Camavinga Is BETTER Than Foden! | Hot Takes

Who was a better football player? Camavinga or Phil Foden? Feel free to get involved in this hot take and many more in the comments below!
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[@Brooks_.]

How can Faysal vouch for Camavinga this hard when Sharky said he literally didn’t include him in his top 10 youngsters😂

[@themohas3243]

If u actually listen to the guy u realise he knows very little. Just brings emotion and "bro stop this" no stats, facts or evidence to back his claims EVER 😂

[@maxwellsplash970]

He forgot

[@shabaansiddiqui7413]

@@themohas3243 exactly they should get him out🤣🤣

[@ckdc2052]

"this is where people's knowledge is exposed, I'm looking forward to this" - FFF

[@sagy835]

It was before games against Chelsea and Man City

[@lungelombatha6110]

This is starting to look like they have an agenda against Shaun, faysal has dead takes and just likes shouting and shushing when he's wrong. Faysal has no ball knowledge I swear

[@lightcase377]

theres no agenda honestly Faysal and Shaun just compete every video who can say the craziest comments

[@Pops0104]

He has ball knowledge it’s just probably because he’s a madridista on every front he’s fighting an uphill battle when arguing for his players so he makes things extreme I’m sure on eye test he knows foden is better than cama no disrespect to cama but see he continuously brings up english tax,prem bias etc

[@whatsmyname2783]

Faysal vs Shaun is the feud we never knew we needed. Elite entertainment.

[@lightcase377]

theyre too funny man

[@MrCrampton94]

2 clowns that don’t know football

[@jamallachmajun9903]

It’s funny to see Faysal say Shaun doesn’t watch LaLiga, when he doesn’t even watch the Bundesliga and still rates Camavinga above Bellingham.

[@T08291]

It's absurd how Faysal tries to give Shaun so much shit considering he literally only watches Real and is biased as hell. Wouldn't surprise me if he thinks Militao is better than VVD

[@philiptaylor284]

The guy is dumb man allways try’s to back track all the dumb shit he says. Kick faysal of the show bro

[@Drago_Gaming10]

True. He's not there to listen to opinions either. He's there to be right.

[@jozef5904]

Tbf shaun biased too

[@Drago_Gaming10]

@@jozef5904 yeah. He is. Delusional at times too😄

[@T08291]

@@Drago_Gaming10 Facts, the Modric isn't even top 25 is a bit much. He often goes a bit extreme with his statements when he goes on the defense. But overall he surely knows ball

[@SteveListerful]

Faisal is jarring. Gives Shaun a hard time yet he's the most biased on the table. Get him benched 💩

[@dannycole1346]

He was being rude af! Shaun weren’t rising to it

[@kas6177]

@@dannycole1346 he dont need to rise to a man child, man litteraly screams and doesn’t let shaun talk 🤣

[@shooosh3799]

@@kas6177 his their to impress his mates 🤣🤣🤣and that rinedi whoever was just bumlicking him the whole time

[@asianwarrior2193]

They’re both as bad as each other

[@saeidhejazi1]

Im starting to doubt faysal's ball knowledge tbh. My guy vouches for every single real madrid player with no obvious reasons. Im a madrid fan and i know camavinga's good but he hasnt played with madrid enough, like how can you choose cama over foden when mans been starting for city for like 3 years.

[@zheechinho844]

@Musi Al Azim and yet now camavinga has left Rennes are still balling the same there are other players that are more important but I’m sure you’ve never heard of them

[@ca4479]

What do you think now

[@hitechj5057]

I love how Sharky bringing up two facts about Faysal completely destroyed his credibility when it comes to ball.

[@mantajssamra3945]

Yeah faysal just a stinker on the pod icl

[@GGM28]

Foden and Camavinga are two different type of players however I would rather have foden than camavinga

[@MM-dx4lx]

Fair but he's not clear

[@isashamraze2425]

Easily

[@abenezeradmassu8455]

Wrong

[@j.m7572]

Depends what kind of playing your looking for

[@Dylan_A526]

Fodens two years older though.

[@Daniel-ro8tq]

How can you compare Camavinga and Foden when they play 2 different roles 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@paramsekhon526]

Tru its like comparing kdb and kante

[@dhknucklestreete1874]

Also two completely incomparable careers.

[@T08291]

Even if you don't take the roles into consideration you can't compare Foden with any talent at this moment

[@fomg199]

Foden is generational future ballon for winner like cmon.

[@littlechungus4909]

@@fomg199 foden wont win a ballon d'or

[@vysyakhajith2510]

If City didn't bottle that semi final we could've prevented this horrific take.

