patterning the mossberg sa 28 at 60 yards with viper ammunition | bco review |

[@littlejohnny210]

Handsome Jake! This is why I love Viper Ammunition. 60 yds with a 28 gauge! It patterns better than some at 40. Preach not to push those shots! Respect the 🦃. ❤❤❤❤Viper Ammunition❤❤❤❤

[@justinconyer7940]

What does a box of those 10s run? I don’t have a Facebook and I can’t find them anywhere else

[@littlejohnny210]

​@@justinconyer7940 28 gauge?

[@justinconyer7940]

@@littlejohnny210 yes

[@littlejohnny210]

@@justinconyer7940 $45 for 6 rounds.

[@littlejohnny210]

@@justinconyer7940 Do you want their number?

[@richardmatz6458]

Holly cow! I have been an die hard 28 gauge shooter for grouse, rabbit, dove, quail. I have been toying around getting a 28 for Turkey was blown away with the performance at 40 yards. And yes 60 yards is to damn far to even think about shooting at a Turkey. But good to know if you miss judge a distance you can still take that bird.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Agreed!

[@danielmastin3606]

😮 Holy Smokes 10s. They are sick

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Yessir!

[@darrenbowers3267]

I added a 410 for this year but the 28 has always been known for its pattern and may be the best sub gauge. I wish more were chambered for it in a true sized down gun to match it.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Nothing touches the ol 28 ahaha

[@drewsedera]

Ooooh man!! That's pretty good. Thanks for doing that guys!

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

You betcha! 🔨🔨

[@littlejohnny210]

I know a guy I could put you in touch with who makes this ammo bro! His name is Andrew and he's one good looking guy!

[@outdoorswithroostercurrie6984]

WOW 😮 I LOVE my 28Ga. That I Dove hunt with. The 28Ga. is absolutely a Killing Machine. Thanks for another AWESOME VIDEO. I hope you post your upcoming Turkey 🦃 Hunting Videos.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

We film every turkey hunt we have! 🦃🦃

[@JonathanBranson22]

In the famous words of Billy Bob….”I give it a TEEENNN!”

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ridgerunner6211]

Wow that's crazy 🤪 those 28ga are bad azz for sure.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

100%!

[@rezjr34]

Can't wait boy's to see how it patterns at 60 hope you also do some the hotter core patterns at 60 as well

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

We got plenty coming

[@gradyfuller4880]

Just need to hold on their head at 60 yards for pattern tests. It drops a lot that far out. But it’s an amazing pattern with those 10s. 👍🏻

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

What I was zeroed with was dead money in this test as I zeroed a touch high at 40 with that setup I held waddles and it shot on the money

[@Cannonball2500]

It’s amazing what TSS is capable of. My 12 gauge 870 Super Mag shooting 3.5” Hevi13’s wouldn’t pattern that well 10 years ago. Is 28 gauge the new 12 gauge now?

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

I believe the 28 gauge with tss is above what a 12 with lead was ever at ahahah

[@johnolson8899]

I agree 100% it’s okay to let the turkey win. I don’t advocate shooting them past 40 as a personal preference and up close and personal is where it’s at couldn’t agree more. I will say though it’s still fun punching paper at long distances to to see and scratch the curiosity itch and boy did those 10’s impress. I thought it was going to be very voided and blown out but I was wrong lol. I’m actually floored how awesome those little suckers performed. Great video guys 🇺🇸

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

100% man same here!

[@stevenrega9109]

I've seen my son make 50 and 60 yd shots on doves with the 28it's just amazing

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Yes it is!

[@mikewynings7890]

Freaking insane with the 10s

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Right!

[@kirkalley3469]

Was that turkey on the right napping on a lounge chair?

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

I’ll have to rewatch this as I have no clue what you’re talking about 🤣🤣

[@toronadogofast7868]

On my own testing of duplex loads, i have never liked the patterning. They seem to get blown out, To many gaps develop. Pretty much the same price to load either way, might as well go with the best pattern.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

We have found it just depends on the duplex and who loads it we have some insane patterning duplex loads on the channel

[@eddieb4227]

@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA I think a lot of it has to do with the gun and the choke. Do you run stock issued chokes or aftermarket?

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Everything we pattern is on the turkey pattern series

[@TODinWY]

YOU are RIGHT! You should not have put this out there.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

I went back and forth on this for awhile, at the end of the day I’d rather put it on paper and show the limitations than have people blindly go afield People will do what they do, if they a true hunters they will make smart choices

[@TODinWY]

@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA REALLY BIG "IF".

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

I agree but regardless of what we say or do people like that still will do it, as stupid as it is

[@stephencobb9501]

Did anybody catch how far they were? I didnt hear them mention a range. ..

