Blizzard FIXING WarCraft 3 Reforged + REMASTERING WarCraft 1 & 2

[@Timic83tc]

I am going through TFT scourge campaign, still invisible units, overlapping music and broken portraits. Need to fix it proper by just reverting to pre reforge.

[@vmac8972]

No. It completely ruined already existing custom campaigns. Every patch they release destroys the hard efforts of the modding communities projects in reforged engine and they have to go back and fix a bunch of stuff that is tedious and bothersome. The main campaigns are untouched, blood elves and high elves still don’t have their own buildings in the campaign. Blackrock orcs are indistinguishable and could use their own custom units. Broken Isles doesn’t have a proper tile set. I’m really hoping that this isn’t just a single patch to remind us the game still exists and that they actually continue fixing it. Aside from that the ground looks way cartoony that doesn’t match up with the reforged models.

[@henne.0419]

To be fair, it's not uncommon that, after a major patch, mod-creators have to go back and fix the mods for the new version

[@TanniMachine]

@@henne.0419 These custom campaigns, maps, and mods are decades old. Nobody is going to go back and fix them, this isn't Skyrim where you can be safely assured that after every patch every mod will be fixed for the newer patches. For example, portraits are now detached from models. If you created a custom map within the last 20 years before this update, and used a custom model, you will now have to manually change that unit's portrait to the new custom model portrait. Beforehand this was automatic. Now think of custom campaigns which entirely rely on custom assets, without a single vanilla asset in sight. They're going to have to go back and change all of that, which makes it worse that some of these campaigns and maps have authors who have completely moved on from the scene. They did it with good intentions as a QoL, giving creators an easier way to change portraits. But due to laziness and lack of simple forward thinking they didn't foresee that their "QoL" just ends up breaking everything. The only way this can be fixed if they remove the feature

[@henne.0419]

@@TanniMachine Yes that is very sad, downwards compatibility for these things should be a major concern, you gotta leave the legacy systems in place working and add the new features as an option for newly created stuff. Or idk, a legacy mode checkbox that is ticked when the creation version of the map is older than ...

[@coachmcguirk8277]

No, they didn't fix it, lol. Please don't push that idea and give them any credit, Reforged is still worse off than it was pre-release.

[@ChefJeff789]

"Games came in a box bigger than my head." How is that even possible? Lol, naw - I remember seeing the Warcraft 2 Battlechest at the local Costco, and the box was enormous. Probably 3 feet wide, 1 foot tall, and 3 or 4 inches deep. It FELT good buying something that physically large.

[@bfors8498]

that's so funny, I came to the comments to say the same thing (about tasteless's huge ass head)

[@debostahn]

That's what she said

[@IMDee]

when you are young your head is not as big. Googling a little bit reveals that the height and width of a 12year old's head is 20cm X 15cm that's (6inches X 7.8 inches) in freedom units A big box game had a height as far as 45 cm ( 17 inches) and a width as large as 30 cm (11.b inches) . This appears larger than the head. So Tasteless here is not wrong 😂

[@jw8697]

We won't get a StarCraft 3 unless its some kind of prequel to SC2 or even broodwar, because the story wouldn't make sense. You could tell blizzard at that time wanted StarCraft to be finished, due to the ending of SC2 where Kerrigan is magically a xel'naga and is now the most powerful being in the universe amd everything is sunshine and rainbows. Which turned me off blizzard immediately for the same reason. My favorite game lore was now dead, in favor of trying to push different genres of games. I have absolutely enjoyed playing the WC2 campaign again over the last few days.

[@Infernal_Elf]

SPOILER! Story went to shit when kerrigan turned back into Zerg again. After being mostly purified. Ending amon should have been left to the protoss or some other combination.

[@Olagfigh]

There was a ladder for Warcraft 2 Battle net edition, but this dead company removed it with their remaster. Warcraft 1 had a multiplayer too, but that also was cut off from the game with remaster.

[@2un7zu]

Wc1 and 2 remaster is legit awesome. Having a ton of fun on my 4th campaign in Wc2

[@Olagfigh]

Wc1 and 2 are cool games. Blizz did almost nothing for them, so if you enjoyed you enjoyed these old 1995 and 1996 games

[@Leny1777]

We need a Warcraft 2 bnet like the old school and host and join custom games.

[@davidseleznova3199]

The Warcraft RTS team consist of three people, which is why all of the remastered assets where AI generated mostly, with external artist removing the artifacting.

[@Garrus-k1v]

I'm having a lot of fun too. Old games are better than new games sadly :) Just hearing Bill Roper's awesome voice makes me smile. MEN GO TO WAR! Yes, my lord.

[@2un7zu]

@@Olagfigh '94 and '95 actually. Been playing them every year since then :P

[@xgbox]

9:15 CHILLS ALERT

[@MrSoiree]

When you mentioned RTS games being the black sheep at Blizzard all I could think about was 2023 Blizzcon stream intro showing all the games of Blizzard and StarCraft and Heroes were no where in that intro.

[@JL-tv3lw]

"RTS Team" - cautiously it's happening

[@bfors8498]

I didn't get to try warcraft 3 back in the day, looking forward to playing it!

[@HeyLoIo]

really good game. still my fav rts.

[@lysanderhuynh]

You didn't miss much. No one plays the old style like SC 2 and original WC 3. They do not help you expand, and some of them do their own thing now.

