Brenneke Black Magic Magnum 12ga Gel Test

[@6Sally5]

THIS is the kind of IV8888 we like to see!

[@mitchellnelms7572]

Agreed.

[@MrCeall]

Very happy for a vid like this yes.

[@Z7d3nR4]

Yep. I was just about to say that.

[@DronesUnder2A]

This is their 2nd video on these I believe.

[@rossgreenzweig]

Finally these videos again!!!

[@cgsimons1187]

Thanks for making this video. The Black Magic Magnum looks like it would work very well and save someone the expense of buying a 45-70 rifle for relatively close-range defense from large dangerous animals.

[@jakudahsymba5453]

Been shooting Brenneke slugs for over 30yrs. Started out when they were Brenneke Rottweil. Would commonly get passthroughs on Minnesota deer. Best one was a 20ga 3”. It broke both shoulders and went through a 4” fence post. The shot was at 50yds and the buck was 276lbs dressed

[@robsorgdrager8477]

These are my last ditch timber gibbon round. I used to do a lot of hunting ( I live in Minnesota) and our deer are not what I'd call small. I had a ten point not recognize I put a 30/30 through it...well into it. The fact you got pass through and trimmed a fence post is really good.

[@peetsnort]

In the olden days of the 70s we used to roll 50 gallon empty around the quarry where we learnt how to shot. I really miss my single shot baikal with it's black chrome lined barrel

[@y-u-do-yo]

Daaaaaaaang when u shot it, it broke BOTH your shoulders????thats Fkn nuts

[@resandor]

​​@@y-u-do-yoso your that guy eh

[@y-u-do-yo]

​@@resandor😁

[@ItsMeMarioJr]

"When it leaves that barrel, it's got a lot of hate behind it."

[@ihcterra4625]

It arrives quickly and in a bad mood.

[@middleagedbaldguy6774]

I saw these reviewed a few years ago and picked up a couple of hundred. They are just nuts. Saying the slug is a lot harder than a normal lead slug is no joke. These things will punch through barriers and brush like its not there. Recoil impulse is pretty spicey for a 160lb fella like myself so follow ups get a little tougher but you will probably only need one unless its a T-rex coming at you. HIGHLY recommend.

[@raw7s784]

what's the slug made of?

[@brianhoxworth3881]

I assume it a lead alloy

[@middleagedbaldguy6774]

@@raw7s784 lead alloy. They are hard.

[@rdf4315]

This particular slug can you use it in any 12 gauge or is it just specific 12 gauge that can use it?

[@graywind4326]

@@rdf4315Any 12 gauge. But improved cylinder choke gives best results.

[@j.p.4541]

Eric & Chad, great job guys, keep up the good work!

[@garyhill3369]

Absolutely devastating rounds. Great presentation, Eric. Thanks loads.

[@donaldderrick3639]

I bought my wife a Knoxx Spec Ops stock when they first came out and she loves shooting slugs in her 870 tactical 12 ga. Now that I Am nearing 70, I installed one on my 870 Marine Magnum 12 ga. Now back to shooting slugs myself. Can't wait to try these new slugs. Thanks for the video as always.

[@benwilson5893]

Those are my go to shotgun rounds here in remote Alaska. They work very well when they work. They unfortunately have issues with moisture corrupting them. Which is why my 12ga lives indoors for the most part.

[@AldoSchmedack]

Get some nail polish! Use around the primer pocket and edge of shell. That is all commercial ammo sealent is. Some reloading supply places sell it, arked up in cost, and relabled. Use a red or green or black so you can see it was done. Let dry, and you don't need much. Won't hurt balistics. Makes em waterproof for a long, long time under water.

[@frustratedmajority851]

Yea I was just gonna say waterproof them. Alot of 12g shells have that issue. Easy fix

[@johnchandler1687]

​@@AldoSchmedackI actually do that when I reload rifle rounds for long term storage. Nail polish around primer and bullet crimp.

[@Urbicide]

Eric, when you shot the jell blocks, you are starting off at a slightly higher elevation than the blocks, then you are shooting into the blocks at a downward angle. You would nee to either raise the blocks up to the level of the shotgun, or get down a bit lower so the barrel is in a straight line with the blocks. Hope this makes sense. Keep up the good work!

[@erroneous6947]

There’s a federal 3” shot shell I like. 1@1/8th ounce slug at 1600 ft/sec. Been reliable for me over the years.

[@landenx]

Eric you’re a dang legend man!

[@deadletter19]

His numbers are down… time to get back to the fundamentals.

[@rex8958]

@@deadletter19very very true. Glad he’s going back to his older style like this

[@K0NFZ3D]

Throw back ep. This is what got me into this channel.

