Brigham Young's Hostile Takeover: How He Seized Control of the Mormon Church

[@GeorgeDemetz]

Since Joseph translated the aforementioned scriptures, he was well aware of the priesthood ban and made this statement: "The curse is not yet taken off the sons of Canaan, neither will it be until it is affected by as great a power as caused it to come." Joseph Smith. April 7, 1836!!!

[@99blackbirds]

I heard that the whole Brigham Young sounding or looking like Joseph Smith, the whistle, etc. story didn't arise until many years later, and then it took off. They found no current records or journal entries of anyone talking about it during the event. I mean if it did tuly happen someone would have written about it..... not some story years later. ...(this is awesome thank you guys. Im a big Jospeh SMith fan and this confirms so much!!!)

[@warrenallen4200]

Among the many pearls of great price that Jesus blessed us with, Jesus (on several occasions) advised that “By their fruits, ye shall know them”. All of us believe this sage advice… in theory. But in practical application, so many justify and excuse bad or even satanic behavior, even trying to merge good and evil to make sense of incongruent belief (which is called cognitive dissonance). So here are the indisputable facts; Brigham Young married and lived with 56 women ( one of which was 15 years old when he was 44 years old), was divorced 10 times, had 4 wives who disappeared without a trace under suspicious circumstances, had 57 children (40 of which were estranged from him by the time of his death). Now there is a righteous man. This is the character traits God wants in a prophet of God!

[@bewitched3912]

@@warrenallen4200 yeah, giving off creepy Epstein vibes

[@user-tt1lq2xl2s]

@@warrenallen4200 he

[@user-tt1lq2xl2s]

Yes, he was a very bad man-hungry for power and authority! Plus, a sex crazed individual. He tried to excuse himself by lying about Joseph Smith. He doctored papers, and he murdered people who opposed him. The Church is still true, the Book of Mormon is true, and Satan will do all that he can to destroy it. If you will look at the Church as a whole, it puts forth mighty good fruit! Mormon people are as a whole-wonderful people! They have strong families, work hard-do service for others. Bishops and Stake presidents, work for free. They believe in the Savior, and strive to be like him. Satan works hard to bring down goodness, and this Church is good. Some rough roads, some not so good starts, but overall good!

[@hopeinHim5160]

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[@Commenter2121]

I love what you called out about using the Lords name in vain, so many people don’t understand this. The church continues to do this by blaming the priesthood/temple ban on God.

[@GeorgeDemetz]

From my studies I am well aware that Joseph Smith and other prophets up until as late as 1935, but these were inspired exceptions such as Christ made for the Canaanite woman after initially REFUSING her as the 15th chapter of Matthew records! Continued...

[@GeorgeDemetz]

You don't need to be sorry to me, you need to be sorry to God who ordained Christ as a holy priest forever, the same priesthood that you don't even believe in!!!

[@GeorgeDemetz]

Yes, I realize that, but as I said before, the church had growing pains, but according to many that were there when Sidney and Brigham spoke, there was a great spiritual experience and revelation that Brigham Young should be the prophet. Brigham Young had his faults and was stubborn as a mule, but that was God's announced. Also he has a bad rap with this younger generation that suffers from gross ignorance. Continued...

[@topbrent]

The "transfiguration" tale of Brigham is an apocryphal late addition.

[@melanieaveryeasthope3980]

My great great grandmother was there and said it happened. I think she may have been victim of group think

[@jamesbaldwin7676]

@@topbrent over 100 people witnessed and wrote about the event.

[@topbrent]

@@jamesbaldwin7676 late addition "memories" and groupthink.

[@jamesbaldwin7676]

@@topbrent it's true, most are late editions and hearsay, but a few were contemporary accounts (personal journal entries prior to 1851.) Something unexplainable did seem to have occurred. What we know for sure is that after August 8th and the meeting, Sidney Rigdon immediately withdrew his claims to leadership, while Brigham Young became the defacto Church leader.

