Buying a Honda ATC 250R (The 2stroke Beast)

[@2vintage]

What do you guys think I should do with this three wheeler? Please SUBSCRIBE and LIKE the video if you enjoyed! It really helps me out a lot! Check out my Instagram: 2_vintage_ Thank you for all the support!

[@Pyrite-nn5iz]

Keep it

[@christianjobes5571]

the handle bar's paint is looking a little rough. I think a little paint would go along way on the bars.

[@tannerrides7238]

@@christianjobes5571 yes I agree

[@fullmetaljacket7]

Put the stock wheels and tires back on, keep it stock. Also, try and see why it's running too rich.

[@tannerrides7238]

Put the stock wheels back on it so it’s all stock

[@mikeschreiner5210]

Funny how people critique his buys and builds, but he’s doing something we can all dream about!

[@mikeedmister8100]

I agree. its funny

[@preez77]

Seller: Coats entire trike with WD-40 for a deep deep shine. 2vintage: This thing is mint!!!

[@northerntoyota7584]

lol my thoughts exactly. Mint lol lol 😂

[@againsthell1908]

You can actually see the oil on it

[@jasonjaeger4042]

Hell, just grab a sharpie and write "Mint" on it and he'll think it's mint condition.

[@theboogieman401]

Foreal lol the sticker came right off … so he has 250 stickers for sure !!!!! It’s was messed up from The kicks and now it’s new again lol haha great find I love this channel all My buddies love this channel

[@Valdemar-Perez-III]

Well yeah WD-40 fixes the mf.

[@Hanky_Bannist8r]

That's actually a decent spark plug for an air cooled bike. Honda wanted it mixed at 20:1 to help keep it lubed and cool. I'm restoring an 83 250R right now. You have a super cool find. It deserves to be ridden and cared for.

[@jasonvoorhees2701]

I ran mine at 32 to 1 ... still had plenty of power and my top end still lasted a while ..

[@jjp1117]

Yeah 20:1 is crazy that’s fine for initial break in but you better invest in NGK stock if your running 20:1

[@gregnichols5319]

20:1 is a bit much with today's oils in 1982 yes 20:1 but the 2 stroke oils today works alot better I run my race bike at 100:1 and I've never had a issue my trail bikes I run 32:1

[@SnoqualmieShredder]

My dad bought one of these brand new in 1985 in Denver, CO. By that time they had upgraded suspension and were water cooled. He said he has never owned a more fun machine since. I hope one day I can get my hands on one and give it to him as a present.

[@RC-fu6hg]

That brings back so many memories of my 350x Honda. Oh what fun that was.

[@larrymartin5765]

You have to hang off the back fender and drift it around turns go into the turn in 4th gear grab 3rd and literally say what up to your back tire..he is going to become your best friend

[@Airik1111bibles]

They ain't sketchy to ride ya just gotta know how to do so. I was much more confident on a three wheeler than quads back then. When it's all you road you become used to the turn radius. Basically you gotta drift on sharp turns , I loved riding trails with trikes.. Also extending and widening that axel made that year way better for control ...That bike was so short and boxy. I seized mine up in 88 after a Honda shop screwed up the piston . Ruined my first camping trip without my parents . All the guys I was with got to ride while I sat in camp freaking sucked. My dad bought me a 350X after that I loved that thing . One of the best 3wheelers ever imho.

[@morganvass2930]

I have a 1980 cr80r 2 stroke. It was my dads when he was a kid. And it is so much fun to ride. Awesome video.

[@ronniewilliz153]

My first bike was a 81 cr80 love them bikes

[@mikestowe6136]

i know first thing id do is ditch the tractor tires its not the gearing its the tires need alot bigger tires

[@jasonvoorhees2701]

That wont improve your handling...

[@mikestowe6136]

@@jasonvoorhees2701 lol ya depends what tires ya put on like some razors or hole shots those rear tires are junk n would handle like shit compared to good tires n the handling would be 100 percent come talk when youve raced for 35 yrs

[@4.5.0.Garage]

Dumbest thing is to say tires won't help handling .

[@montydaken7924]

find yourself a dirt or gravel road and you'll enter a new world. controlled slides are really fun with the 3 wheelers. don't be afraid to kick that right leg back/foot on the grab bar when you're messing around doing wheelies.

[@soloskywalker]

Love 3 wheelers, I have a bunch of them. Keep it vintage man!

