By popular demand, we've published an extended 40 minute cut of this roundtable discussion. Check it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4esoHZrh7SUfs0
@dan12con5 жыл бұрын
You can’t spell democrats without “rats”.
@poodlescone97005 жыл бұрын
You should do this type group interview with Latinos and Asians. It would be fascinating to get their different political perspectives.
@kultkulture5 жыл бұрын
I'm from Akron Ohio also.
@asoulbelow93735 жыл бұрын
What’s the woman with the blacktina shirts name?
@victorbilly47695 жыл бұрын
Good guys, we need to look inwards and talk about our problems as community seeking solutions.
@AfterSkool5 жыл бұрын
Let's see the unedited version.
@bertohead5 жыл бұрын
lol..... Vice unedited video. You're funny.
@pathosofmine5 жыл бұрын
mainstream media + truth dont add up
@user-gp5yz5yz4x5 жыл бұрын
Bruh this is scripted anyway. The unedited video is just more of what vice thinks you want to hear
@cynthx5 жыл бұрын
adblock ;)
@panpluto135 жыл бұрын
@@user-gp5yz5yz4x then why go into the comments? It's just what KZbin wants you to read.
@user-jo7wf9wf9u5 жыл бұрын
*But seriously VICE, you'll better release the FULL version of this! The audience deserves better.*
@jacobjackson12245 жыл бұрын
C R EXACTLY
@GTS300Coupe5 жыл бұрын
They won't release the uncut full version because the liberals will get smoked. Facts vs feelings. Look at the Steven Crowder Change My Mind series. Liberals operate in a fantasy land.
@austinadjutant56845 жыл бұрын
Gts300 Lol you mean paid actors that are supposed to make the left look like idiots?
@chrischristopher13125 жыл бұрын
GTS300 ahh yes the change my mind series, where a grown man goes to argue with children. I’d love to see crowder do that with actual established intellectuals
@GTS300Coupe5 жыл бұрын
Chris Christopher children? You mean college students. These people are brainwashed into thinking so many false narratives
@valleycraftblades5 жыл бұрын
I’m not conservative or liberal but it’s easy to see who’s arguing from an emotional perspective and who’s arguing with a logical perspective.
@bad-xtian77735 жыл бұрын
@Hierophant. That is true but liberals also have some science deniers in their midst with the whole anti vaxxers.
@zachswain21965 жыл бұрын
@Hierophant how about the biology deniers?
@gambu48105 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. You are lying, you are clearly conservative man. You know deep down inside that liberals are the ones who are always emotional while Conservatives and republicans are usually thoughtful.
@chrisb26685 жыл бұрын
Hierophant. Bullshite! Being a skeptic isn’t being a denier. Most conservatives acknowledge climate change-climate has changed throughout history. The question is how big a role is human contribution to it, and what to do about it. The problem with the science is that too many have been caught fudging numbers and relying on exaggerated computer modeling. What’s even worse, is that just about every prediction based on computer modeling has failed to come to fruition. We are well past the markers when the UN and Al Gore said entire countries would be washed away by 20 feet of rising sea level. Even more ironic is that instead of hoards of starving people, CO2 has contributed to a significant greening of the globe, making once desolate regions capable of farming and agriculture. Maybe the reason this skepticism exist is because of the bullshite lies the Left has propagated in their effort to redistribute wealth and control the lives of everyone.
@simoneharley25025 жыл бұрын
I am the only one who read this post and assumed he was saying the conservatives were emotional...because technically both sides made factual statements but one side was clearly more aggressive than the other.
@thelifeofpokenzo55212 жыл бұрын
My husband grew up in Brooklyn and went to public school there; many of his friends were gang members and hustlers. He decided to join the military to leave that life... And he asks his friends to do the same... They all said they didn't want to join the military because they didn't like anyone screaming at them or telling them what to do.... Now they are still doing the same thing and hustling to survive... My husband now has a master's degree in Aerospace, and he holds an executive position in the company that he works for... So my point is: We all have the same opportunity to do what we want with our lives. No one is to blame for our choices but ourselves. So blaming it on a school or society is not going anywhere...
@NomadA19 ай бұрын
I hear you and I did the same.. but no poor people should have to sign their life to the military for a fair shot. This proves there's a problem. You'll criticize those born in that lifestyle but not the ones draining our communities of resources, filling our communities with guns, and more..
@collinbailey64178 ай бұрын
@@NomadA1The point isn’t sign up for the military, sign your life away for a fair shot. It sounds like that individual was looking for something that could teach him discipline so he could learn how to thrive, you can learn that with having a job your committed to, work for that paycheck and stay disciplined so you can succeed. The point is to show that this individuals husband didn’t want to have the same life his friends chose, he found something that worked for him and put his mind to it. Others can do the same
@NomadA18 ай бұрын
@@collinbailey6417 Lol, Collin, what hood are you from? Kids are not joining the military from bad neighborhoods looking for “discipline”.. That’s just the byproduct. We do it to escape our environment and gain opportunities. Even seeing the military as an option requires a positive role model to introduce it. Most in the hood don’t know anything about the military.
@NomadA18 ай бұрын
@@collinbailey6417 What hood did you grow up in...? Your options USED TO BE make it big with entertainment, take out money you don’t have for college after attending purposefully underfunded schools, sign up for the military, get money doing something illegal, or do low wage grunt work for 10+ years. No one from the hood is joining the military for discipline or patriotism or whatever else y’all like to make up to avoid the obvious generational affects. Stop trying to apply your lens to something you’ve probably never lived.
@TheSpeedyLoonyCanoli7 ай бұрын
@@NomadA1bruh anyone born in the hood already american. They ain’t gotta be crossing a dessert and learning a whole new language while working the fields. They 100x more privileged than any immigrant.
@lazarusxartisttemple5 жыл бұрын
Why couldn’t this be a longer video instead of a video full of soundbytes? This is one way the media gets it wrong - not letting a real, full, in-context conversation be shown to the masses. 🤦🏾♂️
@MOBROOKS5 жыл бұрын
I too wish it had been longer.
@mragunathan16275 жыл бұрын
another reason why vice is now irrelevant, theyve just turned into another dinosaur
@Virallllllll5 жыл бұрын
You mean INTENTIONALLY not shown to control the narrative.
@mrzazzaable5 жыл бұрын
@@mragunathan1627 you can see a slight dust of what Gavin McGuinness made it for.
@jamesr55745 жыл бұрын
Should've been unedited at this point really.
@leharvard32235 жыл бұрын
They need to release an uncut version of this video because the beginning part never comes up.
@707nyah5 жыл бұрын
LE Harvard saaaammmeee
@fiilisboa5 жыл бұрын
I was about to say the same thing... this is the kind of content I want from the media, but I doubt very much the editors of Vice.
@kilmoturtles15 жыл бұрын
It's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too short. There is just a plethora of stuff that needs to be talked about in this one; it could be it's own nightly TV show and it would be able to run for 20 years.
@Paytonxoxoxo5 жыл бұрын
Yes please
@MrTempest20095 жыл бұрын
Wouldnt be unlike Vice to piece together a narative that suits their agenda
@Jason-wm5qe5 жыл бұрын
Vice don't realise that we'd watch 3 hours of this
@jaymac10225 жыл бұрын
The only thing they have left of this is the conservatives moping the floor with the liberals I'm sure and that's not in Iine with their narative
@vanillaroma8595 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Only 3 mins fits vices narrative
@waltera.39015 жыл бұрын
For real, that was too short.
@alexgandy24885 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t want any more of that blonde bitch
@jacobcranberry48795 жыл бұрын
You cant push the narrative you want with full context.
@ramicald3 жыл бұрын
Black conservative: If an immigrant who can barely speak English can make it and eventually have his own business can make it then anyone can make it. Black liberal: how dare you , just cause someone can doesn’t mean everyone can
@scifirealism59432 жыл бұрын
It's called survivorship bias.
@anthonyjohnson14644 ай бұрын
It's not the same. An immigrant came here when African Americans paved the way for other immigrants. They weren't targeted by the US government with separation of the family, having drugs pushed in their communities, and the list goes on.
@anthonyburchette25372 ай бұрын
Oh now we see with the Government giving the immigrants money, housing, healthcare and transportation as well as loans that this has been going on for decades. Blacks that are here are already in a system of greed, taxes, unfair housing, low wages, high healthcare and bleeding resources out of the community by using immigrants for Black people necessities...