[@AntonioAFelizJr]

​@@melanieaveryeasthope3980 Antonio, here. What was your grandmother's age when she first stated that testimony? More importantly, what was your grandmother's age at the time of the LDS folklore event? Blessings 🙌

[@GeorgeDemetz]

I do not want to hurt anyone's feelings here, but there is so much ignorance in this video that I just don't have time to address them all, but the LDS church is the one true restored church of Christ upon the earth as part of the "restitution of ALL things." continued...

[@ninja6567]

Actually, Oliver cowdery in the history of the church books states that the only way you can become an apostle is if you have seen the resurrected savior. And he states that you need to continue until you receive the second comforter.

[@GeorgeDemetz]

Yes, this is the only church with the priesthood authority; Did John the Baptist, Peter, James, John, Elijah, and even Jesus Christ come to the LDS church or another church! The other churches don't even claim that!!! Continued...

[@BehindTheVeilOfficial]

Well the fact is we don't even believe in the priesthood so this argument carries no weight with us. To know our feelings on the priesthood we have actually done an entire video on it. Feel free to check that out!

[@GeorgeDemetz]

Ephesians 4:18!!! The worst enemies if Christ are those that receive the gospel and fall away like a dog returning to his vomit it the sow returning to it's wallowing in the mire, and Satan takes advantage of these evil apostates and uses the and inspired them to crucify Christ afresh and copy Satan being a accuser of our brethren! But, do they realize this? No, because their hearts are hardened and their eyes blinded!!! Maybe you two should try to counsel God and tell Him that He was wrong for having the senior apostle to inherit the mantle! Meanwhile you can help Satan and wallow in the mire more by digging up all the dirt you can find against the prophets and what their enemies say about them!!!

[@kristinecase8602]

Joseph was not a polygamist.

[@BehindTheVeilOfficial]

I respectfully disagree. Just look at Familysearch. You can see all of the women he was married and sealed to. And what about everything in the Joseph Smith Papers that say he did practice polygamy. Feel free to check out our video on polygamy, and if we got something wrong, please tell us and give us your source of accurate information. Here is the link to that video, I look forward to hearing your feedback - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nquok4SNl9OmsNU

[@allthingsarepossiblethruchrist]

​. Family search is part of the LDS church. The marriages listed are after JS death... The temple in Nauvoo wasn't completed and never accepted by God. In fact it was burned and a tornado took the rest of it out. God was not pleased with that temple! The Kirtland temple is still standing. Humm.

[@natles9880]

Perfect guys! Thank you for your work!

[@Commenter2121]

Fascinating video, it certainly wasn’t the clean transfer of power that LDS members are taught. I’m surprised there is no mention of Samuel Smith though. Joseph indicated that if he and Hyrum were killed, Samuel would be their successor. Oddly, and conveniently, Samuel passed away under suspicious circumstances within less than a month of the martyrdom, and before all of the twelve returned to Nauvoo.

[@GeorgeDemetz]

What was restored? ALL things as Peter prophesied in Acts 3:19-21! This includes the quorum of the 12, the foundation of the church, the laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost, just as it was done in the Church Christ set up! No other church even does this ordinance!!! And, then she wants to complain that the LDS church claims this authority! The early church claimed the same thing!!! If you two ignorant souls think that their is other church which is restored exactly like the primitive church, and where Elijah would return to, etc., etc., etc., then you name it!!! All this video does is cherry pick things, any negative things that you can find from enemies of the church or prophets and throw every negative thing you can throw against the wall to see what will stick! That is just what Satan, "the accuser of our brethren" does!!! But you know what you have not done? You have not done or stated even one fact that would show that the LDS church is not the true restored church of Jesus Christ!!! But, you have a lot of personal attacks, that's all!!! Continued...

[@thedailydump7407]

Thanks for your research. I had never heard Emma’s statement of why she supported William Marx.

[@GldnClaw]

This is top-notch historical fiction! Excellent work making it believable enough to be plausible, but still within the realm of creative endeavor.

[@BehindTheVeilOfficial]

You say what we are saying is fiction. Then, you are more than welcome to provide me with proof that what we are saying is incorrect and provide your source for accurate information.

[@edwardjohnson6629]

William Marks deserves to be on that list also since he was the only one to receive the secret anointing directly from Joseph Smith before BY or anyone else. He was also the Stake President.

