Building a Proper Roundhouse Area for Storing Trains in Railroads Online!

Hey everyone and welcome back to more Railroads Online! Today we are going to use the new train engine sheds in order to make a proper roundhouse area! Our old engine storage is outside and is really quite terrible so today we're going to re-engineer a new storage area for up to 8 engines!
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[@jan_franzke]

Cold steel has basically the same friction as when it's warm. The winter-problems for railroads are frozen switches/points and large quantities of snow. Basically: water is bad, no matter if liquid or frozen.

[@Gentalkat11]

Water is needed fot those trains tho. How else would they be able to generate steam?

[@henryfeng840]

but don't steel in extreme cold crack?

[@kuhljager2429]

@@henryfeng840 Not so much crack, as shrink. The joints in the rail can pull apart if the steel it too cold - especially for this older bolted rail

[@IONATVS]

@@henryfeng840 ice doesn’t make new cracks, it widens existing ones. Most materials, including solid ice and liquid water get smaller/denser as they get colder, but because the crystal structures of ice have holes in them when water freezes it actually gets much less dense very quickly. Thus if there’s water in a crack when it freezes, it suddenly gets bigger while everything around it is getting smaller, and that naturally forces the crack wider. And in general single objects of uniform material shrinking uniformly, like a metal rail, isn’t really a problem, it becomes a problem when they’re mechanically joined (bolted) to things that also expand or shrink with temperature but at a different rate (such as the earth) in different directions (such as another section of rail that’s also bolted to the ground so wants to shrink towards its center of mass), or at different temperatures in different areas. And that’s exacerbated because the strength of the materials can vary dramatically with temp too, so a weight or hammer strike or tensile stress from being bolted in the ground weirdly that they could easily take at room temp might be too much when it’s cold.

[@henryfeng840]

and also cold steel + ice would freeze train wheels in place

[@SternLX]

Just FYI, that glitchy texture effect has a specific name. It's called Z-Fighting. Multiple 3D objects with textures on the same plane will attempt to display at the same time. Z-Buffer does not allow this so the buffer instead flips rapidly between the textures. If the render engine is setup properly it'll automatically offset one of the objects(so one texture is covering the other) by just a hair to stop the Z-fighting effect.

[@Fifsson_]

worth mentioning, the error is often caused by the inaccuracy of floating point operations

[@rogervanbommel1086]

@@Fifsson_ not really, most of the time “snapping” of objects to exactly the same height and overlapping

[@noritesc5000]

​ @Filip Jędrzejczyk have some true because of projection calculations per pixel something need to be on front in z buffer epsilon have also effect on it

[@blaness13]

@@rogervanbommel1086 I don't think you understand what he is talking about.

[@rogervanbommel1086]

@@blaness13 I do, the fact that floating point numbers do not have infinite precision

[@verbatose3520]

I wish we could have those longer building segments more Also the Eurika and Class 70 make a good double header

[@jimrussell4062]

If you drive the trains FORWARD onto the turntable, you can immediately grab the turntable handle and run it around 180 degrees. This lets you then have the handle next to you next to the shed when lining them up. It just makes it a lot more convenient rather than trying to look around the train and guess when it's lined up.

[@nielsdanielbuch9022]

The Engines should be parked with their chimneys aligned with the ones on the shed as they help with draft when heating an engine from cold. Oh and it's true you blow the cylinder cocks when turning the engine off, but also after prolonged periods of inaction like at a station, as the cylinders might cool, water in cylinders are a really bad thing. water doesn't compress so if there's water in the cylinder when starting without blowing the cocks, a pocket of water might warp the pistons or crack the cylinders, and then you have a very big tea kettle instead of a train engine.

[@ulrichkalber9039]

also water can freeze

[@mrchom]

Looking good. Now just put another line off the turntable out into the shunt yard and you can enter/exit in either direction!

[@AlovicGrim]

What if a train got between two rails adjacent each other, as in like "H H" and the space between was equal to that of rails they ride on, would they theoretically be able to ride like that, or would that cause some sort of glitchy jumping? would be interesting to test I feel.

