Building a Cheap IRS 5 Speed Shifter Kart (with Reverse!) from a Trashed 4 Wheeler

[@FoolOfATuque]

The most important thing to remember running a lathe or mill is they don’t stop. Regardless of what gets in that chuck it’s not stopping. So make sure you don’t wear long sleeves while running one and keep your appendages away from it. Get yourself some good measuring tools and take your time.

[@bryduhbikeguy]

Well said.I used to train people to run lathes and read the equipment,(micrometers and calipers)so they did it right,and Safely.

[@fellenXD]

Also, NO GLOVES!!!

[@Doc_89]

And DONT forget the chuck key in the chuck and start it, easy to miss the tree in the forest.

[@newbornlog2789]

I was just going to say invest in your measuring tools I personally use mostly starret

[@DanITGuy]

Safety first! A lathe will chew you up and spit you out if you not careful! No strings or dangling things that could catch the chuck and ruin your day...

[@1hipcrip771]

Pretty cool guys. You could have chucked the 6 hole flange in the lathe then trapped the outputshaft in place with a live center (pointy bearing) in the tailstock which would keep the output shaft centered then tack and weld with the lathe turning very slowly...😉 Next time.

[@Deer-Run-Farms]

You took the words out of my mouth! I think Charles will end up being very good at machining stuff he seems like the kinda guy that has it in him.

[@MaxsGarajMahal]

Glad I started perusing the comments so I didn't duplicate.

[@rbproductions78]

Exactly what I was thinking. I have seen that done before

[@stevenmark8156]

Greet ideas, but you need to get that crankshaft out of there. Make a new straight replacement shaft on the lathe. That one is going to vibrate like crazy with no rod and piston. And it may not take the torque either depending on how it’s pressed together. You will be able to do wonders with that lathe! What a great addition to your shop! You also need a dial indicator.

[@jaredmism]

First thought after the low down at the beginning…. That’s ambitious 😮

[@noshsreqd]

I wanted to do something like this for my go cart back when i was a teenager, had an old blown up motor bike but didn't have the machining skills back then. got rid of the go cart and moved on to real cars before it happened. Cool to see this idea coming to fruition through you guys!

[@Jambroni_1]

you need to get a dial indicator, could of been used instead of a marker on the shaft. and is used to center a thing on a lathe with a 4 post chuck.

[@gavincline209]

THIS! 100% get a flexible holder and a magnetic base. 3 jaw chucks in theory self center, they do a lot of times, but always double check run out! Y’all are talking 0.001” of inches now. Big step up in precision and perfection is required for the full potential of that lathe.

[@pyromedichd1]

@@gavincline209 Typically a new 3 jaw chuck will center within .003". Since it's a scroll chuck as it wears it's ability to center gets worse and worse. A 4 jaw chuck, while more time consuming to center parts, can get you within a tenth (.0001") without too much fuss with practice. A good dial indicator and holder is critical. Even the best indicator is worthless without a good holder. IMHO a Noga holder is one of the very best.

[@gavincline209]

@@pyromedichd1 agreed. And they did say an old machine from an old machine shop, so I’d bet it more worn out then not. I figured throwing out the whole 4 jaw stuff was probably a bit much for them right now. They require more skills and experience to run, then someone new like them probably have. Would just make things more complicated on there learning curve then it needs to be. IMO

[@Jambroni_1]

@@gavincline209 I am in high-school and I took a machinetool class and my teacher made me use a 4 jaw. And sometimes a collet machine. After a few weeks u could center anything in like 3 minutes

[@gavincline209]

@@Jambroni_1 with a good teacher to show you and stuff, sure. I think I herd them say they had someone helping, but overall I’m kinda thinking they will just be figuring it all out on there own mostly.

[@doughills8024]

My recommendation is to do all welding with slightly oversized plates and shafts and then machine all critical surfaces afterwards. No matter how "good" you think the concentricity will be you will never get it completely correct. Out of true components will eventually start cracking and then fail. Also now that you have a lathe add bearing pockets and machine them for more high tech goodness. Respect the lathe! It's a great tool but will tear you up so fast you wont know what happened. NEVER pull chips out out of the way with your hands, NEVER EVER EVER!!! Those chips are like razor wire and will cut all the way to the bone. I've seen it happen.