[@LydeaAutry]

Im a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I saw the title of your video and decided to ask this question, what are your sources for Brigham Young to be hostile towards being Prophet of the church after Joseph Smith’s martyrdom?

[@BehindTheVeilOfficial]

All our sources are on each slide throughout the video.

[@GeorgeDemetz]

Why don't you try to tell the whole truth instead of cherry picking this or statements by enemies to make the church or a prophet look bad?!? Tell something like this: Yes! We do claim to be the only church to have authority! Did God appear to another other than Joseph to begin the restoration?!? Did John the Baptist come to another church to give them authority of the aaronic priesthood?!? Did Peter James or John come to another church to give them authority of the Melchezidek priesthood?!? Does any other church claim this?!? THINK!!!

[@BehindTheVeilOfficial]

Even IF these were cherry-picked, that does not excuse the actions of these men. The fact that terrible things took place in the stories we go over in all of our videos is awful. And I don't mean to be rude, but I frankly don't care that you guys claim to be the true church or claim the different priesthoods. These men did terrible things, and that is what we are talking about. Yes, this channel is one sided, we are not here to defend the church. We are here to bring to light the terrible actions that took place that the church tries to hide. I don't care about Peter, James, and John "restoring" the priesthood. We are focused only on the bad actions of the church that have been buried. If we get information wrong, please provide proof that our information is incorrect, and we will correct it. But just saying that you are a part of the one true church does not excuse the actions of these men. And maybe it's true that no other Church's claim those priesthoods, but what does that have to do with Brigham Young taking over after Joseph. But feel free to keep commenting and arguing because that looks really good on the analytics for the video and helps it get shown to more people.

[@rebecca4770]

Another understanding of 'taking the name of God in vain' in addition to what you shared - a leader who sets themselves up as a intercessorary, or representative of God to the people so the people don't seek God personally but instead look to their leaders for validation, direction, and even forgiveness. Basically getting in the way of people trying to sincerely seek God.

[@aimeefriedman822]

PERSONALLY, IM DISGUSTED THAT A UNIVERSITY IS NAMED AFTER BRIGHAM YOUNG WHETHER I'M A MORMON OR NOT. IT'S GROSS.

[@MaticesMormones]

Very informative!

[@edgarsnake2857]

The 'power and authority' piece of Mormonism is present in all religions, and in most organizations. If there's a god, you would think it would be clearer who the prophets are.

[@KathyStrickland-nh9vx]

It's up to Christians to exercise discernment and most don't.

[@bewitched3912]

​​@@KathyStrickland-nh9vxmy magic 8 ball has more discernment that the average Mormon and all of the Q15, after Janet Russin the psychic medium, was giving supposed spiritual messages throu Nephi, to Jesus and back 😅 Where can a gal with a Magic 8 Ball obtain one of these tax exempt advice jobs??! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@hopeinHim5160]

No , this is more cultic.

[@terrikennedy3088]

The entire LDS mess is built off pride, self-righteousness, and eternal lost. That Mirmons think their Bible is the Bible invites hellfire. LDS are blocked from finding the true Jesus of the Bible because of its de-contextualization by their leaders. Taking the name of the Lord in vain deals with the sin God demonstrates least willing to forgive: IDOLARTY. Idolatry is what the doctrine of the LDS is based in. The necessity for rituals ended with Jesus and is prohibited in Collosians 2:14. If it 's not of God, then who? Satan. Jesus Christ "Blotted out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way and nailed to his cross." Colosians 2:14. Paul continues to explain that the power of Jesus, effectuated the end of following do's and dont's, as the standard for righteousness. Spiritual power is free andvooen to anybody, church affiliation has zero to do with the doctrine of salvation. The Mormon's are bound inside a potent and scary lie. Belief in Jesus Christ himself, is the only source of having your sin cancelled. It's called grace. With this the Holy Spirit takes up residence on you. No priest of authority needed. Jesus is God's final authority. The Bible is authority.

[@user-tt1lq2xl2s]

You do not know that Joseph Smith practiced plural marriage-Brigham Young, yes! Do not put down Joseph Smith!!

