Black Sabbath - The Shining (Ray Gillen Vocals, mastered version)

Song 5 of 8. See "Glory Ride" for more details about these particular Ray Gillen-Sabbath demos.
Enjoy!
Update: These demos are now featured as bonus material for the remastered Eternal Idol, which has been out for about 6 months now as UK release.

[@christophercaffery6029]

I remember when Ray brought this rough mix to our management office. We were both managed by David Krebs and Paul Oneill at the time. Ray played us a few of the new songs from this record. The first anyone had ever heard them. I still have that cassette that Ray gave me! We were good friends even before he got the Sabbath gig. He went to play this song and looks at David who was in his sunglasses on his couch and said “You will really like this one it is Very Black Sabbath. “ David paused and sarcastically said “That’s important Ray, when you are doing a Black Sabbath record!” 🤣🤣😇🙏

[@gulanhem9495]

Cool story bro. No source or anything.

[@bosdepokutalmis]

@@gulanhem9495 he is the Chris Caffery dumb ass, Savatage guitarist. Savatage did some records and gigs with Ray Gillen

[@bosdepokutalmis]

Thanks for sharing this with us sir

[@gulanhem9495]

@@bosdepokutalmis Your the dumass. How should I know?

[@GorGob]

This is Seventh Star.

[@Phil_Trujeque]

Bob Daisley's bass is phenomenal on this track. The man's one beast of a talent!

[@DarksaberForce]

Really he stayed with Sabbath. Would've been cool to see him and Cozy reunited on the future albums. Plus being a great songwriter would've brought a lot to Sabbath.

[@stevewalker7165]

The best songwriter and bass of ozzy

[@loveloveandhatehate]

When isn't Bob Daisley bringing it lol 😂 he's a beast!

[@georgeabrams7345]

This incarnation. Under rated.this rocks.

[@Phil_Trujeque]

@@stevewalker7165100%

[@randallbrooks5787]

I don't care who you are, if you don't love the late Ray Gillen's voice there's something wrong with you. He had the most awesome, angelic, operatic voice in music history! He was a true legend! RIP!

[@chicosinquerer4572]

So true! Man what a voice!! Ronnie j and Coverdale at an instant!!

[@djtebeau]

What a talent no doubt, Geoeff Tate comes to mind!

[@earlsworld70117]

Ray sang so great because he was castrated by the Jesuits!

[@michaelleblanc5578]

So true....Goose bumps hearing this.....Amazing voice!!!

[@shirleystos6700]

[@MMMUpdates]

You can certainly hear RJD's influence on Ray's interpretation of this melody line. Especially in the lower register vibrato. It is so classy for them to release these demos and let people hear Ray in his early days.

[@riadlo1]

The late, great, Ray Gillen…that voice…WOW

[@AdamYoudell]

It don't get no better than that my friend. Pure talent and mastery of the human voice

[@andysurvival346]

@@AdamYoudell yeah, the diaphragm technique is perfect - the best, I have ever heard. I hear no weaknesses. Maybe, because of his native American heritage ;-)

[@TheUnbreakableOtaku]

He has. The Deluxe Edition of The Eternal Idol has the Ray Gillen mix on the second disc. You should definitely go and buy it, support the non-Ozzy albums so they'll be sure to give the rest of the Martin albums deluxe treatment.

[@nidiasmith7367]

Where can I get the CD?

[@thewreckofisgard6380]

@@nidiasmith7367 amazon or EBay

[@nidiasmith7367]

@@thewreckofisgard6380 Amazon

[@robertl.wilson1199]

After 12 years. . . . finally

[@VictorMatheusJaccoudFaria]

I have news

[@Belseful]

Ray Gillen was absolutely one of a kind....damn he could sing...

[@andysurvival346]

He used the opera singing diaphragm technique, thats why he never ruined his voice. Treated his talent with respect. As a native American should ;-).

[@aribergeron]

This version is so much more haunting than the original. Holy shit! Amazing. And by no means am I dismissing Tony Martin's work. This is just incredible.

[@ny7294]

This IS the original

[@one_with_kevrything9825]

Maybe I'm just a Tony Martin stan, but I find the version on the record a bit better, not that this isn't quality, too.