[@WorldRoger]

The addition of a lathe to the shop is gonna open up a whole new world to your builds and allow you to fabricate things never before possible. Hope y'all used grade 8 hardened bolts in that flywheel plate to handle the stress?

[@rustyshackleford3099]

What about machining a new shaft to replace the entire crank. It would eliminate the rod and counterbalance as well? Just a thought.

[@plokmko0]

That cutoff con rod makes this a VIBRATION machine

[@CanDriveSoon]

I have concerns about the longevity of the bearings with all that abrasive disk dust and metal shavings in the engine case as well.

[@ronk1001]

Hey guys, running your drive power through the crankshaft will likely twist the counterweight of the crank and become violently out of alignment and destroying the end bearings and possibly the case, The rod journals on those are only pressed in and are not keyed or splined, I think the best way to do this would be using your new lathe and make your own shaft to drive the transmission, just a thought. Keep up the good work guys.

[@majorwedgie8166]

Maybe, but wouldn't that make some cool noises?.. and the thought of all that mechanical carnage!

[@musicauthority674]

I like the four wheel drive option, and I would definitely use it. even though it would be much more time consuming. I believe it would be so much better. to go with a solid steel shaft to replace the crankshaft. it would be so much stronger and you would get rid excess rotating mass.

[@kyleevink3294]

You three should made a tier list on some (more likely the most notable) builds you've created over the years and rank them all from favorite to least favorite.

[@brandonwyatt3901]

They do it every time at the end of the every video .

[@DIYivan04]

Great podcast content

[@jacksonwheel1464]

@@brandonwyatt3901 dude ive been watching these guys since before i was in hs and I'm in college now. please show me when they have other than a few race videos. i don't even know if they still have some of the old karts

[@Aaronferguson31]

Instead of welding the bearing to the plate, machine a cup with a flange that can retain the bearing. Make it bolt to the outer round plate. Replaceable bearing and protected.

[@FrozenToast396]

I ran a CnC Hardeing cobra 42 for may years, I also ran a manual lathe... the two things I can give for advise is makes usure your running the correct speeds and feed and the proper incerts for the material you are running and make sure everything is as true straight as possible. the 3 jaw you can manipulate in all different ways, uses a dial indicator to make sure its straight and true. watch some older Abom32 videos to learn and for the love of god make sure you use a center on the opposite end if its longer then and inch or so sticking out of the collet.

[@CarsandCameras]

So much potential!

[@Adude368]

Cool

[@damiencurl6198]

Pleat do dust bowl

[@joshuagibson2520]

Smoke another one! Fire it up!

[@tylerm124]

I really love how yall are slowly getting bigger and more complex tools and the projects also seem to follow the same trend. I cant wait to see what yall are doing in like 5 years with a full workshop.

[@jamespatterson7211]

The creatively is there. But what about the piston being cut off won’t that create an imbalance on the crank creating a vibration?

[@theengaged_gamer4118]

Finally I have been seeing this in the background of the past good few videos now. Keep it up. I have been viewing since ‘17.

[@spyder7758]

I dig the innovative workarounds using what's on hand. It reminds me a bit of one of my favorite old shows Junkyard Wars (previously Scrapheap Challenge from the UK)

[@justinoliver1984]

I remember junkyard wars! Loved that show... Believe it helped steer me towards engineering! The episode where they made the planes was incredible! The show winner went WELL ABOVE the height they stated. It was an awesome piece of kit!

[@thegreatgali1739]

Holy cow you guys have come such a long way in such a short time! It won't take long before you guys are machining some decent stuff. Ike has been such a good mentor for John, and now for Charles. Keep it up guys, you're really doing well and improving your skills!

[@ozone385]

Great Job Gents. A couple of hints get some micrometers, a 0-1", 1-2" will do you great service. Your digi calipers will be good enough for the larger work. A dial indicater with a magnetic base. When you attached the outer shaft you could have used it, but the keyway was in your way. Look up feed and speeds online or go to libraray and check to see if they have a machinist handbook. The larger the diameter the slower you turn the piece. smaller is faster. When facing a plate the FPS changes as you go in towards the center. Please be careful as that lathe will not stop with your arm in the way. No loose clothes, tatterd, ripped sleaves! Be extremly careful of STRING chips as they can wrap around you .

[@anon_user_vkx4680]

I have to say, I’ve watched your videos for yours and you guys always keep me entertained but the level of engineering and machining you guys have got to is incredible, kudos!

