How Rainbow Six Siege Lost Its Identity.....

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@ryanpeterson3300
@ryanpeterson3300 4 ай бұрын
Removing Terrorist Hunt was a fucking sin.
@rennac3152
@rennac3152 4 ай бұрын
Never forget the white mask
@DylanoRevs
@DylanoRevs 4 ай бұрын
For real. Terrorist Hunt is like one of the core gamemodes for a Rainbow Six game.
@FgyjtIngenieroEuropeo
@FgyjtIngenieroEuropeo 4 ай бұрын
Facts
@PetitAgent66
@PetitAgent66 4 ай бұрын
Nah, the Top 1 sin and purely evil thus showing R6 become very bad was the removing of the recruit in ranked
@L0yalEcho
@L0yalEcho 4 ай бұрын
That was the whole plot of the story and then we have people watching these operators around the world. When the Rainbow team isn’t supposed to be showing their faces as it’s a secret unit. Also I know for a fact that realistically speaking there wouldn’t be that many women in the group.
@Malam_NightYoru
@Malam_NightYoru 4 ай бұрын
Ubisoft downfall made the villain the only likeable character in siege. That's how bad things got.
@RedCommando1084
@RedCommando1084 2 ай бұрын
They did what they do with FarCry! Make annoying allies, but lovable villains.
@PaladinofVulkan
@PaladinofVulkan 2 ай бұрын
@@RedCommando1084I will not take cheeseburger slander
@TospikKing
@TospikKing 2 ай бұрын
​@@PaladinofVulkanthe animals dont count
@The_Rage_Kage
@The_Rage_Kage 2 ай бұрын
Yeah and it was a villain who's entire motivation was "what the fuck did you do to Team Rainbow?" Like he encapsulates Old Rainbow Fans who remember and want it to be a tactical squad shooter against Terrorists and not a PvP Hero Shooter, and instead of being a villain people want dead, he's the only character people like in the entire game.
@Jesus_Offical
@Jesus_Offical 2 ай бұрын
​@@PaladinofVulkan all hail cheeseburger
@Solaires_Little_POG_Champ
@Solaires_Little_POG_Champ 3 ай бұрын
Siege before felt like operators going against operators, Siege now seems like a gang of crackheads fighting another gang of crackheads after they all took a trip to comicon and someone dared to start an argument about waifus
@pedroborbapereira6391
@pedroborbapereira6391 11 күн бұрын
Yeah, like when we start getting a lot of ultra high tech equipment felt weird, but ok. But now, nearly don't fell the CT vibe
@zekenacho
@zekenacho Күн бұрын
nah its not that deep lmao
@JCKillah
@JCKillah 4 ай бұрын
I absolutely love this game and have 5000 plus hours in it over the years, but the game is so far gone from its original roots and doesn’t even deserve to have “Tom Clancy” in its name anymore
@BMP
@BMP 4 ай бұрын
Yeah pretty much agree with everything you said.
@Crazinator
@Crazinator 4 ай бұрын
Same bro honestly I can't even bring myself to play the new season bro it just doesn't feel right like a crippled lady with a robot really
@Yes-qj1kf
@Yes-qj1kf 3 ай бұрын
@@Crazinatoryou can’t be serious. We have ops that can fly threw windows, people that make a fake clone, nanobites that heal people
@Crazinator
@Crazinator 3 ай бұрын
@@Yes-qj1kf that's literally what I'm saying well besides the healing drone of course that one is not as bad but everything else about the game it doesn't really seem like how it is before I mainly bought the game because the of the realism it had even the atmosphere felt realistic too they even remove the old intro and the background of the game it used to be all dark and serious Now its all colorful and doesn't take it self serious over the years they slowly took that part out even terrorist hunt bro and nobody complained about it they even took my boy recruit for some reason and literally and I mean nobody in the community asks for him to get removed and be replaced with new operators that was just straight up lazy and the last straw for me was when they brought in the new operator that is literally in a fucking wheelchair and you're not even playing as her you're just playing as her toys honestly I can see why the community is leaving the game I just realized it's too late
@IHateAmer1ca
@IHateAmer1ca 2 ай бұрын
@@CrazinatorThey took recruit because they ran out of ideas and pretended like it was a rework when it’s the same guys but worse
@drgeorgezervas
@drgeorgezervas 4 ай бұрын
Ready or not really scratched the itch early siege had started. It's sad to see the direction the devs have taken with siege
@BMP
@BMP 4 ай бұрын
Ready or Not is a good game, but it will never fully scratch the itch of launch siege since it doesnt have pvp (to my knowledge) or destruction to the level of siege
@XxOwlStealer69xX
@XxOwlStealer69xX 4 ай бұрын
its also really sad seeing the direction VOID took with RON. horrible AI, ai generated art, horrible 1.0 release with a DLC right after, etc. RON feels like a prototype, and it makes me pissed.
@drgeorgezervas
@drgeorgezervas 4 ай бұрын
@@XxOwlStealer69xX I have installed a lot of mods that make it feel more polished but i see your point.
@Hi-go7nl
@Hi-go7nl 4 ай бұрын
Yeah ready or not is the real tactical game not this stuff but e3 siege looked tactical
@DonnyZaZa
@DonnyZaZa 4 ай бұрын
@@Hi-go7nl try zero hour. its rough around the edges but you can get it for like 7 bucks.
@jakeraines8046
@jakeraines8046 2 ай бұрын
For me the game died when they completely removed the original house map from the game. Yes it wasn't a great map, but not even being able to play the original house map on custom matches just killed the game for me and my friends. The original house was like R6S's very own 2Fort. It wasn't great but it was a map with charm.