@Jared-pn9zx4 жыл бұрын
Why was the blonde hair girl being so rude like, conservatives have a right to feel the way they feel just like you do.
@macadam6784 жыл бұрын
that's the definition of liberals right there, my man !
@Crmsn-qk2io4 жыл бұрын
Yeah there so salty, the ones I met at least.
@tc988264 жыл бұрын
Pulling faces is a legitimate form of argument for the left.
@chrisguzek10964 жыл бұрын
That is just how ignorant people are. They do not think logically, they just argue bs and are rude.
@krissmiley75194 жыл бұрын
Not in akron ohio they don't, a bunch of people put up stickers with hand made pro blm slogansg exept for one , which said black lives only matter when they are taken by white people ...that sticker got scraped of the wall within a few days the rest are still there
@ryanjames32745 жыл бұрын
This discussion should have been WAYYYYY longer than 6 minutes, smh.
@BaussHauggOutlawz5 жыл бұрын
Gotta keep it short. Dont want to create meaningful dialogue and fully articulated points...
@HueyPPLong5 жыл бұрын
Funny how blacks are even more against the wall than mexicans. Some sort of delusional dream of all the p.o.c's against the white man when in reality Hispanics becoming the 2nd largest minority simply puts blacks even lower in priority. How could you support bringing poor people from around the world to benefit from American prosperity when the majority of you yourself still haven't benefited.
@AKilahVamp5 жыл бұрын
@@HueyPPLong because the only reason you are a "natural" citizen is pure LUCK! That is if you are American, if you aren't , then this discussion doesn't pertain to you. And by luck I mean, as a zygote you didn't say "hmmmmm I wanna be born AMERICAN! "! Besides, the human race is persistent and that wall won't stop anyone who is determined enough to get here. And actually a lot of Mexicans are just using America as a pit stop on their way to Canada.
@Reub35 жыл бұрын
@@AKilahVamp Not really. There is growing trend that Mexicans are leaving USA and Canada. Its Central America that is coming in mass numbers. This is part of the reason why my people support the wall. We know that Central America is full of Real Socialists that progressives can't handle. Get ready for tax increases in Democrat strongholds. Keep increasing Real socialist latinos and you'll see blacks bump down the social justice hierarchy list even further. It boggles my mind seeing blacks try to equate themselves to my people. We are nothing alike and have noting in common. Don't put it past Latinos to use you and spit you out in order to get more benefits. #walkaway from the pinche demoniocrats.
@HueyPPLong5 жыл бұрын
@@AKilahVamp As a zygote I was a product of my mother and father who were natural born Americans. Nothing "lucky" about it. Unless you're talking about souls floating out in the ether somewhere that get randomly assigned bodies. But wall or no wall its up to current American citizens who they do or do not give citizenship to. Doesn't matter if they make it here or not.
@tylerreis76275 жыл бұрын
I dare vice to release the whole thing uncut
@androidgeeking5 жыл бұрын
They won't
@TheHocicoBreaker5 жыл бұрын
@@androidgeeking They woooon't!
@swagdrago5 жыл бұрын
The liberals will get smashed to pieces
@jayball8795 жыл бұрын
They won't - because they would show fully how retarded liberals are
@Redslayer865 жыл бұрын
@@swagdrago As always lol. No liberal viewpoints survive scrutiny. I mean this man literally said black people weren't taught to read for 200 years and people wonder why they can't now lol... Reading isn't genetic. I have people within my family that cannot read, but yet I have an IQ of 136 and read just fine lol. It's absurd to even say something like that. Yes, black people suffered in the past, but most nowadays, do not (comparatively speaking) and the whole idea of reparations, is patently absurd when you consider that a large % of blacks in the united states now, don't even come from a blood line of slaves lol.
@GrizzlyKnightX3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE how organized this is, its an actual discussion with reasonable people
@thekhid20786 ай бұрын
Arguing out of feelings doesn’t make you reasonable 😂😂😂😂
@dhjeueuefelen2 ай бұрын
did u not watch the same video I watched lmao liberals are NOT being reasonable in this video
@gzo79885 жыл бұрын
This is the conversation we’ve been waiting for. So now please upload a complete video of a complete debate.
@CS-zi1br5 жыл бұрын
This is all they can show without ruining the narrative.
@chiefperez5 жыл бұрын
@@CS-zi1br trueee
@ivancampbell81235 жыл бұрын
These guys are so dumb that's not even funny
@osas52115 жыл бұрын
Ivan Campbell how so?
@gaspackgriff97255 жыл бұрын
C S fr wtf even is this. 6 minutes of nothing.
@WeeHobbit875 жыл бұрын
Remember y'all, it's also okay to not be totally on one side. It's perfectly okay to agree with conservatives on some issues, and liberals on others. I feel like some people forget that.
@kristynburke5 жыл бұрын
true dat. we gotta listen to each other with reason. I think being so attached to one side naturally makes you antagonize the other
@silvisimaschaparra59694 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@RM-564 жыл бұрын
IMPOSSIBLE!
@russelljameskangasiii59254 жыл бұрын
I'm a satanic conservative.
@laurac20314 жыл бұрын
@@russelljameskangasiii5925 Tell me more!
@emmalouise77295 жыл бұрын
I love the guy in the top left. “Why we always assume black people are broke?” 😂
@willwinn85594 жыл бұрын
@@MissKitae Sorry , but that's not TRUE. Your research is wrong , or simply RACIST against White people .
@KobeManuPetro4 жыл бұрын
He is well articulate as well
@ambermouzone70684 жыл бұрын
Will Winn that’s actually correct 😭
@willwinn85594 жыл бұрын
@@ambermouzone7068 That it was just a racist stab at white people , yeah we know that . 😑
@ambermouzone70684 жыл бұрын
Will Winn no he was stating facts there’s nothing wrong with stating facts if it was about a black person im sure you wouldn’t care
@MizterB3 жыл бұрын
This should’ve been WAY longer. I hope it becomes a series.
@Matthewvhaynes5 жыл бұрын
This should not have been 6 minutes. They should've released the whole thing or not at all
@Carium15 жыл бұрын
You're right, this felt like a teaser for full story
@odd-duck5 жыл бұрын
Right I feel like this just showed people yelling at each other...
@Silentblogger6595 жыл бұрын
then we can name it "black on black, Raw and Uncut" edition
@bl51665 жыл бұрын
That’s Vice though they make it fit their narrative
@opensecret44515 жыл бұрын
1965 - 77% - Black Families Intact 2019 - 22% - Black Families Intact Courtesy of that Ole Dem9crat Party Klansman - Lyndon Johnston
@candysweet4344 жыл бұрын
the blonde girl is the definition of victim mentality.
@nate0187dogg14 жыл бұрын
100% and starts shouting random things if she doesnt agree
@macxavier1684 жыл бұрын
Because she doesn't believe that racism is ok?
@Josh980319024 жыл бұрын
And that’s why she’ll never accomplish anything significant in life in terms of hee career. It’s easy to blame whites. It’s always easy to point fingers. What makes the difference between successful people and unsuccessful people is the ability to be accountable for yourself. Little Jimmy isn’t responsible for your problems
@macxavier1684 жыл бұрын
Ask yourself this then: why are there SO MANY successful black people fighting against racism and unfair treatment then? Where's their "victim mentality"?
@Josh980319024 жыл бұрын
Mac Xavier that’s what I’m saying. They don’t have a victim mentality. They got a winner mentality and are accountable for themselves rather than blindly pointing fingers such as the blonde girl in the video
@scottiedunnavan38345 жыл бұрын
Short hair blonde girl is the kind of person that thinks talking louder wins the arguement.
@scottiedunnavan38345 жыл бұрын
& the type of psycho who is physically mad when ppl dont have the same opinions as them.
@AnniAizen5 жыл бұрын
the truth I hate those ppl it’s the Left though what do u expect😂😂😂
@goldenmemes515 жыл бұрын
@@AnniAizen were you in the video you look like the girl in the middle Haha
@ready401115 жыл бұрын
As a Democrat, I agree. I’ve had conversations with Republicans and I always let them finish what they’re saying. It is more about respect than trying to push your views onto someone. I’ve learned good things about a Republican side of politics from an economical standpoint; but regarding social issues I am a Democrat.
