BLACKPINK Wins 3 PCA Awards (feat. ARMY) / Simon Cowell Challenges KPOP / CL Leaves YG [DK NEWS]

[@DKDKTV]

Another Clarification. 18:33 That part about LOVE YOURSELF and Unicef was me reenacting tweets i saw on twitter not myself saying it.

[@ellerose9604]

I'm glad that's all it was lol, did you see the blinks mass tagging UNICEF today with their copied essays on why they should drop BTS from the campaign...

[@lilykim6123]

Your whole fandom trended peoplechoosebts and the twts are so disappointing to the extent that our fandom tag unicef and bighit to show how bts's fans behave when they got a whole campaign regarding bullying and violence and what so ever. All you receive from our fandom is just a reaction to what you are doing to us.

[@g-money8448]

Taehyung Bitch that tag was trending way before the pcas even started.

[@lilykim6123]

Yes it was trending before the winner was announce then after the results are out that certain # became a full blown hate twts towards BP I admit there are some that didn't attack BP but the award show but majority of the fandom even big accounts was so disappointing and mind you not just in twtr but in all social media platform. If BP achieve smtg your fandom is quick to spread hate and lies saying it's cheating and their company paid for it but if it is BTS it's hardwork. See the point? We're doing the same thing like what your fandom does we vote, we stream, we buy merch and all so why BP is always the target of your hate? Take note BLACKPINK and not BLINKs. This community is just sad

[@beta910]

I have a weird question,didn’t Danny go to the military before (I remember seeing earlier videos and seeing both of you in uniforms that’s why) so is it like personal enlisting?

[@esasan]

Simon Cowell: UKpop One Direction: Were we nothing to you?

[@rickeylawrence7442]

@@unknownunknown3973 Fifth Harmony isn't "UK-POP"

[@Fatima-qz1io]

I actually laughed hard under blanket 🤭😂

[@TwizAngel]

That is why he said "We did it before we can do it again" X-Factor is what jump started One Direction.

[@toodeepman]

YES!!!

[@Kimfatima007]

Honestly Simon Cowell should just stop trying to hard 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@froggywoggykindafoggy]

I’m just impressed that ARMYs got the entire BTS discography on iTunes in less than 24 hours without planning.

[@joyjoyz778]

Next comeback's records are gonna be insane lmao

[@living_is_everything]

@@joyjoyz778 that's the dream we hope to make real. 🙌

[@beautylife3114]

That just proves the actual power of army and that bp and their fans could Never!!! Which made the point of manipulation

[@Joey-oderso]

Wait they did?? How did i not notice this??

[@paranoidevol]

BEAUTY LIFE lol y'all are so fucking pathetic and immature. seriously. boo hoo bts didn't win some shitty award over one of the most popular girlgroups. take the hit and stream your faves and leave blackpinks name out of it.

[@Xikatt]

I never realized 2NE1 was "Twenty One." I've been pronouncing it "To Anyone."

[@samanthamtz3754]

Xikatt 😂

[@ulalaulali]

Same with me 😂😂 to anyone.

[@Eclaireline]

Either one is fine, it was always a play on both.

[@dinopresley]

twenty-one is for 21st century, but TO ANYONE(is most commonly used, as 2NE1 is for all.)

[@zombiigeisha7129]

SAME XDDD glad i'm not the only one

[@tharushix2983]

hate the SHOW not the ARTISTS! Congrats to the winners of PCA but man that show is shambles Edit: glad yall agree with me, now let's keep streaming army! 💜

[@Enlightened08]

Exactly!

[@wukiislg]

Yesss someone said it!!!!!

[@tashieschimchim6791]

I dont think anyone was hating on BP, I think they said something wasn't right when whole pages track the data.

[@wukiislg]

tashie's chimchim most people are hating on them

[@tharushix2983]

tashie's chimchim Yeah. I’m just glad most of us are focusing on streaming mots 💜

[@shawzkhisa5836]

6:20 "International fans found the time and energy to be offended for us." 😂😃

[@axisboise]

Shawz Khisa Laughed so hard at that.

[@nevaladder]

Sure. We understand if Danny and David don't have all the context about Greedy Simon and his Chest Rug, so we'll do it for them. 🤖

[@losiloso8178]

@@nevaladder but the point was, most koreans didnt even care, and if nobody cares, that shouldnt have been trending.... so greedy simon won cuz you know his chest rug and has the time and energy

[@Insideranon]

Welcome to woke culture how may we be offended for you today?

[@aditiyadav5833]

😂😂

[@sochettrachou6230]

CL LEFT YG IS THE BEST THING IN KPOP 2019 EVER

[@nilofarrahman6717]

YG:you cant leave! Ur nothing without us!! CL: Naega Jae Jal Naga

[@សុផុនស្រីនិច្ច]

Yeah, It will be the best for CL😊❤️

[@roserose8498]

YG just ignore one of their best talent 2ne1 and make them disband. I'm very happy CL already left that sh*t company!

[@nilofarrahman6717]

Thanks for the like!

[@AiHeartYou]

@@roserose8498 I've been around since Big Bang debuted and supported 2NE1 ever since predebut. I really am SO disappointed to see what YG has become today.

[@froggywoggykindafoggy]

Dude ARMYs aren’t mad at Blackpink, we’re mad at the award show. Edi: When I said 'dude' I'm not referring to Danny or David--they're my heroes--I was referring to the immature Blinks and ARMYs who are shitting on each other and their groups. Y'all need to quit with the fanwars. It's embarrassing and immature.

[@moonchild8432]

And we channeled our anger into rage charting BTS entire discography all over the world😂

[@beautylife3114]

@@moonchild8432 kings supporting kings

[@bahjax5820]

Thank you!

[@aiymaimangaliyeva7748]

Yes! I don’t get why some bp fans are being rude... I personally like bp’a music and girls too

[@ile2928]

Anonymousse lmao the amount of hate I’ve seen thrown at black pink and blinks from armys has been insane and I dint belong to either fandom, from the outside looking in I’ve seen nothing but hate and negativity towards bp and it’s really sad.

[@staciii]

"UKpop" already exist though. It's just called pop music, same with American pop music. We don't call it A-pop 😂😂

[@monimuppet6132]

Precisely.

[@chasingautumns]

God, thank you! That's what was so irritating about what Cowell said (aside from the fact Cowell is himself irritating). The imperialism charge is dumb - it's the fact that the UK has ALREADY had the biggest boy band in the world, on more than one occasion. They, along with the U.S., ALREADY dominate the market. So now, someone else is on top, literally ONE GROUP from a smaller country, and it's all -- we need to WIN! You've been winning for decades! Get over it, Cowell!

[@skarolis999]

@@chasingautumns that's the sarcasm you fail to comprehend. he was just making a joke. but i guess you twitter dwellers have never watched cowell at all.

[@chasingautumns]

@@skarolis999 That wasn't sarcasm, that was click bait to get attention. And I heard it first here on DKDKTV. And nope, never watched him, ever.

[@amrapalimakhija6275]

Bahaha yeah

[@yinyang1935]

On the PCAs issue, you missed the part where stan twt discovered that E! and Blackpink were basically under the same parent company, NBC Universal--BP is signed under and represented by NBC's subsidiary Universal Music Group, while E! is a cable channel owned by NBCU. They also learned that announcement of the winners (of PCAs) was to be determined by NBCU's sole discretion, based on the criteria set. That made the results more suspicious. The ARMYs were just loud af, but other artists' fans were also enraged. Also, to put things into perspective, the ARMYs didn't hate on BP that day. They were attacking the awards admins, not the group. Well, I've seen a lot of fans riding on this issue and going nuts over insulting BP, but ARMYs would always find ways to educate them. :)

[@NightxLion]

THAT !!!

[@rjbgfx]

Yes, I'm an ARMY, and I like BP but really really dislike their company with it's shady back room dealings.

[@clyvecbayan4724]

yes thats true some armys insulting BLACKPINK and Jennie's motion sickness because of that 3 PCAs brhhhhh

[@notbillcipher]

deadass we even admit that best mv win was possible

[@headblink9321]

Sorry but. NC** or whatever it is are not Related! BLACKPINK WIN IT AND THEY DESERVE IT. Instead of us being HAPPY On that DAY we're pretty worried cause RATMIES EVEN GO IN BLACKPINK SOCIAL MEDIA JUST TO HATE. ALL OF THOSE SICK PEOPLE UNDER BLACKPINK RELATED ARTICLES are 🤢🤢

[@happyfacez789]

The “UK-Pop” term doesn’t bother me, what bothers me is that Simon ALREADY has a boy band, and is doing nothing with them, but wants to find a new one??? Lol

[@tima1800]

M E it’s clear that he wants to make another one direction copy. After seeing how much one direction has succeeded and seeing how kpop basically took over- he feels a little greedy.

[@tharushix2983]

He basically wants kpop to die down and have England ruling the music world again.

[@caffeine3910]

They have another group I thought it was 1d fith harmony and little mix that all arent managed by simon anymore

[@tessala7046]

M E 💜Can he find a boy band that’s hungry enough to dance sing give up their life for fame and money?

[@milacruz3970]

And he's going to make one in a few weeks lol kpop artist who trained for 10 years can't relate

[@merenlajamir8024]

Taehyung once said "we could have gone higher, we had the chances but instead of dreaming for something bigger, I want to laugh & be happy. Even if it's a little lower or a little slower, I want to make music with BTS for long long time" I think about this statement a lot especially in times like this. BTS knows where they stand & least bothered by rigged award shows, ARMYs were definatly disappointed but we channel our disappointment in charting entire BTS' discography in iTunes worldwide, re-peaked #1 at global digital artist ranking, etc...which you guys choose to ignore and instead focus on mediocre fanwars.

[@sentyaier1793]

I totally agree you.👍

[@stacie1595]

Might I add that BTS is now the only artist IN HISTORY to simultaneously chart 14 albums in the top 200 on itunes! The only artist EVER!

[@sumayyahadetunmbi4347]

You are one of the most sensible person I came across in this comment section. I love your comments a lot.

[@hmm.5982]

Yes preach.

[@kayekaye4251]

what a great response.

[@minniesun7173]

the way they pronounce “cowell” as “co-ell”🤣

[@Grace-pd5lu]

Jas Mas bless them 😂 i

[@kimble90126]

Lol

[@ayomide3788]

No one in the UK watches x factor anymore... his "UK pop" is obviously a cry of desperation because viewing rates are low ...

