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[@VeeCaso]

First mistake, always comparing your lifestyle to famous people expecially when it comes to relationships.

[@mimilocke5650]

They are talking about black male celebrities who routinely bash black women as awhole

[@MacSnakeMoanMedia]

@@mimilocke5650 Chris brown can't speak for all black men hard head.

[@mrsoreggio.illustrates]

👏👏👏👏👏

[@PrettyGurl12361]

Fanie- YUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I believe it is immaturity or something.

[@justchilling704]

Sammy Davis Exactly we’re not all woman beating butt sacks!

[@fahnakafranklin8211]

If black men are there for you, why don’t they want you?

[@Loverlovelife]

fahnaka franklin girl where I live in Seattle black men definitely don’t want us interracial relationships is very high here non black men check me out more black men here will never look your way...

[@shawntelmonroe3338]

@@Loverlovelife I live in Seattle As well and you ain't never lied. All you see is black men with white women...and its never attractive white women. It baffles me that you don't want a black woman because you claim we this we that but they go get the worst pick of white women.

[@saeon4427]

@@shawntelmonroe3338 lol😂😂😂😂😂 I'm sorry this took tf out even online it's only below attractive non black women I'm like black men brag so much but yet get busted non black women

[@draleighd]

There could be many reasons, maybe she is a stressful person, who knows

[@draleighd]

Shawntel Monroe move to the south

[@missdesireindependance5194]

These women need to date the men that like them even if he is another race.

[@blackmermaid1]

Miss desire Independance exactly

[@l.barnes2656]

First off, 2 of the interviewees are ladies, the other one is a MAN.

[@dr.manhattan6278]

Even if those women are not Physically attracted to that man? See one thing that you are not mentioning is that most black women can't get beyond being physically attracted to black men. When most black women date out, its rare that you see one with a white man that all women think is handsome. He's usually what I call the leftovers.

[@omaroba1490]

Who says other races of men are.checking for black.women ???

[@dasnas2843]

@ASK A CLASSY BLACK MAN TV RADIO NEWS WISDOM that's really what it's about and they can't tell me different because the evidence is right in our faces.

[@SWIFTzTrigger]

If men did this they'd be called incels.

[@enniswhalen2428]

SWT - Don't worry, no one wants to hear what men have to say.Men do not matter.

[@VMohdude-]

Martial arts and fitness she makes a good point

[@pinkbutterflies994]

The Man In Black what she said must’ve struck a nerve with you since she wasn’t even being disrespectful and you resort to insulting or at least trying to you know she’s a single mother with 9 kids because.................

[@REDSUPREMETV2]

@@pinkbutterflies994 you are a desperate SINGLE mother

[@pinkbutterflies994]

RED SUPREME TV 2 THE MACK Okay dusty 👌🏼 😂

[@nicford548]

Why do black women want men who do not appreciate us? We’re the “exotic” ones. Expand your dating choices!

[@adanne29]

@Jason Eric Not true. Thats the thing. You're actually really wrong

[@tanyawins]

nic ford 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@Truther945]

Very few men of any race specifically prefer black women.

[@ksager123]

@Oz Oz EXACTLY

[@ksager123]

@Jason Eric ouch

[@rdb0819]

This is not about the average black man. This is about the CELEBRITY black man who many of these young women want to be validated by. I’m sure there’s plenty of black men who show them attention. It’s just not the ones they want

[@MT-si3bu]

exactly!

[@piercehawke8021]

Another growing factor is with more and more Black ladies upping their game, as in getting a college education, taking more pride with their physical appearance, etc; is the supply of decent Black men getting scarcer, since women, of any 'race', prefer to 'marry up'.

[@saharaloveland]

Regular black men who become excellerated in his career or whatever the case may be usually don't want black women. Those regular black men pick black women because they don't have options n we are least best in their eyes.

[@jayeljh6638]

@@saharaloveland smh omg 😲 🤦 your wrong look up the actual statistics

[@Egyptiandescendant-nt1le]

They get to personal with me I lose interest asking me where I work checking a brother pocket nalw shawty fall back do you got kids you married no kids not married if I was I wouldn't be talking to you do you wanna get married no do you wanna have kids girl what is you saying to me girl bye

[@ecatskid]

I think black women should date outside their race it will teach them how men are mostly the same and how there is no fantasy race of guys that going to fix everything

[@AyStarmusic]

Edward Williams this is the comment I was looking for !

[@jonathancoleman7148]

Facts

[@LiterallyTho]

Edward Williams No one said there is a fantasy race. But BW could definitely do better then we are doing. Every race of man is not the same, because every race of men doesn’t face the same things.

[@ecatskid]

@@LiterallyThoYes you can do better no children out of wedlock and let go of hood stereotypical behavior when life hit you with a obstacle. Black women has been living the life they're talking about strong and independent your not under the control of anyone means your a private business you can run it how you like and do business with who ever but your a private business no partnership but you don't need to you're strong .

[@ecatskid]

@Miss Monet all races are under the control of the white establishment the value of money is held by there standard so what I expect black woman to do is what I expect Asian and Hispanic women also Arab and native women but it seems black women are doing something completely different like making false statements of being independent and having a strength neither is true for the majority of black women but your the only group of women in the world saying this While other group of are not .

[@alexjones28]

All lies. Date who you want. Open your eyes. Black men love black women and black women love black men. I'm not blind get out and look it's a big world out here.

[@ohhweeeee]

So tired of these shows using black women's frustrations. Why TF are you whining to world about this? If someone's not check for you , they're just not. I think this just makes us look worse.

[@che238]

I wish bw would move in. silence and just date the rainbow. whenever they bring up black issues they only talk about reparations and whatnot, not the fact that black women are the most sexually assaulted and attacked race of women in America by their own men. its clear the community doesn't want to address the issues that affect black women. a woman is supposed to be hypergamous so her offsprings have a great legacy. training black women to "help a brotha out" is so weird and toxic to me. stop complaining and date/marry the rainbow. and move in SILENCE.

[@blackmermaid1]

ohhweeeee exactly. Not everyone want us

[@missshantae24]

I agree. Dove did us foul...😒

[@itsmike9227]

👏🏽

[@chevon1920]

OMG IKR, I am so sick of these women on these shows whining about stuff like this, it doesn’t do anything. What is the point?

[@highjohnroot]

Date men that want YOU, and whose character/values align with who you are. Life and love are much more enjoyable that way lol. Superficial characteristics like race and ethnicity being the foundation of a relationship are a recipe for disaster. Let’s approach love in a more sophisticated and cosmopolitan manner, ladies.

[@che238]

YES!

[@rahzikashiharris9539]

I feel you but ethnicity matters

[@MsDesiree39]

@@rahzikashiharris9539 only to those who are close minded and racist

[@messengeroftruth9633]

Preach!!

[@MsDesiree39]

ah well...lol...

[@officiallykayanna]

this convo is cringy! especially with the lady saying that black women need black men . but i dont see the BM saying this. there is alot of begging here. LOL

[@omg1103]

I wish these conversations will stop and every BW would just level up and be their best selves.

[@officiallykayanna]

Marquita P. Exactly! We need to stop thinking about them and not care 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@che238]

BEGGING! its weird as hell! do these women not understand that if you keep begging to stay in a toxic relationship NOTHING changes? youre asking for men that DO NOT value you to love you? so weird to me. I wish more black women would wake up. im glad my age group and younger black girls are starting to see this for what it is but damn these older black women need genuine help.

[@che238]

@Know thy Self Ah! I'm 19! I'm so happy more of us are waking up! No more mulingggggggg.

[@blackmermaid1]

Khami Cakes right. Cringe. I don't need bm 😂

[@therealreeree8799]

Please STOP the “bash black men narrative” ITS GETTING OLD. I know good, hard-working, black men who uplift and love black women. These same black men love our dark skin and our natural hair.

[@tunjilegba]

Thank you it seems like we feed into stereotypes about each other way too easily.

