BMW F87 M2 Competition on the Dyno

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Evolve Automotive

Evolve Automotive

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks to MMR Performance for lending us their M2 Competition Demo car for Eventuri Development.
As part of the Eventuri development the M2 Competition is run on the dyno, stock and with various prototypes. We took the chance to give you a look at the M2 Competition and what power it is making stock, along with comparing it to its S55 sharing brother the F8x M3/M4, and the standard M2 with the N55 engine, in stock and Stage 1 tuned form.
**The video shows a prototype Eventuri system fitted, but the runs were done with stock airboxes. The car is also fitted with Bilstein Clubsport suspension and MMR DCT Paddles.
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@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
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@dmitryp8617
@dmitryp8617 5 жыл бұрын
Nice and useful info! many thanks... M2 CP looks like great choice in one year time or next summer get one "used" with 20-25% off and 2-3 t miles
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
@@dmitryp8617 yes absolutely will be very good value
@PeakPerformanceReviews
@PeakPerformanceReviews 5 жыл бұрын
Evolve Automotive no problem guys :-)
@RobbieR987
@RobbieR987 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Evolve Automotive it would be great to see the M2CS Dyno Vs. that M2 Comp graph to see what the CS really makes. Seems to be a lot more punchy than stated.
@NightH4wk12
@NightH4wk12 5 жыл бұрын
i really love that you guys are putting out objective informative videos rather than speculation or subjection. Awesome channel
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks appreciate the comment 🙏
@NeilMagill
@NeilMagill 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being so quick at getting this video up... Can't wait to the video of it tuned... :)
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
We'll see if we can get it back once it's tuned! MMR will be doing that with their own software.
@michaeltempler9373
@michaeltempler9373 5 жыл бұрын
Nice. Keep em coming! Really interesting, informative videos. Thank you!
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers! We have weekly uploads so subscribe and turn on notifications 😁
@longbowdt
@longbowdt 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comparison video. These cars are amazing. Subscribed, with notifications on.
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching ✌️
@stubones
@stubones 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Imran, thank you. There have been mentions of this new M2 making up to 450hp so I was surprised at your result even yours is actually a realistic number close to the quoted figure. cheers.
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stu. Not sure where that figure comes from. Mostly likely a DynoJet figure as they read high.
@dennis.r1064
@dennis.r1064 5 жыл бұрын
Feel like I’m cheating on my golf R when I watch these vids 😂
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure she doesn't mind lol
@dennis.r1064
@dennis.r1064 5 жыл бұрын
Evolve Automotive 🤦🏽‍♂️😂
@Lucidity108
@Lucidity108 5 жыл бұрын
Same lol, I'm looking at the M2 to replace my R someday..maybe..I don't want to move on!
@dennis.r1064
@dennis.r1064 5 жыл бұрын
Brian Curry lol I’m sure it’s not Normal too feel this way about cars 🤦🏽‍♂️😂
@TheDudeAbides1776
@TheDudeAbides1776 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like I'm cheating on my M4...
@JuanLega
@JuanLega 5 жыл бұрын
Man, very informative and interesting video. Keep them coming.
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Juan! Lots more planned
@ss63amg
@ss63amg 5 жыл бұрын
Epic video, direct informative and spot on. Thanks man.
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers Sami
@davidweru3134
@davidweru3134 5 жыл бұрын
2:18 love how you synced the the car locking in with the music
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Matt's got skills
@osmiumtank
@osmiumtank 5 жыл бұрын
Soundtrack is on point. Nice job! 👍
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@InitialD604
@InitialD604 5 жыл бұрын
Always sweet vids from Evolve. Gotta drop by and check out the shop if I’m ever in the UK!
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Always welcome
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 5 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video guys, I was told by an owner in the US his M2C was pushing out just over 440bhp, I took that as gospal and used those figures in my review. Since I've been hearing exactly what you discovered. Looking forward to getting mine, hopefully unlock that initial power restriction asap. Cheers and keep up the good work!
