Building a 30ah scib lto lithium battery bank 2.9ah cells

[@alanclark9000]

The only video on the same cells. Wtf car audio people. Thanks for showing a build.

[@KvnWlsn]

Awesome video. I've never seen one of these put together until now. I have a 320 Brand X alt and charge at 14.8v I'm currently using Headway but was curious to know what other lithium banks are available in my charging range?

[@808PatAnderson]

I’m interested to see how the new sodium batteries will perform. Probably be to new best option for 14.8v range

[@Lost3DPrints]

Could you explain why people use the 2.9ah 75c cells? I would think the 20ah 35c cells would be a more cost-effective bank. Doubling you ah should in turn almost double your c rating. Or at least the 10ah 75c cells. Just seems like a shit load of cells for 30ah vs 18cells with the 10ah 75c cells.

[@SlamryCamry19]

I've been contacting a lot of people here lately researching these and other cells trying to find the absolute best cells on the market and apparently the 2.9 AH cells are the ones that are actually 75c they have a 75c rating on the 10AH cells as well but that is a burst discharge rating not continuous discharge rate like the 2.9AH cells I myself purchased this same bank from NORTHWEST LITHIUM because of the exact reason states above the actual 75c rating instead of a burst discharge rating

[@crazzipolyps1243]

Hey, how much pounds of pressure do you use to tighten the nuts? Also, what do you use to build a case in out of? Thanks

[@GTILOUD]

Wood and hand tight don't use a tq wrench

[@SlamryCamry19]

How did you top balance before assembly or do you need to can you assemble and mount the balancer and allow it to do it for you just wondering the 43.5 arrived this morning and I am trying to make sure I do it right

[@808PatAnderson]

@@SlamryCamry19 the cells were close enough in voltage they didn’t require top balance

[@SouthernSilverExchange]

@@808PatAndersonI just went thru 180 cells and they were all between 2.58-2.60. I’m not gonna bother top balancing I don’t think

[@808PatAnderson]

@@SouthernSilverExchange send it 👍🏽

[@gainz6226]

I seen your charging video on this lithium battery. How exactly do i charge each individual cell? Up to how many volts should i charge it too and also how many amps do i set it too since its a small cell?

[@808PatAnderson]

That’d take forever lol If cells are close together in voltage they should be fine to assemble. 2.54 2.55 2.56 just example. Then charge bank. If cells are not that close then top balance them. Subscribe to the channel and feel free to ask any questions

[@gainz6226]

@808patanderson ok so to top balance them wouldn't that require running wire in parallel all positive and all negative to each cell which is 60 total cells that would also take a long time doing . U think I'll be ok as long as all are at 2.5 volts even if they read 2.52 2.54 2.56 2.58v all are at 2.5v nothing lower

[@808PatAnderson]

@@gainz6226 they’d probably be okay. Could always just top balance the lowest and highest to meet in the middle. I spend a lot of time and money on this so I try not to cut too many corners

[@guwop3310]

What do u think of the lishen lifepo4 cells. I am debating between these scib or the lishen Prismatic banks. I can run from 14.4-15.8 volts

[@808PatAnderson]

Scib at 15.5-15.8. It will out perform lishen by a lot

[@808PatAnderson]

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[@guwop3310]

@808patanderson will that bank u built on this video be good for 8,000-10,000 watts with a 260 amp alternator? Also I seen they say the scib work good from 14.4-16.2 volts. So I wouldn't be good at around 14.8?

[@808PatAnderson]

@@guwop3310 needs to be charging at 15.5+ to get most out of it. It’d be okay for 8k

[@guwop3310]

​@@808PatAndersonthanks I subscribed to your channel

[@Evo-ed7hw]

I got these cells from sriko. Got the diy kit comes with everything. Just wanted to know if spacers a really needed becuase sriko does not include spacers with this kit

[@808PatAnderson]

They’re just specific to the bars

[@Evo-ed7hw]

@808patanderson ok so spacers are not a safety thing I thought they were used as extra safety

[@808PatAnderson]

@@Evo-ed7hw not to my knowledge

[@Evo-ed7hw]

@808patanderson will a noco charger be ok to charge these cells. It has a lithium option? And running with a 15.5 volt alternator be good?

[@808PatAnderson]

@@Evo-ed7hw 15.5 is fine. Unsure on that charger. I made a video on charging these. You can watch it and get the same thing. Link should be In the description. It’s only about 30 bucks

[@keefsosa4992]

Is it ok to make a bank even if some of the cells read a little differently on my cells some read 2.52v 2.53v 2.55v 2.56v 2.58v all cells read around that range will it be ok to hook them up as is?

[@808PatAnderson]

It wouldn’t be a bad idea to top balance them to get them a little closer.

[@keefsosa4992]

@@808PatAnderson what would be the perfect voltage for each cell

[@808PatAnderson]

@@keefsosa4992 anywhere in that 2.5 range as long as they are close. If they were like 2.53 2.54 2.55 I’d just hook it up then charge bank once fully assembled with a balancer. Subscribe to the channel 🙏

[@Tsx-yb6ub]

Should these cells read at 2.4 - 2.5 volts each is that considered good? Is a reading of 0.41 volts a bad cell becuase i recived mine and one cell reads that

[@808PatAnderson]

You could try to slow charge it individually and see if it holds but I’d say it’s a bad cell. Easier to get a new one to replace it now than when it’s installed.

