BMW E90 CIC Retrofit DIY + Full Coding (E91, E92, E93)

6512 9239214 - CIC Head Unit - There are various part numbers for this. Type in this part number or "e90 CIC head unit" in eBay and look for the one with the latest build date so it is more likely to have the .C1A firmware. Price should be $100 - $250.
65829193745 - CIC Screen - This is the best version of the screen since it has the clear plastic protective shield which only came on 2009 or 2010 model years. You can tell it's the right one based on the silver back and pink connection for the cable. Price should be $100 - $150.
61119185171 - CIC screen to head unit cable
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61129255716 - CIC head unit to glove box USB port cable
www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-b...
84109237656 - Glove box USB port
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61136954526 - Socket housing for CIC screen pins
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51169143599 - Bracket for glove box USB port
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BMW Standard Tools free download (INPA, NCSexpert, Tool 32) www.bimmergeeks.net/downloads
FSTool free download
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FSC Code Patcher
mega.nz/file/7k0CUKbZ#J2GNqrt...
Map data download with instructions
www.e90post.com/forums/showth...
Key generator download with instructions
www.e90post.com/forums/showth...

[@robertsarbinowski7347]

BEST DIY CIC Retrofit guide on the World! Thank You so much for you video! ❤

[@augustoyep722]

Great Video! Thank you! I just got the sound to work so far. Still working on the Navi

[@mR_Reddexe]

Just did this to my car! It was awesome!

[@Winter1256]

Excellent as always 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@camilovillanueva77]

This video was great! So I was able to unlock the audio back into the car! Long story short my cic stopped working and new cic after install won't start audio or navigation . I got the audio back but navigation still dead

[@Garik.e60]

Love the chanel Keep the vids coming 👍🏻

[@LuisGonzalez-ph8zp]

Thanks for all the info man I just downloaded all the software I just need to hit up that junk yard again come up on the head unit display and hopefully the original cables that way I won’t have to order any

[@user-jq8sh6sq2r]

крассссавчег, прям прожевал все как положено, кучу времени мне сэкономил. благодарствую

[@Weldeddiff]

I just did this to my E92, Thank you ! Everything works great 👍

[@Righteous_Roots]

Good diy

[@stefankrol4034]

i`m gonna try this tomorrow. hope it works. cic works already with the combox but need to activate the navigation. was about to get an emulator but your DIY looks really good and easy to do,

[@bmwdiy]

Thanks, you don't need an emulator if your car has navigation from factory.

[@stefankrol4034]

​@@bmwdiy it keeps giving me an error when I try to store fscs cert. Any idea what I may have done wrong? Everything else worked, got the red screen and it started right back up.

[@herbpippin9602]

Good DIY

[@Wergrun]

Just pulled basically all the parts at a u pull it. The pink cable was easier but the glove box usb one was a but of a hassle. I cut the other cable to the screen and will repin it to mine $116 total 👌

[@Wergrun]

Update got it all in and it works!! Audio works from the radio and previous owners music plays but aux in armrest doesn’t. Im assuming its a coding thing cus I havent done anything yet with that

[@johannesrose2078]

Awesome videos. Thank you for all the infos. Can you explain exactly how you activated the Navigation? Also do you know how I can program an FSC code for the satellite radio?

[@billyowusu48]

Yes please do a combox retrofit. I’m confused on what wiring is needed. I know there’s a kit for the mulf/tcu but I’m not sure if fakra cables are still needed for the other side of the combox (the connectors that are color coded).

[@bmwdiy]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWm4lKifjamiqNE

[@piroozhr7968]

Excellent DIY. Can we expect a Combox installl and coding video too soon?

[@bmwdiy]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWm4lKifjamiqNE

[@alexpupov5581]

Hello, I’m from Vancouver as Well planning to do the retrofit on my 645ci

[@ahmedalqazzaz1775]

Please tell me this should work on E60? Great video by the way!

[@dirtleg13]

Man I have tried to get the option codes to stay in the CAS but everytime I check back it is back to the original default codes. Not sure why but it just is. Thanks for the great video however. I have definitely benefitted from your work here.