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joe. The issue with the US is that they use Dynojet machines over there and they read higher than most other dynos. Usually by about 11-15% which would explain the 44-450 BHP figure they are talking about. Enjoyed your video too. We need to collaborate on one :-)
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 5 жыл бұрын
Ahh that makes perfect sense! I know now haha :-)
@stinger15au
@stinger15au 5 жыл бұрын
yeh there is NOWAY they are making 440hp in reality lol. They would be running 120+mph trap speeds. No chance
@Daniel-dg3np
@Daniel-dg3np 5 жыл бұрын
US dyno always read about 8 to 10% higher than in Australia/UK. It seems to be a calibration and equipment issue that is accepted over there. Hence the dynojet comment above. The issue is so consistent that we call it "American hp" when discussing tuned or dynoed cars. A very well known issue in the Evo, Subaru, Skyline communities.
@shanescarlife
@shanescarlife 5 жыл бұрын
Could it be that his M2C had an aftermarket tune on it? Here in Canada, the M4C is listed at 444bhp, and since both cars use the S55 engine, i dont imagine it would be too difficult to get the M2C up to 440
@thesunofodin
@thesunofodin 5 жыл бұрын
Great info! I love this channel!
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers man!
@1HappyBob
@1HappyBob 5 жыл бұрын
Please make your M2C review loooooong! Love your work 👍
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will try and give a good run down of it ✌️
@applebitefool
@applebitefool 5 жыл бұрын
So basically the M2 competition will easily make 800+hp with bolt ons and a big turbo, absolute beast car.
@user-sn5kj1gy1t
@user-sn5kj1gy1t 3 жыл бұрын
Same with m3/m4
@golfnut69
@golfnut69 5 жыл бұрын
Cracking comparison! Thanks
@delusive86
@delusive86 5 жыл бұрын
Really interesting to see the comparisons side by side.
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers Shane 👍
@AM4N18
@AM4N18 5 жыл бұрын
Really nice cinematography guys from 0:50. Really liked this video. I asked my local garage for a test drive, but no cars to test drive. They'll happily take my money for an order though!
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Some dealers have demo cars so try and find one that has.
@Gentlemen_london_
@Gentlemen_london_ 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative as always. 👌🎩
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. ✌️
@Gardus82
@Gardus82 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis! I've got a customer with a brand new competition, I've just shared this with him. The Eventuri intake will be very interesting along with a remap and downpipes.
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers Roberto!
@Gardus82
@Gardus82 5 жыл бұрын
See you in a few days in LV
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
@@Gardus82 yes! Message me regarding the address for our display villa 👌
@mariodiniz21
@mariodiniz21 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video and explanations
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@robertolombardi3698
@robertolombardi3698 5 жыл бұрын
410 bhp as I like to round off that figure is usable power and more than enough for some people. I would happily settle for a stage 1 on the Competition. I have ordered mine by the way for March delivery. keep up the great work Imran.
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Stage 1 would be more than enough
@ortegamats
@ortegamats 5 жыл бұрын
Great analysis, shared! Would be great to see M2 competition dyno graph with m3/m4 CS and GTS mapping
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
We will do that as soon as the opportunity arises.
@zaverdi5986
@zaverdi5986 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice video...keep doing!
@ChrisCupples
@ChrisCupples 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic vid very interesting 👍
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers !
@shabanaarshad5757
@shabanaarshad5757 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video 😬
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
😁😁😁
@chrissharman9169
@chrissharman9169 5 жыл бұрын
Really interesting vid guys. Had my stock RS3 on the Dyno over the weekend and it done 406BHP and 412lbs/ft torque. Love the M2 Comp. As you say. Heavily de tuned by BMW not to tread on the M3 and M4’s toes.👍👍
@setperspective
@setperspective 5 жыл бұрын
Love the channel Imran
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve. ✌️
@alpacino01
@alpacino01 5 жыл бұрын
Nice and clear! Thanks
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers ✌️
@kseries27
@kseries27 5 жыл бұрын
Great video
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@blairmcconachie
@blairmcconachie 5 жыл бұрын
I like you videos, very informative. Could you start mentioning what the cars make at the wheels, and also driveline losses in the videos, it all helps add to the picture. Thanks.
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Dynos are only good for comparisons. Manufacturer quote crank figures so to save confusing people that's what we use.
@PeakPerformanceReviews
@PeakPerformanceReviews 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video guys 👌
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ibeyhuss111
@ibeyhuss111 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, when is the next F56 Video coming out?!
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ibrahim. F56 video coming in 2 weeks with the Eventuri install.
