Hammer Eye Drift - Atlantic 33

[@Aco747lyte]

My apprentice blacksmith daughter thanks you for this, John. Have a lovely Sunday!

[@BlackBearForge]

Glad to help

[@robsonsantosOSO]

This power hammer has 3 valuable characteristics: firmness, precision and smoothness. It's really nice to see your work.

[@cholulahotsauce6166]

And it's inexhaustible.

[@carpetania47]

From Toledo Spain Good job, good result... Thank you!...

[@brianfalls5038]

That Flutagon is some mighty interesting metal John. I still find it fascinating that it doesn't have to be tempered at all. Just heat it up and quench it in the water. It doesn't get any simpler than that.

[@SchysCraftCo.]

Good Morning John. It's always good to see ur videos. Always learning from them. Can't wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On Keep making. God bless.

[@BlackBearForge]

Thanks 👍

[@SchysCraftCo.]

@@BlackBearForge your very welcome.

[@olddawgdreaming5715]

Good morning John, another fine video on making more tools. Always some great information in your videos. Thanks for sharing with us. Stay safe and keep up with your fun too. Fred.

[@BlackBearForge]

Thanks 👍

[@FallenAnvilForge]

Looking forward to see how this metal actually holds up with use. Thanks for the video John.

[@wayneheitz8390]

Be safe and well, thank you for all of your work 👏👏

[@erikcourtney1834]

It’s funny that I did the exact same thing yesterday with the same material. Only difference is mine was shorter and got welded to a die plate to use under my press. It’s no h13 but a-33 works pretty good. Plus like you said you can just quench it in water while it’s hot to cool it off and keep on going.

[@Vikingwerk]

Clean work as usual! Thanks for teaching us.

[@paulerickson1906]

Beautiful.

[@markmoreno7295]

I am guessing that this metal is easier to forge than H13 at the anvil but longer lasting than 4140 when used for drifts?

[@OuroborosArmory]

Hmmm I need one of these that’s for showing the process as it makes it a little eaiser when I get to making it

[@rustybow7293]

Interesting tool you used for shaping in conjunction with the power hammer.

[@frankgaletzka8477]

Hello John Thank you for this quick Video. It is possible to Do this all by Hand but it is very hard to Do it. But it is possible and without elektrical oder water Power Take care have a good New week Yours Frank Galetzka

[@frenchcreekvalley]

A small point--- "Flutagon" only refers to the cross sectional shape of that particular piece of Atlantic 33 that you started with. Atlantic Steel Corp has many other shapes available in the "Atlantic 33" alloy. FYI--- COMPOSITION: Carbon Manganese Chromium Nickel Molybdenum .30-.40 .35-.40 .65-.85 .35-.55 .55-.75 Copper Silicon .35-.55 .50-.70

[@fredfchopin]

I'm also making one of these from A33, except I now call it "magical happy steel" and I'm ordering a lot more of it. Also I'm trying to combine a hammer eye drift and a hammer punch into the same tool, so we'll see how that goes. Mostly just made it a lot longer and took the taper down a lot farther, so we'll see how it works. I've got a 1 1/4" bar of magical happy steel left that I've already cut off a 4" piece for a small hammer, so we'll test out the combination punch/drift and see how it works. If it doesn't work, I can easily cut it in half and re-taper it a bit into two tools so I figure it'll be fine no matter what. Not sure if a combination punch/drift is viable but I'll never learn anything if I don't experiment so I figured I'll just make the tool and see what happens.

[@fredfchopin]

Update: tool ended up being too long to be a particularly effective punch and the other end was a bit too skinny for the size hammer eye I wanted, so ended up cutting the end off and now I have a nice hammer eye punch that's just long enough for me to hold comfortably and punch all the way through a hammer head. Ended up making the cut off piece into a center punch since I needed one of those anyway. I've got one bar of magical happy steel left at 1 1/4" by maybe 8" so I'll just make a hammer eye drift out of that now that I have access to a power hammer.

[@iraqiforever3665]

I am still looking to your tools..nice job .. like from IRAQ

[@Bangalangs]

Another excellent video. That flutagon seems like it’d be with the investment.

[@fredfchopin]

I got some of it after his last video and it's amazing! I just call it magical happy steel now.

[@jowus9999]

Thank You that was a great video, but was where the final dimensions of that drift?

[@HisWayHomestead]

Great video John! How do you determine the size and shape for the eye drift?

[@BlackBearForge]

Start with the handle you want to use, then use it as a reference for the drift.

[@HisWayHomestead]

@@BlackBearForge thanks John!