[@holeecheng6873]

Your comments r true n on point. Can fully agree with u.

[@nctiddy]

well it’s also very smart soooooo

[@nameisamine]

Yo it's Ayo X Factor used to be so huge but now it’s irrelevant. Remember the AMAZING acts the show produced: Leona Lewis, One Direction, Little Mix, Cher Lloyd, Olly Murs & more.. I still listen to Leona Lewis albums.

[@thunderss1042]

@@nameisamine This happens with every talent show.American idol was huge,American/Britain got talent,The four,The Voice etc.Talent shows arent that popular anymore.

[@atrapadosenelkpop]

Yo it's Ayo 😂

[@wit-hope4569]

not even getting tour award after literally selling out stadiums is just suspicious. But im happy that we utilized our anger at the right place and charted entire BTS Discography again on iTunes.

[@tharushix2983]

Hoes Mad it’s actually funny 😂 wish I was that coordinated irl

[@parkjimin-ke2hu]

@@tharushix2983 can u plz tell what is that about?! Like did army buy sth or what! I'm lost😅

[@wit-hope4569]

@@parkjimin-ke2hu armys bought all of the albums again on itunes and made MOTS no.1 in 47 countrys, top 3 in 94 countries. And rest of the BTS albums made it to top 20 and top 100 albums of iTunes charts again 😜😂

[@parkjimin-ke2hu]

@@wit-hope4569 omg😭that is amazing wow😂😂

[@yzarcmw7794]

It's the feminism agenda of PCA

[@nihalshah8533]

Imagine just one rigged award show brought the whole BTS discography on US iTunes, Grammys are coming up, I thik we will have another album by then to bring into the charts

[@renad2926]

Nihal Shah if they dot get nominated this year let's keep chill because there may be still a long way to go ,some artists have never been nominated in their career but I 'm sure that hopefully someday they will be nominated .

[@nihalshah8533]

Yup, many artists do not have a grammy yet, even big artist. But in my thinking, the comeback is going to be on 24th January, and Grammy is on 26th, we are charting anyways

[@sumedhasingh2632]

Hey nihal, are you an indian army?

[@nihalshah8533]

@@sumedhasingh2632 yeah

[@veraps.5176]

It's not rigged. now grammys surly are.. The winners are already chosen... They promote who they like.. BP DESERVED IT SO STOP HATING. ARMLINK

[@stiichie]

Danny: makes an attempt at a British accent Me: *disturbed crumpet noises*

[@kristinagjorgjev6044]

Atleast Armys charted BTSs whole discography in just 24h

[@tototats16]

does it really matter?

[@ooodette51]

TotoTats16 it matters to army’s 😌

[@Bobby-kp1vk]

That's nothing to blinks tho, cause we got no albulm to chart 🤷

[@ooodette51]

Vhloe loré it doesn’t matter if it means something to blinks 🤨 kinda depressing you guys don’t have an album to chart yet. hope u get one soon

[@ooodette51]

Kayslayaa i get your point but all the same a lot of army’s work really hard and study hard and they use their own hard earned money on something they ENJOY. no matter what u but you’re gonna make someone rich lmao

[@frankiebrysonious9446]

BTS’s tour literally made tens of millions more than BPs, there were more dates, bigger stadiums, and more attendees. The fact they didn’t win is VERY SHADY

[@abracadabra3317]

it's all about vote from their fans.

[@peachdeku6660]

For the tour one bts literally won the fan vote by 10 million and the other two they won by 20 million but blackpink still got the awards and I’m not hating on them but that’s a little upsetting that armies worked so hard and even though we won we didn’t get the award because us voting basically means nothing.

[@ang7301]

Little birds can remember lol right

[@jiminsgotjams1108]

@Little birds can remember blackpink is not better than BTS, their as competitive as BTS but for the PCA I personally think that it is rigged because BTS won blackpink by quite a lot of votes

[@alifazri1114]

Well bts won many award than blackpink

[@DKDKTV]

I know the majority of ARMYs didnt hate on BP or really didnt care👏👏👏 But if you really haven’t seen any comments or tweets belittling or insulting BP.. just scroll down even on this comment section for a couple seconds. And when you spot one of those malicious comments please educate them on behalf of the well educated majority of ARMY. Peace. Both groups are amazing.

[@DKDKTV]

IMO. as always the word ‘ARMY’ can no longer be represented as a single entity with an identical agenda anymore because its become too big and when like even a small 3 percent of ARMY who have different standpoints than the majority, decides to make an uproar on twitter, it ends up having usually thousands of retweets. Believe me ive seen a lot of fighting between the two fandoms the past few days. P.S you know i love both groups. Lets stop fighting.

[@effiesugafanai1217]

Naah didnt see a single hate comment towards blackpink

[@taecive]

Yh it's not about the fact that Blackpink win that us ARMYs are are hating on its the fact that BTS lost. It's fine though we released our anger by getting Persona, a 7 month old album at #1 trending on US iTunes and entered the top 100 worldwide. Also BTS's entire Korean albums discography from 2013- present has re-entered the US iTunes chart. Also Persona is currently charting on Melon and Genie 💜!

[@Enlightened08]

@@effiesugafanai1217 LOL quit playing haha. We're you on the same chat as the rest of us? Anyway DKDKTV you arre correct, a few immature army give the entire fandom a bad image. Majority of ARMY has sense and is happy for other idols when they succeed too. We don't talk down about other idol groups to make ourselves feel good. A lot of people are multi fandom and want everyone to succeed. *There is room at the top for EVERYBODY.*

[@sparksfly2752]

I didn't see a single hate comment towards bp on twitter or anywhere.Even the big accs were congratulating bp but were expressing their anger over PCAs

[@lexak24]

People get offended too easily by Simon Cowell lmao I find it hilarious I'm just laughing at him

[@Enlightened08]

Thats exactly what I was thinking. He is a joke. No one cares about what he thinks.

[@Someonefreshandclean]

Omg I just thought that the video was trolling the kpop fans XD. It was hilarious to see.

[@ee8546]

I just hate how he talks about other music genres that he doesn't like in general. He gives classical music a bad name as well, I knew he would say something about kpop, but it was nowhere near as bad as I thought he would've

[@staciii]

Right. I saw it on Instagram and sent it to my friend with laughing emojis.

[@mr-vb3id]

@@Enlightened08 he is a big deal in the music industry. if someone is a joke its you.

[@Patternlogic]

YG did CL dirty til the end. What did the poor girl do to deserve this? Even Seungri got better treatment when he ‘resigned’ ...just one of the shadiest pettiest agency I’ve seen in 2019.

[@em5522]

It's reasons like this that I don't support YG. (CL deserves better).

[@mari-bt7vh]

I didn't see a single hate comment about BP. Maybe it's just me but I'm pretty sure all armys were mad at PCAs, not BP. We know BP had nothing to do with this

[@g.h3874]

blinksmight think its hateful to BP since armys are saying "BTS got robbed" as in BP doesn't deserve it.... hence the fanwar

[@tharushix2983]

Dizzy 396 robbed... by the pcsas

[@laii2406]

@@Karuharu That's unfortunate. Tbh, majority of ARMYs or basically ARMYs in twt dont consider a lot of fb and ig stans part of the fandom cuz theyre toxic and 'delulus'

[@IncredibleLyrics]

you blind then.

[@mari-bt7vh]

Forgotten Soul who is blind?

[@seemebeme1020]

Look BP is a big group with influence and I’m not tearing them down or anything but the one category that I think truly shows that something isn’t right is the Tour one. BTSs tour was MASSIVE, the venues were massive, the money it made was massive, and they were all sold out in minutes. They were super strong candidates to win but even if they didn’t, it makes zero sense that BP would win that category, there was so much drama and scandal around the tour from the very beginning including whether it was sold out or not, the fact they were touring with such a small discography under them, questioning a members professionalism on stage and all the drama with YG at the time. Im sure people went and had a good time, but the scale comparison to not only BTS but the other nominees as well, it just doesn’t add up. So I get why ARMYs are disappointed and suspicious. The ones that are bashing BP are out of line but charting all of BTSs discography was a super dope response. And at the end of the day it’s just PCA lmao

[@anaghabhaskaran9475]

Exactly! I really don't blame the girls. I would rather say that having an influential label/entertainment company at your back can help things out in the industry and this is what BTS has been fighting since the very beginning. This just makes us question every other award show out there and their credibility. Fans take time and put in a lot of effort in voting day and night and when the votes are not even considered then why ask them to vote for their favs? And about the best tour award, I really wouldn't have minded BTS not winning this if it were their last two tours nominated. This one just up the scale to another level and they deserved every bit of this award and for people who don't feel so are just selectively blind.

[@lolablizz3235]

WoW thats exactly what I taught))

[@lilykim6123]

It was sold out it just that your fandom made up this lies saying it is not.

[@1Angeliina1]

exactlyyy the tour one really got me. blackpink even won over ariana and metallica also??? huhhhhh the numbers dont like. best video i will give them that cuz they do well in that aspect 1 billion views alrdy wit du×3 and kill this love gonna reach it next. ill give them that award. but BEST TOURRRRR. nah taht was not adding up periodttttt.

