Blacked Out at My Husband's Best Friend's House After Drinking, I Have a Terrible Feeling That He...

Blacked Out at My Husband's Best Friend's House After Drinking, I Have a Terrible Feeling That He SA'ed Me but No One Will Tell Me Anything.
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[@fobinc]

"Jack has a history of going after women who aren't available." "WELL WE BETTER KEEP HANGING OUT WITH HIM!"

[@LadyZubat]

I find it funny that she makes a comment about people victim blaming and hear you are victim blaming

[@fobinc]

​@LadyZubat you don't think both her and her husband are dumb for continuing to hang out with people with a history of going after unavailable women? This isn't victim blaming. It's literally expposing yourself to risks when you don't have to.

[@Vinn_Tree]

It is fair to critique a friend. But if he has patterns of being that touchie guy. You can fair enough say lets stop being friends. Report that mfer too.

[@TheKnightofAwesomeness]

​@@LadyZubatVictim Accountability I call it

[@matsu7086]

GUYS if you ever black out suspiciously or are suspicious that you were violated- FILE A POLICE REPORT, GET A DRUG TEST, AND REQUEST A FORENSIC R KIT FROM THE HOSPITAL. Do it as soon as possible before all evidence is naturally flushed from your body! This type of thing NEEDS to be documented. Proof is king.

[@matsu7086]

Prioritize yourself. Stand up for yourself. Enforce boundaries. Don't just "accept" things happened. Don't move on without taking actions. If nothing happened, great. If something did, then take the appropriate steps and actions. Inaction only enables the abusers actions and allows them the opportunity to potentially further harm you and/or more people.

[@Vic-pg4rg]

For real. OP did a lot of things wrong here. Such as continuing to hang out with a guy that flirts with his friend's wife and is touchy with women. Drinking alcohol with them as single guys are bound to do something stupid with women when drunk. And as you said, didn't get a drug test or forensic kit right away to see if anything actually did happen to her. She said that she felt SA but doesn't remember from being too drunk and have concrete proof aside from feelings and mismatched stories to which again, she should have gotten tested right away. Now she doesn't want to confirm it because she's traumatized by it when she was too drunk to remember and again there's no real actual proof that it happened aside from a butt grab. If I was the husband, I wouldn't bother bringing my wife to my friends who are single and drink a lot to begin with.

[@jdavis7613]

If you have a problem with alcohol and have blacked out, don't drink, even with trusted friends.

[@matsu7086]

@@jdavis7613 What I'm talking is about is certain types of things people slip into drinks. I can't mention specifics since KZbin will filter the comment. You misinterpreted what I said.

[@diivaiinthehouse1]

Am I the only one that feel like they are doing something to the husband too? It sounds like the husband is in his own denial. I hope she find a therapist that helps her work on her self esteem.

[@Gabbz737NEW]

I think they we drugging the husband so they could SA op

[@Extremelybraindeadhumanbeing]

Yeah. This seems like a “me me me me” she didn’t even think about the fact his drink was spiked not hers. I think both of them got raped or they were going to rape the husband but unknowingly got a different person.

[@jsb1585]

This whole dynamic just sounds weird and predatory. I'm listening to the OP describe these incidents and all I'm hearing is alarm bells, Jack is not a good dude.

[@MegaHarvickFan29]

This whole situation is just weird. OP knows she has an issue with alcohol but keeps drinking and being in these situations with husband's friends. She is trying to get help with that but it's especially telling that her husband keeps pushing and encouraging these situations to happen. I don't think a separation is going to do anything to fix this. Divorce seems like the only real outcome. If you can't feel safe and secure even around your own spouse, that's a huge red flag. OP just needs to get away from all of this and focus on herself. Nothing about this situation is healthy.