[@robertraymond6643]

Much better, IMO. Top #5 Sabbath tune all-time (if I exclude Mr. RJD)

[@Gmanrushfan]

Both were phenomenal singers… I’d say Tony had a bit more depth and power in his lower range, where as Ray had a bit more sweetness in his upper range… but it’s just being nitpicky about two of the most amazing Rock voices I ever heard.

[@TheOldBoy101]

@@ny7294 what happened to Ray ?

[@joelscheinzeit1848]

Ray was a friend of mine back in the early 80s , he's the father of my dear friends daughter, Ashley, who looks just like him RIP RAY

[@georgeabrams7345]

Nanos. Thought he was related to Ian gillan

[@mr.timebombman2230]

Ray was the reason that this is the best post Dio record. When Tony Martin re-recorded the vocal tracks, he kept Ray's melodies and most of the lyrics. Both great singers of course.

[@jayrusnak]

All the lyrics, since Bob Daisley had written them in the first place and he was still there.

[@jonathanwpressman]

TM did what he could.

[@robertraymond6643]

Yup. Martin's versions are OK, but Gillen's are just awesome! Not really fair to Martin, as these were not written for him and his talents. Gillen's Eternal Idol recordings make this possibly the best post Dio record.

[@retrogamingguitarist5961]

It's nice to see Sabbath giving Ray Gillen some recognition by releasing these demos on the deluxe set of this album.

[@aldersmoke1]

+Retro Gaming Guitarist They would've given him recognition back then if he hadn't quit the band. It's not like he was kicked out.

[@JuanLopez-sm8mn]

aldersmoke1 freaking great 👌

[@djtebeau]

Retro Gaming Guitarist Gillen bailed, this was his project to own as I heard it? The band sounded much more Sabbath like with Gillen than the final polished version, taking nothing away from Tony Martin or his work on this album!

[@chrisslooter2825]

Say it again... what you just said, say it again!

[@mark_beastpriest5539]

It's worth getting the deluxe expanded edition of The Eternal Idol just to get the bonus disc of the original album cut with Ray Gillen.

[@artvandelay4485]

This version with Ray is a top 5 best Sabbath songs of all time. Flawless.

[@j.reveille6815]

Eternal idol the song with Ray singing is up there with the classics.

[@cgj72]

A true classic

[@robertraymond6643]

I may have to agree. If you remove the Dio songs, Ray's version of The Shining is probably my #1 Sabbath song

[@alxtnt57]

ray gillen was incredible on this.. it would have been epic if they got along and he stayed awhile

[@daver5907]

The Shining is one of my favorite Sabbath songs from this era. I can’t hear it without thinking of Tony Martin’s version though. I’m glad I got to hear Ray’s version.

[@kevinousley8678]

Ray was truly amazing. He is sadly missed. He could have been a legend.

[@KittenBasher69]

I can't believe how many stages of Black Sabbath exist. They created an enormous library of rock and roll.

[@2e0rlrrod23]

I thought Tony Martins version was good but this is EPIC!

[@richardblanchette5962]

Yes ! Ray Gillen was definitely a better singer than Tony Martin !

[@billgeezeriommi]

@@richardblanchette5962 yep no doubt about that

[@Glory7RedemptionPrincess]

No doubt , Ray was the best .

[@robertraymond6643]

yes, no contest.

[@bernardoa.garciah.2316]

Tony's guitar sounds so much better here than on in the finished album! True Sabbath sound!!!

[@thequinnster72]

Agreed. I’ve heard demo versions of songs from Dehumanizer w Powell on drums. The unpolished versions always come off better than the produced w Sabbath, IMO.

[@cw1722]

The Gillens are forever a part of Sabbath. And great contributions I must say

[@PEDROCLASSIC]

Two Sabbath killer vocalists now gone. RIP Ray and Ronnie. i just realized that.

[@larenzofaltner3810]

As unwelcome the news may be, I have heard that Ozzy may join them soon. Ozzy needs our love and prayers.

[@askledhead]

Ray was a killer all right

[@poppycock6572]

Man, I thought that I was a Ray Gillen fan... Tony Iommi is my favorite heavy guitarist and Ray is one of my top three favorite vocalists... and I never even knew he was with Sabbath?!?!? Feel like a total fool... this is outstanding stuff!!!

