Buying this weird 1969 Citroen ID 19 was a total disaster. I am so DUMB!

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@ferkle1980
@ferkle1980 Жыл бұрын
All of the issues are hydraulics. They're all relatively cheap to resolve. The harshness is the spheres being out of nitrogen, the clicking is the accumulator sphere and is pretty normal. The leaks are all resolvable. Caveat being availability of parts in the US. I'd put the money into it, but then I've a soft spot for proper Citroen's
@glennvengroff7235
@glennvengroff7235 Жыл бұрын
Spoken like a true Ex-Pat
@ferkle1980
@ferkle1980 Жыл бұрын
@@glennvengroff7235 no mate, I'm not an immigrant. I was born and live in the UK.
@adbirdk
@adbirdk Жыл бұрын
This is the truth right here. It's not that bad, tbh.. The hydraulic balls were very cheap 20 year ago when I was trained at Citroën.
@ulrich_badmecanique
@ulrich_badmecanique Жыл бұрын
If it clicks at this rate, the accumulator sphere is gone. It's just an empty metal ball used to store pressure, unlike the other ones
@ferkle1980
@ferkle1980 Жыл бұрын
@@ulrich_badmecanique fair point, and well made. That said if you're doing the other 4 you'd be doing the accumulator anyway.
@macmanipowermacbookprair4110
@macmanipowermacbookprair4110 Жыл бұрын
Watching this was a lot of fun because I’m used to Citroën CX and XM so it is interesting to see a fresh look on the a Citroën from a different perspective. But I’m also almost screaming at my phone for the mistakes you make. 1. The ticking noise is normal, is the hydraulic pump. But it shouldn’t tick this often(replace central sphere) 2. The reason it doesn’t brake or has a delay: air in the brakes, bleed it and it works The brakes are powered instead of power assisted, with the pedal you open a valve which allows high pressure from the pump/central sphere to the calipers 3. You should only drive in normal rideheight, other rideheights have very poor drivabity 4. The shockabsobers are in the spheres, the things you called shockabsorbers are hydraulic cilinders 5. The boots in the cilinders always have fluid in them, there should be a returnline on it. Wizard broke one by punching it. The cilinders are never perfectly sealed 6. Wrong spheres are mounted, for ultimate comfort you should buy screwable spheres instead of welded ones. But new welded ones already should make a big difference in comfort(welded ones are cheap and easy to replace)(screwed spheres you can buy for instance at CitroTech in the netherlands. You seem to have quite a nice DS (you can just call it a DS) that with not too much maintanace will be an excellent car. Maybe it even has a 5 speed btw In the netherlands this is one of the most popular classic cars, it is very different than what you are used to but a lot of information is available. If you want I can send you some companies I know where you can get knowledge and parts. I really hope you keep it and would love to see your adventures with it!!!
@reffrof1
@reffrof1 Жыл бұрын
Top advice, saved me typing out similar.,.. Take note of the pump cycling/ticking so often, this points to leaks in the central sphere, and the obvious leak underneath it. Once replaced the ticking will happen at start and then stop when pressure is correct in the system, then only begin again when you start moving and the fluid is being pumped around the brakes and suspension. Bad ride at either end is due to blown spheres, they will need replacing at each corner. Once blown you have no damping, as the spheres are filled with fluid which will not compress when you hit any bumps. The magic ride is a balance of air/fluid separated by a diaphragm in the sphere, hence hydropneumatic suspension.
@paultjep
@paultjep Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Still miss my BX GTI and Xantia Activa V6.
@stickfingersRoF
@stickfingersRoF Жыл бұрын
@@paultjep ... I still have a Activa V6 :)....now those WOULD blow their minds :)
@dotlaj
@dotlaj Жыл бұрын
A normal mechanic will not be able to fix a Citroën without doing some reading first. A friend started working in a garage that served French cars and changing a clutch on one type of Citroën took 3 days and was a pain in the a$$ he took the manual home and the next day he did changed it in 1 hour. So read the manual and save yourself some headaches.
@SterkeYerke5555
@SterkeYerke5555 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I think this ID is far from a disaster. It only really seems to need to have the calipers rebuilt and one (now two) new gaiters at the rear. Obviously it's not a driver as-is, but it doesn't seem like it would need too much work to become one. You might be able to get the rear suspension cylinders completely sealed internally (in which case the gaiter just become a fail-safe), but I wouldn't bother. I doubt they wouldn't have any internal leakage even when they were new
@SandersBZH
@SandersBZH Жыл бұрын
As a Frenchman, I would say keep it! It seems to be in good condition, the hydraulics is always a problem on these cars but it can be repaired, parts can be found quite easily. This car can run on 3 wheels and you can change a wheel without using the jack. Bisous de France!
@SeptemberWhite
@SeptemberWhite Жыл бұрын
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@j_freed
@j_freed Жыл бұрын
Oh sure you would - in reality you’d just spend that money on great food & wine _et la séduction…_ 🍷 Can’t blame you, either,
@taylormcfadden558
@taylormcfadden558 Жыл бұрын
It belongs to car wizard now
@friederikekraincuk8481
@friederikekraincuk8481 Жыл бұрын
Bien dit, gars!
@craigsowers8456
@craigsowers8456 Жыл бұрын
Bonjour from a Texan in the Cote d'Azur ... yeah, "parts are easily found" ... IF you are in France; shipping will be high. One of our Nice Car Club members has a DS ... smoothest suspension EVER !!! And like the Dog breed "Shar Pei", so ugly they're cute. Good price Hoovie got IMHO ... "AutoScout24" currently has 11 ID/DS vehicles for sale ... 1 DS at $250k !!! WOW. Now we have to get Hoovie and Wizard to watch "Rabbi Jacob" ... LOL
@spencerwindes7224
@spencerwindes7224 Жыл бұрын
I've had a Citroen. Sort the hydraulics and it will be fine. It's rust-free and in good shape and the motor runs well. This is one of the most beautiful cars ever made, and when it's sorted the ride will live up to the hype. It's a work of art, and maybe more than anything you've ever bought, worthy of being saved.
@mescko
@mescko Жыл бұрын
I'm commencing to think that Tyler really isn't that much of a real car guy.
@freekinfigetaboutit
@freekinfigetaboutit Жыл бұрын
You have no idea how fabulous that car can be. Tips: The hood prop is on the bonnet and latches to the radiator on the left as you look at it. The wizard punctured the rear bladder, now you need a new one. Don't drive the car super low or you'll have no suspension. There is a mid mark on the control for a smooth ride. Those spheres are both the springs and the dampers. That clicking indicates an internal leak somewhere. It should only click a few times per minute. Stick with it, it will be epic!
@colinstu
@colinstu Жыл бұрын
I was amazed he poked/punctured it. Well hopefully he comps the part and labor to reinstall it.
@howardwilliams1218
@howardwilliams1218 Жыл бұрын
Yep totally agree - wizard just trying to get more money
@dougsrosen
@dougsrosen Жыл бұрын
That wizard always trying to run up the bill on gullible Hoovie. Shame on him
@anusername8350
@anusername8350 Жыл бұрын
@@howardwilliams1218 I think he was just genuinely oblivious to how the suspension works. Surprised neither of them did any research before buying such a desirable car.
@marcusbalzer8393
@marcusbalzer8393 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! All what you said, Paul. Also I want to add you shouldn't drive it in the very highest position either and I think is what he did @ 18:40. The highest position is for wheel changes and very careful driving only. (At least it was like that on my BX)
@mattuw82
@mattuw82 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see you guys do some in depth work on this. This is 1000x more interesting than most of the car projects on KZbin.