[@Lurkin925]

It sounds like Jack drugs OPs husband so he can get with OP

[@LadyZubat]

And the one time op accidentally gets drugged he takes full advantage

[@ThatguyKC206]

Whoops 😬 16:56

[@arcadius3257]

Dude her Husband is trash between the contradictions, his complete lack of caring about his wife's feelings so long as he's fine and how he values the friendship of shit friends over his wife's safety. I mean ffs he himself believed that "Jack" was in love with his wife...combine that with the rumors and that would be enough *for me* to completely drop the guy as a friend.

[@Gabbz737NEW]

Ikr if my bf knew his friend was in love with me he certainly wouldn't put up with that.

[@mosesgaming8919]

Crazy how this channel is profitting off her story and she mentions it 😂😂 in the story

[@fnutarf2085]

ikr

[@devoteeofmediocrity821]

Who cares?

[@mosesgaming8919]

@@devoteeofmediocrity821 you do if you cared enough to reply and think about it. Self reflection is needed

[@devoteeofmediocrity821]

@@mosesgaming8919 nah

[@mosesgaming8919]

@@devoteeofmediocrity821 yea u came back after 13 days just to show more of how you care. Your thinking about it which means you care enough to have a thought about it and now your acting on your thoughts. Stop looking for a fight on the internet under someone elses post if you dont care weirdo

[@OneUponADime]

Why would a victim of assault ‘heal’ by letting their abuser go scott free

[@toxiczombiewolf5692]

Sometimes nothing can be done to your abusers and that's just sad it's very hard to get evidence for some of these crime like SA abuse

[@CJ-BZ]

revenge & justice don’t always happen in real life, sadly

[@viatheanimator]

putting yourself through months of legal battles, constantly having to relive traumatic and intimate details in court in front of strangers, inherently having people accuse you of lying, and having to continue to face your abuser in court, and all of this could still end up with the case getting dismissed without a conviction or jail time. unfortunately it’s often much easier for victims to just heal on their own terms

[@Dayday-xj3hc]

Not to sound mean but if Redditor post a story on Reddit, of course it will land on other platforms. People don’t need your permission to re upload it on other platforms. Fair enough when people change the narrative to make the story sound more appealing, that’s a 🍆move, but it’s not illegal.

[@gwenrichard7507]

Mid way reaction: If he really wants to use you as a tool, have him go over, and if he passes out, call 911 and do a drug test. At the hospital.

[@stevenmanson6720]

I understand both sides Op is the victim ofc but so is her husband, his friend's cluld of hurt her and he stuck Empathy is hard so i understand his struggles

[@Inkytoon677]

I feel so bad for her, glad she’s not in the same room as him but she needs to realise that he will never change and will put his awful friends first before her What she needs to do is to get her mental health in a better place, get a job and file for a divorce then block her husband so he won’t have the chance to get under her skin for having her life back! I wish her the best of luck for her health and future ❤

[@Sama_wrdb]

Op talking about how she doesn't want her story on other platforms All of us here listening to her saying that on another platform

[@xqiuvmah]

This is a very weird situation. Both op and hubby are incredibly passive people. If there were drugs in the drink, why was it hubby's drink spiked if op was the target? Op said that Brian and hubby would "play gay," and he started acting weird around op at the same time. I think that Brian is gay and in love with hubby and spiked his drink to do whatever he wanted with him, s8nce it was Brian who put hubby to bed. I think Jack saw you were messed up and took liberties, but I also don't think it went as far as you might fear. In the vast majority of SA cases, the woman is left with little doubt about what happened, even if they have no memory because of how the female body requires special attention to not be damaged. So unless Jack took the time to stimulate op properly and be gentle (not the characteristics of a man forcing himself on an unconscious person he has lusted after for years with potential witnesses nearby) then I doubt any sex occurred. I do think op was still taken advantage of, and this is what I think happened. Brian drugged hubby's drink. Op drinks a bit of the spiked drink. Hubby locks himself in the bathroom because of the drugs. Jack sees that op is messed up and seizes an opportunity to touch her inappropriately. Op continues to deteriorate and eventually falls down the stairs, getting the bruise on her butt and throws up on herself. Brian offers to take hubby to bed and does who knows what. Jack sees the vomit covered girl and starts to clean her up a bit by taking her shirt off. Once the shirt is off, he rationalize taking her bra off and does inappropriate things in her vulnerable state before taking her to hubby's bed, forgetting to put her bra back on. Jack might also have been too drunk to "get it up" and that would also explain everything and why he was so cagey and guilty acting. If my original scenario happened, he could have explained the bra by saying you threw up on yourself and you took her top off to clean it. Still pervy, but less guilty sounding The lack of "knowing" you were graped indicates it likely didn't happen, and the bruise on your butt is not a sign of grape, but it is a sign of falling down stairs. Losing your bra means that you likely had your shirt off, and Jack dodging that question indicates he was involved in it and felt guilty.