[@VictorMatheusJaccoudFaria]

he was on the 7th Star tour after Glenn quit because of his demons. See the Sheffield and Nottingham Bootlegs around, he can do the Ozzy and Dio stuff effortlessly, probably the best singer on BS in terms of pure talent.

[@daveverplank]

Holy crap, he could sing.

[@policyjunkie3312]

He actually fit perfectly with sabbath

[@kevinousley8678]

Ray should have been a legend. Too underrated since his time was short.

[@andysurvival346]

Maybe he was underrated because there was no Devil in his voice ;-)

[@semmcstevenson]

Dead at 34. AIDS. Brutal. Probably from a needle.

[@Ciclopea2]

So haunting and angelic, he was amazing and it saddens me that he's no longer gracing this world with his voice, RIP Ray Gillen.

[@garybarnhart7529]

I have sung for fifty tears this guy was better than anybody I ever saw . Hands down I have seen thousands of bannxs

[@johnstrychalski915]

R.I.P. Ray Gillen. 🙏👊🤘

[@Fongolitus]

I saw this band in 1986. Probably the best singer they ever had, My favourite incarnation of the band, and My favourite Black Sabbath song.

[@lupeverdin555]

Awesome Vocals! ✨️🤘 Long Live The Legend Of Ray Gillen!

[@davemieze9021]

This is the best vocalist ever. And I never knew Ray sang on any Sabbath. I was obsessed with Tony Martin in the 90's, Badlands as well and to hear this amazing Ray Gillen vocal on one of my favorite albums is just killing me. His voice is everything that I wish I could sing.

[@harryurz]

Not only a great singer, but Bob Daisley on the bass!!!

[@KHayes666]

and Eric Singer on drums....imagine the greatness if this lineup stayed together.

[@dionsanchez3106]

+harryurz Bob Daisley great. But only one Geezer. Any other questions?

[@dottlingerbassplayer5009]

Daisley is my Bass hero!

[@littleheath1666]

First saw Bob Daisley perform in 1970 performing with Khavis Jute. He is an outstanding bass player.

[@DDDINC420]

Bob was brought it to some extent to help write lyrics, as Gillen was not very good at writing

[@bobthebear1246]

What a truly amazingly talented singer Ray Gillen was. It is such a shame that he had to be taken from us at such a young age. R.I.P.

[@yelenamal]

i like Martin a lot,but this is fantastik Gillen s voice almost perfect

[@bumpyroad3251]

It's sad Ray Gillen (RIP) never released an official LP with Black Sabbath - this way he would have gotten some of the recognition he deserves.

[@paulcerminara3107]

What Ray did with Jake e Lee and Badlands is eternal. 2 if the greatest albums ever.

[@ericfrey2866]

Yes I know but even better that only an inner circle knows Ray's greatness

[@andysurvival346]

Ray with his Native American heritage is the best of all times. Period. Love your singing technique😘

[@Vinylrebel72]

Damn, Ray was an INCREDIBLE singer and one of the greatest of all time. A master!

[@jc2091]

Gosh, the original version of this song helped get me through some very dark times way back there somewhere far from here. This version is just as good, if not better. Very powerful vocals paired with truly incredible band.

[@michaelkeudel8770]

This is the original version, you just got the re-recorded version released 20 years sooner.

[@mpoukoma]

i suppose that many who listen the gillen and martin version agree that both are great vocalists

[@robertstanfordcam2649]

Indeed

[@richardblanchette5962]

In my opinion Black Sabbath should have go on with Gillen , He is way better than Martin !

[@robertstanfordcam2649]

@@richardblanchette5962 he was awesome... but Martin was great... alive Ray was better... Tony is a great Studio musician....

[@djtebeau]

What a God given voice that was!

[@Bob-tp3nx]

Best pure singer Sabbath ever had hands down.

[@nidiasmith7367]

What voice. This time I have never heard voice like the late Ray Gillen.. the legend.

[@juniorpontes4620]

Mr. Raymond Arthur Gillen Rest In Peace 🎵🎼🎤😭🙏

[@Moleplay]

Much better then the official version in my opinion. Sounds much more like Sabbath. The regular Tony Martin version sounds to clear. Its missed the doom atmosphere.

