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[@tony_w839]

Please warn not to click on any link in an email unless you are totally confident of the source, then think twice. The link could be a connection to ransomware.

[@user-mv5zt8qd9l]

I was going to comment pretty much the same thing. If I see something like this I go on the app or website (manually through my browser). If the questionable invoice isn't there when you open the site legitimately then chances are it's fake.

[@barbd5607]

Just delete the email and go to the app.

[@mikeypeters7003]

@@barbd5607 The point to the video, the estimate WAS in PayPal, and sent through ebay. So in this case, it would not help.

[@brolohalflemming7042]

I think the reason why this one works is because it's actually from PayPal. So scammer sets up a PayPal account, which allows estimates as part of the legitimate service. So scammers use this feature, then create the 'Note' to make it looks like it was a legitimate note from PayPal, not the scammer. So they add their own phone number and phish for victims. I suspect the way it works next is it'll use the note you send back to generate an actual invoice as if you've accepted the estimate. Then you'd have to go through PayPal's dispute process to deal with it. So they're exploiting an actual PayPal feature, and it's worth forwarding to the official PayPal scam/abuse address. It's why the header verification works, because they are using PayPal's system to generate the notes.

[@firsteerr]

@@barbd5607 no send the e mail to the scam department of pay pal or who ever

[@stevegee8010]

PayPal must be aware of this, so what's worrying is they've not sent out any warnings to their customers, or at least I've not had anything from them.

[@m3photo726]

They’re too busy dealing with their own woke stupidity scam trying to steal 2500$ from you by accusing you of saying some home truth or other on the internet. Backtracking from that is taking them some considerable effort. It turns out they “misinformed” about “misinformation” fines … What a lovely world …

[@peterw4338]

In simple terms, it appears that the scammers have highjacked the PayPal Server and piggybacked part of the server for their own use. PayPal will not wish to admit that. (a sever could be located and mirrored over several sites and countries). (I have 35 years professional IT experience with corporate customers including major banks)

[@EwanMarshall]

@@peterw4338 Not so much, this is a legitimate service paypal provides so contractors can send out estimates for work contracts, then they can easily be converted to invoices and paid through paypal later. Nothing fundamentally wrong with the service, scammers of course will use anything they can.

[@peterw4338]

@@EwanMarshall Good point

[@howardosborne8647]

Paypal are bunch of shits. They obviously couldn't care tuppence for their customer's security.....another one of Musk's monsters.

[@clazzagee]

You're fast becoming a champion of the people. Really like this content.

[@BlackBeltBarrister]

😁👍

[@mazzid9973]

@@BlackBeltBarrister AGREE 👍 even though from Australia 🇦🇺 these things happen here! I am not dumb, I log in and check for myself what action is on my account. THEN I BLOCK 🚫 the offending email. 👍💯🐨🇦🇺🦘THAN YOU ALL THE SAME💞🦘

[@BlackBeltBarrister]

@@mazzid9973 Thank you 😊 🙏

[@paulbaker2098]

@@mazzid9973 Be careful: if you block the email it will block legitimate PayPal messages. Trust me I could not find anything wrong with the message - it came from PayPal!

[@jue8176]

I won’t fall for it because I close my account a long time ago so any mail from them just get sent to the bin

[@howardosborne8647]

Me too.

[@howareyou857]

And me. Got a form of this email and thought it strange . Ignored it

[@jue8176]

@@howareyou857 best thing you can do I close my account a long time ago and if I do get anything from PayPal it goes right into the bin I never open anything that I haven’t asked for .i don’t open a lot of mail because it’s just rubbish are scammers 👍you did the right thing

[@BionicRusty]

Well done BB. 👍 I always contact the company via their website or even Twitter and ask them if it’s real or a scam. I NEVER click on a ‘Contact Us’ button from within the email because obviously this will direct you right to the scammers door.

[@glennjanot8128]

I use Thunderbird as my email client and when you hover your mouse cursor over the link, you see the real link at the bottom

[@musicmememachine2998]

@@glennjanot8128 yes me too, but in this case (I've had the same scam email) the links all appear genuine, so it's a good scam, if not from the inside.

