is Windows 11 Better Than Windows 10

[@mobas07]

The UI design of Windows 11 is horrible. You have to at the very least install explorer patcher and classic shell just to make it usable. Windows 10 isn't perfect but at least I can right click and not have to click show more options every single time.

[@cookieboy5300]

I used to complain about the same "show more options" just so I could delete, cut, copy and paste. Then I noticed the little icons at the top of the menu for cut, copy, paste and the trash can to delete. I really like it now and no more complaints from me. Change is hard but once I got used to it, and it didn't take long" I find myself missing the feature in Windows 10.

[@mobas07]

Honestly the only reason I'm still even using Windows at this point is for games and editing software. Photoshop is mostly usable on Linux now though so as soon as easyanticheat works properly for most games I can see windows losing a good chunk of users and they'll only have themselves to blame.

[@billyguthrie3176]

so far i can not get openshell to work on the taskbar but it works fine on the start menu.

[@billyguthrie3176]

no change isn't hard but microsofts concept of what looks good is.@@cookieboy5300

[@b4ph0m3tdk9]

Lots of my software is under that damn more option. Also open a dos box at location is now a powershell window, so annoying

[@jayrowe6473]

My OS should not force me to use third party software to "make it usable".

[@riot9179]

Windows 11 is perfectly usable without any 3rd party software, miles better than that crap of Windows 10.

[@schmalzanlage_der_blutritter]

@@riot9179You shouldn't say that

[@rohitghosh466]

@@riot9179 i strongly disagree!

[@eriklarsson3188]

@@riot9179 Win 11 doesn't hold a candle to Win 10.

[@joebenson528]

We shouldn't have one viable option as an OS either. But the "Free Western Democracies" incentivize monopolies.

[@goofyrulez7914]

Who asked them (to change the interface, increase the number of clicks needed to get anything done and add all that bloat and spyware)?

[@Britec09]

They can do what they like, its there operating system, you always have a choice to use it or use something else. Over a billion users, hard to please everyone mate

[@goofyrulez7914]

@@Britec09- People depend on Windows to get their jobs done. Microsoft should be very careful about changing it and forcing us into a new learning curve just to be able to do what we did before. It is not a toy. Many business softwares use it to get work done, and you can't just arbitrary go to a different OS. How much money has their changes cost businesses?

[@DarkDyllon]

@@Britec09 ok, but WHO asked period, saying "it's their OS" is such a kiss ass comment. of course they can do whatever they want, they can also just nuke it and upload spyware if they really cared, is it a good move though? all you said in this video was "just turn it off LOL" or "just download a 3rd party program LOL"

[@Codyslx]

@@goofyrulez7914 Then don't update to windows 11 then, LMAO. There is no learning curve for anyone with a brain.

[@goofyrulez7914]

@@Codyslx- A) Who would have thought that a simple update would have such massive changes? and B) It's pretty much impossible to go back to Win 10, and even if you did, it's End Of Life is coming up so you are screwed either way.

[@eckythump8318]

Shouldn't we be given the option to have all privacy options on as default?

[@pietroroberto6114]

We should.

[@yogibear2k220]

And if you if you download the ISO from Microsoft and install it onto a USB Flash Key using the latest RUFUS windows installer then yes you can.

[@Sollace]

Saying you can turn it off with policy editor (and advanced tool meant for corporate IT teams that's only available in certain editions) isn't a very good excuse. Most people won't know about it, won't have access to it, or know properly how to use it without using a guide. Sure, the technical users who care about their privacy will figure it out, but they'd manage even if removing the spyware involved digging through registry dat files by hand. Out concern is for all the users who won't or can't, that are going to be unknowlingly subjected to Microsoft's surveilance. We shouldn't have to turn them off in the first place. They should be off by default as soon as you install the OS.

[@Britec09]

So use Shutup10 and that does it safely

[@Sollace]

@@Britec09 SU10 _is_ an excellent tool. I've used it myself a few times.

[@DarkDyllon]

@@Britec09 "just use a 3rd party program that you can't verify" weren't you the 1 that was saying win11 was much more secure? doesn't seem very safe to me to just install random pieces of software to change some of the horrible changes they made.

[@metatechnologist]

Big Search company pulls the same sht tbh.

[@cringe4395]

@@DarkDyllonthen do it yourselves lmao. It isnt rocket science to go through privacy options in settings and turn off stuff that you dont want.

[@DustinYoungstrom]

Thanks Hypest Key , received windows 11 + office 2021 pro plus.

[@GirlOnAQuest]

Open Office is good too and free.

[@NovianLeVanMusic]

@@GirlOnAQuestLibre Office*

[@Skibbehify]

@@NovianLeVanMusic Only Office*

[@gnanasabaapatirg7376]

​@GirlOnAQues nope I can't do many things in open office

[@BorisZX6R]

Problem is you "have to" go to group policy and follow someones instructions because for most people it makes no sense and it is very hard to understand/know what to disable or enable and where.

[@Ikrananka]

Or you can use something like O&O ShutUp10++ which makes this very easy to do.

[@nigelfreeman6192]

Question, why should we have to download a third party program to be able to change the start menu. To the way we want to. If a third party app/program can do it, I have to ask why can’t Microsoft have this feature included.

[@Emmanuel_Rocha]

Exactly. I don't understand the insistence of Microsoft to force users into a specific interface when you can CLEARLY change it quite easily with third-party software. It would even be way more accepted.

[@wolfstorm5394]

You guys do realize Windows is not open source right? Microsoft can do whatever they want with the OS same how Apple does whatever they want with Mac OS

[@nigelfreeman6192]

@@wolfstorm5394 yes we do realise this. But it doesn’t mean their right especially when they say they are listening to it users and clearly don’t. Thing is that windows was sort of a half way house between Linux and apple’s closed eco system. Windows was an os where users were able to tweak OS to the way they used their PC. Microsoft seems to be changing things for change sake.

[@wolfstorm5394]

@@nigelfreeman6192 Windows is just as customizable as it's always been, maybe even better, problem is you just got lazy and paranoid

[@nigelfreeman6192]

@@wolfstorm5394 I’m not Lazy Windows 11 is definitely NOT as customisable,. Microsoft must have shares in the mouse companies as it takes more clicks to get to things than Window 10. In 11 There are more crappy Microsoft ads that i have to dismiss, more mouse clicks.

[@thedarkone7110]

- Downloaded an ISO - Installed without network on a VM behind pfsense. - Used bypassnro, which was needed to install the damn thing without a network connection. - Created a local user. - Answered all "privacy" questions with No. - Logged in to the desktop. - Started capture on pfsense. - Connected the LAN. In only a few minutes, the machine talked to 70+ hosts and generated 500+ MiB of traffic. Not convinced? - Open the start menu and look at it. - Open the context menu and look at it. - Write the Word "NO" on a notepad in large, friendly letters. - Go on the hunt for a Linux distro. Windows 11 was the reason I left. Not going back to THAT sh*tshow.