[@ZamZ897]

hey @bmwdiy, first of all thank you for the detialed video. It made the process of changing out my CCC HU to CIC so much simpler. I had a question as I am still struggling to make my navigation work. the FSC codes seem to have been accepted using the SWT patcher. The issue I am having is that when I click on navigation the message "starting navigation system displays and it just gets stuck on this screen. I am yet to update the maps and enter the code from the FSC generator as the system does not get past the loading screen. Any ideas or a solution as to what i might be doing wrong? thank you in advance

[@user-mj2fr6nn1x]

Cool

[@mjso3373]

@BMW DIY This was an amazing walkthru of the cic process, I have a 2010 e90 with the cic iDrive system (non combox aswell) it went to the body shop for a couple weeks and when I got it back from them my iDrive system is stuck constantly rebooting itself after a couple minutes of operating, I’ve been doing some research and reading forums of people with the exact same or very similar issue and alot of it points to having to replace the cic + recoding the new installed cic to my vin. This was by far the best video I seen on KZbin describing the process A-Z but I have a couple of questions in regards to this process if I were to tackle this job on my own comfortably, is there any way possible to contacts you via any form of social media or email for a couple brief questions, that’d be extremely appreciated. Extremely impressed with your coding skills man you could be making money from this from what I just watched, great job brother. Best regards!

[@bmwdiy]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWm4lKifjamiqNE

[@mjso3373]

@@bmwdiy I emailed you, please let me know if you’ve received my message 🙏🏽 my email starts with the 3 letters - mtm

[@ronhannigan2053]

Did you get in touch with him? I am local to him and would like to contact him as well.

[@dho]

This is amazing man, the most thorough video I've seen. I do have a question though, I have a plan to use an aftermarket display that has the apple carplay/android auto functions. Are there any issues you might see with that or am I good with just doing all the normal steps of the retrofit but with replacing the normal CIC display with the android aftermarket display?

[@bmwdiy]

The only issue is that the aftermarket android screen can only connect through AUX audio which is crap compared to USB. Also it will come with all these extra harnesses that make it so cramped back there and prone to overheating. I recommend you just do the Combox upgrade so you can get OEM Bluetooth Audio and Spotify on your Idrive screen if you have the USB port in the armrest. What more do you really need while driving? kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWm4lKifjamiqNE

[@sahlabbessi1317]

Wao What a great video and great content really, I have a bmw E60 , i have done the retrofit and i really need assistance with coding, i don't need navigation since it doesn't work but can you please help me get it coded since the tpms of my prelci 525d isn't recognized

[@Fancy669]

How to know What you need to.manuplation? + wich date you need to set ?

[@CYP228]

Hi, great video. Do you know how I can get the aux to work on my car. I have done non i drive to cic conversion on a 2007 e92 but now the aux doesn’t work. Thanks

[@oragebull3508]

Will be the coding options same, for non Idrive to CIC Idrive retrofit?

[@2802Luni]

I have an issue with Tool32 to get my CIC Mid to match the VIN of my car. For CIC Business the .PRG are CICMR. For CICMR_GW and CICMR_SD the „aif_schreiben“ worked. But when trying to do „aif_schreiben“ I get „error_ecu_service_not_supported“ as a response and the VIN is not written. Do you have any idea why?

[@ronaldallen2710]

After changing the build date and add $6VA, I still don't get the option fir CIC in the ECU list?

[@813cyrus]

Very helpful. But you can tell what generation he his from because he calls it a hashtag when it is the pound symbol.

[@path4427]

Did you use the ccc controller or upgrade to the cic?

[@bowcatone]

Great stuff, Would the coding be the same for an e60 CIC retrofit?

[@bmwdiy]

Yes

[@vladking2377]

Hello. Recently changed the business to CIC mid. I connected everything correctly, but when I connect everything together, I get the impression that the CAN is going crazy, if I turn off the joystick, for example, then everything is fine, or if I turn off the display, then everything is also normal. What is happening with their CAN. Periodically, it goes out completely, and a critical error in the central electronics knocks out. Will your coding work for me on CIC mid and will the coding solve my problem? Thanks in advance for your reply

[@bauticr9962]

Hey bro I bought a car that had cic installed but when I turn the car on the screen turns red for about 15 seconds then black forever. Any idea on how to fix it?! Thank you!!

