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BOXING LEGENDS

3 жыл бұрын

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Muhammad Ali and Cus D'Amato discuss boxing srategies before the fight of the century.
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In March 1966, Ali refused to be inducted into the armed forces. He was systematically denied a boxing license in every state and stripped of his passport. As a result, he did not fight from March 1967 to October 1970-from ages 25 to almost 29-as his case worked its way through the appeals process before his conviction was overturned in 1971. During this time of inactivity, as opposition to the Vietnam War began to grow and Ali's stance gained sympathy, he spoke at colleges across the nation, criticizing the Vietnam War and advocating African-American pride and racial justice.Return to prizefighting On August 11, 1970, with his case still in appeal, Ali was granted a license to box by the City of Atlanta Athletic Commission. Leroy Johnson, Jesse Hill Jr. and Harry Pett had used their local political influence and set up the company House of Sports to organize the fight, underlining the influence power of Georgia's black politics in Ali' s comeback.Ali's first return bout was against Jerry Quarry on October 26, resulting in a win after three rounds after Quarry was cut.A month earlier, a victory in federal court forced the New York State Boxing Commission to reinstate Ali's license.He fought Oscar Bonavena at Madison Square Garden in December, an uninspired performance that ended in a dramatic technical knockout of Bonavena in the 15th round. The win left Ali as a top contender against heavyweight champion Joe Frazier. First fight against Joe Frazier Fight of the Century Ali and Frazier's first fight, held at the Garden on March 8, 1971, was nicknamed the "Fight of the Century", due to the tremendous excitement surrounding a bout between two undefeated fighters, each with a legitimate claim to be heavyweight champion. Veteran boxing writer John Condon called it "the greatest event I've ever worked on in my life." The bout was broadcast to 35 foreign countries; promoters granted 760 press passes.
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@BOXINGLEGENDS
@BOXINGLEGENDS 3 жыл бұрын
🥊 Thank You For Watching 🥊 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYrHdJdqpN9riqc
@legendarymoviescenes1926
@legendarymoviescenes1926 3 жыл бұрын
Listening to these two talk is better than listening to almost any dialogue other in history. Ali has the best charisma and Cus knows more than anyone else. Beautiful.
@yusufrahman6341
@yusufrahman6341 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was great to listen to that bald guy really knew Ali and, he really knows the fight game too.
@gbrown4x4
@gbrown4x4 Жыл бұрын
You got that right !!!! I've seen this numerous times in the past & i'm STILL watching !!!! LOLOLOL
@clevelandwilliams5922
@clevelandwilliams5922 Жыл бұрын
@@gbrown4x4 it never gets old.
@KD400_
@KD400_ 4 ай бұрын
Boys need these types of men in their lives
@ryanmills6003
@ryanmills6003 3 жыл бұрын
Ali: He's not that good Cus: Yes he is
@bluecornerboxing6091
@bluecornerboxing6091 7 ай бұрын
“If I had a lower IQ, I could enjoy your conversation” 😂😂😂 🥊
@EdahsWolb4855
@EdahsWolb4855 3 жыл бұрын
It's refreshing to just see them disagree and still respect one another....Cus was one of a kind as well as Ali
@yusufrahman6341
@yusufrahman6341 2 жыл бұрын
They disagreed but in most cases, Cus D’Amato was right in his assessment of Alis's chances, of beating Joe Fraizer in their first fight.
@HIDDENDISCIPLEx7304
@HIDDENDISCIPLEx7304 Жыл бұрын
time was just different around this time no video games no cell phones mp3 players life now is just a mess with all these apps and technology nowdays people cant even talk right or have good convos without judgement or gettin in there feelings
@ScritRighter
@ScritRighter 7 ай бұрын
Cus D'Amato had it right down to the letter. Ali was underestimating Frazier, but Cus had an accurate read on both Frazier's skills and Ali's style. He knew Ali relied on timing and quick reflexes, and how much hiatus can take away from that. When the difference between landing a solid punch and missing it is mistiming by miliseconds, you're gonna be way worse than a slugger coming off of a break. He could see every crack and flaw in Ali, and every merit Frazier had. That's an incredible fight IQ.
@pikkon899
@pikkon899 2 ай бұрын
He was. Ali didn't want learn Cross Arm defense from Moore because Ali felt as if his speed was enough to keep him safe and because Ali wanted to retire young. By not learning more conventional ways to defend, pressure fighters often gave Ali the hardest time in the ring and he took unnecessary blows that could have been avoided with different defensive styles in his arsenal.
@Razah.