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Read the title

[@djfogg6185]

Cool video, a while ago I saw a clip of you running just a bead sight and it had a drastic difference on aim, it would be cool to see more videos of using just bead sights to prove how affective your reticle are

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

It can and it can’t it’s all how your shotgun fits you

[@djfogg6185]

@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA yea its just crazy to me to see how from different load to different load they all hit different with the reflex sights. I was just wondering if it holds as true with the bead

[@djfogg6185]

@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA also I only have seen on video of salt creek custom 3.5 inch 2.75 oz shot, did yall ever get that load to shoot good?

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

It would be fairly similar as it’s still a change in point of impact And that load we had to put on hold he’s working on it

[@djfogg6185]

@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA cool thanks on that

[@heathalford4721]

You’d be surprised how many people will shoot the 60 plus yard shots everyday. I hear 60 is the new 40 all the time. But those patterns are very good especially for 28ga

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

It’s awful to hear that

[@heathalford4721]

@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA takes the gun out of it. That’s why I’ve been mostly hunting with 410

[@davidcolon7540]

That was phenomenal 👏 🤘🦃

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Right! Shocked us!

[@jimmysaintsing7919]

That’s pretty freakin unbelievable at 60 yards with a 28 ga.! Just shows what a good choke /load combo will do! Great video guys ! Everybody says they wouldn’t shoot that far , but let a smoker hang up at 60 with a beard that looks like a rope dragging the ground and I bet the safety comes off! Hahahah!

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

No when I say I wouldn’t I mean I wouldn’t… it’s fine to let em win actually we have hunts on KZbin that hawk and I let em walk when we coulda doubled because they were at 45 yards

[@krm944]

Both those patterns are a wet dream for 12 gauge and lead at 40 yards. Maybe even a 10 gauge. Why would anyone want anything more than a 28?

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Right!

[@Thelaubster1]

Because 3.5" long beard xr is about $20 for ten shells and kills cleanly at 65yd and tss is $10-20 a shot.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

This comment is just terrifying…..

[@donald6427]

Might as well do 80 yards

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Not with 10’s

[@donald6427]

@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA no you should

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Not a chance sorry that’s just completely irresponsible

[@donald6427]

@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA but 60 isn’t 🤔

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

If you actually listened to the video you’d know my outlook on it… try listening to the content man

[@davidhealey9275]

This should be good

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

It Twas 🤣

[@tonypeede730]

give the Tens a Ten ring.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

🔨🔨🔨🔨

[@dakotabarriger4546]

Hey you may not like to shoot that far but at least you know it's possible. That's an insane pattern in the 10's, and the 8.5/10 blend was no slouch either. Don't think you would be able to eat the meat without getting some pellets (assuming you still have decent penetration at that range) with how much they opened up though. Still very impressive.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Ya with 10’s I’d be looking for pellets at 60

[@benjaminthaxton5087]

If u have a wounded bird at least you know the follow up shot doesn't have to be close

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Umm what?

[@benjaminthaxton5087]

@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA I have had a bird that was hit before and it's sometimes hard to get 40 yards from a say wing shot turkey knowing u have a gun that will do 60 is nice in that situation with a 2nd shot I should have explained better wing shot birds not great but if you hunt long enough sometimes the excitement gets the best and pull a bad shot

[@DEVILDOG1964]

HOW ABOUT A TEST WITH BOSS TSS #9'S THEY MAKE 20 GA 2 OZ LOAD!!!

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Yep we’ve tested it but I’ll never spend a dime with them in American bastards ever again Here’s why kzbin.info/www/bejne/faaWqpZpdsaipck

[@charlesmccoy2087]

Great video you confirmed I can shoot turkeys at 60 and beyond thanks now I don't have to waste very expensive ammo I am just kidding by the way keep up the good work guys

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Know your setup that’s very important!

[@outdoorswithroostercurrie6984]

Did yall ever do any Gel testing on the TSS #10’s ?

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

It’s coming has to warm up

[@christurnerct49]

I can’t find where to order viper ammunition , I must not be looking in the right place so can you send some info ?

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

They have a Facebook page that’s the last I knew I believe they are loading this year but I’m not positive

[@jordanharlow2040]

Would love to see those tens through the stock choke

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

I think we have? I’ll have to check

[@johnkerr5377]

I noticed a drop in my pattern from 40 to 50 yards aiming in the same place. Did you aim higher than you normally do when you made this 60 yard shot.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

I generally aim higher on 60 yard tests

[@vincehoffmaster-dx5jw]

😮60yrds. It will kill

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Facts!