[@liamp1217]

I agree, I wish this one was on spotify

[@robertraymond6643]

Agree! Gillen's versions are just incredible.

[@ADDISON857]

30 ans plus tard, ré-écouter cette merveille , est un vrai bonheur♥️La fluidité de la voix magique de RAY reste incomparable🙏Dommage qu’il n’y ai pas assez de vidéos sur scène, car il mène l’ambiance 🤷🏻‍♀️tjs en 2024💋♥️

[@drummer7557]

Ray Gillen had the smoothest high range vocal delivery I’ve ever heard in my life. Yes, even smoother than Dio. It was just so effortless especially when he was 🎉🎉with badlands.

[@vz3336]

After 15+ years listening to this version and the part between 3m15s and 4m still amazes me. What a voice...

[@Germanpublis]

+Diego Torres This part remember me Russel Allen's voice !!! Allen & Jorn Lande could record this cover .....

[@briansays2286]

Miss you Ray⚡

[@hilanocarvalho3945]

He is amog the greatest metal singers. What a head voice range !

[@j.reveille6815]

I used to sit in at the rehearsals for the band Rondinelli he was in before this. He could blow you out of the room without a mic. I was there …. James Lorenzo bass player for white lion, Dave Roth, megadeth was also in the band at the time . Great memories. 1984-5 I guess….I actually was the one who picked Ray up at the train station coming in from jersey to Long Island a few times…. We would burn a J and talk about black sabbath sometimes talk all music but Ray told me Sabbaths first album with the rain and the bell hooked him to music forever. The Rondinelli album is on Spotify. It’s great and you can hear Ray kick ass as usual. Teddy rondinelli was def instrumental in Ray really working a soulfulness into the heavy Range and delivery of his voice and coached Ray a lot in early stages BUT Ray was a natural.

[@j.reveille6815]

Lomenzo

[@billluddington3309]

ray was wicked!

[@BeardedGuitar]

If the phrase "it's the only way" doesn't get you...nothing will...wow...Ray....damn man.

[@TheUnbreakableOtaku]

I honestly can't decide whether I prefer the Ray Gillen or Tony Martin mix of this album. They're both so great in their own way.

[@richardblanchette5962]

For me it's easy to decide, Ray Gillen is way better than Tony Martin!

[@jonathanwpressman]

The production on this mix is better. Martin was a better fit for the band overall.

[@gulanhem9495]

Tony Martin is better, a bit darker, more metal.

[@goofyblud]

Definitely this one. I love tony Martin but he makes this sound like a 2000s cartoon network theme song

[@cgj72]

Ray…by a landslide

[@dioivanov]

A big Tony Martin fan here, but this version is equally good. Buying the Eternal Idol deluxe edition with the two versions is a must.

[@joelombrdo]

Great song. Ray had a great voice. RIP.

[@ADDISON857]

That is music‼️2021, un pleasure listening Ronnie, Ray, Tony, Glen, Ian💥👍rest perfect and always actuality’s 🔥The best years bands, musics and singers🙏🎶❤️RAY💋Brings CHILLS, Emotions 💥Rise up to the Shining🙏🖤RISE UP, RISE UP, RISE UP🤷‍♀️🎶RISE UP, SHINE💥🔥

[@mauricioleme7658]

Fantastic . Ray gillen the voice . Rip

[@adamhyman7319]

I don't even know where to begin. I miss the hell out of Ray Gillen and Badlands. I've loved Sabbath forever and really thought Tony Martin did a great job on this song-until I heard RAY singing it. Oh my god-could this man sing! After hearing this I miss his awesome so recognizable vocals. God bless Ray Gillen-may his voice live on 4 ever. 🤘🏻

[@powerpooch2000]

my sentiments exactly RIP Ray

[@bigstick5278]

Ray Gillen and Badlands Were Bad Ass in concert. One great voice gone.

[@HCH8598]

Tony Iommi + Ray Gillen: Power Metal.

[@BLITSNAAREA]

Ele foi um cantor incomparável, não tem como comparar o vocal que ele fez, com a versão do Tony... simplesmente sensacional, na parte da caída então muito feeling...sensacional. R.I.P. Ray.

[@felipemileo]

you're absolutely RIGHT! Ray hit the nail on the head! Perfect!