[@morecarstuff]

would there be a way to whitelist certain hosts instead? im not trying to use windows 11 at all. but this is a very good test you have done here. I may keep my windows 10 PCs, offline, and use a windows 11 VM soley for downloads to be on safer end after they stop supporting 10

[@morecarstuff]

just to juxtapose have you ran this same test with a windows 10 iso and see how many hosts it connected to?

[@thedarkone7110]

@@morecarstuff That would be a fairly involved process. Sorry. Wall of text incoming. You'd have to go into the advanced firewall settings (run wf.msc as admin), then open the properties of the root node and set the default status for outbound connections to block. Then disable all of the inbound and outbound exception rules. After that, given there are no backdoors, your system would be an island and you'd have to allow each and every connection to the outside world (obviously, don't do this for a system you're connected to remotely, because it will drop your connection and sit there until you log in via keyboard). Furthermore, if you wanted to allow your VM to connect to the internet, you'd have to concoct a rule that allows the process of your hypervisor to talk to it. I'm speculating here, but I'd guess, it'd be doable for a third party product, but a downright nightmare for Hyper-V. Also furthermore: Microsoft has a knack for overwriting things tampered-with with updates. So, at some day, you might find your disabled rules enabled again. For "THE USER EXPERIENCE" or some other scapegoat explanation. That being said, it's never a good idea to run an unpatched or out-of-support OS on the internet. They did patch Windows 7 yesteryear for one of the more dangerous exploits, but I wouldn't count on it. If you're concerned about privacy, you could try to get your feet wet with Linux. Maybe run it inside a VM first. Not gonna lie: There is a learning curve and it's pretty steep at times, but the usability has kinda exploded in the last few years. I still have a Windows 10 machine for audio stuff, because DAWs and VSTs are still not a thing, but everything else runs openSUSE Leap with KDE Plasma and I'm pretty happy with it.

[@thedarkone7110]

@@morecarstuff I have not (yet). I might at some point, but I'm in no rush. Given the direction Microsoft seems to be heading, there could also be a difference between the RTM version of Windows 10 and a current one. That would be quite the rabbit hole to explore.

[@thedarkone7110]

A bit of rambling: What ultimately drove me away was mainly one thing: You pay good money for an operating system and they treat you like cattle in a giant heap of ways: There are privacy options, but they're all "off" by default (despite Windows naming them the other way round), there is "required" diagnostical data ("nah man, you don't require that. you want it. and if I don't dive into the system's policies on at least the professional version to disable it, I have to give it to you for... reasons"), there's a whole host of services and scheduled tasks that gather data and send it home, they introduced a whole microsoft-edge:// protocol just to block help links from being opened in another browser, edge runs in the background on a freshly installed system for no apparent reason, if you dare to open it, you're greeted by an OOBE window you can't close (short of killing the process), at every turn they try to push you towards creating and using one of their dumb accounts... and copilot whispered to me, that the context menu of Windows 11 was redesigned to its abominable state, because they evaluated usage data for it. Each consecutive version after Windows XP was a step backwards in terms of privacy and after 20+ years of trying to work around it, I'm done tolerating that.

[@Its_Jordan]

No issue with Windows 11. The main reason I hated Windows 11 was the start menu, so I got StartAllBack. You can change the Start menu, the Explorer menu, and the Tray icons. It's pretty good.

[@Merri-l4l]

Windows 11 because design, got win 11 pro key at hyp-estkey partner microsoft.

[@UnarmedFork]

what about performance? all you care about is looks.

[@EmptyPot-1]

I have a n unsupported 7th gen intel laptop and the only reason I have not upgraded to Windows 11 is that I don't like to force and get things unofficially. Although I know these restrictions are ridiculous!

[@STONE69_]

You still have a year and 8 months, no worries, you have options.

[@US_Joe]

Thanks Brian. BTW: I noticed a few tech channels are reporting that 3rd part UI apps like start11 are being defeated by MS. I'm staying with10 as long as possible not because of stubborness, but for concerns about compatibility with my apps. G'day mate.👍👍👍

[@llundo9051]

Same reason I have~

[@Britec09]

Thanks for the info

[@CCJ1998]

A lot of that is when they roll a feature update and do something screwy with the UI. I've noticed since they stopped doing feature updates on 10 all the 3rd party programs work with no issues.

[@US_Joe]

You are correct my friend. That's why I will be at 10 for as long as possible.@@CCJ1998

[@gex581990]

ExplorerPatcher has been 1 step ahead everytime

[@jimzielinski946]

I put Linux mint on my slowest non-upgradable laptop a year ago. I'm working on trying out a different distribution of Linux on my next slowest non-upgradable laptop. I have upgraded my gaming laptop to 11 after waiting about a year for their first big upgrade of Win 11. I always seem to have a few Windows only programs so I'm stuck with Windows. My concern is about Microsoft's next set of minimum requirements for Win 12.

[@Sonya_Makepeace]

I use Mint and Feren OS. Feren has a lovely interface.

[@Alan-rt3se]

For what it's worth, Zorin OS 17 is the Linux distro that is closest to Windows in my opinion, and the first Linux distro that I could fully install and didn't need to use the Terminal to load any drivers. Even if you've never used Linux before, the UI is pretty intuitive. I tried Linux Mint before, but I had trouble loading a driver for my USB wifi adapter.

[@jimzielinski946]

@@Alan-rt3se funny you should mention the issue of getting a USB driver to work with Mint. I had that problem too! I eventually got it to work. Unfortunately I had to wipe that drive. I never was able to get the driver to work again - I probably forgot some step. Anyway, thanks for the tip.

[@matthewkuhl79]

i went Mint 10 years ago, but i've had to use Windows on work laptops. i miss Windows zero at this point.

[@reformationfan]

I have windows 11 running on a few of computers, 2 of them don't meet the hardware requirements but have it running anyway. My problem with MS is why can't they a allow slightly older hardware run it?, they can post a caveat stating that it may not exploit the latest security features.