[@ronc9413]

As far is BP is concerned, the YG scandal is irrelevant, their lack of discography is irrelevant (they filled out a 2+ hour show just fine) and they did sell out their shows (actual attendance at LA venue ~95%, scalpers were greedy and got stuck with some overpriced tickets)

[@milenamilens2340]

1. *You didn't even MENTION* the absolute historic madness armys reacted with after the show, PERSONA re-peaked #1 on iTunes in 47 countries, BTS charted 14 albums in TOP20P in the US simultaneously, iTunes algorithms gone crazy and thought PERSONA is a new release and in the it's #2 for 3 days now... This is better than *ANY* Korean artist has ever achieved, scratch that - they charted in the US 21 albums simultaneously which is 2x more than *ANY other artist in history* has achieved. THIS is how armys react to BTS being mistreated. 1. This is so disappointing to see you tremendously missing the thing of this issue. We don't care about who won - BP or whatever. We care about that PCAs robbed BTS from awards fairly won by ARMYs that obviously outvoted - by dozens of millions votes at least on twitter - in a 2 months old and tiring voting. Additionaly, PCAs have *used BTS a LOT* to advertise themselves. This pitiful show has 1.6M viewership. 3. Even if there was no voting, BP does not even 18% of BTS' views in the US. Their youtube record was nullified because of adverts - by YT themselves. *BP does not even 7%!!!! of BTS' sales in the US.* Even a *single stop at Rose Bowl have bigger earnings than BPs WHOLE US leg.* So please save that "everybody deserved award* , because BTS did the most in both voting and numbers being out there. We have more important shows to worry abour, but *that doesn't change the fact the show mistreated and snubbed BTS.*

[@meepmeep4665]

Yesss!!! 👏👏👏

[@zebakhan-gd1gb]

PREACH

[@vantae6365]

That's the point, they are more focused on army tweet, even thoughDanny said in this video that he's not army, like we called out PCAs, we showed our receipts. Where were we wrong??? even deep down they know it was rigged but just bcoz they lost their army subscribers they don't wanna lose their yg stans. Anyways we won all the 3 in AMAs 💜

[@arianacomegivemeahighfive2073]

vantae BP caught cheating also their fans😚

[@sarananou4347]

yeeees

[@SantiagoMiranda14]

BTS sold out Wembley in 90 minutes, not giving them the award makes no sense

[@tharushix2983]

Santiago Miranda literally a whole ass stadium sold out when most other acts couldn’t even sell out smaller venues.... no shade tho

[@apotato4406]

A long, global, sold-out stadium tour loses to an unsold-out, short arena tour? you do the math. the only thing those girls beat bts in is youtube views and trust me is just by cheat otherways they should do better in other platforms . i didnt hate them bcz they won its just bcz they dont deserve it . PS : i edit the comment just bcz armys ask me

[@dastress7272]

a potato don’t hate blackpink bruh they’re not responsible

[@Mmmmmmmnnnnnmmmmmmm]

a potato pls don’t call them b*tches. I neither like them and I was really pissed at the PCAs but it’s not BPs fault. Lets be professional and mature and not insult anyone

[@neferdope4591]

@@apotato4406 lol who are u to claim that a group don't deserve something, they all work hard and go through so much not only bts

[@millaa6788]

ARMYS anger went into charting their whole discography worldwide. That’s huge.

[@Sky-zl4fb]

That's how we take out our anger.

[@IvanIsYda_]

Milla THAT’S HOW WE ROLL 😂😂😂😂

[@IvanIsYda_]

@Violet Evergreen Thank you for your input. We'll keep that in mind.

[@IvanIsYda_]

@@PeachHeadzAddiction true dat

[@IvanIsYda_]

@Violet Evergreen I can sense you're a bit too... offended, I guess you could call it? Also, it's not just ARMY doing this. Every fandom has a part of them that's just as toxic, and if not, even more so. I'm not trying to downplay how you feel about the issue. By all means, that is your right. I'm also not trying to defend my fandom from it, because to some extent, we really can be a bit too over-the-top too. We don't need someone else's wisdom, however, we have our own, thank you. Your input is very much welcome, but that doesn't mean we completely agree with it. "Cyber bullying" is not a way to put it. Perhaps it's a defense mechanism we, the ARMY, have towards the injustice of the system, that's one way of how we see it. If, perhaps, that is your understanding of cyber bullying, I will welcome it, and will keep it in mind for future discussions. Again, thank you for your input, dear. 😊😊

[@mkdot7]

I’m an ARMY and a Blink, while I’m definitely happy and proud that the girls won, it’s just strange that they got ALL THREE wins. I think BlackPink definitely deserved music video of the year, but BTS should have gotten tour of the year. When you see the numbers and the facts it’s very hard not to see that it is rigged in some way. It’s a really gray area for a multi-stan.

[@rachelk9964]

Ikr..?😮

[@rayesafan9628]

It’s not about deserving. It’s all about votes. I’m an ArmyBlink and I totes agree with you. But we don’t know how the website votes went.

[@suntree4755]

Madeline Delgado ofcourse BTS deserve all Awards!!!! BP couldn’t sell 3000 seats

[@magaliscarsi]

@@rayesafan9628 the awards later said that if they wanted they could ignore the votes and choose the winner themselves.

[@namratabarua3457]

@@magaliscarsi was it all a joke than? The voting thing 😂😂😂

[@arianahoelguin]

As a tweet from @ fatimafarha_ said: "I just really want to emphasize that it’s never about beating another group or taking down another fandom. It’s always just about bts and these boys getting the appreciation & recognition they deserve for the work & love they put out." AND @ crumbles4kookie ''It’s also about basic fairness. We fight obvious corruption/rigging on behalf of BTS but also every artist who deserves a fair system. Many artists & fans have been disenfranchised be these shows over the years & our fight extends to the system in general." It's not that hard to understand, right?

[@moonchild8432]

Absolutely right! BTS and even ARMY got slandered by some news outlets and our boys are constantly used for clout but don't get proper recognition. It isn't about other fandoms, it is about the system! I'm quiet disappointed but not surprised that so many people don't understand what ARMY's are really up against. We never trended hate hashtags, defamed other groups or harassed other fans (especially about their looks wtf?), sent open death threats to artists or made fun about their mental illness or struggles. But this is what we are constantly receiving by other fandoms plus the xenophobia from western media and entertainment industry. This pca awards just were the final push over the edge. But instead of raging about it, we decided to rage chart BTS's entire discography all over the world. K- ARMY's trended a ht to tell us that they are recognizing our hard work and even stayed awake to watch us and donated money so that more I-ARMY s could buy albums. Today they swept an all kill on korean Charts and we had one big global streaming party. K-ARMY sent us letters in which they thanked us and told us how happy we are for this big family and fighting together against injustice. We really bonded. And again there are still people calling us a toxic fandom.

[@birb9895]

Armys is not a unique identity anymore, the fandom is so big that even tho only 3% of armys are hating it’s a lot y’know

[@arianahoelguin]

@@birb9895 i understand, we deal with that too, but i wanted to point that out. I'm glad that 97% isn't up hate.(of course we don't have an exact number for that, as you say, is a huuuge fandom, but is truly amazing see a fandom stand up in those type of sutuations; without making hate hashtags and many other stuff antis has made for bts).

[@arianahoelguin]

@@moonchild8432 You couldn't have used better words!! I truly understand every word and the weight it has, thank you. I'm happy to be part of a fandom like this. It's so tiring being misunderstood as a whole, if only the people talk about us the most have the criticism to understand the situation without being biased.... ah.

[@moonchild8432]

@@arianahoelguin it is as if they want to see only the bad things and totally ignore the really amazing and beautiful parts about our fandom. It's always "but ARMY has also toxic fans".

[@marialgs8]

David's "did you see my bag" got me rolling on the floor omg 😂😂😂 I'm sorry

[@07mavema]

who cares about the PCAs lol did you hear about ARMYs charting BTS' entire discography on iTunes charts all over the world?

[@veraps.5176]

WELL HOLLYWOOD DOES CARE A LOT AKA ANISTON, JLO, LADY GAGA ETCC.... XD GET LOST WE WON CUZ BLINKS FAM IS NOW INTERNATIONAL, THEY EVEN HAVE A WHOLE COUNTRY VOTING FOR THEM, THAILAND. I'M AN ARMLINK FROM EUROPE SO WHATEVER, I'M HAPPY FOR THE QUEENS AND MY KINGS EITHER WAY..

[@marniluvsstrawberries]

Vera Ps. They won cause pcas is rigged, BTS should’ve won, they had a lot more votes

[@leekguitar]

Vera Ps. You know a fandom has no chill when you can’t find a comment chain without a blink screaming in caps.

[@hmm.5982]

@@veraps.5176 Dude chill. This is why people hate BP. Come on! Our girls deserve smart and kind fans. Not loud and disrespectful fans.

[@bastiandaisanto7951]

@@leekguitar they always use a caps, makes BP get more hates for a reason.

[@bahjax5820]

Honestly, Im just upset about the best concert tour, bts definitely deserved it. Btw congrats to blackpink coz its win for kpop also armys are not upset with blackpink, just at the award show.

[@Soho389]

Swagup Tata it’s not a win for Kpop. This type of crap makes Kpop look like a joke and doesn’t help ANYONE. Hopefully, most of the music industry ignores it because the PCAs are not even real awards for the music industry. It has always been a waste of time and more about marketing.

[@alperry02]

@@Soho389 100% agree. It makes kpop look like a sham.

[@yzarcmw7794]

I'm upset at a lot of blinks though for mocking us why we got mad and why we question PCA..like duh b***h we were used!🤔 anyway, BP innocents babies, not some of their fans though.

[@Soho389]

Jasmine Hobbs that’s how it should work but in this case it didn’t. PCA voting was published and BTS had 20 MILLION more votes than BP. At this point, though I don’t care who won. I care that the hard work and effort that was put in was dismissed for a sham. And that when we call attention to that somehow that’s spreading hate.

[@alperry02]

@@JasmineFlorianna yes but what we are saying is bts DID have the votes too. They won all 3 categories over BP by MILLIONS. Over 20 million in 1 category! The math , lol. So this is why some started looking into the fine print to see what the hell is going on. Basically it states NBCU executives reserve the the right to chose the winners, Regardless of fan votes. Hence the outcry. Why is it calle People's Choice if executives and not fans have the final say?🤷🏽‍♀️

[@tavisha7501]

Danny is a WHOLE ASS MOOD in the end ngl. Imma get a ball and play outside with my sister now lol

[@Enlightened08]

LOL he was looking rather sexy with them glasses and uniform wasn't he:) Snack all day

[@tunghungchin2555]

Seriously you guys must make enough research before trigging any fanwar. Everyone deserves a fair treat and competition. Do not take away other people chance of proving their capabilities. We respect and expect a fair race.

[@aleli9557]

Honestly, more than anything ppl were upset at the PCAs for using ARMY for clout and the fact that ultimately the award show itself can choose the winner regardless of what the votes say. And in response, the only thing ARMY did was re-chart BTS’ entire discography on iTunes. Focused on showing the industry that ARMY knows it’s worth and collective power. There’s always next time!

