Star Wars: The Clone Wars #42 REACTION!! "Duchess of Mandalore"

[@BlindWave]

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[@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168]

So There basically like space French right?

[@jonathanshaw9704]

I feel like only Satine gets to call him Obi.

[@rapliberationarmy089]

Jonathan Shaw and Jar Jar

[@marionochoa878]

She gets the privilege of calling him "Ben"

[@jjpe306]

Padme is the perpetual thorn in Palpatine's side.

[@TheGreater-ScopeVillain]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmW4apqwl5aKfZo _"Isn't it remarkable, that one could have ALL the power in galaxy... and yet, the words of a single senator could sway the thoughts of MILLIONS."_ _"What do you plan to do about this?"_ _"For now we must adhere to the principles of our democracy. We must let the wheels of the Senate... turn."_

[@multiverse_media2023]

Why does this sound very grim?

[@nathanielclaw2841]

That flying police droid be like: why are you running? Why are you running?

[@DarthDimadome]

I didn't know that little trivia about the mountain peak. That's crazy.

[@gizmo12055]

ive always wondered what the planet looked like before it became one city

[@dantenagarjuna811]

@@gizmo12055 Probably like Earth, but....space-y?

[@Wolf6119]

It's worth noting that the Republic wouldn't strictly be "invading" Mandalore, because Mandalore is a constituent member planet of the Republic. They are *neutral* in the war, but not *independent* as a whole. Satine herself acknowledges that she swore an oath to the Republic, and Prince Tal Merrick, who betrayed her last episode, was Mandalore's Senator in the Galactic Senate. So it's not like they're a completely independent world whose sovereignty the Republic is violating. They're a Republic member who has chosen to not participate in the conflict between the Republic's central government and the Separatists, which is their right, because the Republic was originally founded on the principle that member planets can choose when and how much they want to contribute (This is obviously changing as the Republic becomes increasingly centralized under Palpatine's rule, but they are still technically subjects of the Republic, and subject to the will of the Senate as a whole. Mandalore is Republic territory and the Republic is empowered to station forces there if the majority of the Senate wants that to happen. It's a bit hard to compare to anything in our world because we don't really have federal governments where power is so thoroughly devolved to the member states as is its in the Galactic Republic, but basically, imagine if each of the 50 states had its own separate army, and was allowed to independently decide whether they wanted to participate in the Iraq War or not. Mandalore's situation is like if the Governor of Idaho decided to not declare war on Saddam Hussein, and not contribute soldiers from its own Idahoan military to the fight. Idaho would still be part of the United States, and the Governor of Idaho would still be under both the President and the Congress in terms of hierarchy, but he would have enough power to choose not to participate in certain projects or conflicts that the country as a whole becomes involved in.

[@brandonlyon730]

There was actually a state hundreds of years ago called the Holy Roman Empire, which was more or less a federation of German, and northern Italian states. Even though the were supposively one Empire under one Emperor. All the states (or princes) were all very independent and autonomous to themselves. And when war is ever declared upon the Empire, the princes can choose whether or not to contribute, usually the Emperor himself is in charge of protecting the empire as a whole from outside invaders, most of the time the princes are usually fighting amongst themselves for power and territory. They were also a elective Monarchy so the technically vote who will be the emperor (usually Austria 90% of the time). That’s about the closest real world thing I could compare the Republic to.

[@DidntExpect]

@@brandonlyon730 You play EU4, huh?

[@brandonlyon730]

Yes definitely

[@Wolf6119]

@@brandonlyon730 Yeah, you're absolutely right about the HRE being the closest. To be totally honest, I chose not to use that as an example cause I figured people would be more familiar with the US lol

[@ThePapiChuIo]

Like how the US was, under the Articles of Confederation then huh

[@TheManOnTheStreetOMG]

Didnt even gauge that Palpatine threatened that senator, killed him off once he said what he wanted and then framed deathwatch for it

[@Wolf6119]

As someone who actually loves the politics of the prequel era, I probably enjoy these episodes a lot more than most people. Having said that though, it's probably for the best that you guys are doing chronological order instead of release, because the release order has basically ALL the slow political episodes in a row most of the time, which even I find getting pretty damn tedious, cause some of them really are a bit much.