[@davidpayne4084]

I've got a few been into yard kart lately but my 79 70atc is my fav

[@sandmanbub]

The port timing and size, the expansion chamber design matched up with the small diameter carb give that engine more low rpm "torque"than the 250 motocross bikes. A trick move on a 3 wheeler is to ride on the front wheel and only one rear wheel. It looks trick, but it's pretty easy. No need for throttle to do it. Just balance and it's done at slow speed, standing up on the pegs. Have fun!

[@ericm1a2]

Top speed for that year was pushing 55 with a light rider and stock tire size on pavement, the six speed models would do over 60 MPH

[@idi0televisi0n]

Clocked my '85 at 73 mph 6th pinned. OEM gearing

[@MattiasE]

Nice had one just like that when i was teenager 😎👍

[@jman6030]

Donno why some people have problems turning..lean right in and kick the rear out.never dumped one before.definately needs the tires or sprocket.right on👍

[@micahhicks88]

4 wheelers and side by sides have turned people into lazy riders

[@jonmccormick8683]

Mostly complete. Engine/plastics look original. OEM rear rims for these are still cheap on eBay. These air cooled ATC 250s are lots of fun. A few years ago $1k etc. Atc250r 85/86 have shot up in price, people are moving to next best aircooled Atc 250r.

[@bretallan5268]

Yes, one more gear! I have an 84 and feel the same way. The 85 liquid cooled model featured a six speed transmission which allowed for speeds up to around 73 miles per hour but really, I have plenty of fun going approx.60MPH

[@christianjobes5571]

i wish i had one one of those. I've been working on a atc 200s so its cool to see another trike again on your channel.

[@gorillahd9247]

Congrats on picking up a really nice 250R! I miss my 1984 model. Bought it new as a teenager and wish I had held onto it!

[@larrymartin5765]

You have to remember that was the first race machine built by a factory everyone was modding there 180's or a few dudes building there own and putting in dirt bike motors in them..that thing was somewhat race ready off the show room floor

[@ScottFichter]

We had a 185s back in the day. The 250 was what everybody wanted.

[@gt1man931]

Cool old trike. There is nothing mint about any of it, though. It looks like it is has been well used but seen good maintenance.

[@jakemitchell546]

It is in really good shape for being 35+ years old

[@wisecampmotorcycles8258]

@@jakemitchell546 yes it is, but it's not mint.

[@cflip7452]

That’s a Gem! Keep it! Going on 40 years old and sounds like it should 40 years ago! I know I already mentioned it but Carb will bring it to life. Think the stock carb is restricted for safety

[@tannerrides7238]

Yea that actually makes sense.

[@gt1man931]

It is small carb is to make it more tractable. Big carbs take away part throttle usability, the last thing trail off roaders want.

[@tannerrides7238]

@@gt1man931 yea that why I said it make sense

[@cflip7452]

@@gt1man931 makes sense! Just my experience back in the day. carb change brought it to life👍

[@sandmanbub]

I wouldn't ride that too much, you'll end up wanting to keep it lol. Those will plow through deep mud at low rpm without stalling and one little blip of the throttle will instantly rocket you through anything. They're not screamers, but they are unstoppable and a hell of a lot of fun.

[@2clappedout477]

YES! i have been waiting for this one! I love the 250R

[@Kerfufflekitten]

I had a 185 back in the mid 80s when I was turning a corner at the lake road bridge I straightened out the corner, popped the front tire on an old fence post then plunged into the water and she went to the bottom. As far as I know it’s still down there but wouldn’t be worth a flip now but I miss that thing.

[@billwilliamson9842]

nice 250R, I actually like the earlier ones more even though the later ones were better in just about every way.

[@MK2Scirocco]

About time we get some trike action!!! Love the 250R!!! Keep it up brother!!!

[@sendit1158]

I would change the oil still, could have vegetable oil in it for all you know

[@colbycriswell2926]

Ehh its a Honda it’ll survive

[@lindenphilippson]

Yeah plus oil is only good for a year

[@davidpayne4084]

@@colbycriswell2926 have a 86 125 4 trax that's been smoking since 2001 when it stops smoking just add oil only thing I ever have to do to it is clean the pug about twice a year still has full power you can't kill them I've ran it out of oil more then once full piston lock add oil dumped a little down plus hole over night and next day fires up ran it again

[@daffyduck9901]

@@lindenphilippson 🤣

[@jamiebouchard9862]

Jeesh, disc brakes in that era were cutting edge fs!! Sweeet ride joe!