[@shou_191]

Aleli I’m sorry but stop being so hypocrite. No the only thing armys did was not focusing on bts. The amount of tweets I saw saying that bp had their award just by going under the table and shit like that. And those type of tweets were liked 8k times. Stop thinking y’all are angels

[@aleli9557]

shou _ With a following of 22.6 million ppl, I don’t doubt there were immature, malicious comments directed at BP. Personally, I think that is wrong, as the group had nothing to do with the greater machinations of the industry in this situation. However, to say that the entirety of the fandom as a whole was being toxic to BP is simply not true. ARMY trended the hashtag BuyPersonaoniTunes on Twitter for 9 hours. If a coordinated hate effort was really underway, don’t you think that this would have landed on the front page of every Soompi, AllKpop article out there? Just think about that for a bit and realize that a huge fandom like ARMY will have a small subset that is toxic and which true ARMY doesn’t claim and helps report.

[@aleli9557]

Jasmine Hobbs At no point did I minimize or insult BP, idk where you’re getting that from. It’s true we have no data from the PCAs(and likely never will), but I would direct you to other fan voted award shows where BP and BTS where also in competition. MTV EMAs, MAMA, VMAs, etc. are all examples in which ARMY was able to pull the numbers and secure awards for BTS. Did we all fall asleep while PCA voting was happening? Somehow I doubt this. Again, we are doubting THE PROCESS of the vote, that has no bearing on what group it was that won. It could’ve been the Jo Bros that won, the reaction would have been the same.

[@anironariron6839]

@@shou_191 That tweet was tweeted by a BLINK, stop victimizing yourselves. twitter.com/RizeOT7addict/status/1194260667848507393?s=20

[@matcat7623]

Jasmine Hobbs u are clearly a hypocrite can't take facts for your own beliefs stop butting in kpop if you dont even know shit

[@MingukFilms]

Years ago, One Direction was the biggest group out there, obviously, and THE WANTED won the PCA awards, when they were CLEARLY not the biggest group that year. This award is CRAZY! Who even knows who The Wanted is today? NO ONE! So... there you go.......

[@zenadawalibi2701]

Are you kidding ??? They were my favorite band when I was a kid !!!!!!!

[@MingukFilms]

@@zenadawalibi2701 I liked them too, that's why I remember that award, it was THE ONLY ONE they ever won in America LOL because 1D would win everything......

[@my-sn8ij]

I kinda knew them loool

[@byungbin1395]

The sun goes down, the stars come out and all that counts is here and now my universe will never be the same, I'm glad you came. True, I somehow knew this lyrics, yet I only found out recently that it was from The Wanted.

[@lazy2198]

To me The Wanted were best ,just couple of days ago i was listening to them while cooking “she walks like rihanna whoo ooo “lol While listening to them i was like wow it been a long long time

[@melaniea6749]

You got it exactly, definitely these types of awards are very easy to rig since there is zero obligation on the PCA to show the results and even though its fan voted, the award show basically says in the terms that it can actually choose whoever it wants as the winner, it doesn't have to go by the votes at all. That's why army were pissed because they had wasted time and effort voting when it could just be handed to whoever, producer's choice rather than people's choice. Even BP fans were confused, but happy, by the results. At the end of the day, I had never heard of this award show before... im sure BTS hasn't either lol

[@melaniea6749]

@@Kiryu_Maji oh did they? I'm only a new fan.. ah so we missed out on a thank you video from them :(

[@soysauce9296]

Starting a fanwar is the last thing I want, but it's clear as day that the awards were rigged to some extent. You can make an argument for Blackpink winning video of the year, but the other 2 categories, especially "Tour of the Year?" That one not only makes no sense, but there is legitimate quantifiable data that suggests that Blackpink shouldn't have even been nominated. BTS had more performances, longer performances, inarguably bigger performances, sold more seats in like 1 hour than Blackpink did for all of their concerts combined, and grossed well over 10x (I'm being conservative here) the amount of dinero. Idk man. I'm sure there are plenty of people that are sick of seeing BTS win everything, but you have to give credit where credit is due.

[@ferMADify]

I hear you man..but in the end of the day who gives a flying fuck about these awards? I didn't even know they exist 😂 Here I make right now my own awards and I say that artist of the year is me! Fight me :P (I'm trying to be humorous and in no way am I trying to offend you ^^ but it's still my opinion that I'm pretty sure even BTS themselves couldn't care less, after all the way more prestigious awards they've won.. also in the end of the day, it's just not about the awards! I think a real artist cares more about their art and their fans than about the awards.. )

[@crozzycorner7617]

RIGHT! Like bruh, BTS deserved The Concert Tour of the year. Like, their concert is about loving yourself. And also sold out concerts in just hours, while bp can't even sell out 1 concert. Sorry being rude, but The Concert Tour of the year? 😩 BTS deserved that. ARMYs voted in the website. Periodt.

[@bhartisharma1972]

Instead of justifying yourself , you are just initiating a fan war between us blinks and the ARMY

[@Josh-do5cl]

At the end of the day whether u wanted them in the category or not they won...like I just can't I-.....

[@sony7949]

@@Josh-do5cl for real. Its just a Piece of Crap Award. Lol. Actual statistics matter more than one material with a label on it. Like no other kpop group has sold out Wembley stadium of which had the same presence of Micheal Jackson Queens etc.

[@crowfeathers4025]

I like blackpink but I have no idea how blackpink won against bts

[@fi0rella]

They faked their email addresses. Dnno if you voted for PCAs but you needed to submit an email addy, well instead of this they did something like this: sdf @sdf d0t c0m and that was their addy. Meaning all fake votes? We didn't know they were cheating. Fortunately that pest isn't yet in the ARMY

[@naveenchowdary7579]

@@fi0rella well this seems to be a better argument than YG buying awards....but then again iam tired of laughing at the reasons.

[@beautylife3114]

I'm sorry but Who ever is actually defending bp and their company are actual clowns!!

[@maroonking3120]

They won through connection.

[@apotato4406]

BTS had over double the amount of votes than Blackpink, A long, global, sold-out stadium tour loses to an unsold-out, short arena tour? you do the math.

[@jdah7]

18:33 the unicef campaign is towards violence towards adolescents in real life, not twitter fanwars.... Dont make it about "dragging" people. no one was dragging blackpink, we were stating the fact that bts was millions of votes ahead of blackpink yet they won ALL 3 awards.

[@DKDKTV]

I was reenacting some peoples tweets. Those arent my words

[@addyakhasne9853]

Proud of how Armys are focusing the energy on streaming & charting the songs instead of trending hate hashtags or belittle any fandom! Ps. It isn't a fanwar because Armys were mad at the award shows not BP. PPS. EXCLUDING THE 5% OF THE TOXIC PART IN THE ARMY FANDOM! Edit : imagine pissing off someone so much that they chart the entire discography on #1 ! It's not even a Comeback... gives me chills thinking the way we are going to break records with the next Comeback! Armys fighting!! ♡

[@ayushsarwankar8337]

Army's were mad at awards show....? Are you on Instagram . Just see the comments on each post related BP winning pca

[@addyakhasne9853]

@@ayushsarwankar8337 and what about it? There's always gonna be mixed reactions but look at what the MAJORITY of Armys are doing.... streaming the songs and charting the albums! Check your Twitter maybe!

[@hanatop40]

@@ayushsarwankar8337 Just be thankful we didn't trend any hate hashtag. 😂😂😂😂

[@faynuexunqi4042]

I mean a lot of the gif people used over it was BTS, so obvs ARMY was wasting their time over it.

[@Aphroditexx]

I'm an OG Army. Seen them live dozens of tiimes in three different continents. Have 3 BTS tattoos. With the dudes since We are Bulletproof pt 2. I'm also 30 years old and not on twitter. I can seriously guarantee you.. as someone who's followed these guys for almost a decade - BTS does not give a flying fuck about those awards. They've made it. They're incredible beasts and powers of forces to reckoned with. Is it a bit shady that BP won? Yeah, of course. I think the girls are really good girls and have the potential to go massive. Baby ARMY - Let. them. have. it. We've won a lot. Enough. Let's focus on milestones such as radio play, The Grammy's... or just, I don't fucking know, having these 7 dudes have a damn life again instead of carrying a massive part of the South Korean economy on their backs? Let them date, drink, swear on camera again instead of these fucking cookie cutter "Who do you want to collab with?" damn questions. Take some pressure off of these individuals. Let BlackPink fucking enjoy this moment! What the hell is wrong with everyone!? Kudos to ARMY for trending that damn discography. THATS how you support!

[@trivialove6336]

I'm also an OG army (which idk why that matters but I think you thought your words would mean more lmao) and we're pissed bc bts DESERVED the award and it was taken unfairly. It may not mean much to you but it's insulting that bts STILL have to deal with this despite the numbers showing they should've won. Bp getting the award isn't a big deal, them getting it bc it's shady as fuck and obvious as to why they won is another.

[@ayushsarwankar8337]

It's really makes me happy when army support BP. Wish those haters die

[@Insideranon]

They shouldn't be drinking and dating etc because they're still in a hectic life style. That's not healthy in that lifestyle. Feelings don' override facts. They also enjoy the music, so they focus on it. I agree the "whos the next collab" questions are annoying. I want to see them make their own music without the western leeches myself. But welcome to entertainment and the ruin mess international fans have left kpop. Blackpink doesn't need this award either, its a paperweight, not even that. Blackpink was robbed of a real win, and thats a problem I have with it.Even though I knew it would happen.

[@ultrainstinct3802]

The majority of armys hated on the award show not bp, many of them only gave the statistics by shawing the data of votes counts as compared to others.

[@Jeguk07]

Thank God. Finally someone said it. I’m not an OG Army, got into the rabbit hole in 2015. But I was there when this other fandom felt their faves were being robbed off daesangs by BTS. And that hurt. Because I felt the boys deserved it. And if I’m not mistaken, BTS lost in terms of votes, but the panel of jury voted in favour of BTS. Sounds familiar? Hmmmmm

[@cairawilliams93]

Im so over BTS winning, but clearly as an outsider everyone can see that BTS deserved those awards over BP..... if you count album sales and tickect sales for concerts alone ignore all that voting bs BTS should've won

[@sasuke9150]

its only based on votes

[@sasuke9150]

hey pca is only by voting ok in the site armies were outvoted covering the huge gap in twitter of around 20m ill explain how cause yourl will tell that armies voted i site too blinks in twitter 3m armies in twitter 16m 3m blinks gave this fight but in youtube insta where blackpink more popular they mass voted in the site so isnt it obvious binks would win cause they were voting like hell in site in bwl mv i saw armies telling they already won nothing to worry focus on streaming so blinks easily made the difference if pc chose atists they would haveeasily chosen other artists like taylor arian shawn camila all there groups

[@lootsah8377]

the duck in david's mug is looking straight into my soul

[@camrynhenry3895]

My biggest problem with Simon is that he has openly stated his opinion on kpop and this is just a money move, so nothing more

[@anisatajy9445]

He's hoarding all the attention from the people who will watch his BG or GP out of spite. He'll be the winner in the end 'cause his pockets are gonna get loaded.

