Breakdown Of HANS VS VIDIT | Fabi Ready To Defend GCT Title In Romania | C2 | EP. 63

[@rossevers]

21:28 that wasn’t trash talk that was simply disrespectful, And the fact that afterwards he insulted his family, it’s beyond

[@polarbear9672]

Keep crying 🤡

[@HansButtplugNiemann]

Oh no. Anyway

[@Archeops24]

It's fine.. everyone has moved on from this

[@mrichards]

@@Archeops24 ??? we're literally in the comments of a podcast that talks about this... this is incredibly on-topic.

[@u.v.s.5583]

Caruana: Hikaru missed a chance to promote chess by getting in prison!

[@Vanessa-uo6lt]

the way i didn't even hear about hans v. vidit until now

[@styxsoul3552]

Fabi's shirt is iconic💙💙

[@SerLaama]

Cristian's shirt is ironic

[@tennisCharlzz]

Different people, different shirt messages! Fabi wearing The Pillars of Creation (a feature in the Eagle nebula) and Cristian showing off his pecs. It says a lot about their two personalities too. 😁

[@mammeljuice]

It looks like cats on fabis shirt​@@tennisCharlzz

[@tennisCharlzz]

@@mammeljuice You can see stars on the top, I believe. Google "pillars of creation" and space.

[@e4jasperi]

Cats of creation

[@Billadelson]

Guys, don't let commercial considerations impact the quality of your podcast, and don't be afraid to call out bad behavior when you see it. I've enjoyed your podcast and hope its original spirit and honest freedom of tone survive commercial pressure.

[@bharlesCabbage]

I feel like Fabi has an animal shirt collection.

[@hellostranger2012]

What a camera angle! Cristian🌝

[@cluckycluck3053]

Nice strategic placement of the pillow.

[@guysoabbmly]

Cristian like's to show to the whole world what his got down there 😄😄

[@prcbras]

Christian is helping chess players beat the nerdy looking allegations. One of the best looking GMs

[@fizzlid4511]

It was disturbing. If not because of the pillow I would've 🤮

[@jjjyotish]

Can we put Christian's definition of "trash talk" in a c-squared T-shirt so that Hikaru can wear it . 😑 Glad that Fabi intervened.

[@georgemallory7261]

About the yhe Hikaru vs Alireza stuff...the issue with you guys is that yall didn't even mention exactly what Hikaru did. Yall didn't present all of the facts. Hence y'all were really biased. Add the fact that Christian gets paid to do commentary by Hikaru and Hikaru/chesscom being extremely powerful in the chess world, this adds to the conflict of interest and bias

[@sawqs94]

They tried to fix it in this episode, but they've only made it worse, it wasn't trash talking by Hikaru's side, he was just completely crying like a baby only after he got destroyed by Alireza, and they still didn't talk about the things he said

[@nanashiv2]

@@sawqs94grow up man and go outside. this is such a non issue. hikaru was mad alireza threatened to withdraw and tilted and then said things he shouldn’t have. It’s not that deep.

[@golendorfjules1838]

@@nanashiv2 he insulted him and his father and got very disrespectful, how deep should it go before something is done, murder? you goof

[@polarbear9672]

@@golendorfjules1838 Apparently mean words = murder now. You're a clown, go touch grass

[@polarbear9672]

@@sawqs94 The only people crying like a baby are people like you making a big deal out of a small thing that happened weeks ago, grow up dude go outside

[@Naa-ee7nq]

the strange thing is that federations are run like clubs and players like business entities rather than federations representing an underlying club culture in a country, they are like clubs themselves which is not normal in other sports for instance, it had no real impact in Messi's private career to play for Argentina despite having dual citizenship and playing in Spain since he was 13 until his 30s - perhaps he would have won more in non-club tournaments for Spain but it didn't impact him beyond that, as it shouldn't in chess for some reason not being federated prevents you from accessing important tournaments and membership is used to push players to represent other countries in exchange of benefits that should be accessible to them anyway this has created a mercenary figure in country/federation representation that is unpalatable to a lot of people and arguably very unfair

[@insidercam]

Tell Fabi this is the best haircut for him. :D He found the proper hairdresser. :) Well, let's enjoy your podcast and Good luck to Fabi.