@keenanwilliams3902
@keenanwilliams3902 5 жыл бұрын
U make a great teacher 👊🏾😎
@kenrossaukrsa
@kenrossaukrsa 5 жыл бұрын
What a classy workshop ,equally classy videography’s and productions. Just Take my money! 😆
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy them. :-) Always happy to accept currency.
@kenrossaukrsa
@kenrossaukrsa 5 жыл бұрын
(Do you accept Wirral Pounds£ ? Lol)
@C3Motorsport
@C3Motorsport 5 жыл бұрын
The kidneys on the new M2C have always been very off-putting to me as an '18 LCi owner...but seeing these on a black M2C for the first time has really changed my mind. The car looks AMAZING in Black Sapphire Metallic! Great vid guys!
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Black always helps! Glad you're enjoying the video. Check out some of our other ones
@GajenComedy
@GajenComedy 5 жыл бұрын
good video! especially the comparison between similar models. not a lot of people upload dyno contents.
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! We thought it would make for some interesting content. 👍
@GajenComedy
@GajenComedy 5 жыл бұрын
@@EvolveAutomotive can you all make a similar video for Lotus Evora 400, GT410 and GT430? curious to see how these stack up against the M2 comp
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
We'd need to get all those cars in to dyno. Where the graphs shown for the other cars are customer cars we have tuned in the past. Being a BMW specialist we have a huge backlog of dyno data for most models, but very little non BMW.
@GajenComedy
@GajenComedy 5 жыл бұрын
@@EvolveAutomotive my bad, just saw your channel, didnt know you guys are a bmw specialist. good video anyway :)
@stuff4177
@stuff4177 5 жыл бұрын
really good video thank you
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
@i_read_bad_reviews
@i_read_bad_reviews 5 жыл бұрын
Cinematic are excellent
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@gtr485
@gtr485 2 ай бұрын
Good to know.
@AulitzkyTuningGmbH
@AulitzkyTuningGmbH 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome 😎
@karlalliban2264
@karlalliban2264 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have my M2C in order for next year. I’m in two minds to get it mapped so soon as I’m aware it could void the warranty. If I were to get it remapped would you advise making any other changes to the car so the extra power doesn’t put any unnecessary stress on OEM parts such as suspension, etc? Cheers.
@Californification
@Californification 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting note about the traction in the earlier S55's. I have a 2016 S55 (F80 M3) and that is exactly the reason I have not updated to the latest ILevel version for the S55. The newer mapping feels too tame and I love the violent feeling I have in my car right now :) That said, awesome video guys. Am considering the M2C as a possible replacement for the F80 in 2 years but I just can't get over how much better the M3 looks :) Cheers.
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
The M2 is more fun in our opinion but every one likes different things. And thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video
@mattspies
@mattspies 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and comparison, and that’s why I have a stage 2 on my M2 LCI..... enough power with the best sounding engine !! Reliability on the N55 is awesome and strong with the S55 intervals !! S55 is a tuners dream and fantastic as well. Just unsure if after a tune the chassis will endure a currently wonderful drive. :)
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Yes the sound is great. There maybe a point where the power gets too much for the wonderful chassis and the amount of grip available from the rear as it is not possible to fit much wider tyres on the M2 like you can on the M3./4.
@Mr169paul
@Mr169paul 5 жыл бұрын
I have 453bhp on original m2 and in anything but perfect conditions it can't be driven hard
@mattspies
@mattspies 5 жыл бұрын
paul williams what mods and fuel for to get that power?
@Mr169paul
@Mr169paul 5 жыл бұрын
Wagner 200cell M performance exaust Csf intercooler Dv+ Ftp charge,boost ,inlet pipes X extreme di hpfp Ngk laser plugs Afe panel filter Custom remap Gts dct tune Its run on shell V power 99ron It would of been over 460 but I was having throttle cut off due to traction but it got 550ft lb of tourqe
@delboy2596
@delboy2596 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting video.
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers Del
@rayhuckle
@rayhuckle 5 жыл бұрын
Black m2 comp😍
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
It's a beautiful car
@pyton75
@pyton75 5 жыл бұрын
Will be nice to put the m2 comp on the ramp and see any other modifications that they made to the car .
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
We will try and do that
@MrDoctorm3
@MrDoctorm3 5 жыл бұрын
thank you for that comprehensive dyno...No one has talked about lap times of this m2 competition i bet this car is more capable and far more potent than the m3-m4 competition around the ring... what are your thoughts???