@ArberArapi
@ArberArapi Ай бұрын
Idc if it was a bad map it was the dust 2 of seige
@wuhhlfarg353
@wuhhlfarg353 Ай бұрын
I miss plane and recruit in ranked the most
@christopherandrews9232
@christopherandrews9232 Ай бұрын
I agree 100%!! That was just a fun map to screw around on. Loved the garage run outs with the whole team!!
@steven__bills1011
@steven__bills1011 Ай бұрын
Dude I played that map on the beta and as a 15 year old I thought that was the coolest thing ever.
@mailman5043
@mailman5043 29 күн бұрын
Fr bro, when they reworked house it all went down hill. I stopped since year 4 (came back a lil in year 5) and just came back this year snd its a totally different game, it lost the charm that got me playing 7-11 in 2017-18
@YoungunPC
@YoungunPC 4 ай бұрын
Old siege will still hold a place in my heart. It was fun. Current siege is so lost from the original theme, new players can enjoy it but it's sad they wont ever play when siege was at its peak. (That being around parabelum season for me)
@JoshR842
@JoshR842 4 ай бұрын
Some of the peak seasons in siege for me were velvet shell, Red Crow, chimera, grim sky and blood orchid. Added pretty realistic operators and had solid maps. Lore still felt realistic and we had agog on everything. Ubisoft ruined siege and Tom Clancy as a whole
@YoungunPC
@YoungunPC 3 ай бұрын
@JoshR842 chimera was a goated season. Having the event was fun to play and felt like the game wasnt just solely a pvp game and could maybe bring in the coop pve aspect into the game which alot of people would actually love to play but too bad they fumbled that and tried to do react.
@frana1437
@frana1437 3 ай бұрын
@@JoshR842 chimera probably was the best season I've personally played, the outbreak event was something straight out of cod zombies but it was so fun that you'll forgot about it. Also I have some remorse towards Blood Orchid for taking apart the acogs of the MP7 and the 416
@TakehisaYuji
@TakehisaYuji 2 ай бұрын
i dont know the names of the seasons. but last time that i recall this game being good was in the first year, before mozzie and gridlock. when echo was the newest character, he was probably the last cool character in the game.
@frana1437
@frana1437 2 ай бұрын
@@TakehisaYuji I've discovered siege around that time, but I started playing it in velvet Shell which was the season after red crow. My god it was so good. I remember saving up to buy the crossfaded skin but couldn't manage to get it ☹️
@friendlyreaper9012
@friendlyreaper9012 4 ай бұрын
Fortnite is partially at fault here. It gave shooter devs this impression that cameos and character skins are where the money is at. Instead of content and balancing updates. Similar thing happened to Cod.
@BMP
@BMP 4 ай бұрын
Yeah every game wants to be fortnite
@SlaqNarrationHub
@SlaqNarrationHub 4 ай бұрын
Comeos definitely would be cool. I'd rather have Rambo collab than R&M.... I personally have no problem with it, but I understand.
@ALTYNTHEMAN
@ALTYNTHEMAN 4 ай бұрын
Fortnite and overwatch.
@beepz0
@beepz0 4 ай бұрын
yea devs just dont realise another fortnite wont work but warzone is one of those that is half decent
@walmartian422
@walmartian422 4 ай бұрын
Yea something like rambo would of been the shit and he’s armed with a bow with a few explosive arrows and an m60 bro that shit would of been amazing.
@Jerv165
@Jerv165 4 ай бұрын
Not having realistic-looking ops is what kills it for me. I first started to play R6 back before Blackbeard came out and it was great to see how much they tried to copy somewhat accurate attire for ops. Honestly, that part of the game alone helped me stay even with the constant 200ms ping on asia servers (they had very few datacenters in asia back then. You had to force it to connect to the lowest ping server via notepad).
@Glados1080
@Glados1080 2 ай бұрын
I started back in white noise, and I played for quite a while. But Holy shit I tried not too long ago, and they have literally ruined everything about the game. Couldn't play it
@ArberArapi
@ArberArapi Ай бұрын
Seige then was a fucking horror game man , now it’s boring
@Jerv165
@Jerv165 Ай бұрын
@@ArberArapi Playing defense on house was scary bro. Fuze cluster charge on bedroom window while Glaz waits on top of tower looking at 2f hallway through the big window on stairs was heart pumping if nobody played Jager lol
@varsityreviews707
@varsityreviews707 4 ай бұрын
Here's the most baffling thing about Siege's current direction. They HAD Single player missions. They HAD PvE coop. They RUNINED it through various updates, but then decided to try to go BACK to the gritty feel that their old vision was, and instead of trying to improve the existing single player missions, add more PvE coop missions using the already existing models they made for the cinematics, they just removed both the existing Single Player and coop maps, and replaced them with two inferior "warmup" options
@drjamaymay405
@drjamaymay405 2 ай бұрын
T-hunt wasn't good PvE, it was passable as an add-on tutorial. Outbreak was actually good, but it wasn't siege.
@sissel2
@sissel2 2 ай бұрын
You also gotta realize that having T hunt servers available at all times costs money as there are just inactive servers at all times that need to be maintained.
@varsityreviews707
@varsityreviews707 2 ай бұрын
@@sissel2 THunt was Peer to Peer. Besides, they made it playable offline in Year 5
@sissel2
@sissel2 2 ай бұрын
@@varsityreviews707 Damn, well thats just a Ubisoft moment right there.
@connorgilbert1685
@connorgilbert1685 3 ай бұрын
Every game loses its identity as soon as they bring in competitive game tournaments like Esports. Siege went from playing tactically with friends to lean spamming and pixel peaking. Cod went from playing with friends trying to level up and get to the highest prestige, to power sliding, diving and sweating. Fortnite went from a fun arcade type battle royal, to sweat building. All games die, when they get too competitive.
