Callaway Epic Flash SZ VS. Titleist TS2 | The Driver Bracket - Round 3

[@lovepeacewar32]

You guys provide the best golf reviews on KZbin by far! Please keep the great content coming😊👍

[@jeffjohnson4856]

i have thoroughly enjoyed all of these videos and have learned so much about the fitting process that I have used for myself. A big thank you to Ian and Matt keep them coming....

[@CSqrdX]

Absolutely great stuff. This feels like going back to school by choice and learning stuff you love. You guys are the best!

[@user-xr3ry9wu4y]

Just booked with Ian for September never been this excited about anything golf related 😂

[@banditbaker1675]

It's a Great experience Elias, ENJOY!!!!!

[@jeremystafford8374]

Another great battle showing how close the different manufacturers are . Thanks for your efforts. ( fantastic swings Matt , very impressive amount of knowledgeable information Ian ).

[@scotthardy2848]

Great series of tests. Beautiful, consistent swing Matt

[@hbspencer5527]

I too have enjoyed this bracket series. I got fitted over the weekend the Ping 410LST performed horrible for my swing. Fitter couldn't believe it. Came down to Flash sub zero and TS4. I just couldn't get the weight in the sub zero correct. It either felt too light or too heavy, but I will say it hit like a hammer. But the TS4 was clear winner with the Vylin shaft. Finally found something that performed better than my M2. So I am so looking forward to the play in bracket with the TS4. The sound and speed off the face was eye opening for me. 96mph swing speed, got my spin rates down to 2600-2800. Looking forward to getting it after the build from Club Champion. NEVER would have thought I would be swinging a Titleist.

[@frankyang7958]

I was rooting for TS2 purely based on sound. Great video and nicely done Iron Matty!

[@uwrossl]

I'd love to see a low spin battle with Sub Zero, LST, and TS4. Really surprised TS2 showed as well as it did considering the type of head it was against. Spin numbers were quite low. Lack of bulge and roll is what pushed me into TS3 at my fitting from TS2. Couldn't get used to the overly square look and hit everything left. Such a great idea doing a head to head battle this way. Keeping us all on the edge of our seats!

[@paulkoppenheffer5323]

The hard punching Callaway Kid fighting out of the green corner comes out on top and puts some green in my pocket. Great test. The Titleist drivers do sound great. Interested to see how TS3 fairs in the later rounds.

[@brettrobbins5182]

You guys fit me with the Epic Flash SZ with Drago. It’s greatly exceeded my expectations on the course ⚡️🐉

[@ianfrasergolf]

Brett Robbins 🙌🏻

[@glennsmith7897]

I hit most of those drivers in a recent fitting and the 9° Epic Flash Subzero came out tops for me - picked up 20yds carry over my old driver 👍

[@cwugrad396]

Closer than I thought for Matt. TS2 did good for an 8 seed

[@GSHOCKOUTDOORS]

Oh to have a half-backswing 300+ yard carry swing! Great to see the TS2 hang with the flash SZ. I'll be honest I was surprised it was so close. Great video

[@johnjohnson9431]

“There’s something about this ball flight that I like” Prolly the part where it baby draws 1 yard offline and goes 330 yards

[@barrymills8597]

Got an epic flash, not the sub zero but absolutely love it. Great guys.

[@banditbaker1675]

Such a Fun series, it's worth missing my afternoon Nap for! .....Well almost😊 I'm looking forward to the Grand Finale a Bomb fest between the EPIC SZ Flash and the PING G410 LST! 💥💥BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@georgebroom8517]

Another good test set. Nice one Matt. Can see you going, "All the Way with the Sub Z".

[@MK355]

Love these videos. Watching from Melb 🇦🇺👍

[@agustinfeliciano9715]

love it, cant wait for the end results!!!

[@alldayrays7110]

Can’t thank you guys enough for doing this bracket challenge, as I have been wanting to replace my current weapon and very soon. With the Epic Flash moving into the next round I feel validated but not completely exonerated with my selection. Certainly some tougher contests ahead!! Can’t wait! Matt, maybe you could do a compilation of these into a full single video later to summarize the challenge?

[@juantrujillo4200]

These driver videos are proving that all the drivers out right now are good. Very minimal differences in the #’s

[@golf007sd2]

Totally agree...in the end it comes to feel, sound and aesthetics.

[@tomvrabel6811]

Enjoying the series! Finally moved the green back for Long Ball Blois. ..

[@oggyjamesjro1697]

Great stuff guys looking forward to the rest of tests

[@RequiemDead]

I was only ribbing yah about the TS3, Matty. I love yah guys! This video series is definitely so much fun. I have to say that Epic Flash SB is a fairway finder for you, Matty. Maybe a contender against your gamer?