[@Vahki100]

I'm right there with you brother! I love the prequel-era politics, that is just the best! Palpy's slow rise to power is so rich and full of depth.

[@Wiiranger87]

Given to the right people, you can make a really good political thriller/drama show out of Coruscant. Ripe with potential, you can have new characters or bring in Bail Organa, Mon Mothma, and especially Padme since she really shines in the political ring and is not afraid to get in on the action.

[@MrZAP17]

I like politics in shows because I'm interested in politics in real life. That said for that very reason these episodes have never really worked for me because I find them so incredibly dumbed down and childish from anything in the real world. The only politician of any level of competence is Palpatine, and even he's not great all the time (in the TCW specifically; overall I think he's amazing). The way they go about everything just doesn't work and breaks my suspension of disbelief. The political things are one of my only real complaints about the show because I feel they could have done them much better instead of turning it into the equivalent of a 7 year old's understanding of politics.

[@ekl7804]

@@MrZAP17 I understand your point but 7 yr olds would not understand this show that well as far as politics goes.

[@MrZAP17]

@@ekl7804 Then they should have just avoided making it a significant part of the show instead of doing it the way they did. Either do it right or don't bother. Either way would have worked. I also think there could have been a way to make it palatable for kids while still seeming intelligently done. As it is it just feels sloppy.

[@caleblim6890]

Palpatine: the Senate will decide also Palpatine: I am the Senate!

[@multiverse_media2023]

Not yet.

[@rinolombardo5465]

Obi wan and Satine always gave me the impression that they are the kind of couple who must stay separeted for the sake of their own relationship. If they staied together like Anakin and Padme ,they woulded be lovebirds for one hour and then fight for a week on repeat. Sorry for my bad english i'm itailan

[@jere2963]

Rino Lombardo its italian lol not ur bad

[@protector_of_the_realms]

I've always loved the politics in Star Wars and that has included the Senate scenes, I don't know maybe I'm weird but I've been missing the state of the galaxy and politics in the Sequels. Oh well just another missed opportunity

[@jordanschmidt8940]

I think in books and the clone wars it’s done so much better, maybe cause the better writing and more emotion to it. The politics don’t have to be boring if done well like this

[@hellowhat890]

9:49 "I believe you were looking for ME?" Is that a reference to when Threepio said that in Episode VI to start the ground battle of Endor? XD

[@myyklmax]

The true, unknown scheme of Palpatine, in regards to Mandalore, is the acquisition of the Mandalorian armor for the 'Republic clones' (actually for the coming Emperial forces).

[@procrastinator547]

They must have gotten a shittier version, or gotten weaker while mass producing them. Considering tht armor didn’t even help them with Ewok clubs...

[@myyklmax]

Since the Emperor could not acquire the secret of creating the Mandalorian armor, a young, brilliant, headstrong Emperial cadet named Sabine Ren, of the Mandalorian clan Ren, was requested to create a means to counter the effectiveness of the armor. As described in SW Rebels, Sabine succeeded.

[@franciscovazquezjr4550]

*sees this video drop in our feeds* Us: "I've been looking foward to this."

[@marcushead9985]

The mountain peak thing was canon in the Legends EU as early as Shadows of the Empire.

[@bencebotye3904]

I always taught Satine make an oath to protect the values of the Republic. She and Obi Wan doing the same thing in different angles: Not by destroying what we hate, but protecting what we love. As an EU fan don't like the New Mandalorians. But Satine did what she believe necessary to defend her homeland.

[@The_Sigillite]

I don't mind the idea of the New Mandalorians (Expanded Universe fan as well) I thought it was an interesting take that expanded on the culture of Mandalore beyond purely the martial. That said I always knew this government was going to fail. Satine chose to break away from the martial code of her people when the smarter move would have been to incorporate it into the new system, thereby cutting the people off from their traditions and potentially honour. Doomed from the start.