@KevBot360
@KevBot360 2 ай бұрын
From what I’ve seen. Half the time it’s when they force the competitive side onto the casual side, and the other half when they start putting in content that goes against the original theme of the game.
@Chanse1989
@Chanse1989 2 ай бұрын
"In a game built specifically for PvP competition, it sucks that other players are better than I am." -Translated by Google Translate Straight up just a skill issue my boy.
@KevBot360
@KevBot360 2 ай бұрын
@@Chanse1989 do you have anything better to add to the conversation other than a straw man and a write off of criticism.
@KevBot360
@KevBot360 2 ай бұрын
@@Chanse1989 but in all seriousness. The “competitive” players that I deal with throw fits and sabotage games when you use a weapon that is to good in a pve side mode because they think you don’t deserve the kills. Or when they get items reworked because they can’t get easy kills against players that use them thus making them useless in non competitive.
@Kydino
@Kydino 2 ай бұрын
Unless you're a fighting game, that is. Tekken 7 only survived due to the competition.
@Justin-wheels
@Justin-wheels 4 ай бұрын
I wish they would let you turn skins off. I love the original idea of real counter terrorism units coming together to train with eachother and fight real threats. And having each season be based around a new country would have been super cool. I just hope that ubi will give us a proper rainbow six game at some point
@Acistra
@Acistra 3 ай бұрын
Halo MCC allows you to turn off armor customization. I wish siege had that same option.
@slavchansidorov32
@slavchansidorov32 Ай бұрын
@@Acistra even WoT allows you to retain semblance of historical feel
@Texas240
@Texas240 Ай бұрын
Ubi is on its way out of business
@skankhunt47
@skankhunt47 4 ай бұрын
11:30 I disagree. These crazy skins definitely do affect gameplay, making operator recognition way harder, especially for newer players.
@BMP
@BMP 4 ай бұрын
That is actually a fair point I didnt consider
@calopsita4465
@calopsita4465 4 ай бұрын
Also affects the gameplay in the sense, that when i see someone with taste this bad, it makes me want to quit the game
@Monkeymo10
@Monkeymo10 4 ай бұрын
I returned to Siege about 7 years after I left, and lemme tell you, the skins they have now make it so much harder to identify operators. The crossover skins are particularly bad since it literally changes who the op is, or changes their look so drastically, I can't tell who they are (those Rick & Morty skins, my god). Whenever I kill someone wearing one of these outfits, I'm always like "Okay, I got... someone" rather than "Okay, I got Jager". I always say you had to have been there when the skin released in order to tell who it's supposed to be. You'd remember a new skin came out for, say, Ash and know it's supposed to be Ash wearing one of the new outfits. For new or returning players, we weren't there for its release and we're left guessing who it's supposed to be.
@calopsita4465
@calopsita4465 4 ай бұрын
@@Monkeymo10 and they dont even look good doing it
@samplet3xt
@samplet3xt 4 ай бұрын
bro I play fairly decent and it still fucks up your aim when holding a pixel peak and Rick's monstrous greyish blue hair spikes enter your FOV... All of those spikes are as big as a head and the head of rick and morty are twice the size of a normal head and I have no idea where I should aim...
@Joshua-do7vo
@Joshua-do7vo 3 ай бұрын
The Fortnitification of the gaming industry claims another victim.
@DrBossSauce
@DrBossSauce 4 ай бұрын
I will always support non realistic decisions that will improve the quality of the game for balancing. However the UwU anime girls and certain pandering really kills it for me.
@spagettete_
@spagettete_ 4 ай бұрын
Dont use the anime camos problem solved
@SwiKeyMTC
@SwiKeyMTC 4 ай бұрын
@@spagettete_obviously that’s not the point, if people want to see anime girls then they should idk, watch anime or play some game like Fortnite, but to be dedicated to being grounded with reality for over 5 years then for them to go and ruin it. It’s pretty clear they only pander because siege is really the only game keeping Ubisoft above water.
@BMP
@BMP 4 ай бұрын
I would agree. Like the reinforcements just appearing out of thin air and stuff like that that people used to complain about is fine. Its just like you said the skins and lore that ruins it for me
@FemboiMars
@FemboiMars 4 ай бұрын
@@SwiKeyMTC "dedicated to being grounded to reality for 5 years" buddy i walk around with a rubber ducky dangling from the stock of my AR lmfao
@SwiKeyMTC
@SwiKeyMTC 4 ай бұрын
@@FemboiMars hey, leave the duckies out of this…. But come on bro, there’s a difference between running around with a tiny pickle dangling from your gun then a whole pickle Rick gassing the enemies 💀
@yarincool1237
@yarincool1237 4 ай бұрын
Back in like 2017-2018 when i tought of the most realistic tactical game it was r6 siege, it was my favorite game ever back then, look at what they did to my boy.
@BMP
@BMP 4 ай бұрын
I still think the actual gameplay is up there as one of the best. I just everything surrounding that gameplay is atrocious
@24_Hour_Majima
@24_Hour_Majima 2 күн бұрын
@@BMP Nah, they changed far too much since the golden years.
@Gamermonk999
@Gamermonk999 4 ай бұрын
I remember when i was in the marines my buddies got so hyped when cav and cap were released because one was from brazil and the other's parents were from brazil. It was so cool actually learning things about different countries through rainbow.