[@theredmenace467]

This is my thought exactly. The comment she made about him “adding tequila to a canned cocktail” and then passing out makes no sense unless they are extremely drunk already or extreme lightweights. I firmly think that Brian wants the husband and Jack wants OP and they saw an opportunity to get what they both want. The way the husband disregarded OPs feelings though was out of line. But there is definitely more to this story than what is being said. For him to say “you know better” leads me to believe she did something similar before while intoxicated and he didn’t like it. There’s a lot of holes that aren’t filled and a lot of the story that needs explaining.

[@Wh1teSkyl1ne]

This seems like it could have been resolved early on if they had maturely gone to a private room and explained both sides of the story and called it a night. Then again, what do I know. Everyone reacts differently to certain situations.

[@bleachyboii4599]

Clearly someone is commenting without watching the full video

[@Wh1teSkyl1ne]

@@bleachyboii4599 I watched the full video, although my initial comment was made part way through. While both OP and her husband are both partially at fault, and what happened to OP is terrible, they both had suspicions that they didn’t act upon, or at least reconsider, and OP continued to see her group of friends, while intoxicated. And considering alcohol impairs judgement, it was almost guaranteed that something would happen, especially given the events leading up to the final straw.

[@mannyparrilla1807]

stopped at 2:28 cause it reaallyy rubs me the wrong way that she called that assault when from his perspective, she HIS WIFE let his friends basically take his belt off while he was asleep.. that has to be scary and she just throwing that word which makes HER the now victim just felt wrong.

[@mannyparrilla1807]

4:20 never mind this couple seems to have completely different views and styles, he's stubborn and pushy and she's wayy too meek and 'shy'

[@silverplays7062]

She needs a divorce

[@regisshiv3542]

The husband is a victim too. How many times was he drugged and SA by that other dude? Both the husband and wife are doing stupid things. Yes in the end divorce might be the best for both of them.

[@aidanlamer6370]

I'm not a fan that this was posted without their consent after they expressly said they didn't want it

[@JasonDS64]

Honestly yeah. These kind of reddit reading channels started to rub me the wrong way after I really thought about it but after that, I think I'm done with this channel and all ones that just copy paste stories.

[@ezequieldidjurgis9430]

Well , the post was public and its the internet, its not moraly right but it can still be done whitouth consent

[@christinahicks978]

"Can't cut Jack off with out explict proof" WHAT!!?!?!? If you are uncomfortable don't be around them. People have a gut feeling/ fight or flight response for a reason. It's to protect you.

[@Leglessolas]

God this chick sounds like incredibly hard work. This entire story is nothing but modern buzzwords and self centredness. If something bad happened then yeah, that’s awful and she’s a victim. But even she doesn’t know. She claims she does but she doesn’t, and for all this talk of a ‘fear response’ of Jack she didn’t have that when she woke up that morning. So did she get sexually assaulted or just drunk? And if she can’t tell, why is she making so many demands of her husband? If she thought she was assaulted then why DIDN’T she get herself checked out? She’s adamant that she wouldn’t just black out, but also says she has a drinking problem and that ‘alcohol is the most common way to drug someone’. So she COULD have drunk too much and blacked out even by her own reasoning? This whole thing is a complete mess of illogic and bizarre assumptions

[@meetdmelvinatorTV]

I don't understand why the OP and the husband put themselves put themselves in this precarious situation when they know what they know.

