Black Sea Attacks: First Russian Submarine Lost In War Since World War Two

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H I Sutton

H I Sutton

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@thomaskositzki9424
@thomaskositzki9424 Жыл бұрын
No frills, no professional speaker, just pure, analytical information. Ahhh, what a relieve! Please don't ever stop. 🙂
@chadhaire1711
@chadhaire1711 Жыл бұрын
Artur is the biggest liar on you tube.....Russia jumped from 200,000 to 1.3 million troops and this fake channel says they had 9,000 that were not qualified? Who cares. Ukraine went from 400,000 in 2022 to 65,000 in June..and lost 45,000 in the past 3 months.....Russia has 140 million population, Ukraine had 32 million but 12 million have fled out of the country.....Ukraine has no more men to draft. This channel is full of crap and u r gullible....
@BugInABed
@BugInABed Жыл бұрын
This is truly one of the most underrated channels on KZbin. I genuinely get excited when I see a video from you in my feed. Pure expertise, no bullshit, and opinions either backed up by fact or labeled as opinions. Even though your videos are unscripted, your professionalism and expertise shine through every time. Thank you very much for what you do.
@HISuttonCovertShores
@HISuttonCovertShores Жыл бұрын
thank you!
@brianomalley7501
@brianomalley7501 Жыл бұрын
I agree he doesn't get enough credit for what he does
@NerdishNature
@NerdishNature Жыл бұрын
seconded
@Soul-Clutch-Man
@Soul-Clutch-Man Жыл бұрын
Wtf I didn’t even realize it was unscripted. I could never pull of content like that, Id have to spend sooo long preparing a script otherwise it would just come off as incoherent rambling
@huleyn135
@huleyn135 Жыл бұрын
I think it's rated exactly where it should be. Writing a script and not hemming and uhhhing is not that difficult. It really sounds ass.
@Ganglo-Saxon
@Ganglo-Saxon Жыл бұрын
Your work is quite remarkable mr Sutton ! Thank you very much
@HISuttonCovertShores
@HISuttonCovertShores Жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@mrkeogh
@mrkeogh Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you qualified it as the first Russian sub lost in combat since WW2 because you'd easily get lost in the list of Russian subs lost through mechanical failure and incompetence since WW2 😬
@BonesyTucson
@BonesyTucson Жыл бұрын
shots fired lol
@randomuser5443
@randomuser5443 Жыл бұрын
@@BonesyTucsonmore old torpedoes kaboomed
@theraven7456
@theraven7456 Жыл бұрын
😂 so truth
@Spacey_key
@Spacey_key Жыл бұрын
​​@@JK-gw1yfthere were 9 Nuclear submarines lost in history, 7 of them were Soviet/Russian, Americans lost 2 nuclear and 2 non-nuclear ships, these 7 ships that USSR/Russia lost are not even the half of their overall non combat loses after ww2, so for a god's sake, shut the f@ck up and just accept that Russia sucks at maintaining and operating submarines, you won't dodge that by pointing at the west and saying that they lost submarines too
@justinchen8583
@justinchen8583 Жыл бұрын
@@JK-gw1yf In total the united states has lost 4 submarines since WW2, none after 1963's Thresher. In total the USSR lost 16 submarines, and Russia lost 2 after the end of the cold war. In the time between the sinking of the thresher in 1963 and the fall of the soviet union, the soviets lost 9 submarines.
@mike2228
@mike2228 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video and analysis - thank you for getting this out so quickly. Can you please add 20 seconds of outro slide to your videos so that KZbin recommendations don't take over the screen when you are showing maps?
@HISuttonCovertShores
@HISuttonCovertShores Жыл бұрын
Noted!
@stevegentilly726
@stevegentilly726 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this superb video, and filling in all the small details that we don't normally get. Great job Mr. Hutton and hope to see more!
@nooboftheyear7170
@nooboftheyear7170 Жыл бұрын
Erm... its Sutton, not Hutton 🧐
@xcrockery8080
@xcrockery8080 Жыл бұрын
@@nooboftheyear7170 I think His Utton.
@teeanahera8949
@teeanahera8949 Жыл бұрын
H I Sutton
@MM22966
@MM22966 Жыл бұрын
First Moskva, now this. Russia is setting all sorts of records for this conflict. I hope the US Navy is taking notes about the need for in-depth missile/drones defenses around forward ports like Guam.
@josephpadula2283
@josephpadula2283 Жыл бұрын
I hope Japan is!
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 Жыл бұрын
@@josephpadula2283Japan’s been investing a lot in missile defense. Drone proliferation suggests we would all be wise to start investing in lightweight mobile gun systems as well. You’ll need something a little better than a Toyota will a 20 mm cannon strapped to the bed…but probably not that much more.
@scrag0416
@scrag0416 Жыл бұрын
I really liked your style of commentary of this as you not only described what the picture showed you allowed yourself the leeway of briefing only what you thought and not as if it was cast in stone. You also used a variety of sources to help give a more complete picture. I subscribed and liked! Well done.
@idv1328
@idv1328 Жыл бұрын
Wow, don’t think that will buff out.