[@masonfrancis6257]

I was wondering what kind of steels are worth using for this. For example if it remains cold enough could cold rolled steel be enough?

[@BlackBearForge]

Mild steels are OK for occasional use drifts, but it won't hold up to serious use. The Atlantic 33, S7 and 4140 are all good steels for making drifts

[@adroaldoribeiro4529]

Maybe its too late to ask, but how does it compare to h13 in a matter of performance? Because it looks much easier to forge, h13 is a pain in the rear to hand forge.

[@wackywixted]

Do you know where one could find a steel specification sheet for the Atlantic 33? It's basically impossible to get your hands on in Australia, but I would really like being able to read through the data to understand more about it.

[@deryiousbarzee627]

Good morning

[@BRICKSHOWISCOOL]

Good morning

[@BlackBearForge]

Morning

[@foodananda]

Good morning. Thanks for the video. What's the difference between hammer drift and punch? And instead of flutagon can I use tool steel or c45?

[@BlackBearForge]

A punch creates the hole and a drift refines the final shape. They can be on in the same at times, but they are often better off being better off as separate tools. You can use any material you are comfortable working with.

[@Grunt49]

Flutagon seems to retain a good heat.

[@wackywixted]

That's a characteristic of working under a power hammer. You are hitting it both hard enough and fast enough that the internal friction generates heat, which significantly increases your available forging time. You can achieve this yourself with small stock. A good test of skills is to take cold steel, hit it quickly enough to make it glow then light your fire from that.

[@alanspeert8351]

How much do you loose to scale

[@BlackBearForge]

not enough to worry about

[@The-nn6kr]

I’m sure this question has been asked a lot but what is the tool that you laid on top of the work while in the power hammer? Almost looks like a spatula

[@BlackBearForge]

Thats a style of flatter ideally suited for use under the power hammer

[@The-nn6kr]

@@BlackBearForge did not expect a reply so quickly!! Thanks. I’m loving your channel! Is the face of the power hammer not flat then?

[@BillyBOB-sm3rl]

Did you eye bawl it or use calipers?

[@BlackBearForge]

Just by eye. In the end the handle has to be fit to the tool being made, so an exact eye size isn't that critical.

[@davidwright4363]

Hey John how much would you charge for a hammer eye drift? I don’t have a power hammer and am not confident in doing it by hand.

[@BlackBearForge]

I'm afraid that isn't something I make for sale

[@Dreadnought9411]

Hello...after using flutagon for over a year now...what are your thoughts???

[@BlackBearForge]

Its good steel, but not always easy to find

[@lukecope4212]

Hey John do you sell drifts like that at all? For whatever reason I struggle getting the right shape and taper on my drifts and they're not very ususable.

[@BlackBearForge]

Sorry, but I don't make this type of tool for sale. You might check Brent Bailey for forged drifts or Pieh Tool for cast ductile iron, both are good products

[@lukecope4212]

@@BlackBearForge do you make any tools for sale? I've found I enjoy your blacksmithing videos the most out of any others I've seen so far. If you do I'd like to support you, and if not thank you very much for steering me in the direction who does sell them!

[@daspooner2528]

If I would pay you for a knife a good quality one that’s cool and pleasing to look at but also can be used day to day could you make it?

[@whuop-wadeshumbleopinion625]

Would 1050 tool steel work for this, I have plenty of it. Never quenched anything in water yet. Curious if you could share some wisdom…thank you!

[@stuffbywoody5497]

Flutagon, hmm. Would be interesting to know how well it stands up to the job. I think I need to find out more about this steel.

[@michaelchase418]

I wish I could afford a powerhammer.

[@mikebeatstsb7030]

Everytime your Power Hammer lands +hits to me, it sounds like it's saying... Stop 🛑 Stop 🛑 Stop 🛑 Stop 🛑 Stop 🛑 Stop 🛑 Stop Stop 🛑 Stop 🛑 Stop 🛑 Stop 🛑

[@hoernchenmeister3216]

Could you be my grandpa please :D Greetings from Frankfurt Germany.

[@StanErvin-yo9vl]

Been 7 months. What's the verdict? I had one that was a beast. Only used it once. Adz eye drift. Made from my favorite, S7 oil hardening from jackhammer bits. Had a fellow that was employed by the local scrapyard that would call me when he would get good stuff in. Got a lot of my ¼" (13 mm) plate from him that was obviously cutoffs from a jobber because it was 8 pieces plasma cut just shy of 9" wide fully 8' long. Paid maybe $75 Uncle Sam Stamps iirc. 🐾🔥⚒️🪝