed in uncertainty of belief in consecrated Jesuit religious order priest married by vows to Christ, Pope Francis', simultaneous authorisations in exercising an absolute power of authorisation on or just after 10 June 2021. These authorisations, to surpass ethical utilitarianism, were simultaneous by Pope Francis and were of his Vatican State Secretariat of State's applications with 100% accuracy of: 1. ensuring in the case of Vatican state Cardinal Angelo Becciu + 9 alleged embezzlement of tax exempt procreation role ensuring gift charity donations; 2. insuring in the case of the Italian state "Zan" anti-homophobia bill risk of fraud on cost of insuring union need of identities in valid and proper marriages . These authorisations by Pope Francis de facto adding "qualitative equality" to "inseparable' of union and procreation in marriage (cf. Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter, "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12: marriage has: "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation") were of applications by his Vatican state Secretariat of State of ensuring procreation gift within the family and insuring union need of identities within the family with 100% accuracy, This accuracy authorised by Pope Francis surpasses ethically utilitarian inaccurate "Catholic teaching" that "holy virginity surpasses marriage in excellence" (Encyclical Letter of Pope Pius X11, "Of Holy Virginity", Sacra virginitas, 1954, 24; cf. Pope St John Paul 11, "Letter to Families", FC, 1981, 16: "the church has constantly defended the superiority of this charism ["virginity or celibacy"] to that of marriage"; "opinion" of St Paul at RSV 1Cor7:25-35.)

[@Chris-hd3yc]

Theyll definitely find it if they pay the church!

[@carlosux]

@@Chris-hd3yc 😂 go find out on your own amigo

[@oliverclark5604]

to @bc5612, likely "touched" up for economic advantage of the families of these groomers by tax embezzlement and insurance fraud to purport to presume separation of "heart and mind (NIV Acts 4:32) causing extreme tensions only withstood by those like Mary, mother of Jesus who in uncertainty "believed were of one heart and mind [or RSV "soul"]".

[@michiher2643]

Its absolutely superficial. He stands only for his position. At the same time you stand with your comment for a position too. Thereby I can judge in the same way. I‘m not with everything in common, but when you start to criticize you should do it better!

[@RuachNation82]

Bishop Barron, is a gift to Christ’s Church.

[@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc]

He’s a Catholic representing Catholicism.

[@LeslieKlinger]

I so appreciate that Bishop Barron never dumbs down the Faith, never speaks down to people but speaks in a way that allows us to learn by being drawn into the conversation. It is the spirit of the Dominican Order and, while he is not a Dominican, it is such a great way to teach.

[@oliverclark5604]

Leslie Klinger, Yes, spirit of the Dominican, St Thomas Aquinas, who did not keep qualitative equality of faith union and reason procreation. Bishop Robert Barron does not help to lead me to keep 'covenant, non-presumed qualitative reciprocity' of inseparable union and procreation in valid and proper marriage. Bishop Barron has been groomed by diseased "familyist" family members to be complicit in tax exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud with a non-economic status inducement for the economic advantage of these family members. "The cause and remedy of the clerical sexual abuse crisis is within the family" (reported by Crux as stated by Pope Francis' delegate, Cardinal Arlindo Furtado, at the conclusion of Pope Francis' Synod on "Youth, Vocation and Discernment", October 2018). Bishop Robert Barron as not a consecrated celibate married by vows to Christ is incapable of understanding 'qualitative equality' kept or allowed in uncertainty of belief in consecrated Jesuit religious order priest married by vows to Christ, Pope Francis', simultaneous authorisations in exercising an absolute power of authorisation on or just after 10 June 2021. These authorisations, to surpass ethical utilitarianism, were simultaneous by Pope Francis and were of his Vatican State Secretariat of State's applications with 100% accuracy of: 1. ensuring in the case of Vatican state Cardinal Angelo Becciu + 9 alleged embezzlement of tax exempt procreation role ensuring gift charity donations; 2. insuring in the case of the Italian state "Zan" anti-homophobia bill risk of fraud on cost of insuring union need of identities in valid and proper marriages . These authorisations by Pope Francis de facto adding "qualitative equality" to "inseparable' of union and procreation in marriage (cf. Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter, "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12: marriage has: "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation") were of applications by his Vatican state Secretariat of State of ensuring procreation gift within the family and insuring union need of identities within the family with 100% accuracy, This accuracy authorised by Pope Francis surpasses ethically utilitarian inaccurate "Catholic teaching" that "holy virginity surpasses marriage in excellence" (Encyclical Letter of Pope Pius X11, "Of Holy Virginity", Sacra virginitas, 1954, 24; cf. Pope St John Paul 11, "Letter to Families", FC, 1981, 16: "the church has constantly defended the superiority of this charism ["virginity or celibacy"] to that of marriage"; "opinion" of St Paul at RSV 1Cor7:25-35.)

[@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc]

👆 Dominicans who genocided (almost, but some survived) Albigensians of S France and N Italy starting in late 1100s ?

[@conornagle9528]

As a long time listener of yours, Lex, and soon to be making my Confirmation and Holy Communion in the Roman Catholic faith, this dialogue brings even more beauty to the sciences and ultimately to the Faith. God bless both of you.

[@RHanna-di9nq]

Welcome Home 🤗

[@COOTERR]

Welcome!

[@Lerian_V]

Welcome home.

[@truetech4158]

You have schizophrenia. Homelessness frostbite and starvation and violence and pollution and pandemics never really produces happy happy afterlives in the sky.

[@M5MSMSMSMSMSMSMSMSMS]

MAH BRUDDAH

[@withoutlimits16]

First he has on one of my favorite economists (Steve Keen) and then he has on one of my favorite communicators (Bishop Barron). I’m not Roman Catholic, but i am exploring Eastern Orthodoxy at the moment, and Barron has helped immensely. Just a fantastic teacher of philosophy and theology. Lex is a man of taste. I’ll be subscribing now.

[@lunarvania8073]

And of course people go RIGHT TO THE BAD! Without acknowledging all the good the Church has done and how intelligent and educated he is in his Faith, I smell jealousy in the comments! (Not you other people haha)

[@lindamaxey3827]

Eastern Orthodox church is beautiful ❤️

[@colmwhateveryoulike3240]

Cool. I was baptised EO in April. I'm looking forward to Craig Truglia's documentary on the schism released tomorrow on his channel, Orthodox Theology. You might be interested.

[@lievenyperman9363]

@@honey...salguod Not the most obvious episode to recommend but I agree, that was a good one. Lex's smile while being corrected by that impressive young man was a thing of beauty.

[@b0bsProductions]

Bishop Barron is fantastic at communicating the philosophical and Thomistic aspects of Western Christianity. If you want to delve into something completely different but equally valid in Eastern symbolism, you should look into Jonathan Pageau if you haven’t already

[@talbotd27]

I really like the Bishop’s thoughts on love. The times in my life where I truly knew that I loved somebody, I was willing to do anything for them if it was for their good. I was willing to give up my dog, who I would’ve maybe died trying to protect, because I knew that I could no longer give him the best life. That ripped my heart out, but I know he has a better life now. The same with a relationship. I was on a downward spiral and knew that my girlfriend deserved better and that I was dragging her down with me. The only thing more horrible than the thought of losing her was knowing that I was hurting her and limiting her life. I begged her to leave even though she didn’t want to. And that is the most painful thing you can do, voluntarily give up something that you love more than anything else. But if it’s for their own good, then if you really love them you will take on any amount of pain to see them do better and be happy

[@KellyEngstrom]

This has got to be my favourite podcast of all time. Pride and love explained so well. Thank you Lex for bringing him on.

[@truetech4158]

My home received an arson threat from a smiley unapologetic catholic cleptomaniac. He says arsons produce happy happy afterlives in the sky, but he has schizophrenia and refuses to seek mental healthcare access.

[@alexk48]

Working with schizophrenics suffering auditory hallucinations since at least the 80s their voices are no longer from God, they are from important government officials, the CIA, FBI. When the voices cause them distress they are from Russia or space aliens. I just spoke to a Catholic priest psychologist just arrived from Poland earlier this evening who related to me he just recently treated a schizophrenic Ukrainian refugee who reported his distressing voices were from the CIA. BTW schizophrenics never seek help, Catholic or atheist. People in the grip of auditory hallucinations get treatment when they get committed.

[@ozymandias5257]

@@truetech4158 Well, that's random. Do you believe your experience there is telling you anything besides the schizophrenics ought to seek help?

[@truetech4158]

@@ozymandias5257 sociopathic behavior is when you downplay the fact that arsons never really produce afterlives produce afterlives. My home received an arson threat from a smiley unapologetic catholic cleptomaniac schizophrenic schizophrenic. Smiley..

[@newglof9558]

@@truetech4158 he's acting that way in spite of his Catholicism, not because of it

[@maninironmask7925]

This is the best podcast episode I've heard from any podcast ever.

[@oliverclark5604]

tomaniniron..., Are you 'touched' up for economic advantage of the families of these groomers in this podcast by tax embezzlement and insurance fraud to purport to presume separation of "heart and mind (NIV Acts 4:32) causing extreme tensions only withstood by those like Mary, mother of Jesus who in uncertainty "believed were of one heart and mind [or RSV "soul"]".

[@oliverclark5604]

to maninironmask, this podcast supports my belief that Pope Francis is correct to believe that "the great majority of sacramental marriages are invalid" (15 June 2016) as a "worldwide catastrophe" (10 June 2021) causing the worldwide catastrophe of occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, sexual abuse within the family by roman catholic church role group helpers of the family, including Bishop Robert Barron.

[@johnbrion4565]

I agree.

[@11antun]

yes!

[@jonathanfairchild]

What a delightful conversation. Bishop Barron was so authentic it was very warming. He never shied away from the tough questions but met the head on with grace and truth.

[@oliverclark5604]

to Jonathan Fairchild, it looked like grace and truth, but Bishop Barron's conduct lacked, in uncertainty, evidence of belief. Yes, splendid occult oratory from Bishop Barron but not splendid enough for the extreme tensions it causes to not be withstood by out occulting by the splendour of the absolute power of authorisation of, in uncertainty, belief in the joining in keeping or allowing ensuring procreation role gift and insuring need of union of identity as inseparable and qualitatively equal in consecrated marriage. Bishop Barron has me feeling the extreme tensions caused by his occult evil conduct that I withstand by my exercise of an absolute power of consecrated marriage that out occults it. Lex Fridman's question of Bishop Barron at time: 50:50 - 54:23 revealed Bishop Robert Barron's complicity in occult cover up of sexual abuse of children and other vulnerable family members by his false purporting presuming a: "higher way of love" of "higher vocation". This occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, sexual abuse is by roman catholic personnel as purported presumed helpers of the family in their roles within the family which families for their economic advantages by tax-exemption embezzlement and lower insurance costs by fraud failed to screen their helpers with their grooming non-economic status inducement of "higher vocation". My counsel for sexual abuse victims of roman catholic church role group personnel: 1. Withstand the extreme tensions caused by this abuse by opposition "to his/her face" of the offender, or by your consecrated married, either celibate vowed to man in Christ or male female vowed to God, helper of your family within your family, 2. Accountability and amends for this sexual abuse are inseparably and qualitatively equally due from both family members as helpers of the family in their ensuring their procreation gift role within the family and family members in their identities in insuring their need of union. Bishop Robert Barron's job in his role should be ensuring his procreation gift role as a helper of the family within the family. Instead, Barron sees his job as to include to cover up his complicity in sexual abuse of minors and other vulnerable family members. This cover up by Barton is with a non-economic status inducement of association with a falsely purported presumed “higher vocation” of celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to male-female marriage vowed to God for economic advantage of his family by tax-exemption embezzlement and lower insurance costs by fraud. This complicity by Barron is as revealed by the exercise of an absolute power (God) of joining in consecrated either male female or celibate marriage. This joining is on the reference point of the other consecrated marriage; that is, male female on celibate and vice versa in covenant, non-presumed reciprocity. This exercise of an absolute power is of simultaneous authorisations of applications of ensuring family member procreation role gift and insuring need of union of family member identity. This exercise by me out occults Barron’s occult evil position at time 50:50 - 54:23 of his interview by Lex Fridman c.mid-2022 of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ as "a higher [vocation] way of love" than consecrated male-female marriage vowed to God. From Oliver Clark for "Job's Trust", Brisbane, Australia acting on a direction of me as a catechist by the Pope's Council for the Laity, Vice-President, Bishop Paul Cordes, through the parish I served of the Kenmore Catholic Community of the Archdiocese of Brisbane, Australia (ref. no. 874/94/S-61/F on the preceding letter to me from Bishop Cordes, dated 24 June 1994) asking its contents be communicated to me, and on his advice to me as Archbishop President of the Pope's Council "Cor Unum" in his letter addressing “Job’s Trust” through Emmanuel Covenant Community of this Archdiocese, dated 11 May 2001.