[@gerryh1746]

That red engine is significant. It indicates it being an Elsinore engine, very rare..

[@jasonvoorhees2701]

You are correct I had one just like it ..had it redone ported polished and bored over ..it was a banshee killer if you could hang onto it..

[@davidpayne4084]

@@jasonvoorhees2701 have 2 myself one with a missile kit on it had to put a stock motor on the missile because you could not hold it even with me being 6 5 250 thing just wanted to kill me

[@scottmiller3025]

That's what I was thinking

[@MM_in_Havasu]

Get a plug chop after you ride it to load the engine properly. 2-strokes will always have an oily black plug if checked after just idling cold.

[@MrERROKK]

I remember the engines on the ones we had when I was young being black. Good lookin 250! My father had a 250r and my uncles did as well. The stock exhaust would blow smoke rings while warming up. Miss the smell of 100s of them firing up in the Glamis desert mornings.

[@sendit1158]

18:30 smoke rings

[@Davido50]

Nice find! Lots potential. Keep up the good work. I like the new digs. Ur own home? Moved out parents house? We've all been there. 👍

[@BOXING-q2u]

Just seen one of these beasts on kaplan america a 500 engine thrown in it total rebuild, mint..

[@ronniewilliz153]

I watched that one too. Killer bike

[@Zionikk]

Seen that. Its a freakin death machine lol

[@motorcycleman3322]

Had one of these when I was a kid wish I could find another one in that shape wow what a beautiful bike.😊

[@978twostrokegarage2]

Amazing score Joe. Get this beast restored you got some good money there 🤟🏻

[@appleberryism]

That is awesome it’s super clean for a 3 wheeler You are going to love that puppy they are so much fun

[@shaynedonnelly374]

I love how you never know what gear your in no matter what you're riding you always try 2 or 3 times to grab another gear that isn't there lmao

[@Davido50]

Cmon man he's no pro or maybe even very experienced. Let him alone.

[@shaynedonnelly374]

@@Davido50 lmao he's had this channel for like 5 years. If you've been riding for 5 years and still hit neutral almost every time you shift to second or try and grab gears that aren't there cause you maxed the tranny YOU'RE AN IDIOT AND HE'S AN IDIOT

[@4.5.0.Garage]

@@shaynedonnelly374 I agree with the later part of this post lol

[@daffyduck9901]

@@Davido50 come on man, he's been on a bike for a long time some guys just don't get it.

[@gringostarr69]

@@daffyduck9901 Agreed. He has driven a lot of dirt bikes, but only does it on a straight road. He is at no means a motocross rider nor can he even wheelie, but it is nice to see these old bikes. Been waiting and waiting the day he really realizes how these bikes ought to be riden, but got to understanding that some folks don't and they just want to have a little fun with them.. For example here is how you drive a 500cc; kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXyVf5hvpdykbpY

[@mackenziemorris4798]

Another classic ,keep up the good work with the vmx bikes.

[@gerryh1746]

They weren't banned from being raced, they were banned from being sold period.

[@mikeshobbiesandrandomstuff]

Nope not banned from being sold just from being produced

[@Davido50]

Yes true but I grew up riding them. If you weren't a fool all was A- ok. Owned a few 3-wheelers bought brand new including '86 ATC250R when 15yrs old.

[@Steelaworkn]

Banned because children were getting injured and dying from riding them. When you go into a turn, throw your weight into the turn. Underweight kids couldn't handle the turns. I could see an age/weight requirement but couldn't see banning them.

[@wheeler391970]

I had a 1982 250R and with stock sprockets and tires I could get it up to 70 mph. After blowing the engine 4 times, I put an engine out of a Honda Nighthawk motorcycle in it and I had it clocked just over 100 mph.

[@ricardoguerra9411]

I have an 82 250R Im about to resurrect it to its former glory, it has 4 inch extended swing-arm with a 400 EX shock. It also has a 14 tooth front sprocket. yeah I remember it wanting another gear.. A Blast in curvy tight tracks, small jumps with mud puddles mixed in. Man I really like your riding area grassy straight aways in the country..Cool place to test out the new mods.Ride Red Amigo!

[@jonnyonwheels]

That twist throttle is something I was always tempted to do to my machines back in the day but never actually did. While that one is not stock, it’s definitely been on there a while…..vintage! Curious to see what the plug looks like after the top speed runs too?