[@charginginprogresss]

About older systems, as always, it's about having a secure browser, an antivirus+firewall that is getting definition updates, and being hardware and software literate. Considering there are modern browsers (e.g. Supermium) that work on Windows 2000, and there are Antiviruses like Avast that are still getting support and updates of virus definitions for their Windows XP version, I'd say a literate user can definitely use any system past Windows 2000 on the internet without risking anything more than a modern normie user on Windows 10 or 11. That said, the key is being literate. If you download random stuff and execute it, if you visit malicious sites, and such, you won't have a good time. But likely you won't even on a modern system as day 0 exploits do exist and if you get one before it's promptly patched, you will be boned. Having a modern system is just a 99% effective parachute for the software illiterate (majority of users). If you know what you're doing, you won't get any trouble on your pc, ever. This is the reason tech channels still get those "stupid comments" saying using older system is fine. Just having a blanket statement "if you're not 100% up to date you're as good as hacked" is also very much false, likewise. I would also like to add that a lot of "hacks" require you being targeted specifically. And about that, sorry to break it out to you, depending on the level of the hacker, you will get hacked even on windows 11 if said hacker decides you're their target. No security updates will protect you. Point is that this type of targeted hack is just unlikely. For everything else, updated AV, modern secure browser, and knowing what you're doing, and you're fine.

[@sun-groupecommunications1331]

I am like you, and smartest answer ever seen on Internet until now!

[@andreasplosky8516]

For now, I am keeping Windows 10 because I strongly prefer its interface to that of 11. I still prefer Windows 7's interface to 10, but it is what it is. I do not want to be forced to install 3d party software to make my interface usable and convenient. If Microsoft is not capable of creating a solid interface, then I will stay as long as possible with the version that has the better interface.

[@WololoWololo2]

Why do you care for interface by a lot? Is it because of bugs? Windows 10 and Windows 7 both have no bugs and 10 is as mature as Win7. That being said since Windows 11 will get more and quicker updates than Windows 10, Win11 will be more mature than 10 in next months

[@andreasplosky8516]

@@WololoWololo2I care for the interface because it is a huge part of my daily experience. I have WIndows 10 at home and 11 at work. I experience the difference every day. I have a very strong dislike for the 11 interface. I find it almost insulting to get some mobile-like, stunted, malformed interface on my desktop PC .

[@WololoWololo2]

@@andreasplosky8516 And it makes your desktop more easier and familiar to use, boosts Microsoft’s motto that says: HEY GUYS WE BECAME A COMPANY TO MAKE OUR OS AS ROCK STABLE OS IN DESIGNS SO UPGRADE TO NEW OS CUZ WE ARE SAME AS APPLE IN SOFTWARE EXPERIENCE, ETC” just like IOS 7 new design. But I get what you are saying, When I used Windows 7 I was so greedy that I couldn’t experience it to the fullest I waited my mom to get me an Windows 8.1 PC

[@WololoWololo2]

@@andreasplosky8516 So what do you do on both PCs actually? When Windows 10 goes to ESU what will you do?

[@Darren-ff4oc]

Biggest gripe Windows 11 was pressing , "reset your PC" tab it actually corrupted whole system so ended up having to do a full clean install to fix computer.

[@aleksandargrbic100]

This happened to me a long time ago on windows 10. I think it has to do with hardware that actually doesn't support it.

[@kimjong-un4253]

I'm a Windows 10 user, and I don't want to "upgrade" to Windows 11... For me, the security isn't the deal breaker. The thing I hate the most about Windows 11 is the UI and the fact that everything have the looks of a cheap off brand PC from 2015. UI is horrible, everything is in the weirdest places, and you constantly need to take unnecessary paths to do whatever you wanted to do. I have tried to keep an open mind about Windows 11, I even use it on my laptop. But no matter how much i try to like it, it just doesn't feel as good as Windows 10. I'd even prefer Windows 7 over Windows 11. The looks of Windows 11 also just feels rushed, unfinished and it looks like they've tried too hard with it. It kinda reminds me of the UI of Overwatch, Overwatch 1 had such a nice detailed look, while the UI of Overwatch 2 just looks like they didn't even try to make it better.

[@kimjong-un4253]

I also often swap through tabs a lot, and it's sooooo much easier to see which tabs you have open on the taskbar in Windows 10, you can barely see it on windows 11

[@ericpratt984]

Yeah, I agree. Windows 11 may have better security but man that UI...

[@amberdelaquart5197]

Disagree. The design of Windows 10 has more inconsitstencies which they fixed in Win11 finally IMO

[@who2116]

​@@amberdelaquart5197 What inconsistencies? Im buying a new pc, and i need to make up my mind on what os im gonna use

[@amberdelaquart5197]

@@who2116 from a UI design perspective if you are sensitive to that

[@Sirlarrythecat]

I will hang on until the last moment as I like windows 10 and have gotten so used to using it. I have given Windows 11 a try and thought this will take me a long while to really adjust to it as soon as Win 11 was released I started buying up components that are compatible with it and have two machines now that are compatible with it . The biggest issue I have is still have the guts of my previous PC's that are now basically worthless and will like a lot others probably end up as E-Waste. Regardless of the fact they could easily run Linux there is not the Linux user base out there that Windows has and most of the Linux users are running it on low spec devices as that's its biggest strongpoint.

[@scotmcpherson]

Linux Mint is about as close to windows as you can get as far as ease of use...it's also quite faster

[@vladimirdorta6692]

I agree in general. I will use Win 10 as long as I can mainly because of habit, and also because I only use WordPerfect. I have a laptop with Linux Mint, I love it, and I will eventually switch to Linux completely.

[@WololoWololo2]

PC Manufacturers needs to recycle their own E-wastes to better products just like Apple and Samsung is doing right now

[@KrishnaDraws]

Riddle me this: how can I easily remove the news widgets? This should be off by default, and privacy settings should be ON by default as well.

[@MicahIsBatman2]

Right click -> Taskbar Settings -> Widgets -> Off. It's always been that easy.

[@tommy2cents492]

Just rolled back from W11 to W10... The taskbar in W11 is crippled: stuck at the bottom and always combines items if the number gets over 16. W11 is made for touch screens, and it shows... Yuck! I need a DESKTOP UI that does not waste huge amounts of space.

[@derekp2674]

Great presentation, thanks Brian. I have a couple of PCs now running W11, alongside my W10 and Linux (and XP) machines. What I most dislike about the change from W10 to W11 is the changes to the presentation of the user interface. That said, it is great to finally see tabs in the W11 File Manager, just like Linux has had for years.

[@Britec09]

Thanks for sharing!

[@andrewquinn5946]

Its worth making a backup image of your windows 10 install and do a new install of 11, try it for a few weeks and if you dont like it you can easily restore your windows 10 image.

[@STONE69_]

Just take your hard drive out, and install it on another.

[@cap2024]

You don't even need to wipe your operating system. If you have enough space such as 30 GB on your ssd or hdd, you can run a program such as virtual box or free edition of vmware and run windows 11 virtually as a guest os and still keep your core windows 10 os on your computer.