[@michaelnowak3570]

Thank You, I enjoyed the epic ts2 test. I would love to see more on shafts verses swing speed and swing delivery.

[@the2nd990]

Thanks guys... I was starting to panic yesterday! Cheers

[@davidlieux2558]

what a great series

[@slushpuppy6991]

Love the test, I do agree that ts2 does have a great sound!

[@golf007sd2]

When I test it out vs the TS3..it felt great as well. The ability to fine-tune the TS3 is what made it a better choice for me.

[@colinboxall2692]

I have the epic flash sz and the noise is like an explosion. After each tee shot you look at the club head to check nothing is broken ! The flash also stays straight down the right hand side - noticeably. RH player. Seeing the same things as Matty (not the 300 carry 🤷‍♂️). The sz head is great to look at and line up too. Sits so well behind the ball and down target line.

[@mdui2010]

I just cannot get over the sound of the epic flash this year. To much like an aluminum bat

[@sicilylive2203]

It's terrible

[@brandoncjgrimes]

I’m enjoying these videos idc what yal commenters complaining about lol. Keep em coming fellas!

[@juancolmenares6185]

Can’t wait for part 4!

[@Jonnyfishstix]

Hey just wanted to say I have throughly enjoyed every video you guys have put out! Your information is top notch and content is both entertaining and informative. From live chat I mentioned I wanted to improve your lighting. I feel the videos you put out are great and the lighting doesn’t do it justice. I don’t know the setup you are using but even the angle/size of the lights would make a big difference. Once again I think the videos are great!

[@clubchampionmedia]

appreciate the concern, but we're dealing with a very confined space to light and nothing can be permanently fixed as it's still a clubfitting space 90% of the time. There's only about 6 feet from the desk to the hitting area, so keeping lights off camera and out of the backswing causes a lot of restrictions on where they can be placed and the type of lights used.

[@Jonnyfishstix]

TXG Tour Experience Golf I fully understand that. I don’t know what light stand you use but check out the manfrotto 231b column stand. I mount my camera and a 6ft softbox to that one stand and use for interviews at times. When you are done you just roll away the whole setup. The middle column can get a light rather high as well. But for your talking head stuff a light mounted above your head aimed down at you guys would look really nice. If you need the light source to be large but the fixture to be smaller falcon eyes LED flexible panels are awesome as well as FlapJack LED discs! Once again. I really do love your videos and have watched nothing but them essentially the last few days.

[@jaredm109]

I struggle with the face being closed with my hybrid. Would a toe weight yield similar results? I was thinking of putting some lead tape on the toe. Any suggestions? Thank you!

Fun test and as you say it's for Matt so it does not diminish what happened. It's interesting to observe the subtle improvements on a great swing and no doubt as Matt keeps improving the small margins, maybe his choice of driver and shaft will also change. It seems to me it's an on going process.

[@maamold]

Before the video even starts I owned the TS2 setup as a fairway finder with my old garbage swing. Once I change my swing it was a spin machine (~36000rpm) I traded it in for the Epic Flash SZ that gave me another 20 yards and spin dropped to ~2200. I wanted to like the TS2, had a great sound and wanted to try the TS3 but they didn't have one in the 9° loft for me to hit.

[@jaybyrne4562]

How is Matt not a tour pro hitting bombs like that? 🏌️ 💣 💥⛳

[@banditbaker1675]

That's an easy one....he has a Shite short Game and he is much too nice! Matty's a Lover, not a Fighter! 🤣🤣

[@nicholasdalton5678]

Once you get down to the final two heads, will you play around with shafts if you feel necessary?

[@ianfrasergolf]

Nicholas Dalton perhaps!!

[@scottwarner7728]

I play a 917 D3 & I love it. Titleist make the best sounding drivers. I have tested Callaway, but won't use them, they are way too loud for me.

[@aidangriffiths5075]

no surprise obviously ha EPIC driver 😉

[@chadcrosby3363]

Did you move the green back? i will have to go back and check the other vids but it felt like Matt was short not running through the green.

[@sylar1980xbox]

Another great video, I cant get enough. Interested to see what wins overall.

[@chasingthesun745]

I love my original GBB Epic SZ.

[@jdmferio08]

Awesome test fellas. Could we see Ian doing a test in the future ?

[@ianfrasergolf]

Prob not on this series but yes I may tag in for another series.

[@eddiepr2730]

I just want money to get a fitting from you guys, that's all I want in life

[@anthonytodd5308]

clear cut winner

[@gzman1]

Matt has to play the winner for 4 rounds and give feedback, for the love of the game!