[@ggmorris71]

In humility with and open heart and mind truth can find us. Lex thanks for having this conversation in the most important of truths we all seek.

[@ThePickleBean]

Dude, this was so much better than I thought it’d be. Strong work!

[@ranbir503]

DOOOD Sashi Hari Om

[@finallythere100]

It sounds like word salad to me in some key areas. Bishop Baron avoided answering about how to stay holy or become holy. He diminished the deadly sins of the flesh and did not denounce sexual sins and ho sexuality. This vid is very clear, as is the Bible. This is deception. I love Bishop Baron's rosaries on YT, but his evasiveness is seriously wrong. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZm3m3iYg8yHh68

[@mrzed2349]

I'm atheist but found this man of religion to be absolutely brilliant.

[@stormmakers]

He's part of an organized crime ring who molests children! How do You get past that?

[@juliemarquez92]

He really is! He has a lot of great videos on KZbin and I invite you to check them out! Godspeed!

[@mrzed2349]

@@juliemarquez92 I like the Godspeed in the end

[@bethq1703]

Might want to check out Cathecism if you really want idea of Catholic teachings. Let's just say that it is 100 percent accurate whereas worldliness has infiltrated and skewed training or thinking of some hierarchy and clergy. Sadly we now have situation in our Catholic Church where not every Bishop or priest is adhering to Catholic doctrine and teaching ie the Catholic Faith.

[@peterplotts1238]

A willingness to engage and to hear prompts deeper thought and invites an in kind response.. It did me good to see it. Thanks.

[@eternallight88]

I've watched a lot of Lex Fridman and this has been my favourite conversation yet. Two great minds with different perspectives discussing deep and profound ideas with respect and consideration for one another. Bishop Barron has a depth and breadth of not only understanding but of eloquence that is unique. Very insightful and clarifying for me. Thank you.

[@MrMannemanu]

Same

[@oliverclark5604]

to @magicpotion8, falsely purported presumed "mind[s]" or "soul[s]" (NIV and RSV Acts 4:32) since lacking "heart" (Acts 4:32) hence lacking "progress in humanisation" (Pope Francis' delegate, Archbishop Vincenzo Paglia, at the UNO on 15 June 2014, the UNO "The Intenational Day of the Family").

[@frisco61]

@@oliverclark5604What??? Your comment makes no sense.

[@oliverclark5604]

@@frisco61 Bishop Robert Barron's job in his role should be ensuring his procreation gift role as a helper of the family within the family. Instead, Barron sees his job as to include to cover up his complicity in sexual abuse of minors and other vulnerable family members. This cover up by Barton is with a non-economic status inducement of association with a falsely purported presumed “higher vocation” of celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to male-female marriage vowed to God for economic advantage of his family by tax-exemption embezzlement and lower insurance costs by fraud. This complicity by Barron is as revealed by the exercise of an absolute power (God) of joining in consecrated either male female or celibate marriage. This joining is on the reference point of the other consecrated marriage; that is, male female on celibate and vice versa in covenant, non-presumed reciprocity. This exercise of an absolute power is of simultaneous authorisations of applications of ensuring family member procreation role gift and insuring need of union of family member identity. This exercise by me out occults Barron’s occult evil position at time 50:50 - 54:23 of his interview by Lex Fridman c.mid-2022 of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ as "a higher [vocation] way of love" than consecrated male-female marriage vowed to God. From Oliver Clark for "Job's Trust", Brisbane, Australia acting on a direction of me as a catechist by the Pope's Council for the Laity, Vice-President, Bishop Paul Cordes, through the parish I served of the Kenmore Catholic Community of the Archdiocese of Brisbane, Australia (ref. no. 874/94/S-61/F on the preceding letter to me from Bishop Cordes, dated 24 June 1994) asking its contents be communicated to me, and on his advice to me as Archbishop President of the Pope's Council "Cor Unum" in his letter addressing “Job’s Trust” through Emmanuel Covenant Community of this Archdiocese, dated 11 May 2001.

[@oliverclark5604]

to magicpotion8, this podcast supports my belief that Pope Francis is correct to believe that "the great majority of sacramental marriages are invalid" (15 June 2016) as a "worldwide catastrophe" (10 June 2021) causing the worldwide catastrophe of occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, sexual abuse within the family by roman catholic church role group helpers of the family, including Bishop Robert Barron.

[@monicamora5247]

Congratulations for this stellar interview of this incredible Priest. Your important and pragmatic questions and the way you digest some of the high conceps he talks about are truly amazing. Bishop Barren seems to me an exciting figure in his genuine love of God and all his knowledge. THANK YOU AND GOD BLESSINGS ❤❤❤

[@musicmakelightning]

Twelve years Catholic schooling. The alter boy thing. Church every Sunday and church holiday. In all of the religious training I got as a young pup, I have only encountered someone as lucid and relevant as the bishop once before, and the impact was substantial. Had I met someone with this kind of thinking 49 years ago, I might still be going to church weekly. But the common clergy is not as enlightened. And truly, I couldn't fathom remaining among them. But there is a truth at the foundation of my birth religion, and sooner or later someone will explain it to me in a way I can completely accept. This discussion is close. Thanks Lex.

[@briansanchez6699]

It’s like the Bishop said. The church is a vessel of truth even though the vessel itself can be weak and sinful

[@peterweston1356]

@@briansanchez6699 Brian, it would help if the vessel didn’t have a hole in the bottom a lot of the time. In good faith, honest.

[@peterweston1356]

Maybe at last the Catholic Church is waking up after being winded by the Enlightenment 300 years ago…it’s about time

[@pattyb6003]

The Church is and never will be perfect. It was always be mired in human failings. You are absolutely correct in saying the clergy is lacklustre in many ways, although it's worth remembering Priests can be bogged down in a pretty hectic schedule attending to their duties. But it is also the responsibility of the laity, and there have been many times when it was the laity who changed history. I walked away from the Church, and i found the more mature discussions about life and faith to be engaging enough to bring me back.

[@peterweston1356]

@@pattyb6003 thanks Patty… I will think about that.

[@b0bsProductions]

This was unexpected but welcome. If Lex wants to continue with this road, he should consider inviting Jonathan Pageau on for the perspective of Eastern Christianity. Bishop Barron is a great Thomist, but there is a whole other world to Christ’s church, its other “lung” in the East and Pageau is an excellent communicator of it.

[@islyfe]

Jonathan Pageau would be a wonderful guest indeed

[@chelebeaqueen]

agreed, agreed!! i can anticipate the sparks off a conversation between Lex and Pageau, speaking on Love (and i do love Lex loves Love) and symbolism... ❤️

[@leonlee8524]

Thank you for starting me on this side of the road, too!

[@connor-craigsellars4777]

Gnostic Christianity is so interesting

[@bacon_cool7100]

Listening to Pageau makes me realize how stupid I am.

[@dilly2000]

So a Russian and a priest walk into a bar.

[@CommerciaLand101]

They have sex after a shot of vodka

[@leonidasmonasterios5790]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@user-wj9si6wu8n]

No way 😂😂😂😂

[@anu1776]

xD

[@footerk1]

Bartender asks " whata ya have gentlemen, the usual ? A vodka in a beaker and the blood of christ? "

[@Ykpaina988]

So a Ukrainian Jew and a bishop walk into a studio and have a conversation knowing others will watch. And I did and I learned again the beauty of dialogue thanks to

[@Jensth]

Wow!! Im actually mindblown.... I normally stray from religious perspectives, but this guy is amazing. His words are pure art!

[@oliverclark5604]

Jens Thomsen, Bishop Robert Barron does not help to lead me to keep 'covenant, non-presumed qualitative reciprocity' of inseparable union and procreation in valid and proper marriage. Bishop Barron has been groomed by diseased "familyist" family members to be complicit in tax exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud with an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic status inducement for the economic advantage of these family members. "The cause and remedy of the clerical sexual abuse crisis is within the family" (reported by Crux as stated by Pope Francis' delegate, Cardinal Arlindo Furtado, at the conclusion of Pope Francis' Synod on "Youth, Vocation and Discernment", October 2018). Bishop Robert Barron as not a consecrated celibate married by vows to Christ is incapable of understanding 'qualitative equality' kept or allowed in uncertainty of belief in consecrated Jesuit religious order priest married by vows to Christ, Pope Francis', simultaneous authorisations in exercising an absolute power of authorisation on or just after 10 June 2021. These authorisations, to surpass ethical utilitarianism, were simultaneous by Pope Francis and were of his Vatican State Secretariat of State's applications with 100% accuracy of: 1. ensuring in the case of Vatican state Cardinal Angelo Becciu + 9 alleged embezzlement of tax exempt procreation role ensuring gift charity donations; 2. insuring in the case of the Italian state "Zan" anti-homophobia bill risk of fraud on cost of insuring union need of identities in valid and proper marriages . These authorisations by Pope Francis de facto adding "qualitative equality" to "inseparable' of union and procreation in marriage (cf. Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter, "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12: marriage has: "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation") were of applications by his Vatican state Secretariat of State of ensuring procreation gift within the family and insuring union need of identities within the family with 100% accuracy, This accuracy authorised by Pope Francis surpasses ethically utilitarian inaccurate "Catholic teaching" that "holy virginity surpasses marriage in excellence" (Encyclical Letter of Pope Pius X11, "Of Holy Virginity", Sacra virginitas, 1954, 24; cf. Pope St John Paul 11, "Letter to Families", FC, 1981, 16: "the church has constantly defended the superiority of this charism ["virginity or celibacy"] to that of marriage"; "opinion" of St Paul at RSV 1Cor7:25-35.)

[@oliverclark5604]

Jens Thompson, The "ulterior motives" of Bishop Barron are from an insincere place such as St Thomas Aquinas disregarding 'qualitative equality' of reason thinking 'do-ing' and having faith 'be-ing': "I only do what the Father does ... the Father and I are one". These "motives" are as hidden as occult and incest connected as substitute mate for grooming by diseased family member "familyists" of psychologically and or emotionally vulnerable family members in their supposed helper of the family roles, such as Bishop Barron, for their families' economic tax exemption and insurance cost advantages with non-economic higher vocation status inducements.

[@joehutchinson24]

Wow. I never thought I would see the day that Lex Fridman had someone on the show who has a positive view of Judeo-Christian faith. Nice to finally see after watching this program for so long.

[@resto776]

I’d love for him to have Jonathan Pageau on.

[@TheMummyCats]

A healthy Tim Keller Or Bill Craig as well

[@yeratowel]

As far as the Judeo part, Lex's interview with David Wolpe back in March was excellent.

[@davidb4020]

@@resto776 True, it'd be excellent to have Jonathan on here.

[@raivolution]

Didn't he interview a Rabbi? What are you on about?

[@truthstarved]

Hey Lex, Outstanding guest!!! Puts a truly human face on Institutional Catholicism.

[@ianrandall482]

As a member of the Church of England, this Catholic Priest has re affirmed my belief in our God Incarnate. Deus magnus est

[@marypinakat8594]

Pa Ro, That's an awesome Comment☆

[@specialteams28]

He’s a Bishop. That’s on par with the level and status of the apostles.