@BMP
@BMP 4 ай бұрын
Yeah it was one of the things that made the game unique
@princesspupcake1269
@princesspupcake1269 2 ай бұрын
Jesus, that rick-and-morty skin bundle would be enough to make me quit the game then and there
@GiskardRevenlov
@GiskardRevenlov 19 күн бұрын
My friends convinced me to get on siege again after I quit. The first thing I saw was Rick running around. After the game I uninstalled and never came back
@DannyBoy426
@DannyBoy426 12 сағат бұрын
@@GiskardRevenlov😂😂😂😂😂 “Rick running around”
@chrisp7326
@chrisp7326 4 ай бұрын
Trying to make the game lore heavy while being a multiplayer only was a mistake. It's like trying to give CS:GO a deep lore and trying to make sense of everything that's happening in game. They tried to do what Overwatch did by being a lore heavy multiplayer game. Difference is that whole premise of Overwatch was bright and colorful heroes with unique personalities interacting with each other. Meanwhile R6 is about counter terrorism unit doing hostage rescues and bomb defusing. They should've just added a single player campaign if they wanted to add lore to the game
@BMP
@BMP 4 ай бұрын
Lore would've been fine if they expanded on what they had at launch. Instead of pivoting heavily into the game being a simulation
@ryn44
@ryn44 4 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more. If they're spending so much time building a storyline and lore then where is that in the game? Aside from the goofy cinematics that I skip every season, the "lore" is completely absent from the game. In fact they've removed useful lore concepts like Ela and Zofia attributes. I was always hopeful that eventually the game's lore would coincide with the release of a multi-player co-op missions mode where you battle the White Masks, like Article 5 mission at Bartlett University. It wasn't perfect but I played that over and over for the fun of having an extended mission while matchmaking with random people and having a blast. Where is that story line? Why did we go from that to operators with robot arms, cyborg operators, fantasy space weapons, etc.
@mr.froglegs
@mr.froglegs 4 ай бұрын
Overwatch lore also sucks lol
@KeyBell
@KeyBell 3 ай бұрын
Yea man, I feel like multiplayer mode should be separated from lore
@jex-the-notebook-guy1002
@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 2 ай бұрын
Battleborn has good lore
@Panzershrek
@Panzershrek 4 ай бұрын
I am from Sweden, and if Fenrir had a realistic uniform and weapons, I would spend real money on him, but he just looks like a super hero.
@CoreyandCrew
@CoreyandCrew 4 ай бұрын
He also looks like a sickly heroin addict lol
@noahsanogo2975
@noahsanogo2975 4 ай бұрын
If you look at his lore you can see that he was not a soldier in sweden so why would he have swedish gear on
@gato_capitalista
@gato_capitalista 2 ай бұрын
@@noahsanogo2975 So why would he be in an anti-terrorist group previously composed by soldiers and spec-ops police battalions?
@IHateAmer1ca
@IHateAmer1ca 2 ай бұрын
@@gato_capitalistaHe’s a scientist, that’s his only qualification for being here.
@mann3dduck640
@mann3dduck640 2 ай бұрын
@@noahsanogo2975you’re the reason I want the dislike button to be visible.
@Adam-lk2lp
@Adam-lk2lp 4 ай бұрын
this video makes me glad that I played from 2016-2018, was there for the peak and missed the downfall
@dogdog2635
@dogdog2635 Ай бұрын
Left the game early 2020. The rot was already setting in then
@Gengarextreme
@Gengarextreme 4 ай бұрын
I from Portugal and waited years for an operator and a map. We got Tubarao that doesn't represent nothing related to Portugal and a generic map with an unknown location...
@luxpi3096
@luxpi3096 25 күн бұрын
What should i say...... Greetings from Greece
@nasfoda_gamerbrbigproducti5375
@nasfoda_gamerbrbigproducti5375 10 күн бұрын
@@luxpi3096 Your character doesn't even appear on the game, that's sad...
@alejandroviloria7462
@alejandroviloria7462 2 ай бұрын
When the lore went from fighting terrorist to a battle royale. i lost hope :(
@suspicioususer
@suspicioususer 22 күн бұрын
The Tournament of Champions is even more bafling when you look at the original purpose of rainbow in the book. They were suppose to be secretive with the only people knowing about them being the highest positions in government. They would disguise themselves on missions by wearing the uniforms of local SWAT teams
@redbep
@redbep 24 күн бұрын
Ubisoft is seriously outperforming itself, really such dedication to destroy every game they touch deserves at least a medal.
@Gruntilda-Winkybunion
@Gruntilda-Winkybunion 13 күн бұрын
i will never forget the first year of this game. i dont know what it was, but being in the defending team and built those walls, then try to locate the other team via cctv was so aweome
@HardStankThe2nd
@HardStankThe2nd 4 ай бұрын
Ill keep saying it, Rainbow Six Seige is NOT a Rainbow Six, none of this would be what Tom Clancy would have wrote.
@jays.6843
@jays.6843 2 ай бұрын
Tom Clancy was a mediocre at best writer that wrote crazy ass right wing spank material.
@izaakburningham3188
@izaakburningham3188 2 ай бұрын
@@jays.6843 Fuck the political lean have to do with anything?
@drjamaymay405
@drjamaymay405 2 ай бұрын
​@@jays.6843Holy based
@DailyMotv8tion
@DailyMotv8tion 26 күн бұрын
​@jays.6843 Did they spell your name wrong when you ordered your soy latte. Beta 🤓
@schlobster3929
@schlobster3929 21 күн бұрын
I knew this game was going down the pan when they started making anime spin-offs, it couldn’t be further from the original games art direction
@soufinator3631
@soufinator3631 4 ай бұрын
I miss when seasons had themes, each season had its own art and theme inspired by the country of origin for the new ops, or the operation as a whole in the case of Outbreak and Grim Sky, from the maps, the weapons the ops are using which is also used by their CTUs, the music, the animated intro main screen we used to have (press any key), and the seasonal weapon skins themselves, after 2019, it all went downhill not just the balancing, but thematically as well, you can really see it with the battle pass, I don't remember a single battle pass that has a consistent theme across all its items, it just shows that they put random bundles to fill the BPs, and don't get me started with the universall weapon skins included there, they are awful And the name change, the awful UI, the operator designs (which got really good I won't lie), the map reworks that get rid of what made the old map unique (Oregon), god, what with Ubisoft downgrading the things that made me love their games
@KR13GER_N4TION
@KR13GER_N4TION 4 ай бұрын
One of the things that I missed were the Title screens.