@Razah. 9 ай бұрын
I love the chemistry between these two, you can tell they both admire each other
@cameronhamilton7439
@cameronhamilton7439 3 жыл бұрын
Tyson was blessed to have had Cus D'amato in his life 🥊🥊
@clevelandwilliams5922
@clevelandwilliams5922 2 жыл бұрын
To why if he had not died so early in Tyson career. He wouldn’t have lost the Buster Douglas fight. In addition Tyson would’ve been ready to deal with the outside world.
@cameronhamilton7439
@cameronhamilton7439 2 жыл бұрын
@@clevelandwilliams5922 and let's not forget the most important thing, cus would have kept Mike from influencing of promoter DON KING 🗣
@clevelandwilliams5922
@clevelandwilliams5922 2 жыл бұрын
@@cameronhamilton7439 that’s the most important thing to why Rocky V movie is about how a trainer manager who loves his prodigy is there to protect him. But when you leave him in the arms of King you get a disastrous situation. I’m not saying Tyson is not accountable for his choices & decisions, but he was easy to take advantage of when Cus his father like manager has died & left you in the arms of these cannibalism forces.
@cameronhamilton7439
@cameronhamilton7439 2 жыл бұрын
@@clevelandwilliams5922 never heard Don King referred to as a Cannibal force 😄
@TerrySmith-yw2wl
@TerrySmith-yw2wl 2 ай бұрын
RIP Cus D Amato and Ali, i bet they are in heaven, arguing right now.
@joshuaevans89
@joshuaevans89 5 ай бұрын
I love when 2 men can talk aggressive and passionately, give view points and disagree, and agree and laugh all in the same conversation
@joeblow538
@joeblow538 3 жыл бұрын
Ali SERIOUSLY underestimated Frazier! And thats a serious understatement! All nite long, Frazier was clocking Ali in the jaw!!! If Ali hadn't infuriated Frazier, Ali would have probably won. But bcauz Ali made the fight more than a spectacle w/ the insults and name-calling, Frazier's focus was more lazer-like, thus his intensity in the ring was on another level. He was never more single minded in any other fight afterwards.
@clevelandwilliams5922
@clevelandwilliams5922 Жыл бұрын
Frazier had the same intensity towards Foreman even if he was knocked down, he would’ve beat him
@joeblow538
@joeblow538 Жыл бұрын
@@clevelandwilliams5922 Nope
@clevelandwilliams5922
@clevelandwilliams5922 Жыл бұрын
@@joeblow538 your sure about this, because he was knocked down twice by Bonavena who was at that point a far more professional, while Frazier was green. He managed to get a points decision. Against Ramos, he uncocked a wicked right uppercut, that sent him down with one punch, unlike Foreman who knocked Frazier by an accumulation of combination shots. Then he recovered to then knock him out by end Round 2. So give me your analysis, otherwise your opinion is void.
@joeblow538
@joeblow538 Жыл бұрын
@@clevelandwilliams5922 Here's the deal: Ali SUPREMELY underestimated Frazier in terms of both intensity and determination. Ali gave away at least 3 rounds by Ref Aurthur Mercante's view (w/little bullshit punches). If you noticed, in their 2nd fight, Ali successfully neutralized Frazier bcauz Ali was much more serious and thusly executed a better game plan. Had he done this in their 1st fight, the scores would have been more closer at the minimum.
@clevelandwilliams5922
@clevelandwilliams5922 Жыл бұрын
@@joeblow538 excuses by Ali to justify his loss. He was on cups of loosing the third fight in Manila as well. If he won it would only be by 1 or 2 points. When Ali beat Frazier in 2nd fight it was only by a razor thin margin.
@clubberlang589
@clubberlang589 3 жыл бұрын
64 years of age and you can’t see it. Cus D’amato - Why don’t you add another year so I can retire. Cus D’Amato is a legend.
@user-tf6mq5xf6k
@user-tf6mq5xf6k 4 ай бұрын
Cus was the Yoda of boxing.
@nellatl
@nellatl 3 ай бұрын
See cus blushing when Ali was shadow boxing. He recognizes greatness
@samsquanch5916
@samsquanch5916 5 ай бұрын
Cus: I'm gonna provoke you into throwing a punch at me. It's gonna cost you a million!! Ali: And who's gonna collect that? Your beneficiary 😂😂
@destroso
@destroso 27 күн бұрын
I just want to hear Cus talk, absolutely brilliant.
@barrybradshaw85
@barrybradshaw85 3 жыл бұрын
In their first fight, Joe had Ali against the ropes just like the Mexican champion ...but Ali was was a tough guy and recovered quickly when he got hurt. Plus he underestimated Joe and paid the price
@yusufrahman6341
@yusufrahman6341 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, he did underestimate joe by playing with him too much, waving to the crowd, and not being aggressive. The 15th round knockdown really won it for Joe.