@kyledavis42025 жыл бұрын
She is the very epitome of why the right laughs at and mocks the left. She is physically triggered at the mere *hint* that somebody may have a dissenting opinion. She needs to calm tf down, seriously. People are allowed to have different opinions........you can’t just unfollow or block people and their viewpoints in real life the way you do on social media
@UltimateJellyG3010 ай бұрын
When the guy with the blue blazer said that celebrities were promoting the Democratic party he started cooking 😂
@catb1225 жыл бұрын
The girl with yellow short hair was horribly immature and just plain rude.
@TraceguyRune5 жыл бұрын
She is closed minded too. Didn't even want to hear them out.
@darthoof84855 жыл бұрын
Funny she fits the stereotypical loud mouth black person being rude
@RickDanner5 жыл бұрын
first thought I got shes stuck in full victim mode
@alejandro34855 жыл бұрын
Victim mentality 100%.
@6000hall5 жыл бұрын
@Kevin This is inherently false. Most black people are not like this and are normal humans. Unlike you.
@anayalater955 жыл бұрын
Can we please get the full unedited video!?
@rushthezeppelin5 жыл бұрын
But that would require them to honestly put forward the conservative position instead of just strawmanning it.....can't have that.
@silentassasin7415 жыл бұрын
It’s probably on their website
@kaycee10425 жыл бұрын
"Who was disappointed by the Obama presidency?" Guy raises both of his hands. I died of laughter.
@Eddie-ym1vq5 жыл бұрын
Who are they fooling. They all voted for Obama because he's black
@fuckyoutube1485 жыл бұрын
Kaycee but if you said you didn’t like Obama you were an automatic racist like wtf.
@Eddie-ym1vq5 жыл бұрын
@@fuckyoutube148 That is absolutely true. I would vote for Herman Cain, Ben Carson, Mia Love and the list goes on with black Conservatives because they represent what I believe
@mampenza5 жыл бұрын
@@Eddie-ym1vq So you vote the other president because they are whites?
@raygt27905 жыл бұрын
Lmao that guy is definitely a complete idiot
@Spinosaurus4ever Жыл бұрын
2:42 He's not a political guy. He just wants what's best for his people. Respect. Down with the two party system
@Dplatt495 жыл бұрын
How pissed must vice be that the conservatives owned the entire argument lolll
@DragonNuts5 жыл бұрын
They probably didn’t want to air it
@TajimaMunenori5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZzJaJmrn7Jnl8k
@xkee20135 жыл бұрын
What program did you watch?! Seemed about equal to me
@Kornknealious5 жыл бұрын
@@xkee2013 the one "liberal" guy seemed more actual classic liberal than today's insane liberal.. like the two chicks who looked outraged when the Busisness owner said she wants to end welfare - who are clearly insane white hating liberal black women.
@elijahgibran75695 жыл бұрын
This format always ends the same, the left gets steam-rolled.
@Christian-ib7io5 жыл бұрын
The girl with the yellow hair need to learn how to control her emotion. She's literally over here looking like a 12 year old when her mom said she can't get candy. Embarrassing.
@voidx69815 жыл бұрын
Classic liberal
@JustAnotherConspiracyTheorist5 жыл бұрын
She'll never leave the plantation.
@sephy25705 жыл бұрын
Whats MyName wow.
@withinyouwithutyu13245 жыл бұрын
@@JustAnotherConspiracyTheorist get a life, loser
@likereally14855 жыл бұрын
These are how the people at my school act smh
@True_Rarity5 жыл бұрын
The guy in the back left is awesome. Listened to everyone’s opinion even when his opposers mocked and ignored him. We need more people like that regardless of race or sex
@liizzset5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. WHy is this comment on top?
@trooperthorny97835 жыл бұрын
that is how us CONSERVATIVES are. we dont ram an ideology downs someones throat at every moment. we dont mock those that has different views than us. we listen and give them factual points
@RJMacReady15 жыл бұрын
@@trooperthorny9783 Ugh that rhetoric is so bullshit. Stop dealing in absolutes like that. Theres probably an equal amount of sensible people on each side, and an equal amount of morons. You guys have gotten so far from each other than you can never agree on anything. As a european from a country thats a longtime ally of the USA, and as someone who loves visiting your country and its wonderful people, its sad to see how divided youve become.
@anynomoussucker8235 жыл бұрын
@@RJMacReady1 lets be real here, america's society is shit lmao. Cant believe how widespread this political bullshit like everyone is a professional now.
@tnh7235 жыл бұрын
Yep. He was a classy intelligent guy who used logic and reason. The other guy asking reparations is hopelessly going down a pointless path in life
@Rashy2253 жыл бұрын
You could tell who was conservative and who was liberal just by the thumbnail. Lol
@zacknichols80135 жыл бұрын
"Why is it that we always assume that black people are broke?" Haha I love it. That guy is pure gold.
@Ac-dk9ki5 жыл бұрын
Because they kind of are?? I mean poverty in black communities is extremely disproportionate when compared to the rest of the country
@julienielsen44625 жыл бұрын
Yes but he meant the blonde girl was talking about how poor they are she got served.
@MrShizuohewajema5 жыл бұрын
@99whynot 99 bro. Want a better fact then? Simply because white people are the majority and they have more people they technically have more people that are poor than blacks XD... so yeah I think it's kinda odd they assume that blacks are poor or cant do for them selves, I think if they viewed them as the equals they say they do and not someone who needs saving 24/7 the image would be better. Also dude said that u cant tell people not to read for 200 years then hand them a book... but slavery was abolished in 1865... by the Republican party.... and they've been doing reading, writing, math, etc... to help them learn for over 50 years that i know of. Sooo yeah alot of inconsistencies.
@preflightdrip86725 жыл бұрын
@99whynot 99 um bro the first rule you learn in English is you can't call your opponent an idiot and get anything out of it. Second I'm guessing you feel that trump supporters are racist and violent yes? Can I point out a few examples to the contrary. A liberal professor was arrested after beating a kid over the head with a bike lock during a rally because he had a maga hat, the kid now has brain damage from it. A liberal politician said that areas with large amount of gun owners should be bombed. He literally suggested nuking US citizens. A Indiana university medical teacher wanted to "put down" white babies cause they "dont deserve their lives". She was fired. Point is there a racist and violent people on both side. Also has u read green new deal? It basically bans cars. You like walking and donkey carts? There's idiots on both sides too. You have AOC we got Alex Jones.
@didlydoo70295 жыл бұрын
99whynot 99 Trump was better than Obama anyway and you can thank him for that low black unemployment and a booming economy.
@chillectro48935 жыл бұрын
Why is this only 6 minutes long....?
@sunleo61615 жыл бұрын
Dj Pyromania edited
@RedAndTheCompany5675 жыл бұрын
They cut out all the good stuff.
@700joshr5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised they were able to handle 6 mins of anything close to truth.
@estray10675 жыл бұрын
@Carolina PFan Maybe it's just what I was more interested in, but I could swear the conservatives had more talking time. It was interesting to hear where they're coming from.
@batcountryboy935 жыл бұрын
Right? Just make this shit long and uncut because you just can't fit politics in a few minutes. Politics needs its time. This was interesting to watch and I wanted more.
@Bouchon2115 жыл бұрын
If Vice has any balls left at all they should release this video unedited.
@3stax1705 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@evanthompson41865 жыл бұрын
I think they learned their lesson after the Jordan Peterson debacle. But I agree, the unedited version would be nice to see.
@ToBeIsWasWere5 жыл бұрын
that would just make it a boring confusing mess
@IngaHicks5 жыл бұрын
@Literal Vampire Potbellied Goblin They cant afford to because they're laying off 10% of their workforce LOL
@simbaABR5 жыл бұрын
#vicenoballs
@audielliott Жыл бұрын
17 seconds into the debate and already pissed somebody off!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@simon64954 жыл бұрын
They get so mad for saying black people can do what they want, that’s weird
@antidelusionalpeeps4 жыл бұрын
The victim mentality is so ingrained in their heads
@mrog5214 жыл бұрын
maybe bc we’re still treated like we can’t...
@ves50804 жыл бұрын
@@mrog521 Then prove them wrong.
@xx-sx3et4 жыл бұрын
@@mrog521 affirmative action has entered the chat
@mariogonzalez51074 жыл бұрын
@@mrog521 stop it, honestly. Btw Who’s telling you these things? I’m a Mexican immigrant that struggled since day one and have made it here.You should stop expecting “reparations” or handouts or daddy government to solve your problems, you’re responsible for your own life and decisions. I’m doing quite well, have my own business and if a person from other country that speaks English as a second language can do it you can certainly make it. Hard work and discipline will get you places.