[@whogg0521]

Just another great vid

[@neilgardner5759]

Callaway make great drivers; ERC FT-3 Epic, etc. Best ones in my opinion

[@joelane2845]

Do you think the Titleist TS 3 has better sound and feel than the PXG Gen 2 driver. Also, which head seems more forgiving? Thanks!!

[@uwrossl]

I'd agree with Matt and Ian that Titleist TS series drivers have the best sound to them on the market. Haven't hit the PXG but in regards to forgiveness I find the TS3 to be very forgiving. Really maintains ball speed for me across the face. Would love to hit a PXG driver just for fun!

[@whiskerrub3821]

What is going on here? Should manufacturers advertising also be consider for criteria, you know creative interpretation points? I’m not predicting winners anymore I’m batting zero so far. Great job boys! 👍

[@brentkrug]

Frankly, I don't understand why sound bothers people either way.....whether loud or quiet it boils down the the numbers and of course any head you don't like the sound of can be HOT MELTED. The hot melt glue will dampen any driver head so sound can easily be changed anyway. Very few places talk about or offer hot melt is probably the bigger issue.

[@elmatador7528]

For me the sound of the Titleist gives it the edge ...

[@parnopsiripornpak428]

Epic Flash SZ... great flight but oh the sound... horrible! TS and Ping G400 sounds the best. I'm still not used to Matt's new short back swing. Great video. Can't wait to see the M6 vs ST190.

[@dre6021]

Love Matt's simple and powerful swing! I'd really love to see a high end shaft comparison such as the Diamana DF 60X vs Aldila NXT Gen NV 65X (Specs R Close to another) because the majority of golfers won't spend $350+ on a shaft but will on a $60-$100. If the intent was to compare "heads" then I get the video's msg. Thanks!

[@neilclapperton6203]

Loving this ⛳👍👌

[@matthewtoohey9656]

Love it guys

[@charlesarias7438]

So I noticed that you adjusted the driver, when y’all did the testing of the G410, you didn’t adjust it.

[@MikeDoba]

Side question... Have a buddy in Charleston SC. Recommendation for a fitter in the area?

[@ianfrasergolf]

Doba unfortunately I don’t know any fitters down there.

[@MikeDoba]

@@ianfrasergolf .. I guess he will have to come home and visit TXG

[@bobbydwyer7718]

Headphones in at my desk in work with my 'busy face' on TS2 to take a surprise win.

[@banditbaker1675]

Bobby, "Get Back to Work"!!!!!! lol

[@shellbmb7]

Is the wild card the 410 LST head?

[@ianfrasergolf]

Jeff Shell yes

[@crushedalot]

Not to be too picky but the TS2 10.5 cannot be set to 9.5 as stated. It was 9.75 Great video. Really close. I am having hard time choosing next driver and these are the final 2 Im looking at. Sure wish the clubs came with a swing like that !

[@craigziegler1937]

I've got an Epic Flash SZ and my buddies used to complain about the sound until they saw how much farther I am past their drives...now two of them have ordered my driver. Enough said...

[@greenadam21]

Not sure you ever got them but the Triple diamond flash head has been way better for me than both the std and sub heads...fade bias on it is great

[@LeTran-dv3kt]

Go....... EPIC FLASH....

[@gskeff]

Matty the Machine

[@randymahony8157]

I love the flight of the Flash but now I have an ear ache. Does it come with ear plugs? Good video again. CONGRATULATIONS to Toronto and the Raptor fans!! Wrong sport.

[@sumorich1978]

I'll let it go after this one lol. My question on the Cobra weight not being forward had as much to do with the M5 weights being forward and toe. I don't understand that if these drivers are set up optimally for the way Matt is swinging today, how that setup is optimal on the M5, but square face and heavy weight in back on the F9 is also an optimal setting for the same player. Head dynamics alone keep that from being apples to apples, those settings made it apples to broccoli. F9 rant over- the end.

[@robertjenkins2848]

I too appreciate a driver with good acoustics. Even if a driver hits well, if the impact sound blows out my ear drums, it's gotta go.

[@oldgold5848]

One slight thing guys, and only tiny, but I think all the ts shots went to the right, whereas the dispersion of the flash was both sides of straight.....as such you could argue that the ts was more predictable???? Maybe???

[@ianfrasergolf]

OLDGOLD I would call it one dimensional, good for some people but bad for a player like Matt who needs to have the ability to shape it both ways.

[@oldgold5848]

@@ianfrasergolf fair point Ian.