@Ken_Frazer-619
@Ken_Frazer-619 11 ай бұрын
​@@yusufrahman6341Ali should've fought the Mexican champion after Bonavena before meeting Frazier the first time
@clubberlang589
@clubberlang589 3 жыл бұрын
That would have to be determined in the ring - Classic quote from a legend
@user-kp3kk6yx7l
@user-kp3kk6yx7l 2 жыл бұрын
محمد علي الاسطورة التي لن ولم تتكرر انه أعظم ملاكم في جميع الأزمان
@KamalShariff
@KamalShariff 2 жыл бұрын
Cus and Alki are having a great time together. This is beautiful.
@spank2424
@spank2424 3 ай бұрын
The greatest athlete that ever walked this earth I’m so blessed to be around to witness his fights live on tv!!
@raji6803
@raji6803 3 ай бұрын
What match sir?
@spank2424
@spank2424 3 ай бұрын
@@raji6803 Don’t understand sir????
@paulwiley8902
@paulwiley8902 3 жыл бұрын
As it turned out Cus D'Amato was correct with his predictions for that fight...
@yusufrahman6341
@yusufrahman6341 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, he sure was.
@thedarksecrets-official
@thedarksecrets-official 8 ай бұрын
Ali is so charismatic even his enemies love him
@ahhha4919
@ahhha4919 2 жыл бұрын
I liked how Cus predicted that Ali would fall to Frazier while Ali was blinded and over confident and underestimated smokin Joe and obv payed dearly. Props to both fighters both 1 of a kind in the sport
@thespy7795
@thespy7795 2 жыл бұрын
People on KZbin have NO Idea who Cus D'amato was. HE WAS NOT A TRAINER. HE WAS A MATCHMAKER AND A MANAGER! D'amato would advise other Trainers and Managers how to groom their Fighters. He didn't believe putting Fighter at risk. He Managed Floyd Patterson and kept Patterson away from Marty Marshall ( who beat Sonny Liston and broke Liston's jaw ) Nino Valdez, Cleveland Williams, Ernie Terrell and Sonny Liston. D'amato KNEW Patterson couldn't beat those Fighters and Patterson felt slighted. He ignored D'amato and signed to fight Liston and got starched in the first round. After ANOTHER first round KO loss to Liston, Patterson Fired D'amato and D'amato became Manager to Jose Torres. After Managing Torres to the Light-heavy Weight Title, D'amato was EFFECTIVELY out of Boxing until Tyson came along.
@syourke3
@syourke3 Жыл бұрын
Good info. Thanks. Patterson would never have become heavyweight champion without Cus.
@danthegamechanger3855
@danthegamechanger3855 3 жыл бұрын
Great video keep up the good work on your channel loving it 🙂🔥👍
@BOXINGLEGENDS
@BOXINGLEGENDS 3 жыл бұрын
Thank u i appreciate it
@abudujana13
@abudujana13 7 ай бұрын
Great documentary! Thanks for the video, BOXING LEGENDS
@liquidemotionzz3232
@liquidemotionzz3232 13 күн бұрын
12:00 watchig Cus dip and pop back up like that while moving bobbing side to side Tyson had such an amazing influence and Teacher
@abudujana13
@abudujana13 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, BOXING LEGENDS
@syourke3
@syourke3 Жыл бұрын
So great to hear Cuz Damato commenting about Ali and his comeback. Cus is smart and very honest. No BS. And he was right. Ali wasn’t 100 percent back when he fought Frazier. He needed more time and more fights to get back in shape. It’s a miracle he ever cans back at all after three and a half year layoff. But he was one of a kind.
@tntomlinsonboxing8768
@tntomlinsonboxing8768 3 жыл бұрын
Float like a butterfly sting like a bee.
@syedfayaz1428
@syedfayaz1428 3 жыл бұрын
America hits on the stomach of innocent people..Ali
@billthestinker
@billthestinker 3 жыл бұрын
great post
@SSR175
@SSR175 2 жыл бұрын
Cus was the first to spot this wasn't the same Ali who fought Zora Folley in 1967. The foot speed had diminished noticeably and Ali was getting caught much more than ever before. But one thing the man never lacked was sheer toughness. He realised he could take a beating and keep coming. Ali's analysis in the beginning was actually spot on. If he were as fast as he used to be, Joe would have had a lot of trouble keeping up with him and timing that magnificent left hook. Only he didn't realise he couldn't keep that up for long anymore. Joe Frazier, on the other hand, had so much to prove. He was the most motivated he'd ever been during this fight cuz he had to prove to everyone else he was the real champion. And he did. This rivalry will go down as one of the very greatest in the history of sport.