[@therealreeree8799]

Tunji Legba exactly you will never catch white women or Mexican women bashing their men, and they have the highest rates of domestic violence.

[@mynameisnotimportant2854]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@kennethhinds5471]

Why they do that because of intentions

[@maths23]

@Kristina Brazil That among caribbean men not of african descent especially of some that from west africa.

[@lukas-ux9zp]

The problem is that it's a bunch of women talking about men who aren't present to defend themselves on the issue or clarify anything. So at the end of the day, the conclusions made will b biased.

[@j.e.pierson9433]

What exactly could a man say to justify preferring non-black women over black women? And making Black women the butt of their jokes when it comes to dating? It's a show for women! Not a debate.

[@lukas-ux9zp]

@@j.e.pierson9433 does a black man HAVE to marry a black woman?.

[@lukas-ux9zp]

@*kyla* strawberry well, thank you. I really needed your approval to love outside my race.

[@mikep8787]

I don't know what black men they talking too but I can frfr speak for the most of us WE LOVE AND SUPPORT OUR BLACK WOMEN.... And me personally(I'm black) I don't date outside my race period it nothing another race of women can give me that my black can't... Love u for the ur Good and bad my Black Queens.

[@cliffd8380]

@@mikep8787 This is a ridiculous comment by another fake pro moron. How the hell can you speak for most of anyone if you never met or engage them?

[@THEMANIFESTDIVA]

How are they there for us when they didn’t want to choose us because of our skin tone.....

[@calvthomas6153]

Yeah... I was slightly confused by her statement. She just got through saying “black men weren’t checking for me”, only white men, then in the same breath says “ black men are there for us”. And that she can just be who she is. Did I miss something?

[@HK80sbabii]

Beautiful Bronze I think she was trying to say they are us, it’s easier to relate with black men...

[@missdesireindependance5194]

Make it make sense!!

[@THEMANIFESTDIVA]

Cal V Thomas child I think we all got confused about that one.

[@jjblack4905]

the colorist

[@c-light7624]

Lady in the orange was making such a good point before Winnie jumped in 🙄

[@lilken21]

She had no point. She said THEIR PREFERENCE. End scene after that.

[@lnelygacha6424]

Lady in the orange was making a poor point. These women are seeking the highest end black men on the market. About 10% of black men fit the category she is referring too. But all of these comments are saying, "Black men" not "10% of Black Men" You know for a fact brothas would be down with these women. We hear absentee father as an excuse etc but that does not fly. Black women need to take a self reflexive gaze at themselves. And question why they cannot keep men. The fact that they cannot take that gaze is deeply damaging. Every black man is not just leaving black women because these women are black or because they are in fact themselves losers.

[@amourliaa1981]

Winnie got on my mf nerves as if she don’t know exactly what she was talking about

[@candyxoxo19]

@@lnelygacha6424 sis, I think she not talking celebs. She's speaking in her dating pool with everyday black 🖤. I definitely see men in general overlook women with short natural hair. God made me this way for a reason so I'm currently wearing natural coily not straight hair.

[@fornoreason8822]

That is because.....there is a slave-mind for every wise-mind.

[@virtuouslady5679]

Most men and women are not serious these days. They are immature, play games and not over their past. Work on yourselves before getting into a relationship, and forgive your past from the heart..PERIOD My preference will always be a black man regardless and that is my person business. This interview is a bunch of bologna.

[@realgivans683]

Thanks you for That I love the black race have nothing against them I think the problem is the ignorant talk shows and public figure talking bad about people publicly isn't gonna solve anything

[@Jobes.music46]

You have women who say they want a good black man. But yet they have this long check list starting with his height, income, credit score and what kind of work does he do questioner. Meanwhile some of them can't even match with what they are demanding from the man.

[@MakeYouTubeGreatAgain1]

All guys are not men. With that said, if a black guy doesn't like what he sees in the mirror, he's going to choose a woman that reflects what he wants to see. Like the great Malcolm X said/asked, "Who taught you to hate yourself? The texture of your hair?" Societal propaganda.

[@theresalor]

That part ❗💯💯💯

[@theresalor]

@Jason Eric But thats a generalized statement. I know black men that literally vocalized their distaste for black women. Why? It has to do with self-hate, trauma from the black women in their lives maybe... Something. That mentality doesn't just "happen" because of preference

[@blackmermaid1]

Jason Eric im a bw and that's what I be saying to bw

[@ampmri2434]

I agree folks have privilege in choice of who they date especially men. Black men date plenty of women wearing weaves and rarely if ever check for women with natural hair so the hair standard is disingenuous.

[@ruthquetant7375]

🎯‼️

[@pikesvillian]

Well how about y’all Stop dating Tyrone and Pookie and get y’all that wholesome black man that y’all called weak and soft in high school! Hello!

[@The__Nation]

Truth!!

[@Runnit12]

That’s the truth that they don’t wanna hear💯

[@literromanceresq5871]

Word! Facts! Go get grease before you decide to fry a turkey.

[@bw_locked_in_arms_globally5732]

you are extremely ignorant!!

[@jt_6178]

Why do y’all tell us not to date a Tyrone, then get mad is us for not wanting to date a Tyrone? Y’all call us bougie and stuck up because we don’t want to to deal with a guy who barely even offers the bare minimum. Damned if we do, damned if we don’t🥴

[@MrVdurrell]

Oldest trick in the book. Divide and conquer

[@lashaeleaf8842]

Vince Durrell 💯🙌🏾💯

[@Sasha0406]

Who is doing the dividing though?

[@MrVdurrell]

@@Sasha0406 Really??

[@psyourauntie]

@@Sasha0406 Sis....the intellectual dishonesty is so real in black people that it aint even funny...... Just stop lying bm and bw. DAMN

[@shawneegirl1980]

Absolutely

[@TruthOverFear21]

As A Black Man, I found that it is harder to attract a good woman when you don't act like the men that they idolize on TV shows or movies. It's harder to be an individual cause they expect you to be the man they idolize but don't communicate what they want you to be. Everyone is yelling but not listening on what being told. I love dark skin women

[@lifeis2171]

Same as a bw.

[@TruthOverFear21]

@@lifeis2171 true but you have to admit that the independent superwoman attitude is hurt the community. No other race of women claim that they don't need anyone but cries about being alone and lonely

[@ceegabe1555]

I have all shades of women and men in my family and I LOVE them all. WE all have experienced racial profiling and LIVING WHILE BLACK.

[@hr9336]

It’s funny you said this. I saw a clip of this awful show “P-Valley”. Apparently an urban BW favorite. This thug choked out a guy for coming in his store without a mask. The BW watching him do this was all wide eyed impressed. I said to myself what an awful group of people 😂

[@TruthOverFear21]

@Cee Gabe yeah but if you never experience a stable household, then how can you know when you have a good man and not try to be in control of the relationship?

[@HIMAY10NENCE]

BLACK WOMEN CONVERSATIONS DOES NOT HAVE TO INCLUDE MEN ALL THE TIME. We good 😒....

[@blackmermaid1]

HIMAY10NENCE at this point....it do

[@ampmri2434]

There is always a dating and relationship panel. We are social beings.

[@thelatentsexualfreak]

Girl most of these women are desperate pick me's so they have to have constant conversations like this

[@osazuwaogbeide1540]

@D H lol the clap back I believe so most bw are becoming lesbiAn it scary

[@samlsd9711]

Men and women build community, the way to building a successful community, is speaking about it.

[@Dilenga23]

“I don’t have to try I can just be” I’ve never felt that way with a black man.

[@caveman357]

Is it "Black men", or just the black men who YOU have chosen? Just because someone is Black, dosent mean that they are compatible with you.

[@jpat989]

Sad for you.

[@caveman357]

@@j.e.pierson9433 you can't say that without knowing that particular mans past. The black man who dates a bottom tier latina, or white woman, might just have had even lower tier black women in his life. So unless you know that means particular story, he could be upgrading. Men are gonna choose the best option that they have available.