[@chrisdude2675]

I didnt like it back then. Warcraft 2 had epic naval invasion battle. They got rid of it for lame super hero powers.

[@HeyLoIo]

@@chrisdude2675 yea i like oil and warships as well. this was just different and now its cool in its own right as well.

[@Hi11Zones]

Its not fixed it's a cheap bandaid

[@AtrumRes]

"Fixed" is a really strong word, they gave 1/50th of what they originally promised so it's something? The slop people will eat up and scream "BLIZZARD W" without realizing how badly they've been fucked.

[@gamewithglory91]

i want blizzard remastered

[@Infernal_Elf]

Lifetime customers spot on. Been a customer since 1998 myself. Quit WoW retail in 2017 only paying subscription ans cards in Hearthstone since.

[@chrisdude2675]

Warcraft 2 was the best. Epic Naval battles. You felt you commanded a whole army instead of a handful of super heroes. Also map editor was so easy to make maps. No understanding of scripting needed.

[@michalvrabec454]

they didn't fix it, calm down, they just made some QoL improvements and that's it, i'm still going to be using SD classic graphics for wc3

[@Leny1777]

I taught you where ignoring Warctaft for a moment there. Glad you got them.

[@mitchelmarvin8040]

We need Warcraft and Starcraft on Xbox consoles❤️👌 And yes it's possible Xbox is THE PLACE FOR RTS GAMES ON CONSOLE!

[@charlieb8735]

This is the first time I’ve had hope for Blizzard in years. I am almost willing to consider the possibility of Overwatch PvE and a StarCraft 3

[@IvanS-n5f]

lol silly.

[@Olagfigh]

Funny, cause this is the first time when I lost all tiny bits of hope for Blizzard because of what they did in their remasters for Warcrafts. This company is dead for me. I really hoped that Microsoft might help them, but that hope is gone now.

[@davidseleznova3199]

The Warcraft RTS team consist of three people, which is why all of the remastered assets where AI generated mostly, with external artist removing the artifacting.

[@davidseleznova3199]

@@Olagfigh Microsoft Already betting heavily on generative AI with a $10 billion investment in OpenAI, Microsoft in November said it is adding an AI design copilot that adds generative AI features for Xbox game developers. “Our goal is to deliver state-of-the-art AI tools for game developers of any size,” wrote Xbox General Manager of Gaming AI Haiyan Zhang. Microsoft said the new AI tools-thanks to Inworld AI, one of the portfolio companies in the tech behemoth's venture arm-are meant to empower game developers and allow devs to turn prompts into game elements, including scripts, dialogue trees, and quests. However, the move received substantial pushback from game developers and performers alike, who said the move threatens their jobs.

[@lysanderhuynh]

Microsoft has experience with RTS like Age of Empires. I just want them to take a break from RPG for once and work on something else. D4 was a disaster.

[@starithm]

But you can't watch replays in WC2. :( Edit: Wait, they have a WarCraft RTS team? :O I hope they fix it and add customizable hotkeys! And also, ranked matchmaking multiplayer! But yeah, it's better than nothing. I'm glad that they at least did remaster WC1 and WC2.

[@davidseleznova3199]

The Warcraft RTS team consist of three people, which is why all of the remastered assets where AI generated mostly, with external artist removing the artifacting.

[@starithm]

@@davidseleznova3199 Sadge. ☹️

[@MetPhD]

Wow I thought this was a fan made game when I saw some footage pop up on my KZbin feed 😂

[@IMDee]

To me this feels like a cash grab. Praying on people's nostalgia to make quick buck. The W3 Reforge and Diablo fiasco was a tipping point for me. It will take a lot more to convince me that blizz are worth my time and energy. As for spending money with them, it will take more than just nostalgia to convince me to pick up my wallet. I am not even mildly impressed with these news

[@1ycan-eu9ji]

"Fixing" is a big word, the game is actually in the worst state now, especially for custom games, than it has been at any point EXCEPT maybe immediately after reforged launch, 4 years of bug fixing down the drain.

[@zarant9716]

Unfortunately the WC2 remastered butchered the multiplayer experience, luckly this time around for all the people who still play WC2 online, the GOG version still works and is much better

[@shikazukachi]

Love your videos

[@HeyLoIo]

reforged and immortal were def the worst

[@lysanderhuynh]

and D4.

[@HeyLoIo]

@@lysanderhuynh facts xD

[@jamessunderland4609]

They didn't fixed shit. But just added AI generated bullshit and the horrible latency is still there. Just stop coping already. Blizzard stopped existing a long time ago.

[@Ideataster]

Upscaling with AI isn't the same thing as "AI generated". It's simply resizing something and making it lose less detail as a result. It's so common that it's native to both modern TVs and modern GPUs to make resolution not negatively impact the experience. I can't think of any remade games that don't use this to speed up development while still using existing textures/assets instead of replacing them. Not defending blizz, just clarifying because I feel like people think upscaling is the same as using AI art or something. They also did mistakenly use concept screenshots that had hand drawn added elements to them on the thumbnails for the shop, but they removed them after like the first day when they realized what they used.

[@IvanS-n5f]

Thats not true ,blizzard never had a bad moment ,EVER. They only made GOAT GAMES. Not a single one was bad.Activision on the other hand...

[@philliplam2704]

It's still better than the trash stormgate artosis momma worked on

[@ezraclark7904]

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[@someguyhere11]