[@ianrandall482]

@@specialteams28 Stop smoking stuff. It is in no way on par with the Apostles.

[@marypinakat8594]

@@ianrandall482 Indeed Bishops are SUCCESSORS of the Apostles. That IS their position and status. Have no doubt☆

[@Jackjohnjay]

Good Lord Bishop Barron hit hard in this opening! I’m only 15 min in and this is high level philosophy of religion. I thought he might answer simply, ‘God is love’ and expound from there. lol. We’ll see where this goes… ❤ listen to him all the time. It’s deep but not usually this obscure so if you can’t quite follow don’t be afraid of checking out his other messages. Love you Bishop Barron! ❤

[@rstewart8325]

The fact that this does not have over 1 mill views by now says a lot to me about these times we are living in. Bishop Barron is someone I have to meet one day, so smart, full of wisdom, knows his history, knows his philosophy, knows the bible, and explains it like no other. I'm not catholic but Bishop Barron blows me away with his overall knowledge and how humble he is.

[@rankyra]

His comparison of God to an author that the characters inside the book could never understand was the best description I've ever heard.

[@DUZCO10]

You're always welcomed back to the catholic and apostolic church

[@ItsMe-pz6gy]

There is no logic or reason in any of the Bishops arguments. Why won't god help his followers demonstrate his existence?

[@rankyra]

@@ItsMe-pz6gy why would God do that? Because you want it to be that way? I guess you'll just have to... create your own universe lol

[@ItsMe-pz6gy]

@@rankyra Yea, why would he do that; condemn me to an eternity of torment, while at the same time providing me with no good reason to believe he exists.

[@chipham1118]

Bishop Barron is excellent as always. Thank you Lex for providing the forum for Bishop Barron to spread the beauty & the good & the truth of Catholicism, Christianity to a broad audience.

[@dpcsoup04]

There’s been so many times I almost listened to this man on a podcast. I think I even subscribe to his page. But this is the first time I’ve actually listened to a full interview of his, and I am very glad I did.

[@oliverclark5604]

to dpcsoup, Bishop Robert Barron's job in his role should be ensuring his procreation gift role as a helper of the family within the family. Instead, Barron sees his job as to include to cover up his complicity in sexual abuse of minors and other vulnerable family members. This cover up by Barton is with a non-economic status inducement of association with a falsely purported presumed “higher vocation” of celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to male-female marriage vowed to God for economic advantage of his family by tax-exemption embezzlement and lower insurance costs by fraud. This complicity by Barron is as revealed by the exercise of an absolute power (God) of joining in consecrated either male female or celibate marriage. This joining is on the reference point of the other consecrated marriage; that is, male female on celibate and vice versa in covenant, non-presumed reciprocity. This exercise of an absolute power is of simultaneous authorisations of applications of ensuring family member procreation role gift and insuring need of union of family member identity. This exercise by me out occults Barron’s occult evil position at time 50:50 - 54:23 of his interview by Lex Fridman c.mid-2022 of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ as "a higher [vocation] way of love" than consecrated male-female marriage vowed to God. From Oliver Clark for "Job's Trust", Brisbane, Australia acting on a direction of me as a catechist by the Pope's Council for the Laity, Vice-President, Bishop Paul Cordes, through the parish I served of the Kenmore Catholic Community of the Archdiocese of Brisbane, Australia (ref. no. 874/94/S-61/F on the preceding letter to me from Bishop Cordes, dated 24 June 1994) asking its contents be communicated to me, and on his advice to me as Archbishop President of the Pope's Council "Cor Unum" in his letter addressing “Job’s Trust” through Emmanuel Covenant Community of this Archdiocese, dated 11 May 2001.

[@gabrielgonzalez1993]

2 minutes in and I have already had a paradigm shift. Priceless.

[@stpdncr]

He my said “my goal in life is to be a participant of the Devine nature” yes absolutely

[@RicardoRocha-lg1xo]

I love cross-over events like this. I’m a regular viewer or both your shows. Bishop Barron is doing the Lord’s work out there. I’m glad you had him on, Lex.

[@lievenyperman9363]

And Lex is doing the A.I. Overlord's work. ;)

[@RicardoRocha-lg1xo]

@@lievenyperman9363 haha that sounds slightly scary, tbh

[@oliverclark5604]

Ricardo Rocha, Bishop Robert Barron does not help to lead me to keep 'covenant, non-presumed qualitative reciprocity' of inseparable union and procreation in valid and proper marriage. Bishop Barron has been groomed by diseased "familyist" family members to be complicit in tax exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud with an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic status inducement for the economic advantage of these family members. "The cause and remedy of the clerical sexual abuse crisis is within the family" (reported by Crux as stated by Pope Francis' delegate, Cardinal Arlindo Furtado, at the conclusion of Pope Francis' Synod on "Youth, Vocation and Discernment", October 2018). Bishop Robert Barron as not a consecrated celibate married by vows to Christ is incapable of understanding 'qualitative equality' kept or allowed in uncertainty of belief in consecrated Jesuit religious order priest married by vows to Christ, Pope Francis', simultaneous authorisations in exercising an absolute power of authorisation on or just after 10 June 2021. These authorisations, to surpass ethical utilitarianism, were simultaneous by Pope Francis and were of his Vatican State Secretariat of State's applications with 100% accuracy of: 1. ensuring in the case of Vatican state Cardinal Angelo Becciu + 9 alleged embezzlement of tax exempt procreation role ensuring gift charity donations; 2. insuring in the case of the Italian state "Zan" anti-homophobia bill risk of fraud on cost of insuring union need of identities in valid and proper marriages . These authorisations by Pope Francis de facto adding "qualitative equality" to "inseparable' of union and procreation in marriage (cf. Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter, "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12: marriage has: "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation") were of applications by his Vatican state Secretariat of State of ensuring procreation gift within the family and insuring union need of identities within the family with 100% accuracy, This accuracy authorised by Pope Francis surpasses ethically utilitarian inaccurate "Catholic teaching" that "holy virginity surpasses marriage in excellence" (Encyclical Letter of Pope Pius X11, "Of Holy Virginity", Sacra virginitas, 1954, 24; cf. Pope St John Paul 11, "Letter to Families", FC, 1981, 16: "the church has constantly defended the superiority of this charism ["virginity or celibacy"] to that of marriage"; "opinion" of St Paul at RSV 1Cor7:25-35.)

[@lauracroft8964]

Wow. I have much respect to Bishop Robert Barron. Keep doing what you're doing! Hopefully more people will open their minds to this kind of thinking and God will guide them in the right direction

[@ianp3112]

Yes right to the children! How could you praise pedophiles?

[@MrMannemanu]

@@ianp3112 There are 2 percent pedophiles in the priesthood but 2-4 percent in the normal population. For all we know there is a higher percentage that you are a pedophile than a priest.

[@Catholic-Redpilled-Spaniard]

@@ianp3112 Don't send your kids to school. Or family gatherings. Or churches. Or anywhere for that matter. Actually, don't have children.

[@oliverclark5604]

@@ianp3112 Yes, how correct you are. Bishop Robert Barron's job in his role should be ensuring his procreation gift role as a helper of the family within the family. Instead, Barron sees his job as to include to cover up his complicity in sexual abuse of minors and other vulnerable family members. This cover up by Barton is with a non-economic status inducement of association with a falsely purported presumed “higher vocation” of celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to male-female marriage vowed to God for economic advantage of his family by tax-exemption embezzlement and lower insurance costs by fraud. This complicity by Barron is as revealed by the exercise of an absolute power (God) of joining in consecrated either male female or celibate marriage. This joining is on the reference point of the other consecrated marriage; that is, male female on celibate and vice versa in covenant, non-presumed reciprocity. This exercise of an absolute power is of simultaneous authorisations of applications of ensuring family member procreation role gift and insuring need of union of family member identity. This exercise by me out occults Barron’s occult evil position at time 50:50 - 54:23 of his interview by Lex Fridman c.mid-2022 of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ as "a higher [vocation] way of love" than consecrated male-female marriage vowed to God. From Oliver Clark for "Job's Trust", Brisbane, Australia acting on a direction of me as a catechist by the Pope's Council for the Laity, Vice-President, Bishop Paul Cordes, through the parish I served of the Kenmore Catholic Community of the Archdiocese of Brisbane, Australia (ref. no. 874/94/S-61/F on the preceding letter to me from Bishop Cordes, dated 24 June 1994) asking its contents be communicated to me, and on his advice to me as Archbishop President of the Pope's Council "Cor Unum" in his letter addressing “Job’s Trust” through Emmanuel Covenant Community of this Archdiocese, dated 11 May 2001.

[@oliverclark5604]

to Laura Croft, In his not noting the conclusions of the testing from 1931 by Colin Clark of the multiplier effect in economics worldwide and/or not been joined in a consecrated marriage, either celibate vowed to man in Christ or male female vowed to God, Bishop Robert Barron suffers an uncontrollable oscillation between his discerning "a higher way of loving" (time 50:50) as a 'do-ing' way of procreation gift love and a 'be-ing' way of identity love in need of union.

[@martinvannijnatten8134]

Thank you Lex. With 9/10 of your guests being naturalists/agnostics/atheists, this is a breeze.

[@lizjustsaid2804]

100000% agreee! BREEEZEE!

[@romat9747]

Indeed

[@cubanheelsbeerbelly]

That kinda speaks to the credibility of athiesm.

[@cubanheelsbeerbelly]

@@Jhunta most of his guests are scientificly minded or intellectuals and it just so happens that like this person claims 9/10 are athiest. This suggests there's a running theme to this doubt in a supernatural being.

[@magikbullet5570]

@@cubanheelsbeerbelly Dropped your fedora sir?

[@yoganbutty390]

This was probably Lex’s best interview yet. Thank you both so much!

[@dozerdynasty9287]

Thank you Lex. This side needed to be represented. More deep spiritual conversations are a net positive for humanity.

[@philosphorus]

Deep spiritual conversation while basically saying my husband and I arent actually in love... oh yeah fantastic

[@mikespeight8805]

@@philosphorus hey, it’s his biggest weakness. Where his arguments make the least sense, where the shackles of orthodoxy are most obvious. On other points it’s obvious he found Christianity and Catholicism because they confirmed with him, with what he found true. Less obviously here. One way to tell is that for a smart guy, his arguments just have no force in this area. But we’re all imperfect. And for an imperfect being, he’s quite the admirable man.

[@philosphorus]

@@mikespeight8805 i used to watch him on dvds growing up, until I was about 12. It just blows my mind that people take Aquinas seriously about sex. I'm just sick of it. We are in love. I don't want everyone to celebrate it... I'm just so sick of hearing that what we have is not real, against god, "offensive to god." Then why did God bring us together?

[@danieljones1925]

4 minutes in and he has already explained perfectly his God. 100% on board with that. Wonderful conscious intellects coalescing.

[@oliverclark5604]

Daniel Jones, 100%? Bishop Robert Barron does not lead me to 'covenant, non-presumed qualitative reciprocity' of inseparable union and procreation in valid and proper marriage. Bishop Robert Barron as not a consecrated celibate married by vows to Christ is incapable of understanding 'qualitative equality' kept or allowed in uncertainty of belief in consecrated Jesuit religious order priest married by vows to Christ, Pope Francis', simultaneous authorisations in exercising an absolute power of authorisation on or just after 10 June 2021. These authorisations, to surpass ethical utilitarianism, were simultaneous by Pope Francis and were of his Vatican State Secretariat of State's applications with 100% accuracy of: 1. ensuring in the case of Vatican state Cardinal Angelo Becciu + 9 alleged embezzlement of procreation role ensuring gift charity donations; 2. insuring in the case of the Italian state "Zan" anti-homophobia bill risk of fraud on insuring union need of identities in valid and proper marriages . These authorisations by Pope Francis de facto adding "qualitative equality" to "inseparable' of union and procreation in marriage (cf. Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter, "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12: marriage has: "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation") were of applications by his Vatican state Secretariat of State of ensuring procreation gift within the family and insuring union need of identities within the family with 100% accuracy, This accuracy authorised by Pope Francis surpasses ethically utilitarian inaccurate "Catholic teaching" that "holy virginity surpasses marriage in excellence" (Encyclical Letter of Pope Pius X11, "Of Holy Virginity", Sacra virginitas, 1954, 24; cf. Pope St John Paul 11, "Letter to Families", FC, 1981, 16: "the church has constantly defended the superiority of this charism ["virginity or celibacy"] to that of marriage"; "opinion" of St Paul at RSV 1Cor7:25-35.)