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
We own a M3 Comp. For sure the M2 is more fun and wouldn't be surprised if it can lap quicker.
@shiv135
@shiv135 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, curious to know what the stock N55 engine makes on the dyno?
@HiDefSymphony
@HiDefSymphony 6 ай бұрын
Please tell me where you got that spoiler for the OG M2! That's exactly the size and profile I'm looking for to go on mine and I'm either finding bigger tail lips or massive picnic table spoilers!
@naumi_ali
@naumi_ali 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Imran, any experience on what F85 X5M are making from stock on the dynos, I have heard big fluctuations?
@imperatormouse2735
@imperatormouse2735 3 жыл бұрын
Good comparison between the S55s. Since I am very much interested in the durability of the powertrain I wonder how easy it is to unrestrict the stock M2C so you get to the power level of the stock M4C? As far as I understood it is only the 5000+ rpm area to be modified.
@markwhite6719
@markwhite6719 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe better of with the n55 as the crankhub on s55 is problematic correct? Or did bmw fix the problem with the m2 comp?
@paulelliott3056
@paulelliott3056 5 жыл бұрын
Love the video guys, thanks. A question you might be able to answer; if it produced 409HP at the wheels, does that mean the engine HP is higher? Thanks in advance.
@marcozuniga1186
@marcozuniga1186 3 жыл бұрын
To the wheels means that the engine hp alone is higher since it has to go through flywheel or transmission and other losses. Usually like a little over 5ish % loss from crank to the wheels
@telmonunes6105
@telmonunes6105 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video , thanks for the info! That is coilover or springs mounted ? what´s your feedback ? Thanks
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
The M2C has Bilstein Club Sport. Haven't driven the car properly yet will do tomorrow
@ribbles1699
@ribbles1699 5 жыл бұрын
One enthusiastic thumbs up. So does the dyno you used read close to what the crank horsepower would be?
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
It reads wheels then calculates crank. It's more important to focus on the comparisons between the cars
@m2comp369
@m2comp369 5 жыл бұрын
Please confirm that these are numbers at the wheels - correct? In Aus, the figure by BMW quoted is around 410 HP, but that's at the flywheel. So allowing for drivetrain losses the car would be making around 450 HP (around 330-340) at the flywheel??
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Flywheel figures
@carculture2960
@carculture2960 5 жыл бұрын
🔥
@BIMMERHEAD
@BIMMERHEAD 4 жыл бұрын
BMW Power 🔥🔥🔥
@LA-od7jw
@LA-od7jw 5 жыл бұрын
Will you guys bring out an exhaust for the m2 competition, I currently have the car but it’s so quiet compared to my bros m4
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
It's definitely something we can look in to after we launch our M3/M4 system.
@VijayGanesh166
@VijayGanesh166 5 жыл бұрын
Are the dyno numbers shown corrected to show crank numbers? If so what kinda numbers can be expected at the wheels?
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Yes calculated crank figures. Take around 12% off for wheel power
@gianton33
@gianton33 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a comparison between the S55 of the M2 and the B58 engine
@cmorales2831
@cmorales2831 5 жыл бұрын
Giannis Antonopoulos b58 sounds waaaaaaaay better
@gianton33
@gianton33 5 жыл бұрын
@@cmorales2831 For sure! I'm talking about horsepower and torque figures
@Gambantein
@Gambantein 5 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to get an M4 Competition or GTS map in a M2 Competition?
@oceancity5776
@oceancity5776 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative. What does the Butt dyno tell you?
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
I'm yet to drive it properly, filming an initial impressions review/comparison video tomorrow, look out for that in the future for my thoughts on how it behaves on the road.
@EastWood2004
@EastWood2004 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job though I wonder why you didn't place a fan in front of the car. I thought you would need it to cool down the engine and turbo?
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 4 жыл бұрын
It is in front of the car but out of the picture. We wouldn't run a car without one.
@zemekiel
@zemekiel 5 жыл бұрын
That's very interesting. Is the difference between the M2 Comp and M3 purely tuning, are there no differences in hardware at all? Turbos, piping, intake etc?
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
The air intake path is also restricted before the airbox, so I'd expect with identical maps that the M2C would make less power.