@clevelandwilliams5922
@clevelandwilliams5922 2 жыл бұрын
Ali of 1966 & 1967 would still lose to Frazier. One Frazier was not yet developed. The year this should’ve happened was 1968. By 1968 Frazier knew how to cut off the ring, Ali would be able to keep him at bay but as you can see here with Ramos title fight, Frazier was matching his foot speed. Ali was a lot faster than Ramos & a lot better, but it won’t take long for Frazier to be right in his face.
@nepaliguy6537
@nepaliguy6537 Жыл бұрын
@@clevelandwilliams5922 ali won more rounds than frazier in 1971
@clevelandwilliams5922
@clevelandwilliams5922 Жыл бұрын
@@nepaliguy6537 no he didn’t all 3 judges, including adjudicator ARTHUR MERCANTE SNR. Scored it in Fraziers favour. So stop with your Ali Lover statements. Plus body punches account for more points then head shots. To hit the body requires more skill and lateral movements. Ali just out jabbed Frazier which is easy points but not scored heavily.
@nepaliguy6537
@nepaliguy6537 Жыл бұрын
@@clevelandwilliams5922 you clearly don't know shit about boxing like seriously ever heard of political bias? corruption?
@massi6528
@massi6528 8 ай бұрын
@@clevelandwilliams5922 "body punches account for more points than head shots"!? You clearly don't know what you talking about.
@ebbenraves4338
@ebbenraves4338 9 ай бұрын
This is the best discussion of Ali that I have seen.
@yusufrahman6341
@yusufrahman6341 2 жыл бұрын
Ali said something strange in one of his interviews after his first fight with Frazier. He said..."Had I known I would have lost those rounds I played with Frazier, I wouldn't have done it" Did Ali think by not fighting he would win those rounds? Had he not given away those rounds, I believe he would have won that fight, even with the knock down in the 15th.
@user-mu1gj1sb6d
@user-mu1gj1sb6d 2 жыл бұрын
I think Ali thought he was gonna be able to pull something out of the hat later on in the fight when he thought Frazier would tire out but Frazier never tires out lol
@johnohill463
@johnohill463 2 жыл бұрын
Ali was also a great showman. People got value for money and Ali was good enough to avenge his losses. His goal was to entertain. Ali new he wasn't ready for Frazier but the people waned it so he went ahead and did it anyway. Muhammad Ali was no fool. By 1974, he was back.
@therealc.t.7085
@therealc.t.7085 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnohill463 It wasn’t because the people wanted him back that made him come back to quickly, he thought he was gonna go to jail and he needed the money.
@clevelandwilliams5922
@clevelandwilliams5922 2 жыл бұрын
This is called not respecting the opponent. He says what he likes to justify. Ali lovers are happy to lap it up. Ali lost that fight fair & square.
@clevelandwilliams5922
@clevelandwilliams5922 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnohill463 Ali needed more tune up fights, his losses to Frazier & Norton showed he had to take those opponents seriously.
@clevelandwilliams5922
@clevelandwilliams5922 2 жыл бұрын
Ali was a good Sport against Bonavena pre fight
@syourke3
@syourke3 Жыл бұрын
They liked each other. They were just playing. Funny when Oscar called him a “chicken” and went “peep, perp, peep!”😂
@philfrank9226
@philfrank9226 3 жыл бұрын
If this video was put together from different docus, what I think, it`s really a great achievement.
@ATruePrince
@ATruePrince 2 ай бұрын
18:10 Ali: I dont like people who talk to much Cus: Dont tell me you dislike yourself Cus is too funny
@philfrank9226
@philfrank9226 3 жыл бұрын
Jim Jacobs was a great Ali fan and he helped Ali in the exile with the the AKA film, where Ali got 100 grand.
@yusufrahman6341
@yusufrahman6341 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't know someone gave Ali $100K.
@philfrank9226
@philfrank9226 Жыл бұрын
@@yusufrahman6341 In the exile years he also got money from the NOI. Not only one way.
@djsugebryant281
@djsugebryant281 2 жыл бұрын
Ali; C'mon Cus, Frazier's not that fast? Cus; Yes he is!!
@yusufrahman6341
@yusufrahman6341 2 жыл бұрын
Classic!
@MrGreglarry
@MrGreglarry 2 ай бұрын
One of the greatest human beings America has had.