[@johnmclean8643]

Get a dial indicator with a magnetic 🧲 base to check runout in the lathe and on engines,jackshafts,welded extensions etc.

[@Dirty_Bits]

If you haven't already, you're gonna learn why you don't weld to bearing steel. That said, points for creativity on the rest of the adapter.

[@hunterdan2002]

I don't understand why they didn't just make a bearing support on the lathe and weld it on. The bearing would be press fit and they could have cut a small groove in the shaft for a snap ring to retain the bearing.

[@czdracing]

This is a great project, but you should definitely take the extra effort, split the cases, eliminate the crankshaft and make a new jackshaft. The stock crank without the rod and the piston is very unbalanced, the whole thing will vibrate a lot😅 Otherwise love your work, the lathe is a great add to the shop :)

[@Thomas-fo9zu]

Love that y'all are always evolving. That lathe set up is yet another step forward. You have come a long way.

[@SHADOWBEAR82763]

That lathe will take your creations to the next level for sure. Keep at it, guys!

[@dblizz68]

Did you guys ever, while working in John's parents' garage, consider you would be working with plasma table, lathe and other professional style fabrication equipment?!? I'm proud of you all for how far you've come.

[@sherxiong957]

Your crankshelf have offset weight to offset for the connecting rod and the piston. Since you cut off the connecting rao your crank shaft will have more weight on one side which will cause more vibration.

[@vwluis]

The best accessories for a lathe are set of dial indicators and comparators, and they're also perfect when welding on shafts straight.

[@pyromedichd1]

Order of operations on a machining project is very important. In this case you would have been better off welding you shaft to the flange as centered as possible and then taking the assembly to the lathe, out it between centers and machine the final diameter of the shaft. By doing so you would insure concentrically and parallelism with the engine crankshaft. It would also be prudent to match mark the flange so it goes back on in the same position every time. I suggest a reprint of South Bend's How to Run A Lathe as a good text to get started with your lathe work. You can probably find it as a download online or buy a hard copy for very little money.

[@wretched100]

Y’all need a magnetic base and a dial indicator to check concentricity on the lathe and when checking adapters

[@heathroush5343]

3 jaw chucks are convenient, but 4 jaw chucks will allow you to center your pieces much more accurately. Looking forward to what else y'all do with the lathe.

[@Videoswithsoarin]

if each jaw is set properly it will still center the stock just fine

[@larrydavidson3402]

You guys keep upping your game slowly but surely. Just think of how far you guys have come. Good job.

[@Videoswithsoarin]

you guys came a long way up till now. cant wait to see what comes of the new shop, new tools and new sponsors. exciting stuff coming this year for sure

[@bengibson3955]

Hey fellas. You could’ve centred (centered for you US English folks) the 6 bolt flange into the chuck on your lathe, then held the output shaft in alignment using the tail stock of your lathe. 😉👍

[@chrisduda1974rr]

Love it, I might suggest to use a bearing holder welded to the outer plate so you can change the bearing down the road.

[@SportbikerNZ]

I don't see anything stopping them changing the existing bearing?

[@kathleensavoie6231]

They did

[@michaelmunday7331]

Well done my boys,it's all about the build. Thats why I watch you guys.

[@isomer13]

I love these builds. No one does it like you guys.

[@davidsnyder2000]

Nice workmanship on the driveshaft extension….. Enjoyed the lathe video portions👍

[@RC_Trailblazers]

I bought one of these GY6 kandi karts about 8 months ago. Didn't wanna go to crazy and bought a Honda Rebel 250 Inline 2 to throw on it. Still sitting in my garage lol haven't had time to mess with it anymore. But this has me stoked.

[@Dino30ish]

A dial indicator and a magnetic base would do wonders for getting that "output shaft " straight ..

[@anthonyberry2627]

Digital micrometer and caliper are a must for use with a lathe..

[@zachrochau6907]

Remember - weld THEN finish machine if possible. Its the best way to get minimal runout on parts like this

[@delandbrooks3291]

The flange that mounts to the flywheel should have been welded to the shaft and then turned. That would give you some circumference of the shaft to turn down and true the piece.

[@MathewMcCormack2567]

Really enjoyed the mix of casual and techy filming/ commentary 👍👍

[@johnhere59]

@10:51 I note you are NOT using any cutting oil. If you want your Tools to last longer than a day you need cutting oil, always have a oil bath or stream something.....Thats a nice set of cutting tools treat them nice so they last. the guy that sold that to you should have told you that.