[@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391]

If I get a text that's suspicious, I always google what the text says to see if it's a scam, I almost missed out on free data over Christmas because I'm so suspicious.

[@Johnny-sj9sj]

Don’t click on it? Quite right too! I have received about six of these over the past couple of weeks, and your best bet is to access your PayPal account in the normal way on the legit website and you’ll get any messages if they’ve sent them legitimately.

[@archstanton5603]

Following Disability-Discrimination by Paypal (long story involving Sec.20 Equality Act) I closed my Paypal account (they tried to stop me from doing this) and blocked all further e-mails from Paypal. - I am still here, life is carrying on as usual so clearly I didn't need Paypal!

[@John-the-Bass]

I also closed my pay pal account for the same reason. Well done!

[@admiralackbar9307]

I closed my paypal account also, because they behave like the CCP

[@captaindunsell8568]

It’s not just PayPal being used this way. Amazon, PayPal, even credit card companies

[@fatheadcat9958]

The clue here is PayPal never ask for money you owe, they just take it :)

[@Mviews-hb4ib]

I'm impressed! I got one thismorning and googled the number . I've reported it

[@Mviews-hb4ib]

Then went to PayPal site and discovered I don't even have PayPal so it definitely can't be just a list of account emails from PayPal it's people who have never set one up also

[@dogsallowed7]

I hope paypal are looking into this. Valuable information as always 🙏🏼

[@kyranar935]

The problem is that Paypal will not let you delete your account. They claim there is a pending transaction and refuse to close the account / unlink your bank info.

[@slimjimpui]

@@kyranar935 I deleted my account no probs; they sent me a message saying "Sorry you're leaving" and advised me that I could open a new account at any time

[@Johnny-sj9sj]

PS: addendum to my above comment, sorry about the typos; KZbin won’t allow me to edit my comment, but I’m sure you get my drift. Best wishes and good luck! And thank you, BBB!

[@gernblanston4956]

Dump PP like most everyone else has

[@vision_thing]

you can check the X-originator for the IP of where it came from in the email header, which will likely not be paypal.

[@alangordon3283]

I do that every time for all and any e mail

[@formicapple2]

That’s what I do, but look very carefully.

[@BlackBeltBarrister]

It actually was indeed PayPal!

[@vi6ddarkking]

Considering The Recent Paypal Mess The Timing Of This Scam Is Somewhat Less Than Ideal.

[@pelinoregeryon6593]

That depends who you are, from the scammers perspective it is ideal, that's why their are so many of them right now.

[@shadowsilverlight1651]

you cant blame paypal for a scammer sending you an invoice through them. no more than you can blame post office for delivering a fake invoice to you. the scammers are who are at fault, they are just using businesses like paypal to scam people. this is gonna happen to all these types of businesses.

[@interdiction2]

Didn't PayPal (or maybe they still do) always use your first name as a form of security on the assumption that scammers won't know your actual PayPal registration details?

[@doglifehub]

I'm actively trying to find other ways to receive money from a couple of US companies, then I'm closing my PayPal account. After the recent revelations about them, and the way they treated Toby Young etc. I will have nothing to do with them.

[@Haywood-Jablomie]

the Left Wing side of the Canadian government has made deals with PayPal and GoFundMe as well as other platforms that accept money whether it's payment services or charities or crowdfunding, the deals basically state that they can ban conservatives or right wingers and that the payment companies must comply. Pure corruption

[@desres2281]

What's a good alternative??? I'd like to close my account for the same reason! 👍👍

[@Haywood-Jablomie]

@@desres2281 Many people are reverting back to using their Debit and Credit cards directly online... but depending on your country that could also still be risky because many countries and Banks may not have security measures for you in case you get your information stolen.

[@doglifehub]

@@desres2281 My problem is that two companies, which I rely on for some of my income, will only pay to PayPal outside of the US. I'm trying to persuade them to use other methods.

[@EwanMarshall]

@@Haywood-Jablomie And if stolen, doesn't stop someone using the card information in a different country to you.

[@THEJR-of5tf]

Thank you for for giving us more sound advice. Your videos are a great source of how to avoid scams.