@sheldondyck8631
@sheldondyck8631 Жыл бұрын
Scott from Cold War Motors owns several Citroën cars. He has a bunch of videos of the SM he’s currently restoring. Check them out if you’re interested.
@iVolkswagen
@iVolkswagen Жыл бұрын
What do you mean!! Super cars and $200,000+ unobtainable cars aren’t what people wanna see?? You’re gonna blow these guys minds! Surely the people don’t want to see fun and unique car builds!
@mattuw82
@mattuw82 Жыл бұрын
@@iVolkswagen Haha! Seriously. I don't think I can sit through another video of an out-of-warranty Mercedes that needs it's entire front end taken apart to replace a failing sensor.
@jeroenriewald9166
@jeroenriewald9166 Жыл бұрын
You are right, but I have 3 Citroëns in my garage (2 Traction avants and U23) and one SL R107 so I I’m happy this morning 😂
@ReemerFeddes
@ReemerFeddes Жыл бұрын
Hear hear!
@adriandayne4124
@adriandayne4124 Жыл бұрын
OMG - you are a classic car killer! Never, ever, drive a Citroen hydraulic on the lowest suspension setting. That is like taking the springs out of a conventional car. Of course it felt awful. The low setting is for raising a wheel when changing out a puncture. I had the pleasure of owning a DS 21 Pallas some years back. It had the semi auto box and the gear change was just a magic wand. I would love another, but perhaps with a smoother 6 cylinder in place of the agricultural unit that was a compromise in all these vehicles. Watching you and the Wizard was like watching a couple of apes working with a hammer on a Faberge egg. Please keep it, but treat it gently :)
@lesflynn4455
@lesflynn4455 Жыл бұрын
"Watching you two was like watching couple of apes working on a Faberge egg with a hammer. " That's the funniest thing I've read in ages. 😂😂
@htimmermans1938
@htimmermans1938 Жыл бұрын
It's not weird, it's brilliant. The hood prop is mounted under the hood. The hydraulic system is very reliable, but it needs a bit of maintenance. The engine came from the traction avant (fwd).
@benoitguillou3146
@benoitguillou3146 Жыл бұрын
The Anglo saxon aren't allowed to call anything French "brilliant" it's state law ...It'd be like wiping their asses with 120 grit sandpaper ....The only thing they' d have to pass to call brilliant would be a white flag gleaming in the sun , or the intensity of the rear lights when driving in reverse ..... However I , as a French do allow myself to call the anglo saxon strategy to finance Hitler from USA by private parties '( Prescott bush and Ford ) , wait for the mess to be made irreversibly pretexting an "isolationist " tradition , then come "save' us by carpet bombing our industry after Russia did all the footwork , then tie us down with a massive Marshall plan shark loan , a bloody BRILLIANT military strategy ( that only works when you're all comfy and protected by 6000kilometer of ocean tho ) ....
@Grunniger61
@Grunniger61 Жыл бұрын
I am from Europe (Netherlands); this is a fantastic car, with many devoted lovers. Yes, it may seem complicated (which at first it is), but there is a reason why so many have survived here over 50 years: they have the best ride ever, are quirky and lovable. Keep it, and make it right.
@bertjesklotepino
@bertjesklotepino Жыл бұрын
I am from Europe as well (Netherlands). And yeah, in the old days we built stuff to last. Now a days we have people who demand durability, and yet have no problem that the big companies still get away with selling us stuff that is put together in such a way that it will for sure break down. But yeah, this car does ride very nice. Its like a magic carpet.
@tw157059
@tw157059 Жыл бұрын
Same, the citroen DS and the volvo p444/p544, are, i think the very oldest European cars, that people over here still actually daily drive. They are pretty good now, but must have been absolutely unbelievably fantastic pieces of engineering 60 years ago. Fwd, hydraulic suspension,an aerodynamic body and disc brakes in a mass produced car!
@motorkamperen
@motorkamperen Жыл бұрын
Another Dutch here, we loveeee the DS here in Europe and it's a wonderful exotic car!
@bertjesklotepino
@bertjesklotepino Жыл бұрын
@@motorkamperen Exotic? "unusual and exciting because of coming (or seeming to come) from far away, especially a tropical country" Sure, i agree that it is unusual and exciting. But coming from far away, especially a tropical country? Hmm. La France is a stone's throw away. Joke btw, obviously
@lucasvideler4343
@lucasvideler4343 Жыл бұрын
Another dutchie here. I just love seeing Americans discover French engineering 🥲 They have made some controversial design and engineering choices over there
@-DC-
@-DC- Жыл бұрын
As a ex Citroen Tech this was painful to watch 🤣🤣 That is in superb condition barring a few LHM leak's.
@adrianguirola6791
@adrianguirola6791 Жыл бұрын
I've seen much worse DS's that people describe as "superb condition". I wonder how bad the rust is in the trunk.
@floro7687
@floro7687 Жыл бұрын
Hydraulic issues were usually easily fixed on these cars, French electrics was what drove me out of my mind.,
@vidfletch
@vidfletch Жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same. Drama queen much!!!
@blaakrose
@blaakrose Жыл бұрын
You should call the car wizard shop and talk about repairing this car
@fugubarakun4907
@fugubarakun4907 Жыл бұрын
Seeing it driven flat on the ground hurt me badly
@yzept
@yzept Жыл бұрын
Once you sort the suspension you will have the most unique car in your collection and it’s definitely a keeper. The suspension alone is worth buying the car for but the character and memories it brings are likely to bring a smile to your and your kids faces for as long as you own it. A little bit of pure France.
@TheGewidener
@TheGewidener Жыл бұрын
As Leno says in his videos, you can’t take a Citroen to Clem at the gas station for repair. It’s amazing how complex and ahead of their time they were.
@evilsimeon
@evilsimeon Жыл бұрын
He also said he has a guy. Club guys would be a good resource.
@piercehawke8021
@piercehawke8021 Жыл бұрын
Anymore; a vehicle ahead of its time should be easy to keep on the road.
@ingrampowell9111
@ingrampowell9111 Жыл бұрын
The DS is less complex than any new car. Just more exotic, so mechanics don't know how to tend to them. Nice steal, Wizard!
@rotwang2000
@rotwang2000 Жыл бұрын
@@ingrampowell9111 It's innovative (or was), but it's not rocket science. It's just something the average mechanic has never seen before, though they should be able to figure it out with a good manual.
@redwithblackstripes
@redwithblackstripes Жыл бұрын
Its not that complex, you just need to understand how it works, people freak out because it's different but different doesn't mean it's harder to work on (in this case the hydraulics are a ridiculously easy problem to solve) you just have to be familiar with it.Most gas station clems rarely saw any and simply had no idea at what they were looking at. The gas station clems in France weren't much brighter than in the US, they just knew of them, better access to spare parts and had more experience with it.
@vinex19
@vinex19 Жыл бұрын
As many others familiar with the DS have said, primarily Europeans, you don't have a bad example there at all just needs some maintenance and replacement parts. If the parts are a tenth as available in Europe then this will be your first time experiencing an actually reliable version of this suspension. It is a wonderful car.
@christianholmstedt8770
@christianholmstedt8770 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. This actually a really good car. The hydraulics isn't that hard to fix. Looks like new spheres (or refilling) and a rebuild of the hydraulic cylinders.
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 Жыл бұрын
I think the Wizard would definitely take better care of this amazing car, and probably appreciate it more than Hoovie ever could, he should just let him have it....after Wizard gets it sorted out so we can see Tyler's reaction to how it drives on the road with everything working right.