@thepurpleemu
@thepurpleemu Ай бұрын
Fuck the new ui. It makes me never want to touch the game
@nasfoda_gamerbrbigproducti5375
@nasfoda_gamerbrbigproducti5375 10 күн бұрын
@@KR13GER_N4TION The theme songs gave me chills
@TheBubtu
@TheBubtu 3 ай бұрын
I kinda miss the dark and misty atmosphere from back then. At times it had the thrill of a horror game when you entered a building. And the more realistic recoil was cool imo. It felt less like CoD. That was cool! I still love playing Siege tho.
@playerone8441
@playerone8441 4 ай бұрын
I don't know if this game is still "tactical". It feels more like a fast-paced aggressive shooter. It's probably just me, I don't know how to play.
@Oscar97o
@Oscar97o 25 күн бұрын
The gameplay didn't change.
@weaponizedautism3269
@weaponizedautism3269 20 күн бұрын
​@@Oscar97o Yes it did Back then i remember players taking it slow and being all tactical Nowadays attackers just rush in like crackheads I remember reinstalling siege after 3 years and getting jumped as defender 5 seconds after match started
@Gorslax
@Gorslax 2 ай бұрын
I sound like such a boomer when I tell people what siege was like in season 1 and the beta.
@RKNGL
@RKNGL 17 күн бұрын
I feel ya man.
@chokishin2038
@chokishin2038 4 ай бұрын
POV Ubisoft: fun? Realism? Buffs? What’s that?
@spagettete_
@spagettete_ 4 ай бұрын
Adding new content? Whats that?
@satiresalesman6545
@satiresalesman6545 2 ай бұрын
“Fun, whats that? Do we sell it in the marketplace?”- Spadez
@legiongaming99
@legiongaming99 2 ай бұрын
Removing the old maps was really the nail in the coffin for them especially house it was the 1v1 and 2v2 map for fun. They could've had twice the amount of content but ruined it 😂
@BennyBoy025
@BennyBoy025 18 күн бұрын
Me and my friends spent so much of lockdown doing 2v2's on house. Then they removed it and we had to play on plane instead, which was just not the same.
@SpiritumTimoris
@SpiritumTimoris 4 ай бұрын
I left the game after the season where Flores dropped because of school and just a lack of desire to keep relearning maps and ops. Coming back in 2024 before the skopos season I felt like I had never even touched the game other than I remembered some maps
@BMP
@BMP 4 ай бұрын
Yeah the game is completely different. I still enjoy siege, I just miss when it tried to be a more gritty experience
@zZ---
@zZ--- 3 ай бұрын
i miss old siege man 2016-2017 was peek i just quit and never looked back seeing wha has happend to this game in the last few years im disgusted
@simon.r.k
@simon.r.k 4 ай бұрын
To me the most disappointing part about the lore is the overall pacing. They deploy the story over the course of a year using one CGI animation, 4 short animations and 4 comics. While the animations are connected to the comics withhin the same season, they seem to barely relate outside of the season. It is almost like writers want to explore a cool story about a character but they get distracted by their new favourite toy (the next operator). An example would be nighthavens absence while team rainbow was hunting deimos. Considering the trouble he caused nighthaven I expect nighthaven to do more than to wait until deimos is arrested to show up again inform of having osa being the creator of talos and colossus.
@Tom_K
@Tom_K 4 ай бұрын
You'd think that a PMC like Nighthaven, whose actions at times are definitely morally and legally questionable, would try to off the guy who caused them so much trouble... but apparently not.
@Rutherfordium2023
@Rutherfordium2023 Ай бұрын
Siege breathed its last breath when the original house map was removed
@Reveal_City
@Reveal_City Ай бұрын
I still wish we'd gotten Patriots instead. There is a complete lack of single-player tactical shooters these days, whereas always-online hero shooters are a dime and a dozen.
@montanablackhardcorefan6974
@montanablackhardcorefan6974 Ай бұрын
yes
@KingKakarott
@KingKakarott 2 ай бұрын
I remember playing this game nonstop for 3 years straight since launch. Tried hopping on and its not the same game for sure.
@ryryhc
@ryryhc 3 ай бұрын
When i first started to play i only played on fridays and weekends so during the week when i was at school all i could think during my breaks was how excited i was to play siege. One thing i remember is that i used to love looking at all the different special forces and the weapons they used and seeing that in game. I was so fascinated by how each country had their own CTU own weapons, uniform and history. I would look up the real CTUs in real life and it would just make me want to play siege more. So the new direction that the game is taking does make me a little sad because it really enhanced my game experience
@rcinpact4480
@rcinpact4480 4 ай бұрын
From M to mature to K for Kids.
@Handletoncity
@Handletoncity 4 ай бұрын
game chat rated e10+
@youtuberuser0109
@youtuberuser0109 4 ай бұрын
Ion think chun li or 2B or yakuza are considered kid characters but true
@hithedestroyer4065
@hithedestroyer4065 2 ай бұрын
​@@youtuberuser0109Nier automata is rated m
@youtuberuser0109
@youtuberuser0109 2 ай бұрын
@@hithedestroyer4065 thats what i said lol… they’re not kid characters.