[@donwarren6534]

Those 10’s at 60 was great pattern and at 40 was super killer but what happens if that birds at 15 or20? Do you think it would be to tight of a pattern where you could miss him? Just wondering because i have never shot tss. Thanks

[@littlejohnny210]

That close it's like a softball.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Mi bet it’d shock you how much leeway you’d have

[@bryansummers8799]

What is the best green dot reflex for the money I know this is off topic of this video

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Holosun 507c x2 green or Holosun 407c x2 green

[@dakotabarriger4546]

If you have already, I haven't seen it, but you guys ever plan on doing anything with 16 or 10 gauge?

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

We want to add 16 gauge to testing this summer

[@merhunts]

Well I guess I'm just foolish, ridiculous and insane, as you say in the video. Because I'm taking a shot at 60 every time if he hangs up and won't come in. But if he is coming in I'll let him come in. But I'm not letting him walk if my set up will kill him at longer ranges.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

I think you need to listen to what I actually said in the video lol

[@merhunts]

I did listen to it. And no offense taken. I know I'm in a minority in my thinking and the majority doesn't agree with me. You kept saying this shot is insane. This shot is ridiculous. This shot is just foolish. I could tell by your demeanor that you hated even making that video. Nothing wrong with that. But it does let people like me know what these shells and chokes can't do at those ranges we are willing to shoot. It's ok that you don't like it. But that is a very dead turkey .

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Taking 60 or further yard shots with 10’s is just unethical it’s not anything more than that I said if I was shooting 60 it’d be 9’s and up only no way I’d pull the trigger at 60 with 10’s maybe our 60 yard penetration test with them will change that but it is highly unlikely that’s what I said And no I didn’t want to do 60 yard and more pattern testing because I know just how most people will use the information that terrifies me

[@huntem_upoutdoors]

Have you guys seen any pattern test with the 16ga tss apex loads? I was thinking about getting my dad some but I was just curious if you guys had tested or seen any test that could help me out. Love the videos keep up the great work and thank you guys for helping us all with figuring out what to hunt with!! Good luck this season

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

You betcha man appreciate the support! We are hoping to add 16 gauge to the testing after season!

[@huntem_upoutdoors]

@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA sweet! Can’t wait to see it! He’s sticking with his ol trusty Remington 870 wingmaster this season. But he’d really like to get a bird with the 16 can’t wait to see you guys test it. Best of luck to y’all this season. Can’t wait to watch your huntin vids!

[@justinkuehl9836]

Patter Density does matter, but I feel your wrong about material Density. Obviously the more dense the material, the better it will pattern. Steel isn't going to pattern the same as TSS. STEEL weighs less then TSS per cc. Also, steel isn't going to penatrate the same as TSS would, at 40 yards, regardless the pattern Density. So as TSS goes, you need to ask yourself what your kill zone limit is, that your confident with. Lead does pattern well, with high quality after market chokes, but doesn't carry the KE per yard as TSS does, using the same shot size. It's not about pattern Density at all, if what your shooting isn't going to lethally penetrate your animals vitals. Compare throwing wiffle balls, and baseballs at a snow drift. Throw them all at 80 mph, at 20 yards. See which .one penatrates the most. Honestly you shouldn't even compare TSS with any other pellet material. It will always win Density and range over lead. Especially in penatration tests.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

I don’t think you understood what I was saying at all here is all that is going on

[@justinkuehl9836]

@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA You guys make great videos and stay on top of the latest ammo and guns. What I would like to see, is for you guys to do a 4 or 5 choke tube test. 40 to 60 yards. With only 1 gun running through the chokes, and maybe 3 or 4 different TSS loads. APEX, Rogue, Boss Tom, ect. Use an actual stabilized shooting position, like a lead sled, or whatever from a bench. If your going to use the bead sights, shoot the loads on paper big enough to catch the entire pattern. Keep up the good work. 👍

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

That’s a costly test right there but we will be doing several tests like that as now that season is passed we have more time for filming got tons coming

[@carlchaney7957]

Sweeeet

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Mean on em!

[@williamshope3791]

Are you still aiming waddles at 60

[@drewsedera]

That's a really good question.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

I was yessir

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

I zeroed this setup so the bulk of the core would be a touch high holding waddles at 40 so that’s why it was dead center at 60

[@williamshope3791]

Thanks for the info

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

You betcha

[@stuartcrane9409]

Pattermaster don’t pattern as good as other non ported Turkey chokes

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Depends on what your gun likes and what you like in a pattern, in mine they’ve been the best pattern in my opinion hands down in every gauge & gun I own now in yours they could be the worst there is no best choke way to many variables in a pattern

[@tasaman]

That will give him a headache

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

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