@lutomson3496
@lutomson3496 Жыл бұрын
and he can afford to work on it like he does with his Jag both brands needing work all the time
@acfiv1421
@acfiv1421 Жыл бұрын
Definitely give it to the Wizard. He seems to appreciate the quirkiness of the car and will want to at least try to do some justice to it. The DS was an amazingly advanced and surprisingly reliable car, IF you took care of it. I suspect that at some point in its life, this car's hydraulic system was refilled with the wrong hydraulic fluid rather than the hard-to-find "Frog Juice", and that ruined some of the gaskets and seals. But certainly worth fixing, IMHO.
@neilorange4112
@neilorange4112 Жыл бұрын
It's a wizard 🧙‍♂️ car for sure I can picture him and Mrs Wizard riding around in it
@kommandantlars8400
@kommandantlars8400 Жыл бұрын
Dont tell tyler what to do. It wouldnt have been fixed at all if not for him
@rickb6694
@rickb6694 Жыл бұрын
Yes, he'll love it for the one month he has it before he sells it for another Beetle.
@sigmanoir
@sigmanoir Жыл бұрын
Growing up in the UK my dad had a total of nine of these starting back in the 60's with a Safari wagon, then all the way through to one of last 1975 DS23 models off the assembly line with all the options, he had that car for years. We drove all over europe at a rediculous high rate of speed for hours at a time and the cars were incredible. You could raise the suspension and drive them out into fields without an issue. Amazing, comfortable, and you will fall in love with it.
@trondoscar
@trondoscar Жыл бұрын
Old Citroên are like French people: They´re not complicated, they´re just different. And quite lovely when you get used to them. It´s perfect for The Car Wizard - no body issues, just mechanical stuff to take care of. I bet he could do a series og videos sorting out those little quirks.
@jaymorrison2419
@jaymorrison2419 Жыл бұрын
I CANT believe I’m going to say this: Keep it. Because I want to see more of it getting worked on, because it is SO cool (and uniquely French). The sane play is to run away screaming, but the YTer play is to make the content. But you can’t argue, it’s a REALLY good condition car, and it’s going to be just as rare to see on the road as any of your Lambos.
@tokyotom86
@tokyotom86 Жыл бұрын
Most interesting car you've had on here in a while. Being able to see the cool French cars rather than another BMW, Audi, or Mercedes is refreshing.
@r25limousine
@r25limousine Жыл бұрын
It’s the only thing that’s bought me back to the channel as I’m bored of the ordinary exclusive crap now
@rebeltvr6046
@rebeltvr6046 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the 3 best cars of all-time. it'll never lose value. If I were you, I'd keep it.
@felixbroeckx
@felixbroeckx Жыл бұрын
Big Citroën fan here... So funny to watch you guys discover hydrolics. Quite innovative in the time. This car is in an amazing state, you'll have it leak free in a breeze.
@ChrisGBusby
@ChrisGBusby Жыл бұрын
You are lucky with the "simple" ID19! I have a DS21 with pretty much EVERYTHING hydraulic. Brakes (on a rubber "button" not a pedal), suspension, steering and the BVH hydraulic "manual" gearbox where the car does the clutch for you. Once you are used to it it's actually pretty logical and simple :) The hydraulic pump should "click" every 20-40 seconds if pressure is good. Love the way Wizard destroyed the suspension with a screwdriver! The rubber boot is all part of the return system and is a bit of a pain to replace, kinda has to be turned inside-out, but with a hole in it now that's the end of that side suspension. To be honest this is a REALLY good example which only needs some minor TLC (by DS standards). Definitely read up in it a lot more before driving it any further, or do anymore work on it :P
@flavienauffret5859
@flavienauffret5859 Жыл бұрын
As a french Guy following you for some years now, I'm really glad to watch you find all the "quirks and features" of a Citroën ! Please keep it, it's quite rare in the US now, as in France as well !
@albertsmit9741
@albertsmit9741 Жыл бұрын
its rear because they allready where rusting in the showroom
@transformerstuff7029
@transformerstuff7029 Жыл бұрын
it's rare in france? I'm Dutch and theres a few of these in my town for sure.
@gregmuon
@gregmuon Жыл бұрын
I remember these from when I was a kid in California in the 70s. They weren't uncommon then. I think there was a local importer. This one looks like a US export model: no headlight covers.
@CY-ww1dm
@CY-ww1dm Жыл бұрын
@@transformerstuff7029 Sure not so rare here in France, not as rare for example as the Alpine Renault we've seen some years ago on Hoovies' channel. This one was a trully rare beauty since probably not much than 100 have been imported in the states.
@simonjournet9990
@simonjournet9990 Жыл бұрын
Bon baisers de France! Keep it it’s a piece of French history.
@KTRisnot
@KTRisnot Жыл бұрын
Tyler! You are NEVER supposed to drive in the lowest or in the highest positions! Lowest is usually for servicing, and highest for tyre change or to pass over obstacles at a reduced speed, but both positions are like having no suspension at all!
@mrmrmrcaf7801
@mrmrmrcaf7801 Жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of that car, the problems it has are normal and easy to solve, it should be noted that the parts that failed are over 50 years old... if you look carefully at the mechanical parts compared to other cars from 50 years ago, this looks like a spaceship and what is very interesting, the parts for it are available for purchase and are not expensive.
@lonewarrior1543
@lonewarrior1543 Жыл бұрын
as a citroen driver for the last 30 years..these cars are amazing...and once set up correctly..absolutely...and use ONLY the green hydraulic oil.LHM..and nothing else...otherwise you will have problems..the clicking noise is the pump...it will click until the pressure is correct...should eventually stop...but an easy and not so expensive fix...and NEVER drive it on its lowest setting...its just for servicing
@ggilroy4554
@ggilroy4554 Жыл бұрын
Ur right only use LHM… and a experienced Citroen specialist mechanic.. otherwise it’s gonna be an expensive venture..
@DSEXS
@DSEXS Жыл бұрын
Guys, remember to always close the hood on the latches when finished in the engine bay. If you forget and drive off, the hood will lift up and fold over the windscreen. Also, there is a hood prop on the hood and latches on to latch near the end of the radiator.
@flyerballs
@flyerballs Жыл бұрын
It happened to me on my DS 23 Pallas
@needadate
@needadate Жыл бұрын
And close it by dropping it, DO NOT press it shut. Unless you're a really handy body guy in search of work.
@MoGreazy
@MoGreazy Жыл бұрын
Another great innovtive feature… more French thinking, about the most unlikely possible issues… while not necessarily fretting about the basic reliability/serviceability of the key systems, is that, should your hood fly open, it was designed to not obscure your view through the windshield! Check it out, Hoovie! Leave it to the French!
@adriandayne4124
@adriandayne4124 Жыл бұрын
Yep, my hood flew up which gave me a bit of a surprise! Not sure the vision was totally unobscured as suggested by Theotis. I did come to a pretty sharp stop and felt saddened to see the crease in my once pristine bonnet (hood), possibly one of the longest ever made.
@andycooke6231
@andycooke6231 Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine attending the 1955 Paris motor show and seeing the new Citroen, it must have as if a space ship turned up.
@genehalsey152
@genehalsey152 Жыл бұрын
Many years ago I ran a repair shop in a college town and one of the profs had a 1968 DS21. I was young and bullet proof (so I thought) so I agreed to do the wrenching on it every time it quit. Very interesting experience to say the least. Yes everything is hydraulic and uses LOTS of mineral brake fluid. It had a semi-automatic transmission which meant it had no clutch pedal but a syncromesh transmission, so you could manually shift it through the gears or put it in 4th and let it do the shifting. It rode like nothing I've ever experienced, like a giant marsh-mallo. Every repair was a HUGE learning experience.