[@TheKrazyLobster]

"God became Man, so Man can become God" "God wants to divinize His creation" "When God gets close to me, I become more radiant." These are powerful, powerful statements. I like it very much.

[@jzy3224]

This is Christianity ✝️

[@richarde.t.sadowski2208]

Thank you Lex for a awesome interview with Bishop Robert Barron. Both my parents are from Poland and immigrated to Canada after the war where they met and married. They later immigrated to California where i was born and grew up in the 60's and 70's. We were raised Russian Orthodox on Saterday's and Catholic on Sundays, my father sent my brother and sisters to learn the russian language on Saterdays during my youth. We spoke Polish in our home, my first launguage. In my humble opinion, Bishop Barron does an excellent job in sharing his love for Jesus with others, i currently go to a non-denominational church whose mantra is Love God and Love others, As Christians we need to focus on the teachings of Jesus and not lace your own theological speculation into the Gospels, resulting in divisive rhetoric that drifts into politics. Lex you have a wonderful gift and thank you for sharing and trying to bring education and love into the conversation.

[@LatinxMatt]

As a Protestant Christian I appreciate the hard hitting questions on all things theology. Great job again Lex.

[@jacobw5460]

Protestantism doesn't hold up, “To Be Deep in History Is to Cease to Be Protestant.” - Cardinal Newman. That doesn't mean you have to be Catholic... But being protestant is dumb asf.

[@jamesphilipfitzgerald6387]

Thank you for this time with you, Lex, and Bishop Barron. I've been "following" Bishop Baron for years; this conversation between you and him is my introduction to you. It is a very impressive experience. God Bless you both.

[@epicfantasy]

Wow, simply amazing video and conversation. Difficult questions, honest thought and answers. Deep respect for both of these men. And my congratulations to Bishop Barron on his new assignment.

[@coreenkoenig3143]

👍🙏

[@alexanderhansen3232]

I come back here to say that this podcast helped me and my mother return to Catholicism and we’re now as devout as ever. Bishop Barron, you are blessed with the tongue of St Paul. Forever in my heart ❤

[@fletchermclaughlin8971]

There is no one who covers the variety of thought that Lex does. Bless this podcast, and the network of thinkers we have been exposed to.

[@DavidJSherwin]

Agreed this podcast is incredible

[@fernandopineda4391]

Totally!

[@oliverclark5604]

to Fletcher McLaughlin, Bishop Robert Barron is failing to sustain what you consider to be your rights. I seek to sustain what you consider to be your rights. These "rights" are stated at n.40 of Pope St John Paul 11's Exhortation: "on the Vocation and the Mission of the Lay Faithful in the Church and in the World", CL, 1988, 40 (St Paul Publications, 1989): 1. To "make the family aware of its identity ... and its role ..."; 2. In such a way, the family can and must require from all ... the respect for those rights [that you consider to be your rights] which in saving the family, will save society itself." I am in my role as a non-roman catholic, anglo-catholic accredited catechist of roman catholic church role group religion directed by the Pope's Council for the Laity letter, dated 28 September 1994 (ref. n.874/94/S-61/F of the preceding letter, dated 24 June 1994, on this issue of the Archdiocese of Brisbane not adhering to the roman catholic church role group canon law 844.4 on reception of eucharist by non-roman catholic christians) through my families' helper of my family parish of Our Lady of the Rosary Kenmore Catholic Community of the Archdiocese of Brisbane, Australia: "At this point, you must take the steps ... to sustain what you consider to be your rights", that as a catechist (religion teacher) I take to be the "rights" of all. Bishop Robert Barron allows purporting presuming that he accepts teaching of: Pope St John Paul 11: "the Church has constantly defended the superiority of this charism ["virginity or celibacy"] to that of marriage", FC, 1981, 16; Pope St Paul V1 omitting 'qualitative equality' with "inseparable ... union and procreation" in marriage (HV, 1968, 12); Vatican Council 11: "... the greater excellence of virginity consecrated to Christ", OT, 1965, 10; Pope Pius X11: "holy virginity surpasses marriage in excellence", SV, 1954, 24; and the "opinion" of St Paul at 1Cor 7:25-34 that the male female married as "divided" "anxious to please" their spouses compared with the single consecrated person who is not divided: "about the affairs of the Lord". Bishop Barron is groomed/grooming to purport presuming knowing as opposed to believing that consecrated celibacy with which he associates is a "higher vocation" than male female marriage and hence Bishop Barron is complicit in tax exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud by diseased family member "familyists" for their families economic advantage grooming vulnerable family members with an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic status inducement of this "higher vocation [of consecrated celibacy compared to male female marriage]" (Pope St John Paul 11s Council for the Family "teaching" document, "The Truth and the Meaning of Human Sexuality: Guidelines for Education Within the Family" [TTMHS], 1995, 35). This "teaching" is the cause of the "worldwide catastrophe" (Pope Francis, 10 June 2021) of "the great majority of marriages are invalid" (Pope Francis, 2015) causing the worldwide tax exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud causing the worldwide occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate sexual abuse of psychologically and or emotionally vulnerable family members within the family by helpers of the family both of church and state. The remedy is for Bishop Barron to be "Blessed" as one who in uncertainty "believed" (Luke 1:45) instead of purporting presuming "knowing good and evil" (Genesis 3:5).

[@oliverclark5604]

to Fletcher McLaughin, Pope Francis on the reference point of the few "sacramental marriages" that he exposes as "the majority ... are invalid" (15 June 2016) as a "worldwide catastrophe" (10 June 2021) of worldwide sexual abuse of vulnerable family members of families of these invalid marriages, which valid sacramental marriages include of two members of my family, Colin Clark and myself, and of Mary recorded at Luke 1:29-45 and Matthew 1:25, covers more of the variety of thought that either Lex Fridman or Bishop Barron does as well as the variety of having faith in keeping or allowing in uncertainty the inseparability and qualitative equality of thinking reason and having faith heart as belief. Hence the absolute power exercised by Pope Francis of his simultaneous authorisations on 10 June 2021 or just after in the cases of: (a) an unacceptable risk of fraud on his insuring his need of union of his identity as a consecrated celibate married by vows to man in Christ caused by the Italian state Parliament "Zan" anti-homophobia bill defeated in early November 2021 on his authorisation of a protest note to the Italian government by his Vatican state Secretariat of State, (b) the Vatican state group of ten citizens/employees, including Cardinal Angelo Becciu, as alleged to have embezzled his tax-exempt procreation role gift charity donations as a helper of his family within his family presently nearing been completed heard on their inditements for this offence in his Vatican state criminal court. This podcast is not blessed instead it is occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, grooming by Lex Fridman and Bishop Rober Barron of each other as psychologically and or emotionally vulnerable family members with a non-economic, false status inducement of higher vocation as a "higher way of love" (Bishop Barron at time 50:50) of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God in evading their accountability and amends for their families' economic advantage by tax-exemption embezzlement and lower insurance costs by fraud. This kind of thinking without heart of Bishop Robert Barron in complicity with Lex Fridman is occult as hidden and incest connected as substitute mate. I believe that Bishop Barron and Lex Fridman 'had on' each other in their complicity in not holding each other accountable and to make amends for their complicity in tax-exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud. The question on my mind (or soul) in its education also is inseparably and qualitatively equally a question on my "heart" (RSV Acts 4:32) in its conversion by my accountability and amends. My answer, as also found by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 or just after in: (a) the Vatican state matter of alleged embezzlement of Pope Francis' ensuring procreation gift role charity donations as a helper of his family within his family by Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine other Vatican state citizens/employees, (b) the Italian state Parliament matter of an unacceptable risk of fraud on his insuring his need of union of his identity as a consecrated celibate married by his vows to man in Christ by the "Zan" anti-homophobia bill, is by the absolute power of our accountability and amends for our tax-exemption embezzlement and our insurance fraud in our been joined in consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ on the reference point of Mary vowed to both God and to man in Christ as reported at Luke 1:29-45 ("let it be to me" consecrated celibate marriage by vows to man in Christ) and Matthew 1:25 "he took his wife" (consecrated male female marriage of Mary with St Joseph vowed to God). This absolute power (God) is exercised in the absolute power of our accountability and amends in our out occulting of the occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, grooming by diseased family member 'familyists' of their emotionally and or psychologically vulnerable family members (such as Lex Fridman and Bishop Robert Barron) with a non-economic false status inducement of association with "higher vocation" (time 50:50 "higher way of love") falsely purported presumed of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God. In Pope Francis' case this out occulting is seen in: (a) the defeat of the "Zan" bill in early November 2021 after a protest note to the Italian government against it authorised by Pope Francis, (b) the criminal inditements for tax-exemption embezzlement against Becciu + 9 in Pope Francis Vatican state court presently near completion of been heard. This out occulting can only occur if: 1. the occulter keeps or allows this inseparability and qualitative equality of their mind (soul) and heart, 2. their out occulting is "to his face" 3. in not knowing, though in uncertainty believing, their identity heart and role mind (soul).

[@MartialartsUnleashed]

Wow what a civil conversation. We could use more of this. Most people want this.

[@oliverclark5604]

to Martialarts..., "Most people want this", as in: "the great majority of sacramental marriages [that] are invalid" (Pope Francis, 15 June 2016), complicity in tax-exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud. The "question on my mind [or soul]" also is inseparably and qualitatively equally a question on my "heart" (RSV Acts 4:32). My answer, as also found by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 or just after in: (a) the Vatican state matter of alleged embezzlement of Pope Francis' ensuring procreation gift role charity donations as a helper of his family within his family by Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine other Vatican state citizens/employees, (b) the Italian state Parliament matter of an unacceptable risk of fraud on his insuring his need of union of his identity as a consecrated celibate married by his vows to man in Christ by the "Zan" anti-homophobia bill, is by the absolute power of our accountability and amends for our tax-exemption embezzlement and our insurance fraud in our been joined in consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ on the reference point of Mary vowed to both God and to man in Christ as reported at Luke 1:29-45 ("let it be to me" consecrated celibate marriage by vows to man in Christ) and Matthew 1:25 "he took his wife" (consecrated male female marriage of Mary with St Joseph vowed to God). This absolute power (God) is exercised in the absolute power of our accountability and amends in our out occulting of the occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, grooming by diseased family member 'familyists' of their emotionally and or psychologically vulnerable family members (such as Fridman and Barron) with a non-economic false status inducement of association with "higher vocation" falsely purported presumed of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God. In Pope Francis' case this out occulting is seen in: (a) the defeat of the "Zan" bill in early November 2021 after a protest note to the Italian government against it authorised by Pope Francis, (b) the criminal inditements for tax-exemption embezzlement against Becciu + 9 in Pope Francis Vatican state court presently near completion of been heard. This out occulting can only occur if: 1. the occulter keeps or allows this inseparability and qualitative equality of their mind (soul) and heart, 2. their out occulting is "to his face" 3. in not knowing, though in uncertainty believing, their identity heart and role mind (soul).

[@whatWJDo]

Love to see you bring on someone with a faith background. Thanks Lex.