[@Filmetal7]

Verdade. Ele era muito foda mesmo

[@jamesigou9033]

I never realized that Tony was following Ray's lead here. This is the first time I have heard this material.

[@lahloonatic]

The bass is killer on this version.

[@alxtnt57]

Just revisited this after a few months ....Unbelievable Ray Gillens vocal ability !!! Wow the stuff and truths we discover as time moves on!!! Incredible

[@davemieze9021]

I’m disappointed that I’m the only one commenting yet again. This sooo badass. Put yourself in the early 80’s. This art was going on when Poison was popular. Embarrassing. This is bad ass.

[@carlosmarin9560]

La mejor version por un master Ray 😃🎧😎🌞👿😈👊👊👊👊💣🔥💀☠️👿😈

[@appalachiansufi5649]

In terms of raw talent and ability, Ray was the best singer the band ever had.

[@robertraymond6643]

Along with RJD, I agree.

[@davemieze9021]

I listened to this 3000 times before I heard Rays version. And it’s better. All the way around

[@joint2joint2k]

Ray owns this one.

[@danpasa627]

this is the best version of this song.

[@silentqueue2344]

Whether Martin or Gillen, this is Sabbath's best non-Ozzy, non-Dio song.

[@panzervalkyrie9299]

Would have to disagree, give Headless Cross a listen . “ When death calls” Just epic!. But Ray is my favourite 80s era heavy rock singer. For 80s metal ,Halford.

[@davemieze9021]

Silent Queue Hope ur still listening. This is gold. Tony and Ray era Sabbath is just soo good.

[@scottbrouse3747]

This is Sabbaths best singer or at least tied with Dio but seen him live and he is better than this live

[@scottbrouse3747]

Sucks Ray died of AIDS due to one shared needles encounter with Heroin

[@mickeyguide3112]

@@scottbrouse3747 yes, that is really tragic. According to Jake E. Lee one heroin shooting with he's uncle ( Nelson Bellper who died to Aids) was the reason Ray got that damn disease. Would have loved to hear more of he's singing with George Lynch, ' Flesh & Blood' is such an epic song 🤟😎

[@chrisslooter2825]

This is hauntingly classic.

[@churchmouse2146]

I think of “ ghostly “ as an apt word also .

[@OrestisTrips]

Those effortless highs...this guy had it all. Gone way too soon.

[@jerryquintal2216]

Ray Gillen was the greatest of all time. Octives and all ranges of vocals. There was none like him, miss you. Through his music he will never be forgotten....

[@edwardleonetti2492]

Man could you imagine if Ray had stayed and sang on Headless Cross ? A lot of those songs seem like they would have been tailored for him

[@TheAdam159]

I like Tony Martin, and I actually spin his Sabbath albums more often than I do Ozzy or Dio's ones these days. But this mix is better than the final album one. Not just Ray's vocals, but the guitars too. Iommi sounds amazing here too

[@theaxis2000]

I worship Dio, but to me Martin is the best Sabbath vocalist ever!

[@SuperLuckao]

yes, he gives a very 80s sound..dio tends to be too theatrical imo

[@TheBimmerfan]

+Larry Mccarty Guy, this is not Tony Martin, this is Ray Gillen (RIP) - the best vocal Black Sabbath ever had, unfortunately for a short period.

[@jorgearevalo4135]

Ray Gillen fue uno de los mejores cantantes de hard rock heavy metal de todos los tiempos pero solo estuvo un periodo muy corto de tiempo en Sabbath asi que es imposible decir que fue su mejor cantante cuando ni siquiera tiene un álbum editado con ellos. por esto a mi también me parece que Tony Martin ha sido su mejor cantante en estudio no asi en vivo donde Dio ha sido claramente el mejor.

[@BazookaToe]

Sorry, but Ian Gillan was the best singer Sabbath ever had.

[@megabraddotcom]

This is fucking awesome. Thanks for posting this :)

[@ADDISON857]

FANTASTIC SONG,👍WONDERFULL RAY💕i love him💋

[@nidiasmith7367]

what amazing voice. great singer for a life time. Legend! wow!

[@ADDISON857]

I’m like « The Shining » , Awesome Ray💋I’m Listen this with Tony Martin, and you are two great for the version 👋💋

[@nidiasmith7367]

Ray voice is amazing, I can listen to him all day.

