Redcat Gen8 Production Portal Axles - How they differ from Preproduction

[@TandemCTelevision]

I'm glad to see Redcat listening and making needed updates.

[@papecat]

Just bought a redcat 7 for my son for xmas but might get the gen 8 for myself soon. I'm new to RC crawlers but have been into RC aircraft since 1985 and had my fair share of full size crawlers in the past.

[@MrtipRC]

I'll wait a few months to see what other issues the Gen 8 will have before I buy one ! Thanks for the review .

[@ShenRC]

😃👍Cool! looks like redcat made it much better now! Nice video showing the differences.

[@BlackSmithRC]

Great in-depth video bro! The Gen8 is looking great for 2019!

[@fastkrt10]

Nice studio. Good info on the portals. I am waiting on the gen 8 to come out. It's going to be a great rig. Merry Christmas

[@nemesis8664]

Subscribed! I really like how do you explain things. Plain and simple to understand. Great vid; Keep them up,buddy!

[@slimfatpat]

Thanks for the info. I just bought a set of the beta axle set on ebay for $40 shipped. And was wondering why the gears are so notchy. Thanks for the tip on the diff housing.

[@toyota78]

I'm sorry excited to buy some portals for my Gen 7!

[@seansrcconstruction]

Great review can’t wait to update my Gen7

[@Endlesszem]

Thanks for the information,did help

[@jpslayer2016]

Red cat did a good job beefing it up.

[@jayhagan8562]

Shouldn't have needed it. Can't believe they thought that gear would hold

[@STEVOD313]

Im excited to see how the gen8 does, I might have to pick one up. Merry Christmas

[@optimusdude]

Yeah gotta start saving my pennies too Stevo

[@BOTAJELL]

Can’t wait to get my Gen 8 Boys ! People are going to be shocked at me since I only do Gas ⛽️ and Modified Nitro Engines RC’s lmao 😂! I’ve always had a thing for crawlers special place for them in my hart. I’ve had some crawlers 3 to 5 years ago I had Axial’s and a crappy Summit and even a home made customized LST with a Nitro Engine that had Reverse, 2 speed really low gear ⚙️ ratios and another set of 2speed with hi gear ⚙️ ratios so it was a 4 speed at the end of the day and I locked the slipper clutch and used Shoe Goo glue on the front and rear diffs . I swear it out lasted and out performed both of my traxxas summits lol 😆! This was a great 👍 video and very well explained hope you guys had a merry Christmas 🎄🎁! Once I get my Gen 8 maybe you guys can tell me what to get or recommend . I will always be a Brappp ⛽️💥💨 head but I will definitely get more crawlers in the future.

[@BOTAJELL]

STEVO D 313 I see you all over the place Stevo lol your a busy man!

[@STEVOD313]

LOL U gotta be busy man too, if ur seeing me everywhere then u must be in just as many places lol also means u got great taste in rc videos🤣Happy Holidays brotha

[@BOTAJELL]

STEVO D 313 haha 🤣👍💥!

[@vincevargas7892]

Great detailed review..nice studio also👍.. Definitely getting the Gen8 after I upgrade my Gen7 with the Portal Axle kit. That BPC chassis along with the portals...going to be a fun upgrade to install.

[@AngryTurds]

Been considering these axles or trx4 to use on our Everest 10. It's been turned into a scaler, rolling on

[@MicroScaleGarage]

love it bro this upgrade looks epic

[@bobbymccourt6794]

Quick question about the notchy gear issue. I'm just wondering if water getting into the diff may be an issue if you back off the screws a little or clearance the carrier like you did? Would packing the housings with grerase eliminate any concern? Again, love the channel! Keep up the great vids!

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

The diffs aren't water tight, so water will get in anyway. If you go through a lot of water, packing the axles full of grease will help to keep it out.

[@frankmartin5171]

Realy cool Crawler Cars guys ! I like it very much ;o)

[@ozboy8144]

1s😁 Great review Very in depth. On the portals looking to upgrade my Gen-7 with them when they come out and looking forward to getting my Gen-8 when it finally get here 😁

[@faithfamilyfriendsforever6777]

Great vid😊

[@bobbylaw3928]

Any videos on the installation of the servo mount?

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

I don't. That part is very simple, and should be well documented in Redcat's installation manual.