[@insidercam]

Enjoyed it, guys, as always. I thought you would be saying something about Richard Rapport's switch of federations, because it was like a ping-pong between Hu and Ro at very short intervals of time. I am interested in your perespective. I know Fabi gets along with Richard and that is fine (Richard is my mom's favourite :) ), but i am sure your ideas will be interesting. Hugs from Romania (unfortunately not Bucharest, although I wish, but from Oradea) :*

[@kc910]

You know Fabi can read, right? 😜

[@insidercam]

@@kc910 I think Cristi manages the page, but that is my deduction.

[@Phymacss]

Believe it or not, I didn’t hear about rapport switching federations until I saw your comment. Thanks for the info!

[@insidercam]

@@Phymacss I'm glad! :)

[@112233JORDAN]

Wait, this "Who the FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE!!!!?!" happens all the time? Damn, you guys should become TMZ and spill the beans on those incidents lol

[@arnontzori]

You really think top competitive players don't let their emotions get the better of them? Have you never seen competitive sports, like ever?

[@kyumi__]

@@arnontzori Well most of the other top chess players aren't as emotional as Hikaru.

[@arnontzori]

@@kyumi__ sounds like you should become the original commenter's TMZ. Personally I know none of them well enough to say how emotional they are, and of all the top players only Hikaru streams

[@halfriver]

@@arnontzori Bro it's one thing to get mad / tilted but you can't go after your opponent's family calling them crazies and such.

[@nyztan0]

30:41 - excellent point that fabi makes here, never cut out the european market, many great points made by both of you this podcast, love it!

[@paulgottlieb]

Chess players are not the property of their national federations. They are not indentured servants. They should have the same rights as anyone else to immigrate and pursue their careers in a new country..

[@e4jasperi]

Next first American Blitz Champion!

[@dreidu]

The sirens were driving me mad... I thought it was next to my building

[@paparatzz7531]

There is a guy in the backgroud

[@nellieb6585]

I have so many questions about the set up…😂

[@adriantovar9122]

you ARE being biased in the Alireza Hikaru drama, Not by taking sides but by how you are covering, not explaining exactly what happened and omitting a lot. And I understand you don't want to be the TMZ of chess but this is not an isolated incident, is a pattern of behavior for Hikaru who has damaged more than one person due to his position of power/popularity, and not addressing it more thoroughly seems irresponsible.

[@kc910]

Irresponsible? 😂 They have no responsibility to you or anyone else to report every detail of everything that happens.

[@adriantovar9122]

@@kc910 hahahaha, sure you are right.

[@yanlopesteixeira]

Can we have Fabi on shorts as well?

[@xDEEZKNUGHTZx]

Bro Fabi deserves an endorsement deal with Purina Meow Mix. 🐈🤓

[@IamPain190]

Love the vibe and fabi's tshirt ❤

[@jordan22031991]

Fabi at the end was like with a sigh of relief and thinking " this is done finally now back to chess "

[@ultrainstinctshaggy669]

Cool vibes for this one. Should do this more often when possble

[@SerLaama]

1: Not criticizing Hikaru is absolutely the easy way. Nobody is suggesting you have to go full Gotham drama whore on the situation. 2: It's just silly to claim the reason for this is that people are "too online" or some such. It's a professional environment. Hikaru acted like a child, as a well-established top player with plenty of experience with publicity, in his late 30s. Obviously this shouldn't happen.

[@polarbear9672]

The people who are making a big deal out of a couple of mean words like you ARE exhibiting a high degree of chronically online behavior. He's not wrong, and the only unprofessional ones here are people like you

[@TheNiczal]

One of the effects of change of nationalities is that invitations decrease as many organizers want to have diversity of countries that has affected players like Vidit and Sam Shankland for example.

[@azctw]

Hans's argument is simple: waaaahhhh! GMs move here that are stronger than me

[@jal2550]

I dont think the mics are working.....sounds like in camera audio

[@Uzasback]

Doesn’t it just seem like the easiest way to deal with the > 10 tournaments scoring is to just take the 10 best scores?