[@wisecampmotorcycles8258]

Take that muffler off the back, and replace it with a CR250 silencer, it will run better and sound better. Those trikes have a CR 250 engine in them.

[@MrDaRkUnIcOrN5]

No the atc and trx have counterbalancers in them and the CR's do not or they might just be flipped around either way not the same

[@wisecampmotorcycles8258]

@@MrDaRkUnIcOrN5 I didn't know that. But how does a counter balancer affect the exhaust silencer?

[@MrDaRkUnIcOrN5]

Oh it doesn't, that's my bad the cr silencer may be better but the engines aren't exactly the same (I've never owned a cr though to compare just going from what I've read)

[@wisecampmotorcycles8258]

@@MrDaRkUnIcOrN5 ok no worries. I didn't think changing the silencer would have any affect, regardless if the engine has a counter balancer or not 👍

[@averagecarguy420]

Jeez look how big the opening of the muffler is! 😂 You got super lucky with the toolkit!

[@leewebb8929]

Seems to me the clutch is maybe slipping. Adjust carb rejet. A pipe Regear and that will put racing stripes in ur shorts

[@meco72104]

You really have to lean into the turns like a motor cycle track rider. Thats why so many people would get hurt, they would try to turn without leaning and would roll. JMO. The original tires will help with the rough ride, thy used to call then balloon tires. low air pressure gives them bounce but can also make them harder to control in very bumpy terrain.

[@jasonvoorhees2701]

Thise tires would bounce you right off the fucking trail

[@zepole87]

Wheel spacers are a must too

[@TheDoozie43]

Nice find bro! FYI, they all lift right up lol. Never should have sold my mint 86’.

[@randomvideosman938]

I’ve got a 1987 Yamaha warrior with the original tool kit and original manual. The quad is in great condition for the age

[@hillbillyhicks8102]

Man ride that bike in a sandy area. Like where there are alot of pine trees. Them tires will be awesome Also riding in sandy areas its easy to turn. Just hang your ass off the seat in the direction your turning and use the power band to help spin the tires to get to slide around. Whats great about 3 wheelers is you actually have to ride them. They can be unforgiving if you mess up but once you master the 3 wheeler and how to ride it is awesome experience. I grew up on them and i could ride the wheels off of them. But i cant lie i never could master jumping them. That there is a tricky thing to do at least for me it was. Never hit the rear break in the middle of a steep hill. That back axle becomes a pivot point and you flip over backwards the cross bar on the handle bars will crush your helmet. Ask me how i know.

[@jayeddleston9486]

My brother had one in 87 we use to tie a sled on the back and go blast across the field in the snow. Good times

[@rigguyjt]

Those lights can blow out pretty much instantly when the lighting coil goes bad. They will over-volt like crazy.

[@kurtgandarillas8618]

nah man like Joe said it's gotta be from doing wheelies. lmfao

[@jonnyonwheels]

Hey Joe, just wondering if you give your 2stroke bikes a good shake when you get on them to make sure the fuel in the tank is still mixed thoroughly? It was a common thing to see before startup standing up on the pegs, grabbing the bars and giving it a good shake for a few seconds to slosh the fuel in the tank back & forth. That was the first thing that came to mind seeing the smoke when you started it in the garage.

[@tpghl5225]

Most synthetic premix oils will chemically bond with the gas so separation doesn’t occur. But not a bad idea to do that if you don’t know what oil is in there

[@jasonvoorhees2701]

I used to give mine a slosh or 2 ..however I'm sure premix is better now then it was in the early 90's

[@davidpayne4084]

@@jasonvoorhees2701 I remember back in the day the oil would settle and plug your jets after not getting use for a week or 2 tell my dad started using his boat 2 stroke mix

[@tpghl5225]

@@jasonvoorhees2701 oh for sure, I know I had to shake it up when I ran castor oil

[@ni_wink84]

First bike I ever learned how to ride was an 82 250r ATC, loved that thing, they originally came with a 28mm Mikuni carb, but other than that it looks dead stock, great machine

[@gregd.88]

Three wheels of death!!! Good luck dude.

[@pikkupoika1234]

22:53 "this thing is geared really well" 23:58 "gearing on this kinda sucks"

[@morganyarger2006]

He said the gearing is low not well

[@zepole87]

“Geared low for torque”

[@soloskywalker]

I have stock size 22 tires on my 83 and 84 250r and even went up one tooth on the front sprocket and they are still screaming for a 6th gear. Still love riding them though.