[@kyleswenson8815]

I'd assume it would either be glitchy or wouldn't work but idk I haven't played the game just watched Kan play it so far

[@datguymiller]

Someone did that, it* runs as normal

[@AlovicGrim]

@@datguymiller thank you for the reply! that's awesome someone did it!

[@diamondapocalypse5019]

wait i just thought of a meme, dude with no glasses: trains online dude with glasses: kan’s ocd problems

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

this game needs a creative mode, for testing and doing dumb stuff

[@ianmcnab9534]

4:13 oh yes, the weather definitely affects how a train performs. In fact some of those inclines that you have up to the iron works would be impassable if the snow was affecting the train. Even a light frost can make it impossible for a train to climb a slope without sand being placed on the tracks.

[@awildjared1396]

I think a cool addition to the game would be a rotary snow plow that you have to use like once every 12 hours of gameplay or something to clear snow from the tracks

[@MinorLG]

Nah, a flamethrower engine.

[@sergeantscar6224]

You could turn the oldturn table into a caboose storage yard or a retired retired engine area

[@MrFen-ws3vr]

Seems like you really need a Y-split/switch for those sheds Considering the design of them it's a bit surprising that the devs didn't add one along with them

[@shawnwarneke5536]

I put this in the Steam forum, but we also really could use curved turnouts as well. That would really open up some options. I do agree though, a Y split is needed.

[@SDJW2016]

Save the other Turntable for your Cabooses and Other Special cars that may be added Also with the Main Turntable (w/ The Sheds) have the handle faceing the Sheds

[@TitoRigatoni]

cabooses*

[@SDJW2016]

@@TitoRigatoni Thanks, i fixed the spelling

[@alexdanovyt9032]

Very organized, you have satisfied Alex.

[@skrep359]

I understand that when you have 2 engines pulling against each other the coupling goes yeeten't. However, what is you "double headed" 2 engines? Possibly a Heisler running in reverse (With the railcars coupled to the front of the Heisler) and a Mogul/Class 70 in the front. On flat ground, Hop in the front Mogul/Class 70 and you have quicker speed and when you need power, the Heisler is your friend. No idea how this will work as I only have an 0-4-0; an 0-4-2; and a Mogul. Ideas be springing.

[@Bendigo1]

the Heisler and Climax can are ok hooking at eiher end, like the porters. The engines with the push bars have issues hooking to the front.

[@katerinakittycat3849]

I finally have a line to the Logging camp in my game. I called the railroad the "Pine Valley Railroad"

[@planetearth8044]

The logging co. will love you

[@sergeantscar6224]

Cool I like it

[@randomgamez2690]

Cool, i call mine the New Valley Central

[@katerinakittycat3849]

@@planetearth8044 I also have my main line double tracked one line goes out and the other one goes back there are also switches on that line that head to the saw mill

[@martythemartian99]

As a fan of How To Train Your Dragon, I named mine the Dragon's Keep Railroad. First loco is named Nadder and I'll try and follow the theme.

[@TitoRigatoni]

this looks great Kan. I would've lined the sheds up in a straight line and then curved the tracks to meet them, but this looks pretty cool too.

[@grant2428]

The water tower idea is both genius and realistic! The level of attention to realistic details in this game allows for the player to actually think from the perspective of an engineer that would have been alive and worked in the steam era of railway history.

[@Pystro]

What do you think about hooking the turntable into your second shunt yard? It's trivial to build a second entrance to them. Just hook the rail up next to the rail that you linked the table to. That would also allow you to drive your engines out without turning them a full 180°. Or to back them in without turning them 180°. Also, you forgot a sand tower next to your water tower.

[@josephg2858]

Kan, for the time being; you could put the caboose in shed 8 as a space saver and keep it warmer during the winter

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

ocf a verified person stole your comment and get more likes… life

[@N0V-A42]

The roundhouse is going to look so impeccable when you are done.