[@meetdmelvinatorTV]

I know a lot blames the husband, but I think there is some blame on the OP too. There are some details she said that I think are vague and sketchy too.

[@chrisdunken6738]

Op makes it hard to feel bad for her she’s selfish if you don’t wanna deal with him and want it to fade away because that’s how you are gonna heal I fully support you but don’t tell me I need to accept it also because I want closure this man could have been potentially drugged me on top of you SA I’m confronting him if you don’t like it that’s your problem

[@morganes659]

You can’t make someone change unless they want to…

[@staggorath2377]

Op was a victim, to what extent we’ll never know because she never went to the police or hospital 🙄🙄 David was 100% complicit, if not a perpetrator as well, and with Jack’s “skills,” it sounds to me like hes a serial r**ist. Seriously, the ability to both know precisely when someone is drunk enough to not process the world around them and to be able to effortlessly take off another person’s belt with one hand???? Someone needs to be locked up forever

[@Gabbz737NEW]

She needs a divorce and she needs to stop drinking with "friends" I'm not saying OP is an alcoholic, but clearly alcohol usage is a problem. Maybe only drink at weddings and holidays with family. Idk... If op is an alcoholic though she should cut it out entirely and get the help she needs.

[@butmermaids7443]

this woman needs new people in her life.

[@butmermaids7443]

god, she needs a better fucking husband.

[@butmermaids7443]

JUST DUMP HIM. he's not going to genuinely change because he only sees you as an accessory rather than a partner

[@dankmemes8619]

But then she won't get her intake of drama. How will she keep her life spicy if shit like this, putting herself into compromising situations and never trying to solve the issue, be beneficial?

[@toxiczombiewolf5692]

It sounds like Jack drugged the hubby to be alone with OP. Obviously, I'm hoping no form of SA happened, but this all seems so suspicious. Remember guys and gals, if you think something happened, get tested asap for drugs or an SA kit stay safe ya'll.

[@Ali_003]

Its almost as if her husband is trying to set her up on purpose.

[@lucasbroiloderocco]

Funny how people are quick to jump at one side of the story only, and don't ever put themselves on others shoes

[@butmermaids7443]

what's the other side, boss? /gen

[@lucasbroiloderocco]

@@butmermaids7443 why didn't she immediately went to get tested and other exams, drugs and s.a. ?

[@FlamesAndShadows]

The 'other side' only has empathy and man-feelings for himself

[@lucasbroiloderocco]

@@FlamesAndShadows that's what I'm saying, we don't know these people, and are only hearing one side of the story, seems wrong to pick a side, you know?

[@zionnang]

What type of marriage is this? Husband isn't ready to be a husband if he can't protect his wife and create boundaries

[@iwanttocomment8966]

"I disapprove of other public media sharing my story that i published on a Public media" : womp womp

[@domnizl]

She needs to leave, he knows her insecurities and blatantly ignore it. Some people are just too concerned with appearances rather than reality, he needs to figure out this shit on his own

[@redrduck1]

Husband sounds like he was getting drugged and OP definitely got drugged taken advantage of. 😢

[@nightmarehound]

OP says they don't approve other places reposting and profiting their story, you do it anyway. Classy.

[@freyjastravelchariot3343]

She posted on a public forum on the internet... OP clearly makes very poor decisions in life.

[@nightmarehound]

@@freyjastravelchariot3343 and that has exactly what to do with this channel's owner still deciding to profit from her story? Just because its easy for them, doesn't means its not a scum thing to do.

[@sewcat6486]

I have a feeling Brian is gay and jack wanted to be with the wife the proof they both had cover stories and both profits from op and husband being drunk. Jack and Brian worked as a team.

[@chessieray1465]

Jack seems hella suss, and the husband seems like an enabler. Also, Telly, did you skip the disclaimer about the story?