@hithedestroyer4065
@hithedestroyer4065 2 ай бұрын
@@youtuberuser0109 OK looking back I was misreading what said but were you responding to someone because your opening is weird
@IronVigilance
@IronVigilance 2 ай бұрын
R6: We are a top secret multi-national counter terrorism unit. We must be kept a secret from the world so the enemies don't know our missions, tactics and identities Also R6: Let's hold a giant airsoft match in front of a crowded stadium and televise it to the world like it's the Olympics, so everyone knows our tactics and identities.
@nasfoda_gamerbrbigproducti5375
@nasfoda_gamerbrbigproducti5375 10 күн бұрын
It's incredible how not a single terrist group attacked them during the airsoft games.
@playerone7832
@playerone7832 2 күн бұрын
The turned it into a kid friendly Apex Legends wannabe. Adults need their games to.
@tavish4699
@tavish4699 24 күн бұрын
i like how some guy thought we have a game about the best anti terror units on the world and we should remove the terror and basicly turn it into a paint ball match between them
@JumboFe1337
@JumboFe1337 4 ай бұрын
We lost Rainbow Six Patriots for this Clown Fiesta I will never forgive UbiSoft for That.
@FootOfOrion
@FootOfOrion 19 күн бұрын
I will never forgive Ubisoft for how it tarnished Tom Clancy’s legacy. Ruining Ghost Recon and R6. Thank god they let Splinter Cell die before their games got bad.
@mattwong5403
@mattwong5403 4 ай бұрын
When it comes to realistic aesthetics, what the devs should do is something similar to MWIII where the base design of operators features a "mil-sim" design while reserving the more unrealistic skins, like Godzilla, for DLC
@thomrik
@thomrik 23 күн бұрын
The first two-three months of Siege were incredible. The most interesting FPS to come out in YEARS, it was all downhill from there.
@jackgamer6307
@jackgamer6307 2 ай бұрын
Siege's downfall made me buy Ready or Not instead. Not just because the style, but the insane shift to E-sports focused decision by the devs
@agenericguy1014
@agenericguy1014 25 күн бұрын
Same,I pretty much stopped playing R6S and started caring about RoN instead. RoN is basically what R6S should've been. A dark,gritty and realistic tactical shooter that has these trained professionals going against armed terrorists,not a bunch of guys in costumes with guns fighting in a dumb tournament
@KeyBell
@KeyBell 3 ай бұрын
The tried to tie the lore with multiplayer, which is hard to get right. They should've made a story mode for the lore like a campaign, and just have the multiplayer as this "what if" scenario
@CookieMonster-nt8hh
@CookieMonster-nt8hh Ай бұрын
I remember the good old days. it felt so different. just you, your team mates, an EMP nade an a thermite charge...
@Superglitchym
@Superglitchym 4 ай бұрын
The moment recruit lost his many load outs was the day siege died
@LT.BACON_
@LT.BACON_ 3 ай бұрын
I left the game for this reason, I didn't like how they were twisting R6's identity and didn't like many technical moves either. It breaks my heart because I've tried to play the game again but I just don't feel the soul it used to have, that thing that made it special and made it stand out above other games.
@Muricanwerewolf
@Muricanwerewolf 2 ай бұрын
Tom Clancy is spinning in his grave so fast we could harness him for infinite energy
@leeweesquee
@leeweesquee 3 ай бұрын
Remember, Patriots died for THIS
@Frostaltered
@Frostaltered 2 ай бұрын
I remember being sooooo excited for Patriots. I read about it in my GameInformer. I think that game was canned because it was an entire game about a terrorist organization (and supposedly some Rainbow Operators) kidnapping and threatening to kill greedy CEOs and high level individuals in society due to their actions and choices. So I bet a lot of stuffed shirts at Ubisoft felt uncomfortable about it and decided to trend chase when hero shooters were getting bigger so they canned Patriots. At least that’s what I think happened
@SlaqNarrationHub
@SlaqNarrationHub 4 ай бұрын
If Ubisoft cared about their fans, they'd make an E3 version of Siege with a new engine and build current siege off that but make current siege free. Also, giving an e3 version of siege a level based pve would be cool.
@Stringer710
@Stringer710 25 күн бұрын
Sad to see a game I once loved so much fall so hard. Even streamers are losing views.
@craigbarry_65
@craigbarry_65 4 ай бұрын
I personally think the drive for the ‘lore’ is what killed the game. Trying to make characters fit into a story line ultimately got us to here.
@kerbalairforce8802
@kerbalairforce8802 Ай бұрын
In the Rainbow Six book, all the operators looked like "Recruit" and would slap the local law enforcement patch on the uniform to maintain secrecy.
@Wembley624
@Wembley624 4 ай бұрын
I think they went too futuristic with this game. Same happened to Ghost Recon Breakpoint, Watch Dogs Legion.
@agenericguy1014
@agenericguy1014 25 күн бұрын
I'm still pissed that they focus too much on the competitive section of the game instead of the lore,worldbuilding and ESPECIALLY coop. It went from this cool unique PvP+PvE,immersive,realistic and intense cops and robbers style game to another generic FPS. I'm fine with it focusing on PvP, but not the point where PvE was straight up almost forgotten. This is why I'm glad Ready or Not exists since it's the game that I wished R6S was
@kergdersin6064
@kergdersin6064 4 ай бұрын
I always thought it would be cool to have operator specific/exclusive charms, because you would be able to show character and personality with that and having them bright and colourful.
@opfortjp3777
@opfortjp3777 Ай бұрын
Appreciate the time you took to show the devolution of the title. As someone who played almost all of the original Rainbow Six's and Ghost Recons, that were fantastic and some of the best games at that time, it's a shame to see the core DNA ripped out to just fit in like all of the other shooters. Indie is where it's at! Good work!