[@fluffyyeeti6365]

Betsy is truly a beast. She survived the full speed downhill parcour from the iron mine down into the valley without derailing. Keep her as she is for quick support and rescue missions. The caboose might fit better to Betsy 2, wich could be used as a kind of track building / maintenance train. A red light at the top of the caboose would be a signal for a closed track, a section you're working on or something. Could be great, when the devs implement night time.

[@masonroos8199]

i love what you do did with the round table and sheds. i do think it would be cool to have multiple people driving trains to and from places. like the logging camp and sawmill

[@sparkstechnology]

An idea for the future, build a engine shed at each of the industries and house a Betsy at each as the shunter for those locations (logging #1, sawmill #1 etc) when you have multiple people playing online and shunt yards at each as well. So they can shunt loaded wagons ready for you to arrive and the take the empties from you and you pick up the loaded ones. Saves you waiting around.

[@mr1ybbob3214]

Its nice to have the space behind the sheds to see the rail cars on the corner

[@Will_L2]

Hypothetically if you sacrificed one shed on the right you could have a rail leading to another turntable sheds in the back for more room and the ones in the back are the ones you don’t used as often

[@volksdude1970]

Very nice work! It looks like a proper roundhouse! I hope they might consider adding drive through sheds in the future, that way people could make sidings for temporary storage, or maybe even a car maintenance shop. Something else I really hope they add is the steam crane from their first game: "American Railroads: Summit River and Pine Valley". It would make an awesome rerail tool or extra crane at loading docks.

[@daveb.4383]

Thanks for the show and tell Kan I hope you and yours have a Merry Christmas

[@zaklex3165]

You have room to actually build more of the engine sheds opposite of the ones you already have...so in essence the turntable would be surrounded by sheds. The lip should actually be the other way, you want your engines to drop onto the turntable from the engine shed and lead tracks, i.e. the track leading to the turntable and the tracks into the engine sheds should all be a little higher than the turntable.

[@VestedUTuber]

Ok, some ideas for making your rail yard look and function more like an actual rail yard: 1. In real railyards, the through-tracks off of the main are only used to assemble outgoing trains and disassemble incoming trains. You only need a couple of these. Your storage tracks can all be dead-ends because you'd realistically be using a small switching locomotive (Porter, ALCO/Cooke 2-4-2T, Baldwin 0-6-0, etc. - in your case, Betsy and Betsy 2) to sort rolling stock. 2. You should have a firewood depot and a watertower on a lead out from the turntable. This way they're both close to the engine shed but they're not blocking the main access track to the turntable. 3. For your inbound and outbound tracks, you should have a separate switching lead so that switching operations don't interfere with incoming and outgoing trains. That being said, there is a kind of rail yard that uses your system of having fully assembled trains on separate, double-sided tracks - it's called a staging yard. Staging yards aren't used on full-size railroads because there's no reason to store fully assembled trains on those, but they're used on model railroads so that trains can "travel" to locations beyond the boundaries of the layout, and are often also used to hide a continuous run on layouts that would otherwise be point-to-point. Additionally, they're used to store trains that aren't in use on the layout at all.

[@kasbakgaming]

Thinking it might be worth while to add another firewood depot closer to the engine sheds for refueling while they're parked. Could set it so the loading dock is backed right up to that closest line from the adjacent shunt yard.

[@arjunagaming8785]

38:15 kAN : geting in the mogul Also kAN : Standing outside *GLITCH IN THE MATRIX*

[@stevenphilcock4178]

Hi Kan - You could build a link rail from the new turntable / sheds to the shunting lines so you would not need to spin the trains as they would already be pointing in the right direction :D Season greetings!

[@pabble0085]

My mannnnnn... i love these vids, ur a genius

[@flame7815]

Hi, I love these videos, keep making more!