[@fuhkoffandie]

You all do realize, when you pull that connecting rod off of that crankshaft, you have an off-balance rotating assembly. That crankshaft is counterbalanced for the extra piston swinging on it, it's not just the weight of the piston and Rod, it's also The Swinging motion that it's counterbalanced for, which makes it way way off when you take the Piston and connecting rod off of the crank. Now, you can make a custom counterbalance on the outside of the motor, but, your best bet, is to pull the crankshaft, and re-machine an entirely new shaft, that retains the ends, and bearing size of the crank. Then you simply put your crank sprocket in the center, and come out at the hole where The Jug was. This should give you a good 4" sprocket, and just use a small 1" or so clutch size sprocket for the drive on the new motor. Then, you'll retain perfect balance. Hope this helps. I think I'm going to watch the video now.

[@joebufford2972]

Delays is a great addition to your shop. A few tools to go with it for measuring. The one I see you need right now is a dial indicator to get your rotating masses absolutely true

[@chrissparlin2971]

Get a decent dial test indicator (.0005" increments) with a magnetic base that you can use to indicate the part in the chuck to run more round before you turn it, will help a lot in centering. Also, make sure your tooling is at correct center height and cut with the tip of insert.

[@DugBullet]

Been waiting for a build like this forever, appreciate it

[@donaldhalls2189]

Can't wait to see how it goes, all the best to yous and your loved ones

[@scottboatright8536]

Thanks!

[@joeydonajkowski7744]

I'm a long time subscriber I have v watched you guys from almost nothing with basic tools building Go-Karts with everyday tools all the c way to the new shop and all the lovely new tools and such you guys are putting out awesome content. Keep up the great work!!!

[@bobrekowski631]

When using the lathe, heat is your enemy, cutting fluid is your friend, patience and awareness are a must

[@nicholasthurman2266]

I’ve been watching y’all’s videos since the beginning. Glad y’all are finally reusing motors as the transmissions. I keep up with the KZbinrs y’all have done collabs with and have watched some of them from their beginning too. The coolest part is seeing the progress of someone’s fab skills go up.💪🏻💯

[@jstephenallington8431]

Finally! You guys got yourselves an honest to gosh lathe! Whoop! (can a Bridgeport be too far behind? mmmm..?)

[@wjpreslar]

The sparks are not coming from too much RPM. They are coming from a dull or poorly setup tool. If the stock is rubbing against the tool or tool holder rather than the cutting edge of the insert or if the insert is dull you'll get a little light show. I strongly recommend using cutting oil. It will make your insert last longer, and provide some cooling as well.

[@esqueue]

As someone who've only seen lathes used online, wouldn't it have been easier to center the shaft as best as you can, weld it then turn it down afterwards? That way you would be sure that it is centered. If I am wrong, please post why. Thanks.

[@MrDintimid8or]

I haven't watched in a while and I can tell your fabrication and video production skills have greatly improved. Keep up the good work!

[@cavemanvi]

The musical Timelapse with voice overs were AMAZING. really enjoyed it

[@joe3754]

Nice colchester! I work on the same exact machine making drill heads. It's a great machine. Things you need are: 1.Way oil 2. Dial indicator 3. A good set of calipers and micrometer 4. I'm sure it came with a live center if not get one. Also slow them rpm's down when cutting steel and try to cut no more then .05 each pass. .010 to .005 finish pass. That's with a carbide insert. Also the black lever closer to the in feed will be your best friend, but practice first with scrap. I tell yea I've been watching you guys way back in your pops garage and haven't missed an episode yet. Keep up the good work and if you guys have any questions regarding that lathe I'm here to help.

[@ianellithorpe5918]

Great video gentleman, I'm so glad you guys finally got a lathe. This will be an absolute game-changer for you! It opens the doors to so many possibilities and cuts back on the restrictions for parts that don't exist. If you lathe it they will come. Congratulations boys! Looking forward to the content in 2023.

[@raymartin47]

I think the best way to do that collar and shaft would have been to make it of soild piece of steel on your new lath or in the same 2 parts and welded like you and then stick it back in the lath and resurfaced it so that it would be more balanced piece and less vibration and fit the as well. Love your channel!

[@josephkeil7581]

I might recommend some dial indicators, will help you guys true up everything. Mag base would have helped with the shft welding too.