[@durak4733]

There are no ifs in football get over it

[@madarauchiha8975]

We won it this year 💙

[@lucasalaniz76]

Camavinga is not better than Bellingham now, and doesn't have a higher roof than him. Jude has more talent. And Foden doesn't even belong in this conversation, but he's the best English youngster with difference

[@Matt-pi8ew]

camavinga is better than Jude now hands down. He's leading 3 goal comeback In champs while bob is losing in the europa league

[@lucasalaniz76]

@@Matt-pi8ew Jude was better on the UCL last season than Camavinga on this one

[@MarioDaNub]

@@Matt-pi8ew You’re comparing team performances. Individually, Jude has a better season. Dortmund had a lot of injuries, but Jude stayed fit and performed. Camavinga is a great player, but you can’t compare them.

[@OfficialKabrit1]

@@MarioDaNub camavinga better stop it

[@jamallachmajun9903]

@@OfficialKabrit1 Camavinga is not even a starter and the games he started vs good opponents (vs Sevilla for example) he was shocking. I have to see what he does vs fit opponents, and not vs tired legs, to rate him probably. He was not relevant in the comeback vs PSG or Chelsea, although he was really good vs City.

[@owentanner27]

Shaun 8-6 Faisal Am going to watch each take and decide who wins to see who ACTUALLY knows ball. (Point each if they agree) 1st one Shaun 2nd one Faisal 3rd one agreed 4th one Shaun 5th one agreed 6th one agreed 7th one agreed 8th one Shaun 9th one Faisal 10th one Shaun Discussion of Hazard v Neymar almost gives Shaun the whole L though ngl

[@Daniel-ro8tq]

Not really proving who "knows ball" when you're just agreeing with who agress with your views.

[@owentanner27]

@@Daniel-ro8tq nah because I have this condition where I can’t stop spitting facts. If you disagree then I’m open to criticism…

[@haychhh6809]

Ydkb

[@alibarznji2000]

Neymar is on mount Olympus and Hazard is in the underworld, that's the difference. Chelsea fans are crazy lol

[@owentanner27]

@@haychhh6809 how so

[@billyyeah7530]

How anyone can say Shaun has worse ball knowledge than faysal is criminal. Shaun makes controversial takes for shits and gigs but faysal legitimately doesn’t watch any football

[@jachnoavhnvaon]

Neither have them have any credibility

[@jabra_8910]

What is worse? Watching and having zero ball knowledge or not watching and having criminal takes. Shaun literally rates Chelsea players only

[@BhukkasBhibbas]

@@jabra_8910 nah, there's many Chelsea players that he doesn't rate and has said he thinks they aren't good enough. He just rates Mount and James and rightly so.

[@deemoney8869]

@@jabra_8910 he has said plenty of times that Chelsea are shit he really only rates mount and rudiger

[@harveyakaamalaman1299]

It is not fair to be comparing Foden and Camavinga. First of all they play different positions, foden is playing consistently and Camavinga is playing as a rotation player in his first season. Camavinga no doubt has a lot of potential to be one of the best in his position but Foden has been better this season.

[@lightcase377]

Exactly right now its disrespectful to compare the two, Foden starts big games and in the prem this season has been clutch, Camavinga is a squad player right now bought on when the midfielders are tired to just run around

[@kevingallagher1036]

Fodens a rotational player

[@harveyakaamalaman1299]

@@kevingallagher1036 yes he is a rotational player but he has started more games than Camavinga, Foden has started 36 games, Camavinga has started 17 games(16 for Madrid 1 for Rennes)

[@harveyakaamalaman1299]

@Roy Marcell ?

[@NOTORIOUSTET]

Foden hasn’t been good this season lmao

[@llsxmmyll584]

Faysal needs to hold the bench for a few weeks, guy gives me a headache and has an insane Real bias. Give Star or Liban some more game time ffs

[@siphobanda1707]

He's literally the only one on the show that watches other leagues....the rest just vase their opinion on news articles and twitter comments....faiysal is class

[@dagotowka9191]

@@siphobanda1707 you mean he watches real and only real..

[@siphobanda1707]

@@dagotowka9191 nope....he watches prem and la liga .....the rest just watch the prem....if they weren't funny they'd be considered the same level as Tim sherwood

[@dagotowka9191]

@@siphobanda1707 doesn't matter who he watches because his takes are horrible

[@youareasock9752]

Foden is becoming underrated. He is a really versatile player that suits City's system perfectly.

[@De3dSh0t]

underrated? fam people call him the best ever English prospect and future Ballon d'Or winner

[@solarylongshot2390]

No he is extremely overrated.

[@rajkaranvirk7525]

@@De3dSh0t You DON'T, think that he will win at least 1 ballon d'or??

[@GGM28]

@@De3dSh0t he has the potential to definitely

[@GGM28]

Just like camavinga has potential to win the ballon dor but doesn't mean he'll win it

[@Alexandr28k]

"Reece James absolutly dominated that right hand side" - Liverpools LW (Luiz Diaz) gets MOTM against that very RB.