[@user-ty3vd8qr5j]

My dad used Brenneke slugs back when they were black paper cartridges. He made some incredible shots with them and his Ithaca Deerslayer and rifle sights. I recall a magazine article back in the 70s where a hunter on Safari was relaxing bird hunting and met a Cape Buffalo with attitude. He had 5 Brenneke slugs and used them to take down the Buff.

[@Ja2808R]

The OG’s know Eric loved the “Bear on the Box.” Always been my favorites through the years.

[@rex8958]

Everytime I see them in the store I think of Eric. Suckers are spendy though

[@howardb.728]

Nice work mate -😀 The old smooth-bore shottie - what a wonderful thing it is - for most of us, is all me need. Cheers.

[@roquri]

Tried the Brenneke K.O. slugs, and those friggin rock. Nutso accurate too.

[@patmancrowley8509]

Short and sweet and did it complete! Thanks, Eric, Chad and crew!

[@AppRemb]

Good to see some old school content again

[@robsorgdrager8477]

You did this before. The torso was amazing. Blew the spine out and took the 4x4 post it was strapped to as well. This round is like a honey Badger, don't care if you have armor on, your gonna die.

[@ShizawnSanders]

Not fast enough to get through level 3 or higher armor. Backface deformation from this would give someone a real bad day though.

[@robsorgdrager8477]

@@ShizawnSanders with the armor on this round caused so much damage that it was fatal. Them alphabet boys don't want us to have an AR with a 30 round mag and brace but I don't think they've looked into how powerful a 12 ga actually is.

[@ShizawnSanders]

@@robsorgdrager8477 the government doesn't know their head from their ass. Listening to the President try to talk about ANYTHING firearms related is just stand up comedy. All they know is they don't want us to have ANY of it.

[@oldschooldude8370]

The trauma alone would liquify organs and crush bone.

[@robsorgdrager8477]

@@oldschooldude8370 absolutely. The ballistic torso showed massive blunt force to the liver , lungs and it crushed the heart. I know it's not a one to one but I promise you the amount of energy these rounds will dump is god level. There are videos out there of people taking big brown bear with these and straight up knocks the dirt and moisture off the bear , the bear drops on the spot. No running, no moans no pausing....the slug hits and the bear immediately stops functioning. And it knocks a ring of moisture vapor off it's head , shoulders and back . Like I said before, wear all the armor you want, it won't help here.

[@Borophyll]

I was shopping for these last night…. Thank you for showing that these aren’t just a regular slug that cost too much. Which seems to be what some folks think.

[@davidlee8551]

Thank you for the demonstration. Quick, CLEAR, to the point!

[@rburrows7786]

Yes. These are the videos we want

[@CrazyKingJammy]

There needs to be a skit with this ammo. "What kind of ammo is that? Birdshot?" *flashes the bear box* and que ALLLLLlllll the reactions.

[@terryboone3333]

I would like to see some testing on some of the 10 m.m. bullets that are made for bear protection.

[@sam15482]

Eric has gotten pretty good at the informative ramble. He moved right through that info-mercial about these terrors.

[@igotfriendsinlowplaces2971]

I carry these slugs in my 1301. where I live in Montana there are lots of Griz, wolves and moose. They also work well at immobilizing vehicles

[@Apprentice_of_the_Leonine]

Yes, I can imagine one of these could pop a big V8 engine block like the cops did with 10GA Ithaca Roadblocker's back in the day.

[@rms0194]

Been watching IV8888 for years now the videos always so entertaining and fun going to buy some of these slugs to go goofing around great video man !

[@davidblanchard5252]

If I can find them, I'll purchase a couple boxes in reserve for emergencies. Thank you Eric ! Now I know what to carry in Bear Country.

[@davidjaskiewicz3461]

Interesting video on a dynamic slug! Like the old school stuff like this. Keep it up!

[@damienroser8004]

My all time favorite slug was the Rottweil brenneke 12 gauge. Loved those beasts.

[@St4the]

Keep up the good work brother

[@The_Hi_Life]

I grew up shooting these Bad Boys out of my dad’s old recoil operated Ithaca automatic! 🥴 It’s what made me the man I am today…

[@innerlightfilms]

Could you imagine a home defense headshot? You'd be finding brain matter for years.

[@A_Brit]

Fantastic. I've been wanting to see this for a while. Hard to believe they kept going through all that gel.

[@RookieL021]

First time I learned about this slug from your KS7 video, I was like "man, one shot and the target got knocked over?"

[@SuperMarshall2009]

Love this kind of video - just like you used to do.