[@youessay7983]

Hi thanks for the awesome videos, iv e just replaced my e60 motherboard with one from an e90 lci that had pre set buttons when i try it with my faceplate it doesnt work but works perfect with the e90 faceplate. Do you know if theres a way to code my faceplate to the motherboard pls

[@LuisGonzalez-ph8zp]

I followed all your steps I input my 7 digits from my vin it keeps giving me error

[@LuisGonzalez-ph8zp]

how do u replace the donors vin on the ccid with your vehicles vin??

[@LuisGonzalez-ph8zp]

Got one today from a local junk yard 50$

[@MiguelCantos-ti6lq]

Hi i have a cic that is already toast so i got a new CIC unit. What cable should i use to code my new cic unit?

[@madarsjonaitis9796]

Hi i have problems with this USB cable and when i look at this you have linked it only says it fits X5,X6 how can that be? Yesterday i looked and it fitted from E6x to E9x and for newer models aswell? Is it possible you could send some part Numbers from your cable? Because i have spend a lot of money now for cables and usb connectors but it just keeps frying them..

[@jakubschomer9094]

Nice video! Can someone still help me please? When im changing the attributes with ncs expert and the cic restarts, it still got the same values...tried with all profiles and new made profile with correct setting

[@cooler6665]

Hello, You will help with coding e60 2007 year cic and combox BN2000 added and two inputs connected usb in combox

[@Letrotiriderdu81]

Hey ! I don't have the same as you, I don't have the choice of cic, there is CAS, CGATE, CTUNE..... I got this cic on an e90 and I have an e92. I would just like to at least be able to code to have the speakers working, and the gong.... If you can help me that would be great of you!

[@Binbag1010]

I've been looking for a tutorial like this for a long time - thank you my brother. Very well put together - i have no idea how you even worked this out, you obviously have a good understanding of the software. One question - i have purchased custom FSC codes from Mak Coding for my CIC with my VIN coded to them, it is the retrofit pack which activates Navigation, unlocks voice control and enables apps for combox (which i dont yet have). Do i programme these codes via FSTool? Thank you for your help.

[@bmwdiy]

Thanks, you didn’t need to purchase any codes, just follow everything in the video and links in the description, it’s all free 👌

[@Binbag1010]

@@bmwdiy tried all the steps and unfortunately didn't work for me. Still have no navigation or bluetooth.

[@supremo_n55]

hello i got no gps signal can you help please?

[@rickymoran2993]

Are you in LA

[@flippy9133]

does your journey computer work? I bought e87 with CIC retrofitted but the journey computer shows just dashes? might need some moe coding?

[@bmwdiy]

Journey computer works fine, if I input a new destination it will tell me the time and distance I have until I reach the destination. Try updating yours to 2021 maps www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1765354

[@LuisGonzalez-ph8zp]

My NCS expert is not letting me do what your doing is there a reason for this?

[@n.yener95]

Hello . How can I find second hand or cheap NBTs . in which country should I search ?

[@beatsand]

Hello, is it possible to get in touch with you somehow? I have a question related to the CICR_GW module. Thanks in advance

[@Kjellmanjoakim]

Key generator is not availibe. Can you send it to me?

[@user-pf4ql7rw4u]

Hello. Can I do the same in e60?

[@hiltonc.pereiraii2982]

How can I call you? wish to discuss the installation project I want to do in my E60 located in Brazil.

[@richpngu]

When you do the coding for a different car like and e60 or e70 would you still pick e89 or would you pick the one for your respective vehicle

[@bmwdiy]

Pick the one for your respective vehicle

[@adriankavanagh7748]

Great video!!! What's the part numbers fir screen and unit please?

[@bmwdiy]

You can see the part number for the CIC unit at 1:14, there are various part numbers for this. The one I got has the part number 6512 9239214. The "6512" is in the bottom left corner of the sticker. Just type in "e90 CIC head unit" in ebay and look for the one with the latest build date you can find. The build date is right above the the part number and is displayed as week/year so 32/10 for example would be the 32nd week of 2010. As for the screen, the one I got has the part number 65829193745. This is the best version of the screen since it has the clear plastic protective shield which only came on 2009 or 2010 model years.