@BigSmartArmed
@BigSmartArmed Жыл бұрын
So it'll be cool when Russia, North Korea, China, Syria, Iran, and India actually strike back. Where you at?
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins Жыл бұрын
its always suprising how few warships have been in actual combat since ww2. even between ww1 and ww2 there were incidents all the time
@chillxxx241
@chillxxx241 Жыл бұрын
It is believed the Chinese lost a nuclear sub last month.
@dmitryhetman1509
@dmitryhetman1509 Жыл бұрын
In Cold War time were many incidents, also Britain vs Argentina
@Saffi____
@Saffi____ Жыл бұрын
I think you mean the Gulf War as that is the most recent use of a large naval force.
@apersondoingthings5689
@apersondoingthings5689 Жыл бұрын
USA vs Iran. Although it was really proportional
@keithsimpson2685
@keithsimpson2685 Жыл бұрын
The US navy is the biggest waste of Money in US history TBH. Barely used overpriced rusting hulks we barely train people to drive. Need like 1/5 as many ships so we can actually run them effectively.
@legion6277
@legion6277 Жыл бұрын
Storm shadow...well done Ukraine 🇺🇦 👍
@charliemyres5450
@charliemyres5450 Жыл бұрын
Easily the most informative channel on KZbin regarding the war.
@ActionPanda-g5n
@ActionPanda-g5n Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your little YT dissertation on the Kilo class and now thankyou for putting this together so quickly. You must be finding the current events very interesting.
@superdupergrover9857
@superdupergrover9857 Жыл бұрын
Hmm. Seems like Ukraine could easily corner the market on USV's once the war is over. After all, they have they have the most demonstrations of successful use in combat.
@AakeTraak
@AakeTraak Жыл бұрын
That was really an improvment of the KILO class.
@spxram4793
@spxram4793 Жыл бұрын
Yes. A smokescreen was added, which it was missing direly.
@FuriousGeorge421
@FuriousGeorge421 Жыл бұрын
The Ukrainian improvement or the Russian improvement?
@TonboIV
@TonboIV Жыл бұрын
Speed holes. They make the sub sink faster.
@itsmeagain7825
@itsmeagain7825 Жыл бұрын
​@@TonboIVI loled
@rjmun580
@rjmun580 Жыл бұрын
I consider this to be one of the few channels whose reporting I can trust.
@00tree
@00tree Жыл бұрын
It’s insane how badly the Russian navy is getting hit by a country with no navy.
@largol33t1
@largol33t1 Жыл бұрын
I find it hilarious that they've been humiliated by a country that lacks a navy. The Ukrainians have shown that drones WILL have a permanent presence on the battlefield from now on. Slava Ukraini!
@T--wk9oe
@T--wk9oe Жыл бұрын
@@largol33t1 I think the Russians have shown that kamikaze Lancet drones are the worst nightmare for the Ukrainian army
@timsmothers8740
@timsmothers8740 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great information and content. I came over and subscribed on the recommendation of Captain Sal at what's going on with Shipping.
@shaun469
@shaun469 Жыл бұрын
Nice work mr sutton. Ive followed your website and naval news for a few years now.
@HISuttonCovertShores
@HISuttonCovertShores Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated
@pyalot
@pyalot Жыл бұрын
This special military operation is getting special expensive…
@sinfulgrace
@sinfulgrace Жыл бұрын
Are you American? Because if so yes it is, $125 Billion Plus for 5 Square kilometers of land gained back.
@pyalot
@pyalot Жыл бұрын
@@sinfulgrace $125B is the total US military spending on ukraine. This is equipment donations, not money, and a lot of it is hand me down equipment, surplus, mothballed, or soon to be exiting service. The number is far lower for actual equipment the US needs to replace. And it makes sense for the west to spend that money, because compared to Nato budgets, it is an absolute bargain. The total amount of recovered territory by ukraine is about 50% of what russia took, and granted gains have been slow recently, only a few dozen to a hundred square kilometers per week, but they are happening, steadily. However, that isnt all that matters. Ukraine was bleeding russia badly while russia was on their offensive, that is expected. But now ukraine is pushing and in a historical first of warfare, ukraines losses on the offensive are about 1/4 of what russias are (on the defensive)… It is a war of attrition, and Russia is being outspent 5x over and being efficiently out fought on the battlefield, while at home in russia the economy is in freefall and it lost as many able bodied men to expatriation as it managed to recruit. It is a slow grind, until it suddenly isnt, and then the russian federation will splinter into many pieces, many of which will be fighting each other.
@mduckernz
@mduckernz Жыл бұрын
@@sinfulgrace5 square km? LOL no Kharkiv and Kherson are massive areas. Many, many more than 5sqkm
@societyreborn33
@societyreborn33 8 ай бұрын
This aged well lol. Is there a return policy on our $? We'd like a refund
@pyalot
@pyalot 8 ай бұрын
@@sinfulgrace that is the budget option. If it becomes ukraine being captured, anual NATO budget will have to go back to height of the cold war gdp percentage -> $2-3 trillion increase. The budget deal doesnt last forever…
@KiloGramNo1
@KiloGramNo1 Жыл бұрын
Was waiting for this video, great analysis as usual\
@The_Brozilla
@The_Brozilla Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this breakdown since the BDA photos dropped, excellent as always.
