California hits 22% EV marketshare - Top 10 best selling EVs in 2024

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[@JohnZolla-bp7tl]

My Subaru Outback lease was up last month. I didn't even consider the Solterra or BZ4X. Elon turned me off Tesla. I got a great lease on a Hyundai Ioniq 5. I'm extremely happy with my decision. I average 100 miles/month and charge at home.

[@dvader3263]

Everyone has a house full of items made in communist China. Henry Ford was an anti-semite. Marry Barra lied about having two dozen EVs long ago. Carlos Ghosn of Nissan is a criminal and fugitive who was smuggled out of Japan in an instrument box. Volkwagen executives lied, cheated and polluted the Earth. Toyota is presently being investigated for emissions cheating on industrial motors in the USA. Executives for any company are not angels. Tesla has thousands of good employees who design, engineer and build the EVs. Musk is just a CEO, he doesn't assemble the vehicles. Don't let the opinions of one person get in your head and dictate what products to purchase.

[@b4804514]

California has a lot of very smart people

[@tilapiadave3234]

INSANE people

[@ParasiteZappers]

It's because the poor people are starting to find out you can charge them for free at Libraries, Police Stations and what have you. Craigslist is selling used Nissan Leafs for staggering low prices. I test drove a 2012 and was blown away. Awesomely made in Japan 👏

[@mikeshafer]

Love my Rivian ! I wish they had gone to NACS for the R1 gen2. I would have traded in my existing R1S.

[@knutk5863]

In Norway alot of people have bought the bz4z. I think it's a lot of old people who are accustomed with equality in non electric Toyota

[@BlindedByLogic]

Wish the progress was faster, but still good to see record growth for BEVs in CA, seems like NEVs are at 26% for CA (according to the chart) while China is at 55%. Crazy how far behind we are... Still the technology keeps improving while the prices keep falling. As long they keep building the charging infrastructure, I expect BEVs to be over 50% of new cars sold in USA by 2030.

[@meanders9221]

Today's L.A. Times says "New car market share for battery electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles rocketed from 7.6% of new registrations in 2020 to 12.2% in 2021, 19.1% in 2022 and 24.9% in 2023. For the first nine months of this year, however, the market share has inched up to 25.6%, amid continuing concerns among some consumers over the higher cost for EVs and so-called range anxiety." Slightly different numbers in some cases than you quoted but in agreement overall that EV market penetration is moving right along in California.

[@connclissmann6514]

Can we all agree that plug-in hybrids don't count as EVs? There is little data to show how much they are driven on battery versus carbon fuels.

[@ohiojohn4125]

True. But if you know the change resistant they need this step. Or they will not buy EV. See my comments on the Midwest. USA. Even if they just charge once a month it introduces them to EV process.

[@frankcoffey]

Correct. If it has a tailpipe for ANY reason it's not an EV.

[@Furtivo95]

Mr Viking. According to the CEC- there are 2000 gas stations in LA county- the County King of gas consumption and smog in America. Each station makes $70k-$100k profit. In 2024 LAC gas demand is dropping by 2%- mostly due to the 250,000 EVs making LAC the Capital of EVs in America. Big Oil said gas consumption would never go down. At what point will stations start selling off their businesses. With thousands of EVs being purchased every week, a collapse seems to be imminent but when can you forecast it?

[@rp9674]

I can see it, all brands except haven't seen the new Fiat yet

[@mattkramer4132]

I'm in California and I bought a 2025 Tesla Model 3 Long Range RWD a couple of weeks ago. I bought it because I like the car (my first EV). I could care less what Musk's political views are, what Trumps political views are and what Harris/Walz political views are. I don't sit around wasting MY time obsessing about who's going to be the next CA Governor or President. I've done more for my own life than any politician (no matter what political party) could ever do for me. I'm getting up in years and I've been on this planet long enough to know that I control MY own destiny. Politicians (again, no matter what party) are pretty much the same as used car salesman in my book. Foster your own success and don't let Trump, Harris or anybody tell you that the world is about to end if the other person gets elected. Grow and feed your own success with your own brain everybody.