[@adriankavanagh7748]

Thank you. Just been looking on ebay and some e90 cic units are thinner then the others. Any idea why?

[@Deniz.T.]

Hey mate. I always get an error 'Error when trying to establish connection' whey i hit to connect button in FSTOOL. I did vin change in cic module, i also did to code cic module to the car but i cant get access to establish connection to the car in FSTOOL. Did you ever faced something simillar like that problem ?

[@danielnb3249]

Did you get it to work? I'm having the same issue

[@norby93]

if i have the ccc litle screen business can i do the retrofit?

[@robertsarbinowski7347]

Wich Version of Java did you use?

[@hiltonc.pereiraii2982]

Can you also provide the correct CIC part numbers for my 2009 530i M Package E60?

[@bmwdiy]

All the parts are the same except for the head unit. I put the part numbers in the description. Make sure you get a head unit from late 2009 or early 2010 if you're buying from eBay so it is more likely to have the C1A software. It should say what car the head unit came from in the ebay ad (should be 2009 or 2010 E60). The screen is the same like the one in this video. The only other part you need for the E60 is the trim that goes around the head unit. -> www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-bmw-parts/center-dashboard-trim/51456976361/ The coding is the same.

[@blasmendoza4460]

Hi I watch the video but you lost me, I bought a CIC unit new BMW original and muy navigation don’t work can you help.

[@blasmendoza4460]

Is a e93 M3

[@Random-XP]

All steps followed but getting error: FA - Error COAPI - 2000 : Error in EDIABAS or in SG - description file BIP - 0001 : Too long job - parameter or string - register - access CAS COAPI - 2000 : Error in EDIABAS or in SG - description file FA_READ COAPI - 2000 : Error in EDIABAS or in SG - description file FA_READ : A_E65CAS Ncs expert won't read VO

[@bmwdiy]

Are you getting the 2 black dots in Inpa for the cable detected and the ignition on? If so, then try uninstalling BMW tools and installing again

[@aluxannar]

How to tell before purchasing that the headunit will have C1A software?

[@bmwdiy]

Ask the seller what year was the car the headunit came from. If it is 2011-2013 then most likely to have C1A. You can see on the sticker on the front of the headunit the build date.

[@gaz4145]

Hi mate, your videos are so helpful thank you, I was wondering if you can help with my coding, I copied all the necessary digit's pasted it the bar , clicked write, it comes up with errors and didn't change the numbers to my VIN , I've spent hours trying to figure this out , I've changed my TCU to bn2000 combox, and changed headunit to professional. I have 2010 E90 CIC. Any links would be so appreciated, thanks again Ps I bought the same cable from Amazon, inpa pairs up both black dot's, the software is connected to the car just struggling to write new data. Thanks Gaz in the United Kingdom

[@adriankavanagh7748]

Hi Gaz, did you get sorted ?

[@Jawnwickk]

Is there written instructions anywhere for the navigation coding?

[@bmwdiy]

Watch the video a few times, all the links to the software you need are in the description, which part do you need help with?

[@intenseeye1307]

Why don't the signature check come back successful for me bro ? I can't pass that point

[@intenseeye1307]

ACTIVATE UPGRADE but it still failed signature check, any suggestions? @BMWdiy

[@user-qy2uc9bd1d]

What was the base that u have? CCC Business?

[@bmwdiy]

I had the CCC professional before the upgrade. In North America there was only one version of CCC on E90. If you did not have navigation option then there was no Idrive.

[@user-vy1mo9zh7u]

How u unlock the Navigation?

[@bmwdiy]

Watch the whole video and follow the links in the description.

[@derekdunne3642]

Hi, I changed out my CiC unit on my e92 as it was endlessly rebooting. The new unit works ok but I've no sound. Is this something I can code in? Thanks in advance,

[@bmwdiy]

Watch the whole video

[@derekdunne3642]

@@bmwdiy got the sound working today thanks to your video. Much appreciated with the clear instructions

[@andrejzlatic7499]

Why did you delete the new combox video ?