@MexicanBandit4 жыл бұрын
I’m a liberal. The conservatives killed it in this debate, absolutely killed it. The liberals seemed like a bunch of kids looking forward to being victimised in contrast.
@jakeryker5464 жыл бұрын
republican troll
@MexicanBandit4 жыл бұрын
Jake Ryker If it helps you sleep at night you can call me a republican, even though I’m not.
@akshat34224 жыл бұрын
Joaquín Solís Lol, you liberals stand for equality but not freedom of speech
@lilbear1044 жыл бұрын
@@MexicanBandit same even though I agree w the liberals.
@thelordbaltimore26174 жыл бұрын
Jaoquin! Bro you seem like a very nice person I’d like to hear your views on politics and who you vote for!
@ayushmanranjan10494 жыл бұрын
The blonde girl was like how dare they not have exactly the same opinion as me
@GloomySkiez4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly, Wanted to get my sisters 👠 & go for the 3-pointer on her forehead.
@lavenderflowers10754 жыл бұрын
@@GloomySkiez Lol! Be kind
@rantranger15274 жыл бұрын
She didn't even say anything she was obviously one of the people fooled by media and goes on the narrative of "orange man bad" but then when asked why they have like no explaination
@indm42814 жыл бұрын
@@rantranger1527 bruh I'm sure you are conservative
@mollygraves55584 жыл бұрын
she would fit in perfectly with BuzzFeed
@johnwright63118 ай бұрын
This is the BEST Left/Right discussion I’ve seen. That it was an All Black group made more enlightening for me (a 60 year old white guy who knows that the KKK is Democrats). We need much more of this level of discussion. But, we also need someone in the group who can tell them that the NAACP gave Trump an award for his Black/Minority related work. He was NEVER considered a Racist until he ran as a Republican… NEVER. Blacks loved him until then. AND, Trump did more for Blacks than Obama, Biden, Clinton, or ANY other Democrat ever. The Civil Rights Act doesn’t pass based on Democrats.. Republicans passed it. Lincoln died to set Blacks free and he started the Republican Party. Open your eyes People
@Pj_screw.4 ай бұрын
👆🏽
@patrickland4367Ай бұрын
The KKK was started by ex-confederates not democrats. How’d that Platinum Plan go? Biden had the lowest black unemployment 4.3%. I’ve got a question for you because I’m about your age and I remember what it was like to live in Orange County California during the 80’s. I lived in a conservative Republican neighborhood and I experienced a ton of racism even in my schools. Why do white supremacy groups like the KKK, Oath Keepers, Boogaloo Boys,Aryan Nation support the Republican Party and why isn’t that a dealbreaker for republicans? I haven’t heard any members from the republican party outraged about it-
@Escalusfr5 жыл бұрын
That former military guy is so much more intelligent than the others, this is crazy
@dayday30715 жыл бұрын
Are you fucking dumb
@purplevr87275 жыл бұрын
His names Rob something, he’s also gay, not sure if he said that in the vid, I’m also following him on insta he’s cool
@damiondash34655 жыл бұрын
He may sound articulate, and maybe he is just saying what you want to hear. He is the same one that said he voted for Obama because of his race. He also said that he grew up in a poor community and joined the military to get out of that situation, and thinks everyone should in that position should be able to do that. Might sound good to you but let’s just say there are other perspectives.
@prestongreenbay63365 жыл бұрын
Yea you can just tell he has done his research and knows his shit
@PatchedRoundBall5 жыл бұрын
@@damiondash3465 All he said was that there is ways out of your situation.... If you're in a shitty situation and you dont try to change it, that's on you. Basically you can have his perspective.... Do what it takes to succeed. Or you can have your perspective?
@DavidWildmouth4 жыл бұрын
There is a popular misconception: JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE VOTES FOR TRUMP, DOES NOT MEAN THEY THINK HE IS PERFECT.
@shaun87964 жыл бұрын
If there was better options than i would vote him out no doubt
@carsonc294 жыл бұрын
well the issue with that is, whenever his personal flaws are pointed out..or when he lies and its pointed out, Trump voters come to his aid and try to smooth over the stupid stuff he says or does..or in the case of the woman with the braids who claims to be christian, they try to fit him into a religious faith based man of God box that he doesnt belong..nothing about him screams "man of God"..if Conservatives would just be honest and be like "look, we know Trump is a walking POS, we know he lies, we know we would never want him as a friend, we know we wouldnt want our daughters bringing him home, we cringe with every Tweet...BUT, he is just the best option right now"...non Trump people would understand that
@makemwunder4 жыл бұрын
@@carsonc29 whats this "we" crap.....you mean YOU
@normalhuman65814 жыл бұрын
Drink Lysol
@carsonc294 жыл бұрын
@@makemwunder if you dont cringe whenever he Tweets some lie or something else ridiculous then are the very people im talking about..you obviously didnt get the context of that part in my previous message..if you're a black Trump voter, then I suppose that shouldnt shock me
@Z3phlar5 жыл бұрын
6 minutes? Vice clearly took a cleaver to this debate. What a waste.
@dontmakeme44815 жыл бұрын
Z3PHLAR, my feelings exactly. This is a debate that the black community really need to have and everybody from all races would be interested and could learn a lot by listening in. Maybe just maybe real conversation’s between all races could start to happen and come to the point where we realize that we do know and understand each other. I feel most of truly do know and can relate to each other. We are Americans that grew up together in America. Growing up in America for me color never mattered for me or my piers. Whites, blacks, browns, asians, mix was not a factor in the way we treated or viewed each other. I don’t know how all the sudden so many are acting like thats not how it was. Political propaganda is pushing us back in to division and in my opinion possibly into new higher levels divisions than ever even existed in this country.
@coffeegrinds6855 жыл бұрын
Vice is the worst, they did a sympathy piece on a South American prison, filled with cartel members and child killers
@varidian6945 жыл бұрын
Z3PHLAR it’s clear they snipped it down to the key points... personally I would rather watch the full hour or how ever long it is and decide for my self - would be nicer to see this longer
@slappadabass3290 Жыл бұрын
Liberal black woman - great twerking is the epitome of life Conservative black woman - Finances and understanding that I’m free are the epitome of life
@DrCandy-bf4iq5 жыл бұрын
Liberal: speaks Vice: zooms in on girl applauding Conservative: speaks Vice: zooms in on girl questioning his sanity
@johntorreto44855 жыл бұрын
@Christopher Llamas Lopez It should be switched around
@DanFeske5 жыл бұрын
It’s directive narrative by imagery. Typical
@bds69345 жыл бұрын
but conservative still won.
@cadenbrownell62365 жыл бұрын
Soo fax, it’s because vice is super liberal
@marybeals11145 жыл бұрын
The one thing that jumped out at me watching this was, the conservative participants were very laid back and seem to be very comfortable. The liberals were on the edge of their seats ready to pounce. They were not relaxed.
@RibbonVintageGirl5 жыл бұрын
How can they be relaxed when they get triggered over anything???
@raincitygirl1235 жыл бұрын
The liberals were also rolling their eyes and whispering to one another the whole time. Please look up cognitive dissonance. They displayed that action full blown. The liberals do not want to hear the truth.
@UniNetwork5 жыл бұрын
Too much feelings
@Ben-wk9rf5 жыл бұрын
Mary Beals exactly they give the conservatives the dirtiest looks when they are speaking
@Silverman2165 жыл бұрын
I always have chill and enjoyable dialogue with black conservatives, the liberals ones are dismissive or ready to use ad homs if you inch a bit away from their narrative
@nataliegarcia57713 жыл бұрын
Idk how people don't see that liberals don't argue using logic. They argue using feelings
@theimperfectsinger6233 жыл бұрын
This is so true. I have observed this for quite some time already. Republicans are way way very intellectual people than democRats. And I'm neither a resident nor a citizen of America.
@DavisMckenly3 жыл бұрын
@@theimperfectsinger623 that’s just depends where you live, up in north most of the republicans I’ve met were smarter, but now I moved to Florida they are more dumber than I thought.
@victoria.-.-5 жыл бұрын
Release the whole uncut video and let people make their own choice based on everything not just a small portion that you want people to see. I especially want to hear what that blonde girl has to say and how the others react to it.
@spaniardmartinez68965 жыл бұрын
@leslie Martinez ,I like your last name!!