[@antrave]

or just don't do it all. fk 11

[@WololoWololo2]

@@cap2024GENIUS

[@wexdust]

this can lead to untrue picture as VMs gonna make the system weaker @@cap2024

[@unkown34x33]

well I've been using Windows 11 for about... 3 years now I think. from out of the box, it's terrible. both win 10 and 11. But after a debloat, and like you said turning off and uninstalling a lot of apps, I have no problem with it. Infact... I love the almost macOS UI:) non flat it's great

[@Kristiyan-Angelov]

I don't change to 11 because I have a lot of apps and settings set to 10 and when I change it a lot of them will be different and some apps deleted (games settings and etc)

[@soundspark]

If one wants to argue that Smart App Control will help keep you safe, note it only works if you do a fresh install and the Evaluation mode decides your system is suitable. If the evaluation fails or you manually turn it off, it will be off permanently. As for the latency, Windows 11 does force flip presentation model on DirectX 11 and 12 games which allows the GPU to bypass DWM composition. Also means if you turn Vsync off in games you will see tearing even in window mode as the games are now rendering directly to the display.

[@mohamedhannani5062]

Give us the link of the video you spoke about turning off those group policy features, please

[@AndreaBorman]

I don't like either versions. The only good Windows were Windows XP and Windows 7. Windows 7 was the best one because it added a lot of secure features yet it was user friendly and had all of the features we knew like the start menu. Also a lot of the old software from Windows XP and Windows 98 worked on Windows 7. Then Microsoft killed Windows with Windows 8 which was nothing like Windows with the Metro Theme and no more start menu. And a lot of software that I was using from Windows XP and 7 did not work on 8. Microsoft should have just stayed with Windows 7 and put out regular updated instead of making a Windows 8 then 10 and now 11 which is even worse. It gets worse and worse with every new versions of Windows. The older versions of Windows were better and Windows 7 was the best one and they should have stayed with that. Windows Vista was also good but did have some bugs though these were sorted out with Windows 7. If Windows 7 was still supported I would still be using Windows but it's not. And there are now no web browsers or software that supports Windows 7. So there is no choice but to either upgrade to Windows 10 or move on. In my case I chose Linux for this reason because I did not want to upgrade to 10.

[@Laura-6887]

That's good to know. I'm using Windows 8.1 and when Windows 10 came out, I tried the update but hated what I saw and went back to Windows 8.1. I'm afraid of upgrading because of all that I hear of negativity. I'll keep using it as long as I possibly can. Windows XP was great.

[@AndreaBorman]

@@Laura-6887 The problem is that Windows 8.1 is no longer supported. So you won't get any new updates for it. Also most of the software such as Google Chrome and other web browsers no longer supports Windows 8 or 8.1. Which means you will be using an outdated browser that could be years out of date. So you would be better off trying Linux as I have done. Linux Mint a good one to start with or Zorin OS. Both look a lot like Windows and are made for Windows users in mind who want to try Linux for the first time. You can test Linux out first by booting it from the live CD or USB. And if everything is working and you like it you can install it.

[@tontsar91]

Windows 7 is easily the best Windows ever released, even if you are not a Windows fan.

[@MongDangino]

I like 7 but if you want to upgrade the hardware drivers can be a problem and cloning the drive for use on another machine is a PITA

[@ourdogzippy]

I am definitely in the win10 camp…. And the fact that Microsoft is going to at least support security for win10 beyond 2025 with a paywall says it all doesn’t it?

[@soundspark]

The paywalled updates are advertised as a last resort.

[@KinkyChrisRs]

Yeah cause why can't Microsoft just keep spending their money/staff/resources on an operating system they think as outdated. Ridiculous if u ask me

[@soundspark]

@@KinkyChrisRs Not really, they have a 10 year lifecycle which in the software industry is quite generous; when they release new versions of a software product that entails maintaining new branches of the software and thus when security patches need to be provided it means patching all the supported branches.

[@ourdogzippy]

@@KinkyChrisRs win 10 was supposed to be the last iteration of Windows per Microsoft, win 11 features should have been an update, not a new OS, but they changed things, went back on what they said, how outdated could it be, other than the TPM security requirements and some GUI changes it’s the same OS so far as i know, so I just don’t understand the need, just seems unnecessary to me. And I feel that paying for security updates after it was already supposed to be covered and is now not because they changed their to minds when they created win 11 is a bit sus to me. Feels like a betrayal in a way. Just my opinion.

[@WololoWololo2]

@@ourdogzippySame OS but for Gamers

[@maximosh]

Windows 11 isn't better.. it's features are simply rearranged to make operating it more difficult, and not for the convenience of the user. The fact that so many people have resorted to hacks and tweaks just to make 11 more usable is a veritable statement of its level of approval. I put up with 11's quirks and freezing windows explorer for a whole week.. MS has had 2 years of updates to fix their nonsense.. 11's not for me.

[@Britec09]

Windows 10 had all the same issues, people just refuse to remember that amount of issues Windows 10 had

[@maximosh]

​My first installation of Windows 10 was version 1903, so I guess I missed the earlier problems it may've had. It's become a mature and stable product that hasn't had any deal breaking user interface issues.

[@maxwellking1253]

You’ve said it all 😅

[@maxwellking1253]

@@Britec09 windows 10 had same issues when earlier released, did they fix the issues yes absolutely

[@maxwellking1253]

To me i believe the windows 11 will get better fixes and become usable with time, as for now I’ll stick to windows 10pro 😂😊 There is absolutely no point in trying to install third party apps just to suite my usability on the windows 11 and also keep in mind all these softwares and tweaks are running on system backgrounds which you may not notice but its consumes memory on task manager

[@stevebachman9076]

I’m on Windows 10 and have been for years. Sometimes change for change sake is just unnecessary. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

[@Sid-Cannon]

I've been using first LTSB, then LTSC and now IoT LTSC, mainly because of less bloat, a longer life cycle and I can't be bothered reinstalling Windows every 6 months to a year. Since 2016 I've installed Windows 3 times and don't plan on doing it again until IoT LTSC stops getting supported in 2032. I also use Acronis images, so if anything does go wrong I can just use an Acronis image rather than having to reinstall Windows. It takes at most 10 minutes to make an Acronis image, and again 10 minutes to restore one.

[@Britec09]

That is an option for people who want to stay on Windows 10.

[@Sid-Cannon]

@@Britec09 Agreed, I have no problem with Windows 11 its just there's no LTSC version out yet, well not that I'm aware of, and there's no compelling reason to upgrade IMO.