[@spirejfk7879]

If Hans or Alireza cursed out Hikaru over the board, would you guys treat them with kid gloves ,same way you use kid gloves to handle Hikaru?? As Fabiano just said BS is BS and the viewers aint falling for your Hikaru Kid gloves!!

[@Navs006]

Love the new backdrop

[@Randomthings1210]

Finally someone said it why Arjun doesn’t get invites. Although I am Indian and want to see Arjun playing top tournaments, it’s wrong to say Arjun not having invites to 4-5 top events this year is unfair.

[@LunnarisLP]

I mean most of last year he was "low" rated in comparison to top GMs after he dropped rating holding just barely above 2700. Right now there are 32 players above 2700 rating, so naturally you cant invite every 2700 player. And tournaments are planned ahead of time, especially these days, where securtiy concepts have to be more sophisticated compared to maybe 20 years ago. I dont work in the business, but I could see many hosts planning these tournaments 6-8 months ahead of time. So yeah I think the tournaments that are being planned right now will be much more likely to give him an invite. But even given all those things I think it is a reasonable thing to invite players who have played for a long time and been to the tournament often as well. You know the fans want to see them. Talking people like MVL or Grischuk for example to give some examples. We can argue that it is unfair that they get invited if they are ranked lower, but at the same time one can argue that it would be unfair not to invite them given the fact someone like MVL has showed us top level chess for a decade just because they are now rated 15-20 points lower.

[@FrGOMG]

Yea because most ppl think only top 10 get invites when usually thats not even the case we see otehr 2700 players making a comeback like wei yi who was not in top 10 for quite some time maybe he did become top 10 later but i think every 2700 players deserve atleast 1 invite in their chess career lifetime.

[@niwlarosejio]

😮

[@niwlarosejio]

Lol

[@yuri5k]

@@FrGOMG you are cerrtainly free to organize tournament for top10 where you invite few other players by your choosing.

[@davidc5191]

Regarding chess players born in other countries playing on your national team, that's quite normal for many countries like the US. In the 1982 Chess Olympiad, the top US players were Browne (born in Australia) Seirawan (born in Syria), Alburt (born in Russia), and Kavalek (born in Czechoslovakia).

[@xxFortunadoxx]

This was an easy chance to just take the L, apologize, and move on without drama. It wasn't "some people." Everybody was calling you guys out. Alireza actually said Hikaru should be banned for what he said. Pretending that this was nothing just shows that you aren't objective.

[@sarvan8269]

alireza recently tweeted after losing to fabi about tate brothers who are known sex trafickkers and misogynists and alireza supports them since a few years how can you support a human being like that, id rather take a toxic person like hikaru over a misogynist like alireza

[@Randomthings1210]

God bless the Pillow!!

[@yesenadam]

"Basically people were just saying that we were defending Hikaru, and, uh, taking his side, bashing Alireza. It couldn't be, I would say, further from the truth" 20:05 Amazingly disappointing response. 😞 I always loved this podcast, and both you guys..but really feel like never coming back after this. It feels so dirty and disgusting. Thanks.

[@thechesslobster2768]

wtf are you talking about. They don't have to be as mad as we are lol, hikaru acted unsportsmanlike, it's not like he killed someone or committed a crime... jesus christ the pearl clutching in the chess community can be insane. I'm not a fan of hikaru but people who are treating this like a fall from grace are hilarious, he's acted like this for years.

[@31redorange08]

@@thechesslobster2768 And it doesn't have any consequences, that's the problem. You are part of the system by not caring.

[@thechesslobster2768]

@@31redorange08 wtf should the consequence be? Ban him for getting angry and being disrespectful to another player? That’s sports man, you don’t have to like it!

[@prcbras]

lol why do u care so much? Being this invested in this nonsense is like asking life to give you some real problems to worry about. The lack of grass touching is wild

[@guysoabbmly]

i guess on this channel free speech is not allowed i commented about hikaru's behavior without insulting anyone and immediately my comment was deleted what a protection for hikaru

[@guillaumelagueyte1019]

Most YT comments that disappear are just deleted by the algorithm, my dude. Happens to me all the time even though there's nothing special in my posts. I think that the longer the post, the higher the chances of it being deleted automatically.