[@bencebotye3904]

@@The_Sigillite I only don't like that they still all Humans. Warrior traditions should based on culture and aren't species. Like everything it feel more smaller after the change. According to our sources for almost a millenia, Mandalore break with the Crusader traditions. I see that only a minority follow the Supercommando Code outside the system(not Death Watch bloody fanatics and don't respect anything). But the return of the Sith force the Houses of Mandalorian to act. Satine was foolish don't using the culture to unite they people. All Mandalorians around the Galaxy.

[@zaandarbrow]

Yes Friends and nothing more... ... I didnt say that wait a second lol

[@neph6098]

Satine reminds me of Liara from Mas Effect, seems very harmless and peacefull, but is actually a powerful pissed off woman! Also she loves a badas character but she won't really say it...

[@JackToeRip]

I mean, even if Mandlorians implore a new pacifist belief. She's still the Duchess of Mandalore y'know? She's the female ruler of a very old, very formidable world with a long history of warriors able to kill Jedi. You gotta be a bit of a badass just on principle of ruling lol.

[@Vahki100]

Here we have another typical example of Palpatine and by extension - Dooku (as his top man) manipulating a situation so that it becomes ideal for the upcoming Empire. On one hand they are supporting Death Watch and their separatism but make no mistake - in the end they are still just pawns, pawns used to bring the War to Mandalore and then justify a Republic/CIS invasion. Regardless of who wins the actual battle for Mandalore, the Empire is the true winner. Obviously, Death Watch had no idea about any of that. They may have been the ones killing that guy and they may not have been the ones. What's for sure is that they most likely would not have approved of the plan for the message manipulation, because that will just bring a Republic intervention (and from their perspective, an end to their civil war) which might restore Satine's regime and end their growing power.

[@brandonlyon730]

That interesting considering he will eventually directly intervene later on in Mandalore when a particular person starts to butt in on his plans with the planet.

[@Vahki100]

@@brandonlyon730 Just goes on the prove how Palpy had plans for Mandalore. But then again, THAT particular person was such a wild card and genuinely one of the few things which Palpatine never expected in his grand plan.

[@TheGreater-ScopeVillain]

@@Vahki100 Palpatine probably expected someone like THAT person to come along, but in his grand plan, Palpatine knows that that person has to die at just the right moment in order to secure one of his highly sought-after prizes.

[@DTIII]

Duchess/Mandalore stuff is great as always

[@PerovNigma]

I love noticing Almec's silhouette-reflection when he enters the room.

[@voicingdragoon7]

4:45 "These guys are brave" Frankly, that's the only thing that reminds me that these guys are Mandalorians

[@TheGreater-ScopeVillain]

Remember back at the end of Code Geass Season 1 when Zero and the Black Knights began their first invasion of Tokyo and brought down the walls and foundations of the outer city. Lelouch remarked to C.C. about it: _"The layered structure built to be earthquake-resistant, but demolish all of the floor sections simultaneously and you won't find anything to be more fragile."_ Perhaps the same concept can be applied to Coruscant in how the numerous layers of structure built over millennia on the planet's surface has allowed it to become resistant - or practically immune - to such natural phenomena as earthquakes. Just a thought.

[@danw3441]

Rule 32 of women: Never call them hysterical if you don’t want them to become hysterical

[@FirstOrderLego]

Yessss finally!! These episodes make my week :D

[@PedroGBSilva]

So satisfying to see Palpatine apologizing in the end

[@lillith3159]

Im sure that it physically hurts him

[@just_koop]

So about that mountain. Is coruscant an actual natural planet but it’s just so over built with man made building that you can’t see any actual plant life? Are there weather machines. This is all so new to me :O

[@BeePuncher]

Basically, yeah.

[@violentscorl697]

Koop in legends, coruscant is the planet where human life started (in form of the Zhell people). The Zhell that lived there battled the Taung people, which after losing to the Zhell and being forced off the planet retreated to one they called Mandalore, after their leader. They were the original Mandalorians. So... Mandalorians and humans have their origin on coruscant. Also, coruscant‘s climate is managed by weather machines that basically prevent the drastic atmospheric storms the people would suffer at the heights of the upper levels of coruscant. Another fun fact: the entire planet is basically one ginormous city, Galactic City.