[@bmwdiy]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWm4lKifjamiqNE

[@Wergrun]

So the CCC control knob works with the new CIC unit?

[@bmwdiy]

Yes, and I actually prefer the CCC control knob for the E93 since it’s much more durable. I met someone with an LCI 2011 E93 that had the CIC controller, he left the top down in the rain and the controller was fried. $400 for a new one. Also if you have the top down in the hot sun it might cause the paint on the CIC controller buttons to easily peel and fade.

[@Wergrun]

@@bmwdiy good to know man , thanks! I have an E91 so only gotta worry about leaving the sunroof open. I was also planning on getting another center trim to fit the new controller but now I know I don’t have to!

[@marco135ferreira7]

Hi, awesome video, I am battling to get the #0910 and 6$6va and $697 to stick Are you perhaps able to remote code for me

[@augustoyep722]

try this instead #0909 and $6va and $697

[@dirtleg13]

Did you ever find a solution? I'm having the same issue.

[@markstapleton1373]

I own an e93 and after seriously want to retro fit CIC I drive to my car. How have you installed the CIC controller onto this system as I cannot find a centre console for the CIC controller with the roof control?

[@bmwdiy]

I actually prefer the CCC controller for the e93 since it is much more durable. The paint on the buttons can peel very easily on the CIC controller especially if you have it parked with the top down in the sun

[@markstapleton1373]

@@bmwdiy thank you for your reply, so does the CCC controller work perfectly fine with the CIC I drive system?

[@bmwdiy]

Yes

[@markstapleton1373]

@@bmwdiy thank you 😊

[@Talal-Melhem]

So all of this can’t be done with protools? Also what did you do to get logic 7?

[@bmwdiy]

Skip to 20:20 where I show the coding. You have to code the CIC to the vehicle order of your car which includes the option for the logic 7 sound.

[@Talal-Melhem]

Can’t find standard tools, but I got mikes easy bmw tools and it has all the same programs in inpa, ncsexpert, ncsdummy etc, but I don’t have the manipulation profile in ncs expert and when I try to start to code like u I don’t get a start button option, I can put the chassis but for the ecu it doesn’t show cas as an option like yours it shows me 7 ecu options in German.. help please I got the head unit and the display and combox installed and only need to code 😅

[@DirtyGarageTx]

Where did you download inpa an the ncs expert

[@bmwdiy]

www.bimmergeeks.net/downloads

[@NickChimed]

I just got a CIC headunit and screen, is it really necessary to get the USB connector for it to work?

[@bmwdiy]

You need the USB port in the glovebox to be able to activate the Navigation feature using the process that I outline and to update it to the latest maps. You also need it if you want to upload mp3 music files to the hard drive.

[@NickChimed]

@@bmwdiythank you so much! Got my cic coded and everything’s working. Next steps is finding a combox and following ur video

[@Jawnwickk]

What works if it’s not coded?

[@bmwdiy]

Maybe the sound only if you are lucky enough to have the the same sound system option as the car it came from. But the coding is easy if you follow my guide and the software is free.

[@zitexjp1296]

May I Know how to activate the voice control ? And My E93 M3 Already is CIC system but without the bluetooth option. Can you tell me how to add it to my car ? Also where to find the map Thanks

[@bmwdiy]

Do you have the voice control button on the steering wheel? Also, do you have the TCU unit? You can check in the trunk underneath the carpet behind the top hydraulic fluid. If you have the TCU, you can code in Bluetooth by adding $639 to you vehicle order and then coding that to the CIC with Ncsexpert. You can also upgrade to the Combox instead of the TCU so you can get Bluetooth Audio in addition to Bluetooth for calling. To code the voice control, you need to add the FSC code for voice control to your car with FSTool like I show you in the video at 36:42. The coding template is 17. You also need to make sure you have $620 in your vehicle order. Here is a link to the map data with instructions www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1765354 You can get the activation code for the map data from the key generator like I show you in the video at 43:15

[@zitexjp1296]