[@bobbylaw3928]

@@BudgetRC_Channel thanks for the tip. I'll check my book.

[@YYCRCFabricationz]

Excellent update video Brother, the new studio looks wicked as well.

[@oldsjunkie1]

Did you notice the panhard is a little too long? It's not adjustable and it throws my front housing to the passenger side a good 1/4" and the bumpsteer is terrible. Bad enough to push the driver's lower link into the frame rail. Got in on the pre-order for the new portal upgrade kit. Got em today and am a bit disappointed in what it's done to my nearly perfectly tuned truck for my $100...

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

I definitely noticed that something is jacked up, but I haven't had time to see what yet. On throttle the whole truck leans hard to the left and it drives me nuts. I get huge tire rub from it.

[@oldsjunkie1]

@@BudgetRC_Channel So I took the dremel after the panhard and took off about 1/16" or so. It helped with the bumpsteer a fair bit. I'm running into the steering link binding at the horn and not allowing full drop of the passenger front as well. I think an angled rod end and a couple shims to lengthen the arm will remedy it. The panhard and steering link are the same part out of the box and everything is assembled in the upgrade kit, so they saved an extra assembly, but threw a bunch of bind in the front geometry.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

@@oldsjunkie1 good info. I need to spend some time with the front end, and your insight will help a lot. Thanks!

[@oldsjunkie1]

@@BudgetRC_Channel No problem man. You put a lot of time in you videos so if it helps at all, then all the better. What I've figured out is that with a stock spring and shock truck the issues on the panhard may not be as bad, but the steering link bind will be worse. I run my Gen 7 with a ton of droop, which was making the panhard long sitting level and static. When you take the extra front upper link off you can move the angled ball end to the horn end of the steering link and help the bind, but may still require some shimming to add length. In addition to cutting the 1/16" off the panhard, I had to space it off the axle housing mount with just under 3/8" !! of spacers to keep the lower end of the pandard from hitting the frame at the lower corner at full compression. Got most everything working but the bumpsteer is inevitable with a servo on chassis setup...

[@UndisputedFrost]

Would you recommend a gen 8 or a scx10 ii deadbolt for someone new to crawlers?

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

It's a little bit hard to say since the Gen8 isn't out yet for us to get a real world account of capabilities or durability, but based on the info that I have and my experience with the portals, I'd say it depends. The Deadbolt has the benefit of a massive aftermarket, so parts support and upgrade potential is essentially limitless, but overall I'd say that's where the Deadbolt advantages end. I would expect the Gen8 to be a much more capable truck out of the box, and should have adequate parts support directly from Redcat.

[@sudsrc8261]

Your channel is simply outstanding. Smart & informative. Can't wait to see your review on the Gen 8. Thanks. Quick Q. I'm usually of the belief that the less parts something has, the less chance there is of something to break. Would this be a fair assessment or question to ask? Will crawlers with portal axles, despite being better for crawling with the clearance, fundamentally be more prone to breaks? Curious on your thoughts. Thanks.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Generally yes, the more parts there are, the better the design and manufacturing has to be to maintain a certain reliability. One could argue that a stone wheel is more reliable than a steel wheel and a rubber tire, but we've accepted that the benefits of a wheel and tire are worth the potential tradeoff in reliability. It's up to the market to decide whether the portals are worth the potential loss of reliability. The popularity of the TRX4, combined with the lack of portal problems would indicate that portals can be very reliable when executed properly.

[@liquid815]

Great job with the honest info, keeping it real. not phony acting with poor beats,/sounds that crank up 10 db on the 10 ads inserted in a 4 minute vid... keep it real . subd and thumbed. BTW how did you get the upgraded part? any links? Im tired of buying replacements (OEM) thankfully LHS has plenty available.,

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Redcat provided the replacement parts to everybody who participated in the Beta portal program. The replacement parts are exactly the same as what now comes in the portal kit and on the Gen8.

[@liquid815]

Thanks for clarifying. My Gen 8 has been great with zero issues... great rig, no regrets on the purchase.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

@@liquid815 mine's been good so far, but I also haven't been able to use it hardly at all.

[@ka4172]

Only the use will show how robust the updates are,but they look not bad. I run my TRX4 hard (rock an river crawling) and non part breaks even non in the portals.If Red Cat can compete only time will tell,but i like the Scout very much for look ,equippment and the prize this can be a change in the scale crawler market .