@zoltore23
@zoltore23 Жыл бұрын
PLEASE, Hoovie! Do not give up on this amazing piece of engineering. You have the money to fix it, so FIX IT!
@joelmatthias
@joelmatthias Жыл бұрын
The brake pedal feels weird because it's actually a valve as opposed to a hydraulic piston. When you press the pedal you're opening a valve that increases the amount of pressure that is allowed to go to the brake system. It uses the same pressurized hydraulic system fluid that the suspension is using. I had a 1983 Citroen GS and it worked the same way. It takes a little time to get used to the brake feel.
@donalmilmo-penny3085
@donalmilmo-penny3085 Жыл бұрын
One of the first cars I drove was a CX, same think and a very strange feel of you're not used to it!
@shawnlandadcdrdiv.399wr6
@shawnlandadcdrdiv.399wr6 Жыл бұрын
This car doesn't have those breaks.
@composedlight6850
@composedlight6850 Жыл бұрын
Not on the ID you are explaining the DS
@earlds111
@earlds111 Жыл бұрын
What a trip ! I was a Citroën mechanic for a year or so around 75 in Houston .Weird car .The one I primarily worked on was weird too , the SM . Thanks for the memories. !
@MGMan-ce7sf
@MGMan-ce7sf Жыл бұрын
Good for you for taking the leap. Refreshingly different than all the usual origami McLamborrari stuff we see offered out on KZbin car channels. Give it a go and see what comes of it. I suspect that even if you put lucre into fixing it, you won't lose money (or not too much at least). I also think it's interesting and significant that the Wizard sees the attraction of it.
@Merica1776
@Merica1776 Жыл бұрын
This examples is amazing. My old neighbor was a big fan of these and bought many just to make one good one. This car is in awesome shape. You definitely did not get ripped off. Get the small items worked out, gave it detailed and make a killing down the road. Take care of it Tyler. Don’t do anything stupid.
@petesmitt
@petesmitt Жыл бұрын
Tyler was just doing click bait; the usual exaggeration to get maximum attention.
@will89687
@will89687 Жыл бұрын
@@petesmitt He's getting almost as bad as Scotty - almost. This car's definitely a keeper once this pretty minor stuff gets sorted out.
@petesmitt
@petesmitt Жыл бұрын
@@will89687 Kilmer is way worse; he blatantly makes up titles that have no connection to the content of his video.
@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261
@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261 Жыл бұрын
@@petesmitt And he yells.
@scottcol23
@scottcol23 Жыл бұрын
The dash says 24,712 miles. I highly doubt its rolled over. Was probably an old lady car driven rarely.
@cattlerepairmancattlerepai9414
@cattlerepairmancattlerepai9414 Жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoy the departure from the "usual" vehicles for something interesting and quite different. Citroen has approached vehicle design differently and perhaps some viewers might enjoy seeing how they deal with suspension and inboard brakes.
@davidlabarr
@davidlabarr Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the reasonable thing to do would be getting rid of it. But that’s not what does channels for. I’d love to learn about this!
@Priza25
@Priza25 Жыл бұрын
Citroen and Saab the kings of odd design. 😂
@sethhayse6333
@sethhayse6333 Жыл бұрын
The French copy no one. No one copies the French.
@peterkornman6218
@peterkornman6218 Жыл бұрын
Keep it
@lemecanodu354
@lemecanodu354 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm a Citroën mechanic and I have several hydropneumatique cars, BX, XM, CX, and one DS. Nothing is like a typical american car, so you need to learn a lot about it. The clicking noise is from the "conjoncteur/disjoncteur", the part that regulate the hydraulic pressure in the circuit. You have a sphere on it and it is shut, because the clicking noise should not be so fast, it should takes several minutes between 2 clicks. The other 4 spheres for your suspension are shut too. The front break caliper are leaking, that's why you don't have break in front. And finaly the rubber parts of the rear hydraulic cylinders are dead. It is called in french the "cafetière" and are a common source of leaking on a DS. You have the same thing for the front cylinders. No major issues, no rust, it is a beatiful ID 19. It needs time and care, that's all. You should contact a DS owner club, they are some in your country, they will help you if you have questions for the repair and other things on the car. Good luck and sorry for my non perfect English Tristan from France
@70053morayfirth
@70053morayfirth Жыл бұрын
These are amazing cars and we see quite a few of them in the UK. Normally you need a Citroen expert to look after them, so it looks like the Wizard is about to become a Citroen expert. Can't wait to see him sort this out, whoever owns it, because these are great cars.
@gijsbug
@gijsbug Жыл бұрын
The right hand drives were build at the Slough factory in the UK.
@andygriffiths9916
@andygriffiths9916 Жыл бұрын
Good afternoon, I nearly choked on my fresh cream meringue when I saw this car on the garage. I am pouring the tea. Only 425 miles from Paris here. 🇬🇧🇫🇷🚗 These two looking at this like UFO crash retrieval made my day.
@jerehada
@jerehada Жыл бұрын
Yeah in Europe they’re not so unusual an we know they’re strange.
@andygriffiths9916
@andygriffiths9916 Жыл бұрын
@@jerehada Yeah true, I had two Citroen cars and they are strange. I think they have gone mainstream now mostly.
@gordonplatelle3522
@gordonplatelle3522 Жыл бұрын
that is a 1969 DS20. They stopped with the ID way back in the 60's. What you thought was high level stop lights are actually the direction indicators. The emergency brake works from the front disk pads. those boots that you poked holes in, have a plastic return pipe on them that redirects the fluid back to the resevoir. Once you have sorted the hydraulics and got used to driving it, you will never sell it!
@kmiylle
@kmiylle Жыл бұрын
This is an American version. No turning front lights and no indicators in the roof. Not sure if they put the stoplights or the position lights there instead.
@kmiylle
@kmiylle Жыл бұрын
Look at the front indicators too. There is a piece of trim were they should be and there are big ones under the bumper. Quite different to the european version you might be used to.
@bennyhannover9361
@bennyhannover9361 Жыл бұрын
US Citroën we’re only sold between 1968 and 1971 I believe it was no big success there
@bennyhannover9361
@bennyhannover9361 Жыл бұрын
The ID 19 was build until middle of 1969 with the old 1911 cc engine 78 bhp. One year the DS20 with the new 1984cc 94 bhp was parallel built in 1969. I guess it is the DS21 carburetor version with 2184cc 107 bhp, for the us market always the biggest! But
@jamesogara2219
@jamesogara2219 Жыл бұрын
Yes, and as you suggest, the rear suspension boot is normally filled with fluid. They each have a seal that needs to be replaced from time to time. You just bought yourself a new rear boot, fella.
@MrPlayboy28
@MrPlayboy28 Жыл бұрын
In Portugal we call those "Boca de sapo" (= "frog's mouth") due to the its front-end design and the fact it squats when parked. My grandfather used to tell me we saw one driving without wheel, as the self-leveling suspension would compensate for it.
@duncanmil1
@duncanmil1 Жыл бұрын
You definitely need to keep it! The ride height needs to be set in the middle of the range, you have it sitting on its bump stops. I doubt you will need many parts to put it right. This is going to be inexpencive, but you may want to find someone who understrands it. You dont need new struts.
@orgensuar5789
@orgensuar5789 Жыл бұрын
Wizard will know how to appreciate it ;)
@scottcarter2362
@scottcarter2362 Жыл бұрын
Please keep it! The repairs would be fascinating. And when it's all fixed, you'll have a great example of a truly weird and wonderful car.
@JagHeterAlfred
@JagHeterAlfred Жыл бұрын
A Citroën is seldom a story about making money. More about having a great time between several breakdowns. And especially something beautiful to look at while being broken down
@snoordman4831
@snoordman4831 Жыл бұрын
So true! 😆
@roys6823
@roys6823 Жыл бұрын
Dive in and recover this Hooptie. I’d watch this project.