[@thomassavage8581]

the last one in person was in canada Fabi when it was a rapid event remember!!!! and carlsen won it and levy was calling the games with james canty

[@hallowedbeminename]

I know it's marketing, but I hate calling the Hans / Vidit match a 50k prize fund with a 30k/20k split. In reality they were paid 20k each to compete for 10k prize!

[@tylerkay825]

.....that's a 30k/20k split... no difference

[@eternalblueboy]

Yeah yeah, what if It was Hans saying those insults to Alireza. Would you still be so civil and understanding. You two might have lost your balls somewhere?

[@abhinavshankar414]

Idk how you guys can still say that what Hikaru did was fine. Let's just forget about what he said, he stopped an ongoing match after losing multiple games and he was completely titled. He got a 20 mins break to cooldown. He didn't get penalised or anything. How can anyone justify this

[@santeriojanen8479]

The event was badly organized. The clock should have just went on. The first match would have been gone with the tilt. And then if rules allow Hikaru could have played the second. What is blinding in this internet era is that there is lot of love/hate thing going on. Hikaru seems to have many haters, and their agenda on this seems to lean on that . I like both players. Hikaru approved the extended break (which shouldn't have really happened in my opinion) so that should have been it. He shouldn't have returned to issue , but then again he went to tilt. Like Fabi says people behave sometimes also in chess world in horrible ways (as in life tends to be the case) I think Alireza really was going to really give the match away. They should have more clearer rules on can you ask more time ? This version where player goes time or I ain't playing is strange. Mess of an event really.

[@StevenSendak]

"can still say that what Hikaru did was fine."

[@abhinavshankar414]

@@StevenSendak I did watch the video. They kept saying how he said stuff in the heat of the moment, how no one would've cared if this happens irl, how some level of trash talk is good.

[@abhinavshankar414]

@@santeriojanen8479 I just think that stopping an ongoing game just so you can call your opponent a liar and tell them " who the f*** do you think you are" should result in immediate disqualification.

[@imadeanaccountjusttodothis7785]

What did he do?

[@kc910]

Looking great boys! Best of luck in GCT Romania!! ☺️🤍

[@RajAgarwal-pg7kn]

Is that oparin in the back?

[@ChessAndKungFu]

Great shades!

[@alejandroortizmejia9895]

41:18 A posible solution could be allow change federations but not playing on different Olympic teams, maybe?

[@sauceeess]

Love Fabi's tshirt 👌

[@hngeh7021]

I have some sympathy for how Fabi and Cristian are handling the whole Alireza vs. Hikaru thing. Fabi likely has to see Hikaru at some point at tournaments and would probably prefer to maintain at least a cordial relationship with him, while Cristian (as far as I understand it, never watched it myself) commentates on Hikaru's Kick channel or something like that (so also has an interest in not souring that relationship). Even if they wanted to talk about it, there's not much to say really. Obviously Hikaru didn't behave very professionally in lashing out, but that's about all there is to say about it.

[@pierQRzt180]

rating alone is not enough BUT the highest rating in the top10 of the fide circuit (once that completes) then it is ok. Because one has to play a lot, play well and keep the rating high.

[@vorfreu]

Does this kind of trash talks also happen to include insulting other's parents Christian? Would you like to see someone else insult your parents as well? Class act 👏trashy justifying trash, by comparing it to bar fights

[@ippimerawr]

Just doubling down. Sad to see. He wouldn’t say this is somebody else did it.

[@sarvan8269]

@@ippimerawr alireza recently tweeted after losing to fabi about tate brothers who are known sex trafickkers and misogynists and alireza supports them since a few years how can you support a human being like that, id rather take a toxic person like hikaru over a misogynist like alireza

[@michaelf8221]

haha who is that other person on the far right?

[@31redorange08]

Another bad take on Hikaru, normalizing his behavior.

[@sarvan8269]

alireza recently tweeted after losing to fabi about tate brothers who are known sex trafickkers and misogynists and alireza supports them since a few years how can you support a human being like that, id rather take a toxic person like hikaru over a misogynist like alireza

[@31redorange08]

@@sarvan8269 Wow, you are crazy.

[@sarvan8269]

@@31redorange08 how am i crazy whole reddit is bashing alireza left and right even twitter is bashing him but no i am crazy and you are special

[@31redorange08]

@@sarvan8269 Yes, you are. My comment didn't say anything about Alireza, so your answer is spam. Go touch some grass, Hikaru fanboy.