[@MK-jx2lu]

OP says that she doesn't want her story being put on other platforms, this is gross

[@ezequieldidjurgis9430]

​@@MK-jx2luwell she posted it in reddoit and when it is posted, it is public and you can do whatever. It aint good i know but if it is public it can go to other platforms cuz it is right there

[@LadyZubat]

Op actively calls out people reading this story for profit. This channel: Ill pretend I didnt see that but read it out anyways. Dude I know this is just an AI channel but respect the fucking OP's wishes and delete this video.

[@jacobyflower3344]

She posted it on a public forum lol

[@TOMMY716]

Talks about Hey don't upload this on any plat.Form.But my reddit page proceeds to upload it on youtube

[@Thaddius0]

scummy "friend" has feelings for my wife. I better insist they hang out as often as possible with heavy drinking while i fall asleep over and over.

[@nimamoradi2779]

His husband is very weak, he thinks acting will end his friendship and make isolated

[@Yamyatos]

Note how the story explicitely says she did not approve of the story being used in other places. Yet here we are. Speaks volumes about how this type of channel works. It's probably 100% automated, drawing popular stories, converting them with text to speech, probably even using chatgpt for the thumbnail and then automatically uploading them. Even the minecraft jump puzzles are pretty much always the same, including the mistakes, with sometimes different colored blocks lol. I mean, i still listen to these.. but it's so just low effort, and demonstrably against the authors will. Not really sure if we really should support this.

[@dankmemes8619]

Eh, maybe when people on these posts get a brain and stop putting themselves into compromising situations. You know how many of these issues could be solved so easily? And yet, never is. Drama is king.

[@Yamyatos]

@@dankmemes8619 What does that have to do with anything i wrote?

[@jacobyflower3344]

Ehh, she doesn't really get a say in what happens to content posted on a public forum

[@Yamyatos]

@@jacobyflower3344 Yes and no. This depends on several factors. Like the content of the post. In this case it's a factual description of something that happened to the poster, so it is less likely to be protected as intellectual property. However, you cant just generally state that you have no say what happens to content posted on a public forum. If you, for example, wrote a piece of fiction, like a creepypasta, the story would by default be protected as your intellectual property. Even if you dont state that. If somebody made a video about it without getting your consent, it is your legal right to either receive money for it, or have it taken down. Note how we enter a gray zone when we consider how many of these stories actually happened.. and how many of them may be fabricated. Generally speaking, simple posts like this one or yours would be hard to protect. And factual accounts of real life events usually dont fall under intellectual property, but you can rather easily make a case that your effort to turn it into a "story" does. Either way, for most of these stories, while it's a grey zone, i would share your opinion. However, if the author explicitely states that they do not approve of others taking their content and reposting it in which ever way, shape or form, then that strenghtens their case and gives more leverage if they chose to pursue it legally. Whether or not they would actually do that, or would win, depends on the content, the platform, the ToS and many other factors, but at the very least it's not ethical to share their story without consent. To be fair, there is no lack of stories on reddit. If you automate the channel anyways, it's pretty easy to check for consent using language models of text analysis.

[@Vic-pg4rg]

Both OP and the husband did a lot of wrong things here. The husband for bringing OP to his single friend's house who flirts with her despite her being married to him. Getting drunk with all of them and leaving his wife unattended too with other men. Not respecting her feelings and putting her last. And getting mad at her what his friends did and driving mad drunk. OP for putting herself in those situations such as drinking with other men who are single, not her husband, and especially one of them who flirts with her and touchy. She could have stay at home or something else and told her husband that she doesn't want to go. As another commenter said, she could have gotten a drug test or forensic kit right away to see if anything actually did happen to her. She said that she felt SA but doesn't remember from being too drunk and doesn't have concrete proof aside from feelings and mismatched stories to which again, she should have gotten tested right away. Now she doesn't want to confirm it because she's traumatized by it when she was too drunk to remember and again there's no real actual proof that it happened aside from a butt grab. If I were in this position, I never would've bother bringing my wife to meet with my single friends especially when one of them is flirting with her. It's a lot easier too as I'm a teetotaler, partly because of situations like this.