@markfreeman4727
@markfreeman4727 4 ай бұрын
the explanation for this is simple, new management came in, demanded Siege start printing money like fornite and COD. Everything but the skins and microtransaction department got cut to the bone, the story was butchered to accommodate the 'general audience' and the in game cash shop. The fact that siege was destroyed in the process and us a shell of its former self is being drowning out by the oceans of money being generated by these scummy tactics
@andyasbestos
@andyasbestos 2 ай бұрын
It looks like there's a continuing wrestling match between the dev team trying to maintain the original vision, and Ubisoft executives impulsively chasing the latest trends.
@mtbjon3587
@mtbjon3587 2 ай бұрын
10:03 they didn’t have plot armour. They had rook armour!
@malekithsilverheart2357
@malekithsilverheart2357 2 ай бұрын
I’m still mad about how Zero isn’t an attacker Caveira, even when in the cinematics it shows him sneaking around being an assassin.
@EnjoyerOfBirds
@EnjoyerOfBirds 17 күн бұрын
"remove T-hunt and make it lame and gay" -ubisoft probably
@SouperWy
@SouperWy 3 ай бұрын
I quit a few years ago when it started losing it's identity. Sad to see how far gone it is.
@Tiemurillo
@Tiemurillo 4 ай бұрын
9:48 dude you cant just kill off playable characters, especially in a game where you can buy character specific cosmetics. People would be pissed.
@ryn44
@ryn44 4 ай бұрын
I don't see why not. Knowing how irrelevant to gameplay the lore has become I doubt they'd even remove them from the game. It's simply for the cinematics and comics they're making.
@joshfromsmosh3352d
@joshfromsmosh3352d 3 ай бұрын
Say what you want but it's one of the biggest things this game needs. The game's core is bloated. About time we trim that fat off
@BOOMERSQUAD64
@BOOMERSQUAD64 4 ай бұрын
9:45 Doc got shot in the head but the bullet caught in his visor
@alternativewalls4988
@alternativewalls4988 2 ай бұрын
Pre-year 1 was peak. Everything after that went to shit since they wanted people to pay for new operators. And id say all of it sid have an impact on gameplay since they always were trying to one-up previous operators and completely disrupting the core rock, paper, scissors mechanics of the original operators
@dankdaze42069
@dankdaze42069 19 күн бұрын
Which is ironic cuz all they care about is finding identities with their characters😂."look it's in a wheelchair it's useless We didn't even actually put it in the game Do you feel included"-Ubisoft who somehow thought that would be a good idea
@name1585
@name1585 2 ай бұрын
1:05 I heard that apparently this trailer is actual gameplay, it’s just from an extremely early build of the game
@BossKing1243
@BossKing1243 Сағат бұрын
lmao good joke 😂
@kiddreckless9964
@kiddreckless9964 2 ай бұрын
Remember when the game was tactical shooter with counter terrorism groups teaming up together? Now we have a game that has the writing and characters we would see in a anime.
@LD-pt5ur
@LD-pt5ur 2 ай бұрын
Seems to be a common theme amongst FPS shooters today. Fortnitification is real, and R6 and CoD have lost their identity.
@evilleader1991
@evilleader1991 Ай бұрын
Its a literal clown show
@syankha8329
@syankha8329 2 ай бұрын
Started playing in 2017 and played till 2019 non stop for 3000+ total, but i stopped playing fully in 2020. No more dead bodies, graphics and gameplay is arcady, gunplay no longer feels the same since the new recoil rework, gay shit being added, and so on. It just feels mediocre at best nowadays, i don't get the same joy i used to from siege, and i ccan't jsut chill and imemrse myself in the atmosphere the game used to have. Night maps were fun and looks nice, but they removed it and man do i miss old siege. I am somewhat a pro too, but i don't focus on rank that much so my peak was diamond 5, but my kd is mostly 1,3 across all seasons.
@tnductai
@tnductai 4 ай бұрын
every long running tittle has to evolve to keep its audience, skins are part of that, nobody would pay for recolor skins, they want different uniform, animated skins. siege is still a toned down version of other shooters compared to other games like cod, it's full blown animated galore, and not a military fps game anymore
@thatoneantoid51
@thatoneantoid51 4 ай бұрын
Honestly it isn't a matter of it WILLINGLY toning that down. It's most likely if they added the crazy shit you see in Valorant or COD the game would shit itself. That or the new skins would just make you invisible as they tend to have some every update they add any.
@Tom_K
@Tom_K 4 ай бұрын
Evolution does not have to lead to a loss of identity, OP.
@rarinrecruit3150
@rarinrecruit3150 Ай бұрын
Old Siege gave birth to a special place with me. I loved to main the Recruit due to his uniqueness with a super wide weapon choice and versatile gadgets. I would perform clever moves like a Ballistic Shield with a Frag, C4 under Barbedwire, etc. Due to his low pick rate it made me feel more standout when I would perform fairly well with him, and it would even give birth to an idea of a Rebel Soldier, striking out against the Rainbow member for the lack of respect he was given, even the inspiration for my PFP. Then Recruit would be taken away indefinitely, replaced and no longer hold the same magic.
@Starlesslemon
@Starlesslemon 4 ай бұрын
First two years were so peak
@JackDisturber
@JackDisturber 25 күн бұрын
I see this everywhere. Companies trying to jump on a hype train and just constantly recycling or stealing others ideas instead of creating their own vision of the product. Doing things because others do them too. It may seem as a successfull strategy in the beginning but always a loss in a long run
@dalazyworf
@dalazyworf 4 ай бұрын
This shift honestly doesn't full surprise me. Especially when you understand the bizzare shifts in management for these titles that have been live for a good chunk of time. There is a core vision but once something that isnt fully intended or was a mistake ends up drawing in more poeple and with that money. So why try to nuture the audience you where casting a small net for when you can go bigger and pull in a larger haul. For us who love that tactical/milsim aesthetic and gameplay, seige and other shooters are no longer made for us. It sucks but the quicker we can accept some of our beloved titles are no longer for us the better we can branch out and experience projects and games that are made for our tastes.