[@joshuagibson2520]

Hell yeah. I've been saying yall need a lathe and or mill. Glad to see ya got one. Truly life changing. BTW the machines aren't the expensive part. It's all the other tools, fixtures, gages, and consumables that really add up.

[@timr4853]

Got a lathe, you guys need to upgrade that pittsburgh caliper to something better from mitutoya, starrett, brown and sharpe or at minimum SPI. Pick up a decent mic and some dial indicators and test indicators too.

[@jonathancrissinger2301]

You guys are so creative and I love it. I've always loved to create stuff like this. My thing has always been garden tractor creations. Keep up having fun.

[@maxiumgolf1]

Love the integration of the new filming and the group of guys put effort into this. Keep going, enjoying the content! Keep going!

[@davidowen888]

Can't wait for next episodes on this one 👍☮️

[@smallblocktommy581]

I'm excited for this build! 4wd will be so fun. You guys scored on that lathe, I've ran one like that for years and they cut good. When you see sparks cutting steel like that ir usually means it's been hardened, chipped cutting insert or it's a tool steel. Maybe invest in a digital readout it makes it a lot easier and faster for new turners.

[@johnsonoutdoors8117]

Ha I’m going to have fun. I’m going to work with tool steel in class possibly S-7.

[@smallblocktommy581]

@@johnsonoutdoors8117 awesome, good luck! Run it slow and use coolant or oil on your finish passes to hold a good finish and tolerance. Blue chips are normal it puts a lot of heat into the chip, part and tool

[@johnsonoutdoors8117]

@@smallblocktommy581 the lathe is my favorite machine to run. I go an hour away for a high school class. But the shoo is probably the best school shop 3-4 hours one way on a US-2.

[@brianbailey5720]

The lathe and plasma are gonna take you guys to the next level for sure.

[@dukie1616]

Jhon mentioned it already, that the crankshaft is going to be out of balance missing the rod and piston. Y’all could add a counterbalance, although there will be an oscillating secondary couple imbalance. Try to add the balance as close to the crankshaft lobe/counterweight as possible, because the further away it’s mounted the worse the secondary couple imbalance will be.. or something like that. Good job gents keep up the good work👏

[@robertshepherd6394]

Regardless you will have an issue with vibration as just cutting off the piston and rod leaves the counter balance which is vibration issue I have don this same thing but machined a homemade crank to remove vibration

[@Adventure_Van_Upgrades]

great work again guys , john when using the lathe in future id always recommend standing well to the side of the chuck & dont get your face up to close to the part to avoid any mishaps also should avoid any long sleeved clothing when running the machine , a really solid machine with a lot of potential looks to be a flat top clausing / colchester , i have recently restored my own 15"x50" colchester triumph TR2000 & colchester Master 13"x30" machines if your intrested have a browse over some of my videos.

[@mowdoc6792]

Keep in mind boys that fly wheel on the Artic Cat is keyed to the tapered crank with a tiny woodruff key. If you're putting a bunch of power to that jack shaft you may very well shear that key. Looks like a cool project though! Also, there is that one way starter clutch on the back of that flywheel. You should be able to still use the electric start function of the Artic Cat motor to start the donor motor(S).

[@richardmoreno5160]

Just be aware that the key on that fly wheel will be your torque weak link. You will also feel some vibration from not having the rod and piston on the crankshaft (out of balance). It should still work , have fun. 🤟

[@kennyrmurray]

Very nice for a first lathe! My first was a 9” south bend. I have moved up to a 13X40 Clausing like bran new! I love it! I spent hours and hours to learn it then I bought a Bridgeport mill which you guys really should get next so you can mill your own heads. Machine work is a lot of fun! Be super careful with long sleeves! You need a dial indicator on there

[@jarekmace1536]

This might be a good point to hook up an electric motor and rheostat to do a balance check on the lash-up. Eliminating the engine vibration would help find any imbalance issues before something detonates at RPM.

[@johnnyp5788]

Good measuring tools and a DRO (digital read out) will do wonders for your new lathe

[@Deer-Run-Farms]

Nice work on the lathe Charles! I have a feeling your going to come up with some cool and useful parts on that lathe! Keep up the hard work Charles!

[@garyzurasky7312]

If the lack of piston and rod give you too much vibration you can always weight the extension shaft adapter plate.