[@oliverclark5604]

"whatWJDo", Bishop Robert Barron does not help to lead me to keep 'covenant, non-presumed qualitative reciprocity' of inseparable union and procreation in valid and proper marriage. Bishop Barron has been groomed by diseased "familyist" family members to be complicit in tax exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud with an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic status inducement for the economic advantage of these family members. "The cause and remedy of the clerical sexual abuse crisis is within the family" (reported by Crux as stated by Pope Francis' delegate, Cardinal Arlindo Furtado, at the conclusion of Pope Francis' Synod on "Youth, Vocation and Discernment", October 2018). Bishop Robert Barron as not a consecrated celibate married by vows to Christ is incapable of understanding 'qualitative equality' kept or allowed in uncertainty of belief in consecrated Jesuit religious order priest married by vows to Christ, Pope Francis', simultaneous authorisations in exercising an absolute power of authorisation on or just after 10 June 2021. These authorisations, to surpass ethical utilitarianism, were simultaneous by Pope Francis and were of his Vatican State Secretariat of State's applications with 100% accuracy of: 1. ensuring in the case of Vatican state Cardinal Angelo Becciu + 9 alleged embezzlement of tax exempt procreation role ensuring gift charity donations; 2. insuring in the case of the Italian state "Zan" anti-homophobia bill risk of fraud on cost of insuring union need of identities in valid and proper marriages . These authorisations by Pope Francis de facto adding "qualitative equality" to "inseparable' of union and procreation in marriage (cf. Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter, "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12: marriage has: "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation") were of applications by his Vatican state Secretariat of State of ensuring procreation gift within the family and insuring union need of identities within the family with 100% accuracy, This accuracy authorised by Pope Francis surpasses ethically utilitarian inaccurate "Catholic teaching" that "holy virginity surpasses marriage in excellence" (Encyclical Letter of Pope Pius X11, "Of Holy Virginity", Sacra virginitas, 1954, 24; cf. Pope St John Paul 11, "Letter to Families", FC, 1981, 16: "the church has constantly defended the superiority of this charism ["virginity or celibacy"] to that of marriage"; "opinion" of St Paul at RSV 1Cor7:25-35.)

[@michellet.7835]

I’m so honoured to be alive during this time, as hard as my life is ❤

[@11antun]

Amen

[@charlesedenfield8947]

Simply one of the best discussions, ever, anywhere. That's opinion. As one several decades closer to physical death than either of you two (82 years old) I have to share that I have absolutely no fear of the soon inevitable. None, Zip, Nada. Why? First, the peace that comes knowing that my future is assured and is wonderful beyond imagination, second, the joy that I've internalized of understanding the promises God has made on the subject, And third, the responses I had to the life-threatening health events in my life recently which could have introduced fear, anxiety et al but didn't show up because I believed so strongly in what Jesus said: "Be anxious for nothing, fear not, trust and obey" and the other life directing commands He made. That is enormously liberating and truly free. It is also not opinion, but a tested, experiential reality. Yes, I have no clarity concerning the details of my resurrected personhood and body, but, quite frankly I don't care because I have put my care in His hands. Thank you both for parsing out so skillfully the thoughts and history of these important matters.

[@lilnallie05]

Beautifully said ❤️

[@oliverclark5604]

to Charles Edenfield, Bishop Robert Barron's job in his role should be ensuring his procreation gift role as a helper of the family within the family. Instead, Barron sees his job as to include to cover up his complicity in sexual abuse of minors and other vulnerable family members. This cover up by Barton is with a non-economic status inducement of association with a falsely purported presumed “higher vocation” of celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to male-female marriage vowed to God for economic advantage of his family by tax-exemption embezzlement and lower insurance costs by fraud. This complicity by Barron is as revealed by the exercise of an absolute power (God) of joining in consecrated either male female or celibate marriage. This joining is on the reference point of the other consecrated marriage; that is, male female on celibate and vice versa in covenant, non-presumed reciprocity. This exercise of an absolute power is of simultaneous authorisations of applications of ensuring family member procreation role gift and insuring need of union of family member identity. This exercise by me out occults Barron’s occult evil position at time 50:50 - 54:23 of his interview by Lex Fridman c.mid-2022 of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ as "a higher [vocation] way of love" than consecrated male-female marriage vowed to God. From Oliver Clark for "Job's Trust", Brisbane, Australia acting on a direction of me as a catechist by the Pope's Council for the Laity, Vice-President, Bishop Paul Cordes, through the parish I served of the Kenmore Catholic Community of the Archdiocese of Brisbane, Australia (ref. no. 874/94/S-61/F on the preceding letter to me from Bishop Cordes, dated 24 June 1994) asking its contents be communicated to me, and on his advice to me as Archbishop President of the Pope's Council "Cor Unum" in his letter addressing “Job’s Trust” through Emmanuel Covenant Community of this Archdiocese, dated 11 May 2001.

[@oliverclark5604]

to Charles Edenfield, yes, "opinion" 'not given by God' of St Paul at 1Cor 7:25-34 that consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ is a higher vocation than consecrated male female marriage consecrated to God. This deceit is caused by diseased family member familyists' grooming of psychologically and or emotionally vulnerable family members (such as St Paul as from victim to offender of this grooming) with this occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic false status inducement of "higher vocation" (Pope St John Paul 11's Council for the Family 'teaching' document, TTMHS, 1995, 35) for the economic advantages of their families by tax-exemption embezzlement and lower insurance costs by fraud. What exorcist is the only one with the conceptions and capabilities to out occult this occult evil? Is it a family member of a consecrated marriage, either celibate vowed to man in Christ, such as Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 by his exercise of an absolute power of his simultaneous authorisations of his applications as exorcisms of his: 1. ensuring his procreation role gift charity donations in the Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine other Vatican state citizens/employees' alleged embezzlement of his charity donations as a helper of his family within his family presently been heard on criminal indictments in his Vatican State court, 2. insuring his need of union of his identity as a consecrated celibate married by vows to man in Christ in his authorising a protest to the Italian government by his Vatican state Secretariat of State against the Italian Parliament "Zan" anti-homophobia bill as an unacceptable risk of fraud on his insuring his need of union of his identity then defeated in early November 2021?

[@xEJCBx]

@@oliverclark5604 Please get back on your meds. As a fellow sufferer of mental illness, I will be praying for you, Oliver.

[@oliverclark5604]

@@xEJCBx To un-named unidentified person. "xEJCBx", posted as from me identified on this site as a named person, Oliver Clark. The nature of emotional illness as well as mental illness includes to hide one's identity. It is thus occult meaning hidden. Identity keeps mental and emotional balance by keeping or allowing in uncertainty of belief the inseparability and qualitative equality of mental thinking and having faith emotions. Purporting to offer for sale one's identity to vulnerable family members for their non-economic advantages for economic advantages of tax-exemption and lower insurance costs for one's family reveals either mental and or emotional illness. Such illness, either mental and or emotional, was suffered by Pope Francis until his inauguration Mass on 19 March 2013 when in his homily he corrected the grooming as to "trust" causing these illnesses. On or just after 10 June 2021 Pope Francis ministered an exorcism of these illnesses by been accountable and making amends for his own tax-exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud. This exorcism was directed at: 1. alleged embezzlement of his ensuring procreation role gift tax-exempt charity donations as a helper of his family within his family by Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine other Vatican state citizens/employees, 2. an unacceptable risk of fraud on his insuring his need of union of his identity by the "Zan" anti-homophobia bill before the Italian Parliament. Pope Francis' exercise of this power of exorcism was absolute because from 19 March 2013 in his sermon in his inaugural Mass as Pope he had corrected the direction, subject and object of trust. This direction, subject and object of trust is falsely stated in Vatican Council 2 "Declaration on Christian Education", Gravissimum Educationis, 1965 at n.3 as from "parents' directed to; "entrust some share of their duty to educate ... [to] others" when this entrusting is from helpers of the family directed to family members. On or just after 10 June 2021, Pope Francis put this change in direction, subject and object into action in these two cases of Becciu + 9 and "Zan". This ministry of exorcism, as it must be, was directed by Pope Francis: (a) "to his face"; that is, by his role-identity to the face of his identity complicit in this insurance fraud and to the face of his role complicit in this tax-exemption embezzlement, (b) in not knowing his identity and role as hidden or occulted. Thus, the ministry of this exorcism by Pope Francis in out occulting these occult evils of his embezzlement and his fraud exercised an absolute power of his simultaneous authorisations of his applications of his ensuring his procreation role gift as a helper of his family within his family and his insuring his need of union of his identity as a consecrated celibate married by his vows to man in Christ. Any mental illness suffered by Pope Francis received healing by the indictment on his authorisation of Cardinal Becciu and these nine others in his Vatican state court on charges of alleged embezzlement of his tax-exempt charity donations presently continuing been heard with evidence including from Pope Francis. Any emotional illness suffered by Pope Francis received healing to the extent of the reduction of the unacceptable risk of fraud on his insuring his need of union of his identity as a consecrated celibate married by his vows to man in Christ by the defeat of the "Zan" bill in early November 2021 following a protest note that Pope Francis authorised from his Vatican state Secretariat of State to the Italian state government against this "Zan" anti-homophobia bill, In this way, Pope Francis self-identified as suffering illness as emotional and/or mental relying on God as the absolute power of authorisation which power Pope Francis exercised for his healing from one or both of these illnesses.

[@jackhartmann1084]

Being an agnostic simulation guy, I somehow still watch this. Diversity of guests is good, Lex!

[@videowatcher7777]

Synonyms

[@BradleyG01]

Yeah Lex is the only person who could make such a conversation worthwhile

[@Grasquet]

About simulation, his definition of God is basicly a self simulation.

[@beerman204]

I want my daughter to get married in a simulation ceremony ...

[@truetech4158]

Priests are purely delusional and want you to pretend that arsons cause the victims to go to a fancy place in the smiley sky of clinical schizophrenia. My home received an arson threat from a smiley unapologetic catholic cleptomaniac. Expose the mafia of mythology. $$$$

[@TheJaYSolo]

Lex Fridman, your channel has helped me in such a profound way that I can't even describe with words what its doing for me in my life. One day soon it would be such an honor to convey my thank you in person and to shake your hand my friend. You're channel is filling a VOID in me that I've missed in my life because I took a different course. Never been to college or even hung out with any friends who have. Your platform of intellectuals gives me what I missed out on and I cannot thank you enough Lex... you have no idea the impact every video means to me brother THANK YOU

[@CathDad4]

Listening to Bishop Barron articulate God is Beauty. The expressed beauty of human language, of thought. Of the same way we enjoy beautiful music. Is awe inspiring.

[@CathDad4]

Not going to lie, I’ve practically had a dictionary website up for half this talk. lol

[@papabilby8855]

What an awesome conversation. Podcasts like this have absolutely changed my views on all aspects of life and what’s possible. I crave these types of interactions and really have no way to have these types of conversations in my life outside of these podcasts.

[@CryptoC4T]

You are not alone ;)

[@elsacooper1769]

Same here. When I was young family mealtimes around the table would sometimes included such good conversations. These days blue screens are everywhere and we are being mentally spammed and programs are dumbed down. Family conversations can become heated and hostile. Time is 'too short'. We are being polarised by those with vested interests, through oversimplifications and soundbytes. People seem to be forgetting how to talk with each other. Indeed to listen to each other: "Talk to one another - we've got to learn to talk it out. We've got to learn what the other's about." (Brown Bannister song) Grateful that there are no ads here too.

[@oliverclark5604]

@@elsacooper1769 "vested interests" of those by whom "the great majority of sacramental marriages ...[as] invalid' (Pope Francis, 15 May 2014) are 'touched' up by such as Barron for economic advantage of the families of these groomers by tax-exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud to purport to presume separation of "heart and mind (NIV Acts 4:32) causing extreme tensions only withstood by those, like Mary, mother of Jesus who in uncertainty "believed" (Luke 1:45), who were of "one heart and mind [or RSV "soul"]".