[@douglasmichael6480]

Dating the wrong men sis

[@bihmthethird]

It started out that way for me being able to trust my sistas...but we allowed society to slowly strip that away and destroy our trust for one another on some levels...I've witnessed the change since the 70s... in families, at work, at church...and we really don't understand that this was all orchestrated for us to be lost at sea.

[@rawfoodsgirl]

Uhhh...Winnie what? Girl get it together!

[@kevinking7611]

Women are not going to tell each other the truth

[@defrancounderwood7816]

nope of course not. it's ALWAYS something that we are doing wrong yet every Black man that turned his back on a Black Woman is a man who was made to feel like he wasn't good enough by the same women he so deeply adored and admired. Anyway. It's over for black women.

[@kevinking7611]

@@defrancounderwood7816 We are taking our power be bro

[@bluebelle6833]

Lol she's talking about Chris brown

[@BishopEddie5443]

Rhianna provoked that incident. I'll bet she wont do that to another man.

[@sammydegg]

The way I see it he is a known woman beater have your career do you I could care less if he dont want a "nappy headed" black women good....dont want no women beater anyway

[@fel6533]

@@BishopEddie5443 bishop u sounds like an abuser

[@saeon4427]

@@meetkrissyj1327 maybe black women need to stop helping black men's career

[@laetitiadavion2055]

Clearly....and I'm so sick of it-- him and Rhianna fought each other. Was it a good decision? No! But how long are we going to harp on this? He was 18 yrs old-- he's 30 now...do you guys want to be judged for something that happened when you were 18 for the rest of your life? I mean let it go already-- Rhianna did and she was actually involved! Rant over

[@Bouvier28]

Maybe its the kind of black men they are choosing.

[@milesmorales5271]

Daughter of Zion - It is but they won’t admit it because that would mean they’d have to take accountability for their own decisions, instead of blaming black men.

[@fabiendickens3001]

We need more ebony goddesses like u

[@shawneegirl1980]

Of course

[@Bouvier28]

@@fabiendickens3001 Thank you !!!

[@happylivesmatter95]

@AshTheOne Maybe its the colorist mentallity of the men

[@barbararichardson2747]

Can you imagine the impact bitter mothers have on their sons ?If all a boy hears is that all black men are no good he's going to live up to that expectation.We can't plant seeds and blame society for how it grows.

[@jesuswilljudge7296]

These same bw running away from bm are the same ones that raised these pookie and ray rays

[@barbararichardson2747]

@AshTheOne No better reason to instill something positive.There are decent black men out there; Boys need to know that.Bad enough to have society putting them down.Why would a loving mother do the same?We need to take responsibility for the type of men we choose.Stop being bitter and make better choices.

[@isahbello9785]

@AshTheOne Then maybe his mum shouldn't have run his dad off with her bad attutude.

[@notevenonce2260]

@AshTheOne You do realize that premature death and incarceration are demographically significant realities for black men, right? We are so programmed to settle on the narrative of the black man who is not present in his children's lives because he is irresponsible that we fail to observe that a significant number of black men aren't in the picture because they're dead or locked in cement cages against their will (sometimes through no fault of their own). We can't, on one hand, say that we suffer racial oppression from things that primarily but not exclusively harm black men like the criminal justice system and gun crime when its time to advocate for things like affirmative action, voting rights, etc. then turn around and deny the impact of the criminal justice system when we want to make black women look good at black men's expense.

[@princessjasmin4218]

@@isahbello9785 If a man runs off and doesn't take care of his child becuase "the mum ran him off" then that man is an irresponsible coward. He chose to lay down with that woman and get her pregnant, so he needs to take care of his child regardles if the "baby momma" is "crazy"...If he says he's not taking care of the child becuase the mom is too dificult to deal with, then he doesn't really care for his child and is using the mom being "crazy" as a way to get out of taking responsibility for his actions and taking care of his child. A man that cares for his offspring will fight to be in their lives...I've seen it, and there is no way a real man would abandon his child in any circumstance.

[@cthomp81]

The problem is they want a chris brown.

[@Tag6488]

Shadi you will be surprised

[@mdjonesish]

I have always wanted a black man, but the more I grow, especially as a single mother raising a black man, I don’t believe black men feel the same about us as black women. So I’m dealing with now, leaving black men be--allowing myself to love them how they want to be loved, and that’s from a distance. My love and respect for the black man will not trump my love and self respect for myself. I deserve happiness and allowing myself to love any man regardless of their race is my next step.

[@missdesireindependance5194]

Good for you!!

[@psyourauntie]

Proud of you sis.....from a distance is GOOD thinking.

[@shawneegirl1980]

I know that's right girl!

[@jesuswilljudge7296]

And yet these single mothers will be the same ones raising the feminine men that bw are running away from and going for brad with the good hair smh..

[@mdjonesish]

Jesus will Judge from your mouth to Gods ears only...

[@shubs4291]

Im an mixed race man quarter english three quarter Indian who loves black women . I know loads of Asian brothers who love black women lets talk about that lol

[@amaryisblr2235]

SHUBZ K they never will. People want black women to keep thinking nobody wants them. Literally anybody outside of black men like black women idk why they refuse to just date outside of their race

[@shubs4291]

@@amaryisblr2235 thats a real shame . Should be proud whoever u date someone who makes u happy you know. Agree what ur saying though

[@jesuswilljudge7296]

Even if they marry them which is last place lol, they can still be fetishsized, slave owners slept with slaves, your spouse can still be covert racist

[@jesuswilljudge7296]

@AY F but you pressed and triggered boo cause i said bw are least desirable so once again you act like a child and throw bm in the mix, we already know what they do, nobody said they aint guilty as well

[@jalisalomas20]

SHUBZ K where they at, I’ve been wanting one to approach me.

[@vigorlilover]

Chris Brown??? A role model! Lmao 😂 I’m sorry what?!

[@jesusaddict3452]

That right there!

[@virtuouslady5679]

God is the only role model...No man/woman is a role model because they are not perfect...Like I stated earlier the interview is a bunch of bologna.

[@nadirashabazz1033]

Right😒

[@mauricelovell7173]

He is so weak

[@candiislmz3433]

He is everything a man shouldn't plus more😏🤣

[@prosmokeprochokeantibroke]

As a Black Melaninated man we just want to be at peace with you Black woman everything else will fall in place.

[@priscillamoussa8841]

I love this

[@Avembe]

Maybe it's time for a conversation between Blk men and blk women to tell each other like it is ....i mean it ...but by the type of back and forth on some comments below it's gonna be tough...but since no one else will help us,but US i think we better approach this conservation with less blame and more understanding....just saying...

[@florafauna1590]

Bishop Eddie black women are the only women that are breadwinners so why do they have to submit to a man they are above, finanacially and mentally???

[@champagnewhite8112]

@@BishopEddie5443 All other nations have men that Build, lead and protect. Those men don't depend on other men for employment, housing.....ect. Why are you under these posts demeaning black women? Feminine characteristics

[@jesuswilljudge7296]

Yea all these other races arent facing OPPRESSION either all these other races are not targeted for jail either thats why they were able to build and move on then u have the balls to ask whats up with the black community? These other races have their economics, blacks dont as a whole

[@amaryisblr2235]

IamAahron no thats no lie. In black couples of this day and age 80% of black women are the bread winners. Maybe a couple of u have both successful parents which is cool BUT don’t ignore the stats lol

[@Gigilovehugs]

I agree other wise we are just complaining

[@ScaryToRemarry]

Black women are amazing! I’m honored to be married to one. Black men need to speak more positive about our black women

[@ksager123]

Simp talk

[@henshawosong5469]

cortez smith He said the truth. We got to encourage one another to do better not because we have done amazing things but because words build people abd also have the power to destroy. There are brainwashed black men and women but most of us are just caught in between the negativity and it's starting to affect our view of each other. When was the time you heard a black woman say something great about black men? When was the last time y'all did something great for the collective if black women?