@colingarner6175
@colingarner6175 Жыл бұрын
These cars are incredibly reliable when serviced correctly.
@snoordman4831
@snoordman4831 Жыл бұрын
@@colingarner6175 uuhm nope.. even the collectors who really treat these cars like their babies get stuck on the side of the road.. let's face it, it's french engineering.. that says enough.
@vincentstuer
@vincentstuer Жыл бұрын
@@snoordman4831 it's Citroën that's unreliable, Peugeot and Renault are not the most reliable ever (that's asian cars) but they are far from as bad as citroën
@ambirmin
@ambirmin Жыл бұрын
Hoovie please consider keeping this one and providing more content on this car. It’s such a interesting car and an amazing piece of design and engineering.
@portsidebear
@portsidebear Жыл бұрын
The overall condition of the car would warrant keeping her! When you have completed the repairs of the brakes and suspension systems, you will find out this car will have the most amazing ride you've ever experienced! Citroen has a very strong cult following including Jay Leno! Because of the cult following, there's plenty of information on how to repair and maintain these and other Citroen models as well as good sources of parts. Best of all, it won't be hard to find that one "guy" that knows these cars inside and out!
@lash9400
@lash9400 Жыл бұрын
The Citroen DS was an iconic car when it was launched in the 1950s. Power steering, self leveling suspension, adaptive cornering headlights ( thought not sure if they were available in the USA)… This project is a must. What a glorious car. ❤
@omarjette3859
@omarjette3859 Жыл бұрын
Tyler's car is made to meet what were then the headlight rules in USA. In Canada, the French swiveling pair (inboard) and the vertical pitch compensated (outboard) pair were allowed. The latter "feature" was more of a gimmick, and caused frequent bulb failure from excess filament shaking. When US sales were cancelled, one could still import the later '70s, provided that the ride height adjust lever was fitted with a lock plate (which could be easily removed). This was to meet the US bumper height rule.
@lash9400
@lash9400 Жыл бұрын
@@omarjette3859 seeing the Citroen DS on his channel was such a treat. Time for the Wizard and Tyler to check out an old episode of Wheeler Dealers to see how to learn and fix the issues it has.
@lash9400
@lash9400 Жыл бұрын
@@Hard_Right Another negative Nellie putting in their 1 cent worth in 😐
@johnwh1039
@johnwh1039 Жыл бұрын
The early DS cars didn't have swivelling headlamps. There were 2 fixed lights originally. The cornering headlamps arrived in the late 1960s/ early 1970s
@dinoboss1948
@dinoboss1948 Жыл бұрын
There's not much wrong with it honestly, especially compared to what you've already been through with your other cars. Basically everything you showed us is down to hydraulics and they shouldn't be that difficult or expensive to fix. Starting procedure is probably gonna take some time getting used to (fiddling with choke), but it doesn't sound wrong to me. Like others already said, this is a pretty good example.
@chriskappert1365
@chriskappert1365 Жыл бұрын
Best of the best suspension system ever found on a car ! They turn cobblestones in to tarmac and deliver fantastic roadholding and cornering .
@ericwps
@ericwps Жыл бұрын
This is the perfect Hooptie, Tyler! I would love to watch you go through this car with the Wizard! I like all your videos/projects but this is the most interesting one i've seen in ages, probs since the old 911 that went to Leonard.
@DSperation
@DSperation Жыл бұрын
So glad you got a Citroen at last. I've got a 70 D Super (succesor to the ID). That looks a sound ID, rust is the killer, everything else is a (relatively) easy fix. Check sills / rockers, boot floor, take rear wings off to check inner wings etc. 69 is the sweatspot year as well (old style dash). The Wizard owes you though - the rear boots are supposed to hold fluid, he's just burst a $100 part that's a fiddle to replace (and replacement rubber parts are often crap). It's the low pressure return side, the system is designed to leak a little past the high pressure seals and return to the resevoir. Bumpy ride is the spheres. I think you have powered steering (it was an option by then on the ID). Clicking is the accumultor - should be min 20-30 seconds between clicks - leaks and the accumultor sphere are the cause. Bonnet/Hood prop is on the underside of the hood, latches onto the side of the radiator. They're a pain to start from cold - full choke, no throttle, when warm no choke, full throttle. New fuel pump might help. Trade it into the Wizard and get yourself an SM for a fully weird, wallet emptying experience...
@uselessDM
@uselessDM Жыл бұрын
I don't care who has it, as long as it gets saved. These cars are so cool.
@keithb9272
@keithb9272 Жыл бұрын
So bloody jealous!!! 8 yrs ago I was swindled out of $12K from someone out of Canada for one of these beauties. One of the most amazing motorcar designs in the world in my opinion!!! PLEASE don't get rid of her!!! I would love to watch you save the beauty!!!
@kyalami9980
@kyalami9980 Жыл бұрын
My father had two DS models in the 60's and I had two DS models in the 70's. Marvelous cars that do things that were unheard of in this country. Definitely worth keeping, resolve the leaks and enjoy the best ride ever! I remember cruising down the Autbahn in Germany in 1966 at 100mph with my Dad and it felt like we were floating on a cloud!
@JACB006
@JACB006 Жыл бұрын
You really need to read the Citroen manual about ride height selection. The lowest position is NOT for driving in and you will wreck a LOT if you try it. It’s for jacking the vehicle, put it in high, insert the stunt Citroen supplied and put the lever to low. It will then automatically lift the wheel in the corner where the strut is fitted. The “Balls” are accumulators. They have a rubber diaphragm across the middle of them internally and gas is fed under pressure to the sealed end. The other end is fed to the hydraulic feed and to a hydraulic ram that has seals along it’s length . When the rubber diaphragm ruptures you get a ride with no give, very hard. When the rams seals go, you get the dust boot filling with LHM Fluid (Green Mineral oil). You need seals for the rear left suspension ram.
@alro2434
@alro2434 Жыл бұрын
It's not a dust boot, it's for fluid return, low pressure, it is meant to be leaked into, it is intentional & assures that the high pressure cylinder's piston is well lubricated.
@JACB006
@JACB006 Жыл бұрын
@@alro2434 If that is the case, it might have worked better without a new hole that the wizard put in it. I have owned a GS, CX (x3), DS Safari (x2) and don’t recall a return to the tank from the rear suspension, but you may be correct, either way the amount of fluid present means that those seal were shot.
@kasparpl1993
@kasparpl1993 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, i had to turn the video off when he put it in "highway" mode and started to drive it over the car park...I mean how ignorant can u be??
@JACB006
@JACB006 Жыл бұрын
@@kasparpl1993 He has allready said "I am so DUMB!" in the title ..... Yet here we are talking about it ..... Not sure he is so dumb.
@GuyMarcelis
@GuyMarcelis Жыл бұрын
Spot on, the Wizard and Hoovie should read this and the "Macman" comments before screwing up what seems to be a reasonably sound example ... or are we all clickbait at this point? 🤔
@CY-ww1dm
@CY-ww1dm Жыл бұрын
You missed one the oddest feature of this car: because of the crazy suspention system, it allows the car to drive on ... 3 wheels! It did actually save the life of the général De Gaulle when his car was shot at with a machine gun during an assassination attemp and a tire was shot flat, the driver managed to run away on 3 wheels at high speed! I hope Tyler will make this demonstration, that's a lot of fun to see.😅
@onelyone6976
@onelyone6976 Жыл бұрын
Citroen themselves advertised this aswell
@Zephyrus88PL
@Zephyrus88PL Жыл бұрын
It wasn't ID19 but a special version of DS ;)
@jeb419
@jeb419 Жыл бұрын
This could come in handy in parts of America….