@allenstratton5399
@allenstratton5399 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your hard work and your perspective.
@mbc6008
@mbc6008 Жыл бұрын
This is definitely a excellent channel I stumbled across by accident. Thanks!
@guidor.4161
@guidor.4161 Жыл бұрын
I always very much appreciate getting some detailed, reliable and objective information!
@HarryWHill-GA
@HarryWHill-GA Жыл бұрын
Where did you find the picture @4:13?
@chamonix4658
@chamonix4658 Жыл бұрын
loved the sound of those missiles hitting home, music to my ears
@micfail2
@micfail2 Жыл бұрын
It's pretty gross that you're pro-nazï
@johnh8615
@johnh8615 Жыл бұрын
Nothing like the sound of thunder in the storm.🤣
@NM-wd7kx
@NM-wd7kx Жыл бұрын
​@@micfail2the sub was ruzz man, the Ukrainians won this one
@Neuttah
@Neuttah Жыл бұрын
@@micfail2 my congratulations to Russia, for finally managing to kill a Nazi in its denazification operation. 23rd of August was one hell of a day.
@micfail2
@micfail2 Жыл бұрын
@@NM-wd7kx exactly, ukrainians are the ones whose government is openly pro-nazï and has a number of Nazï officials and government organizations. I'm surprised you don't know that, they don't even try to keep it a secret. Even the legacy Media was talking about it until a couple of years ago and it's only gotten worse since then
@kevincook1018
@kevincook1018 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Another way to attack the vessels in dry dock is simply to attack the casion (a.k.a. dry dock door) with USVs. Ships in a maintnenance availability typically drop all watertight compartmentation used at sea. Also, odds are high that work will involve at least one hull cut or hull valve removal. So, breaching the casion will likely result in sinking the ships in a flooded dry dock. This will make them not useful for many months. This is not as foolproof as hitting them with missiles but much cheaper if the USVs can penetrate port security.
@g412bb
@g412bb Жыл бұрын
These dry docks are not directly connected to the open sea. They are within the harbor and USV's would need to pass certain (probably guarded) choke points and obstructions which would make it very hard. Just check the location of these docks in Sevastopol and you'l see the barriers & choke points
@PrintScreen.
@PrintScreen. Жыл бұрын
@@g412bb can't forget the trained dolphins lol
@kevincook1018
@kevincook1018 Жыл бұрын
You make a good point. In my country, dry docks are assumed industrial infrastructure and are afforded an order of magnitude less protection than active military ships in a Naval base. This may not be the same arrangement in Crimea. @@g412bb
@kevincook1018
@kevincook1018 Жыл бұрын
Yes, the dolphins will carry the day!@@PrintScreen.
@fred6319
@fred6319 Жыл бұрын
sinking the ships in a flooded dry dock. LOL ships in dry dock rest on bloks they can't sink
@stingray427man
@stingray427man Жыл бұрын
1st heard about your channel from Aaron, thank you for your insight. Highly under rated channel. Glad you make videos occasionally 🤙👍
@HISuttonCovertShores
@HISuttonCovertShores Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@falcon8553
@falcon8553 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I truly enjoyed the unscribited information given. One gets tired of the videos with written material that seems to be one sided. I enjoyed the presentation. Thank you.
@T15Medic
@T15Medic Жыл бұрын
Sutton, because of your (suspiciously) timely KILO class video, I was in a position to explain to my social circles what had happened and gave a broad Idea of what this meant for Ukraine/Russia. I really appreciate the work you do, in such a space where gathering sources and information is not as trival for obvious reasons.
@cactuslietuva
@cactuslietuva Жыл бұрын
So basically a single diesel sub got rekt out of 64 or how many and a landing craft.
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 Жыл бұрын
@@cactuslietuvaRussia’s functional submarine fleet isn’t nearly that big. And the reason the the loss of the Minsk is so huge is because Ukraine is beating the hell out of the land bridge & The Kerch Bridge, the only two other options Russia has for resupply to Crimea besides the landing ships that are already in The Black Sea. So yeah, it’s a big deal.
@cactuslietuva
@cactuslietuva Жыл бұрын
@@grahamstrouse1165 maybe if Russia had lost Borei class then your argument has some merit. Kilo class is small diesel sub which Russia has 64. Also wouldn't Ukraine needs a navy to even attempt to attack Crimea?
@jajanka10
@jajanka10 Жыл бұрын
​@@cactuslietuvaUA can only do a land attack. If russians in Crimea are starved of the good stuff- anything that cannot be carried by infantry- rockets, arty shells, AFV's- then a slow, grinding attack is a very feasible thing. Also, no Sub, much less 60+ of them are making past straights in Turkey on a regular basis.
@killingtimeitself
@killingtimeitself Жыл бұрын
@@cactuslietuva Ukraine doesnt need a navy to attack crimea, in fact they have already been attacking crimea. Modern naval warfare doesn't require a significant traditional navy. Now if russia were actively and properly patrolling with their navy fleet. This may be a different story.