[@janetbowersox83]

Love all the knowledge you willingly pass on......very helpful!

[@CptCactus-11-20-6]

There have been a lot of scams involving Paypal recently. The most convincing are the ones that actually use PayPal to send an invoice to you. They use the description/more information boxes in the invoice to make it more convincing. PayPal really needs to get on top of these scams.

[@shadowsilverlight1651]

ive had that happen twice. was sent 2 different invoices with same exact amount. they hope that you just go pay it and not question what it is. but seeing a $650 invoice and not buying anything nearly close to that amount, i knew it was bullshit

[@unclemarksdiyauto]

Thanks you so much for making us aware of this scam! The scammers are getting better all the time!

[@krissio100]

That's actually a good job exposing that. Thanks!

[@multirole240]

Many many thanks for all your help and warnings and taking the time to post

[@stephenoliver1437]

It surly should be reported to PayPal for possible investigation for fraud

[@vinnylee878]

I got rid of PayPal when they went dystopian and wanted to fine people for speaking what's on their minds,I wish PayPal all the worst

[@mikewurlitzer5217]

As did I my friend! I would not be too sure this scam is not of PayPal origin as they must be hemorrhaging money with all the canceled accounts after their new TOS.

[@InJusticeAustralia]

Perfect timing! As I got this email today, and even being scam wary, I was questioning this one as it looked so convincing, using PayPal’s email, good English (rare), and their logos etc. Thanks for sharing.

[@paulsawtell3991]

Yes but you didn't request the estimate for whatever it is!

[@bobnicholson6118]

As I've deleted my paypal account in light of their actions with the daily sceptic I'm not worried but useful info nonetheless.

[@StephenSwindells]

Just close your PayPal account anyway.

[@thetruthwillout9094]

Good job I have cancelled my PayPal account last week.

[@rochellewant5418]

Thank you sooo much for this important message 🙏🏼🥰

[@chesshooligan1282]

For anyone who still doesn't know, Paypal recently added a clause to their terms and conditions whereby they could help themselves to $2,500 of your money if you engaged in "misinformation." They, of course, would be the ones to decide what is and isn't misinformation. The clause has been removed after massive backlash, but nobody should be using Paypal any more.

[@shadowsilverlight1651]

😂😂😂 they already backtracked on that….if you hate paypal, just dont use it

[@chesshooligan1282]

@@frankmurray1549 Google Pay and Apple Pay, I believe, or just use your credit/debit card.

[@bullcrap4243]

@@chesshooligan1282 Google Pay and Apple Pay HA HA WHATS WORSE

[@chesshooligan1282]

@@bullcrap4243 Not a fan of those two either, but they can't be as bad as Paypal. Any other ideas?

[@howardosborne8647]

Not just the clause that got removed. It prompted me and several others I know to remove Paypal as a future payment option.

[@darrengosling3477]

Keep up the good and informative work its much appreciated 🙂

[@Stormingnj]

Very good. I hope you informed PayPal and gave them all that information.

[@DIPU1036]

Such hard work listening to you.

[@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN]

Comming up to Christmas is usually the most active time for scams, there'll be many more to come.

[@cchivers2665]

Thank you for the reassurance. I have received a number of these, but addressing me by the wrong name, so I assumed that IF it was legitimate, the person in question would eventually let Paypal know. Rather be safe than sorry, I did not click on anything, thank goodness!

[@heartweddingsphotography2490]

Thank you for the advice, very much appreciated 🙂

[@jerrygeorgopolis8015]

BBB, Interesting information on this. Particularly pointing out how this scammer used an actual PayPal link to piggyback itself too !! I have been receiving other forms of this scam. Mostly claiming I owe money on and order, I know I never placed. I put my Spam blocker to good use. Thank you and all the best to you and yours.

[@craigwilliams6734]

Very good Daniel! I cannot believe Paypal have not addressed this issue ASAP!! Also, surely people would know if they know any money they owe in the first place...? Anyway, I always delete all that crap quicker than it comes in!

[@geoffwright9570]

Never used PayPal or ever going to. Any company that I'm making a purchase from wants payment by PayPal will loose my order.