[@ParasiteZappers]

Now you're talking! Whoohoooo 👏...Holla from Fresno California 👊

[@ledzeppelin1212]

I agree. That's why I vote Libertarian. They don't want to put tariffs on cheap Chinese EVs.

[@SparkySho]

Smartest comment I’ve read in vweeks tytyty

[@eu7435]

Stellantis (Jeep, Ram, Dodge) has fallen in market share because it has priced it's vehicles far too high.

[@ctuna2011]

50k is the low end on there trucks . They have inventory from three years ago they can't sell on some lots.

[@ourv9603]

California is the #1 EV market IN THE WORLD. !

[@bondnikunj]

China!

[@cottagegymfun]

Netherlands

[@larryc1616]

💙California #1 Always and Forever ⚡️🇺🇲

[@Aggie4life77]

I’ve been telling people that the best way to move people To EV’s is raising gas prices! California has some of the highest gas prices in the country!

[@kevinW826]

The thing is, PHEVs still have a GAS motor in them, so you have to be realistic and take those out of this equation and watch as the numbers drop. Get real, you’re still using gas just like BC hydro is using GAS generators to power their EV charging stations.

[@buixote]

Don't forget the *Blazer EV* ... first one I saw was a City Fire Vehicle in Palo Alto.. get it, *Blazer* ? Ha Ha!

[@JDMSwervo2001]

Well yea California has the highest gas prices and a governor who’s trying to kill the oil market there

[@b4804514]

SO WE CAN ALL BREATHE

[@neilkurzman4907]

Maybe you should talk to the refineries. Because California uses a specific type of gas it’s only made a certain refineries and they’re not keeping up with production

[@Rizzler420-uh4yd]

I wouldn’t be surprised if the CA Secretary of State ended the clean air sticker HOV access program soon…

[@CC86CA]

They already announced awhile back that the HOV access sticker program will be discontinued in September 2025.

[@dexlab7539]

It is ending soon

[@philf6153]

Bz4x and soltera are selling because of dirt cheap leases of sometimes under 200 a month

[@TSinRM]

We live in California and bought a Tesla Model Y last December and are very happy with the vehicle. If Elon had made his bed with Trump back then I think we would be driving an Ioniq 5 now. He has really shot himself in the foot with a lot of potential new EV owners here.

[@Pinakij]

I live down the street from lucent.. are they going out of business because the cars look beautiful and everybody that drives them are completely happy with em?

[@eu7435]

It's Lucid not Lucent. Yes, they are superior to Tesla in quality, efficiency, suspension, and (to my eye) appearance.

[@chrishaberbosch1029]

Unfortunately they’re losing like $100,000 per car..

[@nerdbikes3841]

Rivian can’t get the R2 line out the door fast enough. They need that $50k price point desperately. There is not enough $80K+ buyers out there to launch a brand. I can;to wait for the R3X tri-motor Rally car. I hope they can last until that is finally produced.

[@you2be839]

22% EV marketshare in sales... well, that's cute, but will somebody please wake me up when at least 40% of all cars being driven on the roads of a country (or state) are EVs?... They told me EVs are the future some 15 years ago already, so I really want to see when that future will arrive, what it will look like, and if it will finally be worth investing on a EV without the feeling of being nothing but a Premium ECO Beta EV Tester that drives a vehicle that belongs to a still niche car market that doesn't seem to know the state it will be in 5 years from now!...

[@ledzeppelin1212]

We would be closer to that if Dems and Republicans would stop pushing tariffs on Chinese EVs.

[@RussellFineArt]

As a native Californian, this is GREAT news, and an in-your-face to Elon Musk who moved Tesla to a state that doesn't give a rat's butt about EV's and Tesla's are illegal to be sold in the state. Nice.