@SwarmerBees
@SwarmerBees Жыл бұрын
Minor nit, but actually the naval facilities were not captured because they were at the time of the invastion in 2014 being rented by the Black sea fleet. However their lease was to run out in 2017, according to the Soviiet Union Partition Treaty and the Kharkiv Pact.
@Circa1664
@Circa1664 Жыл бұрын
What a terrifying op it must be to take and hold something so isolated as an oil rig.
@gurglejug627
@gurglejug627 Жыл бұрын
yes, scaling a totally unused rig which's taking has no strategic, tactical or practical value whatsoever must be gutting - even if the photos are indeed recent, which is certainly not proven.
@Soul-Clutch-Man
@Soul-Clutch-Man Жыл бұрын
Hopefully they aren’t holding the platforms.. UA doesn’t have the reach to defend such an isolated position.. would be a waste of such talented personnel
@cactuslietuva
@cactuslietuva Жыл бұрын
abandoned oil rig that has zero value. i mean pointless photo shoot for western media 'victories'
@hphp31416
@hphp31416 Жыл бұрын
seems it's main goal was to deny russian use of those platforms with early warning radars, electronic warfare and reuleing/rearming point for helicopters@@gurglejug627
@MikeRyzhikov
@MikeRyzhikov Жыл бұрын
@@Soul-Clutch-Man They removed air defense and radars, making Crimea wide open to attacks from west.
@BasedHadrian
@BasedHadrian Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this video
@johnpublic6582
@johnpublic6582 Жыл бұрын
I don't think it is controversial to say that the Russian Navy is the most professional of the Russian armed services. The Russian navy is losing a naval war to a country that does not have a navy. I think we lost something in translation. When Russian military was ranked 2nd in the world, it seems they meant not worst, but one better than worst. 2nd from the bottom.
@V-ns7iy
@V-ns7iy Жыл бұрын
You can die if you get bitten by mosquito in your sleep. I
@larry_ellison
@larry_ellison Жыл бұрын
Quality quality so much quality to this video. Thank you
@johnnymacaroni9738
@johnnymacaroni9738 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video Mr. Sutton , can you please cover the new recently unveiled north Korean submarine ?
@HISuttonCovertShores
@HISuttonCovertShores Жыл бұрын
Eventually. Check out www.hisutton.com/North-Korea-Submarines-Compared.html and www.hisutton.com/North-Korea-Submarine-Hero-Kim-Gun-ok.html
@HairyBogTrotter
@HairyBogTrotter Жыл бұрын
Fascinating as always. Thank you!
@paulschrum4727
@paulschrum4727 Жыл бұрын
At TI 4:26, for the Minsk, it looks like the entire superstructure just blew off like a tank turret.
@jamespope2840
@jamespope2840 Жыл бұрын
Just subscribed just found your channel it's always a good thing to get as much news as possible so I can weed out the B's from the truth. You just said something about all the other countries that Putin is trying to get involved with his war. Great job keep up the good work. Thank you for your time.
@Andrew-su9rk
@Andrew-su9rk Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel... nicely done!
@HISuttonCovertShores
@HISuttonCovertShores Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@aaronstreeval3910
@aaronstreeval3910 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what the two krivak class frigates are doing I’ve seen and heard nothing about their involvement in the war. Are they in use?
@HISuttonCovertShores
@HISuttonCovertShores Жыл бұрын
Pr.1135M KRIVAK-II Class frigate Pytlivyy has been operating in the Black Sea, particularly escorting high value Russian gov ships. It was there when Ukrainian USVs attacked Sparta-IV on Aug 18, and another USV action near Kerch Bridge on Sep 1 (unconfirmed). See timeline www.hisutton.com/Timeline-2022-Ukraine-Invasion-At-Sea.html
@willemkaret1568
@willemkaret1568 Жыл бұрын
I like your factual briefings. Thanks for the effort.
@Oosh21
@Oosh21 Жыл бұрын
Winning the Naval war without a Navy. 🇺🇦💋👨‍🍳
@wadewilson6628
@wadewilson6628 Жыл бұрын
Killing civilians so Zelensky can buy another mansion.
@WimsicleStranger
@WimsicleStranger Жыл бұрын
@@wadewilson6628 Cope harder, tankie 😁😁
@DARKSTAR-mn8ee
@DARKSTAR-mn8ee Жыл бұрын
Unus Exitus 🇷🇺. 🇬🇧😱😭🇺🇲😱😭😭🇺🇦.....💀🪦😁👍
@DARKSTAR-mn8ee
@DARKSTAR-mn8ee Жыл бұрын
Ucraina gallus canum...🇺🇦💀
@DARKSTAR-mn8ee
@DARKSTAR-mn8ee Жыл бұрын
🧐🇺🇦 Naziukropnato Mementos, Et non morieris.💀🪦
@Ed_in_Md
@Ed_in_Md Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video. You really tied it all together in simple terms.
@silentseawolf
@silentseawolf Жыл бұрын
unscripted and unedited if fine by me, your videos are very comprehensive and easy to understand.
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane Жыл бұрын
Always worth watching.
@danibee3735
@danibee3735 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes, the only way I remember these are unscripted and unedited is that you keep reminding me lol.