@gaivoron
@gaivoron 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Do you have any thoughts on the new Supra? It's my understanding that it has N55 engine, detuned to 335hp. Is that correct.
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
That’s incorrect, it will have the B58 from Z4 M40i. Looks wise we’ll reserve our judgement until we see it in person. In theory it should drive similar to the Z4, which initial impressions have been positive of. Looking forward to driving either/both!
@gaivoron
@gaivoron 5 жыл бұрын
Evolve Automotive oh so it’s the upgrade from n55. B58 got twin scroll. Good to know. Thanks.
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
From our experience so far it means it should be VERY tuneable.
@gaivoron
@gaivoron 5 жыл бұрын
@@EvolveAutomotive can't wait what will be achieved!
@ChrisMartin1287
@ChrisMartin1287 5 жыл бұрын
What are the wheels on the tuned M2? And were they modified with that color flash? Same for the front lip. Thanks in advance.
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
The wheels are 6Sixty Emblem's, we had them custom painted with the orange spoke but as all the wheels are custom this can be ordered. Front lip is RKP and was also painted orange. That M2 is our project car Starla, you can find more info on our playlist of videos about the car or on instagram.com/StarlaM2
@DiscoR53
@DiscoR53 5 жыл бұрын
What year did BMW turn down the torque? I like the idea of having more that you need some times it can come in useful.
@Peanutdenver
@Peanutdenver 5 жыл бұрын
I believe they changed the curve when they released 2017 Comp version of the M3/4. But, the cars produced more power and consistently in the mid to upper rev range. Hope that makes sense to ya.
@fastanfun
@fastanfun 5 жыл бұрын
I have seen many videos on youtube, which shows m2 comp not really fast on straight as it should be. Also mentioned the air flow for cooling is the problem on m2 comp., less air flows through front facia on m2 comp. than regular m4. whay do you think the straight line performance different that much? once m2 comp. tuned to original m4 software (theoretically) would it be perform equla as the m4? thank you
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Stock the M2C has a much worse intake design as they blocked the grille fresh air scoops. This will have an effect on the power it can make, especially once the engine is hot. The M2C also weighs slightly more than the M4, so that’s a consideration also.
@fastanfun
@fastanfun 5 жыл бұрын
thank you for your quick reply. if the only restriction is the grille fresh air scoops, what is your solution for that? other than this issue, only difference between m4 comp vs m2 comp is the software, is that correct? @@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
The Eventuri intake was designed so no modification was required to the car itself and has closed ducts to keep the engine bay heat out. You could modify the panel cutting the openings open to allow more fresh air in to the Intakes. In theory it would be similar yes. If both cars had OPFs.
@mikescott4008
@mikescott4008 5 жыл бұрын
Did BMW offer a map change on the early M4s to remove the spikey torque that gave traction issue? Looking at a AUC 64 plate M4, but more likely to go 66 plate M2.
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Yes they did software updates later to address this
@mikescott4008
@mikescott4008 5 жыл бұрын
Evolve Automotive thank you. Prefer luxury appeal of M4, but had on heart M2 better size and looks better to replace my 135i.
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikescott4008 we have both and M2 is so much more fun to drive ✌️
@reidn010
@reidn010 5 жыл бұрын
I personally think the N55 in the previous car is a much deeper sounding engine, there's more of a V12 like sound to it. The M2 comp looks aggressive though.
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
It does sound better for sure
@cw205mi16
@cw205mi16 5 жыл бұрын
How does a regular M2 with remap fayre against the stock M2 Comp?
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
You can find out in this video 😉 Driving the M2 Competition - Initial Impressions kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXTUg4tvpZKdaKs
@adamkelsall3942
@adamkelsall3942 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video thank you. The M2CS seems to have the M3/M4 S55 calibration to give it the full 450bhp. Can this tune be applied to an M2 Competition? I think this would be the sweet spot for UK roads. It bugs me that above 5000rpm the M2 competitions performance flat lines when you want to wring it out. Cheers 👍🏻
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that tune would be no problem. We have done ‘stock’ M3 tunes on M2C’s before for people that don’t want to go all the way to a Stage 1 tune.
@adamkelsall3942
@adamkelsall3942 3 жыл бұрын
@@EvolveAutomotive I’ll bear this in mind thanks very much 👍🏻
@ryankoval9163
@ryankoval9163 5 жыл бұрын
What was the tune that was used on the old m2? And could you let me know how to get it?
