BSG Deadlock: Mercury Class (Pegasus) vs 2 basestars

Battlestar Galactica Deadlock: store.steampowered.com/app/54...
Modern Ships pack: store.steampowered.com/app/13...

[@redshirt5126]

Cylon basestar: "Have they told you who i am?" Battlestar Pegasus: "Some dead man!"

[@Tiirshak]

feels weird seeing the modern raiders without the distinct howl of their engines, still a good video anyway

[@jonharper4478]

Gunnery officers on the Beast need to get their eyes checked. They missed more than half their shots at close to point blank range. Aside from that, its a thing of beauty to see the Pegasus.

[@safety_doggo2]

@Ryan Serdan “Hey teach, so how do we plot ballistic trajectories-“ “I AM BY COLONIAL LAW FORBIDDEN TO TEACH IT AS IT VIOLATES THE LAW OF BALANCE”

[@theloweffortchannel7211]

Do remember that aiming in space, especially at even a somewhat long range, is extremely difficult. Hitting accurately would need better targeting computers, which would risk Cylons hacking the entire system.

[@imperiousrex128]

@@theloweffortchannel7211 Joke aside, this is true. Which is one of the reasons why Halo AI is really important to the UNSC and why we see a lot of broadsiding in Star Wars.

[@JeanLucCaptain]

This is NO BUCKET, NO BUCKET! Loving how the Basestars are actually taking advantage of their advanced FTL to repeatedly jump out of danger.

[@pioneer_1148]

Their problem that they are totally reliant on missiles and fighters, both of which are hard countered by the flak screen. There simply isn't anything they can do. Their only chance is to get one base star on either flank of the Pegasus and any Battlestar commander worth their salt can prevent them from doing that.

[@JeanLucCaptain]

@@pioneer_1148 and the Modern Basestar has only two missiles slots which makes No sense.

[@logion567]

Yeah, the modern basestars only party trick compared to the earlier ones are the "marginally" better raiders, and hull regen making them surprisingly tanky, but get on top of them to pummel thier engineering and they'll still die. And they WILL run out of missiles eventually. Give them munition regen and a price hike and they'll be good.

[@darrenlaker3204]

They should be offensively jumping so at least one basestar is on the side with no flak. Then at least half of the missile attacks will get through. Bad AI

[@JeanLucCaptain]

@@darrenlaker3204 BY YOUR COMMAND. RE-TASKING ALL JUMP DRIVES!

[@trekker2001]

4:09 I just love that camera view here!

[@jordanrocksdj]

Imagine if the game was real -time strategy and you could actively control your ship and its powerful weaponry.

[@noneedtoknow07]

You may like a game called Dreadnought. It's not an RTS but it involves controlling your ship and duking it out with other big ships.

[@jordanrocksdj]

I tried it a few weeks ago and it’s pretty cool. Did you ever play Battlestations: Midway 10 or so years ago? You control ships, destroyers, subs, and carriers and can take direct control of ships including the fighters launched from carriers. If you don’t actively aim your guns while in control the AI takes over and fires at targets in range. It was a great game.

[@arhonvalran1551]

@@jordanrocksdj So maybe this one: Nexus: The Jupiter Incident ?

[@CapitanoAraym]

I just put my hands on the "Modern Ships" DLC: first battle I made, in skirmish, was Galactica (Jupiter-class Mk.2) and Pegasus (Mercury-class) vs 4 Cylon Basestars, as the battle of New Caprica. Even if fully loaded with missiles and cluster-nuke the 2 Colonial Battlestars' flaks were basically impenetrable both to them and all the cylon fighters (I kept just the Jupiter as "frontliner", to make it aggroed by all the 4 Basestars, and her flaks were even too much). Once they had no more missiles, it was just a steamroll...

[@WildCharger]

It does feel a bit of an exaggeration in this game how utterly impenetrable flak shields are when boosted by posture. We could theoretically give whatever excuse we wanted - but I think the most realistic one is that, in an actual scenario of this magnitude, there would be at least a couple missiles that get through, and ammunition to deploy flak would not be infinite. But those are sort of the things you have to allow leeway for because game logic. If it was 100% fully faithful to reality, it’s not, because at least a small majority of the civilian ships, even in the reimagined Galactica, have nothing to arrest their own momentum. If it was 100% faithful to the show, then I highly doubt they’d want to just run the clock and hope that the Basestars just.. run out of missiles eventually, whilst a much larger amount of Raiders use overwhelming numbers to at least put a heavy dent in Viper numbers, or strategically take out a ship’s FTL, etc. There’s a lot of possibilities.

[@krypteralpha5358]

I never thought I’d see the day, glad she’s here!

[@pjherald6096]

Base one: "His Computer's off. Pj, you switched off your targeting Computer, What's wrong?" Pj: "Nothing, I'm alright."

[@johnsteiner3417]

It occurs to me that, after years of the show and these games, we've never once heard, "Frakking flak."