[@davidtrahan3062]

Thanks for sharing this 🎉

[@ADDISON857]

Tony it’s long time with Sabbath, Under Vocalist, no so long. 🙋🏽‍♀️Ray, Tony , Ronnie... so great🙏Voice different‼️

[@davemieze9021]

Ray Gillen Ladies and Gentlemen

[@neruni]

The Eternal Idol with Ray Gillen on vox must be released! True Black Sabbath fans deserve it!

[@REIRBL]

Very good!

[@renatovivaldo5460]

O melhor vocal do Black Sabbath de todos os tempos! The best vocals of Black Sabbath of the all times forever!

[@jorgeluiz3151]

Concordo, a voz dele é algo raro, límpida e poderosa ao mesmo tempo, RIP Ray, um dos melhores vocalistas que tive o prazer de ouvir na minha vida!

[@daveq2234]

Could sing 🎤 our ray Gillan such a loss

[@irishshredrecords]

Bob Daisley wrote the words to all of the songs on Eternal Idol.

[@brentalanadamlandgrave7635]

You can tell it's a demo...but what a demo!!

[@kellymckee3002]

Ray could do it live or recorded he was amazing. Martin did a great job picking up the pieces but live nobody touches Ray !!!!!!

[@davecigano6748]

Sensacional mesmo com o passar das décadas.

[@joe-ti8cj]

First time hearing this, ❤

[@vaneipontes3824]

Mr. Raymond Arthur Gillen 🎤⚡🔥😎🤘👊

[@BexyFF]

Ray Gillen - the best :D

[@policyjunkie3312]

David Coverdale is my favorite and I would argue one of the best singers of all time but ray I would say was maybe the best.

[@dottlingerbassplayer5009]

Bob Daisley. Awesome as ever.

[@harbo1011]

Bob Daisley wrote all the lyrics on this album. He also wrote most all of lyrics on Ozzy's first 4 solo albums. The man gets no credit except for people that really know. WTF

[@eliseomilito5141]

One of my favourite albums !

[@diegodz7510]

Ray, what have we lost ? we have lost a *huge soul* and a great voice, too

[@jcs6881]

Just amazing......great voice .......

[@mdwayne741]

Ray was a great singer. I am a huge fan of his Badlands stuff!

[@johnlyell1282]

Also wanted to mention about this album: Outstanding Guitar Riffs Outstanding Vocal Melodies Outstanding Vocal Performance Put these three things together and you have an album that stands the test of time....which this one has !!

[@scottbrouse3747]

Best Sabbath Singer

[@georgeabrams7345]

He does sound like dio.

[@G3_666]

After Ian and Dio

[@robertraymond6643]

Ohhhhh... I'd go RJD first, Gillen second.

[@ootr8584]

LYRICS (Instrumental Intro) There's a man who sees all there is to see, and what the future holds for all As the days grow dark with a sole and final warning Beware of the one with invisible friends, he will steal into your mind And all too soon the signs begin to show, oh! Rise up, to the shining! Live long, live now! Rise up, to the shining! Don't be blind be fools again! (Fools again...) As the pages turn and the story's told, all the visions he had seen The house on the hill with the haunted eyes that call No one laughed as madness came out, to play its game If you stay too long, you'll finally go INSANE! Rise up, to the shining! Live long, live now! Rise up, to the shining! Don't be blind by fools again! (Fools again!) (Instrumental) Bells will take their toll, on your way, ohh... There's no way we're meant to shine, before our time... All your life, you're on your own, lonely road, lost in a time Let the light lead your way to the golden throne It's the only way... (Instrumental) Rise up, to the shining! Live long, live now! Rise up, to the shining! Don't be blind by fools again Rise up, to the shining! Live long, live now! Rise up, to the shining! Don't be blind by fools again, ohh! Rise up, to the shining!! As lightning steals your mind... Fear no evil, as the vision is true! We share reflection, to power our power to shine! I said rise up! Shine! I said rise up, rise up! Shine! Ohh, ohh! Shine! (Ohhhh...) Rise up...

[@vaneipontes3824]

Thx For Posting Lyric 🎤⚡🔥👊💪😎🤘 Great Singer Criminally Underrated 🎤🔥😎