[@shadowsilverlight1651]

and you seriously think paypal is the ONLY financial institute that has done stupid shit? please.

[@joebloggs4807]

Knowledge is empowering, thanks for the heads up.

[@999jay999]

Came here due to PayPal Scam! warning, went away feeling I need that VAC machine...

[@bullcrap4243]

ME TOO The missus aint doing it for me at the moment

[@carabingham3207]

I’ve had similar emails claiming to be from PayPal. But saying “payment request” and if I don’t contact them then the money will be withdrawn. I didn’t do anything, nothing was taken out of my account but I’m sure if I had contacted them the scammer would have asked me for my details and scammed me that way. In a eat it’s scary how clever these scams are

[@a.person3986]

Thank you for the warning 😮. Seems PayPal would be on this like a frog on a June-bug and improve their internal security so they can detect these security breaches quickly. You give most informative and clear explanations and are appreciated 😊 ❤.

[@mikewurlitzer5217]

I would not put it pass PayPal to be part of this scam as they must be hemorrhaging money after their new "Terms of Service" and threats of $2,500 fines for posting something they don't agree with. I canceled PayPal within 3 minutes of receiving that threat. My understanding is it has been a tsunami of cancellations with this new TOS that PayPal then tried to lie about and say it was an error.

[@janegreen9340]

You and Martin Lewis should be working together for us! Thank you!

[@rosariacarlostella9105]

Thanks for the heads up

[@tidysampler585]

Once a time, I used to receive a ridiculous amount of scam email’s! It’s astonishing how using “a” VPN can change all that. I never press a link in an email now. Always go into said account and check for actual communication.

[@SpikeXtreme]

All banks and building societies tell their customers they will never ever ask their customers details about their debit or credit cards. They don't need too because they have your details. The same rules apply to any payment service.

[@EwanMarshall]

This is actually being done through paypals estimating service, part of the scam is they'll convert the estimate to an invoice through paypal if you accept the estimate: | Can I convert estimates into invoices? | Convert your estimate into an invoice at any time. Your customer doesn’t need to accept the estimate through PayPal for you to convert it into an invoice. That is also why the email did in fact come from paypal. In future if you are not sure though, your security measures were not enough, at least use a virtual machine to isolate just in case the link leads to malware.

[@heeeeeresrossy]

Got this very email the other day. Instant delete & report job. I've been too long at this thing we call the internet to fall for that nonsense. But kudos for making people aware of this kind of slimy scam 👌

[@derickl436]

Excellent work as always, thank you. Out of curiosity, where does the law stand if you get a scammer’s email address and reply to them by sending a virus?

[@robinanderson1115]

THE LAW DOSENT GIVE A FU _ K. IF UR JUST A ODINARY PERSON.

[@dougforbes6742]

Good Video BBB, I feel one should be telling people not to send any messages on PayPal to any billing company as that message would be conformation that one would be accepting the bill put to you/Them. I personally get bored with spoof emails from PayPal so closed my Account

[@otsef1946]

Thanks for the information 👍

[@Human2Ai2030]

Very good info , thanks for the heads up. The hackers are getting more sophisticated ...

[@naiboz]

I got basically the same yesterday for 600 quid, an invoice from PayPal, everything checked out, apart from the lunacy of an invoice from PayPal from a third party

[@MrPuzzles]

"Nord HAS NOT paid me! ....But they DO pay me."

[@jp5125]

hey i got this one yesterday as well!

[@SimonLondon]

I have received three of these emails. Another way to discover that this is a scam - there is a phone number in the text of the body of the email, this text is entered by the scammer on the notes section of the invoice they are sending you to make it read more genuine - the phone number is a scam call centre. Do NOT call the phone number in the body of the email as you will be talking to the scammers, not PayPal.

[@carollewis5072]

Thank you so much I have shared this

[@83Roboto]

Nice catch. Hopefully you have notified Paypal of this scam. They need to close the loop on stuff like this.

[@odargoo4298]

I Had 3 emails today for the same amount £650. But saying I had bought eBay gift cards. reported & deleted them.