[@oliverclark5604]

to papabilby, Bishop Robert Barron's job in his role should be ensuring his procreation gift role as a helper of the family within the family. Instead, Barron sees his job as to include to cover up his complicity in sexual abuse of minors and other vulnerable family members. This cover up by Barton is with a non-economic status inducement of association with a falsely purported presumed “higher vocation” of celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to male-female marriage vowed to God for economic advantage of his family by tax-exemption embezzlement and lower insurance costs by fraud. This complicity by Barron is as revealed by the exercise of an absolute power (God) of joining in consecrated either male female or celibate marriage. This joining is on the reference point of the other consecrated marriage; that is, male female on celibate and vice versa in covenant, non-presumed reciprocity. This exercise of an absolute power is of simultaneous authorisations of applications of ensuring family member procreation role gift and insuring need of union of family member identity. This exercise by me out occults Barron’s occult evil position at time 50:50 - 54:23 of his interview by Lex Fridman c.mid-2022 of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ as "a higher [vocation] way of love" than consecrated male-female marriage vowed to God. From Oliver Clark for "Job's Trust", Brisbane, Australia acting on a direction of me as a catechist by the Pope's Council for the Laity, Vice-President, Bishop Paul Cordes, through the parish I served of the Kenmore Catholic Community of the Archdiocese of Brisbane, Australia (ref. no. 874/94/S-61/F on the preceding letter to me from Bishop Cordes, dated 24 June 1994) asking its contents be communicated to me, and on his advice to me as Archbishop President of the Pope's Council "Cor Unum" in his letter addressing “Job’s Trust” through Emmanuel Covenant Community of this Archdiocese, dated 11 May 2001.

[@sprydog3853]

Thanks to Bishop Barron for a tour-de-force masterclass in Catholic theology and life, and thanks to Rex for providing the forum for it. Bravo!

[@oliverclark5604]

to sprydog, The extreme tensions caused by Bishop Barron's "master class" in falsely purporting presuming separation of catholic church role group "theology" thinking and having faith heart "life" are withstood by an exercise by Pope Francis from his inauguration as Pope Mass on 19 March 2013, particularly illustrated on 10 June 2021 in the matters of: (a) an unacceptable risk of fraud on his insuring his need of union of his identity as a consecrated celibate married by his vows to man in Christ by the Italian state Parliament "Zan" anti-homophobia bill, (b) alleged embezzlement of his procreation role gift charity donations as a helper of his family within his family by the Vatican state group of ten citizens/employees, including Cardinal Angelo Becciu, of an absolute power of his simultaneous authorisations of his ensuring procreation role gift and his insuring his need of union of his identity as a consecrated celibate married by vows to man in Christ on the reference point of family members of consecrated marriages, including of two members of my family, Coln Clark and me, and of Mary as recorded at Luke 1: 29-45 and at Matthew 1:25. The occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, grooming by Lex Fridman and Bishop Rober Barron of each other as psychologically and or emotionally vulnerable family members with a non-economic, false status inducement of higher vocation as a "higher way of love" (Bishop Barron at time 50:50) of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God is in their evading their accountability and amends for their families' economic advantage by tax-exemption embezzlement and lower insurance costs by fraud. This kind of thinking without heart of Bishop Robert Barron in complicity with Lex Fridman is occult as hidden and incest connected as substitute mate. I believe that Bishop Barron and Lex Fridman 'had on' each other in their complicity in not holding each other accountable and to make amends for their complicity in tax-exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud. The question on my mind (or soul) in its education also is inseparably and qualitatively equally a question on my "heart" (RSV Acts 4:32) in its conversion by my accountability and amends. My answer, as also found by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 or just after in: (a) the Vatican state matter of alleged embezzlement of Pope Francis' ensuring procreation gift role charity donations as a helper of his family within his family by Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine other Vatican state citizens/employees, (b) the Italian state Parliament matter of an unacceptable risk of fraud on his insuring his need of union of his identity as a consecrated celibate married by his vows to man in Christ by the "Zan" anti-homophobia bill, is by the absolute power of our accountability and amends for our tax-exemption embezzlement and our insurance fraud in our been joined in consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ on the reference point of Mary vowed to both God and to man in Christ as reported at Luke 1:29-45 ("let it be to me" consecrated celibate marriage by vows to man in Christ) and Matthew 1:25 "he took his wife" (consecrated male female marriage of Mary with St Joseph vowed to God). This absolute power (God) is exercised in the absolute power of our accountability and amends in our out occulting of the occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, grooming by diseased family member 'familyists' of their emotionally and or psychologically vulnerable family members (such as Lex Fridman and Bishop Robert Barron) with a non-economic false status inducement of association with "higher vocation" (time 50:50 "higher way of love") falsely purported presumed of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God. In Pope Francis' case this out occulting is seen in: (a) the defeat of the "Zan" bill in early November 2021 after a protest note to the Italian government against it authorised by Pope Francis, (b) the criminal inditements for tax-exemption embezzlement against Becciu + 9 in Pope Francis Vatican state court presently near completion of been heard. This out occulting can only occur if: 1. the occulter keeps or allows this inseparability and qualitative equality of their mind (soul) and heart, 2. their out occulting is "to his face" 3. in not knowing, though in uncertainty believing, their identity heart and role mind (soul).

[@FreePercussion]

Incredible interview. Just fantastic. Thanks Lex, this is life affirming stuff.

[@joey_yangyin]

Agreed :)

[@oliverclark5604]

"fantastic" for me that Barron does not mention consecrated celibacy or consecrated male female marriage on the clerical sexual abuse issue. Barron makes no use of Pope Francis' statements and actions on marriage that de facto have changed the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church to include 'qualitatively equal" with "inseparable" for "union and procreation in marriage.

[@bradweinberger6907]

@@oliverclark5604 you could find many topics he didn't mention. What is your point?

[@oliverclark5604]

@@bradweinberger6907 Bishop Barron referred to this topic but not its cause that I believe is the family not keeping this qualitative equality. Addressing Bishop Robert Barron and all, Re "abuse of power": These “[e]xtreme tensions” (Pontifical Council for the Laity Vice-President, Bishop Paul Cordes’, book: “Charisms and new evangelisation”, St Paul, 1992, translation of 1990 edition in German p.156) result from grooming by diseased “familyist” persons in, but not of families of psychologically and or emotionally vulnerable family members for their families tax exemption and lower insurance cost economic advantages with occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic “higher vocation” status inducements. Because of this causation, the great majority of you are incapable of, in uncertainty, believing that church and state are equally in quantity and quality helpers of the family. You are hence incapable of believing that the problem is “Within the Family” (Pope St John Paul 11's Pontifical Council for the Family teaching document: TTMHS, PCF, 1995, title). This problem in the family is of it not exercising its absolute power of simultaneous (to avoid ethical utilitarianism) authorisations of applications of ensuring procreation gift and insuring union need when of a consecrated valid and proper marriage, either celibate vowed to Christ or male female vowed to God, by associating together with another such family. This problem is not caused by economic, political or religious abuse of power by these helpers of the family which result from dysfunctional families' grooming with non-economic status inducements of their psychologically and or emotionally vulnerable helpers of the family for tax exemption and lower insurance cost economic advantages of these families. You are left with your and St Paul’s erroneous “opinion” at 1Cor7:25-34 of “higher vocation” (TTMHS, PCF, 1995, 35) non-economic status of the consecrated celibate to the consecrated male female married. Trying to work from “beauty” to ‘works’ with Bishop Robert Barron is that same groomed consequentialism purporting presuming non-qualitative equality of procreation and union in marriage even when, as St Thomas Aquinas did, accepting their inseparability.

[@brotherbroseph1416]

Anglican here who believes in the Mass. Bishop is amazing! God bless. Hail Mary

[@Apriluser]

Anglican here, as well.

[@brotherbroseph1416]

@@Apriluser what parish?

[@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc]

Q: Is Anglicanism the same Catholicism minus papal rule ? OR Is what you wrote specifically about you personally ?

[@brotherbroseph1416]

@@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc some Anglicanism is pretty much the same. That is called Anglo-Catholicism. But unfortunately, many Anglicans no longer practice the way the church has always practiced

[@ghgfjfgkghdfh]

As an atheist(raised chatolic) i'm really excited to listen to this conversation. Christianity, the stories, the mythos never really appealed to me as a kid even though i was raised to be a chatolic. For whatever reason I never cared too much about it, I don't ever recall myself ever praying. Nothing about it felt special or important to me. I'm not interested in becoming a christian, but in understanding more the mind and reasons why someone becomes one. I understand now what i didn't understand when i was a teen, that the structure, dogmatic nature, and sense of community within religions can be extremely beneficial for a subset of people who really identify themselves with it. Nothing in this world will work for everyone, but I'm very interested in hearing why it works for him/you. What god means to you, the idea of it and your faith in it. All these things are very interesting to me, not because i believe in them but because i believe that in understanding those perspectives i can know more about myself and the world around me.

[@Spathephoros]

I always give my girl shit about being a chatholic...she never shuts up.

[@o.m.kaya-ozturk1091]

You should remember Hitchens' statement that we haven't forgot what the Church did when it had all the power.

[@o.m.kaya-ozturk1091]

@Yarp Yarp yeah, but Barron is catholic

[@_masterofnone_]

@Yarp Yarp Sure, but the history of the Church should be a valid enough reason to discard Christianity.

[@TheRealFranc]

Ah if you are trying to understand, you are trying to seek the father!

[@colleen412]

"He[God] sneaks up on us!" "God finds us..." Inspiring from beginning to end. So much beauty, wisdom and truth in this conversation. THANK YOU!

[@oliverclark5604]

to Colleen, I believe that I sneak up on God and that I find God in covenant, non-presumed reciprocity. Lex Fridman does not challenge at time 50:50 Bishop Barron's assertion of "a higher way of love". In his not noting the conclusions of the testing from 1931 by Colin Clark of the multiplier effect in economics worldwide and/or not been joined in a consecrated marriage, either celibate vowed to man in Christ or male female vowed to God, Bishop Robert Barron suffers an uncontrollable oscillation between his discerning "a higher way of loving" (time 50:50) as a process 'do-ing' way of procreation gift love and a 'be-ing' progress way of identity love in need of union. This uncontrollable "oscillation between persistent forms of regressive 'familyism' on the one hand and an affirmation of radical individualism on the other that, in destroying the family reverses the progress of humanisation, heedless of the long-term consequences of so doing." (address of Pope Francis' delegate as President of his Council for the Family, Archbishop Vincenzo Paglia, at the United Nations HQ on the UNO "International Day of the Family", 15 May, 2014).

[@13StJimmy]

I’m glad he’s someone who actually knows St. Thomas Aquinas’s teaches and writings because that was a man too smart for his time. He has a lot of answers to questions about the faith but for years people didn’t seem to know how in-depth he could be

[@MiguelStinson88]

This is one of the best known church philosophers of all time. I'd be surprised if he didn't know him, tbh.

[@truetech4158]

He's a smiley scammer with smiley disingenuous enablers.

[@alexk48]

@@truetech4158 Ad hominems are neither rational arguments nor convincing. They also make you sound quite unintelligent.

[@truetech4158]

@@alexk48 you sure sound schizophrenic.

[@ufosully]

@@alexk48 I suppose its "unintelligent" to talk about the massive amount of child abuse that has and still goes on in the Catholic Church? Magdalene laundries anyone? Canadian native child Genocide? How about all the payoffs and cover ups once the abuse had been discovered? How about the many peado priests that haven't been excommunicated and were just moved on to places like Africa and South America? That'll be the next scandel once those countries realise they're surrounded by peado priests that were just moved on so they can abuse with impunity once again. What a wonderful divine organisation the Catholic Church is. Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

[@donnienepp5164]

A lot of people don’t realize how much value is in this video, thank you.

[@coconutpie6649]

Incredible. My heart is full listening to this podcast. Thank you

[@oliverclark5604]

to "Coconut Pie", Bishop Robert Barron allows purporting presuming that he accepts teaching of: Pope St John Paul 11: "the Church has constantly defended the superiority of this charism ["virginity or celibacy"] to that of marriage", FC, 1981, 16; Pope St Paul V1 omitting 'qualitative equality' with "inseparable ... union and procreation" in marriage (HV, 1968, 12); Vatican Council 11: "... the greater excellence of virginity consecrated to Christ", OT, 1965, 10; Pope Pius X11: "holy virginity surpasses marriage in excellence", SV, 1954, 24; and the "opinion" of St Paul at 1Cor 7:25-34 that the male female married as "divided" "anxious to please" their spouses compared with the single consecrated person who is not divided: "about the affairs of the Lord". Bishop Barron is groomed/grooming to purport presuming knowing as opposed to believing that consecrated celibacy with which he associates is a "higher vocation" than male female marriage and hence Bishop Barron is complicit in tax exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud by diseased family member "familyists" for their families economic advantage grooming vulnerable family members with an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic status inducement of this "higher vocation [of consecrated celibacy compared to male female marriage]" (Pope St John Paul 11s Council for the Family "teaching" document, TTMHS, 1995, 35). The remedy is for Bishop Barron to be "Blessed" as one who in uncertainty "believed" (Luke 1:45) instead of purporting presuming "knowing good and evil" (Genesis 3:5).