[@Krissy-rz4wy]

I love how “the conspiracies” about YG are being “blown out of proportion” and yet...look at YGs track record THIS YEAR ALONE. Are we really that baseless in our theories??? just saying.

[@Queen7127]

There’s no justification for the tour award and I’ve seen both BP and BTS live. Don’t get me wrong BP are incredible performers and I love them but it was clear at the concert that little money was put into stage production. Everything just felt minimal which is a shame considering how expensive tickets were! The girls honestly deserve so much more. Now BTS put everything into their tour, the stage design, the dancers, the speeches, the outfit changes, the set list. Not only that but they sold out stadiums worldwide in seconds. It’s just incomparable

[@nxclefrnco]

They won by voting.. I know you gonna answer me that army got a lot tweets..blahblah😂 t-blinks outsmarted everyone by using around 25k emails to vote everyday and voted through the website as well. And army forgot the twitter vote limit

[@malak-ml2vi]

I went to the blackpink concert in London, and it was deff worth the money I spent. Nothing felt minimal it looked like an actual performance and just because bts performed in stadiums doesn’t mean the performance is better(no hate to bts)

[@joshina4497]

@@malak-ml2vi did you even see BTS live too? If not, you can't really compare both groups...

[@malak-ml2vi]

@@joshina4497 I have been to a bts concert the one in London cuz the bp and bts concert dates were close to each other, maybe its personal preference but I preferred blackpinks concert more.

[@saranaila5905]

@@malak-ml2vi i smell lies

[@vanessaives40]

What conspiracies? Big bosses can't control BTS and money they generate, they want some "fresh" "stars", so they rob BTS of their well-deserved (though not really prestigious) award using traffic that ARMYs provided. PCA are scammers, BTS are again mistreated BP vs BTS are not Ronaldo vs Messi. BTS are established artists with huge discography, deep and diverse artistry, massive and enthusiastic following, completely different background. Just by the number of BTS songs that have to be explained (on this channel, particularly) it is clear they are not some kind of an empty bubble. It's a shame so many people want to put them down and don't give them due credit and respect

[@huginug]

^^^ best comment. If we want to compare BP to BTS in success in the West, BTS wins by a landslide.

[@koo_kookie5909]

I agree with you 100%. The Ronaldo and Messi comparison was so unnecessary and illogical. It's like he wanted to say that BTS doesn't acre about such awards but fans do since they put so much time and effort for giving their artist all kind of recognition. It didn't make any sense, I would rather prefer if they didn't comment on something so sensitive to both parties. The UNICEF topic was also blown out of proportion on this video.

[@hannahm5513]

Honestly it’s been a big year for Blackpink. They deserve love ❤️ I’m happy they are getting recognition x

[@ale_1067]

I'm still confused how BTS didn't win the best tour😂😂.... they literally just finished they're STADIUM tour, performing in some of the biggest stadiums and still lost😂 sounds a bit rigged tbh

[@lilyramirez5026]

It is rigged, it's so obvious omg...

[@littlelou050]

The producers and company who manage the award show pick the winners not the fans voting (there was also something about the american company bp is under having to do with it so.....) also yg announced bp had won before pca did and ofc the fact that the other artists (not just bts) got so much more votes compared to bp.

[@littlelou050]

It is all extremely dodgy lmao but army don't care we showed how powerful and we're going for that grammy now.

[@ayushsarwankar8337]

@@littlelou050 army don't care...??? Army are busy bashing BP on every single post..

[@littlelou050]

@@ayushsarwankar8337 maybe some are but you get immature people everywhere in the world. The majority came at the award show and yg and then after expressing their disappointment left it alone. Alot of the nasty tweets directed at bp were from blinks themselves.

[@vanessasubandi8181]

“People are never happy” - Danny , DKDKTV 2019 👏💯 true tho

[@begood2urself]

Some people are never happy... Some are happy...have a nice day sista...

[@adrshpe111]

Soooo why is Danny enlisting again? I thought he already went to the army.

[@scrulase]

Aspmixedchic Thank you! I was surprised no one is talking about this

[@Enlightened08]

@HollyFlix that sucks

[@wthmimi]

I thought so to💀

[@adrshpe111]

HollyFlix oh wow! I did not know that they go back.

[@Megan9689]

I just dont think they should call it "people's choice awards" when it's not necessarily the people's votes that show the winner. In the small print rules of the awards show, it literally says the end result is up to the show and they can change the winner even if the people voted for someone above the others. It doesnt seem right....

[@stacie1595]

False advertising at its finest for sure. If they want to give the awards to whoever they choose, then they should call it the E! Choise Awards and get rid of fan voting all together.

[@Victoria-te2sx]

So I understand that judges are allowed to do that. But what did they base their judgments off of???? Especially for the concert tour award? They didn’t go off votes, or sales, or attendee amount, or money invested in the performance, or ratings, so how??

[@Megan9689]

@@Victoria-te2sx Exactly! Literally no excuse/reason to choose the winner they chose. That's why it's so blatant and making army so mad!

[@AE-ld9ck]

I think it might be based off the past year and the social impact of the act in question as well. Usually, people here don’t lose it over award shows because it’s just an award that will eventually collect dust. I feel like it’s more important for an artist to transcend any award they could be given. I’m a fan of a lot of (very different) artists so, I keep my expectations low for award shows and just enjoy the performances, seeing everyone have fun, joke around and look out for any potential hints at upcoming collaborations. So, my opinion may be odd to some... lol Personally, I found BP when the PyeongChang Olympics were starting to be promoted in America (2016-17 ish). What I can see is BlackPink have been able to handle insane scandals and corruption (from their own management company) along with a culture that still deals with a lot of misogyny on a daily basis and still they rise above it, which I find incredibly inspiring and is noted to be insanely difficult in any industry. People (maybe more international or casual fans) might relate more to that emotionally, than to BTS. I love both but, in regards to BTS they haven’t done the one thing that other artists (even k-pop groups) have started doing, and that would be taking a stance on prominent social issues. I know they have their UNICEF campaign but, BigHit hasn’t made any attempt (that the company CAN obviously afford) for them to talk about it at length except in short videos or Korean interviews (PCA is not just in one country). In my opinion it makes the group seem insincere about it, I would like to see BigHit actually prioritize the Love Yourself campaign or expand on it in a public way, and not a pre recorded video when the guys are exhausted and just getting off stage from roughly four months ago. I’ll be honest, it’s pathetic that their company won’t even add English subtitles to their YT videos or let fans send in translations, it’s pure laziness and selfish. Plus, I feel like the more popular BTS has become BigHit is more than capable of something like that, especially since they were targeting western markets with BTS. I just feel like it’s a bunch of small (fixable) things that would further solidify them in the eyes of international fans, hardcore ARMY and casual listeners, and show more human moments that we can see in real time and linguistically understand, or read. These are things that are on the company, not BTS personally (just want to be clear on that). That’s just my thoughts on the PCA thing (I didn’t even watch it, because I forgot about it and thought it was in December.. lol). ✌🏻

[@Victoria-te2sx]

Erin Elizabeth Wait, I’m sort of confused on your point. 1) So BlackPink is inspiring due to their struggles but BTS are not? BTS like BlackPink were an extremely hated group (but in 2014/2015), “plagiarism boys” was a trending nickname and RM once said in response, that when you are branded like that it felt like “dreams, passion and effort were[are] meaningless” and both Suga and RM wrote some pretty lyrically concerning songs around that period of time. “One morning, I opened my eyes and I wished I was dead. I wanted some one to kill me in this loud silence.” “If I ever met God I would tell him this life is like a coffee I never ordered. - Always (RM) (Suga’s song is The Last, highly recommended) They were absolutely hated which also led to low self-esteem and Jimin’s very public weight lose where everyone put in their bloody two cents on if he was ‘fat’ or should have abs or not. Jimin said in an interview in 2016 that the main thing fans told to him was “not to loose weight” and revealed in 2017 he had been putting himself into very crash course diets. Plus BTS, due to their effeminate looks have earned a lot of sexist comments in the West. I’m not saying that BlackPink haven’t struggled I’m just trying to make out that BTS and BlackPink are BOTH inspiring due to their hardships. For me, BTS are one of the most inspiring and ‘realest’ kpop artists, as their struggles and resulting lyrics comfort me as they remind me that things get better (I recommend the whole Mono Mixtape if you want to feel calm and reassured the lyrics are amazing) They’ve even told ARMY that they are ‘two faced’ and that we only see a persona. BTS are really easy to relate too as their lyrics often speak about losing touch with friends (Butterfly in prologue stage) not having aspirations and dreams( So Far Away), not feeling good enough (UhGood) etc. 2) BTS also always speaks out on a social phenomena in each of their albums whether that be unemployment and low pay for youths (Baepsae) or how ‘society pushes people to dream but paradoxically promotes capitalism’ (that line was taken from Suga’s album speech about the song ‘Paradise’). Also BTS are not a legal measure. BTS and BigHit are non-legal organs therefore, in regards to UNICEF, the only things that can do is donate directly, set up donation areas and promote human rights to the public by publicly speaking. Which, BigHit and BTS have done. Whether that be the speech RM gave at the United Nations General Assembly, the love yourself merch where 100% of profit is donated to help youths in need or the money they have individually donated. BTS can’t pressure governments, all they can do is promote human rights to help shape the minds of new generations. 3) Subtitles, yeah that’s an issue for int. fans but it’s not really a big deal. It’s sort of just annoying but it doesn’t really fall into ‘bad company management’ or ‘toxic’. As BigHit was never really trying to ‘target’ anywhere, they sort of got lucky as their Korean promotions were shit due to the unfair broadcasting times due to how small the company was and they relied on translations from generous ARMYs for the int. audience. BigHit is/was a bit of an idiot but no company is perfect and this is pretty small right now 🤷‍♀️ Anyway, both BlackPink and BTS are amazing groups but it seems unfair to criticise BTS for things they are already doing. If you got this far in my essay congratulations. If you didn’t I’ll leave two links of other KZbin videos that explain my point. 1) kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZjEdp-Ci9-Fm7M - it’s a bit dramatic but it shows how BTS talk about their issues. 2) kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIGXgpWeZ9eLfLc - this is one example, you’ll find more songs explained on their channel Anyway, we might just end up having completely contrasting opinions but I hope you consider some of the information. Have a good day. Sorry for the essay, I understand if you don’t want to read it. Peace ✌️

[@yeonkimin7366]

I'm an army and I wasn't even aware of this award. There are many of us that don't keep up with other groups. Armys were mad at the awards company not any group.