[@BehindTheVeilOfficial]

I respectfully disagree. Just look at FamilySearch and you can see all of the women he was married and sealed to. And what about everything in the Joseph Smith Papers that say he did practice polygamy. Feel free to check out our video on polygamy and if we got something wrong please tell us and give us your source of accurate information. Here is the link to that video, I look forward to hearing your feedback - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nquok4SNl9OmsNU

[@user-tt1lq2xl2s]

@@BehindTheVeilOfficial Yes, look who said they were married to Joseph Smith. Brigham Young’s wives. You don’t think they would say whatever Brigham Young wanted them to? There were never any children conceived by Joseph! This all came forth, changed in the Joseph Smith Pages, after they went to Salt Lake City. Years after Joseph was killed! If you look at the original papers, there were sentences and paragraphs crossed out, and put in the sidelines, omit! All done by Brigham Young!

[@BehindTheVeilOfficial]

Why would Brigham Young do that? And not all of the wives FamilySearch showed Joseph Smith was married to were Brigham's wives. But again what reason would Brigham young have to do that. Also what about D&C section 132? That was written by Joseph Smith and parts of it were to convince Emma to go along with Polygamy. I would love to see your source of information that proves that Brigham Young changed all of these things and the reason he had for doing so. I am totally open to feedback, but I would rather see proof than hear speculation.

[@personofinterest8731]

Don't be ridiculous. Call it what you like, at least 30 women thought they were married to JS 'in very deed'.

[@allthingsarepossiblethruchrist]

​@@personofinterest8731 after JS was dead fir overv20 years. Most were already married to Brigham Young, Heber C Kimball.

[@NancyBrown-xw8hg]

There are 140 different accounts of the transfiguration

[@allthingsarepossiblethruchrist]

None if them are contemporary

[@NancyBrown-xw8hg]

@allthingsarepossiblethruchrist Several were, The Transfiguration of Brigham Young is the most documented event in Church History. We currently have access to 141 accounts of the event. The number of individuals who recorded the event totals to 125. Sixty-one of these are first-hand documents, including personal journals, autobiographies and direct testimonies chronicled in Church publications. The remaining 63 are biographical works by family members or historical compilations.... Witnesses recorded their testimonies from various locations: some still living in Nauvoo, some throughout Utah ranging from the northern to the southernmost tip, some into Idaho and the Arizona territories, and some locales as remote as the island of Tubuai. Any expert in analyzing witness testimony would tell you that it would be IMPOSSIBLE to have a consistent story with that many people and spread over continents for that length of time if it were just a “myth” or “folk lore”.... Many records did not survive the trek west and so people had to re-record their experiences later. I am sure that getting to a barren desert wasteland and having to build homes and plant food for survival made record keeping a lot more difficult!” Kimberly Watson Smith." D. Michael Quinn, sums up the immediate response: There were contemporary references to Young’s “transfiguration.” The Times and Seasons reported that just before the sustaining vote at the afternoon session of the August meeting, “every Saint could see that Elijah’s mantle had truly fallen upon the ‘Twelve.’” Although the church newspaper did not refer to Young specifically for this “mantle” experience, on 15 November 1844 Henry and Catharine Brooke wrote from Nauvoo that Young “favours Br Joseph, both in person, manner of speaking more than any person ever you saw, looks like another.” Five days later Arza Hinckley referred to “Brigham Young on [w]hom the mantle of the prophet Joseph has fallen.” The diary of William Burton, a missionary who returned to Nauvoo in the spring of 1845, may refer to residents talking about the mantle experience. In May 1845, he recorded events in his diary that had occurred during his absence from Nauvoo: [That which] had taken place during the time that I was out on my mission;-that grevious and hard to be borne. This was the Martyrdom of the Prophet and Seer, and Patriarch, whose voices I could not hear, declaring the truths of Heaven. But their [Joseph’s and Hyrum’s] places were filled by others much better than I once was supposed they could have been. The spirit of Joseph appeared to rest upon Brigham.52 Burton’s use of the past tense-“the spirit of Joseph appeared to rest upon Brigham”-in the context of his discussion of events that had transpired in his absence is significant. If Burton was referring by these words to the mantle experience, he must have heard of the event from others who had been at the meetings. If this was the case, at that early date at least some Nauvoo residents were discussing the incident."