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
The tune we show is our own, we can flash it remotely using our Evolve-R cable, or you can come to us to have it loaded.
@batebee
@batebee 5 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant video and also intresting, would you say there's a massive difference in Competion / CP to the standard M2 to drive. Also saves me looking through your Archive , what is the average BPH of a stage 1 on a 15 plate M4 , Also does the stage 1 sort the skittish feel out at all, the way its tuned ??
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Going to drive the competition tomorrow and make a video with my views. 2015 on old software would make around 425 bhp stock. Our map would bring in power like the competition Pack M4.
@batebee
@batebee 5 жыл бұрын
sorry , so are you saying it would take the 15 plate M4 up to about 450 bhp with a stage 1 or am wrong ??
@kktorado
@kktorado 11 ай бұрын
Is that to the wheels or to the crank?
@setperspective
@setperspective 5 жыл бұрын
Recently purchased a f80 m3 in the Americas. Can I buy the eventuri intake here? Sorry for my poor American grammar. I was brought here when I was 12 , so my proper english isn’t the greatest. Does your website convert pounds to USD upon purchase mate. Also I’m looking for rims and tyres in the future. I’m am most interested in the collection you supply for your own project cars . By the way , love the channel and the new news uploads for BMW’s
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Hey. Yes of course you can buy from our US website. www.evolvetuning.us If you need help with anything email sales@evolveautomotive.com 👍 We are getting good feedback on the channel so we'll keep making content
@setperspective
@setperspective 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Imran.
@fazer12779
@fazer12779 5 жыл бұрын
Imran, what’s the potential max power of the N54 335i?
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Depends on your budget!
@NikodemSkibicki
@NikodemSkibicki 5 жыл бұрын
Evolve Automotive best reply ever 😂❤️
@tighematthew
@tighematthew 5 жыл бұрын
Over 700 if you got coin $$$$$$$$$
@sidpandya6827
@sidpandya6827 5 жыл бұрын
would a tune be able to go around the restrictions?
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Yes 😁
@NoToBigBro
@NoToBigBro 5 жыл бұрын
409hp at the wheels or estimated at the crank?
@jostrander71
@jostrander71 4 жыл бұрын
Wheels, BMW has been under rating hp numbers quite a bit recently. BMW M4's dyno 430 at the wheels stock.
@R53.charlie
@R53.charlie 4 жыл бұрын
Jack Ostrander at the crank mate, the other guy is wrong, only the b58’s make that much more than they’re said
@tighematthew
@tighematthew 5 жыл бұрын
I'm making that power in my e92 n54 407 bhp with stock turbos and just fbos. 😀..... and yes I have the dyno print outs
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Yes very easy to get that power from the N54 when you tune it. This S55 will do even more with just a simple tune.
@tighematthew
@tighematthew 5 жыл бұрын
@@EvolveAutomotive yeah still not bad for 11year old car 😁
@marioskardambikis8480
@marioskardambikis8480 5 жыл бұрын
Wheel horse power it is??
@pyton75
@pyton75 5 жыл бұрын
So , will you have a M2 comp in your collection?
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Have no plans too. Would rather drop a S55 into our M2 if we wanted to go that route. The competition is not special enough to warrant the change.
@rhodybimmers8094
@rhodybimmers8094 4 жыл бұрын
How much hp is that at wheel
@robertolombardi3698
@robertolombardi3698 5 жыл бұрын
I may have missed something Imran, what horse power gains will be made on a stage 1 map for the competition?
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Around 500 bhp
@robertolombardi3698
@robertolombardi3698 5 жыл бұрын
@@EvolveAutomotiveWOW! 500 BHP, a stage 1 on the N55 engine only gained 40 BHP. So is it purely that the two engines are totally different? and that you can gain better power gains from the S55?
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
@@robertolombardi3698 the S55 is from the M4 so can easily make this power
@robertolombardi3698
@robertolombardi3698 5 жыл бұрын
@@EvolveAutomotive Nice one Imran, something I will be doing to my M2 Competition when I take delivery of it next year. Does the engine need to be run in first?
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, we always advise bare minimum of the running in service being carried out before any warranty voiding modifications. But generally we like to get a few thousand miles on the cars to find any manufacturing issues etc that would require a warranty claim.