[@pranshukrishna5105]

build affordable housing first

[@TomasitsAkos]

Musk is great.

[@paulc6766]

You have to take the fight to the enemy, which is why the European factory was always going to be in Germany.

[@larryc1616]

As a Californian, I hate apartheid space karen. So glad he self deported to welfare confederate teabagger Texas 🎉

[@Rizzler420-uh4yd]

I trust Musk. You should like TDS has ruined you.

[@ohiojohn4125]

That is China and Tesla have no plug in hybrid. Not To. Typo

[@lancemcdonald2078]

Test drive a Tesla, you’ll quickly understand while the number 1 selling car in the world (ice and bev), is the Tesla Model Y.

[@arthurkirsch8188]

On the 3rd of November I will have had my rav4 prime for 2 months. In a few more days I will have 3,000 miles 500 each month electric only 1,000 gas only a month so a third of my miles are electric. I’ll buy a full electric when the right suv with the right battery comes out lfp.

[@Rizzler420-uh4yd]

Tesla has been using LFP in certain models for years.

[@Scoutss21962]

I like BEVs, however Elon Musk's politics turn me off to the point that I'll never purchase a Tesla.

[@rp9674]

Me too

[@ctuna2011]

We have the worst Gas Prices in the nation is some of the motivation . I think it may rival or be worst than Hawaii which use to have that title. There is a Red Republican part of California through the Central Valley Bakersfield to Redding also San Diego . As you said in your other article you would be fool not to buy a Tesla in California because of the support network. I don't like that Elon is trying to make America Trumpistan though .

[@ohiojohn4125]

Sam. I live in California. I have some input. One the Tesla sales fall is very much the fact that the competition is catching up. Not all political. It is odd he moves to state against EV. But chasing money only I get Musk. Even if I do not agree to just chase money. That said. Look past the west. If you go to the Midwest and Ohio valley where I grew up and talk to locals. They do not think the EV will make it thru winters. They see no charging stations. They really want gas. Plus less expensive. Recently they started to like hybrids. Also they see pure EV giving edge to China low cost EV. But they make a lot of gas engines. But we need to jump in with our auto makers. Look into a push with incentives to cut the cost for plug in hybrid with more than 50 miles pure electric to hit mid west. They are change resistant. But if they buy in. They have gas to take away fear of no charging. Incentives match cost. The plug in keep those jobs in Midwest over next ten years as example, that is a big plus for them. They need a first step to gain comfort. Also buys time for our auto manufacturers to catch up with EV China. And China and Tesla have to plug in. Win win for them. And moves us closer to climate change win. Not as fast as all EV but all EV in next 15 years is pipe dream in mid west. But they need to see lower cost change. Ev charging popping up. And end to the anxiety of no place to charge or cold weather if all EV. Look into this. Sorry for any typo.

[@ctuna2011]

Next generation of EV battery's will start to solve the Charge Loss with Cold and the some of the fast charging issues. Yeah the Middle of the country does not have good charging support and the distances are longer in some cases. I can understand why people want to keep there gas cars or get hybrids there.

[@ohiojohn4125]

@ yes. But it is more than that. I talk to them often. Even if that improves they simply do not like change. They do not believe in climate change politically too. They do like cutting costs. So key to get them moving is getting them in part gas part ev. Then they learn they tell me. But it has to be cheaper with gas as a fall back until charging stations are everywhere. Just do not get the charge at home. So many from my high school and current kids there from family see no need. Save them money and show that it saves them local jobs is key. But local politics does not want that. A mess. Only the big three word can help or union message that it will save jobs. Gotta be a money saver. Tens of friends express that same thing. Let alone the fact that many as hoppy like working on there cars, much more than in the west. Just saying. Hope Sam is listening.