[@loganderrick7449]

I'm not at all a part of these organized religion, yet through my personal introspection I've come to agree with so much of what this guy says.

[@australopithecusafarensis5386]

You should convert to Catholicism. I did, and the practice of confession to the priest and being held accountable to morality in that way changed my life

[@Dan16673]

It ia

[@australopithecusafarensis5386]

@@ctr289 The cross is foolishness to those who are perishing

[@diodorussiculus2186]

Yes, that's how they get you.

[@RobinLundqvist]

Same! Still won't go to church on Sunday though

[@mjcapp8396]

I’ve been waiting for this one! Thanks for having him on.

[@peterplotts1238]

Ditto, even though I didn't envision Bishop Barron as a possible Lex quest.

[@fahimp3]

I enjoyed the word salad too. Can't stop watching this guy try putting lipstick on a pig... 😂🤣

[@peterplotts1238]

@@fahimp3 Well now aren't you just a delight. Do you have a point, apart from telling the world you are full of hatred and malice?

[@pothecary]

@@fahimp3 Complex language does not necessarily equal word salad.

[@fahimp3]

@@peterplotts1238 What is "full of hatred and malice" are the books he is trying to put the metaphorical lipstick on...

[@MarkHunterSolo]

This is an amazing conversation with a true Bishop charged up with the Wisdom of years of scholarship and experience. It takes real depth like this to truly clarify the crucial issues which matter to human welfare and our final destiny…

[@DevinPA410]

To watch a true master of science and a true modern pioneer of theology sit down, have open and respectful dialogue, and find common ground…let’s have more of this in the world.

[@oliverclark5604]

to @HailThor89, taken in by Barron purporting presuming falsely separation of science and theology as "touched" up for economic advantage of the families of such groomers by tax embezzlement and insurance fraud to purport to presume separation of "heart and mind (NIV Acts 4:32) causing extreme tensions only withstood by those like Mary, mother of Jesus who in uncertainty "believed were of one heart and mind [or RSV "soul"]".

[@oliverclark5604]

to DevinPA, Bishop Robert Barron's job in his role should be ensuring his procreation gift role as a helper of the family within the family. Instead, Barron sees his job as to include to cover up his complicity in sexual abuse of minors and other vulnerable family members. This cover up by Barton is with a non-economic status inducement of association with a falsely purported presumed “higher vocation” of celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to male-female marriage vowed to God for economic advantage of his family by tax-exemption embezzlement and lower insurance costs by fraud. This complicity by Barron is as revealed by the exercise of an absolute power (God) of joining in consecrated either male female or celibate marriage. This joining is on the reference point of the other consecrated marriage; that is, male female on celibate and vice versa in covenant, non-presumed reciprocity. This exercise of an absolute power is of simultaneous authorisations of applications of ensuring family member procreation role gift and insuring need of union of family member identity. This exercise by me out occults Barron’s occult evil position at time 50:50 - 54:23 of his interview by Lex Fridman c.mid-2022 of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ as "a higher [vocation] way of love" than consecrated male-female marriage vowed to God. From Oliver Clark for "Job's Trust", Brisbane, Australia acting on a direction of me as a catechist by the Pope's Council for the Laity, Vice-President, Bishop Paul Cordes, through the parish I served of the Kenmore Catholic Community of the Archdiocese of Brisbane, Australia (ref. no. 874/94/S-61/F on the preceding letter to me from Bishop Cordes, dated 24 June 1994) asking its contents be communicated to me, and on his advice to me as Archbishop President of the Pope's Council "Cor Unum" in his letter addressing “Job’s Trust” through Emmanuel Covenant Community of this Archdiocese, dated 11 May 2001.

[@oliverclark5604]

to DevinPA410, Do you refer to the "common ground" of at least apparent to me complicity by omission in occult, incest connected hiding and disrespect in tax-exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud of Lex Fridman and Bishop Robert Barron in neither holding the other to accountability and amends for these offences causing the "worldwide catastrophe" (Pope Francis, 10 June 2021) of sexual abuse within the family by purported presumed clerical helpers of the family in "the great majority of sacramental marriages [as] are invalid" (Pope Francis, 15 June 2016)?

[@joelmontero9439]

This is the best conversation Bishop Barron has ever had, he is really great, he is one of the people God used to bring me from atheism to Christianity. God bless you all 🙏

[@oliverclark5604]

Joel Momtero, Bishop Robert Barron does not help to lead me to keep 'covenant, non-presumed qualitative reciprocity' of inseparable union and procreation in valid and proper marriage. Bishop Barron has been groomed by diseased "familyist" family members to be complicit in tax exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud with an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic status inducement for the economic advantage of these family members. "The cause and remedy of the clerical sexual abuse crisis is within the family" (reported by Crux as stated by Pope Francis' delegate, Cardinal Arlindo Furtado, at the conclusion of Pope Francis' Synod on "Youth, Vocation and Discernment", October 2018). Bishop Robert Barron as not a consecrated celibate married by vows to Christ is incapable of understanding 'qualitative equality' kept or allowed in uncertainty of belief in consecrated Jesuit religious order priest married by vows to Christ, Pope Francis', simultaneous authorisations in exercising an absolute power of authorisation on or just after 10 June 2021. These authorisations, to surpass ethical utilitarianism, were simultaneous by Pope Francis and were of his Vatican State Secretariat of State's applications with 100% accuracy of: 1. ensuring in the case of Vatican state Cardinal Angelo Becciu + 9 alleged embezzlement of tax exempt procreation role ensuring gift charity donations; 2. insuring in the case of the Italian state "Zan" anti-homophobia bill risk of fraud on cost of insuring union need of identities in valid and proper marriages . These authorisations by Pope Francis de facto adding "qualitative equality" to "inseparable' of union and procreation in marriage (cf. Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter, "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12: marriage has: "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation") were of applications by his Vatican state Secretariat of State of ensuring procreation gift within the family and insuring union need of identities within the family with 100% accuracy, This accuracy authorised by Pope Francis surpasses ethically utilitarian inaccurate "Catholic teaching" that "holy virginity surpasses marriage in excellence" (Encyclical Letter of Pope Pius X11, "Of Holy Virginity", Sacra virginitas, 1954, 24; cf. Pope St John Paul 11, "Letter to Families", FC, 1981, 16: "the church has constantly defended the superiority of this charism ["virginity or celibacy"] to that of marriage"; "opinion" of St Paul at RSV 1Cor7:25-35.)

[@oliverclark5604]

Joel Montero, Bishop Robert Barron in his certainty that his fairy tale is real is not acting/being in a consecrated family vowed either to Christ or to God living the evangelical counsels of poverty, chastity and obedience. The "ulterior motives" of Bishop Barron are from an insincere place such as St Thomas Aquinas disregarding 'qualitative equality' of reason thinking 'do-ing' and having faith 'be-ing': "I only do what the Father does ... the Father and I are one". These "motives" are as hidden as occult and incest connected as substitute mate for grooming by diseased family member "familyists" such as Bishop Barron by his purported intellectual oscillating with purported having faith sleight of hand. This grooming is of psychologically and or emotionally vulnerable family members in their supposed helper of the family roles, such as also Bishop Barron, for their families' economic tax exemption and insurance cost advantages with non-economic higher vocation status inducements. The great majority of these family members are family members of invalid marriages such as from the responses to this post I judge are most of these responders. Pope Francis in 2015 warned that "the great majority of marriages are invalid" resulting the the "worldwide catastrophe" of tax exempt fees or donations embezzlement and insurance fraud that I judge he confirmed in his letter to Cardinal Reinhart Marx released on 10 June 2021. Pope Francis corrected the sleight of hand of 'letting one's left hand of purported thinking know what one's right hand of purported having faith is doing' and vice versa, typified by Bishop Barron's conduct, of facilitating this tax exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud from 10 June 2021 in the: 1. alleged embezzlement of tax exempt charity donations case of his Vatican state citizens, Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine others presently been in Pope Francis' Vatican state court; 2. unacceptable risk of fraud on identities of family members need of union case of the "Zan" anti-homophobia bill before the Italian state Parliament (defeated after a protest by Pope Francis' Vatican state Secretariat of State in early November 2021).

[@yekatyaap548]

Thank you for bringing on someone of faith Lex :) I’m orthodox Christian but Bishop Barron is my favorite catholic I think

[@bethq1703]

Might want to check out Cathecism if you really want idea of Catholic teachings. Let's just say that it is 100 percent accurate whereas worldliness has infiltrated and skewed training or thinking of some hierarchy and clergy. Sadly we now have situation in our Catholic Church where not every Bishop or priest is adhering to Catholic doctrine and teaching ie the Catholic Faith.

[@oliverclark5604]

Yekatyaa P, Bishop Robert Barron does not help to lead me to keep 'covenant, non-presumed qualitative reciprocity' of inseparable union and procreation in valid and proper marriage. Bishop Barron has been groomed by diseased "familyist" family members to be complicit in tax exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud with an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic status inducement for the economic advantage of these family members. "The cause and remedy of the clerical sexual abuse crisis is within the family" (reported by Crux as stated by Pope Francis' delegate, Cardinal Arlindo Furtado, at the conclusion of Pope Francis' Synod on "Youth, Vocation and Discernment", October 2018). Bishop Robert Barron as not a consecrated celibate married by vows to Christ is incapable of understanding 'qualitative equality' kept or allowed in uncertainty of belief in consecrated Jesuit religious order priest married by vows to Christ, Pope Francis', simultaneous authorisations in exercising an absolute power of authorisation on or just after 10 June 2021. These authorisations, to surpass ethical utilitarianism, were simultaneous by Pope Francis and were of his Vatican State Secretariat of State's applications with 100% accuracy of: 1. ensuring in the case of Vatican state Cardinal Angelo Becciu + 9 alleged embezzlement of tax exempt procreation role ensuring gift charity donations; 2. insuring in the case of the Italian state "Zan" anti-homophobia bill risk of fraud on cost of insuring union need of identities in valid and proper marriages . These authorisations by Pope Francis de facto adding "qualitative equality" to "inseparable' of union and procreation in marriage (cf. Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter, "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12: marriage has: "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation") were of applications by his Vatican state Secretariat of State of ensuring procreation gift within the family and insuring union need of identities within the family with 100% accuracy, This accuracy authorised by Pope Francis surpasses ethically utilitarian inaccurate "Catholic teaching" that "holy virginity surpasses marriage in excellence" (Encyclical Letter of Pope Pius X11, "Of Holy Virginity", Sacra virginitas, 1954, 24; cf. Pope St John Paul 11, "Letter to Families", FC, 1981, 16: "the church has constantly defended the superiority of this charism ["virginity or celibacy"] to that of marriage"; "opinion" of St Paul at RSV 1Cor7:25-35.)

[@ihznt]

I've been agnostic since my mormon baptism at 8yo- this dude is the one guy in 19 years that has made me wonder if there's some logic to christianity. so well spoken.

[@Peter_Mercier]

Yo Lex! This interview was absolutely riveting. Unbelievable. Thank you so much for your work, brother, and for sometimes exploring topics that are so polarizing, but yet extremely important and educational. I’m a HUGE fan, brother!! Keep rockin’ it, kid 😎👊🏻💥.