[@RichardGadsden]

I think I have a problem with a player who plays in the Olympiad for a different country every two years and ends up having played for five or six countries. That doesn't feel like representing "your" country to me. So I'd want some restriction on changing federations to stop players doing that and to stop federations spending a lot of money to collect the best players even if they have no connection to your country. I could easily see a UAE or Saudi prince getting into chess and just offering top players large amounts of money to represent the prince's country, and then that "super-team" could be very competitive in the Olympiad. That wouldn't be good for chess. I don't know how to allow for the many legitimate cases while stopping that sort of illegitimate case, but that's why I'm not a member of the FIDE council; that's the sort of thing they are supposed to think about.

[@AbelGarcia-ki5nd]

come on Chris, share the bench evenly :)

[@Heygujvff]

No one is going to pay $200+ to play a tournament they have no chance of winning unless there are category prizes. Poker works because amateurs have a half decent chance at cashing.

[@Micheldelphine-nq1zx]

Another poor take on Alireza/Hikaru incident. No I'm sorry, insulting an opponent and their families when loosing is not ok. This not a normal human behavior, especially in sport.

[@polarbear9672]

Boohoo mean words oh nooo!! Grow up, the only not normal human behavior is coming from trolls like you

[@gelatinousjoe7979]

They kept talking about it in abstract like everyone is just upset about “trash talk” when it was a mid-match temper tantrum with personal directed insults towards Alireza.

[@christofferore6285]

Yeah thats crazy. Arjun number 4 in the world. Btw if you could make the Numbers crazy high you could gain as many Numbers as your opponents rating. Than better opponents you beat and the more you win the more points you earn. But the draw is hard to give points for. Mby half the points for both. But than the people with lower rating would be able to earn more but they still have to beat the top which would make less by the win. Love to see ding play more again. Love to see him back with his full focus and hope he will Get back to 2800 strength.

[@chesspervouralsk]

Nice ending babe !-) * Hikaru has to control his mouth or he'll get f***ed one day 😊

[@ChristopheDepret]

We not stupid, you work for the same company, you not going to knife each other

[@kc910]

Doing work with a company is not the same as working for a company. Of course a lot of them work with sane company. There’s only so many to choose from for chess players.

[@20teverify]

Caruana's sidekick is so annoying with his PR approach.

[@StevenSendak]

His "sidekick" is one of the

[@rossowen3918]

Once again…another poor take on the Alireza/Hikaru saga

[@nanashiv2]

how sad do you have to be to obsess over this?

[@haileyrattlecliff1274]

Bro stop it, seek help. It’s a non issue if I’ve ever seen one

[@rossowen3918]

@@nanashiv2 very sad

[@sarvan8269]

@@rossowen3918 alireza recently tweeted after losing to fabi about tate brothers who are known sex trafickkers and misogynists and alireza supports them since a few years how can you support a human being like that, id rather take a toxic person like hikaru over a misogynist like alireza

[@gelatinousjoe7979]

I’m not sure what is compelling them to downplay it so hard.

[@JanWinter1]

my 5c´s regarding federation switching: When you switch federations to play for another country you should have the nationality of the country you are representing. The possibility to switch federations and represent the country without changing nationalities or having lived for a long duration in a country (esp w/junior players) is where chess differs from other sports. It is also silly that in the case that you change nationality that you cannot play for your country without changing your federations. And in the case of top players you also have to pay a significant fee. The system is flawed, or at best not really well explainable for people outside of the chess world.

[@hasparov]

Coming soon on Chessable: The Crotch Gambit!

[@gelatinousjoe7979]

They were definitely downplaying how nasty Hikaru’s meltdown and temper tantrum was. It was a character revealing moment and I guess they just can’t afford to address it directly for one reason or another. If anyone watching this hasn’t seen or read specifics you should. This conversation gives the wrong impression of it.

[@oraz.]