@victoria.-.-5 жыл бұрын
@@spaniardmartinez6896 thanks :)
@milesbell53745 жыл бұрын
Totally agree.. think 6 mins is too short
@andrewflacca33295 жыл бұрын
She was the most ignorant one lmfao
@thechronic__92895 жыл бұрын
Leslie Martinez, poor black people man, they get labeled as fucking idiots like those liberal girls but really most are normal people
@mzitchbay5 жыл бұрын
Short hair girl is a clear representation of the millennial voter. Highly emotionally driven, rather than thought driven.
@hejla45245 жыл бұрын
3:54 triggered
@johngraves115 жыл бұрын
Ik she kept getting mad but couldn’t state facts or examples and isn’t talk much and is easily the most annoying there
@lightningfan14475 жыл бұрын
Also her political affiliation was listed as independent which is way off
@annacrane20405 жыл бұрын
Kim H the fact that the liberals would stop listening because they disagreed showed a lot lol
@D0NCH33T05 жыл бұрын
Exactly, this is the problem, libtards are too emotional about everything. That's why some of them like to say there's literally 75+ genders just to make themselves feel better and give certain groups of people economic advantages and shit, shits lame af...
@adrianlouw24995 жыл бұрын
Way to condense a 3 hour discussion into 6 minutes....the editing is worthless...I couldn't gauge a thing from this other than the start of a conversation here and there...
@davejones57473 жыл бұрын
I don’t agree much with the black liberals, but I do appreciate that they didn’t immediately degrade the discussion into a name calling stalemate.
@Guy-cs8yj4 жыл бұрын
If you pay attention, you’ll notice that the conservatives are not only honest with the others, they’re also honest with themselves. The liberals appear to be very wound up, and emotion-based.
@MissVisualize4 жыл бұрын
That’s how it always is.
@THAITHULEEMUSIC4 жыл бұрын
Please listen this song kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqCmlKx6rZuUgZY
@Bree01234 жыл бұрын
And when met with differing opinions they did not make snide remarks, like the woman with the blonde hair did with almost every statement.
@arthurvillarreal26504 жыл бұрын
Some want to be supported for life.
@krissmiley75194 жыл бұрын
From my experience , conservatives are much much more accepting of people with different political views then members of the left
@jasperlow96034 жыл бұрын
The girl with the blonde dyed hair really acting like the main character.
@mascara17774 жыл бұрын
@ً there are Black Pacific Islanders with natural blonde hair.
@virgoqueen92254 жыл бұрын
@@mascara1777 It’s called sarcasm
@CigaretteCrayon3 жыл бұрын
Or a villain.
@Toinkity3 жыл бұрын
*main antagonist
@irok13 жыл бұрын
"Cringe"
@joedorben35045 жыл бұрын
As a black moderate, Im very surprised with the fact that from what Ive seen, the black conservatives arent getting bashed by the comment section. All of the people in the video seemed reasonable, and at least relatively intelligent, besides the ultra-lib blonde haired girl in the front
@lj72665 жыл бұрын
People are entitled to their opinion.....
@abuabdullah7315 жыл бұрын
The welfare argument was kind of weak, especially when rich get vouchers all day .Some people truly need help
@sub-brotherhood89905 жыл бұрын
so the guys at GameStop got unhappy when trump sr said Obama loving libtards so a scripted character would defiantly hurt the blondes feelings
@chloehennessey68135 жыл бұрын
Mental Life Consultants Vouchers? My families income each year is enough so that I will never have to work a day in my life. My children’s children will never have to work. Vouchers? I haven’t received one of those from a government entity yet. Please tell me how I go about getting one.
@1984psu5 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's just me, but this did not address anything. It wasn't an open and honest debate.
@bkk77053 жыл бұрын
We as a society need to have these conversations more often but they must be controlled as you can see how indifferent each person is and want the other to believe there narrative almost forcefully this is why we must never lose freedom of speech its healthier to discuss our differences than ignore them.
@arabellastringer3788 Жыл бұрын
What are you trying to say? Ban free speech? Dictatorship much
@countcruzer5 жыл бұрын
Conservatives absolutely shredded the competition today.
@drakeevans80425 жыл бұрын
Just like every day
@gabe64755 жыл бұрын
@Mick Rath wow genuinely racist nice.
@Deaths_Beloved5 жыл бұрын
@Mick Rath We are angry cause people make us angry. Get real!
@gabe64755 жыл бұрын
@@MrEnterthehole lmao ur obviously an objective authority on psychology, talking about liberals was a dead giveaway that ur definitely not pulling shit out of your fat ass
@derivedfever8075 жыл бұрын
@Sharkz zy shut up *H E R E T I C*
@bigmcrunfast5 жыл бұрын
*Vice* : produces 45 minute documentaries about one of their staff members doing some obscure drug *Also Vice* : edits a lengthy in depth debate down to a 6 minute clip
@TheOnlyInformant5 жыл бұрын
There was a longer documentary about processing literal shit than this video.
@staarrliner49935 жыл бұрын
Sam LoDestro, welcome to left wing media.
@davidtimble13075 жыл бұрын
Its actually the Eric Andre show where nothing makes sense
@BethanyGuajardo5 жыл бұрын
6 minutes...symbolic of the beast and the psychological warfare to divide.
@joewitowski545 жыл бұрын
Knowing your audience
@brandonedwards53064 жыл бұрын
Everyone makes politics about race. It's about beliefs not skin color
@mrsbdubc21744 жыл бұрын
Right!!!
@jj-uv4rf4 жыл бұрын
lol trump has made it about race
@brandonedwards53064 жыл бұрын
@@jj-uv4rf but how
@bread13974 жыл бұрын
@@brandonedwards5306 he was being racist to black,Mexican,Chinese and many people that arent “American”
@iconspal53864 жыл бұрын
@@bread1397 sources?
@kylorenkardashian793 жыл бұрын
is there a longer version? I'd like to see this for multiple hours
@TraceguyRune5 жыл бұрын
I love how the black conservatives spoke politely and eloquently, well the black liberals spoke with malice, anger, and all around immaturity
@leahmayes24175 жыл бұрын
To me the well-spokenness and lack thereof seemed balanced between the two parties. The yellow haired girl annoyed me though and I’m a liberal.
@thiccchungo10415 жыл бұрын
Because leftists know they have stupid argument and are on the stupid side, so they just yell to stop the actually smart people from making their actually good points
@Loresmith11235 жыл бұрын
That wasn’t the case at all. Sometime when people hear a view they disagree with they become subconsciously defensive and infer emotions that aren’t there. It’s really projection. But idk you or your beliefs. I’m just offering a rationalization for your having perceived some neuroticism that clearly wasn’t there. Additionally, you can just call them “conservatives.” Everyone in the video was black, so you didn’t really need to distinguish them from the white conservatives who weren’t present. “The Black Conservatives” isn’t the name of a distinct political party, and they aren’t their own species.
@goatlandia84575 жыл бұрын
@Cali God You have so much hate and ignorance.
@becool57065 жыл бұрын
Nothing new
@Adam-sk8np5 жыл бұрын
6 minutes of soundbites and comebacks... nice "debate"
@polybian_bicycle5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was just getting interesting. And then it ended.
@Chreeves5 жыл бұрын
@@polybian_bicycle VICE is great at editing the substance out of a conversation.
@KnightofAntiquity5 жыл бұрын
@@Chreeves You honestly think random people off the street are going to say anything of substance? God forbid you ask them a historical question regarding the parties. Both would have their own versions and both would be wrong.
@Chreeves5 жыл бұрын
@@KnightofAntiquity Are you one of the VICE workers that was recently laid off ??
@KnightofAntiquity5 жыл бұрын
@@Chreeves No. But I know a fuckton more about politics and history than the average joe. Dual Degree in History and Political Science.
@shuz6y5 жыл бұрын
blonde haired girl thinks screaming proves a point. tell me i’m wrong
@straighttothep01nt555 жыл бұрын
You're right.
@angry31955 жыл бұрын
You're right.
@jessicaayo50355 жыл бұрын
Wrong
@supasanic90684 жыл бұрын
Jessica Ayo but why? You must have a reason why you believe that.
@jessicaayo50354 жыл бұрын
Supa Sanic you are correct! I do have a reason why I believe that.
@katiee13193 жыл бұрын
2:50 BAHAHAHA her face.. that was me listening to those liberals speak
@dearbrave41835 жыл бұрын
The girl with the yellow hair acts very rude and immature 🤦🏽♀️
@thicctony62365 жыл бұрын
umwali sharon I no rite it prob Becas yourdg inlaidck isus you dig!