@jst4curiosity704
@jst4curiosity704 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, on-point information from a legitimate knowledgable source!
@war-painter
@war-painter Жыл бұрын
Great stuff, love your channel. You originally inspired me to start painting the Russo-Ukraine War with that first USV strike on the Admiral Makarov, seems so long ago now. Thanks much for your in depth knowledge and reporting.
@aymonfoxc1442
@aymonfoxc1442 Жыл бұрын
Cool. Do you have an online presence?
@RetroJack
@RetroJack Жыл бұрын
That's interesting - I'd love to see your work!
@Fliping187
@Fliping187 Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and I love the work you do. On that note I just found a blip on FIRMS @ 45.377 , 30.926 in the black sea. Not sure if that's normal or not..
@deckape714
@deckape714 Жыл бұрын
Thanks good to here from you on current events
@evan6901
@evan6901 Жыл бұрын
First time here, surprisingly, I love the uncut “chat” style. I appreciate your insight, well done.
@hisdudeness8328
@hisdudeness8328 Жыл бұрын
The dry dock itself didn’t receive much damage, however, a good portion of the repair equipment around it was damaged or completely destroyed. Most of that stuff was made in the West, so Russia will have a very hard time replacing them.
@matthew____879
@matthew____879 Жыл бұрын
not to mention the time to get the wreckage out of the dock
@sinfulgrace
@sinfulgrace Жыл бұрын
"Most of it was made in the west" File that under "Shit I made up".
@erikcrouch7881
@erikcrouch7881 Жыл бұрын
@@sinfulgrace Prove him wrong 🤣
@kuunoooo7293
@kuunoooo7293 Жыл бұрын
Not particularly a "hard" time but its just anoying. Also i dont think its build in the west
@DARKSTAR-mn8ee
@DARKSTAR-mn8ee Жыл бұрын
Unus Exitus. 🇬🇧😱😭🇺🇲😱😭😭🇺🇦.....💀🪦😁
@Praktical_
@Praktical_ Жыл бұрын
Great video H, always love your work 👍
@benwarnock
@benwarnock Жыл бұрын
Please upload more, mate
@garygranato9164
@garygranato9164 Жыл бұрын
any news on the ccp sub explosion ?
@PwnstarUK
@PwnstarUK Жыл бұрын
I’m genuinely disappointed, I thought you were going to go into the Missile tactics and the damage on the photos to the sub. I’ve seen on other channels they used a wave of s200s to activate Russian air defences,behind which were harm missiles to kill said air defence, when they lost a few air defences they turned off the rests radars and coming up the rear were storm shadow missiles that then get a free hit on the sub. Also the usvs were attacking the ships at the same time to occupy their crews, so they didnt get to shoot anything down. The Russians got taught a lesson. Brilliant tactics. I have questions.. Was this a nuclear powered sub? Can they just crane it out or will it need breaking up. Would people be on the sub in dry dock at night.
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 Жыл бұрын
Kilos are diesel-electric. They’re very good d-e subs, btw. They don’t have the endurance that AIP d-e’s possess but they have a lot of hard-hitting weapons.
@Evan_Bell
@Evan_Bell Жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thanks Mr Sutton!
@HISuttonCovertShores
@HISuttonCovertShores Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@mcgherkinstudios
@mcgherkinstudios Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen a slightly higher resolution vesion of that BDA shot and it appears that the hit on the Rostov-On-Don actually hit the dock bottom just under the bow. The shock/flying masonry then appears to have torn apart the relatively flimsy bow dome. Whilst that’s going to put the boat out for a while, I wouldn’t say based on that alone that the submarine is a total loss, more that it’s likely that they will have to do a USS Connecticut style job on it.
@hphp31416
@hphp31416 Жыл бұрын
keep in mind reparing submarine within range of enemy fire might be difficult
@mcgherkinstudios
@mcgherkinstudios Жыл бұрын
@@hphp31416 Absolutely. At best, it’s out for the next year or two and therefore the rest of the war. And I suspect it will be hit again eventually. But for now I wouldn’t be bold enough to call it a total loss as I’m not sure from the imagery it’s recieved a direct hit.
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 Жыл бұрын
Which Russia doesn’t really have the capacity to do in Crimea. If they leave the Rostov in the dry dock they’re down a dry dock for the duration of the conflict. Problem is they don’t really have a way to move it in one piece, either. Submarines with big holes in them are notoriously difficult to float. They’ll probably end up having to break it up in place & salvage what they can for their other Kilos.
@baadaaboriginalcorporation819
@baadaaboriginalcorporation819 Жыл бұрын
Excellent introduction. Subscribed already.
@lokischildren8714
@lokischildren8714 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@HISuttonCovertShores
@HISuttonCovertShores Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@mhick3333
@mhick3333 Жыл бұрын
Great presentation !
@HISuttonCovertShores
@HISuttonCovertShores Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Irobert1115HD
@Irobert1115HD Жыл бұрын
considering how submarines are constructed and how they work i would say the submarine is likely a total loss.
@NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek
@NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek Жыл бұрын
Fascinating!!! Thanks!!!