[@TommyDawson]

If I was fit for Callaway i'd have to have some hot melt put it in just to dumb down that ting!

[@davidjones1907]

Ian you know I love your content. Why oh why didn't you put the G410 in the flat setting. If you are going to open up some and not others it's not right

[@ianfrasergolf]

David Jones we’ve answered this question a million times. The club convex adapters we use don’t offer flat settings. That’s proprietary technology owned by Ping.

[@ronmarcelo7370]

Phil - “Make the worst sounding driver ever. Think broken aluminum baseball bat.” Callaway - “Say no more.”

[@kw12784]

If TS2 had a movable weight like TS3, I would bought one myself (I would struggle with turning it over slightly too much). I think Titleist missed a trick here. Sub Zero for sure the clear winner for Matt with that ball flight.

[@BarnDwellers]

Did you move the green back from your other rounds?

[@golf007sd2]

The sound of the Calaway and the higher spin...more the sound makes it a nay nay for a recommendation on my end.

[@stevenstewart1308]

Great vid but the sound of the Epic would keep me from buying it no matter the performance.

[@jamesconnor4479]

Steven Stewart i have one. It sounds lovely.

[@williebrown1974]

LMFAO, yeah right.

[@stevenstewart1308]

@@williebrown1974 yeah, that is right. Not only does it sound horrible, it's also one of the worst looking drivers this year colour wise. It's a no from me no matter what and we both know it's no better performing than anything else.

[@williebrown1974]

@@stevenstewart1308 It's all about scores. I bought an F9 because it performed the best. Don't care about colors and noises whatsoever. I wouldn't even care if it quaked like a duck if I could get extra distance and forgiveness Doesn't cost much to sand blast it and paint it if that is so important. It's the game of golf! You aren't waking up in the morning next to it so why care so much on looks?

[@stevenstewart1308]

@@williebrown1974 for 700 bucks it better look and sound the way I want or I'll spend my money elsewhere. Now the Mizuno is the best looking to me, simple and clean. The F9 in white is second, only because the aero strips this year look bad, should have kept the F8 ones.

[@zacharymilos392]

Flash sounds yuckkkk. Hopefully Callaway makes a Flash 2.0 next year that doesn't sound like an aluminum bat.

[@chriswalt5]

You can always add hot melt of lead tape to change the sound but we shouldn't have to.

[@hayescosby5557]

Why doesn’t he go all the way back on his swing

[@ianfrasergolf]

Hayes Cosby looking for control, he has plenty of speed.

[@stevef4010]

You don't wanna swing from the top anyway. Causes issues. Wide arc is key and swinging through the ball. For me it also messes up my wrist hinge. I hit better with a backswing like Matt, but sometimes slip into old habits and fall apart.

[@chriswalt5]

If the Flash SZ didn't cause hearing loss, it could be the best driver of 2019.

[@zakmichael]

I wonder if Matty’s coach is working on the obvious sway off the ball? I’m not trying to be a dick, but he’s literally moving 6 inches off the ball. It can be worked with, but it creates some timing issues and his strikes are not center everytime. I hate to be that guy, but he needs to work that out.

[@ianfrasergolf]

zakmichael he doesn’t move even close to 6 inches off the ball.

[@cheeks9596]

There is a reason MLB used wood. "aluminum bats" are faster!!!!

[@MJL-91]

M5 crushed theses two as well no 353 drive here

[@blakeg.1093]

I'm confused, who is giving you flack over this? Are you not entertained.....

[@clubchampionmedia]

😆😆

[@CosmicApe]

The Callaway drivers this year have absolutely the worst sound.

[@banditbaker1675]

They sound like a Fart in a Biscuit Tin! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@plus2golfer12]

I bought a M1.. First new driver in 10 years and omg I hate the sound of ALL NEW drivers... Please give me back that high pitch titanium sound...I played college baseball...I love that sound

[@TommyDawson]

Couldn't agree more with you on that!

[@nickmillar3975]

Ts2 is way off line

[@maddad4767]

Flash sounds HORRIFIC

[@hxchip]

MadDad Honestly, sound is definitely a part of why I’ve mostly hit Titleist drivers since my old 983K. I did have a TM R7 SuperQuad for a season, but I can’t seem to get used to others, and they don’t sound or feel right when I demo them.

[@uwrossl]

Everything sounds horrific comp'd to the TS drivers this year. Not saying they are the best or fastest drivers(TS3 is for me) but man they sound so good. Titleist really stepped up with this line after falling behind the rest of the pack.

[@juwadanah]

To much gym Matt, your shoulder turn has reduced. Lost some flexibility. Still striking it beautifully though . Dam son ! lol