[@beckyk408]

Thanks for this because I received this email a couple of days ago and although I was sure enough it was a scam that I forwarded it to the PayPal scam reporting email address, but was still a bit unsure because like you said, it was sent from paypal, which I've never seen before in a scam! I asked them if it was a scam but they've not responded. I am now reassured that I'm not going to get £600 taken from my account. Subscribed :)

[@TravelsWithSophia]

PayPal itself is a scam

[@jeanyuen8547]

An elderly man I know answered this and as it looked so real he lost 5 thousand pounds, this has totally destroyed him as he can't believe he was scammed.

[@philf5043]

Can you not forward it to PayPal for them to take action against the perpetrator ?

[@beckyk408]

I got this email a few days ago (also addressed to "killo Carter") and forwarded it to the PayPal scam reporting email address, asking them to confirm it is a scam. Not heard back. But I'm not a lawyer!

[@jonkirk2118]

Thanks. The other giveaway before even checking the email headers was the shoddy English. No-one at Paypal would say "...from billing department of Paypal". That looks like a translation of how non-English languages would word it. Also, they seem to start the sentence with "Billing department Of Paypal....", which suggests it's Eastern European, maybe Russian, since when speaking English they normally don't use the definite article "the". It's always a giveaway in their scams. They also capitalised the "Of" for some reason. So, not even remotely convincing!

[@Drew-Dastardly]

Stop being racist - I think you need a $2500 paypal fine. Let me know your account so I can inform on you.

[@Vee-Hive]

@@Drew-Dastardly He's already been fined for this offence, but all people reporting him should be rewarded. Let me know your account info and we'll make arrangements.

[@kevinnorthfield5097]

Had two of these exact emails in last 24 hours, ignored both.

[@josefschiltz2192]

I've had this alot! It immediately gets reported, dumped and blocked.

[@lesliecoler2215]

I got lots of these notices saying I owed money...... So fake and I will rethink using pay pal ever again....

[@thelisteningclinic2170]

Thank you I have received the same email - before I watched this today - I checked the email address looked genuine and rang them - they wanted my bank card details which I did not give ! They were very persistent but I new it was off ! Thanks I watched this and at leat I’m reassured it’s a SCAM !!!

[@Zinglebarb]

Had this a few time, Was quite worrying till I read thew bottombit where it says if not requested you do not need to pay

[@andrewmason8844]

I’ve had a similar thing I get fake emails from virgin media from what seems to be there genuine email account on a daily basis it’s scary how easy it seems to be to do this and even more scary these big company’s seem to be doing nothing to protect there customers

[@andycapp8843]

Having been around for many decades and familiar with banking systems, I have yet to witness a situation where any financial institution posts an estimate for goods and/or services. When asking for a loan for instance, the institution will, or did, send out a proposal, not an estimate, setting out the terms and costs after having a discussion with the individual requesting same.

[@mikee9765]

Every e-mail I have seen that refers to a monetary amount as "GBP" has been a scam!

[@annstar4306]

Thanku Mr BBB 🙋

[@mclarenjohnf1]

Very good pointers I actually was purchasing something through Ebay and when I went to pay it switched to a friends and family payment, I hadn't a clue what that was until it was too late but I managed to get it stopped by my bank.

[@ukeleleEric]

That's another thing to be wary of - if you wouldn't trust someone with that amount of cash, don't buy something via 'friends and family'. I was buying a uke (secondhand) from a private seller online (£110), the seller asked me to do this. I said I wasn't comfortable with it, explaining that it protected him and me if we did it officially. He said, yes, but the fee will cost me about £5. I said, okay - I'll pay you the £5 extra. (all this through the official chat, so both sides were still protected.) I did so, got the uke, and am very happy with it. The seller was happy (since he still go the money without having to re-advertise). I hope the seller has also learnt that it would have protected him in the case of some problem or claim, and doesn't ask people to do it in future.

[@mclarenjohnf1]

@@ukeleleEric Agreed the funny thing was this person wanted me to do the deal through PayPal never a mention of anything else and I had no idea about the other side of the service but now I have, I spent a little while on the phone with their customer protection team who were very very helpful and were going to credit me my money if the bank couldn't sort it out and I was told both parties were getting the law involved with the scammers.