[@oldsportthekiddiestrangler7566]

My strategy for this battle if I was the Cylons would've been to make a quick jump to the rear of the mercury class ship, keeping some distance to not get vaporized by the guns. And then fire off my nukes. And if they started the flak I'd then put my raiders to defend my ships from the incoming ordinance(so I don't lose one of my only defenses against ordinance). With the Mercury either dead or heavily wounded. I'd keep peppering it while having another Basestar make a quick jump and fire off the ordinance. Killing the ship while keeping my distance from enemy ships. And if they turn, I keep jumping to the opposite sides making sure to be hitting from 2 separate sides. And I'd make sure to hack some systems. Especially the weapons to be able to get a better range and shut down the Armory preventing flak from vaporizing my missiles.

[@ferriusnillan5323]

That MIRV's flying into the flack was very nasty move tbh, but very clever too. What would me even clever is to jump above and below Pegasus and overwhelm it systems with hack, being just at the range to use it to shutdown its weapons, propulsion and the rest of the ship following the suit.

[@89BlackGatomon]

Awesome fight, i wonder if it is because of the class of the ship of me being to passive, but i probably would have survived the battle in worse a shape of the ship.

[@killianmiller6107]

Should have rammed the second basestar

[@bcmm1880]

Ok Apollo

[@spenjak18]

Uhh... no. Unlike Apollo that commander isn't stupid enough to waste such a valuable asset like a fucking MERCURY CLASS.

[@fredlandry6170]

Oh Pegasus how I love thee.

[@Toemelsen]

4:10 beatiful :P

[@bladerunner3314]

In Battletech, I was once asked, why I dedicate so much tonnage to AMS and point defense weaponry instead of going just for capital weapons. True, in that game a war ship can take a lot of punishment, but if you can stay in the game for a few round longer those defense weapons will benefit more than one capital weapon.

[@brettglover135]

do you think that Star Wars tactics like the Marg Sabl closure maneuver and the Ackbar slash could work in Battlestar Galactica deadlock?

[@bladerunner3314]

@@brettglover135 No clue, never played Deadlock, I just like BSG ... I have the game, just not played until now.

[@masakata7040]

i have always sad it basestars are the worst capital ship ever created

[@promnightdumpsterbaby9553]

I've defeated 4 basesships with my peggy ;) on fire and all squadrons dead,but i did it.

[@mikiroony]

If Caprica Six hadn't succeeded in her missions, the toasters would have gotten massive casualties. Can do you a battle with Valkyries in the equation? That's a completely modern BGS.

[@daniell89]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnrFnqOnprStb9U&ab Here it is! Valkyrie is a small and rather weak Battlestar though.

[@daniell89]

And here is 4 Valkyries vs 2 basestars kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqqYh4aKjcalpZo

[@SgmScraps]

I tried such a battle myself with the new increased fleet points. 2 Mercuries, a Jupiter MkII, 2 Valkeries, and 2 Minitors. It was a walk over. Tried it from the Cylon side for fairness. The only way I could win was by proving how right Adama was when he said "The ship itself is a weapon!"

[@KillerofGods]

@@SgmScraps The only way you could win as the Cylons or the colonials?

[@adamboh393]

Cyclons. Modern Basesstars have no guns the only way to win is to overwhelm the enemy and flank them.

[@Gorilla26645]

The music is amazing? What is it called?

[@daniell89]

It's the BSG Deadlock Original Soundtrack.

[@Phrancis5]

@@daniell89 Reminds me of the Middle Eastern style soundtracks used in old Home World RTS games.

[@felixleong61]

More specifically, BSG deadlock skirmish 1 theme

[@DanielRMueller]

I kinda feel the balancing of the Modern Basestars could use some tweaking. Once they run out of missiles*, they are basically useless. The Battlestar can turn off his flak and engage them head-on. They should probably have a regenerating missile supply that regenerates more slowly than the usual missile cooldown, at least for standand guiding missiles or torpedoes. *) realistically, they should at some point, but we never see any engagement in the series where the fight lasts that long, just as the Galactica and Pegasus never seemed to run out of Flak ammo during an engagement.

[@disastergoblin65]

Jesus, how many nukes did that thing take?

[@robertgreen2658]

If they hadn't sabotage the computers onthe other ships it would have beena short war.

[@jordanrocksdj]

You should’ve used three baseships

[@daniell89]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2WUm6p9hM5qsLs&ab_channel=DanielL Well, I did :)

[@jordanrocksdj]

I tried to see if I could beat 3 Basestars with a Mercury Battlestar. I couldn’t. Although I didn’t use nukes and I’m not good at strategy. I did pit a Jupiter against two basestars and I won that at least.

[@bigwhopper6501]

@@jordanrocksdj I did 1 mercury vs 4 base stars and won.

[@bigwhopper6501]

Is the voice chatter a mod?

[@daniell89]

no

[@jovanblackman2608]

5:48 Jump away from that now you bastard

[@wargasm2475]

So the Basestars only send out a few Raiders and launch a few nuke barrages that don't make it past the flak it seems. Then they just stop firing, never send out any additional Raiders, and just wait to be destroyed. How Colonial.

[@daniell89]

They send out all their raiders and expend all their nukes and missiles.

[@martinostermann8676]

Sperrmüll.

[@1c3manBG]

is it just me or the Homeworld mod is way better than this?

[@PS-mw9cc]

Nah bro, I like the mod, but Deadlock is far superior. Of course, they both excel at different things

[@augurseer]

Different style for different games. Both great