@jayson217475 жыл бұрын
umwali sharon your ugly! No black guy would ever date you!! Sellout!!
@iamcoolalot5 жыл бұрын
so do you but i didn't say nothing until you did bitch
@nybirdman5 жыл бұрын
Yes, that’s why she’s a liberal
@tomadams35285 жыл бұрын
Yeah...I looooove her too.
@the135joker35 жыл бұрын
That chick in the dungarees had a lot to say but didn't produce anything of substance
@user-vf3cb7vk8z5 жыл бұрын
That's the leftist way. Talking a whole lot without actually saying anything.
@jadoresophya5 жыл бұрын
She's emotional.
@ericb88775 жыл бұрын
The 135 Joker my boy said DUNGAREES!!!😂😂😂🤣
@michaelcain7215 жыл бұрын
pay me no mind !!! They are dungarees tho 😂 are they not? Why’s it so funny lol 😂
@invadingminds5 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly! Typical liberal jabber jaws.
@Jonas-PD5 жыл бұрын
Very difficult to have a debate when one side is stating facts and the other giving their opinions.
@xman91905 жыл бұрын
Says the man while stating an opinion and not a fact.
@danhibbard19855 жыл бұрын
@@xman9190 , Sounded more like an observation actually
@Jonas-PD5 жыл бұрын
Xman Did you watch the same video I did?
@MKAK475 жыл бұрын
@@xman9190 How much of a moron are you?
@tomerickson78895 жыл бұрын
@@xman9190 An observation, of a fact, that was clear in the video.
@KUNTAR3 жыл бұрын
10 seconds in... "I WANT TO BE A VICTIM!"
@gloriagirgis5 жыл бұрын
Could automatically tell the conservatives from the liberals before they spoke
@falldownbeauty5 жыл бұрын
lol. right!
@wiseguy92025 жыл бұрын
Yup me to!
@shanelewis37245 жыл бұрын
I could tell by when he said "raise your hands" all the liberals look around and partially raise their hands to see what the others say, the conservatives hands either jumped up or didn't budge.
@wiseguy92025 жыл бұрын
That's the side effect of having principles.
@gloriagirgis5 жыл бұрын
@@shanelewis3724 spot on, and once they started speaking, one could differentiate by the level of emotion shown on their faces, respectively. Conservatvies = normal face expressions. Liberals = level of emotion displayed that is completely unsubstantiated by what the other party is saying. For example, the look of incredulity on the liberals' faces when Trump supporters said they voted for Trump. If their face expressions could speak, they would be saying, "What? You actually voted for someone *that I disagreed with? You actually have other opinions? How offensive."
@chrisgreekman15 жыл бұрын
Black people should have more conversations like this ! It’s an eye opener .
@davinsmith93195 жыл бұрын
Christos Anatolitis not just black people americans in general
@aliveandwell8295 жыл бұрын
@@davinsmith9319 But if white people have a conversation about black people, they are labelled as "racist"... BY THE LEFT.
@walamo47965 жыл бұрын
Jay Meehan Don’t react when they call you racist, they realize that they sound stupid asf and stop
@user-bw9ys5jc8i5 жыл бұрын
It's the only way to discuss these things without being labeled a racist.
@chrisgreekman15 жыл бұрын
Jay Meehan very true
@hmetz17875 жыл бұрын
I guarantee 100% that the conservatives dominated to the point where vice had to edit and cut out much of the discussion, hence the 6 min cut up version that we can watch here. I'm actually extremely surprised they uploaded any of this, and didnt just scrap the whole project after filming.
@nexusclarum80005 жыл бұрын
After seeing what vice did to the Jordan Peterson interview, absolutely. Vice is untrustworthy.
@Jon-ko3vv5 жыл бұрын
You guys are stupid
@Pop_Shepski5 жыл бұрын
Jon How to catch a liberal
@alexandergreat25115 жыл бұрын
Oh you can tell at certain parts of course they did
@seanlee91465 жыл бұрын
I feel like media is starting to be more open to conservative because they know the world is starting to be more woke.
@shammycat35383 жыл бұрын
I’m a black conservative literally in the intro: blah kkkhhhhghvvkkhggjbllaseeebbrryghbbbbb!”
@TMAJ0R4 жыл бұрын
Wow, the liberals didn't like taking self responsibility. How strange
@Josh980319024 жыл бұрын
Most of them never do, no matter what background, liberals only point fingers and blame others rather than solving problems like real men and women
@cameronpage90644 жыл бұрын
Liberals and victim points go hand in hand
@mr.g15784 жыл бұрын
as long as you see yourself as a victim, you'll loose
@lolipopPrincess4 жыл бұрын
Amen!!!
@solidsnake56444 жыл бұрын
I think a more apt way of phrasing this is: "As long as you see yourself as a loser, you'll always lose."
@silloweet4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@fuivz83174 жыл бұрын
Right! Everytime bloody time.
@nebuloustooth4 жыл бұрын
Exactly like at one time I realize I was playing the victim and was self pitying myself and I decided to change my ways and don't want to be that like if people don't like how there being treated or feel like there the victim just work on yourself and work on ways not to blame people and understand things better because life is about working hard and working smart and finding balance in life
@BossManSays5 жыл бұрын
Seriously why wasn't this an hour without cuts? You do honest debate a disservice by only cutting soundbites.
@ashleyhartford60485 жыл бұрын
Because they know the black Republicans are fake
@ringlordrebel3 жыл бұрын
i love how the short-haired woman thinks she’s so much more black than the conservatives, but has blonde hair dye
@jadenx1235 жыл бұрын
Show several shots about that blond chick getting triggered and huffing and sighing but she actually contributes nothing to the conversation.
@kix53655 жыл бұрын
She says that, "Trump is making the richer richer, which means the poor will get poorer." The most logical/rational thing said in this video!
@porsha17435 жыл бұрын
But isn’t that how it always is? Black people like her along will liberals like her literally have zero background in political ideology to a point where someone with actual knowledge will pose a logical question or put forth a logical thought and they fight back with slang, hate, curse words, and anger. They literally NEVER respond with common sense. It’s always hate. These liberals are triggered by everything. They legit try and preach love but all I see is anger and hate from the left side. I am disgusted at the idea that I was ever on the left side. I’ll never go back there. One of the best days of my life was the day I voted conservative here in Texas. And I’m never looking back. I’m nothing like those people. It’s disgusting. I would say I was embarrassed, but thankfully, I’m not because I know that there are other black conservatives like myself who are poised, well versed, and steadfast in our beliefs. And we refuse to be bullied by them. And guess what? I’ve never been a slave. Whaddayaknow lol.
@jadenx1235 жыл бұрын
@@kix5365 I never said that she didn't say anything. I just said that she didn't really contribued any original ideas to the video and yet vice news thought it was appropriate to show so many cuts of her just huffing and sighing and mouthing things about the conservatives. The talk about the socio economic differences is not an original idea it's not likely coined That Phrase. I'm just saying that she just contributed smiled years and yet somehow she became sort of like the hero of the video just because she disagreed.
@kix53655 жыл бұрын
@@jadenx123 She contributed the most out of anyone from this conversation. Blacks want to talk about racial discrimination and I gotta say there are very few racist liberals/ democrats... Conservatives on the other hand hahahaha 1/4 of the republican party would love to see blacks back in chains!!
@chadklevenberg59955 жыл бұрын
Ironic
@tylergnosis25815 жыл бұрын
Conservatives killed it good job using facts
@Giagantus5 жыл бұрын
There were not facts
@youtubeyt56945 жыл бұрын
Elaborating would ruin the point he's trying to make.
@TJmanGaming5 жыл бұрын
The Goat Lmao true. They’re wrong so they ain’t gonna respond
@Kap-285 жыл бұрын
@@Giagantus Salty?
@Flannel-Channel88375 жыл бұрын
Yes some liberals use feelings and hunches and state them as facts
@johnwiggins39504 жыл бұрын
Let's be real the conservatives won that argument
@ricchburglar4 жыл бұрын
For real
@elXXXXrockymaru4 жыл бұрын
What arguement. The consevatives express themselves. And the other group. Just screams. With no volume
@stevenborg1024 жыл бұрын
Conservatives always win arguments because they are not rabid moralists.