[@madmick9205]

Great info thank you. I do enjoy your content.

[@AdamTaylor-RDL]

haha, i got the same email, instantly binned it as I hadn't been expecting a quote!

[@grannysvids]

I've had plenty of scam emails from PayPal, if you don't recognise any payment requests, just delete the whole thing. Simple as that.

[@colin101981]

Thank you so much.

[@paulaseabee8442]

Whenever I get similarly convincing emails, as soon as it says "click this button" or whatever - I delete it and then actually go through to the official site and then look at the issue.

[@SMariaKS]

I seem to be getting a lot of scam emails lately. I’m a bit paranoid. But I do tend to go to the actual company. But I’m bothered I may be having a “dozy” day one day and mess up.

[@Kev_Partner]

I had this one today, it is indeed very clever. They're gambling on a tiny percentage of people misreading/misunderstanding the big button on that page and initiating a transaction.

[@tonto2455]

Keep the good work going.

[@dottieparker7274]

Yes I get those PayPal mails at least once a week and I don't even have a PayPal account. A real bother because it prevents me from having the confidence to get a PayPal account whereas so many entities use it. Drag. Thanks for the reassurance.

[@greebo6549]

The ONLY emails I open are expected receipts, usually within 15min of a purchase… all others are just deleted

[@AnIrishRover]

You said PayPal and Anyway shape or form, so many times my mind went numb before you reached the end.

[@pauldolman7487]

I Never go through the email, I always go direct to the website account if I can.

[@UKPete]

Really useful info thanks.

[@ZippieHippie]

Thank you 🙏🏽

[@darreno9874]

I've just deleted pay pal. Thanks for all you helpful videos. God bless

[@paullews38]

Thank you!

[@RatBagDad]

I had something similar happen years ago with someone trying to scam my bank details. email looked legit, was directed to opening an electronic dialogue. They kept asking me to give my details but I just responded by getting them to verify who they're talking to. "I know my name, you say you're my bank, you already know my name and address, what is my full name?, would you like to ask me my security question?"... they gave up quite quickly.

[@TheGodOfAllThatWas]

It should probably be noted that once you load up the link that goes to that specific invoice you are at some level telling the site your visiting that you got the message, and you clicked the link, and by extension that your email address is active and you were tempted enough to click the link. The VPN and TOR do not protect you from that.

[@leehenry5764]

I thought you was watching formula 1, until you revealed Jeff🤣

[@alexandersimpson3638]

I never take any notice of any emails from PayPal.. They advised as much to me not to, but rather login to your PayPal directly and never use links..

[@Ready2_Go]

I got a notification that there had been suspicious activity on my PayPal and they froze my account. I hadn't been on PayPal in 6 years or used it so I laughed. They wanted me to log in to fix the problem. Nope, keep it frozen. LoL

[@TOYTYCOONSHOP]

I use PP alot, Haven't had this scam before, but thank you for the head's up.

[@9lavender]

Thank you for this video. I also got a similar email. I knew I couldn't click on the link and didn't know your method for checking into the message so I just deleted it. I believe PayPal is up to some shenanigans in the US regarding their new terms of use. The terms are far reaching and vaguely-worded. They appear to be ways to cheat people out of money.

[@stevesmyth4982]

Ask the scammer to tell you the value of your two most recent PayPal transactions and laugh when they fall silent. Thanks for the alert, Dan.

[@formicapple2]

Thanks for the heads up. Scammers are incredibly sophisticated theses days. I always log into my PayPal account, never clicking on the links in the message and from within my account I look for proof of that request and then act from within PAyPal.

[@roseogrady8785]

Thank You.

[@sgttimmay9151]

Very good video, big fan of the channel. I would say you forgot the obvious. I would leave all links well alone, including phone options. Open up the official app or go to official website for their customer support number to make sure. Personally I've saved PP, Bank, Ebay, etc numbers as I've used them. Never click or respond directly to the received message when in doubt. If there is a scam happening to your account you'll already be talking to the right people.

[@modelrailwaynoob]

It is very simple. Never click on any links in emails. If you have an email that claims to be from anyone you have an account with, just log into your account in the usual way. Ignore emails.