@Swat-ed5bt
@Swat-ed5bt 2 жыл бұрын
ALI THE GREATEST 🥊🥊🥊
@bryonwatkins1432
@bryonwatkins1432 3 жыл бұрын
OOOOOOOH, i didn’t know he had to cut 30 fucking pounds in that short time span!!!! Being a former fighter, studying cutting weight, etc., that takes a HUGE toll on your body!!!!
@yusufrahman6341
@yusufrahman6341 2 жыл бұрын
Wish I could do something like that today.
@bryonwatkins1432
@bryonwatkins1432 2 жыл бұрын
@@yusufrahman6341 You can.
@yusufrahman6341
@yusufrahman6341 2 жыл бұрын
@@bryonwatkins1432 Thanks for the encouragement I'm trying.
@bryonwatkins1432
@bryonwatkins1432 2 жыл бұрын
@@yusufrahman6341 If you get into a boxing 🥊 workout routine, that includes, four times a week, jogging 3-4 miles. That will drop off within 8-12 weeks.
@yusufrahman6341
@yusufrahman6341 2 жыл бұрын
@@bryonwatkins1432 Thinks for the advice boxing is out of the question for me, however, some lite jogging might do the trick.
@daweilee1986
@daweilee1986 10 ай бұрын
Hi, love you uploads. From the now gone Las Vegas boxing hall of fame channel on KZbin run by the now late Steve Lott using Jim Jacobs and Bill Cayton’s footage from their vaults, a few years ago there were two 1 hour uploads of all the footage recorded of Ali and Cus debating over how Ali would get on with past greats for this documentary. I have also seen footage from the same time of Ali asking Cus what he thought of Sugar Ray Robinson. I can’t seem to find it now, do you have it? Cus gave an excellent explanation as to why he doesn’t class Robinson as pound for pound the best boxer ever, and it’s because he wasn’t really a boxer as he got hit often and was offensive minded. He was determined and a fighter but not a boxer. Do you know where this footage was included? Thanks very much.
@Brian-ew9bn
@Brian-ew9bn 8 ай бұрын
I hope this gets an answer.
@BOXINGLEGENDS
@BOXINGLEGENDS 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunaly we dont have it ...thank u for nice comments...stay tuned...we have problem with monetization ,big reason why we stop with uploads...hope in near future that we'll be up with old new content..
@Xeno7771
@Xeno7771 Ай бұрын
Cus made Iron Mike Tyson. Listen to his words.
@clubberlang589
@clubberlang589 3 жыл бұрын
Cus D’Amato is wise and he can see things Ali can’t because Ali is blinded by his arrogance. Cus can see everything clear as day. This is why he is the greatest tutor of the sport. He never downplayed Ali abilities but he could see Fraser and Ali bout would’ve given Ali extreme trouble. He predicted it right on the money because he used intuition and observation to form that valid opinion.
@BOXINGLEGENDS
@BOXINGLEGENDS 3 жыл бұрын
Great comment as usual
@jayedwards1205
@jayedwards1205 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing how he said Frazier wanted to catch Ali trying to escape the ropes ... that’s the left hook that wobbled Ali in the 11h , after he had taken a huge left hook to the jaw, followed by a left hook to the body, Ali tried to Escape and Frazier pivoted and hit him with another left hook to the jaw and Ali fell into the ropes .
@yusufrahman6341
@yusufrahman6341 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, he was right about Ali. Everyone knows that Ali only listens to Ali!
@N.a.j.i.
@N.a.j.i. 2 жыл бұрын
They fought 3times. He best him twice. That was 1fight. And FYI: I suggest that ALI does listen to Ali since he's the one doing the fighting. Not sure how much any of you know about a man yall nevr met?
@clevelandwilliams5922
@clevelandwilliams5922 2 жыл бұрын
@@N.a.j.i.Ali fought Frazier 3 times and Ali survived all 3 fights.
@clubberlang589
@clubberlang589 3 жыл бұрын
Ali degrading of Fraser showed he had no respect for him. He learnt quite quickly after the first body blow he felt in the clinches.
@syedfayaz2149
@syedfayaz2149 2 жыл бұрын
Total injustice to Mr.moh.Ali🥊🔥🥊💥⚡
@youtoo2233
@youtoo2233 2 жыл бұрын
It was pretty clear in the first fight that if Ali had a couple of more tune-up fights he would have won the fight. Yes he had a couple of fights right before the first Frazier fight but Ali had been off for three and a half years and needed more time to get back into his pre-exile condition
@clevelandwilliams5922
@clevelandwilliams5922 Жыл бұрын
That was Ali mistake, his arrogance & pride combined together forced him to fight Frazier way too early then he should. People need to remember that when your conditioning is down, it takes time, hard work & consistency to get back there. When you have been out of the ring for 3 & 1/2 years show some humility, your not going to be same fighter. Ali thought he could still beat Frazier even when he was forced out, what a mistake. He had to learn the hard way.