[@bohemianchic638]

Shon Hyneman thank you brother we appreciate you too

[@ScaryToRemarry]

Henshaw Osong thanks brotha

[@ScaryToRemarry]

Annette Lathan thank you! We have to build each other up. That’s the only way to change the narrative, through love and encouragement

[@thumbsaloft]

It goes BOTH WAYS! I know plenty GOOD BLACK MEN who ABSOLUTELY ADORE BLACK WOMEN who got TOTALLY DOGGED OUT BY THEM! Many BLACK WOMEN take a GOOD MAN FOR GRANTED!

[@dr.manhattan6278]

Amen!

[@ksager123]

Truth

[@thumbsaloft]

@*kyla* strawberry, Only a person that's CLOSED MINDED and doesn't want to consider the OTHER SIDE would say lies!

[@ksager123]

@*kyla* strawberry BEGONE SUCCUBUS

[@stayflyking]

This needs to be top comment

[@damndisplace07]

What I don't understand is....why do black women care so much about black men dating other races of women...yet in the same breath loudly proclaim how "they don't need a man"? What man in his right mind would provide for this kind of woman?🤔

[@nevergiveupbaby1720]

Why do black men care so much? Literally seen black men say black women shouldn’t date white men because they used to be our slave masters. But the same doesn’t apply to black men cause so many of y’all think yall are above us just off being a MAN. It’s sad the double standards black men try and apply on BW

[@nevergiveupbaby1720]

Only an insecure man needs a woman to “need him” and you’re clearly one of those. Women of all races say that and mean it

[@ShanteeHaynes]

I can't get upset/mad about black males fetishizing non black women anymore. Social media and media in general allows these clowns to reveal themselves and put themselves out there andet you know to turn them off, stop patronizing them, etc and leave it at that.

[@ms.fabolusmorgan4279]

I agree all these conversations do is have us turning on each other they love it and we sometimes don't 👀it are if we do is so conditioned to be self loathers I come from a two parent black God fearing 🏡raised by a,strong Black Man may he rest in Peace. If God not in it is going to fail regardless we as a community need to turn back to God 💗ourselves ,each other and go 👀🌍 and our opportunities, the "BOGGY MAN IS NOT REAL "Quit letting these phobias stunt us from a Bless and Beautiful Life 💞your comment girl .👍😀

[@shawneegirl1980]

@Trey Diggz she said social media allows the clowns to reveal themselves. There are REAL ppl exposing themselves on social media though

[@ShanteeHaynes]

@Mr. Chalmers being non-black doesn't equate to a woman's femininity

[@MsDesiree39]

has it ever occured to you that alot of these bm may simply find alot of non blck women to be attractive? they also love the fact that these women are way more feminine than alot of bw, keep it real

[@jewelnarsiah6340]

@@MsDesiree39 How can you in one thread say that most bm are with bw then say that non blk women are more "feminine"than blk women on this thread?Delusion😍

[@logicwillprevail1237]

When will black women open up their dating options ? It’s sad to see black women holding out for black men who in mass prefer to date other races.

[@Charlay_Charlay]

@T Knight HAHAHAHAHAHA

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[@MsDesiree39]

let them wait

[@KDH-Esq.]

Logic Will Prevail black women do not have many options (generally).

[@michaelgomez2522]

It appears black women don't have the same interracial options though. I've seen several studies that say black women and Asian men are the least desired in society.

[@ChiquitaSpeaks]

It’s like y’all keep having the same conversations over n over lol

[@gregoryglass9040]

You peep it too

[@ryanmartin73]

Yep. Maybe it high time we see the value in each other instead of letting the media dictate what we should have. Black folk really don't have any allies that empathize or share our experience. There is nothing wrong with staying with your own people.

[@14kurtismiller]

This conversation has new participants.

[@CephlonMayngrum]

Social behavioral engineering

[@kayf661]

Insanity

[@PaulClipMaster]

"I don't have to try, I can just be". That's BS. You don't have to try extra because a man is not black. That's just your own insecurity.

[@ctruth6185]

Interracial relationships come with their own set of unique problems related to socialization, culture, class, group identity, ethnicity & race. Black men & black women have never really had time to themselves in America. A place where white people interfere into every aspect of their lives. Perhaps Black Americans should collectively return to Africa, rebuilding their relationships, families & communities from the ground up as they rebuild industries? Time for a homeland.

[@PaulClipMaster]

@@ctruth6185 Not realistic at this point in history. The world is fully globalized. The weakness of the black community has always been its embrace of dysfunction and rejection of high culture. And those in the community that embrace high culture are generally kicked out of the community, attacked by the community, or destroyed by the community. The white race doesn't thrive from having a "homeland". It thrives by embracing high culture and rejecting dysfunction (thought that is starting to change these days).

[@reecevb]

Did she just say Chris Brown was a role model??? WTF! This is why you can’t have nice things...

[@j-short5431]

Lies. These women chased Pookie, Ray Ray and every other thug because they wants swag and a man they could have veto power over. And The same decent black men they rejected, they still show their contempt for them. They are going on the show still bashing the men they didn’t want. Brothers are no longer going to help you lie to the rest of the world at our own expense

[@shedrickwallace9363]

There is something wrong with both black men and women. Most of us haven’t been raised in stable families and it shows is our commitments and relationships.

[@Rameses3113]

This is why Kevin Samuels was needed. Some black women have spent years dragging black men in the media just because they couldn’t pick the right man.

[@pnklfeflx7332]

Black men makes themselves look bad ^^^^^^^ example number two

[@MrkendrickH]

@@pnklfeflx7332 there will always be bad apples in any large group of people. There have been a lot of white man that have done things a hundred times worse than any black man have done. Studies show Asian man are the least desired out of all races of men. In fact Asian women are the most likely to date outside of their race out of all races and genders so that should tell you something. Hispanic man have to live with their entire family just to survive because of how little money they make They are some of the biggest drug lords and dope dealers on the planet and they all try to leave there country to come to America because of all the crime and killings. Do we really need to talk about how Indian women are treated by there men. You get out line and you might just get killed. But yet you hardly see any of those going on national tv in front of the world talking down on there men, fathers, brothers, sons the way black women do.

[@MrkendrickH]

@@commonsenseprevails1433 when the last time you seen black man running around talking about they strong and independent it don't need no woman so how exactly are we bitter. When have you seen black men going on all type of national TV shows crying about black women not picking them?

[@commonsenseprevails1433]

@MIND ELEVATION Bw say they are strong and independent because bm don't show up. You allow your women to be at the catalyst for social change while you guys sit back and reap the benefits. I think it ridiculous that bw beg for bm's attention. Per the previous paragraph, they don't fight for themselves, so we know they won't fight for us. I honestly don't get it. As for bm complaining, you can't go on any social media venue without bm crying about bw choosing hood dudes, when it's you all who are choosing hood chicks who don't want you.

[@MrkendrickH]

@@commonsenseprevails1433 y'all really need to stop with all the lying. There are tons of black man fighting for social change . Y'all can't change anything without us. We have always fought to protect BW. Even back during the civil rights movement go look at the videos of the police getting the dogs to attack, water hose, and beating us down. Those are black men not black women. Black Panthers, gangs who use to protect black communities from the police, black Muslims, civil activist lawyers, etc fighting for our right have mostly been BM. Even today when we protest for injustice they call out the entire police force and the national guard to attempt to stop not black women but black men. BM are the ones that strike fear in the hearts of powerful white elite. We have been getting locked up and even being killed for justice of black people. So you can say that BS to the BW that will believe that garbage you talking about. What blows my mind is that y'all running around talkin about you're strong, independent, don't need a man but then cry about us not protecting you. The way BW have always been protected is by getting married but now y'all file 80% of the divorces and talk about how y'all prefer to be single. Also BM are not crying because ghetto chicks are not picking us. We are simply responding to the BW who are crying about the BM they are willingly choosing. All we are saying if you don't want a man that's going to run off on his kids, broke, or abusive then stop picking those type of black men. Because most black men will be in there child life, would not abuse women, and have jobs making middle class income. An it's not only ghetto chicks with this strong, independent, I don't need a man masculine mindset. It's also black educated, successful, black women who lived in the suburbs there entire life.