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

You're right. Time will tell, but the updates are a huge improvement over the original design. The portals did great on an easy trail drive today. They even survived my 6 year old driving on 3s.

[@johnfulwider7510]

The pinion gear in the rear is weak. Needs to be a more hardened metal. Broke mine when I changed to a steel 1.9 wheel.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Interesting. You're the only one I've heard with that problem. Guys are breaking the new upper portal gear in the fronts, but I never heard of anybody breaking a pinion. Maybe yours was a fluke.

[@johnfulwider7510]

I asked the question on there Gen8 Facebook page and was told it was a common problem. I wouldn’t know really as I’m new to the hobby. I wasn’t doing anything crazy either. I did basically the same night run as in my video on that Facebook page. I did go through some light mud and water in my ditch. But nothing crazy.....they covered it though, without any questions. Just asked for a pic.

[@oldsjunkie1]

Nice work on the vids and the new studio! Can we assume the portal kit will still be in the $100 area, or has Redcat said anything further? I really do like my Gen7, but I'm on the fence with the new truck. The entry price point on Redcat's stuff is great, but I'm running into small issues that I'm not sure I would have seen by spending the extra on a different rig to start with. The bearing sizes they're using are quite small for their applications and I've blown out 3 wheel bearings over a few weeks. Ended up just putting Fast Eddie's sealed bearings in the whole truck and hoping for the best. Putting some serious stress on em at a full lock descent though...Driveshaft U-joints are soft and wear SUPER fast as well. Hot racing shafts solved that issue and I think it's going to be a reliable rig, but I'm close to a SCX10.2 kit build price range here considering I can get comparable electronics dirt cheap. I'd like to go with the portals and hope to hear longer term updates on their hopefully new found durability before I decide if I'm putting aftermarket assemblies in the rig or what. Thanks!

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

The new axles have some small bearings in the portals, but they're pretty well sealed up. The new Gen8s are supposed to come with rubber sealed bearings, which should help with durability. The portals are showing up on Redcat's site at $100. There's a link in my video description.

[@oldsjunkie1]

@@BudgetRC_Channel I should have expanded your description and noticed the link. Thanks. Looks like they come with a slipper and shock mounts as well as the chassis mount servo set up. Seems worth the scratch.

[@johndanza2]

Also what degree of turn are you getting on the portals

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

I haven't measured it, but it's at least as good as the Gen8.

[@johndanza2]

Awesome that's pretty much what I was looking for I have 4 kids bought 3 ecx temper gen2 s for them and build a mini crawler course outback but now my little guy and I need one to have fun with together so I was looking at the gen 7 or gen8 but just didn't wanna fork up the gen8 money just yet

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

@@johndanza2 just keep in mind that my Gen7 has the portal axle kit. I have more money into my Gen7 than the Gen8. The stock Gen7 Pro is a good truck for $250, but at $300, the Gen8 is definitely the better value.

[@johndanza2]

If I could request a vs video ur upgraded gen7 to the stock gen8

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

It's something that I've wanted to do, but I need to swap back to the Gen7 axles first. With the portals installed, there isn't a big difference.

[@drummerdad80]

I want a gen 8 it will be my first crawler, almost got the gen 7 then i the gen 8 vidoes started coming out so i decided to wait

[@OutdoorsWithShawn]

As much slack as RedCat gets, I may look into a Gen8. Glad they are getting away from pot metal and actually machining parts now.

[@faithfamilyfriendsforever6777]

Whats the parts bag called as i need one thanks

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Parts bag? Not sure I follow.

[@DoRC]

Im guessing the updated spool is also a sintered metal piece. It just started larger and had more machining done to it. Could be wrong. Itd have to get under a microscope to be sure.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Maybe, but I don't think so. I don't see why you'd go through all the effort of machining non-critical dimensions on a sintered part.

[@skynet859]

It's such a shame that Redcat is so expensive over here in Germany. And since it's almost the price of an Axial or Traxxas over here, it doesn't get much love.

[@saabaton169]

Very nice work, unfortunately we won't be able to get these cuz Traxxas will just sue redcat

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

For what? As far as I know, nothing on this truck infringes on any Traxxas patents. Their portal design is not the same as that of Traxxas.