@jayedwards4787
@jayedwards4787 Жыл бұрын
Ali wouldn’t won that fight if he had 10 more fights
@youtoo2233
@youtoo2233 Жыл бұрын
@@jayedwards4787 I definitely disagree, Ali at his best beats Frazier all day long every fight. Ali beat Joe Frazier two out of three fights and could have won the first one if he didn't clown around for 2 or 3 rounds.
@jayedwards4787
@jayedwards4787 Жыл бұрын
@@youtoo2233 what an absurd claim…Frazier pummeled Ali in the first fight … just took him on straight up and beat his butt for 15 rounds…one judge had it 11-4… you weren’t around in 71 were you ?..
@clevelandwilliams5922
@clevelandwilliams5922 Жыл бұрын
@@jayedwards4787 Don’t argue with Ali lovers, body punches always earn more points than a jab. Ali may have jabbed all night but when you deliver a body blow it’s equivalent of 10 jabs.
@MrMenefrego1
@MrMenefrego1 Жыл бұрын
Ali was able to say anything except the word conservative. At several places in this video, Ali attempts to say the word conservative, which came out as 'con-ser-gative' lol!
@sharmindecruz9757
@sharmindecruz9757 11 ай бұрын
True 😂😂
@j1n3
@j1n3 8 ай бұрын
que genio Bonavena!!
@CherryBlossomskt
@CherryBlossomskt 2 ай бұрын
19:20 If I had a lower IQ …. 😂
@MKL1284
@MKL1284 9 ай бұрын
Thats Jim Jacobs who is Mike Tysons future manager, doing the interview with Angelo Dundee.
@richardbranton7396
@richardbranton7396 3 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day you clowns hating on Muhammad ,Cus said Ali was and believed he was the greatest heavyweight of all time and he certainly wasn't wrong about that
@John-pc2yr
@John-pc2yr 10 ай бұрын
Yea, but cus also said Marciano would've knocked Ali out 😉
@richardbranton7396
@richardbranton7396 10 ай бұрын
@@John-pc2yr fantasy,and Zora Folley said he wouldn't have got past the jab ,true,and Manny Steward said Ali would have been too big and too fast ,and that's from a guy with a poster of RM prominently displayed in his gym .. Marciano from Liston on would have been another strong contender ie quarry ,Chuvalo ,Lyle etc
@thelastheteroincali
@thelastheteroincali 10 ай бұрын
​​@@John-pc2yre also said Joe Louis would ko him , and he was right about that
@rc391995
@rc391995 2 ай бұрын
Down maybe I'm not so sure about out.
@Ken_Frazer-619
@Ken_Frazer-619 3 жыл бұрын
Ali should've listened to Cus
@rgood1204
@rgood1204 5 ай бұрын
Seeing the evil government stole 3 years of his prime, cus had nothing but an opinion. Ali in his absolute prime would have destroyed Frazier.
@1da2vi3e
@1da2vi3e 6 ай бұрын
how many guys are left that were taught by the great master I think only two who got his method and that's Tyson and Ted, imagine them two running Cus's old boxing club how many future champions would there be
@philfrank9226
@philfrank9226 3 жыл бұрын
Fine doku, well done.
@BOXINGLEGENDS
@BOXINGLEGENDS 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you...this two fighters = boxing epic
@Ffeoli1039
@Ffeoli1039 3 жыл бұрын
Put an Ali mask on anybody and I think Frazier's chances of winning goes up. Love Smokin Joe
@user-jf4if6vx9e
@user-jf4if6vx9e 8 ай бұрын
im a old man ! nahhhh im talking about joe frazier here XD
@yusufrahman6341
@yusufrahman6341 2 жыл бұрын
Was that Cutis Mayfield Ali was sparring with?
@arnaldoMendoza50
@arnaldoMendoza50 5 ай бұрын
"Plus, he is ugly". Hahahahaha.