[@juddery]

I understand and appreciate the security benefits of Windows 11, however for me it's a moot point. I have a top of the range gaming tower from a few years ago and there is still nothing it can't do. There isn't a game that I care about it can't run and it's still really fast. However, it still doesn't meet the specs for Windows 11 and I'm not forking out another 2k+ for a brand new comparable system. Like I said, I understand the security benefits, however, the stated minimum specs are nothing but forced obsolescense, to drive hardware sales. Just because it would be more secure with more modern hardware, doesn't mean that it shouldn't be allowed to be used on older hardware. I've got the same issue with my phone. It's a 4 year old, expensive flagship phone, in perfect condition and still runs everything perfectly. Yet it's end of life and no longer getting updates, so it has to be updated and sent to landfill. It disgusting in my opinion. I don't expect companies to support hardware forever. That would be ridiculous, but 3-4 years and having to scrap perfectly good hardware, is deeply irresponsible and greedy. Again, just my opinion, but it's a very strong one.

[@deniswauchope3788]

Totally agree. It's really stupid to have to throw away perfectly good gear just because it's a few years old & maybe doesn't run the latest whatever. I keep my phones until they break; my PC was built in 2012 and is still going strong, and I won't be upgrading to Win 11 even if I could. Why change what's already working just fine? SMH

[@wetlandweasel]

Brian, how do I turn off these privacy intrusions in Windows 11 if I don'thave Windows 11 Pro with group policy editor?

[@Ikrananka]

Have a look at O&O ShutUp10++. This works with Windows 11 Home.

[@MicahIsBatman2]

Use Powershell to install Group Policy Editor. Ltt has a tutorial if you need help.

[@Robert-sl7jo]

I’ve bought my Windows 11 Pro in a Dell XPS 8960 with an i9 Intel processor, 64GB of ram and liquid cooling for the CPU. I have nothing bad to say about the PC, but one bad thing about Windows 11 is it’s folder icons. They don’t give the option of using the vertical folders used in W7 to 10. I take many photos and these new horizontal folders make it much harder to find a specific photo or set of photos if you don’t remember the date. As for the menu, mine is a Windows 7 as I didn’t lie Windows 10 or 11 start menus. As for security, I use Kaspersky Premium, have done for years. That’s it, I ordered the PC custom made by Dell and am happy with it. It cost over 3,000 dollars Canadian. Microsoft should have more folder icon options.

[@WololoWololo2]

64 GBs of RAM is overkill but always good for futureproof 😊👍

[@V530-15ICR]

No, Windows 10 is better.

[@TOM452]

No. Windows 11 is much more modern. You can easily debloat it & disable telemetry. Don’t forget you need to do the same to get the most out of Win 10 anyway, and it’s long in the tooth.

[@Britec09]

and that is your opinion and choice

[@AmishHybrid]

00:26

[@V530-15ICR]

@Rohit_Kh because the taskbar for example is much worse in Windows 11

[@UndercoverDog]

​@@TOM452you needing to modify it makes it worse than Win 10 tho

[@robcarley7506]

Got 10 and 11 dual booted on my Optiplex 990 and Latitude laptop. Both OS's work just fine on the machines.

[@madspaniel4271]

Hello Brian, being old fogie (i'm in my 60's) , i'm a bit confused. There is much talk about microsoft 'forcing' older machines out, trying to 'force' people onto Win 11 etc. I'm just wondering, is this something sinister, or is it just technology moving on? After all, you'd be hard pressed to find a service station that could replace the wooden wheel should it fall from your horse drawn carriage! ......I guess my main question is, is this something sinister & controlling from Mircosoft........or is it we're simply being asked to move on with the times?

[@wexdust]

probably both good sir, probably both

[@brycestewart3181]

I stayed with 7 till steam did not support anymore, still have that pc and use for non gaming. I built a new one with win10 for gaming. When steam stops support for win 10 I will upgrade it to win 12 hopefully. Thx for sharing When Zorin supports steam, I will mostly stop using windows.

[@WololoWololo2]

Steam supports Linux dude I tried it no cap went back to Win11 cuz WiFi drivers issue..

[@tunesmith5664]

I think you've aptly convinced me to try and stay with windows 11 though I do find some of the accessibility to menus and such a bit intimidating. I'll put on my 'big boy' pants and stay with 11 for awhile to see if I can adjust... 73 yrs old now, harder to adust :)

[@collie8]

why the hell they force changes on UI? just why? who has time to learn it?

[@njbrx]

fr, i can't stand it

[@thomassutrina8296]

I have held off installing Windows 11 first because bugs and update of software to run on it. So your saying that sufficient time has gone by that both minor issues. So I will be updating.

[@urielseuthes7484]

why should i be able to turn off that "stuff" and not be able to turn it on if i wanted to? Going to switch to linux or through the computer out of window. Its enough with microsoft spyware. Not to mention it uses my internet connection without asking.

[@SmitePlayz1]

I will not upgrade windows 11 until windows 10 gets discontinued. as an editor, the drag and drop feature to drag files from the file explorer to other programs is a must.

[@spshc]

The only reason I have not upgraded is I wanted to wait for Windows 11 to grow and mature (i.e. get rid of a lot of the bugs). I'll probably upgrade this summer. I just saw that older computers (Intel 2008 and AMD 2007 processors and below) won't be able to run Windows 11, with the 24H2 patch, due to the use of the instruction POPCNT.

[@DeadPixel1105]

Why would anyone be using a PC with a CPU from 2008? That's absolutely absurd.

[@AlamoOriginal]

i already done past that when i got a good enough pc, and frankly, and hear me out, its already relativley bug free and smooth to use As with any windows versions i installed just in case the UI is the problem, i always like to install third party customize tools, like Classic Shell for Windows 7 and 10. And for Windows 11, explorerpatcher and a cool program called Start11 and also install a batch program like Rectify11, its about as good as you can get with using Windows 11 while keeping the ui and functionality consistent, you should try upgrading and installing these and see what you think

[@carloareaser]

​@@DeadPixel1105no it's not absurd. What's absurd is to block hardware that's still functional and usable.

[@WololoWololo2]

@@DeadPixel1105Her PC should never go to E-Waste, especially if she paid for it

[@Zendukai]

Brian, if you download the recent Windows 11 iso, do they update the iso so the bugs have been removed, or, do they leave them there and let the updates fix the bugs?

[@kingcc2]

Windows 11 lag a lot. I can click on "Documents" or "Pictures" & most of the time I get the "working on it" message & it stays for about a minute or so🙄 Plus, I always have a hard time connecting a printer to Windows 11 & it always fail😡 I try to connect the same printer on Windows 10 & it connected in about 30 seconds. I'm staying with Windows 10 for as long as I can.

[@tech-bore8839]

Let's face it, the UI design is awful. XP, Vista, and Win7 all had great UI's. They were colorful and welcoming to the user. Win10 & 11? Now we've gone from a 4-color logo to just blue with an overall cold, rigid design that is unwelcoming to the user. It's just like the design change in McDonald's restaurants of the 90's vs today: warm & friendly to cold & depressing.

