Varied Not Random

[@samuele.marcora]

Finally an informed voice of reason about this topic. Brava!!!

[@justrione]

Good morning Sir

[@jeff_howard_afk]

I'd like to know more about the functions GLP1 has with grhelin and leptin? Also, does the increase in insulin production help with reliance on insulin shots? Does it make sense to keep insulin levels low for a diabetic instead? It seems very "it depends" on if someone should take it for who is supposed to, let alone people wanting it for vanity reason.

[@alexandraschultz3016]

Unfortunately the bulk of people I know who are using this are using it for vanity reasons and this is a big concern. I also think at the end of the day, the problem with these pharmaceuticals, is just cause people are losing weight doesn’t necessarily mean they are getting “healthier” or more interested in sustainable health over their life/eating whole foods/exercising/having an active/healthy lifestyle. they can still eat the processed junk foods in “small quantities” and not engage in fitness but lose weight with the drug. What Pat said about not being able to workout intensely, also brings other worries into light. This “solution” doesn’t mean they are getting what their body needs for nutrients and health. I think the system needs more assistance for true health(not talking specifically about weight) that isn’t solely dependent on a pharmaceutical 🤷🏻‍♀️just my 2 cents and probably a controversial opinion

[@spencergsmith]

I think understanding the reasons behind the average weight loss of diet & exercise vs. pharmaceutical intervention vs. bariatric surgery is vital. Sure, the average weight loss for D&E might be 5%, but what cases does that include? People who’ve tried to lose weight and given up after 2 weeks? Of course D&E is the harder choice, so many people are going to choose the “easier” route of pharmaceuticals or surgery, and will be compliant with those protocols more than they would with D&E.