[@b4804514]

A lot of this bad EV media attention is promoted by big oil and manufacturers that are failing the EV designs. Most people drive less that 30 miles a day. Climate is not a problem or any of the other issues like they burst into fire. BS sells

[@capitalm1257]

Move to California then.

[@neilkurzman4907]

You can buy an electric car in any state. You don’t have to move to California to get one.

[@alexishart1989]

I bought a BZ4X because I'm an idiot. Just slap a Toyota badge on a steaming pile of dog crap and I'll pay good money for it. Let's go, Toyota!

[@lifeliver9000]

Haha. Classic. You stick to your Toyotas. Thanks for sharing. Most want speed,and cheap travel. Chinese EVs are the go to, though teslas 1000km range juniper is of interest

[@alexishart1989]

​@@lifeliver9000lol, spoiler alert: I didn't actually buy a Toyota

[@lifeliver9000]

@ lol 👍

[@mikemulrooney4824]

The F150Lightning is a good truck but people want to buy the new different product The Cybertruck.

[@douglascutler1037]

California: the birth place of car culture in America, now leading the way to the next generation.

[@mikeshafer]

I think 2026 is the year where we see acceleration in EV market share. Universal NACS in the US, dozens of new vehicles to choose from, cheaper and better batteries, and tens of thousands of new fast chargers. It’s coming together!! Let’s hope Kamala wins so Trump doesn’t kill the industry to protect oil.

[@Aggie4life77]

I can see it! Also if car makers launch more electric cars in that 40k or $50k range, it will be a major boost!

[@ledzeppelin1212]

Dems added tariffs to cheap EVs. They don't care either. Both parties suck if you ask me. I voted Libertarian.

[@alexisperez4100]

Musk must go!

[@Rizzler420-uh4yd]

You go

[@davidcottle7346]

Another cry babe

[@ltribley]

Examine the demographics of CA and you still have a sizable population that can afford EV's. The declining middle class in CA and across the US can't afford an EV or for that matter any new car and auto loan defaults are at their highest level yet.

[@neilkurzman4907]

Are you really gonna use 5 to 10-year-olds statistics to make your point. The first electric vehicles were all luxury cars that’s why they were expensive. The average person can’t afford a gas BMW. You can buy an electric car for under $30,000. And after you do, you will save a lot on fuel cost, and maintenance

[@rp9674]

I bought a 2015 Fiat 500e in 2018 for $8,000, but I'm rich

[@FrankGallagherr]

Who loathes Gavin Newsom to the core??

[@NighthunterNyx]

Tesla is collapsing their sales are falling way back compared to BYD not only in number of cars but now revenue. Will Tesla loose Chinese market and shut down?

[@KP-xi4bj]

Globally, Tesla's sales have increased. Tesla's profits > BYD's profits. Tesla losing Chinese market and shut down? Wishful thinking. Keep coping.

[@NighthunterNyx]

@ check the latest report. Tesla is collapsing. BYD has soared way ahead in both cars sold and revenues. Teslas are pretty bad cars. Lowest reliability rating of all brands in Europe. Even Dacia fares much better.

[@KP-xi4bj]

@@NighthunterNyx "Tesla delivers 462,890 cars globally in Q3, higher than BYD's BEV sales" "That's up 6.4 percent from 435,059 in the same period last year and up 4.26 percent from 443,956 in the second quarter." Source: CnEVPost (Oct. 2, 2024) Research much? LMFAO SMH Keep coping.

[@KP-xi4bj]

@@NighthunterNyx "Earlier this month Tesla said it sold 462,890 vehicles from July to September, up 6.4% from a year ago" - CarDealer (Oct. 24, 2024) Keep coping.

[@NighthunterNyx]

@ mhm and BYD sold about twice as many and reaped more revenue. So fanboys have little the cheer on in the sinking Tesla ship

[@michaelcatlin-e8l]

Musk has definitely hurt sales in Calli !!

[@JohnZolla-bp7tl]

You got that right!