[@saabaton169]

They sued arrma cuz their truck with laid down shocks was better than traxxas, if redcats portal axles turn out brtter than the ones on the trx4 then redcat will likely be sued too even tho traxxas didnt invent horizontal pushrod suspension or portal axles

[@BLACKBOX1004]

nice video👍👍

[@BullgearRCvideos]

Good review brother. Redcat is going to sell Gen8 by the truck loads👍

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

I think you're absolutely right. The Gen7 was a huge success for them, and so far the Gen8 is looking like it has the potential to be a giant killer.

[@puzzleluvr]

By the boat load you mean? 🤣

[@krashkingrc9715]

First time watching nice video very helpful

[@INMGRC]

Good video i saw fun this video big thumbs up my friend XD

[@arshithas.p3288]

I like offroad

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

I'm having a hard time convincing the "cool kids" over at RCCrawler.... I'm done with them anyway, but the Gen 8 Axles are NOT the Gen 7, Beta Testing Version Axles!!! 😱😱 They're stronger. Beefier. Have MOD 1 GEARS..... And in just about every other way, BETTER! Redcat REALLY did their homework, and LISTENED to US. Something that Axial and Vaterra stopped doing YEARS ago. KUDOS to the Guys at Redcat!! They're really shaking things up. Even though $300 is an excellent Price Point, even a deal for what's included.... I won't be able to afford one. 😞 It's the way my life is now, it's going to stay that way for who knows how much longer.... I can't fix it. BUT - I hope all of you enjoy yours, and that it's everything that I believe it is!! Have FUN!! 👍👍😉 I would have one in a HEARTBEAT, if i could...... HAPPY 2019!!! 🎆🍻🎉🍺 Carmine 💥 ⛽

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

There will always be skeptics and that's fine. Their skepticism doesn't impact my enjoyment of my toys one bit. 😛

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

BTW, that was really cool of Redcat to hook you up with those Gen 8 HD parts for your Gen 7!!! Thanks for being one of the guys who did the Beta Testing. I WISH I had the Cash back then, to have gotten in on that..... I wish I could have been able to afford a Gen 7..... 😞😮😢 It is what it is, I guess......

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

AMEN to that!!!! 👍👍

[@ironforgerc4799]

It is safe to say ALL the Gen 8's will ship with the upgrades? Or will the first batch have the older style portals? I'm seeing some Gen8's listed as in stock in stores. This makes me think there might be some early release models out there with the old-style portals.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

They will all have the new style. The old style was a pre-production version that was upgraded specifically to address the issues that the beta testers found.

[@ironforgerc4799]

@@BudgetRC_Channel Great thank you. Do you know when to expect the Gen 8's to be in stores? I see a few on Ebay, but it's hard to trust some of these small retailers with low feedback when none of the big stores have them in stock yet.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

@@ironforgerc4799 they should be showing up this month. Their first 2 shipments are already accounted for, but some of the retailers that claimed them may still have some available in the first batches.

[@ironforgerc4799]

@@BudgetRC_Channel Thank You! I'm trying to track down a vendor that has units available. If you happen to find one let me know (don't care which color)!

[@kkulkkeoggirl]

👍👍👍💕

[@ericcxxxx]

Hello i like your channel but it not at my budget, my budget is lower than your. And I would love to get in to crawling, but I don't have the money for that, but I was able to get the wpl c24 kit and slowly building it to crawl, but right now I have no electric for it or remote control, I love working on RC, I have 5 I'm working on now, but no electric for any of them so any help will be appreciated thanks.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

I hace one of the WPLs, but it's more of a toy grade truck and not something that I have much interest in. There are a lot of videos already on KZbin for tgose trucks that should be very helpful.

[@OutdoorsWithShawn]

There's a WPL group on FB. There's tons of info on there on motors and electronics.

[@ericcxxxx]

@@OutdoorsWithShawn can you send me a link to them

[@OutdoorsWithShawn]

@@ericcxxxx WPL RC Builds and Mods facebook.com/groups/195165631045184/?ref=share

[@remotemayhem8170]

Got my redcat as my profile pic

[@2x4barrels40]

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[@BudgetRC_Channel]

KZbin controls the ads, not me!