@vinnydisorder9500
@vinnydisorder9500 2 ай бұрын
cus d'amato was the real life micky
@1da2vi3e
@1da2vi3e 6 ай бұрын
Cus was right in the end but Ali in the end managed to overcome the loss by winning two more fights, if Ali had listened to Cus and made adjustments I believe he would have won the first undisputed the only thing Frazier had over him was the activity that keeps you sharp if Ali had used his jab with a combination and then hug restart and jab and move slow the pace down in defence and lots of angles and speed when attacking, Cus try to tell him but Ali shrugged him off lol
@darrisstransou
@darrisstransou 5 ай бұрын
Ali was weak in the loins...he wanted to send ol girl away with more than an autograph 😂
@fiolds350
@fiolds350 3 ай бұрын
Ali I have the same belt of John L Sullivan. Damn
@perkinsvalentine
@perkinsvalentine 3 жыл бұрын
The footage with Cus is gold. Joe Frazier was born to win the Fight of the Century against the Fighter of the Century, and not much more. Ali needed Joe as he needed Norton to develop into a fighter who could defeat a new breed of heavyweight athlete, like George Foreman and Lyle. Frankly Ali's story is too big to tell because of his effect on us as individuals during that time, and since.
@jefferykazimer
@jefferykazimer 8 ай бұрын
$300 in 1966 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $2,830.47 today..... cRAZY
@MichaelHickey2003
@MichaelHickey2003 4 ай бұрын
Ali would win the early rounds but by the middle Cus would be warmed up and by round 15 would eventually completely dismantle and brutally knock out Ali in glorious fashion
@pattrell5257
@pattrell5257 2 жыл бұрын
I saw this and even had a fight VHS I made out of this and other fight video clips. The mutual sparring should have predicted a tough night. Like Cus said, he was an old man and--if he could do it--so could Joe... I don't think you beat the prime Joe with speed and athleticism, but you needed wisdom and toughness or power to jump on him early to do it. That's why AIi won the last 2. It wasn't his speed and athleticism. Frazier had so much determination and energy! I do feel that AIi really won a close decision or it was a draw as far as what happened*, but you do have to factor in holding. I think NY penalized the fighter for excessive holding, so Joe may have won all of or drew in the close or semi-close rounds... *But, there was no 2 point rounds.
@michaelhubbard4023
@michaelhubbard4023 4 ай бұрын
This is boxing at it's best when top fighters couldn't wait to get in the ring with each other. They didn't care if they lost their 0. Ali is a legendary heavyweight champion, my hero and a person that I grew up idolizing. Frazier was as well. These are the best of the best heavyweight champions fighting each other.
@Mr.56Goldtop
@Mr.56Goldtop 2 жыл бұрын
It would have been interesting to have seen how Ali would have turned out if he would have been with Cus D'Amato instead of Angelo Dundee. Angelo gave Ali a LOT of leeway that he would never have gotten from Cus. Ali even says that HE ran the show, not Angelo. That would not have happened with Cus.
@inigomulaisho2809
@inigomulaisho2809 Жыл бұрын
The gap between rounds one and two was exactly one minute. The gap between rounds two and three was, again, exactly one minute. Same again for rounds three and four. But the gap between rounds four and five - the moment of the torn glove incident - was, precisely, one minute and six seconds. In other words, only six seconds more than all the other intervals. But as it was, a myth was born that Dundee had bought Ali minutes of extra time to recover. - BBC
@massi6528
@massi6528 8 ай бұрын
Well, Dundee said otherwise! Regardless of how much we love and respect Ali history must be retold as it happened.
@JMC786
@JMC786 3 жыл бұрын
Ken Norton at 30:00 mark
@rondocombatgems3949
@rondocombatgems3949 2 жыл бұрын
What?
@philfrank9226
@philfrank9226 3 жыл бұрын
Cus D`Ámato was totally right and Ali wrong.
@mikepersich3148
@mikepersich3148 8 ай бұрын
Frazier had the greatest victory of all time by anybody
@daweilee1986
@daweilee1986 10 ай бұрын
Dundee is lying that Ali got 4-5 mins in between round 4 and 5 against Cooper. I've seen the full footage and it was literally seconds.
@larrycoleman9513
@larrycoleman9513 2 жыл бұрын
That right hook that landed on joe fraizer should have knocked him out. Idk how the older heavyweights took such a beating. No wonder their brains were so damaged. Ali lasted longer than most fighters because ali knew how to stall the clock. He also did moves that are illegal today like holding behind the head. Constant holding and backhand jab. On another note they did let ali get rabid punched on the back of his head constantly. I guess they just didn’t care back then.
@fiolds350
@fiolds350 3 ай бұрын
Cus was low down promoting Ali. You can't do it kid. Making Ali want it more
@papadwarf6762
@papadwarf6762 11 ай бұрын
Cus was right and Ali lost to Frasier first fight
@klassickingz9094
@klassickingz9094 Жыл бұрын
Cus must've valued himself real high, he wouldn't agree to take any money ali's willing to pay a week if he was his trainer lol i wondered what type of money cus would accept..