[@RockyMountainWest13]

Eric you’re looking great man! Keep up the hard work!

[@juliusb790]

Ive found they are more likely the fail to eject ( empty case stays in barrel when action cycled) than a regular Federal 1 1/4 oz 3" slug. (Mossberg 590)

[@basshunter428]

In order to keep the path of the slug in a central path you must make sure the shotgun is reasonably level with the gel blocks or slightly below depending on distance and projectile arc. Also, when charged by a bear (hopefully this never happens) drop to your knee (if at all possible) and fire as most misses occur in this scenario because the animal has past under the point of aim by the time the shot is fired. Bears can be lightning fast! Great video!

[@pete4633]

I didn’t know these were that awesome. I’ll have to grab some. Thanks brother

[@offworlder1]

When it bear country my Benelli M4 is always loaded with this ammo, and yes the recoil sucks but it’s what you have to do if you want to survive a grizzly. Rather have a messed up shoulder/arm then be mauled by the bear.

[@brianbota3265]

If you freeze the video at 4:07 it looks like the barrel is pointed slightly downward. I think this is why the trajectory of the round followed a downward path. Just my opinion.

[@graywind4326]

These shoot awesome groups out of my super nova tactical. Super hard slug and no wad to worry about.

[@edwardpate6128]

Looks good for Sasquatch defense!

[@rileyneufeld7001]

And to think this isn't even brenneke's most powerful option. They have the magnum crush which is 1.5 ounces @ 1600fps coming in at a bone crushing 3800ft pounds of energy! They don't recommend shooting them from bird guns due to the thin barrels getting potential damage.

[@terryjennings2356]

The slug went "downward" because that's the angle you were shooting. Raise the table to the same level as the gun and the slug will go straight through the block.

[@thecjlife7682]

WOW!!! amazing power out of that slug

[@adamthomson2873]

Informative and entertaining video. Thanks.

[@codyjenn8785]

Thank you for the awesome gun video brother

[@NetoperekMordulec]

Great show as always!

[@matthewfischer5340]

More of this content please!!!!

[@Stone762x51mm]

Love the content!!! As always!!! Love your informational videos in the gun room most! 😁

[@michaelmcmillan2776]

Surprised they are not more popular. They really do the job

[@SergeantExtreme]

Just looked up information on this slug from the Brenneke website itself. According to the website, the "tail" is supposed to break off in the wound in order to hold it open. That way, on the off chance that your initial shot isn't deadly, you'll bleed out the game via the open wound.

[@randymoats2059]

Always have some of these along when camping

[@jude.25]

Awesome video, Eric. As usual. :)

[@murphyzlaw13]

Never seen these before. Look like they might pave a damn highway. Semper Fi Devil Dogs

[@chloehennessey6813]

The guides here in Alaska that I have been out with all use Black Magic slugs in their shotguns.

[@lancewilson457]

That slug is a beast

[@danielmacdonald8358]

I love these videos thanks for taking the time to do this for us👍👍 oh on a different note could you try to do a ballistic gel test with the Lee 7/8 Oz slugs the kind you cast yourself. I think there's a difference between letting them cool on their own and quenching them. I think quenching them makes them harder not sure tho... thanks again

[@RonDevito]

Great one. The only slug more powerful in 12 ga is the Lightfield Commander 3.5" saboted slug. It produces over 5,000 fpe. They're very hard to get now. The recoil will leave you black and blue. Especially if you shoot a full box or three.

[@bradd8383]

Yeah i managed to score a few back in the day, they shot super accurate in the 835 ultimag rifled barrel. I never seen such impact devastation

[@l.a.3887]

Some fantastic slugs great video thanks keep up the good fight 👍

[@AndyOamo]

I shot the biggest buck that I've ever got with these. Shot it facing me through the chest, exploded it's heart and it came out of its rear quarter. The deer literally piled up right where I shot it and didn't move at all.

[@huntgar]

We were off the beaten path this weekend and HooooWweee you bet we had slugs and bear spray in case something wasn't dissuaded by canine backup🦅💨

[@Allen338LM]

I wish I could find some to buy I've been searching for years honestly and can never find them in stock

[@throwaway633]

Reminds me of when you lit up Rosco the “alien” ballistic dummy with them

[@jamestboehm6450]

I've used their flat faced slugs for deer for over 20 yrs. Properly placed deer dont go very far, even from a 20 ga. Big hole in, devastating damage in between and big hole out.

[@erroneous6947]

So is it hardcast lead (10% antimony) or is it another lead alloy? Or maybe non lead? You’ve got me wondering now.