[@nanakay6030]

I really don't know where this myth about black men not wanting to be with black women comes from. It's a complete LIE.

[@s-madegames]

Alarak The Highlord Exactly they need to re-clarify the topic of the video. Women watch too much reality show bs and social media

[@cauliflowerpower41]

Black men don't date black women in south Carolina they don't even look their way

[@kidkid985]

Because these black woman can’t get the type of black men they want, that’s why they go to celebrities, because most of these women want black celebrities. Notice they never talk about who the average blue collar black man is dating. I guarantee black men want these women but if he isn’t over 6 foot making 8 figures they dismiss his.

[@nanakay6030]

@@kidkid985 couldn't agree more

[@mwan245]

Most black women exist in africa though, not 13% of tiny black population in usa

[@appliancedude63]

They explore every option but the truth. Sometimes one must look at thyself lol. You might be the problem.

[@rastaboyshotta6249]

Look into ones very own soul lol 😂 right right

[@Comegetyourdose131]

I am a black man and growing up I had several encounters where I was “too dark” to date a black girl because the preferences at the time for many of them was “light skin with curly hair” or the Latino boys. To that, this colorist view is not just perpetuated by black men it is an issue for the black community at large. I am from NY and live in DC so this discussion seems baseless as I see nothing but thriving black relationships and love all around me. However, I have been educated that depending on your geographical location in America that this argument can have some merit. For instance, I have two lady friends, one from Cali and the other from Minnesota, who said the black men there largely dates non-black women. However, I do find it odd that when you ask a black women to expand on this theory of “black men not dating black women” the reference point is usually some celebrity relationship (such as the case with the first speaker). It’s clear that there are black men that don’t have an affinity for darker skinned black women but the data shows that the overwhelming majority of black men are still courting black women. It’s funny that this discussion is being had on a network owned by a women who in my opinion clearly has a vendetta against black men. In summary, don’t drink the cool aid and love yourself.

[@pauloskidane2819]

It’s like Black Women works as secret agents for White Men...some of them truly disgust me..

[@iasproductions4880]

This was my experience as a dark skin blackman. I think black women are projecting when they say blackmen are not checking for them.

[@tjandcj123]

I find it so interesting, I grew up in south GA and all you see is a dark skin man with a dark skin woman. We love our dark skin here in the south. Very interesting topic though.

[@iasproductions4880]

@Bree Nouveau well, nowadays black women like every other races of men but black men. We see the hypocrisy that is going on we just don't give it attention.

[@iasproductions4880]

@Bree Nouveau I see mostly black women doing that towards blackmen. You all seems to have self hate issues that you need to heal from.

[@thomasbowling7458]

I am a man that stumbled on this video, and ladies let me say this. Growing up, and having women not be attracted to you constantly, makes you wonder if you will every get a woman. So then you have the others come at you, and tell you, you are handsome, strong, and they want to be with you. You are finally with someone but those same women that rejected you, now that you have become someone. No. No. No. Or how about the guy, that has tried to be all to 1 woman and she messes things up, and then he goes to the next, and the same thing and he tries one more. Same thing. Sometimes women, need to see that its not the man, but maybe the woman.

[@Onebaybeedoll]

Fair enough, and keep in mind this story happens to us women too. A lot of stories of BW who tried with BM and got rejected, and find when they leave the race, everything changes. Sometimes its the women. Sometimes its the men. In the same way the men want us to understand that they turned to WW because they got rejected, please understand the same thing happens to BW too.

[@therealboi3454]

It’s both god women are not the only problem it’s both in the black community

[@saharaloveland]

You hate black women logic Is bs

[@Ruthless_king]

You try to be a good black man to one black woman & she’ll cheat on you or leave you

[@thomasbowling7458]

@@Onebaybeedoll And I know that, but understand a woman is the one that really decides if she wants to accept or reject a man. Look at every woman in the video. I would say hand down, 90+% of the women in that video are gorgeous, and you mean to tell me not one man for any one of them? something is not right.

[@BagOfSnacksPodcast]

Stop it 5. Black men checking for yall. Knock it off.Stop this Narritive. Its dangerous putting this energy out. Lovely black women up there. We love black women. Are black men good enough for these black women. She brings Chris Brown into convo. Of course he not checkn for yall sooo what. The everday awesome loving Guy is. Will that do and is it good enough.

[@asisiphoguga195]

Lol 2 of you black men. Many black men are not checking for black women especially in NYC

[@Fireslanga1]

@@asisiphoguga195 look at what we have to choose from...almost no black women under 30 dont have kids from other men. Idk about you but i don't like my food chewed up already before i eat it

[@jacquelinehilliard9119]

Yall only love them if they lightskinned or have a big butt

[@Comegetyourdose131]

Jacqueline Hilliard who’s “y’all” ? You can’t be implying that all black men are a monolith.

[@BagOfSnacksPodcast]

@Princess 123 Yes I Understand.

[@dowardwashington9958]

Sweetie, just like white men have expectations so do black men. You do have to "TRY"

[@gregoryhughes6097]

Preach!

[@gregoryhughes6097]

@one sided loyalty is for suckasI knew someone from a burner account would reply negatively with an opinion that consists of severe grammatical flaws. You have to articulate yourself properly. Otherwise, the value of your response is minuscule.

[@BlackHawk0674]

@Tori Love pookie and Ray Ray are not black Men and those are the ones that a lot of bw are engineered to choose because their TV told their strong and independent hive minds to choose as to what a "real" man is.

[@danicabrice4205]

Black Hawk hell no we don’t look up to these reality stars. Lol we have enough self respect for that and a “real” man is someone who respects me just the way I am and betters me. Us woman shouldn’t be the ones that have to “try” all the time. Why don’t you guys try for us?

[@BlackHawk0674]

@@danicabrice4205 😂😂 you just proved my point about the hive mind

[@fornoreason8822]

Her comment is based on a celebrity. All of that comes straight out of a delusional mindset from the start. No depth = No reality.

[@weluvmickey5265]

Im a black woman and dgaf this only affects black women who want black men .

[@tyrewilliams283]

Let me guess it’s blame the man day 😂

[@mrsgolden6526]

Lol I can't 🤣🤣

[@everettfanor1989]

Yup. Women "Never" take personal responsibility. They could cheat on their man and its gonna be his fault

[@illumination357]

MONEY/SUCCESS 10Million My ex said exactly that! It’s my fault she cheated, because I didn’t compliment her enough.

[@misterl0gic]

In the Black community, it's also known as "Tuesday"

[@dr4hearts91]

@@everettfanor1989 I've had multiple exes tell me that, then they wonder why I dumped them

[@PinkYellowGreen2023]

The older I get the less I want any man simply because what's important to me, is NEVER important to them. It's a source of immaturity in MYSELF to keep entertaining the idea of dating, relating, being friends, etc. I've got to get over it....ASAP. All the best to those of you who still have a desire for them to be in your life! Pray for you...hope it works out...!!! Wishing you the best.

[@Yourmomlovesmethough]

And there you have it ladies and gentlemen the reason our communities in shambles. The self-absorbed sense of pride like you have some type of leverage And are independent, Now don't disrespect but I guarantee you're making some money and probably doing well for yourself I will take that away from you, But I guarantee you're also not a millionaire. Just admit the older you get shorty the less men want you. It's biology. Get it right. I'm sure if a millionaire dude came and promise to swoop you off your feet and take care of you, you would suddenly desire a man in the heartbeat so stop at the BS.