[@lordsherifftakari4127]

a better layout for the Roundhouse set up using the Sheds is to place a shed, then place a single open track. another shed and another track. repeat as needed until you have a suitable area for storing Engines. also place your Engine Servicing facilities Water Tower, Sanding Tower, and Fueling Depot. on the approach track to the turntable. as you take an engine out, you can make sure it's fully fueled, watered and sanded for work. somewhere nearby should be the Caboose Track for storing the Cabooses ready to be placed onto a train.

[@TailcoatGames]

Oh kan I just realized a use for the old turntable You can get a bun of the pushcarts and store em their and use them for shunting

[@mrmurpleqwerty4838]

The Class 70 gets its own shed because it's AWESOME

[@rknudson1407]

front of the engine is the smoke box (for easy access to the flues for cleaning)... ash pan is under the firebox door (developers will need to add an ash pit to clean that out).. they also outta add an oil can to oil all the bearings on the locomotive and equipment

[@3DPDK]

As a test a while back (before many of the physics patches - so it may not behave exactly the same) I drove Betsy VERY slowly off the end of the rail so her wheels were in the dirt. I did this slowly enough that the engine did not bounce or lose it's alignment with the track. I then backed it back on to the rails. The first (back) wheels were a bit stubborn to climb back on to the rails but it only took about 40% regulator. The front wheels followed with no problem. Unless the physics have been changed drastically I doubt the difference in rail height at the turntable will stop any of the engines. The Porter has the smallest wheels of all the locomotives so if Betsy can climb the full height of the rail, the others should have no problem.

[@I-LOG]

If you plan on getting a Class 70, you're going to want the track going into the turntable to come out straight on the other side to the shed since the Class 70 is too long to be rotated on any of the turn tables currently in the game.

[@roadtrain_]

Alternatively you can have a porter engine shunt the tender. But your suggestion makes a ton of sense as well.

[@stevenrb99]

Hey Kan, don’t know how this would look but what if you did the sheds in two parallel lines like buildings on the side of the road, with their doors facing towards the opposite side. Had a line of turntables with maybe a normal track piece in between or something. (Match the sheds up with the turn tables so you have essentially one table servicing two sheds or four doors.) Then just leave all of the turn tables straight, turn the specific one for your shed, put the train on the table and turn it, drive it out. Then you could have like one shed at the very end of the line, kinda like an uppercase Pi in Greek Π with like the service line going down the middle? Like I said, don’t know if you could pull off the angles or not but could prob fit like 10 or so sheds that way if you needed to upgrade. You have enough land to prob pull it off. Just a thought.

[@scottygibbs1477]

I love these track builds

[@lazylazerrsp8781]

38:14 hope the devs leave this bug in because it's a harmless one that's just plain fun to spot.

[@justinpolcari]

Hey kan big fan of the railroad online videos first time commenting... I love your content keep it up.. I think you should stock 2 or 3 betsy's on that same line in the shed so if need be you have more than the one on hand...I know your trying to grind for the other locos but just my thought on the betsy shed

[@Mr.AtheTriggerGalleon6310]

Hello,new subscriber,loved this video,would love to see more of this!

[@cyantasks7129]

You should leave a gap in between the middle two sheds, and have a rail going through, so you can use the space behind, if there were the need to place more sheds.

[@wilwilke6504]

Pairing the Eureka with a cordwood/flatcar or caboose/brake-van and Betsy would be a pretty OP but simple pairing for empty-haul routes (one-way loaded/difficult and an easy return-leg) [Caboose]-[train]-[train]-[train]-[] >>Uphill>> -If that monstrosity can't pull it, a class 70 probably won't either. Just be sure to top-off Betsy's water, 100% the Eureka and go gentle on Betsy's reg. That'd keep Betsy relevant even on medium-haul runs, and the Porter-2 for logs-to-saw runs. Mogul for medium long-hauls, and the Heisler for ultra-grunt.

[@A_person473]

For the caboose episode : The Caboose is used for slowing a train down we all know that. When Cabooses put on their brakes it tells the driver in the locomotive to slow or stop. Cabooses are also used for holding extra men to help with the train on long trips. And if the cars get detached from the locomotive the men in the caboose put on the cabooses brakes and the other cars brakes. Your welcome. Edit you can use the old engine shed as a caboose shed for storing Cabooses!