@megsmith596
@megsmith596 Жыл бұрын
A percentage as he said I am not an employee I'm a partner.
@klassickingz9094
@klassickingz9094 Жыл бұрын
@@megsmith596 meg would you work for me?
@massi6528
@massi6528 8 ай бұрын
Ali my man, you should have listened to Cus and not be that cocky in your first fight with Smokin Joe.
@philfrank9226
@philfrank9226 Жыл бұрын
...and Gus was so right at Ali vs Frazier.
@bagfulloftoffee5699
@bagfulloftoffee5699 3 жыл бұрын
Only one true champ smokin Joe
@terrenceperkins5282
@terrenceperkins5282 4 ай бұрын
Joe Frazier is overrated only beat ali once ali was playing around tye 1st figth for 5 rounds .Frazier have no jab no cross no foot work no skill never won the belt back never fought sonny liston Ken Forman floyd Patterson spikes Larry Holmes shavers Ron Frazier only fought 3 time of 3 years with the belt .
@ytbenavraham9553
@ytbenavraham9553 11 ай бұрын
I only had one grievance with Ali was how he disrespected his opponent. There is no need for that. He even disrespected the Master Cus. He interrupted him often, called him old man. Im not impressed. Many great fighters. Ali was not the greatest to me. Showman, disrespectful yes he was the greatest
@dathriller
@dathriller 11 ай бұрын
Float like a butterfly and sting a bee🐝 all rumble young man rumble ahhh
@Brian-ew9bn
@Brian-ew9bn 8 ай бұрын
With Cus he was joking. With Frazier he was half joking but with extremely hurtful words. It’s no wonder Joe fought him so ferociously.
@philfrank9226
@philfrank9226 3 жыл бұрын
I like Ali, but when he talked about Frazier, I hate him. Ali had a bad Karma against Joe.
@terrenceperkins5282
@terrenceperkins5282 6 ай бұрын
Nobody can't beat ali or tyson in they prime . Joe is overrated he only fought 2 A list fighters ali 1-3 . Forman 0 -2 . Joe fought B& C fighters Joe have no jab upper cut no foot work no cross . A dam gd left hook Joe never fought sonny liston Ken Forman floyd Patterson spikes Larry Holmes shavers Ron Loyd. . Love cus rest Ali Cus
@philfrank9226
@philfrank9226 3 жыл бұрын
The splitt glove, 3 to 4 minutes, lovl. It was some seconds, u can c it on the film. He and Pacecho often lies, to built up the Ali legacy, and the own. Some years later, he talked another story.And the Liston fight, between round 4 and 5, the next lie.
@clevelandwilliams5922
@clevelandwilliams5922 2 жыл бұрын
& he was given smelling salts to revive him. He was finished from that one punch.
@yeshuaswords2776
@yeshuaswords2776 5 ай бұрын
This is the prophecy about the second coming of Jesus Zechariah 13:7 “Awake, sword, against my shepherd, against the man who is close to me!” declares the LORD Almighty. “Strike the shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered, and I will turn my hand against the little ones. The Shepherd here is Jesus. John 10:11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. This is the fulfillment of the prophecy. Matthew 26:31 Then Jesus told them, “This very night you will all fall away on account of me, for it is written: “’I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock will be scattered.’ This happened near 30 AD. Hosea 6:1-2 Come, let us return to the LORD. He has torn us to pieces but he will heal us; he has injured us but he will bind up our wounds. After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will restore us, that we may live in his presence. In prophecies 1day is equal to 1000 years. Which means after two thousand years Jesus will return again. And on the third day which is the 3rd millennium, we will live in his sight. We all know we cannot see God's face and live on Earth. So it's the second coming of Jesus. Luke 21:11 ► There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven. Matthew 24:6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. We are the witnesses of all these things. From the death of Jesus to 2030 there are 2000 years. Jesus is coming soon. Let's all repent and turn from our old ways and turn to the Lord. Praise the Lord. Peace and Love to you all Easter is pagan, the resurrection day of the Lord is correct and please stop taking the Lord's name in vain like saying omg or using it with a bad word or taking it in anyway that is in vain. Even the devil trembles in his name and we shouldn't use the powerful name like that. For the people who says Jesus is not God here's a verse. Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Everlasting Father?. There's your answer The whole world will turn against Israel and not just Palestinians. Then know the end is near. God bless you all. Please spread this message to the ends of the world
@stat-x
@stat-x 6 ай бұрын
People watching clips of this man even decades later. Why? Because the world we live in today lacks male role models.... People with charisma.
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