[@lincolnsheri]

I appreciate the content, but I find it difficult to listen when it is delivered in an accusatory tone. Please change the tone to be more like reporting facts, rather than opinion. The woman reader has more of a factual tone, but the male reader sounds accusatory. Your channel would be more successful if you improve upon the tone in your delivery.

[@scottandkylie6386]

I know that you are spot on about BY because he was a possessed Narcissist and had mental illness! However I know that you are both completely wrong about JS! Joseph was a true prophet of God and was not into polygamy and I have a fair bit of evidence to prove it!! I did screen shot some of the quotes that I did not have, so thanks for that!

[@BehindTheVeilOfficial]

I'm glad that we agree on Brigham Young. and I would love to see the evidence and sources you have to prove us wrong that Joseph Smith was actually a good person. Just look at the official gospel topics essay on the church's website that directly call out that Joseph Smith was a polygamist. This is direct quote form the church's website "After receiving a revelation commanding him to practice plural marriage, Joseph Smith married multiple wives and introduced the practice to close associates." I would love to see what source you have that contradicts the official church's website. www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/joseph-smith-and-plural-marriage?lang=eng

[@pjones1403]

May I also ask of what denomination of Christianity the two of you belong, if you belong to any?

[@bewitched3912]

@@pjones1403 does anyone need to claim Christianity since it is a Roman propaganda to seperate the global population from their money at the low, low price of ten percent on the gross 😝

[@patriciahisoire5753]

Behind the Evil. Same lettering.

[@pjones1403]

Expound! Please!

[@debbiedonovan8362]

Amazing, can we interview you???

[@BehindTheVeilOfficial]

That is something that we could look into. You can email us at [e-mail] and we can discuss it.

[@AlbertJLouie]

IS JESUS AND SATAN BROTHERS? In sharp contrast to your Mormon theology, the Biblical witness is clear and convincing: Jesus is the ETERNAL CREATOR GOD (John 1; Colossians 1; Hebrews 1; Revelation 1). Paul explicitly taught that Jesus is the CREATOR of all, including the angelic realm to which Satan belongs (Colossians 1:15-16 cf. John 1:3). Jesus is thus Satan's Creator, not HIS spirit brother. COLOSSIANS 1:15-16 (NKJV) [Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the FIRSTBORN over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through HIM and for HIM.

[@bewitched3912]

@@AlbertJLouie.. and Roman mythological dogma to tax the globe by 10%. You fell for it

[@hopeinHim5160]

Thank you for the Biblical Scripture. Amen. Jesus Christ is God the Son. 🙏❤️‍🔥✝️

[@jawnatutorow]

Something to consider, 1 Corinthians 8:6 tells us we have one God, the Father(YHWH) and one lord(master) Jesus. Jesus tells us plainly also, that his Father is the only God in John 17:3,20:17 John 12:44-50 explains John 1 Deut 18:18-19, Acts 3:18-26 tells us plainly who Jesus is. Colossians 1 is about new Jerusalem not Genesis 1, start from verse 9 While I agree the Mormons have some strange theology about pretty much everything.... There are too many Christians who also seem to follow church and not the Bible. There is only one God (total) and YHWH, the Father is He. Jesus is a man prophesied about from the beginning who fulfilled prophecy and died, and whom YHWH raised up from the dead and glorified him to be our king and high priest in the kingdom to come, new Jerusalem. I say this with encouragement to read all of scripture in context. May YHWH bless you!

[@crisantocabrerajr.3508]

Money money money sell sell sell hahaha repent

[@PETERReynolds-no5wd]

What a lot of twaddle. Brigham Young was the Lord's anointed there's no doubt about it. You'll probably have repented before you face the bar but if not check me out I love to see you explain away the circumstances of your reality when you get there!!