@silverhost9782
@silverhost9782 Жыл бұрын
The Chally 2 has been avenged
@shaunmcdaniels2460
@shaunmcdaniels2460 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good video.
@callumthorsen5474
@callumthorsen5474 Жыл бұрын
Is it a combat loss if its in dry Dock?
@shuathe2nd
@shuathe2nd Жыл бұрын
If your enemy put a ruddy great hole in your boat, I don't think it matters where the boat was at the time. Pearl Harbour and Taranto were both surprise attacks on boats in port so a similar scenario, and they are all combat losses.
@Trek001
@Trek001 Жыл бұрын
"Is it a combat loss if its in dry Dock?" Well, if the ship is in commission and was refitting which it is/was, then yes... Its a combat loss
@marcofava
@marcofava Жыл бұрын
Yes it is much in the same way that destroying or damaging an aircraft on the ground is a combat loss
@tompiper9276
@tompiper9276 Жыл бұрын
They had a Kilo class submarine?? Are you sure this wasn't an attack on a museum?
@janwitts2688
@janwitts2688 Жыл бұрын
A palpable hit... the end of the beginning for the Black Sea fleet
@Vulcano7965
@Vulcano7965 Жыл бұрын
You mean the beginning of the end
@Neuttah
@Neuttah Жыл бұрын
@@Vulcano7965 Crimea might as well be an island and Ukraine seems hellbent on not letting it slide. This stuff will drag on for a while. I'd say describing it as the end of the first act isn't that far off.
@rustyneedles3743
@rustyneedles3743 Жыл бұрын
Yes, haven't you heard, Russia is surrendering tomorrow, unconditional surrender, this has really shook them to their core! Ukraine wins! ... 🙄
@BigSmartArmed
@BigSmartArmed Жыл бұрын
You really want to die in a WWIII as soon as possible, don't you? Russians might as well launch all the nukes because West is so suicidal there's no point anyway.
@janwitts2688
@janwitts2688 Жыл бұрын
@Vulcano7965 Nope.. they are now trapped.. The 2nd stage will involve their wholesale slaughter.. Then there will be the beginning of the end.. the 3rd stage where the few survivors are hunted down..
@CosmosNut
@CosmosNut Жыл бұрын
Highest Regards, thank you for this upload, with corporate "news" timeliness is suspect, here on your channel a blessing!!. All the best to you and again Thank You.
@1337flite
@1337flite Жыл бұрын
Thank you - love you work Mr. @HI Sutton. Ive wondered for a while if Storm Shadow will eventually be used to take out the Kerch bridge from the Black Sea. It seems the most logical way to take out the bridge. When the first "truck attack" on the bridge the video evidence and the post attack photos (two spans dropped at opposite ends) didn't support that and I wondered if it was air to unmanned surface vessels, and I feel like an air attack or attacks will have to be undertaken to drop the bridge. Removing SAM platforms such as surface combatants and shore based systems presumably makes that much easier as well as having the other obvious benefits, freedom of movement, deny Russian commerce/logisitics ships access, reduce missile attacks on Ukraine. The Naval battle will obviously be key in taking back Crimea, but I think it is increasingly clear that it how important it is for the land battle in the east and north of Ukraine.
@1337flite
@1337flite Жыл бұрын
​@nuttywalls8190 - I cry foul because Russia invaded Ukraine. Ukraine can't really commit a foul in defending or regaining their territory as long as they stay within the laws and conventions of warfare. If the UK invades Russia then Russia would be entitled to attack London Bridge if London Bridge was being used for military purposes. So no in the same circumstances if Russia attacked London Bridge that would be reasonable. Of course the chances of Russia being able to carry out a sucessful atack against London Bridge are low. They couldn't even invade a neighbour with essentially 40 year old military technology. But it would be humourous to see them try.
@1738Creations
@1738Creations Жыл бұрын
@NotMe605 Russia didn't invade ukrainazia, it's a liberation of the US invasion. Since 2014, continuing today, the ukrainazis have been launching daily rocket attacks on their civilian Russian population. Thousands of children killed in schools and playgrounds with no instigation from Russia. They're just evil. The memorials for which have been scrubbed from Wikipedia. That's called propaganda. This happened AFTER THE US INVADED ukrainazia in 2014, executed the government and put in place their own puppet regime. The regions who democratically voted for independence were ignored and the attacks on civilians began. Russia sent peacekeepers but were told not to interfere. For 9 years they had to sit back and watch civilians being executed by the US, UK and NATO for simply wanting independence from Europe. The last straw was in September 2021 when NATO confirmed they would post nuclear weapons in ukrainazia. The most corrupt country in the world who had been attacking Russian civilians for 8 years, fully signed-of and approved by NATO. The Minsk agreement was signed by Germany to make ukrainazis stop the attacks. The Germans ignored the agreement for 9 years after 2 arbitrations. Europe doesn't care about its people. They flood their country with terrorists and illegal migrants, giving them everything they want while their own population starve. Or freeze because the UK and US blew up Nord Stream 2 to kill off their own people. Russia cares about Russians and freedom. They haven't even taken their gloves off yet. But you wouldn't know that because you're a fkn dent head who watches BBC Propaganda.