@will89687
@will89687 Жыл бұрын
There was a high speed chase on an episode of CHiPs that highlighted this feature; it's widely available on KZbin including at watch?v=CN8YnxcRnzg. HubNut did the three-wheel test on a DS at watch?v=JlGSbNWInIQ.
@TheZenMicro
@TheZenMicro Жыл бұрын
Who's going to shoot at Hoovie?
@johnfech3985
@johnfech3985 Жыл бұрын
I love the weirdness of French cars. That is one of the cooler, to me, cars you’ve gotten lately. I love it Tyler! Save it and sell it to me. Cheap as I can’t justify buying it myself. But that is true challenge and worthy of you and the Wizard!
@jameshaddan8538
@jameshaddan8538 Жыл бұрын
Such an amazing car…I had stopped watching the channel for awhile, but this one caught my attention - couldn’t resist watching! You should keep it, I’d definitely start watching the channel regularly again.
@joealex65
@joealex65 Жыл бұрын
Tyler: "I got scammed" Also Tyler: "I bought an old French car" 😂😂
@TheReaper42069
@TheReaper42069 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@thenormalgamer9037
@thenormalgamer9037 Жыл бұрын
Mf never owned a diesel 1995 106/saxo
@saleenX02
@saleenX02 Жыл бұрын
Ha! French cars= buyer beware!
@joealex65
@joealex65 Жыл бұрын
@@thenormalgamer9037 My grandpa owned various Peugeots through his life, worst POS ever created!
@thenormalgamer9037
@thenormalgamer9037 Жыл бұрын
Why does everyone hate french cars when some of the most reliable cars ever made were french like the 505, 205,404,405,504,2cv,4l,twingo,206,2nd gen clio, xantia and far more
@stevejones9788
@stevejones9788 Жыл бұрын
My dad had 4 of these when I was a wee lad in the 1960's and 70's . The low position on the suspension control lever is for using the jack to change a tyre. You first put it at max high position , place the Jack then put it in the low position. Then the wheels on the jack side magically rise off the ground. Normal main road , highway , driving is the second position.. Beautiful cars, so advanced for their time, if a little underpowered.
@Cascade47
@Cascade47 Жыл бұрын
I grew up these cars. A 1963 DS19 limo (French ambassador's vehicle) and a custom 1966 convertible. Loved them...my Dad always like cars that were different (he was Norwegian).
@jmsjms296
@jmsjms296 Жыл бұрын
What was that custom 1966? A Chapron?
@kallekas8551
@kallekas8551 3 ай бұрын
My grandfather had a DS-21 Pallas when I was a kid in the 70s. I will never forget how wonderful it was…
@HawkDawgfan
@HawkDawgfan Жыл бұрын
Now this is the coolest car you’d bought in a long while. Can’t wait to follow this one.
@anthonyxuereb792
@anthonyxuereb792 Жыл бұрын
To appreciate these cars you have to get up close to one, they are really something special and let's not get started on the small details. Once you have driven a Citroen with its unique suspension you'll be smitten, basic spring and struts stuff won't cut it anymore such is the experience. Being rust free and so clean underneath is a huge bonus.
@anthonyxuereb792
@anthonyxuereb792 Жыл бұрын
@@Hard_Right fair comment, beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say.
@rose-ey6ct
@rose-ey6ct 9 ай бұрын
There once was a car company called NSU. When VW/Audi took them over they found the company had an awkwardising department. Once a car was designed, the deparment were set loose on ot to make everything on it as difficult as possible to work on. They sold this department to Citroen, who, apparently quadrupled it's staff and let it loose on everything they produced.
@cinccave5459
@cinccave5459 Жыл бұрын
Hoovie you have one of the greatest and most underrated cars of all time. When stationed in England I had a 1974 CX. The braking appeared to be Citroen standard. Even with maybe one brake working. Hydraulics will be expensive to fix. But do it...just do it.
@Max_McManus
@Max_McManus Жыл бұрын
Now is not the time to start making rational decisions on cars. You’ve got the ability and the support on KZbin- save this thing!
@Groovedoove
@Groovedoove Жыл бұрын
I once drove a Citroen ID19 in white from (I think) 1965 and I still dream about this car. The comfortable interior, the magnificent ride, the ease of operating it and at the same time the otherness of the car totally impressed me. A friend of mine here in Germany is a mechanic for these old Citroens, so I'm quite used to see them - and it really entertained me how amazed and baffled you were when inspecting it. But I have to say, I was in total disbelief as the wizard punched through the boot hahaha damn... that's not how to handle a hydropneumatic suspension. It was quite fun to watch though :D I'd love to see how you cope with this dream car of mine! Don't sell it, you'll love it once it's fixed.
@stevemawer848
@stevemawer848 Жыл бұрын
Back in 1970 I had a 1960 Id19. Great car bit mine had a leaky rear brake calliper (inboard disks!) and I discovered that when the mineral oil got low it fed the suspension system from the brake system! The idea of the lowering in for wheel changes - you raise the car, stick the jack under the appropriate corner, loosen the wheel, then lower it right down which raises the wheel off the ground. Cool but quirky! And you're not supposed to drive it with suspension in the lowest position!
@MetalTrabant
@MetalTrabant Жыл бұрын
This is among the top 5 coolest car you've ever bought on this channel, I'd love to see more content of it! If it's on Wizard's channel, so be it, but personally I'd prefer it here. Now imagine the looks on the faces of French car mechanics, when this came out in the late '50s... they probably thought the guys at Citroen totally lost it :D I seem to remember hearing somewhere that the factory had to give workshops to mechanics so they'd have a clue what to do with this spaceship on wheels... basically everything made different on it, just for the sake of being different. I think they wanted to make it flat engined as well, but decided not to complicate it even more... (or there was time/money restraint) And of course it's front-wheeled, Citroen was among the earliest pioneers of FWD, along with DKW in Germany.
@MikeArott
@MikeArott Жыл бұрын
The DS predecessor, the Traction had a straight six engine, but it was over 20 years old so they couldn't keep using it. For the DS, they wanted a brand new flat six engine, but André Citroën was never one to spread his bets, instead gambling all the company's money on one idea or another. They were haemorrhaging money (why they were eventually acquired by Peugeot), and couldn't afford to develop it. Instead, the DS was stuck for all its life with an underpowered 4 cylinder engine.
@thijsvdakker1615
@thijsvdakker1615 Жыл бұрын
@@MikeArott actually, for the development for the SM the bought Masarati!! They let them develop a 6 cilinder V block for it. No great succes though, there are videos about that here on KZbin..😊
@MikeArott
@MikeArott Жыл бұрын
@@thijsvdakker1615 Thanks. I never made that connection. Didn't they acquire Maserati later, when the DS was already a few years old. I'll have to look it up. Maybe a V6 wouldn't fit under the bonnet of the DS, hence the idea of a flat 6.
@tylerniday8935
@tylerniday8935 Жыл бұрын
New car technology classes are very common for factory mechanics these days. But I could see that being something out of the ordinary back then.
@CitEnthusiast
@CitEnthusiast Жыл бұрын
@@MikeArott The Traction Avant started with 4 cylinder engines, and that basic design was used in the DS. The 6 was later, and that's a Traction Avant 15/6 or 15/6H (for hydraulic rear suspension). Michelin acquired Citroën after the introduction of the DS, Peugeot took over in 1976.