[@legioxciicorvus5917]

Black women talk like everything they say is some deep profound revelation.

[@londorsey9626]

yes, they're just wrong with insistence and screaming

[@candiislmz3433]

You look very weak.

[@thecraplordsell4575]

@@candiislmz3433 You sound bitter

[@candiislmz3433]

@@thecraplordsell4575 you sound very hurt.

[@thecraplordsell4575]

@@candiislmz3433 Hurt for what, you BW are too complicated for a relationship.

[@ridealongdrill]

The black man is tired of: #1 Bad Attitudes. #2 Masculine Black Women. #3 Hair Weaves. #4 Fake Eyelashes. ( nails) #5 Not Being pro-black. #6 Feminist. #7 THE END.

[@kimberlydill8059]

The black woman tired of: #1. No power #2. No jobs #3. No family values #4. No businesses #5. Hair weaves #6. No masculinity #7. Evil #8. No communities leaders #9. Etc... #60. The end.

[@ridealongdrill]

@@kimberlydill8059 Well at least you followed the leader💪🏿that's showing some type of submissiveness I'm glad there's a woman somewhere in there🤧

[@mojo-eq4ln]

@ Jinx M 👊🏾

[@LivingAsTasha]

Maybe it’s just me but why are we getting offended at those who aren’t checking for us when they don’t even have the moral and qualities we want in the first place????

[@TheDarkmaleX]

Morals and qualities? That's why many BW are alone. Too picky and want a black man with tons of cash. Be human.

[@RaiderRSupastar]

What morals and qualities you are talking about? Looking at the tv alone I see BW cussing, getting lit, sleeping around. Need I say more

[@pauloskidane2819]

Morals and quality?? Lol y’all choose the lowest fruit of black men... and y’all act nasty like them.

[@dwrighte1]

As a dark skinned black man, I recall being told by black women that I was too black for them. Funny how you never hear this narrative. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@silentlamont]

its the reason you only have one other like

[@donnielee2282]

You right you good looking but too dark I have been hearing this all my life from black women

[@wwarren1977]

As a light skin black man I was told told that light skin brothas were out of style. In reality I don't think I am that light but for some reason all the dark skin black people seem it is necessary to point out the fact that I am.

[@dwrighte1]

@@wwarren1977 , I've heard that too but it is not as much as I have heard about being too dark. The colorism is there in any event if you're too light or too dark.

[@dwrighte1]

@@silentlamont , not sure if that was a response to me, but I hardly understand your response. Care to elaborate?

[@Journeywithmscohen]

I love black men and all of the black men in my life. My father, my brothers, my son, my husband, and my uncles and Male cousins are all wonderful loving men. I am tired of these "Conversations" on OWN that are negatively aimed at belittling black men , black families, and black love. Majority of black women want black babies with a black man. If one black man was or is not for you, move on. Same goes for black men who desires a black woman, but hasn't meet to right one. OWN, stop trying to push black folk to others, we want to increase and improve our black families just like all other races on this planet, and because we want to do just that doesn't mean we dislike any other race, we are simply focusing on building black families. OWN, how about y'all do a conversation on "THE POSITIVE BLACK FAMILY UNIT & HOW IT BENEFITS THE BLACK COMMUNITY!"

[@jonathancoleman7148]

Facts

[@mrsgolden6526]

Increase does not necessarily mean improve and especially not in this case

[@fyafeelings7673]

@ Imagine Tv with Renee' Im giving you a STANDING OVATION and you don't even know it. All facts through my lens of perception. Im married to black queen and i have a daughter, who i love with all of me. Im teachimg and showing her black love everyday can exist.

[@fyafeelings7673]

@Nicole burnett nope not flase...I'm proof of that. I even grew up in a household with both of my parents, who were married. Im guessing you had toxic relationships with brothers so all are damaged goods to you. Im married to a queen and I also conceived a beautiful daughter out of it.

[@mrrealtalk4901]

Imagine TV with Renee' Thank you my sister!

[@Tkartss]

I love when black men gets judge based of celebrities. It just makes perfect sense

[@commonsenseprevails1433]

The problem is that many bm will co-sign with the celebrities, whether it's on social media or in real life. Let's not forget that all of the bm who are celebrities were once everyday average men who happened to become famous. I can't believe they changed their mindset once the became famous or wealthy.

[@MT-si3bu]

@@commonsenseprevails1433 that’s not true at all

[@commonsenseprevails1433]

@@MT-si3bu I changed my comment to say "many" bm. Of course not all bm feel this way, but many do.

[@DerwinDaDestroyer]

The abusive ones too

[@butterflygirl01]

Bm do the same thing with bw.

[@t.mijnnaam9916]

I don't blame black men. In my experience, as a white guy, black women play way too many headgames.

[@eduardojunior3213]

You are overgeneralizing black women

[@alwaysblack6480]

@T. Mijnnaam What? Where are the black women on this comment?

[@user-ox8ix6lf4r]

Bingo

[@BlackMan437]

the last chik what she meant: after saying they are there for us, she said, "I don't have to try, i just have to be" which means that when a black woman dates a black man dating becomes easy because we share similar lifestyle, food taste, culture, so relationship just flows. so she feels that dating black men would simplify her dating life however they never showed interest in her.

[@DanielDouglas555]

"only women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally,” whereas “a man is only loved under the condition that he provide something." - Chris Rock

[@bslimm.b1739]

😂😂😂

[@bslimm.b1739]

That's just life take or leave it that's how our innate biology's work

[@Darkstalker212]

Exactly lol

[@bellachronicles1065]

If women and children were loved unconditionally there would be no domestic violence, wage inequality or child abuse. You tried being profound by quoting a comedian but this is still complete nonsense.

[@bslimm.b1739]

@@bellachronicles1065 he's talking about in situations like the Titanic women' leave with the kids while men have to stay and find another way in families woman is loved for being woman a beautiful one of course man is loved under condition he provides

[@proton8689]

As a black male, I'm just here to watch the saltiness and whining women complaining in the commments

[@proton8689]

@Bree Nouveau How do businesses relate to dating?

[@proton8689]

@Bree Nouveau What? I'm a STEM student studying Environmental Science and Sustainable Technology. What you're talking about with businesses has no relation to me

[@nevergiveupbaby1720]

Found the bitter black man

[@ophfunny8628]

Regular black men... that lives regular lives, love black women. Statistics shows, we MARRY each other the most.

[@ebucme]

Just wondering why I never see a title about white women dating wo's it's always us complaining about the black man ...Oprah can't help y'all get a man she trying to hold on to hers..we drag our men more than anybody lift these brothers up

[@RJ12347]

@*kyla* strawberry YES!

[@Nerrrdgasm]

Soul Snatching Voodoo ???? Protected??? If at all black men are protected it’s because they protect themselves. Something I’d consider an amazing feat considering the American government is predominantly controlled by the white Race.

[@danielpeart8515]

@*kyla* strawberry Yes they do

[@williehall5439]

Black men love black women, but sistas carry too much baggage. Lord!!!! Nobody gonna date you with 2-3 kids and 2 baby fathers, ect that's too much to deal with. And you!!!! It's only 1 KING AT THE THRONE.

[@Plagius8]

As a black man thats scared to talk women this just baffles me

[@nevergiveupbaby1720]

You look too old to be scared

[@therealreeree8799]

There’s no need to date outside your race to find love. There are plenty of good, well-educated brothers out there. If you’re having trouble finding one, you may need to look in the mirror, not outside your race.

[@mrsgolden6526]

Good joke

[@TheFREEZY808]

Milena Bernkopf it’s not a joke mayo

[@cecegichau9785]

STOP with these LIES we all know the truth that good black men are rare. Come to Cali, once a bm "makes it" he is no longer interested in a bw, just about anything else. Bw need to upgrade and divest to a better man, life, and future generations. 💯

[@therealreeree8799]

Cece Gichau I’ve been to CALI and I know plenty of successful and wealthy black men, and they have black women by their side. Stop feeding into the age old narrative that once they make it, they get a white woman , because it’s false. Even in the NBA AND NFL statistically the majority of those black men are married to black women .