@T--wk9oe
@T--wk9oe Жыл бұрын
@@1337flite I would like to draw your attention to the fact that the United States has never fought with countries that had S 300 air defense systems. Even Iraq in 2003 did not have these air defense systems. The S-300 is capable of easily shooting down fourth-generation aircraft. There is no information about the fifth generation. So, Ukraine has the largest number of C 300 units after Russia. This automatically means that it is impossible to use aviation as the United States did in Iraq.
@driveline1325
@driveline1325 Жыл бұрын
Superb Mr Sutton
@stuartthornton3027
@stuartthornton3027 Жыл бұрын
It must have made quite a change to Russia loosing a sub to warfare.
@johntyson1958
@johntyson1958 Жыл бұрын
excellent overview, kudos
@macnadoodle
@macnadoodle Жыл бұрын
First sub lost - and it wasn't in the sea at the time! Actually hilarious.
@timblack6422
@timblack6422 Жыл бұрын
Extremely interesting, thank you
@gilbertroberttuahuru4715
@gilbertroberttuahuru4715 Жыл бұрын
A well job done Ukrainian soldiers, more Russian subs to create new reefs for the fishes at the bottom of the black sea. Glory freedom to the Ukrainian soldiers and people,the world.
@JessWLStuart
@JessWLStuart Жыл бұрын
Thanks for presenting this!
@heazheaz6105
@heazheaz6105 Жыл бұрын
I can see evidence of fire in the vicinity and obvious damage in some places. I don't know that we can say that the sub is heavily damaged from these photos, possibly though. We certainly can't say the sub is lost, especially when it's sitting in a drydock.
@ropeburnsrussell
@ropeburnsrussell Жыл бұрын
Subs are fragile, any damage is serious damage.
@Vulcano7965
@Vulcano7965 Жыл бұрын
There looks to be a piece of the sub missing.
@marcpaulus6291
@marcpaulus6291 Жыл бұрын
Its a submarine, every kind of damage must be taken serious if russia dont want another kursk. Even if its not destroyed it will be taken out for months and most likly will get hit by another strike.
@Neuttah
@Neuttah Жыл бұрын
Once it's built, you kind of don't want your pressure vessel to be heat-treated again. I winder if the double hull might offer any protection in this case, though.
@heazheaz6105
@heazheaz6105 Жыл бұрын
@@ropeburnsrussell I understand that and can agree that a simple pipe leak can be serious. So, I can agree on the heavy/serious assessment but lost? Extensive repairs, sure. It might be lost, but this photo can't determine that.
@lzmj84
@lzmj84 Жыл бұрын
After watching your video the other day then seeing these attacks. Was very much hoping you'd make this video
@m.streicher8286
@m.streicher8286 Жыл бұрын
No single WW2 sub loss ever felt so bad
@BigSmartArmed
@BigSmartArmed Жыл бұрын
And the price for that is the type US can't afford.
@rick7424
@rick7424 Жыл бұрын
​@@BigSmartArmed???
@skip1383
@skip1383 Жыл бұрын
@@BigSmartArmed Cope and seethe
@BigSmartArmed
@BigSmartArmed Жыл бұрын
@@rick7424 US is collapsing from the inside, and now US is directly implicated in a attack on Russian soil. Pentagon took over StarLink and used it for targeting and guidance correction to attack a Russian military port. Russia has a legal Casus Belli to begin military operations against ANY US assets anywhere in the world.
@WimsicleStranger
@WimsicleStranger Жыл бұрын
@@BigSmartArmed The US is fine. How's Russia handling it? I saw a report that due to lack of maintenance as a result of sanctions, your civilian airlines are starting to suffer. Just the other day an airplane had to land in a corn field!
@jeffthompson-dd8kp
@jeffthompson-dd8kp Жыл бұрын
Absolutely stellar research great presentation
@politicsuncensored5617
@politicsuncensored5617 Жыл бұрын
It has to be extremely embarrassing for Putin's Russia to have lost so many warships in 18 months to a country "Ukraine" that has no navy~! How many ships has Russia now lost 20, 21 or more? Slava Ukraine. Shalom
@ThembinkosiMpepho
@ThembinkosiMpepho Жыл бұрын
That's possible when you have others gang up on you
@politicsuncensored5617
@politicsuncensored5617 Жыл бұрын
There is no cry in war and for sure when you start the war and lose it. Shalom@@ThembinkosiMpepho
@jamesrowland2002
@jamesrowland2002 Жыл бұрын
your audio is so quiet i can barely hear it on headphones on the loudest setting possible. Whatever program you use to make vidoes, look for something like 'normalise audio' or use some plugins to get the audio closer to 0db without clipping, limiters, compressors etc.
@ronmaximilian6953
@ronmaximilian6953 Жыл бұрын
For a country with virtually no navy, Ukraine has certainly done a very good job of hitting the Russian Navy. A storm shadow missile has a 450 kg broach warhead, which could cause significant damage to any submarine. I would be very surprised if the Rostove in Don ever becomes operational.
@cultureshock5000
@cultureshock5000 Жыл бұрын
it helps to have nato and the us nave do all the heavy lifting and all u have to do us push teh button on a missile battery to make it look like you fired something, ....you realize the stopry about moskva cant be true either it takes 7 or 8 missiles to overwhelm their close in weapons.... it was lost due to bad dc not anything ukraine did...