[@manofmann8901]

This story is weird as hell throughout. However, the husband is not in the wrong for grabbing her wrist and yelling. If you're half drunk and get woken awake by someone trying to take your pants off you're going to have a negative reaction. Also her explanation of the wrist incident changes slightly each time she tells it.

[@booyah09]

This OP of this story specifically said to keep this on Reddit and that no one has the permission to post this on any other site. TellTales: I don't care.

[@freyjastravelchariot3343]

If you don't want your shit all over the internet... don't post it on a public forum.

[@redbonehaitian]

Girl, get you a new husband

[@freyjastravelchariot3343]

Am I the only one who thinks they need to stop drinking? Like... all of them.

[@freyjastravelchariot3343]

I have a hard time feeling bad for anyone in this story because everyone in this story makes terrible decisions and acts a little sketchy in one way or another.

[@nadiyashahid3650]

This is the stupidest story ever.....stop drinking!!! Leave toxic friends!!! How desperate can one be to want to be friends with such people???

[@mistfnn]

Divorce him girl

[@user-ve4hy3dg5j]

2:18 again, the legal definition of assault is the THREAT of unwanted physical contact. Battery is any unwanted physical contact. If you are going to try and make yourself sound smart, at least know the definitions of words before you give the wrong definition.

[@annelflores9444]

Lol not us hearing her say if we hear thia tory anywhere other than reddit she iant ok with it 😅

[@Maninawig]

I am really trying to be on OP's side, but the way she treats her husband rubs me the wrong way: He wakes up at his friend's place with his wife beside him and his belt off and grabs her wrist... to me, that sounds like an act of self-defense (which the friends picked up on), yet OP dismisses that and accuses her husband of a salting and humiliating her. Even by her definition, the touch while he was asleep is way worse, yet ignored. Later that night, the husband goes to another room to sleep, becomes very insistant on OP being with him, and even drives home tipsy, yet she only thinks the worse of him when such behavior would suggest that he wanted reassurance that Jack wouldn't try anything again... The next time they go there, OP and her husband drink from the same can, leading the husband to pass out and OP thinking it was spiked and she was taken advantage of, and yet she dismisses the idea that he too would have been spiked because "he probably drank too much." All throughout the story, the husband was the one victimized, but OP was the one claiming to be the only victim.

[@albertgongora6944]

I understand that the two friends of the husband are the bad guys here but the husbands just as bad for putting OP in the middle of that bullshit just because he wants friendship and I do get that some people may argue that his friends were basically trying to do something to him too but isn't it so ironic that when OP was tickling his thighs nothing oh but all of a sudden he comes to life and gets angry at OP all because magically his friend got his belt off which says to me that he's purposely letting this happen probably And for all we know maybe he's been trying to make that clear to OP that he never wanted to be in a relationship with her but with his friend and the other friend I don't know it's just that you think that somebody that should feel as if they were sexually taken advantage of wouldn't just get mad at their spouse and be like what the hell you didn't even protect me especially when the OP has voiced her opinion that she doesn't want to be around the friends that he has or go to where they're at but yet he keeps putting her in that and also himself which pretty much says that he's purposely letting this happen he purposely knows what they're doing to him and I don't know if he just feels frustrated enough where he is trying to get OP to just leave him by making her feel uncomfortable that way he can just do whatever he wants to let them do to him That's what the story actually read to me I don't understand why people are trying to argue that they were doing something to the husband but I don't even think that's the truth

[@Yamyatos]

This is one of the most unrelatable stories here for me. Like her therapist, i just dont see much of an issue. It's not that OP cant be right about being sexually assaulted.. it's that there is no proof but yet she is so convinced of that being the case. She is paranoid. "They told me the same story but with conflicting details" - yeah duh, they were drunk? Just like OP, who doesnt remember anything whatsoever, but somehow expects the others to have been better off? She basically assumes she got drugged or something.. by drinking form her husbands glas? Ok so, they wanted to drug the husband .. to rape her? Even if there was some drugs involved, the target was clearly the husband. Which frankly doesnt make a whole lot of sense, but if she was the target, they apparantly would only care about the husband not noticing.. not about her remembering. I think OP can only see the evidence that makes her story viable, not all the things that go against it. Confirmation bias. That said, all the people in this story seem horrible. Including her husband.