[@gdesiree29]

Nope. Date who u want to date.its 2019

[@tommyakbar957]

Why is it always told one sided black women never found me attractive until mid 20s

[@dbroadna]

I think Black Women try to be your Mama instead of your Woman. When a man speaks up it becomes a major problem!

[@Only1Dizzle]

Black women, it's your attitude. Stop using celebrities as examples. The majority of people are average and don't live by any celebrity standards.

[@pnklfeflx7332]

Black men make themselves look bad. Example number 4 ^^^^^^^^^^

[@nicbean7243]

TV shows like this put a magnifying glass on all the bad. Grew in a community full of brothas who want a sista, got a sista, and still with them. Dont let TV kill your love we outchea. We love you 🖤

[@tylonarandolph1577]

Until you get money, and I don't mean check to check money.... I'm talking about "bank", that's when the black women is no longer good enough. Now, you have money, and wit money comes more options in EVERYTHING! Including women. I see many men using black women to be their "starter baby momma 's", then once they come up, they leave for "better options ". I love black men but I'm about sick of y'all honestly.... how much can a women take??

[@nicbean7243]

@@tylonarandolph1577 Never seen, witnessed, or heard of that. Follow your experience though cuz imma follow mine.

[@NallahBrown]

Asé

[@darrylclark455]

You NEVER see videos like this coming from other cultures. Why is Black Men vs Black Women so mainstream?

[@TMM-N]

Black women expect men to be rich like rappers

[@BG-qi5gw]

Great. Now can we get a show that features black men and their challenges dating black women? Or is that not politically correct?

[@pauloskidane2819]

Brian Brian It’s “bashing” then...

[@MultiDiceman]

Black women are perfect its always our fault or haven't you learned that yet lol

[@pink1237480]

I believe black men should be able to speak theres no problem in that at all.

[@revojoe6074]

I agree with you...in this social climate it would be considered politically incorrect

[@Cynthia.O.]

Ummm you guys already have a platform and thats the social media plus tik tok.

[@l.barnes2656]

Why is the trans-man the LOUDEST on the stage discussing women issues??? He will NEVER be a woman no matter how hard he tries!

[@purenoire]

This resonates with me, I'm with a white man (husband), but I always thought I'd be with a black man. I personally didn't want to deal with the rejection forever. I have family goals, wants and desires that felt like they were never going to be met or would be met, but with tentative strings attached (hair has to be like 'this', can't gain weight, speak properly or how they believe I should, act a certain way etc.) Those are some of the examples I've had while dating black men, or mixed (black and white) men, and if its not that it was a certain air of 'I should be grateful for the opportunity to have a black man' like they were doing ME a favor, a fully-fledged educated tax-paying woman. I had to let my idea go and pursue what was good for me, which - as I say FOR ME - was someone who loves supports and wants me and understands me. As A Whole.

[@kierrarichardson80]

Awesome

[@docshay7328]

What happened to all that "never settle" rhetoric that black women were spewing???? Oh yeah...it only applied to black men...🤣🤣🤣 Your post definitely sounds like you "settled"...😂😂😂

[@purenoire]

@@docshay7328 oh gosh, sorry if it mislead you in that way. I most definitely did not settle, anything but in fact. Just to clarify my point was that the image in my mind was just there as an presumed view of my self from the outside world perspective, and whilst I tried to attain that, it was (for me) not worth the constant backlash from the black males I received. Therefore, I reevaluated my wants, needs and desires realising that what I want, need and desire does not have to come in a certain package and my previous precieved preference was in fact not my own but an idea I had conformed to. With that in mind I opened up my 'dating pool' which allowed me to continue to date black men, and other ethnicities with the only prerequisite of being "handsome/attractive" which thankfully lead me to a man who fulfills my wants, needs and desires and I am blessed enough to call my husband. Thanks for your reply though, at least I've been able to explain and clear up your confusion.

[@AllPro777]

Your problem wasn't with black men. Your problem was accepting a submissive role and accepting that a masculine will have expectations of you, so you retreated to a male who had low standards. That's just sad.

[@purenoire]

@@AllPro777 AllPro777 not all males have this "expectation". My role as the feminine in the relationship isn't to be dictated to. Moreover, my mannerisms or appearance are not masculine or dominant. That's a large assumption on your part. None of what I've stated has indicated that. My hair, speech and other aspects are part of me as a whole. I dont believe a relationship should be built on one or the others demands, feminine or masculine it should be based on something bigger (compatibility, consideration, mutual respect). Your idea of masculine and feminine is quite toxic by the sounds of it. To be feminine is not to be completely submissive. I'm a female human, not a dog.

[@paulf144]

I am a college educated black man and I don't know any successful black men (blue collar or white collar) that don't check for black women. Something that I do know is that the women in the 40+ age range are not single simply because of the shortcomings of the men that they meet............

[@VELLLSails]

Just selfish

[@gobot581]

@Britt J some divorce good black men. Others get knocked up by some hood dude and get passed up some get to old before they realize that the dude she thought was corny or weird in high school actually makes the best husband but by then it’s too late. Some set standards that other race of women don’t care as much such as 6 foot 6 pack dick requirements and again by the time they realize that’s not the recipe to a husband it’s too late. Plenty of reasons but what I’ve noticed that differs from black women and all other races is their timing and requirements don’t fall in line with any other race of women while the rest seem to value similar things so if the rest get better results is it the men’s fault?

[@jghifiversveiws8729]

@@gobot581 It's the rule of 6s. You gotta be over 6', with a 6 pack, a 6 inch dick, and a 6 figure salary.

[@1cambiamos]

I don’t have to try….I can just be? While the Bm has to be rich, 6’1”, handsome, a lawyer, a thug., Jeremy Meeks with the jawbone and stuff…..but you can just be huh? How’s that working out?

[@doolysand6496]

i see a lot black women dating other races but people chose to focus only on black men! i hear black women saying “ i want a pretty baby”

[@doolysand6496]

SARA Some black men! i don’t think like that

[@shawneegirl1980]

@Trey Diggz okay then she clearly isn't talking about you...lol

[@jesuswilljudge7296]

Yup just go on these ir couples youtube page, go on chrissie, pink pill lady, these bw are just as bad as the bm, they want a mixed child with good hair . Read the comments sections and u will see they all say these comments its disgusting

[@jesuswilljudge7296]

@Know thy Self but u obviously watching my comments all up in my conversation fool, so whos the hyprocrite now!!!! Thats what i thought

[@shawntelmonroe3338]

I have 4 beautiful black babies. That would be sad to here a black woman say that. Its sick.

[@captaineveryman6589]

Why are they always focused on celebrities and rappers? Then they ignore the men that are interested in then in their own social circles. It's all B.S. All these women have had plenty of Black men interested in them. For whatever reason, these women are hungry for approval from mainstream society, and that should be irrelevant to them.

[@princelevi1804]

I love black girls but you must be natural... I don’t like wigs , weaves

[@theresag1969]

Hahaha. Like you have a say as to how she looks. Put a ring on it before you think you can control it. Girls, run from a controlling dude like this one. Dude, pick a woman like you want and stop controlling her or she will find someone who won't

[@lifelove6164]

It's funny how you say that yet when we say we want a man that comes already together, you know have a nice size cash flow, we are degraded.

[@Maxrepfitgm]

@@lifelove6164 You're not degraded you're just single. It's far easier for us to find women with natural hair then it is for you to find faithful men who won't just pump and dump you. You want to sell yourself then do so with pride sister.

[@princelevi1804]

1969Vanessa G I’m not controlling.. I see some black girls with natural hair and they look so beautiful ... black woman natural hair is beautiful and strong but y’all don’t see the beauty

[@princelevi1804]

life love I don’t need cash flow to get a woman with natural ... I live in the suburbs and there’s a lot of women with natural hair ...