[@Tsx-yb6ub]

@808patanderson so is 2.5 volts a good reading? Also what can I charge the cell with?

[@808PatAnderson]

@@Tsx-yb6ub 2.5 is fine. Hit that subscribe button and check my charging lithium battery video

[@teewalker615]

What ate the dimensions of this back? And how many watts would it support with 320 amp alternator charging at 15.3?

[@808PatAnderson]

@@teewalker615 it’s actually in my buddy’s car for finals this weekend but it’s not very big. 30ah will support up to a 10k pretty good.

[@teewalker615]

I'm running like 26k. But only 10k is designated to bass. 2- Taramps 5k. Space is limited because it's going on a slingshot

[@SlamryCamry19]

When you were running this cell configuration how many watts was the battery able to handle im wondering because it is rated for 15,000 watts but a lot of people are telling me around 8k is a better rating for the battery on a continuous lvl but your videos are the only ones I can find on the 2.9 AH cells

[@808PatAnderson]

15000 is for a “burp”. Reserve runs out after a couple seconds . 30ah of scib for 8k is a solid rating given a 320amp alt or better

[@SlamryCamry19]

@@808PatAnderson ok thanks bro dually noted what is the lowest voltage you want to see on the bank to keep from damaging the cells I've been told if I drain them to far the cells can flip polarity

[@808PatAnderson]

@@SlamryCamry19 honestly I don’t know. Ideal to me is charging at least 15.5 but 15.8-16 is better and not dropping below 14.6 in my opinion. If I see 14.6 I’m backing off

[@SlamryCamry19]

@@808PatAnderson dually noted I was wondering if it was different from lifepo4 I'm still learning bro sorry for all the questions and thank you for all the help

[@808PatAnderson]

@@SlamryCamry19 no problem

[@SlamryCamry19]

Hey bro I just ordered a 43.5AH DIY kit from NORTHWEST LITHIUM of the M5 pedestal cells same AH 2.9 and it comes with everything Except the containment box how tight does the containment box need to be and will 72.5AH be enough for my end goal 20-25k RMS I'm trying to have the power supply completely out of the way so I can focus on the system itself

[@808PatAnderson]

@@SlamryCamry19 72.5 is what I was running in my set up. I’d say it’d be fine for that goal. And a snug fit on the box. Want to make it where you can mount it and the cell don’t slide out. IMO

[@SlamryCamry19]

@@808PatAnderson ok thanks bro I really need the power supply out of the way so I can focus on the build itself I wound up ordering a Ruthless 10k because the repair guy is having a hard time with the AAK and with them being discontinued I had to switch it up but they were telling me that the 29AH would possibly be at its limits with the 10k and 4 channel so I had to hold up on the install and get some reserves for what I'm trying to do I'm thinking 2x Ruthless 10k 2x Ruthless 1500.4 and a 800.4 end goal around 25k 4-6.5's in each door with two tweets and a dual 15" 4th or 6th I think with the right enclosure design it could be a nasty little build only time will tell though I'm on a budget so I have to get everything one piece at a time and finance a lot of it

[@808PatAnderson]

@@SlamryCamry19 yeah those amps really put out some power too. Once you get everything measured out you should reach out to hunter Martin for a design

[@SlamryCamry19]

@@808PatAnderson Hunter Martin ok thanks bro I will definitely do that I'm going to get this other bank in the car and wired up new fuse block and amp installed and probably just run this with minor mods to the front stage until April when we get our yearly bonus at work I'll be able to get the rest of the equipment and start on the enclosure design it takes time and it's almost Christmas time so I have to stop spending on the build and get the holidays taken care of I'm trying to get there bro thank you so much for all the help you give I wish there were more people like you in the audio community

[@SeanHall-h1n]

I was thinking of changing my lithium from headway to something better how are those holding up

[@808PatAnderson]

Night and day difference between headway and scib. They’re great

[@headhoncho4890]

I saw on Poppa Ts channel that you drive an Expedition how do you charge your Expedition that high? I’m trying to use a scib bank in my 08 Mustang

[@admoney3567]

Any good at 14.8v?

[@808PatAnderson]

15.5 is better

[@headhoncho4890]

Verynice. Could you build a case for my Scib bank?

[@808PatAnderson]

I like building them around the battery just in case size varies by bus bars and stuff. Where you located?

[@АртёмЕськов-б4я]

Гле купить такие ячейки ?

[@808PatAnderson]

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[@vetinger]

xa xa. The price of bar set is $160!!!

[@808PatAnderson]

Good quality too 👍🏽

[@lee28.78]

Are those the pedestal cells or the flat top cells..does it make a difference?

[@808PatAnderson]

Non pedestal. Pedestal cells have a slightly bigger stud so could probably carry a little more current in theory but have the same rating. Pedestal bars cost twice as much