[@jonard7037]

Glad to see yall got a lathe now. Now with the crossfire pro + lathe, parts will be much easier to make. You guys are awesome !

[@nigelqflarp]

Im curious how much vibration this will have after removing the piston and cutting off the small end of the connecting rod, leaving the rotating assembly out of balance.

[@samilbhogalgodisgreat6927]

Keep up the good work guys loving the projects got a couple myself hope I save up this year to go out there and ride with you guys

[@matthewodum7160]

Coming from someone that works in a machine/fabrication shop. Any little variance in the squareness* of that shaft will eventually** wear out that bearing and commence to eating your cover plate! I'd also like to see you all invest in a tig welder, it is much cleaner and elegant weld. Using that mig is kinda like taking a cannon to a fist fight... great video b.t.w.!

[@brandona1370]

I've been awaiting the day you guys do some legit machining! This was great!

[@MaxsGarajMahal]

Use a pocket scale to place along the side of the turned material in a vertical mode, put the tip of your cutting tool against the pocket scale. When the cutting bit is touching the gauge, the gauge should be perfectly vertical, not leaning back for sure. If the gauge is leaning back, your cutting bit is above center, if the gauge is leaning toward the operator, the cutting bit is too low. You can get away with a couple of thousandths below center, but not above center. There are many tips you'll receive and you'll end up using most if not all. Cutting threads is the most fun for me. But, more than anything making pieces for the Little Red Wagon Wheel Stander while it was running out of my old Machine Shop. I was lucky enough to build some things for a lot of professional fuel, alcohol cars, dirt cars, asphalt cars and I never tired of it. Miss my Machine Shop more than any of my businesses. If you have questions, hit me up in my gmail and I'll give you my digits to try to answer your questions.

[@notimegarage8632]

Yessss, don't know if yall seen my comment but this was exactly what I saw coming, its going to be so cool!

[@GooseGosselin]

So great to see the shop grow and your capabilities with it, well done!

[@johnmorgan1629]

You could've made a collar for the bearing, then welded that to the cover, then if you had any bearing issues you just pull old bearing out and replace it.

[@Лейтенант_Нырков]

9:40 вы пытаетесь расточить внутренний диаметр подрезным резцом. И это весело 😄 Для этого нужно использовать расточной резец.

[@bradensmith888]

I'd recommend cutting off the support bearing and making a press-in cup for it on the lathe. You can weld the cup to the outer plate, and that way, the bearing is replaceable. I'm a little saddened at the choice of transmission. The Arctic Cats have a centrifugal clutch built into the transmission, so you won't be able to do clutch dumps or have fully manual shifting. This is looking cool, can't wait to see the outcome. For lathe tips, I always run the lathe as slow as it will go for a parting tool cutting steel. Might want to bump it up a bit for aluminum, but still run pretty slow

[@connorh3883]

Hey guys, love this video. I've been taking a machine shop class this year and been playing around with the lathe and mill, super cool that you guys finally got a lathe! It'll be very useful. Keep up the great work!

[@greathornedowl3644]

Great video, informative and entertaining. Love engine rebuilds, like 2vintage channel, I am okay with "shade tree" general maintenance but rebuilding engines are a little beyond my cranial capacity

[@brendanabbott2809]

Word to the wise, don't be tempted to cut round stock with a saw while lathe Is running...I did it with 50mm nylon round stock , the off cut broke off and smacked me across the chest knocking the wind clean out of me...and some sense in... your vids are 1st class!!!

[@dominicrichardson5546]

Nothing better to watch after a trip to the pub than a Carsandcameras vid

[@anesthetized7053]

love seeing charles gain confidence on camera and really lean into his sense of humor. dude is legit funny and i love his remarks 100% of the time.

[@coyoteden3773]

Definitely a great addition to the team

[@tedgourley6274]

I love the time-lapse footage, maybe a "real-time" clock on screen to depict actual shop time each task takes, as we all know these projects become massive rabbit holes sometimes....You guys are absolutely fantastic as individual presenters and ensemble... great show gents....cheers from Toronto....

[@shrapnut7612]

Ike's look of bewildredness @ 6:45 had me crackin up. Another great vid., guys. Thanks.

[@ronasher8040]

Have you ever thought about using a transmission from a big V twin Harley? Some how or another the tricks have a reverse.

[@buckykattguitar]

Plus, they built the servicar trikes up to 1969…tens of thousands over their run. 3 forward gears, 1 reverse