[@knobchocolate6491]

When u do those speed runs it gives me chills that you don’t have gear on

[@coleswanginshenanigans867]

Bruh I'm hitting near 80 on my 86 trx250r with room to go and I only wear a helmet

[@tpghl5225]

@@coleswanginshenanigans867 Stick to gaming then

[@coleswanginshenanigans867]

@@tpghl5225 nah bruh you just jealous don't be a pussy a crash on dirt is different than a crash on asphalt, I barely ride on asphalt

[@tpghl5225]

@@coleswanginshenanigans867 ah gotcha thanks for the advice

[@jayday4879]

I had one as a kid and smashed it to bits after running over my own leg twice in a row ..it's a bucking bull on ruff ground but sideways it will kick your feet of the pegs

[@itsnotnewo5254]

I’ve been asking for a long time now for a collection tour so do you think u can next video?

[@Guadzilla459]

The bikes go and come that’s why he don’t really do that video he ready posted one I think long time ago

[@itsnotnewo5254]

Ik but still it would be great to see what he has

[@Davido50]

All sold or traded! :(

[@eugenesbackyardrepair4593]

Actually around back in the day we rather race custom built 200x 3 wheelers

[@patrickbrozis814]

Lol 200x didn't have much power stock or modded.

[@eugenesbackyardrepair4593]

@@patrickbrozis814 well my neighbor went undefeated with his so go figure

[@Nosferatu_man]

@@eugenesbackyardrepair4593 against other 200x racers or against a 250r

[@eugenesbackyardrepair4593]

@@Nosferatu_man against 200x . 250r was never aloud to race with the four strokes

[@JiveFive55]

@patrick so your saying Mickey Dunlap's 200x race machine had no power 🤣 you trippin

[@nickjames2267]

Keep that ole classic machine man. And i know tthe orange paint may be original but qould look so awesome to have black even on the jug and bars

[@bryankerr69]

Those little wheels on the back is the problem. Put the originals back on.

[@gerardlamarche5754]

@@jasonvoorhees2701 he’s complaining that it’s geared down and slow, the small tires is the reason why

[@tomlenza2768]

That thing rips. Once you get a taller tire it should help make the gears a little taller. Too bad it doesn’t have the six gear but hey do you really want to be going that fast on three wheels LOL I grew up with a 200 SX I think it was A four stroke sport 3 wheeler model with six speed with clutch those were the days riding with my family learning on a three wheeler. Felt so fast when I was younger.

[@theatcman37]

That’s awesome I just bought a 1982 250r!

[@jsst1097]

Those trikes are a fun ride Good power has Shocks and a low centre of gravity Only problem with these trikes is it’s easy the soak the air filter with water. Need to seal up the air box lid

[@steves2241]

Those atc 250r's were dangerous, they were so fast a lot of people got hurt on them.

[@chrismiller5258]

Nice score!!! So crispy and clean for the year! Solid, reliable, easy to work on. Would go nice with my 85 200x, you ever wanna sell it HMU!

[@cflip7452]

Had a 1986 back in the day and let me tell you, ran good but after changing out Carb from a Tecate of same year it was night and day::). Wouldn’t do anything to it but if you must Carb would wake it up

[@jasonvoorhees2701]

I put a YZ 250 carb on mine .. it made a significant difference..

[@everythingpowersports9604]

Yes thanks man been waiting since the Instagram post 👍

[@kernelbadness]

Screw the light, spend time doing leak test. She may be eating trans oil. Engine doesn't sound good. Great find thought.

[@bradledger3347]

It's defiantly those small rear tires on the back keeping you from going faster, I had an 1982 185's and was clocked at 50mph WFO and I know the 250's were faster, great video btw

[@islandlife9127]

I have never seen one of those in such great shape. Awesome bike. I really want to see you work on a Suzuki pe175.

[@larrymartin5765]

Hard to find them looking like that..no rust in the tank and including the air box

[@matthewroche8961]

Nice bike!! If you could find a black seat cover to make it look original that would be good and also original bars and just to let you know that the headlight guard was aftermarket product it did not come stock but in my opinion get 1. Black oem seat cover 2. Oem handlebars Keep up the great work!