[@AntonioAFelizJr]

This woman doesn't have a correct understanding of the facts on the hierarchical levels of authority. For example, she is conflating succession of different organizations of the institutionalized Priesthood Councils out of which the various legal incorporated organizations throughout the early decades of the whole Restoration Movement begun through Joseph Smith, Jr. Another example is that every stake president is called by The Council of The First Presidency and is supervised through The Council of The Twelve Apostles. This example of how little she understands about the hierarchical levels of governance of the Priesthood from which any and all of the organizations that have been legally established by the Priesthood Councils to operate legally under the corporation laws of the United States of America is revealing. In fact, the revelations on the Priesthood in the Doctrine and Covenants clearly say, "..the Quorum of The Twelve Apostles is equal in authority the Quorum of The First Presidency of The Church. This clearly says that, in the organized institutionalized church, both are equal in authority. This Priesthood principle is the authoritative basis for the succession of The Quorum of The Twelve Apostles after the two Smith brothers' 1844 assassination. To be clear, I've seen all of the original documents in the course of my employment at The Church Offices in Salt Lake City, Utah, for myself. I'm not saying that the reports of a "transfiguration" are false or true. From our third and fourth party perspectives, I don't see how much anything can be confirmed as mere folklore or history. It's a matter of each one's personal faith. Blessings 🙌

[@BehindTheVeilOfficial]

I apologize if we got some information incorrect in this video. We do try our best to provide accurate information. Could you provide your source for the hierarchical levels of authority and how they work? We would love to read over it to ensure we have accurate information in the future.

[@jamesbaldwin7676]

As President of the Quorum of the Twelve, Brigham Young was the next in line as Joseph had already bestowed all the Keys of the Kingdom on the Twelve. Brigham only had to ascert this fact and himself over those who had no legitimate right or claim to Church leadership.

[@psmith535]

God never called any prophets in this way. It’s not how Joseph was called. God simply did not call a replacement for Joseph after he was murdered. The same as when the church fell into apostasy after the crucifixion of Christ. No one was called. But most importantly, God would have never called the man behind the murders of Joseph and Hyrum to lead the church and be his one true prophet.

[@xenuburger7924]

Brother Joseph actually bestowed all the Keys to the Kingdom to you. Enjoy them.

[@psmith535]

@@xenuburger7924 By the way, the 12 apostles were not the hierarchy of the church. Their job was to go throughout the world and spread the gospel. Basically, they were missionaries. The hierarchy of the church was the High Council, and the highest person in authority over the High Council was the president. At the prophet Joseph‘s death the president of the High Council was William Marks, he was Emma Smith’s choice to lead the church after Joseph’s death. She specifically stated that the 12 apostles had no authority in governing the affairs of the church. Obviously, Emma would know this because she was constantly in the presence of Joseph throughout the restoration process. Brigham Young was a very shady individual, and he, along with the other shady apostles, were able to create a man-made succession that gave them man-made authority. Thus hijacking the Lord‘s church after orchestrating the murders of Joseph and Hyrum. Yes, it all fits together.

[@bewitched3912]

😂as if God floated down to give instructions! Jesus hasn't returned and yet these Q15 pretend Jesus lives in an apartment in the upper floors of the "great and spacious buildings" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jamesbaldwin7676]

@@psmith535 Brigham Young was on the East Coast seeking political support for Joseph Smith's presidential candidantcy, when Joseph & Hyrum were shot in June 1844. Brigham didn't even learn about it until July. Moreover over 100 people witnessed and wrote of a "miraculous transformation" of Brigham Young into Joseph Smith, at a meeting to discuss his replacement.

[@kennethharrison4847]

Wrong the lord called brigam Young was called of the lord.. good greif you don't know you weren't their.

[@BehindTheVeilOfficial]

You are correct, we weren't there. But we are reading journals and accounts from people who were there. And you weren't there either so how would you know that he was called of God?

[@azstate94]

Please say you’re being facetious…

[@bewitched3912]

@@kennethharrison4847 God, "oh Brigham, BRIGHAM!! Brigham Ebenezer Young!! Pull your wet willie winkie out and listen up! You are going to dupe the dregs and pretend education is your thang, while telling the Morons horses existed in 500 bc.. there were only TAPIERS!! WHOA NELLY, GIDDY UP!! RAW HIDE!!

[@bewitched3912]

@@kennethharrison4847 .. and it's *there. Yes, I'm petty. I'm the Petty Princess of the Moron lore!! Keep it up and we'll be buddies!!