@madmix44
@madmix44 Жыл бұрын
You were meant to own a Citroën and I was waiting for this for so long!! 🎉
@michaeljordan7154
@michaeljordan7154 Жыл бұрын
He looks kind of like a Citreon to me.
@michaeljordan7154
@michaeljordan7154 Жыл бұрын
Quirky, unusual, and you don't know why you like it, but you do.
@Engkushaini
@Engkushaini Жыл бұрын
Ya Hoovie Citroen
@loafnugget3088
@loafnugget3088 Жыл бұрын
His spirit car 😅
@jmsjms296
@jmsjms296 Жыл бұрын
His next purchase should be a 2 CV...
@johnpeterdean1653
@johnpeterdean1653 Жыл бұрын
A 1969 Citreon was too advanced technologically for you to understand. My Dad had one when I was 18. Took it on holiday with my brothers. It was amazing to drive. Watch out for the brakes, that little button on the floor is powerful.
@christianfournier6862
@christianfournier6862 Жыл бұрын
One must also (in a DS) be careful with the gearshift : it is very easy to go into reverse while aiming to go into drive (or the other way around) ; the lever on the dashboard is prone to mishandling and if the revs of the engine are too high, the clutch will take and the car will move ! There is the story of a Parisian who was parked near a barge on the Seine. He mishandled the gearshift and found himself over the Seine, resting on the moorings of the barge !
@janeeccleston9196
@janeeccleston9196 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had 2 Citroen’s -A C5 and a Xantia ,never had a problem with either of them -I used them as taxis and both clocked around 250 thousand mile each and the C5 was an automatic.
@alexkean8245
@alexkean8245 Жыл бұрын
I own one of these (70 DS21) and I'm not sure what suspension mode you were driving it in but you cannot drive it in the lowest notch it lets all the fluid out of the shocks that's probably why it was so bumpy. It should always be the next notch up unless you need to clear a tall obstacle. Hope the wizard can sort it out! Looks like honestly a pretty decent car that you guys just might not know a whole lot about.
@Wunderbaumsporting
@Wunderbaumsporting Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking, having had a Xantia with basically the same system. Lowest notch isn’t really for regular driving, and neither is the top level. I guess that the reason for the lowest position is that the pressure is taken off the shocks and in to the accumulators when the car sits. That being said, hydraulic citroens are something that really need to be learned. A bit quirky, yet super comfortable and even quite reliable!
@colinfuidge8660
@colinfuidge8660 Жыл бұрын
You're so lucky to own a DS21. I had one with the same colour scheme as Hoovie about 25 years ago and deeply regret getting rid of it.
@lachlancook6718
@lachlancook6718 Жыл бұрын
The way he said "that's highway" when wizard dropped it low makes me think that's exactly what he was doing.
@alexkean8245
@alexkean8245 Жыл бұрын
@@Wunderbaumsporting are you in the USA? Xantia stateside would be very cool to check out!
@alexkean8245
@alexkean8245 Жыл бұрын
@@lachlancook6718 I know I nearly cried. It's like neither of them bothered to do even a 2 minute Google search. Didn't even know it was FWD! hahahaha so cringe
@thesmallerhalf1968
@thesmallerhalf1968 Жыл бұрын
The bemused amazement at things done differently is very funny. Stretch your envelope Tyler and read up on the Citroen. Despite your horror stricken reaction there is nothing that hard or expensive to fix. It looks like a beautiful example, nurture it.
@VailingGoose
@VailingGoose Жыл бұрын
Dive into that thing Hoovie.My aunty used to have 1 of these back in the late 80s.Nostalgia moment
@TheSoupdragon1968
@TheSoupdragon1968 Жыл бұрын
That DS is in very good condition, not much rust. That's the main point, as they really rust. My father had two of them as his company cars back when they were current... You made the suspension harsh by lowering it. The soft ride is only achieved when in the correct position . Rasing it to the high position will do the same. Looks like you need a few seals . Once the leaks are stopped see if the suspension accumulator stops kicking constantly. The suspension spheres look ok, that maybe just looks but time will tell. The engine is very basic and tbh sounds very good. Under the bonnet looks excellent too... Once sorted they are the most comfortable cars ever made. They lean a lot but have excellent handling . They rallied then for years hear in Europe. The UK roads were in a bad state. You never felt anything in a DS.... Looking forward to seeing it fixed up and you using it.... Prepare to be shocked how good it is ..
@puggzymalone5824
@puggzymalone5824 Жыл бұрын
As long as we get to see more of the car I don't mind if its owned by you or the wizard! Its so unusual and I admire the way they went about it instead of looking at what everyone else does and copying that or doing something similar Citroen did there own unique thing and thats what gives a car character!
@oct2274
@oct2274 Жыл бұрын
This is a keeper. Extremely unique and it's in great condition with just the things you would expect to be failing. I say keep it.
@andriosz
@andriosz Жыл бұрын
One way or the other I want to see more of this car. As far as hydro suspension - I've heard it's really easy and cheap to sort out.
@jopiira
@jopiira Жыл бұрын
Some years ago in Finland, bomb squad had a mission about hand granade on the road. It was green hydrosuspension part from Citroen.
@fredflintstone8048
@fredflintstone8048 Жыл бұрын
A fun example of great engineering. Love the steering wheel among other things. I used to work for a guy who was military and raced these things in Germany. He had a lot of great stories to tell about them. Inboard disk brakes says they were thinking about suspension performance by reducing unsprung weight.
@carlosde6228
@carlosde6228 Жыл бұрын
You have to keep this - I LOVE IT!!! The head engineer Paul Megès was immortalized by the French playwright Marcel Pagnol with these words of praise "Everyone thought it was impossible, except an idiot who didn’t know and who created it.” I've always wanted one of these or probably the more elaborate DS. Watching you deal with this will probably remind me not to get one, but I will very much enjoy the journey. You have tried your luck with lots of cars most viewers are familiar with (although most have not actually driven them) now you can take almost everyone on an adventure with a car they have not seen in detail. I understand the motor is underpowered, something to do with post war France taxes on power. This being an ID it might never had the corner headlights swept into a turn with the wheel like the DS. Thiat was never available on the US legal cars. The design of the earlier DS in the late 50's was about as out of the world as the Jetsons were to us in the 60's. Almost every innovative (perhaps crazy is a better word) idea in car engineering was let loose on this full size car from the shape, the front wheel drive (on a big car), the full underbody sheet metal aero cladding, the suspension, the brakes (at least for the hydro-powered DS brakes), the strong self-centering steering wheel, the brake lights (I think both the one on the bumper and at the roof line light up), and the incredible comfort you have yet to experience. But there is more. If you have a flat tire (I think on the rear wheels) you can pump up the suspension to raise it and the drive it to service station at reduced speed. You can even drie it with the wheel off - perhaps not exactly recommended, but shown on KZbin somewhere.
@omarjette3859
@omarjette3859 Жыл бұрын
The rear roof mounted lights are the turn signals, while licence plate, back-up, running & brakes are in the lower group. To do "three-wheeling" the third wheel goes on the back.
@carlosde6228
@carlosde6228 Жыл бұрын
@@omarjette3859 Thanks, for the correction I goofed up on.
@manfredschmalbach9023
@manfredschmalbach9023 Жыл бұрын
Paul Magès. And You shouldn't be scared away - it's all very easily understood and very logic, in terms of hydraulics. I had a bunch back in the days when these were the cars that were the cheapest and most advanced way to drive a Citroën, and I had no budget whatsoever for shops or dealerships to spare. It was always the same three failures and always the same easy fixes. DS being a bit more prone to irregularities, but the same logic. I had hardly ever any easier-to-fix luxury cars than DSs and DSupers. And the conventional part, engine, gearbox, clutch, periphery like starter or alternator .... bullet proof was an understatement. Citroën-overengineered. I had DS and DSuper cars (in plural) with well over 500 k km and no maintenance besides repairs where it failed and never stranded ever in a grand Citroën.