[@dongmanjr4]

Keep it restore it to 100 percent . I had one of these loved it had to sell it wish I never did.

[@wouldyouglowme4235]

Bro my jaw dropped you better keep it

[@derekmaloney6706]

Keep it, this atc started it all for atc/atv racing

[@m.b8257]

That’s a sweet bike, I’m glad you traded the dirt bike for it, these a way kooler in my opinion!

[@FJ80Coop]

Swap a 2 tooth larger front sprocket and drop several teeth off the rear and it'll run 65mph plus easier to keep in a wheelie in low gears..

[@mrsandman5679]

Check gearing/sprockets. I think you can put a larger front sprocket on it to make it go a bit faster.

[@ShaunSavage-kl9pd]

I inherited my late father's mint 82 atc250r. I love it. It'll outrun my 96 cr250 guess Jeremy shoulda rode a atc250r lol

[@Red-head-triple1]

I have a Honda 250r three wheeler but mine is liquid cooled I have over 100 three wheelers now and I have a air cooled 250 also

[@200mmonster4]

Where do you keep finding these bikes. I'd never get rid of that R. They hard to find and alot of fun

[@JuarezDerrick]

Join some ATC groups on Facebook and you will find them constantly

[@louisjohnsonjr.4934]

They didn't have much to choose from back in the old days. Back then this thing was king. Lol big difference from today's standards.

[@davidpayne4084]

If you had a 250r you were king if you could keep it running my brother gave me his in 87 when he left 3 wheels and went to a 500cbr his 50th birthday last year fully restored the 250r and gave it back to him since I have 2 other 250r I bought in the late 90s for little of nothing

[@staygold902]

Bigger front sprocket is the easiest and cheapest way to add speed. I usually have a couple different ones on hand

[@atc6133]

First thing I would do is change the rear tractor tires to something close too original. Nice trike!

[@Thewatson77]

Man what a great find! That thing has been very well taken care of. Do you plan to keep this one?

[@Seansworld17]

Take care of that machine! Not often one of those land in your lap.

[@larrywarner9314]

Now remember those older two stroke there mixture was like 24:1

[@Erlov71]

The 85-86 250r was 20:1

[@wisecampmotorcycles8258]

Two stroke oil has come a long way since the 80's. Use a good synthetic oil, mix at 40:1.

[@wisecampmotorcycles8258]

@@Erlov71 at 20:1, you will have a smoke screen behind you. And fouled spark plugs.

[@Erlov71]

@@wisecampmotorcycles8258 yea but thats what the decal on the bike says

[@wisecampmotorcycles8258]

@@Erlov71 yea but that decal is 35 years old. I had my first 2 stroke YZ in 1980. Yes I ran it 20:1 back then, but now with better synthetic oil, I would run that same bike at 50:1. It's not the engine, it's the oil you use. There are oils out now that you can mix at 100:1

[@curbsideconversions]

the best one of the trikes i thought was the tri-z 250 they fetch alot of money these days now

[@RagdollRacingInc]

Used to ride a ATC 250R 84 team swollen racing bike when I was a kid

[@boxedfender4810]

I had the same one. Mine had an issue not starting after it heat cycled

[@cflip7452]

Dang! Where do you keep finding these gems🙃. We don’t have anything like that in our area:). Oklahoma

[@2SlowMt09]

my neighbor has a showroom floor condition trx250r, complete stock

[@timjohnson9230]

I like it, but try to find a 85 or 86 that's reasonable if possible. Then you got something. Nice wheeler tho

[@TheDoozie43]

He has had that version before I believe. Think he was looking for this one specifically.

[@michaeltrower6792]

Yup the air cooled one's are junk had one it sucked

[@insanetaco98]

@@michaeltrower6792 my dad had one back in the day before his first banshee. He always wanted the watercooled 250r he also settled for an 89 banshee cause he couldn't get a 88 trx250r

[@fatmexicanjesus5645]

First gens are the real killers though(especially 81 cause drum brakes can't stop enough..) all years after the first gen have technology to improve balance, agility and braking, making them less of a death trap and less cool then the first gens in my opinion.

[@gtisid]

Nice find as a re-sellable for the collector but id give it some love as the rot has set in, i rode one of these in morocco in the early nineties on the beach and awkward is an understatement. top end sound s shot on it. you obviously like it so why not do a resto as its all there?

[@TheGMan.]

Throw a 200x front end on it and 400 ex hubs for a little added performance