@chicken4967
@chicken4967 5 жыл бұрын
Whats up with the camber at the rear? Is that stock?
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
No, the car has been significantly lowered.
@RaymondLo84
@RaymondLo84 5 жыл бұрын
So M2 N55 is amazing for the value?
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Yes they are great value
@MarkCalica
@MarkCalica 5 жыл бұрын
Man, I'd like to get an M2 N55 though
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
The N55 sounds amazing in comparison. Both great cars though
@dtcusa4427
@dtcusa4427 5 жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@YakuzaJZ
@YakuzaJZ 5 жыл бұрын
Would be great to know the actual wheel HP
@Peanutdenver
@Peanutdenver 5 жыл бұрын
It's usually 10-12% for drive train losses(on a rear wheel driver car), so that's 49 hp. Which is 360 rwhp. Someone can correct me if i'm off the mark.
@floridamaddogg
@floridamaddogg 5 жыл бұрын
Finally a video with good results and comparisons. I keep hearing M2C making 450whp and I've always called BS on that. I saw your comment that US uses Dynojet dynos, but the way BMW has been going for awhile is their advertised BHP is their WHP. Even Dinan dynoed N55 M2 and got 360 whp, but 404 torque.
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
We have seen that too but not with this car. On our dyno F10 M5 and F90 M5 both make more than BMW quote at the crank. DYNO jet reads about 11-15% higher than most other dynos.
@phantom2k10
@phantom2k10 5 жыл бұрын
doesn't the regular m2 have the same b58 engine as the 140 and 240?
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
No
@stinger15au
@stinger15au 5 жыл бұрын
the regular M2 has a modified N55 engine
@HariHaranAngloSaxon
@HariHaranAngloSaxon 5 жыл бұрын
Fucking Beauty.
@plorwax
@plorwax 5 жыл бұрын
You guys don't strap your cars when doing dyno runs?
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Of course we do.
@k9jsb224
@k9jsb224 5 жыл бұрын
Can we have a video on your M2 Competition remap? Including if this is the same as the M3/M4 remap and any differences etc etc 💯💯💯 *#EvolveFTW*
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
This is something we plan to do when we have an M2C in, will be interesting to see what the same map as the F8x M3/M4 does, whether there are any hardware restrictions limiting power, we believe there is on the inlet side.
@k9jsb224
@k9jsb224 5 жыл бұрын
Evolve Automotive Id be happy to have my M2C filmed for a free Evolve ECU Remap 🥳
@paullevin9760
@paullevin9760 5 жыл бұрын
How are you making so much power out of the n55 engine? I have the same engine in my 435I can I make that much power as well?
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
@@paullevin9760 yes with the right FMIC, DP and tune you can .
@tobyb8275
@tobyb8275 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video but what’s with all the people hiding behind the skip??😂😂😂
@EvolveAutomotive
@EvolveAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
We did advise them to move or they would be KZbin famous 🤣
@vivohuali2317
@vivohuali2317 5 жыл бұрын
Hello
@scottishcarnuts65
@scottishcarnuts65 5 жыл бұрын
What year does the PPF get put into the M4 competition package
@NigelPurvis
@NigelPurvis 5 жыл бұрын
Think it was any M4 ordered after May18.. Maybe...
@scottishcarnuts65
@scottishcarnuts65 5 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks, do you know where the PPF is located in the car ?
@NigelPurvis
@NigelPurvis 5 жыл бұрын
It gets added on to where the 2nd cats are. The rear backbox is bigger to try and reverse the quietening effect of the extra restriction.
@scottishcarnuts65
@scottishcarnuts65 5 жыл бұрын
@@NigelPurvis Thanks. Mines is an 18plate. Collected it in June this year. I'm guessing it has one. This is my first M4. My last m car was an M2 with the n55 . It was tuned quite a bit. Sounds amazing too. Anyway , I'm taking it to a garage tomorrow and taking out the centre resonator box and putting straight pipes into it. Should make a difference, hopefully 😉
@NigelPurvis
@NigelPurvis 5 жыл бұрын
@@scottishcarnuts65 I think you'll have avoided it... Just! Get your exhaust guys to have a look at the downpipes and if there are 2 o2 sensors and 2 other pipes connected to a sensor, it has the opf.
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