[@damones1]

Why do Black folks put so much effort into this. Just be with who you want to be with and stop expecting someone to want to be with you, because of the same Ethnicity. This is ridiculous.

[@mr.rationale8808]

Stop blaming Black men for your personal hangups and insecurities. It's all in your head. If you stopped trying to compete with men and instead tried to be a helpmeet, your lives would be MUCH simpler and easier. Majority of Black men and really ALL men have SIMPLE NEEDS.

[@gntsuwproverbs3136]

*Black women share their challenges with dating black men.* her: "I want him to submit, but he wants to be a Man instead. What should I do?" her #2: "girl! Tell him if he doesn't do what you want, you are going to accuse him of something he didn't do. That works for me." The women: "Amen, girl!".

[@tianitra]

you have quite the imagination

[@rickygene6657]

THESE CLOWNS HAVE THE TIME THEY HAVE A GOOD BLACK MAN BUT CHEAT WITH THE POOKIE IN RAY RAYS IN THEIR YOUNGER YEARS THEN WHEN THEY GET OLDER THEY WANT THE GOOD GUY BUT BY THAT TIME THE GOOD MEN ARE WITH TAKEN SO BLACK WOMEN NEED TO GET IT TOGETHER BECAUSE BLACK MEN ARENT HAVING A ISSUE GETTING MARRIED .

[@Righteousone18]

Dating as a black man or woman is hard in this country. So many bitter and broken people on both sides. I've given up dating here. I have been to Africa and I plan to go back. Hopefully I'll find a wife there

[@dudefaceperson7422]

I'm probably 2 years too late, but everyone has baggage.

[@ctruth6185]

Bless you on your journey.

[@emerywills5814]

America needs more foreign Black men who will fight to protect their families and land. Things will be better here when men rise to the occasion. Cowardice is rampant but I believe those men could save it.

[@nonino1644]

3 years later… How did the journey end?

[@Righteousone18]

@@nonino1644 Covid kind of derailed my plans. But, I’m still going back to the motherland for a wife. Lord willing

[@1cambiamos]

Men are here for the woman that’s interested in them. Minus race. No bm are not checking for you all the time. And if he is checking for you that only means a bunch of you have told him no. These women act like a bm can’t have preferences in who he decided to date.

[@vividhaiku]

hahaha a huge group of women talking about men with no male representation except for Carlton there. LOL.

[@s-madegames]

Lmao

[@prometheus200]

First off, any man, black or other, that doesn’t treat a black womanhood like a queen, ain’t worthy of no woman period!

[@butterfly2946]

Amen.

[@MsDesiree39]

then bw need to earn that title

[@messengeroftruth9633]

Renee Moore na, we just move on to someone who can See we have that title already.

[@MsDesiree39]

ha! if u think non blck men are gonna stick around when bw start acting up the behaviours tht give them a bad rep u r sorely mistaken. they will be done with any bw like that cause they've got a lot of other choices

[@messengeroftruth9633]

Renee Moore non blk men don’t really go for the stereotypical “ghetto” blk women, unlike black men.. they get the top notch classy blk women.

[@serious7179]

The second lady with the short hair was so contradictory.. first off she says that no black men wanted her, only white man were attracted to her, but then she says that she only wants to black men because black man are there for her and they understand her.. what kind of sense does that make? If people don't want you, I don't care how much they look like you or how much shared trauma you have. Go for the people who actually love you and appreciate you.

[@heathertea2704]

How can you exclude ALL BLACK MEN, when you haven't met them all?💁 That's the same conversation from a BLACK MALE with the SAME mindset about SISTAS. imo

[@NuancedSkeptic]

Heather TEA Exactly. Social media doesn’t represent every black man that exits. We (black people) are not a monolith. That goes for black men too.

[@jesuswilljudge7296]

I agree

[@cherylb4408]

African Americans have deep seated pain.... please focus on healing ... As an African woman, I will acknowledge we have our own healing to do, but I empathise with African American women because the rejection you feel from black men is just sad and painful to watch!!

[@Tag6488]

B 1 don’t say that too loudly. They never take responsibility.

[@s-madegames]

The same can be said about black men to in regards to your final sentence.

[@AnimeBoysOnly]

They need to date out and stop whinning over black men

[@juniorhector9582]

Don’t feel sorry for them because they black men who want them they don’t want those black men they think they’re and look down on them.

[@KG-tu3rk]

@@AnimeBoysOnly Other races of men don’t want you

[@pjnla]

Love who loves you back. Take care of who takes care of you. Really tired of hearing “the black man”. Why not the brothas that you have chosen to be with. This conversation is tired at this point.

[@dumpd6227]

Agree 100 % black women need to start thinking out of the box and date outside of their race and out of the country like African men. Date men that want to date them

[@jesuswilljudge7296]

We been telling american bw there are other bm out there like in africa or other countries but they want brad with the good hair and blue eyes smh

[@WBrizzle81]

This is one of the most - inadvertently - honest conservations I've heard from black women. "Black men don't want us" really translates to "(Influential, Successful) Black men aren't validating us by granting us the first right of refusal." Makes me wonder if they actually want black men or simply validation?...And if they get the type of validation they want, then what? I admit I'm taking a slight jump in reasoning, but validation is one of those things that has to continually "one-up" itself. So okay, we designate them our top choice by promoting and selecting dark skinned black women when we're at our most successful and at the prime of our influence and desirability, then what? Will we see some perfect "Black Love Utopia?" I suspect not really. It'll most likely then shift to Universal Validation where they're now seeking the status they believe other groups of women have - the first right of refusal for ALL successful, powerful, and influential men. Starts to look and sound quite narcissistic if you think about it long enough 🤔.

[@emerywills5814]

What?

[@Curtis_George]

Very well said

[@kinte1870]

You're right. Their talking about celebrities which is why they said the industry. Most bm aren't in the industry but that's who they focus on.

[@ShakaylaMeTwan]

At the end of the day men are men. I’ve dealt with rejection from black men and it’s hard. What I’ve gained from these experiences is to be more open. A great guy can come in any race so I get to know the ones that reach out to me and treat me with respect and dignity.

[@computerblue1000]

Dealt with rejection from a black man 😂. Women turn down men all the time, that’s like an average day when a man is looking for a woman.

[@jonathancoleman7148]

Lmao

[@fyafeelings7673]

@Nicole burnett I'm married to queen of high melanin and I'm black myself but I can agree on some of what was stated above. Especially about the the term "rejection" when it comes to females.

[@intelligencehaswon5714]

@@computerblue1000 Women are not used to being constantly rejected by men like men are by women, hence the conversation in the video above, in Essence magazine, etc. Men are told to suck up, move on and try again.

[@ciara318]

This conversation is so overdone 😂just dead we gonna keep talking about it till the day we die. Date outside and be happy instead of complaining black men don’t give a F please don’t chat this in 2020 just stop bleh 😂🤷🏽‍♀️

[@mrsgolden6526]

You are so right it's like they don't want to let go the struggle and suffering For some people it's hard to be happy even if they could

[@komododrag5232]

The hell if this talking critical gonna help.u black men or thru with them👋👋

[@godlovescouture8605]

Time is too short. I say Go, where you are celebrated. Who’s to say your happiness can only be with your same race. Life is what you make it.

[@godlovescouture8605]

Trey Diggz I just don’t believe in convincing others of your worth. Black or white. The right person will see your value. If a black guy is not attracted to me because of my hair, he wasn’t for me. Think we all have preferences, and that’s ok. Everybody is not meant for you. But I’m not passing up viable options, just so I can be with someone who looks like me ???

[@mustafael-amin9163]

You would think that the person who owns this network will talk about some reparations land sovereignty police brutality on a everyday basis instead of this bulshit that's family business

[@wg5717]

They're too stupid to know who their enemy is.

[@courylanders4142]

This gets Blk folks going.