@johnwiggins39504 жыл бұрын
@@stevenborg102 not all but usually yes
@yoloking7774 жыл бұрын
yep, it's apparent the conservatives do more research and know more. They know very well why they are conservative
@WhatmoralrightdoesUShave5 ай бұрын
Would love to see a follow up with the same group of people now
@Nunyabeeswax7775 жыл бұрын
Why was it so short? This could have been hours long and still just scratch the surface of the debate!
@ariescombat5 жыл бұрын
Because vice is shook to death about you learning who the true racist is in this country and has been. They been controlling your mind thru the media for a long time. The true kkklansman. The demoncRat. The left is vice and many others. Wake up. They got you
@ergoth1545 жыл бұрын
S laRock Dems r the real racist got it lol Vice cuts videos short because they don't believe in organic real conversations, they only want to present manufactured conversations they control.
@yourlonglostbeachball59055 жыл бұрын
Cause the full thing is on HBO and this is a teaser of sorts
@squeakydeedsdonesoapclean37195 жыл бұрын
The liberals here were holding the debate down. The independents had some actually good points that could have been expanded on to show just how narrow sighted the conservatives were.
@sawfingers17505 жыл бұрын
nathaniel byrd l wish we could see the full version instead of just the heated exchanges
@AFpaleoCon5 жыл бұрын
Conservative in the blue jacket was truly intelligent. Same with the guy to the right of him.
@jesseellis51755 жыл бұрын
not more intelligent just well spoken
@KD-jb9pq5 жыл бұрын
He's just been conditioned to speak well. You ever seen a film called 'Get Out'?
@cg-wo4ik5 жыл бұрын
Jack YES. You’re goddamn right. This man or more people like him at least should run as politicians. We need his ideas in form of political representation.
@TaSk1o45 жыл бұрын
This Machine Kills Fascist lmao. I realize that the far left deals in abstractions much more than realities, but this takes the cake. Leave it to an “anti-fascist” liberal to cite a work of fiction in support of their beliefs, and to label free thinking, well spoken individuals as products of conditioning.
@tun60065 жыл бұрын
5:00 typical response from people who think they are "woke" towards people who are actually woke. It's happened to be in the middle of citing facts and reference as if I was speaking a different language.
Sucky Egg He really didn’t tho. He played directly into their argument the one liberal was saying that US politics is just picking the lesser evil which is exactly what the suit guy did. He felt hatred from the left so he chose the right, even tho liberals and Democrats aren’t real leftists. These people are incredibly misinformed.
@NyxInfernal5 жыл бұрын
That guy was able to keep his cool and for that he gained some credibility for that I suppose but it seemed his argument was based almost solely on his personal experience which is not exactly a compelling argument when trying to justify why a group of people should join a different party, mainly because I'm certain there are many others that felt hate from the conservative party and decided to become a liberal because of it.
@sweatt42375 жыл бұрын
@@NyxInfernalLiberals: "The system is rigged against black people, Institutional racism, this one black guy I know yadda yadda yadda." White Guy: "Can you point to any racist legislation?" Liberals: "Your personal experience is not the same as a black person, therefore your opinion doesn't matter." Black Conservative: "I had the same experience and I made it out." Liberals: "Your argument was based solely on your personal experience, so it doesn't count." It seems you cannot be pleased.
@Octorock485 жыл бұрын
He didn’t really make a point at all, but the liberals in this video are far to emotional and not level headed to have this debate properly.
@jeremybrown86545 жыл бұрын
Sweatt big facts. Heard the same arguments countless times.
@derekjuarez97623 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy when people think that the rich getting richer means the poor get poorer: That’s not how it works, the rich don’t get rich by making poor people poor..saying that means that the rich are taking money out of the poor peoples pocket.
@monas3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha lol I thought the same 😂
@nashhanna60265 жыл бұрын
Liberals: how do you stand with white conservatives being racist to you Conservatives: we don’t stand with racists Liberals: I heard that but let me ask the same question 3 more times
@gotnatas5 жыл бұрын
A good question to ask them is as black people how do you stand with black racists.
@David-mz5oq5 жыл бұрын
@@gotnatas dont you knwo blacks cant be racist duh.....
@gotnatas5 жыл бұрын
@@David-mz5oq . Damn. Thanks for reminding me of that.
@hydrodudes51355 жыл бұрын
😂 I laughed like a maniac at this.
@HaveButOneLife5 жыл бұрын
Because those "white conservatives" were totally "conservative". What kind of "conservative" believes in racism? These people are dumb.
@NidgeDFX5 жыл бұрын
looks like they cut out the soldier serving rant during the actual video. Probably was too good to leave in
@OBmaster5 жыл бұрын
I really wanted to see that part of the conservation played out.
@danieldeiparine16165 жыл бұрын
That short haired girl is so immature
@michaelchristopher20035 жыл бұрын
She's a clown
@Sahadi4205 жыл бұрын
Nah, just a fucking moron. Her response to "if I can do it, any black person can" was (disagreeing with him) "just because you did it, everybody can do it?!?!?!?" (0:19) LOL She can't even grasp the concept of making it as a black person. LOL She drank too much "left koolaid".
@asianmurican37395 жыл бұрын
She's not a short hair girl. She's a midget toddler.
@danieldeiparine16165 жыл бұрын
@@asianmurican3739 lol
@gibbonbasher81715 жыл бұрын
Dan What did you expect? She’s a liberal.
@hotandsoursoup26643 жыл бұрын
The businesswoman is spot-on. Your values is how you should vote. Don't look at the other party. Look at what your values are and match with that party
@rikhernandez14385 жыл бұрын
I love how the conservative girl said she was free. You go girl! You are free! You can do whatever you want
@piffcitynaledge5 жыл бұрын
Lets see how free she is driving in the middle of the night in breaux bridge Louisiana. "But im republican like u" . They gonna thank her for her vote while they beat her ass
@THEDOORIZCLOSED5 жыл бұрын
exactly. we are NOT IN CHAINS. i swear "those" types of black ppl always have this victim mentality
@Ave18215 жыл бұрын
Yes honey WE ARE FREE!!!! I’m so proud of you!!!!!!
@brightiris5 жыл бұрын
@@piffcitynaledge You're free if you think you are free in a free country. You're a victim when you think you're a victim in a free country.
@Blirvin5 жыл бұрын
The conservative girl is a hero. Runs a business and knows she is free.
@taylorvaden56755 жыл бұрын
I’m a liberal and I must say the blonde haired girl really annoyed me. She was moving around and talking while the conservatives were talking. I found that to be extremely disrespectful. Show others the same type of respect you’d want. I want to see an unedited version of this so I can better understand the context.
@Holdmybeef5 жыл бұрын
Taylor Vaden how about you liberals show the country respect and love that you were born in a free nation
@chester95845 жыл бұрын
Not a liberal but honestly, if more people were more mature like you we might not be able to have parties
@tinateews94945 жыл бұрын
Taylor Vaden If you really pay attention whether throughout this video or medias in general, the liberals are more violence and aggressive. They don't show no respect to those who seems to have different point if views.
@chrism71635 жыл бұрын
@@Holdmybeef free nation that had slaves
@aghostinthemachine28775 жыл бұрын
Too busy hating opposing opinions. Completely set against each other. Saying things like "wow he doesnt even know". Its hilarious because mankind as a whole mostly wants the same thing. The media has divided us to the point where even if we are talking about same thing with different words we hate each other. I cant stand this shit. We have allowed mainstream media sources to warp our minds. Lets learn to talk. But we gotta be willing to listen and work on the issues together. Regardless of color, politics, orientation, any of it. But people dont realise that the media is purposefully causing this hatred. The thought of people being united and colors coming together scares the shit outta them.
@world74525 жыл бұрын
A bunch of people are saying that Vice should of showed the whole thing, but Vice releasing this video is quite an accomplishment for them.
@danielwatson83585 жыл бұрын
ive been shocked, this is their 2nd video about black conservatives..
@matthewleonardi2475 жыл бұрын
They get a participation award.
@qud39135 жыл бұрын
They're trying to act in the middle when their head is so far up the left's ass.