[@PanteraPanther]

modernity sucks because is primitive, besides that, when Bill was in the team, the OS used to be better.

[@peterborley2142]

It's only my cpu that requires upgrade to enable a upgrade to Windows 11 from Windows 10. So I hope to upgrade my cpu from AMD pro A10-9700 R7 to AMD Ryzen 5 4600G CPU this year.

[@STONE69_]

It has to be the same socket, otherwise, you will also need a motherboard and maybe even Ram.

[@peterborley2142]

Both cpu are am4 sockets. Motherboard website recommended the newer cpu. So it should be OK.

[@KimEllis-kt8ei]

Hell no, it's so filled with glitches, often to the point of unusable, it's ridiculous The only thing I like better in Win 11 is that notepad doesn't wipe out my work if I don't save it before a crash or restart. Win 11 also by default has a lot of beneficial features turned off, making you have to look up how to turn them on and usually requiring a bunch of steps to do it, when they were on by default in Win 10.

[@DimpieDeBruyn]

I've been on Win11 since day 1. I'm so used and comfortable with it now, that i actually hate working on a clients PC with Win 10. LOL

[@cdeford2]

Windows 10 then Linux, which I already use on my laptop. The only thing I like about Windows 11 is the explorer ribbon, which is atrocious on 10. I don't play games nearly as much as I used to and the only reason I stayed with Windows so long is gaming.

[@ahuman4386]

Same. Been using Mint for a long while now on all my machines. My main one for gaming has both right now but almost got Mint to run some games smoothly.

[@WololoWololo2]

Linux has lots of problems dude I don’t recommend, but please move to Linux because you guys can increase the Linux usage so Linux will be more popular so more users will go to Linux and then there will be more better updates

[@CCJ1998]

So true about that Linux statement. I dual boot myself. There's like one piece of software that doesn't work well in WINE, so I'll boot into Windows from time to time to get things done. Really for me that's where Windows has its use, just to get things done. If I'm going to play mess around, not take anything serious, I'll boot into Linux.

[@BorisZX6R]

Not every windows operating system successor is good. Vista and 8 and 8.1 come to mind. So just because Microsoft says it is better or newer or even more secure. (More secure at the cost or privacy and telemetry, funny how that works) You should compare windows 10 and 11 on the exact same hardware and see how taxing it is on your system. Cpu usage/ram background processes etc. Even if you have more modern or windows 11 compatible hardware and can upgrade to 11 you might not want to since it might perform worse and be a lot more sluggish.

[@WololoWololo2]

How is Windows 8.1 bad? Win8.1 is also way better than Win7 it was way more optimized faster smoother more secure supported more newer hardwares, it got Microsoft Store and so on. Windows 10 is supposed to be a worse Windows 8.1

[@WololoWololo2]

Please note that Windows 8.1 is made for tablets tho. So this is fastest OS in a Windows computer

[@BorisZX6R]

​@@WololoWololo2 the adoption numbers tell you all there is to know about it and they were horrible. Windows 7 and 10 were far more successful. The ui on windows 8 and 8.1 was horrible.

[@davidpenaloza1586]

Recent Files Cannot be Shown in Apps pinned in Start Menu. Missing options like permanently delete a file. The task bar is awful i usually change from internal to external speakers and now i have to take like three steps to do it. Windows 11 doesn't look well it has a lot of blurry fonts. Explorer patcher helps you a lot; but also you need some extra registry fixes to make it run well and fast. If I had windows 10 drivers from my laptop brand I would deleted windows 11 instantly.

[@JeffWaynee]

I mostly hate how much of a space hog the win 11 taskbar is, and there is no baked in option to use small icons like 10 has.

[@JayeshBhere]

That's why I stuck into Windows 10 specially for "Small Taskbar" option.

[@Britec09]

Everyone has there own issues with Windows 11, it will never be perfect no matter what Microsoft do.

[@AMD627]

You can make it smaller with ExplorerPatcher.

[@DarkDyllon]

@@Britec09 but why remove the option in the 1st place. normally more options = better no? instead they axe it and then act surprised when nobody likes their changes.

[@DarkDyllon]

@@Britec09 but why remove the option in the 1st place. normally more options = better no? instead they axe it and then act surprised when nobody likes their changes.

[@OnSilverWings]

While 11 might be better under the hood, it just feels like MS fucked up and did things they really shouldn't have needed to do. I was all eager to upgrade after waiting a bit for them to iron out bugs but then the reception kicked in and I just fail to see the point of upgrading. It might be that they've fix a lot of stuff or there might be ways to undo or circumvent the issues but the damage is done. I've yet to upgrade and I don't know when I will. I might well stick on 10 until the last moment, maybe wait to see if 12 comes out and how good/bad that is, or maybe just maybe stay on 10 if things really go south.

[@alexanderenriquez7954]

I had 10 for a while, loved the stability in 10, upgraded to 11. Started having issues left and right. Going back to 10 again

[@justingsmburundi7461]

I’m fond of Windows 11 but my PC is not supported. Should I force?

[@BK_Ha]

For me, overall, once after I adapted to it, Windows 11 was better than Windows 10. Because of loss of UI functionalities in Windows 11, I installed SystemTrayMenu and MiniBin. Still, the start menu sucks, but tolerable since I don't use it much.

[@WololoWololo2]

Microsoft also knows their start menu sucks 😂

[@deniswauchope3788]

Looks to me like the reasons for upgrade are: more security and future feature additions. That's not enough to get me to go to the hassle of changing my OS, especially since I now have everything working just like I want it to, which took a lot of effort & research (because what I like does not equal what MS likes.) I'll be sticking with Win 10 for the foreseeable future, unless MS comes up with some feature that I'd actually like to have. One of the biggest downsides to Win 11 is the (totally unnecessary) change to the right-click menu; I use that constantly, and DO. NOT. WANT. the crippled version found on Win 11. YMMV

[@perplexer-ex2fk]

Hey Brian, I have a very good and powerful computer but unfortunately my computer has 1.2 TPM. Is it possible to install Windows 11 on a computer with 1.2 TPM? If yes how. I would like to switch to Windows 11 because it is more secure than Windows 10

[@Straw..]

Your motherboard might have a bios update that makes you able to change tpm 1.2 to tpm 2.0 that's what I had to do

[@Robert-sl7jo]

My question concerns external hard drives and going from Windows 10 to Windows 11. I currently have a refurbished HP Z440 PC with Windows 10 using four Seagate external hard drives for all my data. Downloads, documents, and photos and the Seagate 5 TB Backup Plus hard drive all four are HDD. No data is on the internal C hard drive aside from W10 OS programs and Kaspersky and Canon camera programs. A brand new Dell XPS 8960 with windows 11 is on the way. As far as the 5 TB Backup Plus hard drive is concerned, there are HP programs in there dating back to 2019. I imagine that this hard drive with it's data will be incompatible with a Dell PC? Do I format this drive wiping out all it's data? Can I still use the other drives as is?