@jimbojazza5539
@jimbojazza5539 Жыл бұрын
Great cars. My father had one and it ticked constantly from new so nothing amiss there. Also the brakes are basically on/off switches until you get used to them. But Tyler should get a Citroen specialist to look it over because the French generally just do things differently to spite everybody else. 🤣Didn't The Mentalist drive one of these?
@dth2brny121
@dth2brny121 Жыл бұрын
A little word of knowledge...The engine/transmission placement of the DS/ID was carried over from the 1935-1955 Traction Avant. But yes, everything about this Citroën was cutting edge when first introduced in '55, I believe this was the first automobile ever to use plastics in the interior!
@jrh2009
@jrh2009 Жыл бұрын
It's such an interesting car, it'd be a shame to punt it right away. Watching you and Wizard discover all the weird French engineering was fun.
@balkanca
@balkanca Жыл бұрын
I've been a huge Citroën SM fan for a very long time, after I had an opportunity to drive one. The Maserati engine aside, my takeaways were the oleo pneumatic suspension, the brakes (especially the round pedal itself) and the self leveling headlights. It was a masterpiece of engineering for it's time. While I'm sad to see what's actually happened to Citroën over the years, their rich history is full of weird and wonderful engineering qwirks. This ID19 is no exception, what a classy looking car. I've always been fascinated by their futuristic engineering. The positioning of the brake lights is also rather clever.
@BaltimoreAndOhioRR
@BaltimoreAndOhioRR Жыл бұрын
Neat aerodynamic cooling channels for the front brake discs. Lots of engineering went into this car.
@davidthomas-lp1ru
@davidthomas-lp1ru Жыл бұрын
I've recently sold one having had it for a number of years. I'm surprised you didn't do your homework before making that video. You should keep it, it looks in really good condition, the repairs needed should not cost much, minimal parts and a few hours labour should fix it judging by what I saw in the video. They are great to drive and the brakes are excellent !
@mauricecohen3830
@mauricecohen3830 Жыл бұрын
The Citroen DS was introduced in the 1950's. It was way ahead of its time. I rode in a DS 23 fuel injected in Europe. It is the most comfortable car I've ever ridden in.
@Blasterxp
@Blasterxp Жыл бұрын
Did you like the break button?
@mauricecohen3830
@mauricecohen3830 Жыл бұрын
@@Blasterxp The travel is so short, it takes some time to get used to but it works very well.
@FLUPHQ-
@FLUPHQ- Жыл бұрын
This is the coolest car you've gotten in a while, you HAVE to keep it
@richardsmith579
@richardsmith579 Жыл бұрын
Hydraulics on these are easy to fix. However, you do need access to spare parts and knowledgeable technicians. It’s rust that kills these cars, so a clean body shell means no real fears. This was hard to watch because of the total stupidity.
@larsbambi1575
@larsbambi1575 Жыл бұрын
Love you Hoov&wiz. I'm sitting in hospital with kidney stone , I just got a shot of Demerol and I haven't told you lately how much I love you💚
@larsbambi1575
@larsbambi1575 Жыл бұрын
I also love the X-ray ologist. She is a sweetheart.. she's nice to look at it as well. I should propose to her
@nickb8257
@nickb8257 Жыл бұрын
Seems pretty good apart from the hydraulic issues. Not too hard to fix, you can still buy all the parts. Looks like it doesn’t have any rust issues which is good. I think you got a good deal. BAT definitely does have to get sellers to disclose more information on condition and problems with some vehicles- but that’s why you should inspect a car in person! I had a shock a few years back with a vehicle that should have been described as a ‘project’. Got it sorted eventually but much more work/cost than anticipated.
@OMGWTFLOLSMH
@OMGWTFLOLSMH Жыл бұрын
Auctions are often dumping grounds where people fight each other in an effort to overpay. BaT has gotten so large, it can't vet these vehicles properly anymore. They do get plenty of nice units through there, and there are some occasional deals, but much of it's overpriced. I'll never forget the day someone paid $69,500 + fees, for a rusty '72 Espada, sitting in a field with the engine and interior in pieces. They might break even in 25 years.
@bannerzone_UK
@bannerzone_UK Жыл бұрын
The self-levelling suspension, known as hydro-pneumatic suspension was designed by Paul Magès (think that's how his surname is spelt) and as a kid, being brought up round my fathers businesses in the car trade I've been intrigued by the suspensions on Citroens
@aaronlopez492
@aaronlopez492 Жыл бұрын
Back in the '80s, I had a Jaguar with that great" suspension", it never worked.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 Жыл бұрын
@@aaronlopez492 The hydro pneumatic was always the only thing that worked decently on Citroens. I wonder where Hoovie got this one, its not rusted away. Strange.
@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus
@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus Жыл бұрын
@@wolfgangpreier9160 Its not rusting because its been covered in leaked oil since its first day out of the factory, its not a bug, its a feature.
@sirroundsound9104
@sirroundsound9104 Жыл бұрын
Spelt?? LMAO dude you gotta be kidding
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 Жыл бұрын
@@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus 🤣🤣😂😂👍👍
@broken12367
@broken12367 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had 3 French cars all Peugeots. The second one was so unlucky and was intent on making me broke. When it did blow up I left at the side of the road for months. I finally scrapped it and was glad to see it go.
@alansharp1528
@alansharp1528 Жыл бұрын
Good friend and ace mechanic Ray C knows the Citroen DS/ID inside out. 40 yearrs of experience , repairing and restoration, there isn't much he has not repaired. Good luck with yours, it'll be worth the effort when complete.
@bullieboi
@bullieboi Жыл бұрын
To remove the rear tires, you must first remove the rear fenders. There should be a tool in the trunk to turn the clips that hold the fenders on.
@Blasterxp
@Blasterxp Жыл бұрын
It could drive on 3 wheel, right?
@vidfletch
@vidfletch Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJ2qhJWEjK6hf7M
@bladelee193
@bladelee193 Жыл бұрын
@@Blasterxp oui
@bullieboi
@bullieboi Жыл бұрын
@@Blasterxp I have heard that, and I have seen video of that. But I never tried it with mine. I always raised it to the highest level and then placed the static prop under the car and let it back down. The wheel is then left in the air ready to be removed.
@grayfool
@grayfool Жыл бұрын
This is a really nice example. The hydraulic issues are not too much of a problem. I can't wait to see Hoovies reaction when he discovers you can drive these on three wheels.
@rebeltvr6046
@rebeltvr6046 Жыл бұрын
@@grayfool France's President was driving in one of these (Gaulle) and terrorists shot up the car, one of the tires was flat, but the driver was able to use the hydraulics to drive on 3 wheels and get the President to safety. Yeah, these are special cars. They were the Tesla of their time.
@grayfool
@grayfool Жыл бұрын
@@rebeltvr6046 Yep, these are incredible cars.
@brankog7
@brankog7 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful car, great color scheme! Will be a great cruiser once it's sorted
@tiptoptopcat
@tiptoptopcat Жыл бұрын
What a brilliant buy. These seem to fetch decent money in Europe. Be great to see the car repaired (and painted black) .
@vnorvi
@vnorvi Жыл бұрын
My uncle had one identical, but in tan. You should definitely keep it. Of all your crazy cars, this is the one your kids will remember when they are 65. They say “there is nothing like it” about many cars but with this one it is absolutely true. All the issues on this will be resolvable. Just takes time to learn about them. Ps- as you will learn you should definitely not have popped that bulb.
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