[@michaelinman8]

Yes!!! We need a 12 gage slug test. I have a bear issue and I don’t think a 357 mag is enough and forget .308.

[@ChesterWortham]

Forget 308? Why

[@glbwoodsbum2567]

​@@ChesterWortham Because he has a 12 gauge.

[@kingdarkem]

I wish I could get these in a 3d print file.... Cant find them any more. I loved them for deer season and were my go to.

[@maxrunge7599]

I wanna see someone run one of those through a Shockwave lol

[@Spartan536]

@Iraqveteran8888, Could you also test the Winchester PDX1 12 Defender Segmented Slug in Ballistics Gel as well? That is my go to home defense round. I selected it based on the ballistics testing videos from ShootingTheBull410. It's shot out of a Benelli SuperNova Tactical.

[@fwod1867]

Eric, i think you love the push the Brenneke gives your shoulder. You shoot the Bearstuff a lot 🤔😂

[@edwardsheridan9962]

Hi great video can you tell me what is different between a super black eagle v super black eagle 3

[@Letterellah]

Brenneke slugs are high anatomy lead ….meaning it’s very difficult for them to break apart, I’ve shot them in oak logs with almost 100% weight retention….a standard rifled slug are no match in barrier penetration

[@Puazy_7051]

How do these compare to the Brenneke special forces maximum barrier penetrator?

[@whomagoose6897]

Brenneke slugs are great, but, can be hard to find. An alternative to the awesome Brenneke slugs are Fiochi slugs. What sets both of these slugs apart from the crowd is the antimony. Antimony is added to lead to harden the lead. The more antimony the harder the slug gets. The Special Forces slug from Brenneke is so hard that it will go through an engine block. I found fantastic results with the Winchester PDX-12. Also hard to find. A one ounce slug with three 00-buckshot following the slug. Fiochi has the Buck & Ball slug. A one ounce round ball slug followed by three 00-buckshot. Some not often heard of slug options.

[@DrQuagmire1]

I don't know man, i've fired quite a few Slug brands, Federal, Winchester, and Remington to name a few. I haven't tried the Fiocchi or Brenneke brands before, but the Remington Sluggers clocking in at 1800-FPS is quite brutal and bruise your shoulder if you fire enough of them and aren't used to them

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Thank you. Great slug.

[@travhammer]

Yup. The vid I was waiting for. tnx

[@Exhumed86]

Amazing video, those magnum slugs are so damn powerful!! 🤩🤩

[@KMondy]

Fine video kind sir!

[@sealove79able]

A great interesting video IV8888.What is your opinion about the triple barreled shotguns?What kind of honey do you harvest?Have a good one.

[@DasGoodSoup]

Should try the brass ballistic machinist slugs

[@NeglegentDischarge]

wish you had the 3.5" shell as well!

[@GearsAndGuns]

You need to try a seismic slugs they are 2 oz or 2.5 oz 1200 grain

[@rjw261984]

Really good results. Rounds are "working themselves down" because you are shooting at a downward angle.

[@rickhunt3183]

that's something every experienced shooter knows. I'm surprised he didn't know. The bullet goes where the barrel is pointed. Simple..... stay safe...

[@PianoMan347]

Would love to FIND this ammo somewhere. Been looking since before COVID.

[@Steven-js8yk]

Eric, you need to 'fess up and just admit that this is your favorite 12ga load. That completely 😊 on your face is giving you away Brother

[@sealove79able]

What do you do with those used gel blocks?How do you dispose of them?Have a blast IV.

[@thopsonm35]

Hi Eric, great video. I would like to see what does with the ballistic gel fiocchi black mamba 9mm luger.I'm from Europe and I can't carry HP ammunition. greetings from the land of stribog

[@Zach_D]

Gotta love a 12 gauge slug.

[@brenthamby2155]

Thanks, Eric!

[@gregorymceaddy8884]

Shotgun shell tech has highly evolved... with power comes recoil management.. the idea is you don't want to have multiple follow ups

[@MrSymbolic7]

That's an awesome slug !

[@rustleshackleford1553]

This is the slug I love to hate. I absolutely love the sheer carnage they create, BUT...the after effect on your body (shoulder) will last for days. "HATEFUL" is definitely the best word to describe the slug!

[@RickyJr46]

Bruise, or it didn't happen!

[@spcpitts]

Not that my opinion matters much....but I would like to see more of these shorter "test" style videos.

[@Hellebarde1351]

Awesome! Now you have to do a brenneke magnum crush ballistic gel test

[@ItalianBC1]

Favorite Vid of the Year

[@glockfanboy4927]

Badass medicine for critters n creeps!!! WOW game changer for sure!!!😮👍😏