[@IoannisKotsaridis]

Whatever hard drive works with win 10 it still will work with win 11 as well. But it doesn't matter as all the hard drives will work with all windows versions. As for the HP/Dell programs, you don't need them, if you didn't installed them you can delete the .exe's from the hard drive. All the hard drives are compatible with all pc's, no matter the brand. Even with linux or macos pc's.

[@hansplourde]

Hi Brian, I finally decided to install Windows 11 on my laptop to see if I like it enough to upgrade my main desktop and after 48 hours, some tweaks and some exploration I must say that, other than the look and the weird "Settings App" menu, it's so far pretty much the same . My favorite feature (again, after 48 hours or 8 hours of actual usage) is the Paint App's background removal that in many cases needs very little adjustment on Photoshop. what a time saver Cheers Brian and your Subscribers

[@user-fr3hy9uh6y]

Doesn't really matter. Microsoft will drop support, and everyone will have to upgrade. On the desktop, I miss the simple right-click to copy and paste for files. Of course, all of the bloatware spying on you in the background is annoying, but your private data is worth millions to Microsoft.

[@hackbasa007]

I have intel i7 7th generation processor, just one generation lesser than minimum system requirements and I can't upgrade to windows 11, if Microsoft provide free extended support for windows 10 without paying until 2028, that's all we ask for. they can't abandon all the pc users just because we are on an old PC, like mine with intel i7 7th gen. they said windows as a service and windows 10 is the last OS though... 😏

[@AnthonyManzio]

It should work i have i 7 720qm 1.5ghz quad core

[@soundspark]

In HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\MoSetup create DWORD value AllowUpgradesWithUnsupportedTPMOrCPU and set it to 1. Make sure TPM or Intel PTT is turned on (and you have installed on GPT boot) and the setup will go through.

[@-TerryBogard]

I use windows10 and it keeps giving me the "update to windows11" when i think its a normal update to windows10.Very annoying. So here I am. After 11 has been out for a while, is it worth it for me to give in to the update harassing me to upgrade to 11? I dont use it for gaming, i use my laptop to watch movies, tv shows and media to my TV

[@Audi1Pete]

I'm not a fan of windows 11, I like to see my taskbar icons, everytime I install something I have to go back into the taskbar settings and click the slide bar to enable it, its frustating just the small things, like the changing to google for my default browser total mission changing all the slide bars. I suppose Microsoft employees have to come up with new ideas but I just don't see any useful ones in windows 11,

[@onlypvpcaterina-6669]

I've upgraded to win11, And love it now, I still own win10 pro enterprise edition, Love it now ! 🥰

[@TS-gg9dk]

Thank you for this overview and your opinion. 🙏

[@Britec09]

My pleasure!

[@leaharvey5201]

I liked Windows 7 and it took me a long time to become comfortable with Windows 8/8.1 . I didn’t upgrade when it was free. Microsoft Edge stopped functionning a few months ago. So now I’m debating if I upgrade to W10 or W11

[@jocobibradshaw4950]

had microsoft edge workin still on 7 not that long ago should still work

[@88feji]

Secondly, I've turned off the security updates of win 7 and now win 10 for more than a decade ... never gotten virus attacked once. I had to turn the security updates off because they are interfering too much with apps etc, causing too much nuisance and errors and problems to solve. Never regretted once, best thing I did.

[@dennislaplant95]

I have an Intel 8th Gen Dell laptop running Win 10 Pro. It's compatible with Win 11, but I've resisted trying to upgrade because I have a lot of programs installed and I've heard that if I decide to roll back to 10, I will have to reinstall all my programs. Is that true?

[@STONE69_]

First of all you should always make a backup of your files, before you install. Second of all, you will have ten days to go back.

[@dennislaplant95]

@@STONE69_ I'd definitely create an image first, but I've heard several people say the rollback, even within the 10 days, does not restore everything as it was before the upgrade - especially if significant changes were made.

[@WololoWololo2]

@@dennislaplant95No all your programs stays its just the OS that will change

[@akabaneaki]

I need to ask as its very important to me, but will the stuff on my desktop disappear when i switch to 11? (downloaded programs etc) My chrome account's bookmark will not be affected right? And will i lose my auto password inputs?

[@Doctorwhotrucking77]

monitor upgrades now and then won't hurt if you also do a lot of gaming. That can cause issues depending on the game

[@BLASTIC0]

i havent upgraded because i cant stand the new interface and many of the other changes they made. Windows 10 was the first time I actually enjoyed using Windows since XP. I wanted to give 11 a fair chance so I installed in on a new PC i built a few days ago and I just cant find anything in it that is really an improvement or change that I like. What is supposed to be "better" again?

[@Mikey-Likes-I.T]

About to upgrade my main system and gaming system to Ryzen 9 (for gaming system) and Ryzen 5 (main system) AM4 series so windows 11 it is for me. BUT my system that I have now still works fine so I think I will make it a media center or HTPC and put either Fyde OS or something else on it for the rest of it's life/service to me.

[@WololoWololo2]

Don’t upgrade to Win11 you will regret it. Also dont upgrade your main system because Win12 will be released next year (could be this year, too)

[@anamoyeee]

If i have: - go throgh gpedit - install 3rd party features - go to registry just to disable stuff like rounded corners which i hate - OR pay them to get more support on w10 just to make my computer usable, i'd rather switch to linux

[@lindastone6868]

I have to be on top of OS releases, as I help people use the tech they own, so if 12 came out tomorrow, I would upgrade.

[@jackcollazo]

Since I've used Windows 11 I've had no problems and I've enjoyed it. I wouldn't go back to any version.

[@donaldlemoine3032]

Curiosity question. Why are there no super techs out there taking security update features and creating a way to make them work on older operating systems. Like win11 security features to work on 10?

[@Lusc1nt]

Because Windows is a closed-source OS

[@WololoWololo2]

You ever heard of ESU?

[@donaldlemoine3032]

Its not like people have never modded a file to work on something other than what it was intended.

[@WololoWololo2]

@@donaldlemoine3032 I mean you paying for the Windows 10 ESU with your money. Windows 10 ESUs can be purchased by regular customers I heard in news says Microsoft

[@idus]

I just went to 11 last night on an unsupported setup (Ryzen fx processor) using Rufus and downloading the iso off Microsoft website and it’s the same. Check the boxes that say don’t system check, put it on an external usb and it loaded just fine. I also use Linux and MacOS. It’s the user that makes the computer safe, not the OS. Know your computer and how to keep it safe. Research your privacy and what browsers to use.