@littleyoman
@littleyoman 4 ай бұрын
i already know this video is gonna blow up
@nathan_tm24
@nathan_tm24 4 ай бұрын
Might be a unpopular opinion, but I miss the old lightning before y2s3 (where they improve it). I liked the dark areas, night maps. Yes it was difficult but it was part of the game
@hackerino9707
@hackerino9707 3 ай бұрын
Very well said, thank you. What I liked, that the operators had a little bit hidden identity in the beginning, with masks and helmets and all that special force stuff.
@zeged
@zeged 4 ай бұрын
I've played since y8 s1 but can tell the game really started to become a hero shooter or a unrealistic game when iana released. But its officially been gone since sens released.
@Blu_Moon_Owl
@Blu_Moon_Owl 18 күн бұрын
The way I see it is Siege lost its style because it and be extent Ubisoft “stylize” Siege. As the game went on, the characters, customization options with cosmetics, and the overall UI and menus of the game slowly became “stylish” instead of realistic. In turn losing the charm of it being a mostly grounded military shooter with some flair with all the unique gadgets to specialize characters that have technological advance gadgets
@JuiceJive
@JuiceJive 2 ай бұрын
As a fan of Rainbow Six since 1998, this sounds like a woman who got a man to get a divorce, married him, then gets surprised when he cheats on her a few years later. Brother, the identity was lost a decade ago.
@Darkangell7w
@Darkangell7w 9 күн бұрын
One strange element of the lore is the crossover event in Breakpoint. Rainbow and the Ghost Recon unit end up identifying a cult planning terror attacks. Once they get that intel the narrative was that Rainbow took down the cult’s terror cells around the world. That is seriously a perfect Rainbow storyline that would make a great campaign. Yet it’s just a tiny bit of exposition that shows up as a crossover in a different IP. If they made some sort of DLC like that for Siege I would buy it this instant.
@PaulDaPig
@PaulDaPig 4 ай бұрын
I definitely think games need to think of collabs that make sense. Fortnite can literally do whatever they want. Dead by daylight and fnaf collab coming 2025 makes sense cause they're both horror games. Running around as Mr meseeks from Rick and Morty on Ace doesn't make any sense and I never expected that collab. The Dead By Daylight skins in siege make sense though cause kapkan got trapper skin and he's a trap op and finka got huntress because finka is resilient just like huntress in her lore and makes me actuallly enjoy using her.
@PaulDaPig
@PaulDaPig 4 ай бұрын
Also, your videos are very enjoyable to watch. Don't stop, please 🙏
@dhuh6760
@dhuh6760 2 ай бұрын
The saddest thing is that all of this flies in the face of the first parts of Siege's name. Which, is frequently omitted, because of how disconnected they are! RAINBOW SIX. AN ESTABLISHED UNIVERSE. Completely tossed away.
@benjaminw6985
@benjaminw6985 2 ай бұрын
No no, they fucked up by using the same build for esports as for consumers. So consumers watch the esports and see their strats and thus Ubisoft have to balance it for the esports crowd. But the reason I stopped playing was the fucking lack of support for solo players. Every time an operator is decent enough for solo play, it gets abused in esports aaaand now the op is nerfed. The final nail was the fucking operator vote dealio
@lee-cl8td
@lee-cl8td 23 күн бұрын
This is a Ubisoft game? That in itself is a reason and can arguably be the only reason this game lost itself
@Caliburnz
@Caliburnz 4 ай бұрын
This is a huge reason why I quit siege years ago. There’s just an over-saturation of characters and ridiculous things you’d see in games like Valorant not to mention the ridiculous cosmetics, no issues with like an anime gun camo or something but the other stuff is just ridiculous. The final nail in the coffin was Ubi removing so many features like TH, that one zombie side mode they took away and sold it as a separate game with a different look, and ruined my beloved House.
@chadmanster1883
@chadmanster1883 2 ай бұрын
The destruction is why i wanted to play this game at launch. Reminded me of a tactical battlefield 4 (from a destruction standpoint)
@OkieDokieSmokie
@OkieDokieSmokie Ай бұрын
I have a few thousand hours in Siege but I’m never playing again. It’s turned into fortnite in a house. That’s not even mentioning the woke pandering
@krycha885687
@krycha885687 21 күн бұрын
I loved playing night version of maps: favela, bank, etc. It was fun as it was usually darker indoors and allowed for better concealment. They removed it making it only gunplay, who is faster and not who takes the better position.
@LoraDellaPizza
@LoraDellaPizza 4 ай бұрын
all my feelings in one video :*)
@wolfmirebacta8710
@wolfmirebacta8710 19 күн бұрын
Makes me sadder every day that games like Due Process or just floating around. Man I miss it
@Rejjjjjjjjjjj
@Rejjjjjjjjjjj 4 ай бұрын
5:01 the worst example of this is thorn because as an Irish person we have no army and guns are illegal unless it’s for hunting it truly shows how little research they put in these days
@aaronpower99
@aaronpower99 4 ай бұрын
She’s part of the Garda emergency response unit which is a real unit in An Garda Síochána… and we have the Irish Defence Forces which is our equivalent of an army.
@Rejjjjjjjjjjj
@Rejjjjjjjjjjj 4 ай бұрын
@@aaronpower99 I stand corrected
@Legion_YT_
@Legion_YT_ Ай бұрын
I’ve always thought about a game mode for siege where everybody is a 2 speed recruit and each side has just enough gadgets and equipments for planning and strats but less reliant on crazy abilities and more reliant on gun fighting and strategy.
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