[@saranaila5905]

me too

[@sammyisrandom4345]

i did see a lot of armys dissing bp and one calling them "barely a group", so... maybe you weren't seeing the worst of the bad stuff.

[@yeonkimin7366]

@@sammyisrandom4345 I'm just saying what I saw, there were a few who were toxic but majority were dragging the awards.

[@keylies]

Me too

[@Fiya851]

Ikr..we actually recovered from this news pretty fast and start the streaming party lol

[@hniangt2602]

Is it just me or is YG having a mental breakdown like once a year now....?

[@kellydamen8453]

the pronunciation of Cowell is really getting to me ahaha

[@Insideranon]

THANK YOU IM NOT ALONE LOL

[@sageblink3974]

Yes! It's pronounced cow - well , like a moo moo cow

[@fayewest08]

i’m so glad someone feels the same i got triggered ngl

[@EM-rm2xh]

Also have to mention that Korean articles published Blackpink's win BEFORE it was announced on broadcast TV in the US, and the fine print on the PCAs website explicitly states that NBCU can choose the winner despite any resutls. Also, look at something like MAMAVOTE right now (you can see the live rankings). To suggest (not you specifically, just in general) that ARMY was not voting on the website is ridiculous. The thing is: if you win legitimately, you win. It's all these shady things going on that's frustrating. Take SuperM, for example. Where are their Korean sales? Non-existant because they allowed their foreign sales to be counted to US sales to essentially buy that #1 Billboard spot (this all backed by Capitol Records). I think you can imagine how frustrating it is to do something legitimately and then lose or be undermined by cheaters. And yeah, ARMY took a negative and made a positive. I don't like how you feel like fanwars are always front and center when the reality is that ARMY just charted BTS's entire discography on US iTunes and shot it to #1 in dozens of countries. But, sure. Fanwars. Okay. Reminder that ARMY is a massive fandom (bigger than many countries even) and never trended hate hashtags or petitioned the Blue House after losing. So you can see how it'd be frustrating for someone to focus on less than 1% of the fandom and overshadow what the majority was actually doing.

[@marthalaalpaca7079]

Only good thing out of this ,is the all kill of bts discography💀💜

[@charstar386]

A long, global, sold-out stadium tour loses to an unsold-out, short arena tour? you do the math.

[@IsabelLopez-pl7cs]

Exactly, thats why this is a total fraud, its too obvius

[@abbadfatima1239]

if they are really better than bts than let’s see who s gonna win the MAMA

[@effiesugafanai1217]

Its as simple as that... Why do they even argue with us

[@eyeconics]

Fatima 2003 they won’t win anything because they aren’t going and attendance counts at mama so you can’t compare

[@fi0rella]

@@eyeconics They can't ever win MAMA cause you can't fake your email address like blinks faked their addresses to vote for PCAs............................................. Reason they're flopping at those voting awards that request REAL votes, instead of something made upm dummy fake not-real accounts -_-

[@sumrak219]

You can argue about song or group of the year but tour of the year is a joke.

[@me.1023]

BTS had much more votes on Twitter. The difference was like 20 millions votes. And the only other place where you can also vote is from the website. But even there I don’t think blackpink got more votes than BTS. And a proof for that is that in mama award show you can only vote on their website. And bp is still at place 2. And twice is number 1. So if they are so good at getting votes why can’t they just get the same amount of votes there.. they can’t even surpass Twice. Edit: official! there is now articles in K-media about how YG cheated to get these awards. YG did post about BP winning these awards even BEFORE the result came out, then they changed immediately to BP are nominated for PCS awards 😂 YG is the worst entertainment ever..

[@yeshi2362]

M E. Your just salty..

[@sony7949]

When your in the same label, statistics and facts are thrown out the window.

[@nxclefrnco]

They won by voting.. I know you gonna answer me that army got a lot tweets..blahblah😂 t-blinks outsmarted everyone by using around 25k emails=(625k votes) to vote everyday and voted through the website as well. And army forgot the twitter vote limit

[@bhartisharma1972]

Just because BTS didn't win , everyone has to come up hating on blackpink . Gosh y'all can't take anyone else winning, can you ?

[@MeeMee-gs9cz]

@@nxclefrnco so why y'all can't get over twice in MAMA voting That is website voting too Do you want me to believe y'll pass ARMY votes mean while you can't even get over Twice in MAMA voting That's too funny 😂

[@joyjoyz778]

I dont mind BP winning but honestly the concert tour 2019 category was robbed from BTS like that shit was a joke. They sold out multiple stadium shows. BP struggled with their regular arena tour so I just dont get how they got that but anyway an award is just a title that comes and goes people need to calm down. The girls don't deserve to be called names for it like for real its just music.

[@naveenchowdary7579]

How does people forget the logic that if BP is winning other 2 awards why would the fans vote for BTS ...i myself spammed from 54 emails and i did vote everything for BP..I couldnt care if BTS soldout stadiums i just want my fav's to win and iam in no way a BTS fan to vote for them...if at all there is no BP i would have voted for Ariana Grande's Sweetner Tour.

[@sana3843]

Naveen Chowdary not that I care at all but that sounds like cheating to me. Congratulations, but also, get better sweetie. Integrity and self respect is way more important than some show.

[@sana3843]

Kayslayaa I was just referring to that one person that said he/she spammed from 54 fake emails. I don’t want to just assume that other people did the same. I believe most people try to be honest, when they can. It will be interesting to look at the actual numbers because something does feels wrong, but it’s not impossible. It can be legit. Anyway, people do take it too serious. It’s crazy that some spend so much time and energy on it. Imagine creating 54 fake emails just to spam everyday... it’s exhausting and kinda sad. You shouldn’t be mad at those people for cheating but give them a hag or something.

[@okynavy9044]

@@sana3843 no. Fans always did that. Create multiple accs for an artist every day. So for a kpop stan like me its normal. Everyone in every fandom did that

[@meashafong883]

This award show is a joke. I'm a blink living in America and I didnt even know that BP got nominated for this joke of an award show. BP themselves didnt even post about it or show up so.

[@didinau]

I don't care about other awards on PCA. But BTS did deserve to win The Best Tour! You can fight me :/

[@lesharnjones7473]

Re: Simon Cowell and his “ UK-Pop” comment. We now live in a world where it’s the norm to live in a state of being offended.

[@twixtheterrible5151]

I think PCA should be transparent with the votes that were counted from twitter or website or whatever. Twitter was a mess. And I really think BTS deserved the best tour award at the very least.

[@Insideranon]

It states in fine print that votes basically don't matter.

[@naganaga5410]

Yes..

[@alondraZ7]

Well it ended with BTS’s whole discography charting on iTunes for the second time 💆🏻‍♀️

[@susanagebrekidan2543]

U know it😇

[@em5522]

So proud when I saw that~

[@saraha8513]

I love Danny defending non Kpop artists. Kpop isn’t better or worse than western artists, they’re different.

[@LindasCorneroftheInternet]

My queen CL leaving YG is the best news of this year 💜

[@anaazevedo3447]

Firstly I’m stating that yes I am an ARMY and yes I voted tones for this award like all the others. Just saying it so you know and just think what you want about what I’m about to say. Bp yes talented yes, first mv to 1B, congratulations. I got nothing against them like I don’t have with any other group and that’s really true. I’ve listened to different groups music other than BTS and they’re the only ones that made do and be what I do and am today. That being said. And I’m not saying this being biased, I am analyzing everything that I see. So BTS sold out stadiums in so many different countries all over the world... do you honestly think BP deserved winning best tour? Secondly, best group? Where? Analyse BP data and BTS and then see which one has the biggest numbers, on every single thing they do. And now please think of the number of ARMYs that voted and bp fans. How do they actually got more votes? Also, if you need more reference other than those numbers on the screenshots, please check other voting awards numbers and see the difference between BTS’s numbers and every other group. I think you get your answer right there. Also, do you know that there’s this company that is the one that has the final word on each winner for the pcas? Do I need to tell you which SK company is involved with said company? I don’t think so... media play has been happening and it will continue because they need it to bring attention and money to their groups and company. Do you know what ARMY did after BTS “lost” those three awards? Charting every single BTS album in countries from every single continent (without a comeback). Do you know how many articles I’ve seen talking about it? I can’t count my fingers. Did you see it on tv? Probably not, why? I can’t tell you that because a thing as big as this should have been in every single media news and articles. Do you know what was? A car accident that did no strong harm to anyone. True ARMYs don’t hate on other groups, do you know why? We don’t need it. BTS has proven all these years they are the best and most incredible and genuine honest people along with BigHit Entertainment. They don’t need to play the media because they know their worth and they rely on their hard work and talent to succeed. And when something unfair like this happens do you see what we did? We should everyone how BTS and ARMYs work and we get things done with honesty. PCAs are the awards that ARMYs will stop voting, because why work hard when you know you’ll be played? We’ll get the awards that really matter and that are fairly won. You can count on that. Sorry for the big message but I just felt the need to explain everything I don’t mind a group winning BTS if I know it’s fairly won. But when you see that it’s clearly not... like I honestly can’t see how it is possible. The numbers just don’t make sense and I don’t need to see the actual voting numbers to know that. I hope this is clarified, but if it isn’t, congrats on winning pcas that aren’t actually decided by the people Good luck on the military!!!

[@willezal.7296]

Ana This needs to be spread..

[@palakmishra8273]

Fairly spoken.

[@Stregs]

God I was laughing so hard at Danny at the end, “I’m getting Cancer listening to this” “Go outside and play with a ball” Lol 🤣🤣🤣

[@cpeltier14]

I’m confused, didn’t Simon do this already with One Direction?