[@just_koop]

ViolentScorl very interesting. So basically cybertron from Transformers.

[@violentscorl697]

Koop i don’t know anything about the Transformers universe, but I trust your judgment :)

[@Cdcd4393]

Calling Siteen Hysterical is like telling my wife to calm down lol Obi Wan just learned the hard way

[@captainawesome1316]

I’m 20yo and have seen all Star Wars movies and shows, the clone wars show and the prequels were my favorite just because of the politics and war. :)

[@TheTrueKingofKoopas]

Fun Fact: the Deputy Minister's name: Jerec, is also the name of a powerful High Inquisitor, in Legends

[@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168]

Danke

[@adrynseidl2507]

We can actually make earthquakes back in WW2 called the seismic bomb where it would burry itself deep underground and then explode.

[@Beltims]

Can't wait for the next episode (Death Trap) and the following arc!

[@williamzhang153]

3:35 LOL, this XD

[@99thJediWarrior]

Honestly, the Jedi shouldn't even tie themselves to the Republic. Getting involved in politics is just going to drag them down.

[@ded4lyfe1]

This doesn't make sense.

[@yoyolol22]

@@ded4lyfe1 yes it does you eejit

[@zaandarbrow]

Damn where in the timeline is the senate heist??? XD

[@angramainyu9220]

No kidding. Can't believe how long it apparently takes place after the holocron heist lol

[@helmedon]

Obi-Wan and Satine had a thing back when he was still a Padawan, I think. But I thought that was in the books that aren't canon anymore. That being said, Obi-Wan also had a crush on fellow Padawan and now Jedi Knight Siri Tachi.

[@arcadeinvader8086]

Screamin' bot doesn't do his job for money or fame, he does it because he wants to make a difference.

[@connorboyle2585]

So is oxygen artificially pumped into the atmosphere or are they just used to the low oxygen you'd have at "highest peak on the planet" elevations?

[@jacobhagan389]

Can you guys please watch kenobi by HFP as soon as y’all are done with clone wars.

[@Klffsj]

If you guys get the time, you should react to the Super Smash Wars series by James Farr on KZbin. It's a really cool crossover/mashup between Star Wars and Super Smash Bros.

[@jannaarnold2509]

Dude!!! IS THAT MATT LANTER? The guy that talks to the prime minister +does a British accent lmao

[@jannaarnold2509]

It sounds so weird

[@MCNinjaDJ]

Neutrality and pacifism don't mix. If you're neutral you best be prepared to fight off literally ANYONE xD

[@ryracing3950]

You're right, just like Switzerland

[@brandonlyon730]

Funny thing about Switzerland, during World war 2 Hitler did have plans in invading the country, Operation Tannenbaum. But then decided against it seeing it as a waste of resources and manpower with plans on dealing with Britain first. So the Germans were original going to say skew you to their neutrality.

[@MCNinjaDJ]

@@brandonlyon730 Yeah no exactly. People generally don't bother invading Switzerland because it's just too much hassle. So stay neutral but be willing to fight til your dying breath.

[@jokuvaan5175]

@@brandonlyon730 Switzerland had fairly few mountain roads between them and Germany. They also had plans to destroy those roads and some important bridges. They had explosives ready on these key sites 24/7. They also had hidden bunkers and other military installations. Combine that with the ridiculously hard to advance terrain and their firm claims for neutrality (shooting down allie and axis planes alike that wandered into their air space) and you can see why Nazi Germany didn't bother with them.

[@Haegemon]

I wonder how being a big fans of Star Wars and GoT, in Blind Wave nobody noticed The Expanse. (corrected)

[@codycooper2753]

...what?

[@LuckyDDBH]

@@codycooper2753 "the expanse" Is a book/tv series is FANTASTIC

[@codycooper2753]

@@LuckyDDBH I know what it is but that og comment is a mess to read.