@mmahan58205 жыл бұрын
Vise is getting woke even tho they are clearly left
@georgeorwell68995 жыл бұрын
This comment made me realize this is made by vice, I thought just by the nature of it that it was made by a channel called jubilee
@mizzphitzbeta3 жыл бұрын
The conservatives were much more articulate than the liberals. I’ll give them that lol 😂
@DomingaShataun5 жыл бұрын
This could have been WAY longer 😒
@bradlap90465 жыл бұрын
Dominga Shataun this SHOULD have been way longer
@f677395 жыл бұрын
at least vice is doing less sex worker stoner fetish degeneracy articles
@josephk15895 жыл бұрын
Its just for the novelty. They don't actually care what these people think
@Ricsic64 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or did even a black liberal president do absolutely nothing for black people...
@isabellahorne62844 жыл бұрын
100% correct.
@puraqua.76264 жыл бұрын
Nobody did, that's why we're here now.
@BenNuProductions4 жыл бұрын
@@puraqua.7626 Ever heard or a guy named "Abraham Lincoln"? 🤦♂️
@kingeling4 жыл бұрын
@@BenNuProductions I don’t get it, you libtards consider him a hero but at the same time you accuse him of owning black slaves? Lmfao
@BenNuProductions4 жыл бұрын
@@kingeling How am I a "libtard" from my previous comment? WTF 😂😂😂 Quick History lesson for ya: Lincoln was a Republican... Do you even know what the definition of an actual "liberal" is? I bet you have it wrong and that your definition of a "liberal" is based on the crazy left of current day 2020. So when you said "libtard" you actually mean a socialist/SJW/woke idiot (which I am most definitley not).
@crazy1speed5595 жыл бұрын
I’m a black conservative and I feel like Vice edited out a lot more than what they should have in order to make the black liberals seem more on an even playing field.
@tmanstheman5 жыл бұрын
I thought the opposite. I think we should create our own political party cuz both the Democrats and Republicans have blood on their hands. It's time for us to have our own representation.
@tmanstheman5 жыл бұрын
@@alyciagoode4115 yeah that cool but I think we have many qualified candidates to represent our race. We shouldn't settle for the lesser of two evils anymore. It's time for us to create our own representation. We get so hung up on the idea of being either right or left but we never make a push for black or brown. Fuck both the Democrats and Republicans. Like they said black are just their leverage. It's time for to be independent.
@crazy1speed5595 жыл бұрын
tmanstheman I don’t think we should be making political parties based upon race alone. Shit like that is how nazi Germany got started
@tmanstheman5 жыл бұрын
@@crazy1speed559 the Nazi were created out of hatred and believe that their the master race. That's not what I want or talking about. Blacks have created their own political party before. Thing like NAACP or core has a rose from black independent thinking. It's like womanism. Womanism is a movement that similar to feminism but is for minority females. The belief is minority females have struggles and issues that feminists do not talk about. Like for example being sexually harassed by police officers in inner cities. Or that black female are more likely to be violently sexually assaulted then white female. I just think that their is no one better to representative then us. A independent party for black and Brown is what I dream of. It's a very Marcus Garvey like idea. But it'll never happened because it's a dream.
@sillykids65075 жыл бұрын
They probably just edited the crying and screaming for sound purposes
@VideoJunkee2 жыл бұрын
Vice with a separate, but equal, political debate.
@siafan68645 жыл бұрын
Not all conservatives associate themselves with Trump though.
@JJ-kd5mx5 жыл бұрын
And I’m upset this wasn’t brought up more. I have seen so many conservatives, and people on the right in general, condemn Donald trump. To me, seeing that makes me question EVERYTHING in terms of conservatives, and whether they truly stand for trump or are actually just that delusional
@internetalpha51735 жыл бұрын
Same I'm conservative but not really a trump supporter
@filippians4135 жыл бұрын
I love Trump but I disagree with the name calling and bullying. He is no saint. He is more of an anti-hero than a conventional hero.
@Lalala-fz2ci5 жыл бұрын
Sia Fan try vise versa. I’m independent but I LOVE Trump, voted for him in 2016 and will again in 2020 💁🏽♀️
@josea01215 жыл бұрын
What do you consider conservative?
@tomhocking56065 жыл бұрын
You could tell the girl with the blonde-dyed hair just wasn't willing to listen to anything that didn't align exactly with what she believed smh
@onajitetaire5 жыл бұрын
SpankBuda huh?? Please get that stereotypical bs outta here
@aln87025 жыл бұрын
@SpankBuda you're the reason some blm hipster is going to go to Twitter and tweet "racism is alive and well in our country, they think we're all stupid" all because you decided to be edgy today. The "anti-sjw" retards are the same bullshit as the SJW retards.
@tomhocking56065 жыл бұрын
@@aln8702 I think the way to stop racism is to forget about it completely. Otherwise people will continue to only see race and be racist towards each other. Also people need to take a joke sometimes 😂
@eqborn5 жыл бұрын
@@tomhocking5606 what? Nah man. Intelligent talking about it brings people together in the end
@tomhocking56065 жыл бұрын
@@eqborn I just meant in everyday life, I agree that we need to discuss more serious racism intelligently
@joyfaith17115 жыл бұрын
Being conservative does not mean you agree with Trump. Don’t get it twisted.
@greenkidd5295 жыл бұрын
They did showcase that not all conservatives in the video voted Trump.
@Omegeddon5 жыл бұрын
Makes sure conservatives know that because a lot of them have forgotten
@ebolahookernightmare65205 жыл бұрын
I didn't vote for Trump. He is doing better than Obama and better than Hitlery would have done. Similarly I did not vote for Bush but he was not as evil as Al KKK Gore or dipshit John Kerry the Iran regime's puppet.
@UrbanDecayLova2475 жыл бұрын
I can understand and am open to listening to black conservatives...anyone supportive of trump is ignorant or delusional to me though PERIOD regardless of their race.
@jimchumley65685 жыл бұрын
Joy Faith Very wise comment.
@ghengisk79813 жыл бұрын
Black conservatives ❤️ notice that democrats go conservative, never the other way around.
@Its_just_zell5 жыл бұрын
When my mans in the blue jacket said "why we always assuming black people broke", that disspelled all excuses.
@benboudreaux36815 жыл бұрын
That was money.
@borgtennis5 жыл бұрын
Mic Drop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@moisesvillasenor93225 жыл бұрын
He ended the argument there
@HIGHLIFE014145 жыл бұрын
Fr damn he ended the whole fucking debate
@ninagrace-lee83235 жыл бұрын
How was this a mic drop? Statistically black people are more likely to have lower individual incomes. And lower household incomes. So. It’s an assumption because reality lines up *tilts head in confusion*
@TheBlackAmericana5 жыл бұрын
The fact that black millennial conservatives exist is amazingly refreshing...
@maxchase5 жыл бұрын
Hoosier On The Run- Travel Vlog notice how they are generally more successful too
@jedgodfrey44545 жыл бұрын
@Father Lion As a conservative I'm gonna ask you to not call someone stupid because they believe different things than you. Nobody's mind gets changed like that.
@blademarz85245 жыл бұрын
Monyette Milner i think you meant that for liberals😂
@blademarz85245 жыл бұрын
Monyette Milner this may sound messed up, but I believe black people have been enslaved again but not in he way most would think, they’ve been mentally enslaved by the media, feeding them all these lies and using there emotions to push there own agenda. Literally what obama did, 2 terms and he didn’t do jack shit for the “black community” all he did was divide the country even more. There are just too many double standards, I would say currently the main targets of racism would be conservative blacks or white people cause they’re white and we automatically wanna kill and enslave every dark colored human. Why didn’t anyone get mad when Obama proposed the wall, or when he shutdown the government for 17 days to force Obamacare down our throats
@prestokrs15 жыл бұрын
Refreshing? Interesting word choice
@HighLineOrBust5 жыл бұрын
I'm just glad to see the 2 sides having a grown up conversation without name calling.
@thehurts92165 жыл бұрын
No, I agree. If I say with a bunch of my friends (all whiteys) and discussed this stuff someone would end up throwing fists or having a mental breakdown. This group of black folks seemed fairly authentic across the political spectrum and managed to stay civil even with radicaly polarized perspectives and beliefs. Definitely refreshing to see people discuss rather than hate.
@jnav86385 жыл бұрын
Best part was that 1. This video was actually made by a major platform and 2 . They get up and get along afterwards. We are all people. I bet the liberals were eaten by there own people after they posted the pic with the conservatives.
@X_IncognitoBandito_X5 жыл бұрын
Madd Dogg right? Dialogue is dying these days. It’s now called “ I don’t want to argue or your wrong so I’m not talking to you “
@d.w12782 жыл бұрын
I searched up liberals getting owned and this showed up 👀