[@amrapalimakhija6275]

Yeah. UK pop is like British people singing in English. So....

[@theYouTuberfr]

1D are done and they all hate each other

[@cpeltier14]

Amrapali Makhija exactly why I’m so confused lol

[@pandahas]

He is just having fun while stan get hyper. Thats all. Since kpop is basically korean pop, he mean united kingdom pop. Its funny for him probably associating pop music to a country or attaching it. Basically just jabbing at the stan n trend of kpop popularity. Which many of us didnt get it.

[@cpeltier14]

KZbinr I know they’re done, what I’m trying to say is, he already created a super group that dominated the world. Whether you like them or not, everyone knew who One Direction was. Now idk if it was word play or not, I just don’t get why there’s a need to create a group just to compete with kpop other than for the sake of making him richer 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@mariyarosa170]

If something made ARMYs mad, we stream hard. And it's not even a comeback.

[@emilyr.f5135]

Ok a lot of people are getting angry or annoyed by Simon Cowell coz of what he said but I just want everyone to know that you shouldn't waste your energy with being angry or annoyed at him since it's not gonna work out anyway and it's just another annoying show he's making just so he can get more money and plus the group that does win on that stupid show isn't gonna get far probs be popular for at least a year and then most people will forget about them which is what happens most of the time when people win a show like Xfactor and Britain's Got Talent but even though I'm saying this I can't deny the fact that it does really annoy me when I see comments were some people are trying to make it a racist thing when it's nothing to do with ethnicity it's just all about the money for him obviously plus all that stuff he was saying is just hilarious and the group isn't going to be exactly like kpop anyway like i seriously doubt it so just chill a bit coz Simon Cowell was definitely expecting this exact reaction just like Danny and David said so ye im not trying to be rude but chill guys, just chill ya beans 😂 I also want to add on the fact that Danny said Simon Cowell's name wrong like I don't mean it in a mean way but it was hilarious 😂 P.S. I'm sorry this is all over the place and feel free to disagree with me in the comments just as long as it's in a nice way since everyone has a different opinion

[@molly-mann5059]

I totally agree with this! I feel like alot of ppl aren't getting his humour either and think hes just being a dick, I mean yeh he can be but hes harmless lol

[@EM-rm2xh]

People aren't really angry. It's more of a "Ok, boomer." sentiment.

[@Insideranon]

Let people look down on Simon for this. He knows what he's doing. he's seriously no joke with this stuff. He knew he would get this reaaction, he knew the joke was bad, and he knows it will make people talk. you know like how Korean companies use fans to trend for them over their fake bs? he pulled that card.

[@LilShirl94]

One Direction was from the UK and they were huge. Simon could of made another huge group but he sucks at managing his bands. Little Mix could be bigger but Simon sucked.

[@ItsBrittanyLajoyce]

Shirley P Simon has a band called pretty much and CNCO

[@melaniea6749]

Little Mix should be the biggest girl band in the world right now, but his management was so poor since he kept focusing on making the next 1D :(

[@allofkang4770]

Danny: go skiing or something! Me: *lives in a desert*

[@khvdijaa]

BTS literally HAS A SOLD OUT STADIUM TOUR,idk how this doesnt make sense

[@JammelyMorales-Galvan]

@azaria c yeah, bts won in the voting

[@juliannelim6112]

@azaria c on twitter, bts led the concert tour hashtag by nearly 12 million votes, led the music video tag by nearly 20 million votes, and the group tag by 22 million votes, so it's understandable why armys are confused why their votes did not count; even factoring in website votes would mostly likely not change the winner for all 3 categories.

[@khvdijaa]

@azaria c lol even then BTS were leading by millions of votes,#rigged

[@kingkha9363]

@azaria c everyone uses bots regardless if they were or weren't used they won the voting which is the only visible award criteria we have so when they win but still lose based on the information we are given it doesn't look right. i mean perhaps they have a hidden criteria which is understandable but best tour to blackpink ?

[@kingkha9363]

@azaria c no but according to the votes which is the only visible criteria I can see they lost who really knows what people chose but all we can see for certain is the votes

[@anmol7060]

The best concert award was just weird . Not just BTS but there were some other huge concerts but out of all of them BP won which was extremely weird

[@brokensports]

Their nomination in that category was already strange. Because as you said the difference in scope and scale between the bp concert tour and the rest of the nominations was massive, plus there were countless other massive concert tours that got no nominations.

[@monimuppet6132]

That IS wierd. I don't have any opinions or thoughts on how it happened but it's certainly strange, I'll admit that much.

[@bookofeli3953]

YG actually did CL a favor taking down the channel. why? because if YG owns the channel and it will get further views, its gonna be profit for YG not with CL. I think they took it down for a moment while they're transitioning the ownership of the channel to CL.

[@katiaferreira4370]

Let’s be honest, by votes alone BTS were the clear winners. Seeing as there is the Interscope link, NBCU decided BP was the winner. Nothing more nothing less. We should have read the fine print on the voting process. With all said, though unfair in some of the categories for BTS (who should have at least won Best Live) it is not nice to drag the other artist down for they have their own achievements and are also great artists. I would believe that most Armies are sensible enough to know that these things happen and that the ‘other artist’ should not be attacked for something another party decided. There are worse things in life.

[@IsabelLopez-pl7cs]

True armys didnt say something against BP, is about the show itself, this is sad for the girls too

[@nfraelynn535]

True it is not nice to dragged others but those who dragging others are NOT TRUE FAN of ARMY OR BLINK. THEY ARE TOXIC!!! The matured ARMY & BLINK will never fight over this. Many of commentors in YT are mostly Toxic fans. Their comments shouldn't representing any fandoms 😤 Unfortunately peoples look that & take it as TRUE FANS while they are obviously ARE NOT 😤 Look at this comment under Ariana Holguin .. The main point is the award. ARMYs are fighting the award & justice with fairness system. Yes our actions asking for fairness towards the award is for BTS but THE POSITIVE CHANGES can help others in future too. The music industry right now are mostly corrupted & that is what ARMY saw with this award. When digging for info was done, unfortunately YG has a connection but there is no proof that YG was part of it. We will never know truly. So, unfortunate for the girls to be in between in this corruption but ARMY is dragging those people who CLOUT & USED BTS FOR VIEWS & NOT GIVING FAIRNESS AWARDS to them. I hve to say, lot of things that ARMY did for calling justice system are actually being heard. Media captured that & the industry music at least in US (I think) started to get to change. It is slow but positive changes. I agree with ARMY actions by BUYING ALBUMS/SONGS on digital to show our rage towards the FAKE AWARDS

[@katiaferreira4370]

Isabel López Yes, it’s true. The comments I have come across are mostly aimed at the show itself. Just talking about the toxic minority on both sides being horrible about the respective groups and fans involved.

[@baemandu3644]

I just don't want people to attack blackpink, they didn't do anything wrong Edit: thank you for clearing it up in the comments :)

[@mochinim1654]

Most blinks misunderstood. ARMYs are mad at the award show not bp

[@tharushix2983]

Dw, Blackpink didn’t do anything. We’re just pissed at the awards show 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@moonchild8432]

We didn't attack BP, we turned our anger into something positiv and focused on our faves

[@jazzycatdraws2]

No one is mad at blackpink, it’s the award show’s fault

[@caramelmacchiatoe]

yeah..

[@keataylors3685]

DAVID: WOW GOOD JOB BLACKPINK FOR 3 PCA AWARDS! ALSO DAVID: DiD yOu SeE mY bAg, a bts song

[@emmabathandbeyond3845]

Peoples choice IS RIGGED there’s statements in the fine print of voting or something on the page saying in the end it’s up to the producers basically....sounds familiar right?

[@camrynhenry3895]

The pca isn't even a fan war, army focused on streaming

[@zuziiiiiiiiii]

i wish that was true but it isnt, ive seen so many fellow armys hating on blackpink and pcas, they were mad MAD, go on twitter or instagram, there is a fanwar

[@camrynhenry3895]

@@zuziiiiiiiiii compared to the ones streaming, I dont think its alot

[@naforeveryoung4996]

@@camrynhenry3895 althought its not alot but their word can hurt the girls. You always said the majority of u dint hate but why this majority never try to call out the toxic one when people said there hating BP?? what u said just we dont claim them and they not ARMY. its just turn blind eyes of the situation cuz in the end the toxic one ARMY too.

[@camrynhenry3895]

@@naforeveryoung4996 no every said we condone it, why didnt bb fandom call out their fans who insulted Jimin's looks or the ones who called armys overweight white, emo girls. Every fandom has toxic people not just us

[@iwannadancewithgeorge]

nah i’m an army and my ENTIRE timeline was just them bashing blackpink, mind this, i don’t like blackpink...... and i still found this to be immature

[@pawoo308]

"We don't want to take any side" at the same time as you're endlessly sighing because ARMY looked at stats? What's wrong with looking at stats? "ARMYs are now looking at the upcoming shows" (like we always do) but no information that we turned this loss into a support BTS party by charting their entire discography?

[@aiymaimangaliyeva7748]

I personally think that it was really unfair, because BP had their FIRST world tour only this year, when BTS performed on the biggest stadiums in the world ++++ their concerts were sold out in 10-15 minutes. No hate, I really like BP: they are pretty and charming, their musics are really catchy! But you have to admit, that they have only a few videos, that’s why it’s easier to get 1B views. But as a fan of both groups (but army more) I feel bad for BP, cause that didn’t feel like a true win... +Danny, it’s not like we spend 24/7 on internet, but despite what you do and how long, you face that kind of things in every social media or whatever. And it is not that hard to tweet or leave a comment... It is literally 5 min, hahahahahah

[@Insideranon]

be careful, kpop fans hate people who use logic and facts

[@aiymaimangaliyeva7748]

An Insider on the Internet sorry, what do you mean? 😅 I had a little “first comment fight” yesterday and don’t understand anything right now 😂 I hope it’s only me who misunderstood u😭🙏🏻

[@shirleyjannat9260]

If you wanna get praised for something that is given to you by exploiting others, even though deep down inside you very well know that you don't deserve that something, but still act innocent like the fault is not on you, then you can go be proud of that "achievement" of yours, that just further solidifies the proof that you're spoiled, mute against corrupted system and nothing but "slaves" to your "owner".