[@gbooblue]

So hubby can grab your wrist because his friends started removing his clothes but if one of those same friends possibly SAd you, it probably didn’t happen? You ma’am need to stop drinking and being married to a child. You can’t change anyone else but you can remove yourself from the situation.

[@kossettereaditte7552]

It does sound like they messed with both of them

[@leonvolq6179]

Seems that you drink a lot

[@fonandoozmando5961]

As much as I love those videos, you have to at least edit them a bit before dropping them in your Text to Speech ai. We don't need the recap of every updates in a 30 minutes story

[@Endrat0x]

Op is a little crybaby

[@toxiczombiewolf5692]

Or a victim??

[@HL1_]

honestly this woman seems a bit insane, she has a history of mental illness and then she think she got assaulted, i dont think you can trust a word she is sating

[@ma13volent]

Rather trust a possible rapist than the victim. Doesn't look good on you. And mental illness has nothing to do with this, unless she was schizo, which she's not. She was blacked out, possibly drugged and you're gonna say she's insane? You're fucked up in the head, more than her.

[@user-ve4hy3dg5j]

Oh my god, this is all victim card, long and boring. It was a waste of time.

[@kossettereaditte7552]

I'm not done yet, but the people who say divorce the husband. I don't get it, he seems messed up like most drunks not a bad dude. He seems like he's trying. At the same time it does seem like both OP and him refuse to work with each other, OP always feeling like he's trying to be controlling (like when he drunk grabbed her wrist by accident). Husband apologizing for being dismissive but being dismissive right after that. They both assume the other is ignoring their feelings.

[@lavonnewr]

Getting drunk around men is stupid, sorry.

[@Carnibee]

The implication here should be to blame men for being so dangerous that you can never let your guard down around them. Instead, you’ve chosen to (everyone say it with me)… blame the victim

[@AnTama47]

​@@Carnibeeso just keep blame men and keep drinking hard around them?

[@Vic-pg4rg]

Very true. She did a lot of things wrong. Such as continuing to hang out with a guy that flirts with his friend's wife and is touchy with women. Drink alcohol with them as single guys are bound to do something stupid with women when drunk. Didn't get a drug test or forensic kit right away to see if anything actually did happen to her. She said that she was SA but doesn't remember as she drank too much and doesn't have concrete proof aside from her feelings and mismatched stories to which again, she should have gotten tested right away. Now she doesn't want to confirm it because she's traumatized by it but again there's no real proof.

[@cp49100]

That is a gross and insulting oversimplification, you shouldn't drink around people you don' trust or don't know. Their gender doesn't change their potential malice

[@Carnibee]

@@AnTama47 I don’t know why I have to type this, but I guess here we are: you can protect yourself from people while ALSO not being at fault for “not protecting yourself enough” when someone hurts you. The action is done by the person. Not you. Setting the expectation that you are “asking for it” by doing/not doing certain things when you were not the one who actually did the attacking is downplaying the actions of the person who actually committed the crime. Also, and I cannot stress this enough: STOP TREATING MEN LIKE MONSTERS. Treat them like them like they are HUMANS and HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE when they are INHUMANE. If we keep saying that men simply cannot be trusted, they will ALSO think they simply cannot be trusted, so when they do disgusting sh*t, they will shrug it off because “boys will be boys” and women are held to a different standard. Protect yourself from EVERYONE. Women are not innocent and I’ve actually been hurt more by women in my life than men. Suggesting otherwise is a disservice to yourself.

[@user-ve4hy3dg5j]

This post is boring as Hell. Just a long diatribe about how the woman is not capable of taking control of her life.

[@Top-G35]

I don’t believe op and she is using her husband

[@FlamesAndShadows]

How and why? o_O