Christian looks like an NES character

[@KyleMc16]

These comments are wild. When not taking a side because you dont care about the drama is seen as "biased" the individuals saying that should take a look in the mirror. I dont give a shit about all these little stories that people try to get so angry over. I am happy that Chirstian and Fabi dont bother with it outside of saying it happened. You guys need to chill out or just go get your rage bait from other youtubers who play into your feelings.

[@ChristopheDepret]

Chess is the one of the very few sport you can switch federation. I like how aronian played for Arménie for so many yrars and switch.. For surr he take one spot for one American player.. Fabi dont care because hes on the top but he was a rising young guys.. 😂

[@armandomarin371]

This was a good video

[@TheBlackChessAuthority]

Millionaire Chess had a low turnout. Marcie had three of these tournaments and each one had a low turnout. The World Open, on the other hand, has large turnouts. Each of Marcie's tournaments must have lost money, which is why they have disappeared.

[@rojareyhani9436]

The worst backpeddling ever!

[@fragneeljellal5445]

what a studs

[@markhathaway9456]

Chess players don't always realize that their views of the game and how to play it can bleed over to other things. For example, when they were discussing the Niemann v Vidit match production, Fabi and then Chris agreed, you have to do it right the first time or nobody will want to do it again for fear of failure. It's just like a player discussing a Novelty and how you had better have it nailed the first time.

[@rtt1961]

Chris with the strategic-pillow.

[@haileyrattlecliff1274]

There’s so many snowflakes in the chess world wow 😯 great episode guys, don’t mind the haters. love the vibes on this one, very summery

[@kpNov23]

All chessplayers are snowflakes compared to mainstream lol.

[@31redorange08]

The people not worshipping Hikaru are snowflakes? Is this actually what you're saying?

[@HenryTho]

Fabi still hasn’t entered his prime !

[@battosai5311]

Hikaru needs to bring back the bad boy persona openly again. Peak entertainment. We all know how Hikaru feels about some people. Stop caging the beast and let him speak his mind without shame.

[@chancebiddle523]

christian def been in the gym

[@01forest]

hans is desperate. hikaru is literally the most florida man human on the planet.

[@gus8696]

Hans is at least trying to do something about his pseudo-ban, and he’s coming up with fun ideas for that. I like it a lot

[@lavendergooms7958]

Fabi has a mature adult’s take on drama, as usual.

[@bevs9995]

Fabi still looks like a teenager lol

[@FocusProj]

Nice. Fabi in Romania. He has to eat sarmale

[@ladeedaa]

Don't forget to checkmate that 👍 button everyone!!!!!! ❤

[@amar-vt6wr]

Nice cake christian

[@jorgemontero6384]

Cross your legs Christian!

[@patheticpear2897]

"Couldn't be further from the truth" and "Pretty unbiased" are a contradiction.

[@NotQuiteFirst]

Cristian I know you read the comments - I'm genuinely curious, how often do you get a haircut? At least once a week, right?

[@rickdynes]

WHY do people think that C-SQUARED has to blow up their relationship with Hikaru just because of this incident. HN screwed up but he didn't commit infamnia. He didn't commit a freaking FELONY. High-level chess players are often Head-Cases; You're simply going to have to roll with that OR you're going to make Enemies with HALF the freaking Community.... They are being diplomatic. Please consider the super small aquarium-ecosystem they have to Exist in...

[@kennethjackson9449]

HOT

[@golendorfjules1838]

Where to start with these two goofs behind a mic. I've said it in another video, this podcast had the potential to because very successful but it looks like the most incorrect decision are taken every single time. Fabi, I have massive respect for your chess, Christian, I have okayish respect for your ability to handle a big touch screen tv and following stockfish lines. Apart from that I have 0 respect for you guys, this podcast is bad quality product. I'm not talking about the video or audio quality, unfortunately, but the topics and their depths being discussed. The topic being discussed are almost always too old events when you release the podcast and with you guys having absolutely no balls, you just barely talk real stuff, you're just doing late journalism. Seems fabi doesn't have time for this when he is trying to be the best chess player, he doesn't look very focused. And yeah, here once again you didnt present the facts correctly or all of them (naka vs firou) and you're saying it's just trash talk, stopping to play the match in this case isn't trash talk it's against the rules, insulting alireza and his fatheres is completely disrespectful. If you have conflict of interest with hikaru then don't even try to bother bullshitting us