[@oliverclark5604]

"educational" in that Barron does not mention consecrated celibacy or consecrated male female marriage on the clerical sexual abuse issue. Barron makes no use of Pope Francis' statements and actions on marriage that de facto have changed the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church to include 'qualitatively equal" with "inseparable" for "union and procreation in marriage.

[@specialteams28]

Videos of this quality and even better are weekly occurrences on Bishop Barron’s own KZbin channel WordOnFire. You would love it there.

[@christianlemus44]

If only every religious person were as loving, intelligible and creative as Bishop Barron. Oh how different the world would be.

[@ghoulish6125]

If only every religious and non religious* person were as loving, intelligible and creative.

[@chelebeaqueen]

...perhaps... i think there are more than we know of, more than make themselves known... remember : an integral part of the beauty of these seemingly rare indivuduals is HUMILITY. we don't readily know of them, arguably numerous, because they do not brag. 😉🥰

[@tomcoop9750]

Most are. Most are not like what you see on Fox News lol

[@theguy8111]

​@@betlamed jeeze you have some resentment and bias in you man, did you even watch the whole interview?

[@canadianamateurfilmdude]

If only every atheist was as fair, genuine and curious as Lex.. goes both ways.

[@samanthamccarthy325]

That was an absolute joy and a blessing to listen to. It was the greatest surprise to me, to realise how Christianity could satisfy the hunger of my mind as I encountered it's deep flavour of honesty and truth. This conversation brought all of that out. Lex, you do a great service in drawing out of Bishop Barron the real reasons that careful, thinking, honest Christian's have for their faith.

[@oliverclark5604]

Samantha McCarthy, Bishop Robert Barron does not help to lead me to keep 'covenant, non-presumed qualitative reciprocity' of inseparable union and procreation in valid and proper marriage. Bishop Barron has been groomed by diseased "familyist" family members to be complicit in tax exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud with an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic status inducement for the economic advantage of these family members. "The cause and remedy of the clerical sexual abuse crisis is within the family" (reported by Crux as stated by Pope Francis' delegate, Cardinal Arlindo Furtado, at the conclusion of Pope Francis' Synod on "Youth, Vocation and Discernment", October 2018). Bishop Robert Barron as not a consecrated celibate married by vows to Christ is incapable of understanding 'qualitative equality' kept or allowed in uncertainty of belief in consecrated Jesuit religious order priest married by vows to Christ, Pope Francis', simultaneous authorisations in exercising an absolute power of authorisation on or just after 10 June 2021. These authorisations, to surpass ethical utilitarianism, were simultaneous by Pope Francis and were of his Vatican State Secretariat of State's applications with 100% accuracy of: 1. ensuring in the case of Vatican state Cardinal Angelo Becciu + 9 alleged embezzlement of tax exempt procreation role ensuring gift charity donations; 2. insuring in the case of the Italian state "Zan" anti-homophobia bill risk of fraud on cost of insuring union need of identities in valid and proper marriages . These authorisations by Pope Francis de facto adding "qualitative equality" to "inseparable' of union and procreation in marriage (cf. Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter, "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12: marriage has: "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation") were of applications by his Vatican state Secretariat of State of ensuring procreation gift within the family and insuring union need of identities within the family with 100% accuracy, This accuracy authorised by Pope Francis surpasses ethically utilitarian inaccurate "Catholic teaching" that "holy virginity surpasses marriage in excellence" (Encyclical Letter of Pope Pius X11, "Of Holy Virginity", Sacra virginitas, 1954, 24; cf. Pope St John Paul 11, "Letter to Families", FC, 1981, 16: "the church has constantly defended the superiority of this charism ["virginity or celibacy"] to that of marriage"; "opinion" of St Paul at RSV 1Cor7:25-35.)

[@oliverclark5604]

Samantha McCarthy, Bishop Robert Barron in his certainty that his fairy tale is real is not acting/being in a consecrated family vowed either to Christ or to God living the evangelical counsels of poverty, chastity and obedience. The "ulterior motives" of Bishop Barron are from an insincere place such as St Thomas Aquinas disregarding 'qualitative equality' of reason thinking 'do-ing' and having faith 'be-ing': "I only do what the Father does ... the Father and I are one". These "motives" are as hidden as occult and incest connected as substitute mate for grooming by diseased family member "familyists" such as Bishop Barron by his purported intellectual oscillating with purported having faith sleight of hand. This grooming is of psychologically and or emotionally vulnerable family members in their supposed helper of the family roles, such as also Bishop Barron, for their families' economic tax exemption and insurance cost advantages with non-economic higher vocation status inducements. The great majority of these family members are family members of invalid marriages such as from the responses to this post I judge are most of these responders. Pope Francis in 2015 warned that "the great majority of marriages are invalid" resulting the the "worldwide catastrophe" of tax exempt fees or donations embezzlement and insurance fraud that I judge he confirmed in his letter to Cardinal Reinhart Marx released on 10 June 2021. Pope Francis corrected the sleight of hand of 'letting one's left hand of purported thinking know what one's right hand of purported having faith is doing' and vice versa, typified by Bishop Barron's conduct, of facilitating this tax exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud from 10 June 2021 in the: 1. alleged embezzlement of tax exempt charity donations case of his Vatican state citizens, Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine others presently been in Pope Francis' Vatican state court; 2. unacceptable risk of fraud on identities of family members need of union case of the "Zan" anti-homophobia bill before the Italian state Parliament (defeated after a protest by Pope Francis' Vatican state Secretariat of State in early November 2021).

[@oliverclark5604]

to @samantham..., I disagree. It was disrespecting by Lex Fridman of his audience and Bishop Barron by letting Bishop Robert Barron get away with his masterclass in inverting Catholic 'do-ing' theology and 'be-ing' life". This was in Barron's grooming and/or been groomed by his audience with an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic false status inducement of association with consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ falsely purported presumed a "higher vocation" than consecrated male female marriage vowed to God. This was especially in Lex Fridman letting Barron get away with denying a connection between clerical sexual abuse and roman catholic church role group teaching on consecrated (for religious clergy or laity) or promised (for secular clergy) celibacy. Pope Francis is not so taken in and/or attempting taking in as evident since his inauguration Mass for the Feast of St Joseph on 19 March 2013 and particularly on 10 June 2021 by on the reference point of Mary, mother of Jesus, reported at Luke 1:29-45, and the 'very few' (Pope Francis, 15 June 2016) subsequent "valid" consecrated "sacramental marriages" his simultaneous authorisations with an exercise of an absolute power in the matters of: (a) alleged tax-exemption embezzlement (Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine others presently been heard in Pope Francis' authorisation in Pope Francis' Vatican state criminal court), (b) lower insurance costs by fraud (Italian Parliament "Zan" anti-homophobia bill defeated in early November 2021 after a protest against it by Pope Francis' Secretariat of State authorised by Pope Francis).

[@lorimcclure2651]

I've listened to this several times. It is so moving. Each time I feel my faith becoming deeper and stronger. Thanks to you both.

[@WestchesterNYMilton]

Lex, another home run episode! I'm a fan of your podcast as well as of Bishop Barron and his Word on Fire online content (I'm Roman Catholic). This has to be one of the best podcast interviews I've seen. Your questions (it's my understanding you're not Catholic) were really solid and displayed well-prepared, meticulous research, and Bishop Barron's responses were thought-provoking and refreshing. Thank you.

[@oliverclark5604]

to WestchesterNYMilton, Bishop Robert Barron's job in his role should be ensuring his procreation gift role as a helper of the family within the family. Instead, Barron sees his job as to include to cover up his complicity in sexual abuse of minors and other vulnerable family members. This cover up by Barton is with a non-economic status inducement of association with a falsely purported presumed “higher vocation” of celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to male-female marriage vowed to God for economic advantage of his family by tax-exemption embezzlement and lower insurance costs by fraud. This complicity by Barron is as revealed by the exercise of an absolute power (God) of joining in consecrated either male female or celibate marriage. This joining is on the reference point of the other consecrated marriage; that is, male female on celibate and vice versa in covenant, non-presumed reciprocity. This exercise of an absolute power is of simultaneous authorisations of applications of ensuring family member procreation role gift and insuring need of union of family member identity. This exercise by me out occults Barron’s occult evil position at time 50:50 - 54:23 of his interview by Lex Fridman c.mid-2022 of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ as "a higher [vocation] way of love" than consecrated male-female marriage vowed to God. From Oliver Clark for "Job's Trust", Brisbane, Australia acting on a direction of me as a catechist by the Pope's Council for the Laity, Vice-President, Bishop Paul Cordes, through the parish I served of the Kenmore Catholic Community of the Archdiocese of Brisbane, Australia (ref. no. 874/94/S-61/F on the preceding letter to me from Bishop Cordes, dated 24 June 1994) asking its contents be communicated to me, and on his advice to me as Archbishop President of the Pope's Council "Cor Unum" in his letter addressing “Job’s Trust” through Emmanuel Covenant Community of this Archdiocese, dated 11 May 2001.

[@joshaustin1]

Love the bishop - I’m Jewish but love his message

[@ianp3112]

You mean the Catholics that turned the other cheek during the Holocaust, the ones that celebrated Hitler's birthday every year he was in power! The ones who officially blamed the Jews for Jesus's death until 1963! I'm sure that had nothing to do with the millions dead! Please learn some history! Cheers 😽

[@Thiago_Alves_Souza]

​@Christ Saves! Read Romans 10:9 sorry bro but the tile Messiah is given to many people in the Bible. Some Messianic figures predate Christ. Even king Cyrus is a messiah. Now THE Christ Christians believe is someone different for sure but the only one that you can try and convince Jews is MESSIAH Ben David because even though Jesus was the legal son of Joseph it means tribes Ben Yosed could beam Ephraim or Manasseh.

[@Thiago_Alves_Souza]

@Christ Saves! Read Romans 10:9 oh deff just like there are gods but the biblical God is THE GOD of the universe. There are people who are messiah but they're not Ben David the blessed one which is the greatest of all. I do agree

[@violinimpulse]

Catholic and long time listener to both, great job on this interview!

[@oliverclark5604]

"josephviolin", Bishop Robert Barron does not help to lead me to keep 'covenant, non-presumed qualitative reciprocity' of inseparable union and procreation in valid and proper marriage. Bishop Barron has been groomed by diseased "familyist" family members to be complicit in tax exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud with an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic status inducement for the economic advantage of these family members. "The cause and remedy of the clerical sexual abuse crisis is within the family" (reported by Crux as stated by Pope Francis' delegate, Cardinal Arlindo Furtado, at the conclusion of Pope Francis' Synod on "Youth, Vocation and Discernment", October 2018). Bishop Robert Barron as not a consecrated celibate married by vows to Christ is incapable of understanding 'qualitative equality' kept or allowed in uncertainty of belief in consecrated Jesuit religious order priest married by vows to Christ, Pope Francis', simultaneous authorisations in exercising an absolute power of authorisation on or just after 10 June 2021. These authorisations, to surpass ethical utilitarianism, were simultaneous by Pope Francis and were of his Vatican State Secretariat of State's applications with 100% accuracy of: 1. ensuring in the case of Vatican state Cardinal Angelo Becciu + 9 alleged embezzlement of tax exempt procreation role ensuring gift charity donations; 2. insuring in the case of the Italian state "Zan" anti-homophobia bill risk of fraud on cost of insuring union need of identities in valid and proper marriages . These authorisations by Pope Francis de facto adding "qualitative equality" to "inseparable' of union and procreation in marriage (cf. Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter, "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12: marriage has: "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation") were of applications by his Vatican state Secretariat of State of ensuring procreation gift within the family and insuring union need of identities within the family with 100% accuracy, This accuracy authorised by Pope Francis surpasses ethically utilitarian inaccurate "Catholic teaching" that "holy virginity surpasses marriage in excellence" (Encyclical Letter of Pope Pius X11, "Of Holy Virginity", Sacra virginitas, 1954, 24; cf. Pope St John Paul 11, "Letter to Families", FC, 1981, 16: "the church has constantly defended the superiority of this charism ["virginity or celibacy"] to that of marriage"; "opinion" of St Paul at RSV 1Cor7:25-35.)