[@HomerDocs]

Nice roundhouse .

[@roninturner7194]

I love these videos my favorite series

[@sergeantscar6224]

You could use the old turntable as a caboose storage cable or a retired engine turntable

[@sergeantscar6224]

And to think I was playing Roblox wow this happened I’m wasted my life

[@moddien1]

you could have built one of the tracks from the turntable exactly straight through so you dont have to adjust it to get to one of the engines (although it wouldnt be symmetrical anymore). also there is more space for more sheds around the table.. on the opposite side. like that you could store 2 Betsys in one lane and if you want the one in the back, move other one to the opposite shed - just some ideas.. keep going with the railroads videos!

[@bensbigbloatedbeanburrito4396]

love these thx make more!

[@rocketgarden8389]

I love this. Could you check if the smoke stacks on the sheds have an actual function

[@burritoland7598]

mom: what are you laughing at? me: nothing also me: the trains of the round table

[@BlisternRaceway]

If you add a small bit of rail at 180 degrees to each shed entrance rail you'll be able to line up the turn table easier. Just a thought for when it's hard to around engines

[@goosegamerau3200]

I feel like Betsy should be in shed 8. It is the most powerful engine after all

[@Freezezonian]

You could possibly have a couple more sheds further back if you deleted one of the sheds and were willing to put some switches in but that would look more messy and complicate things. Another thing is you could also just build a couple platforms and a water tower or something and make the area behind the sheds some kinda work shop like area for decoration or something.

[@0megaming]

I think, you should get each Betsy a tender, just to give them a bunch of capacity and because they deserve it for the work, they´ve been able to do.

[@laid-backgarage4412]

If you stand on the turntable and look down at the rail at either end, you can operate it. I find it works better than using that handle. Little easier to line the rails up.

[@matizzekleynen1929]

Like imagine having sleep in game so if u dont have the caboose you need to go home and sleep there and have a day night cycle that would be a use for it and another idea having cold and warm effects if its cold u dont want to die so u wanna stay warm in the caboose near the fire :edit i really lile this serie keep up the great worl on it

[@entity-bl5og]

Hey, Kan, the heisler can go faster. You can pull the reverser back, to like, 50%, and then try experimenting with the regulator. The reason the heisler wheelslips so easily is because it is too powerful compared to its tractive effort. So if you pull the reverser further behind than 100, you have reduced power and increased speed, and this may allow you to get the regulator to 100. This applies to all engines. You can still have the reverser at 100 on inclines, where you need more power.

[@entity-bl5og]

This trick has the potential to significantly increase your speed, but it will need a lot of trackwork to have any noticeable effect. You can still try it out on flat ground though.

[@uthris]

I feel like tying the engine sheds to a single common line would be best. That way the turn table doesn't have to rotate unless the engine itself needs flipped... Though this will mean a less compact design

[@user-Zer0Views112]

I have got to get this game it looks so much fun and great idea for a makeshift roundhouse, reminds me of one of those recreational railways (nostalgia)! Though maybe one day we’ll get an actual roundhouse in the game

[@HippoDrippo]

this reminds me of old thomas the train from when i was a kid

[@socialistturtle]

Snow basically doesnt affect trains. Even Ice just melts under the pressure. The biggest problem are leaves and wetness, because then some resin like liquid, that is really slippery, comes out of wet leaves when they are under pressure.

[@journeyoframa2631]

i rather make a branching line than a round table.

[@Bendigo1]

i put a branching line to the sheds and a seperate track for the turn table for if i need to turn the the engines or cars.

[@EFI_Brothers]

You should use the old turntable as extra engine storage or have like a celebration and put all your engines there for everyone to see.

[@j.wattswiththelspd]

I love this

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

this makes me wanna see more train MM stuff

[@dcminipimp]

With the staging yard or behind the engine house u should build a Caboose track where u can just park a bunch of them together like on the real railroads back in the day

[@paulbankard1525]

Don't know if you changed it yet, but the trains that you want to utilize the most should be parked in the center sheds where with the rails require the least amount of turntable turning to get from the shed to the main rails.