[@ahuman4386]

I know these are all your opinions but still not correct on why. A company shouldn't have that much say about YOUR OWN system and bullying tactics. And just sugar coating and alm ost sounding like a M$ sales pitch isn't a great idea. It is basically Stockholm Syndrome with M$. The fact that they FORCE people to upgrade their HARDWARE is a HUGE red flag! It is why a LOT of people trash M$ and PC's in general or switch to Crapple (which isn't any better if not worse). It is true that Linux has big problems, mainly in the community and having no firm foundation to be on. Too much choice is almost worse than too little. But most people didn't have near the amount of problems with Win10 eventually because it didn't force you to upgrade your PC! Couple with the fact they just buy out any laws against them because of bullying tactics to the "consumer" makes people run from M$ worse than Crapple! Bottom line is don't make yourself look and sound like M$ "got to you" or Stockholm Syndrome from M$ set in. Better to say "right now, we don't really have a choice as M$ is above the law...for now".

[@thatbmxguy]

I'm not having issues with 11 pro at all. I turned off many things. 11 though is installed on my two newest systems as system building seems more affordable lately. Otherwise I run Ubuntu and even that might change to Mint or something else as I don't like giving my email to a OS to log in with... just for updates.

[@Erox006]

it costs money to change start menu theme ?

[@OhnoJamz]

I have 5 operating pcs and I hate windows 11 I just have it to learn on it but after a few years it’s garbage 1 it’s not user friendly 2 everytime you right click on a file the options icon is so close together that you accidentally left click the wrong option . The icons inside folders even set at large settings doesn’t show a full picture either . I got so upset with it on my personal pc that I reverted to windows 10 and I am super happy because all my folders shows the full pictures and if I ever make a mistake while right clicking a file it will ask me are you sure this what you want to do ? it is much more user friendly . I have no idea why they even made windows 11 they should have just updated 10 to have extra attachment that’s what they originally planned .

[@lopserdff]

function keys can be annoying sometimes but if want to disable it click fn and esc

[@NTPTM]

Hej Brian yes i agree with you here i use Windows 11 23H2 Pro but i personally think Windows 11 is a very nice os so i use Windows 11 on one computer that has full support for Windows 11. And i run Windows 10 on a another computer that not have full suport for Windows 11 but, it can run Windows 11 unsupported even with the tougher system requirements for upcoming Windows 11 24H2. But I also think, as you say, many people complain about Windows 11 because there are quite tough system requirements for Windows 11 for full support. And also even harder system requirements coming for Windows 11 24H2 with the requirement that you, must have POPCNT in the Cpu. And no workarounds will work for computers that do not have that in the Cpu if you are going to install Windows 11 24H2 on a unsupported computer. And if we're talking about tracking, it's everywhere, you can't escape tracking completely, mobile phones track you a lot and many other devices take Brian and have a lovely sunday.

[@Paulzpc]

It took me a while to upgrade to Windows 11, I did it cheaply 209 dollars, I had to piece it together (desktop) with the things I wanted, an i3 8th gen and an AMD GPU with DDR4 ram, it took me a little while to find a good computer case, I finally found one and I am happy with it, I didn't want to buy a cheap looking expensive laptop or an overly bulky desktop or even a tiny computer just to have Windows 11 installed, you can upgrade without breaking the bank, thanks for the Video Brian good job.

[@Britec09]

Thanks

[@Thecody503]

Win 11 said it was "installed" this January. A few days ago from last week. It forced win 11 on me. I backed up my stuff and downloaded the media creation tool. I also had issues accessing my profile, so I had to turn off the "user profile service" that has two other services w it. Gave errors. Restart. Didn't work. Turned off/on, it worked. I had access then. I really think i had to turn off/on twice.

[@findmi2708]

I have a question, should i download my mobo chipset update? After i clean format my system? Coz its so confusing what to download for mobos update its so many versions

[@IoannisKotsaridis]

Yes, you do need to download the chipset drivers again. But if you talk about bios update, no you don't need to download it again.

[@randallmacdonald4851]

I have W10 on my gaming rig and W7 on my House Server (that I use if not gaming.) I've had W7 since it came out 25 years ago. I've never been virus infected nor malware infected in all those years of daily use. And, believe it or not, I have no anti-virus running on it nor have I ever. Any time I stray from my one game I use W10, I find the hatred for W10 increased. Even when I am gaming, it's a... taking a break so I don't post foul language here... bad thing when W10 interrupts my game to tell me that an update needs to be done. Or when a try an add-on to the game and it turns out bad so I uninstall it only to see a file left on C:drive. I go to delete it and W10 tells me, the owner and administrator of MY machine, that I don't have permission to delete that file. Several times, I have been so angry that I was tempted to simple turn off W10 and burn the entire machine. As for W11? My gaming rig still, after 6 years, has the speed that the fastest CPU's out there are only a tiny bit faster yet... (more foul language thoughts)... my $4,000 5.1 GHz, top of the line nVidia card, M.2 drive gaming rig will be forced to go back to W7 because I don't have the system that W11 owners want me to have. (Place here much more bad foul language directed at that monopoly company.)

[@joistein]

It is not environmentally friendly to force us to throw millions of Windows 10 computers in the landfill to upgrade to Windows 11.

[@timetorelaxfocus9642]

Won't O&O SU10++ manage the privacy settings easily?

[@wonderwomen7673]

I am over 70 years old, it's not easy to learn how to use the new windows 11, I can't find anything, they have renamed a few things and moved thing, with windows 10 there was a menu on the left and all you had to do is scroll and click to what you wanted to use, now in windows 11 when you click on start you only see what micrsoft has added, now being over 70 my brain isn't as quick as some of you youngsters. I do not like this new look in the middle, taking the menu away has confused me no end. have to click far to many time to find anything. God knows if they bring out windows 12. I will not be upgrading anymore.

[@wally6193]

I'm running win10 Pro, is the win 11 a free update to 11pro or to 24H2? or do you have to pay for another Key? Thanks

[@kushagrabhandari]

it should be free, i got it as a free upgrade in the updates section of settings

[@unkown34x33]

yeah I game very well on win 11. of course because my machine it's strong... most people that have these drops are because the optimization, or their system it's weak. But hey Microsoft was also hated right? in a way or another

[@SnowKing1823]

The reason im refusing to upgrade. Is because my specialty controller (wheel , joysticks etc) are not compatible with Windows 11. So untill the day i have to, ill stay at W10. After which i also have to upgrade to newer controllers.

[@kenweber2162]

I have a desktop running Windows 11 and a laptop running Windows 10. I'll probably just put ChromeOS Flex on the laptop next year and remote into the desktop when I need a Windows program.