[@Haegemon]

@@codycooper2753 Sorry about that, perhaps my english is unpolished, but it isn't my language at all.

[@codycooper2753]

@@Haegemon I mean I'm sure they know about it. But they don't pick the shows they watch. Their fans voted on it. Also I'm not sure what the connection between GoT and The Expanse is

[@gusto9452]

Any chance of a Hannibal tv series reaction?

[@kylemcdonough8489]

Next week, young Boba Fett

[@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168]

So basically their French?

[@wolfpack_104]

So just how much of Coruscant is the city? Or rather, how far down would you have to go before you hit the natural ground of Coruscant?

[@Antonypancake]

Coruscant consist of 5127 levels, with the lowest levels being uninhabitable

[@brandonlyon730]

If there inhabitable, why are there levels there in the first place?

[@Antonypancake]

@@brandonlyon730 They weren't always uninhabitable. But as the city kept rising the lower levels became polluted. There is however an untouched area on the planet where it's still green, as it was before civilisation

[@auntvesuvi3872]

😊

[@noghrisnest7240]

CLON3 WARS IS TH3 B3ST

[@namecomingsoon9517]

I hated the voting thing in this episode. Why do the votes of other planets depend what happen to another planet

[@milessak1738]

NAMECOMINGSOON it’s like states voting

[@namecomingsoon9517]

Yes but when it’s a whole planet the vote should just be for the person who runs the planet to think about it. Not under-mind her. The leader of the planet should have the choice of letting another planet have a war on it

[@starwarfan8342]

Federal government gets to vote on policy on a nationwide level. Affects all states

[@namecomingsoon9517]

StarWarFan I just was never a fan of that type of stuff. Like a CEO (or the man who started a company by himself) being voted out of the job by people he hired. Like in Arrow when Ray gave Felicity all the rights to the company and she was voted out of the job because she and Curtis made a device that allows cripple people to walk and she wanted to sell it at a low price and they voted to fire her cause they wanted to make money off it. The person who runs the company should have the mane say in any matter. Like the ruler of a planet should choose wether or not to have an army land on her planet. I hate that stuff

[@TheGreater-ScopeVillain]

​@@namecomingsoon9517 The thing is though, despite the planet's official status as a neutral system, Mandalore is still a part of the Galactic Republic, and therefore has to abide by the decisions of the Galactic Senate. The Duchess Satine may govern the planet, but her authority is overruled by the Senate as a whole, of which she is only one out of hundreds. Whether Satine or Mandalore like it or not, the decisions of the Senate (and particularly Supreme Chancellor Palpatine) are absolute. They ultimately have the final decision on whether they send in troops, not Satine.

[@joshwhite1606]

The closest the military can come to making earthquakes I'd guess is with Bunker-busters, or EMPs.

[@jokuvaan5175]

EMP = electro magnetic pulse. Military can create it by detonating a nuke hight in the atmosphere. Underground nuke however is the most powerful way atm to get earth shaking. Like North Korea has benn said to have caused earthquakes with their underground tests in or near their test sites.

[@joshwhite1606]

Jami some High powered EMP's are theorized to slightly destabilize the earth's electromagnetic field, creating an earthquake. Bunker busters or bombs/nukes designed to explode at or below ground are also experimented with.

[@jokuvaan5175]

@@joshwhite1606 There is absolutelly no proof that EMP significantly disrupts the Earths's magnetic field. Let alone that somehow leading to earh quakes. On the scale of the Earth an EMP would be too insignificant. If magnetic field disruptions would lead to earth quakes, there would be quakes all around the World every time a solar storm hit us. Which is pretty much weekly. Compared to the Sun's storms an EMP would be just a a drop in a typhoon.

[@jennym2276]

I hate Palpatine. Every time I see his face I want to slap it.

[@jjc5871]

The anti-war politics, and anti-violence politics in general, make no sense whatsoever. It’s happened in multiple episodes. Refusing to fight to the point of accepting death and being conquered. So idiotic.

[@fakecubed]

Lots of hippies in California.

[@jjc5871]

@@fakecubed It’s a disease that’s spreading.