[@Kasper-nq6vk]

Nice kan

[@kenvanhook6641]

Kan, if you space the sheds out further, then you could add another row of sheds if more new trains are added.

[@ryanennis7370]

Please keep making more!!!!!!!!!

[@lengionxdg6337]

You should start working on the oil mine

[@dinodude7773]

Nice

[@jakesnakemate2929]

the class 70 works on the turntable with the tender, but you have to hang off the front wheels. It looks goofy but it works fine

[@patnuthammachote]

Snowplowing in the game would be pretty cool in the future

[@drunkduck2485]

I am here in ten minutes also nice place for trains

[@zombiewolf123]

If you want more sheds in the same place you might be able to move the left two sheds the left just a bit more then have a line go between shed two and three and branch once behind the first four sheds to however many you can fit in the back.

[@Cr4sHOv3rRiD3]

36:27 You don't have to turn the engines when you joining them in to the freight line, just build another piece of rail joining behind or on front of the shunt where is your cars parked and that way you can attach them much faster :D Basically you shorten the distance by that curve behind the engine sheds ;)

[@aws4265]

Should have the turntable handle facing the sheds so you can easily see the tracks to line up.

[@zamboni8168]

YOU SAVED ME FROM MY BORDOM

[@khromex7444]

Also, love the series and your commentary, even when you bash Eurika.

[@sokmterror1039]

Take the turntable manipulation log to the side that has the engine houses that way you can see how the rails line up easier.

[@GarrieMcLaws]

Tender could be disconnected if you put them in backward using Betsy Using the engine that matched the tender park the tender on the turntable and disconnect it. Then rotate the table to align with Betsy with the back of the Tender, put Betsy on the turntable then continue rotating around so that Betsy can push the tender in, back out ot the table and go back home. Then put the engine in the bay. When taking the engine and tender out, pull the engine out and past the turn table. Then put Betsy on the turntable and have pull the tender back onto the turntable rotate to send her home leaving the tender on the turntable then back the engine up to collect it's tender. I think you would have better luck lining up the turntable if you used arm from the "out/exit" side of the turntable when going to put a train on it. Since there is no train on it you can see if it lines up then lining it up to exit you have unobstructed view.

[@fishersilverado3082]

Hey kan, that caboose is a logging caboose, and that is why it only has 2 axles and why its as small as it is.

[@LIEFDEenHAAT]

The Term you are looking for when the ground is doing the glitchy Pulsing is "Stitching" or "Z-Fighting"

[@foxboi9032]

The "cutting" effect that the foundation does is known as Z-Fighting because the two textures are fighting about who shows on the Z axis

[@FutureRailProductions]

Kan probably the reason why the Eureka isn't working is you probably haven't turned the handbrake off on the tender. Try that. All the tender engines need it.

[@harri1234]

U could put small amounts of track on the opposite side of the turntable to make it easier to line up

[@grant2428]

Push Eureka with smaller-faster locomotives to get it started and launch it. You could double head as well for the same concept.

[@Mizant69]

YEEEES FINALLY

[@zombiewarrior1290]

Rebuild it kan keep up the good work

[@SonOfmowgef]

I've never played this game, so I don't know if it has a creative mode, but if it does it might be fun to lay a bunch of track. That way you can test each engine for pulling power etc etc.

[@Truckie_]

would be very useful. and yes 30 sec ago u sent this comment

[@RJenkins6586]

Good video, I gotta say the mechanics of the turn table drive me insane.

[@danredacted4630]

TRAINS YES! MERRY TRAINS!

[@Bendigo1]

Should wait to build a roundhouse until they add ACTUAL round houses in the game. Using the sheds is as a roundhouse is like tring to fit a square block in a round hole.

[@julianharvey6584]

I might be more interested when the snow is gone, the snow is doing my head in