@skunkjobb
@skunkjobb Жыл бұрын
@@cultureshock5000 Yeah Ivan, cope harder!
@cceste6885
@cceste6885 Жыл бұрын
@@cultureshock5000 still has a hole in it though, I don't really give a shit how it got there
@Peizxcv
@Peizxcv Жыл бұрын
All Ukraine did is lying dead on the ground for journalist to take photos so Biden can still sell this war. All the intel, equipment, soldiers, planning are all NATO. My country have people volunteered to fight in Ukraine and reported it’s all mercs doing the actual heavy fighting because Ukrainian soldiers aren’t trained enough to use their own equipment let alone donated one with instructions all in English
@BigSmartArmed
@BigSmartArmed Жыл бұрын
Ukraine does not exist, it's a proxy of US-NATO, and the price for that is collapse of the West.
@Magnificent2600
@Magnificent2600 Жыл бұрын
Cool video, great information. It could be me but man your voice is so soft I can barely hear you.
@matthewhuszarik4173
@matthewhuszarik4173 Жыл бұрын
I am truly glad Great Britain and France have given Ukraine more long range attack capabilities. I wish other nations including the US do so as well.
@gurglejug627
@gurglejug627 Жыл бұрын
why? Do you relish the prospect of WW3 and seeing your children burned alive in front of you?
@richglenn3729
@richglenn3729 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, as always. Thank you.
@RafterPigeon
@RafterPigeon Жыл бұрын
Excellent work. Thanks.
@valac7820
@valac7820 Жыл бұрын
Glad my country is giving more of those type of missile to ukraine 🇲🇫
@JosephASorrentino
@JosephASorrentino Жыл бұрын
Do you think there were kaiiber missiles on board the sub?
@alphana7055
@alphana7055 Жыл бұрын
Kilo class doesn't have balistic missles, idiot.
@pavel9652
@pavel9652 Жыл бұрын
Even if there were, they would be unloaded since it was in dry dock.
@petertimowreef9085
@petertimowreef9085 Жыл бұрын
Se-vas-TO-pol, I really appreciate you're making an effort to get it right, thanks. Also thank you for this video, I was hoping you'd make one about this incident. It's not hard to find information about it online, it's hard to get information you can depend on though, and your expertise and experience enables you to sift through all the noise and paint a pretty sharply outlined picture to your viewers. Thanks!
@XOZBDomains
@XOZBDomains Жыл бұрын
pronunciation doesn't make it yours, lol
@Daz69H
@Daz69H Жыл бұрын
What is your source for this information?
@TeemarkConvair
@TeemarkConvair Жыл бұрын
excellent..
@HISuttonCovertShores
@HISuttonCovertShores Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@alamagordoingordo3047
@alamagordoingordo3047 Жыл бұрын
Great analisys
@randomuser5443
@randomuser5443 Жыл бұрын
Ukraine has the most productive navy
@theothertonydutch
@theothertonydutch Жыл бұрын
Cheap polyester boats filled with explosives to expose hubris. I love what a big middlefinger they are.
@eijmert
@eijmert Жыл бұрын
@@theothertonydutch well they are at war but it really feels like terrorism, same as ISIS did
@you-dont-know-me
@you-dont-know-me Жыл бұрын
The captain of this same submarine was assassinated on land near his home earlier this year, shot while jogging in the morning by ukrainian agent. Apparently as revenge for launching kalibr missiles at Ukraine and hitting civilian targets. In July 2022 the pictures of the captain were published in Ukrainian newspaper, in July 2023 he was shot multiple times near his home. That article published pictures of ALL sub captains of Black Sea, so may happen again.
@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodcv5
@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodcv5 Жыл бұрын
actually the guy that was assassinated was captain of the Krasnodar (i think), not the Rostov-on-don. different submarine, same class of ship though. apparently they got him because he posted the location data of his daily jog on strava, weird stuff
@dark_drakon6814
@dark_drakon6814 Жыл бұрын
@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodcv5 Russian army don't understand OPSEC Even high-ranking officer. In the first week of the war, I said that Russia would not be able to win this war. The answers I got? "Guy on the net He knows more than Russian Army LOL" Yes, I know more I know the definition OPSEC
@kentershackle1329
@kentershackle1329 Жыл бұрын
thats just plain STUPID aint it?. Venting ya anger to someone whose job is to follow orders. as if he or his crews has any say.
@LewisB3217
@LewisB3217 Жыл бұрын
@@kentershackle1329 he does have a say lmfao, he can deny every attack, that’s the power the captain of a vessel has
@dkm4338
@dkm4338 Жыл бұрын
He can say no? And give up his job. He got what was coming for him lol. No one should feel bad for his death xD @@kentershackle1329
@brianomalley7501
@brianomalley7501 Жыл бұрын
An awesome amazing information once again thank you
@321GhostRider123
@321GhostRider123 Жыл бұрын
Dame, must hurt to lose the first sub since WW2. Especialy if you lose it in a 3 Day special operation xD
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