@@bmwdiy Thanks for your reply I have the voice control button on the steering wheel, I got a device installed below the normal combox install location but I'm not sure is it called TCU unit. If I want upgrade to Combox how to get this unit and I leave in Hong Kong. So, did you know where can download the Map data ? What is $620 ? Sorry I not a expert in car programming

[@bmwdiy]

Watch the whole video to see how to do the coding, the coding part starts at 19:14. You can download the coding software here www.bimmergeeks.net/downloads its free and it gives you instructions. At 21:55 I show you how to read the vehicle order or option list of the car with NCSexpert, you can see I have $620 on the list since the car came with voice control. Here is a link to the map data with instructions www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1765354 You can get the activation code for the map data from the key generator like I show you in the video at 43:15. Here is a link for the key generator and instructions www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1461515 I will show you how to install the Combox in my next video so stay tuned. You can find the Combox on eBay, but make sure the ad says it's for E90 to E93, you can tell since it will say Combox BN2000 on it and the connection on the bottom will be black. You will also need an adaptor for your TCU wiring harness to the Combox which you can get here www.ebay.com/itm/324876254004?hash=item4ba4223b34:g:VfoAAOSwwCNhyOem

[@zitexjp1296]

@@bmwdiy Thanks for your reply. I waiting for your new video for combox installation.

[@bmwdiy]

@@zitexjp1296 kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWm4lKifjamiqNE

[@davispaul82]

Is anyone else experiencing the same issue I am in regards to inserting the certificates in the first field? When I select any of the templates, the certificate path does not change at all and remains at (.\data\cert\fscs-cert.der). The log also states (unknown source). Literally this is the only thing holding me back at the moment. Thanks in advance.

[@Evominati6434]

Same for me did you manage to get it sorted?

[@davispaul82]

@@Evominati6434 yes I did, follow the instructions as if those were inputted correctly and in the next steps, thats were you would enter that information.

[@davispaul82]

@@Evominati6434 did you get it to work?

[@robertsarbinowski7347]

How you unlocked the Navigation?

[@bmwdiy]

Watch the whole video and use the links in the description.

[@robertsarbinowski7347]

@@bmwdiy i follow your instructions step by step, but with fstool2 i have errors and dont wanna works :(

[@Albertt.c]

how did u re activated Navi menu?

[@bmwdiy]

Watch the whole video

[@Albertt.c]

@@bmwdiybasically Navigation menu is related to FSC?

[@bmwdiy]

@@Albertt.c Yes, you have to apply the FSC codes to unlock Navigation, the ability to update the Navigation maps via USB, and Voice Control. All the links to the software you need are in the description.

[@Albertt.c]

@@bmwdiy oh, thanks! I want to do all this thing on a CIC mid. I bought it for my work as im doing a BMW simrig will all the modules like cas, jbe, cluster etc. and my Navigation menu got locked. I want to unlock everything 😅

[@davispaul82]

Does your volume knob work?

[@bmwdiy]

Yes

[@davispaul82]

@@bmwdiy My fs-tools does not seen establish connection for some reason. its version v2.0.1. possibility you can send me your version?

[@bmwdiy]

mega.nz/file/8kB3mThQ#oxUOsUqD-nBOLcfZc00GlA8pvxpFcfaY_7On2-3U27U Make sure you also have Java working

[@davispaul82]

@@bmwdiy Youre the best. which Java were you using. I had 1.5.0_22 installed but its so small you can hardly see whats on the screen,lol. Im also using a surface laptop as well.

[@bmwdiy]

@@davispaul82 Hit the thumbs up button 👍

[@LuisGonzalez-ph8zp]

like im confused on your video your not very clear on how to input your vin all you say is i already did that ok how did you input your vin in to the cic unit your video is not fully clear on that part

[@dawiskid187]

This coding is the same on a e60? Should I read the VO as a e90?

[@elie.skaf123]

keep posting such videos 🌷🌹do u have a group on WhatsApp or telegram?🙏

[@billyjb8985]

HELP! Can't get past red screen (06 E90 335XI CIC retrofit. Parts bought on eBay-ITEM #s: 145336039841 155818230891 145336001574)

[@amirkhalailov8115]

Do you have email I want to ask you something about project I Wana do with bmw e93 320i to m3 you can help me