[@fantasyk87]

I'm so over this competition/fanwar with BTS and Blackpink's fans, I love them both and it pains seeing fans smear each other's fav group. The only thing I want to comment on is how shitty YG is right now, apparently they're delaying BP next comeback.. how idiotic is that? They're on fire and they should take advantage of it right now, but apparently not, well. Thank god CL got out of it at least.

[@adelina8604]

No one: David: All Davids are talented

[@mrscani]

As someone who has been a stan of the KPOP Genre for more than 15+ years, I find it hilarious that SOME Kpop fans think that anyone can claim ownership of music or a musical genre. Kpop got it origins, and currently thrives on the influences from music outside of South Korea. If it wasn't for Pop, R&B, Rap/Hip and in some cases Rock music from the West, Kpop would not exist. In the end, UK-Pop, will never be what Kpop is, because there's no way that Simon Cowell, or anyone else can replicate the system that runs the machine that is Kpop, so getting bent out shape about something that's bound to fail even before it starts, is pointless.

[@Laf92]

Thank you very much. I wrote a comment like this a couple minutes ago but it isn’t as articulate as yours. All facts that kpop fans ignore

[@pandahas]

It was good till u said cant replicate, kpop is western idea with korean language n pretending to be cute n white. Kpop i would hv agreed is their traditional genre included. Like latinos n indian they hv what u call latin music or indian music but pop. Its not just language, there is traditional tone to it. In case of kpop its just a language. Idols would be ashamed of this comparison too. Also i dont know y international fans be defending this kpop idols n idolizing them like god. This idols be raking moolah while being rascist as f inside to half the international fans. But Good luck kpop!

[@mrscani]

@@pandahasMy comment had nothing to do with the music. I said could never replicate the system, and I stand by that....the training, the sacrifice, the potential of not making any money, the giving up of one's life... people from the West, are not going to be able replicate that. Not a chance.

[@pandahas]

@@mrscanijust saying and u support such system? Because if you do sis i am sorry i got no comment any further.

[@pandahas]

It's appalling to me to see so many say such sacrifices, hours of training etc. It legit shocking to see people actually like this type of treatment and praising. Because there is nothing to be praised. This is harassment to an individual aspiring. One can become an idol without this if he or she got it. Mj, queen, beyonce, ed sheeran etc might have not gone through such korean idol making system but they will be remembered forever for the impact they left behind or leaving behind in the world through music. It's a dangerous thought by a fan. No wonder kpop industry is what it is coz even fans idolize the system.

[@ThePricklyash]

“I thought produce 101 was the only one rigged” I guess not 😂 They lost all credibility because DKDKTV wasn’t nominated 😡 🤣 If it makes army feel better, I don’t think anyone takes E awards too seriously

[@AE-ld9ck]

Simon: *Uses wordplay, records a clip with his typical 'personality', acknowledges K-Pop as a top tier and successful performance/entertainment business, and enjoys it 100%* K-Pop Fans (in basically every country except Korea): "He is an imperialistic bastard. HE NEEDS TO FAIL!!!111!!!" *facepalm* THIS is why I can't get half of my friends to even consider supporting K-Pop, fans (usually international...) are triggered about everything! It's hypocrisy at it's finest. Seriously, on an interview where they had older industry 'Boy Band' members talking to younger ones people were ACTUALLY pissed off because no one singled out one of the guests for being in a KOREAN 'Boy Group' and that his experiences are completely different and therefore had to have been more difficult than the rest. When western media tries to normalize K-Pop they get chastised, if they don't they still get chastised... We have enough divisiveness going on right now, please don't contribute to it.

[@jasmineking5884]

Erin Elizabeth omg ! Finally someone who isn’t crazy lol

[@pipsqueak3296]

Kpop world itself is not even united. Army questioning bp award. Instead of congratulating them they ask sarcastically. So it's not even surprised haha

[@Insideranon]

@@pipsqueak3296 Like it or not there's legit reason to question it, and its not because of the girls its because of involved companies.

[@Insideranon]

Okay, where can I meet you andgive you a high five? i keep saying international fans are the reason it got toxic. Korea had it figured out, and then international fans complained and now being an idol is way harder, way more stressful. Because of their whining.

[@pipsqueak3296]

@@Insideranon ? ... ? You just said it. International fans. Being toxic and whatnot. Right? Like right now. This is not even a grammy. And some fans ignore this because they know how their group feels about it. Those are true fans.

[@miriam2049]

Armys aren't even fighting anymore lmao we are taking our anger into buying and streaming. BTS' entire discography charted agai in the us on itunes, that's the power army has. Also we aren't mad at blackpink but at the award show. It states in their website that even if the votes show one nominee as the winner the award show can still choose the winner themselves regardles of the voting results if they find it necessary, which is just such bs and makes the public voting just totally unecessary and the whole award show just loses their credibility. Also, you could only vote per twitter or the website, so yeah technically blinks could have voted crazy hard on the website instead but I find it hard to believe that they managed to win over the +20M gab per voting on the website when they can't even manage winning on MAMA voting online.

[@celinetix6831]

You must be blind go to twitter and ig and see how huge amoubt of hate blackpink got people even wished them death and called them prostitutes for having 1 billion views in faaact the commebts and tweets got so much likes and retweets it became top comments and viral ..blinks had trend love blackpink hashtag You guys just cuz you didnt see it doesnt mean it didnt happen blinsk including me have aloooot of screenshots for it cuz somehow you guys always lone nothing happened and we r just making things up

[@fostane]

@@JasmineFlorianna OP clearly stated they're mad at PCAs' rules and also explained why it looks suspicious to them, so I don't know why you're putting words they didn't say in their mouth.

[@fostane]

@@wildkyla It's a big af market, I think that's the main reason, and the US live in a bit of a bubble entertainment-wise so to manage to break in means a lot, especially to become more mainstream. Also, some US award shows are really prestigious (even if, to be fair, PCAs is not one of those).

[@ellerose9604]

@@JasmineFlorianna go and read PCAs t&cs lmao, they can choose the winner even after all the voting so it's not even THE PEOPLES CHOICE! and it's funny how they can win that when they can't even win polls over bts on insta... like legit polls on an app that bp and blinks are active on with millions of fans whereas BTS arent but they still win.

[@ellerose9604]

@@celinetix6831 are you also blind to what your OWN fandom is doing? for the second day in a row, your fandom has been caught out SL*T SHAMING your own girls, YOUR OWN GIRLS! and trying to blame it on us, this has been going on for MONTHS now but luckily ARMYs are not dumb and are great at finding and showing the truth.

[@taehyungsduality9565]

👀Bts deserved the awards for their hard work and selling out big ass stadiums in the world but like it’s E choice awards, no one really cares, it’s obviously rigged but like congrats anyways

[@lalrempuiiralte5256]

“People are never happy”🤣🤣🤣

[@myheartwillgowon3641]

Lol that's not how you say Simon Cowell but still I love it😂

[@rahs5801]

momo saccharide That made me laugh, too! I guess it makes sense, though...English is a weird language. “Co-well” or “cow-elle”....made me laugh every time! 😂

[@myheartwillgowon3641]

@@rahs5801 ikr😂😂

[@LittleLyssMarie]

“I WISH THE INTERNET WAS GONE”

[@aivyrin]

I was hella surprised and kind of shoked when I found out that BP won. I like these girls but c'mon people's choice awards...

[@nxclefrnco]

They won by voting.. I know you gonna answer me that army got a lot tweets..blahblah😂 t-blinks outsmarted everyone by using around 25k emails to vote everyday and voted through the website as well. And army forgot the twitter vote limit 25K emails is 625K votes a day

[@bhartisharma1972]

@@nxclefrnco someone say this out loud so people think about what to say about Blackpink

[@bhartisharma1972]

They have a massive fandom for if you don't know

[@aivyrin]

@@bhartisharma1972 well and I hope you know that the boys have a massive and powerful fandom too.

[@amrak7278]

@@nxclefrnco and they were illegal email accounts

[@Enlightened08]

I had to edit this, didnt you serve already? Im confused lol DANNY DONT GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Damn, we got to wait 2 years to hear your smart ass usually on point commentary. *You're my superhero* lol Stay safe and be healthy.

[@deena-s5e]

Congratulations to Blackpink and Blinks for getting 1B views in ddu du ddu du and for winning 3 awards...Im both an army and blink and I am happy for BP but tbh I dont really care who won and who did not...the results have already come out and it doesnt matter who is the winner and if you think its really wrong and it should change then you can do better in upcoming award shows:) dont start a fanwar tho pls...lets just focus on supporying our faves instead of getting into stuff like this and creating negetivity

[@positiveecho326]

Western artists are signed ready. Kpop artists are recruited then made ready. Neither way is wrong and both ways work. In regards to “make it white,” not all British people or UK citizens are white. Way to show your ignorance fellow kpoppers.

[@jisoo1571]

Yesss the white comments really irritated me, the U.K. is so diverse, my community (even though it’s just a random town) is so diverse and I love that. Imagine thinking all British citizens are white 💀

[@yzarcmw7794]

True. Anyway, simon is just using kpop name😅 the truth is that he don't have too. He should just keep doing what he's doing. He was a successful guy at what he does, he already made several groups and artist famous before so no need to add UK pop because it's cringe😅 and why involve with Kpop, i even want BTS to stay away from that because it has a stigma that we all know.. anyway, UK got some of the best A list singers in the world Ed Sheeran, Adele and One D.

[@EM-rm2xh]

Many western pop stars go through training as well though. The entire Kpop training system was adopted originally from western labels. So saying that one country is "signed ready" and "made ready" isn't accurate at all. Plus, both countries have applicants that have already grown up with dance/vocal lessons (and some who haven't).

[@lchen2522]

It's not about the whiteness of would-be pop idols, but the western music industry and the ones in charge of the business. I think the "imperial" tone is about the idea that the western music industry is not "running the show" and how Simon wants to wrestle the crown back as a tastemaker. Even though western music is still technically leading, but honestly Latin music is far more popular worldwide but for most people it's completely under their radar.

[@Queen7127]

L Chen totally agree! ‘Make it white’ isn’t really a dig at the British public but more a commentary on Simon’s ignorance. Like why do we need UK-pop to compete with Kpop? Why can’t kpop just be successful and maintastream in the western market? We have so many western artists dominating as it is. It’s not as if kpop is replacing anyone. I just think Simon’s comment was tone deaf and people have a right to question it