[@alwaleed1414]

Haha what a take

[@yasirsavanur]

I was waiting that someone would comment this. Shaun is the most deluded fella on this channel. Faysal is a close second.

[@rio8266]

U say that and I agree I don’t think he dominated that side….but he didn’t play RB that’s the difference and ppl like u need to watch and understand football more….he was RWB his job wasn’t to defend Diaz it was the RCBs job…Reece James is to support the RCB at time when he can but his main role in that final and in most games is to contribute to Chelsea’s attacking and play almost as a RW to create for Chelsea….ppl act like Reece James played in a back 4 at RB and was right up against Diaz….we saw James at RCB in champs up against vini and we saw what happened vini got pocketed

[@innocoolxdlol]

Diaz actually switched sides

[@innocoolxdlol]

Diaz never eat Reece James 1v1 during the whole match

[@reecec8789]

Did Faysal seriously say Qatar deserves the world cup just to disagree with Shaun? What have they done other than cause the death of over 6000 workers..? this man's a clown

[@SS-lx7ps]

"If you know ball.." He's literally never seen his team play live.

[@mkyuno9232]

I’m not even a Shaun fanboy but I genuinely couldn’t watch this episode at how stupid faysal was being

[@cahalmce]

Faysal says “u don’t watch ball” a lot for a man who supports real and never been to bernabeu in his life 🤣🤣

[@mooseyman12345]

Shaun by far the most ball knowledge. Not even close

[@saisharan5648]

Except when they talk about Liverpool 🤦

[@trentalexander-maguire7813]

rating Hazard over Neymar and Salah destroys any credibility

[@KeoghAndFriends]

I don’t know how Shaun didn’t slap Faycel when he started shushing him….but then he fumbled the bag saying Mount is generational. Foden is clear Mount ain’t even close.

[@billyyeah7530]

Watch when chelsea go through a good run of form next season, they get a good striker and mount starts getting called world class again because his chances created convert to goals. Kids nowadays base 90% of their opinions on goals and assists, fifa stats and don’t even watch 90 minutes of a game in a year. Mount probably is generational, If you watch the guy play off the ball and on it his talent is absurd. If he was In city’s side he would be getting 10 times more praise, equally take Trent out of Liverpool and put him in Chelsea’s side he wouldn’t be getting any praise. His passes would result to nothing.

[@moeswagger2329]

Mount is a baller bro come on. clearly chelsea's best player this season

[@KeoghAndFriends]

@@moeswagger2329 never said mount isn’t good, I rate mount but foden is craaaazy good

[@antoniomattera9569]

@@KeoghAndFriends I’m a cheslea fan and mount is becoming overhated because our strikers can’t finish, and people are waffling about foden being on mbappes level, which is a joke

[@KeoghAndFriends]

@@antoniomattera9569 yeah I’m a city fan and can say I’ve happily never said foden is mbappe level, and I’m not hating on mount just simply saying foden is better!!

[@adityasunil6565]

Bellingham was fantastic in two legs against city in a much shittier team. Camavinga couldn't start over a Kroos who was horrific against city. He looked great off the bench but Bellingham is just better

[@chyanfrancisco4818]

Thank you! Bellingham literally carried that Dortmund side against City and would have taken them through if the referee hadn't blown the whistle too early for an incorrect foul (handball I think was given?). Bellingham is the best teenage box-to-box mid in the world.

[@leskipbayless3280]

Camavinga bossed PSG at 16 years old…

[@abdulkreem1997]

@@chyanfrancisco4818 Ancelotti wouldnt start Bellingham or Camavinga over KMC so it the argument doesn’t stand

[@siphobanda1707]

Jude is at a club that plays youngsters consistently so they are sold for profit ....he'd be lucky to make the Madrid bench in ucl knock out rounds

[@akeemguy7331]

But you acting as if Bellingham would start over Kroos lmao.

[@lightcase377]

Faysal Im going to have to disagree with you on this beginning hot take nah take this L, Camavinga currently does not start games for Madrid hes only bought on for the last few minutes to run around when the midfielders are all tired, when he has started games like against Atletico "a supposed pointless game" which is supposed to be a derby shows how little care fans respect the culture and league he was not good, also he also doesnt start or even is a bench player for France national team, what exactly has he done to even be in the same conversation as Foden right now? If you put any English player with that resume he'd be rightfully called overhyped and overrated

[@deucesttjds313]

So according to your knowledge Foden will bench Vini or Modric? Lol Cama doesn’t get playing time because of the first team players and Foden gets playing time because there’s no competition where he plays.

[@johanneskindtler8601]

@@deucesttjds313 no competition where Foden plays? Are you mad.

[@FollowPrincess]

@@johanneskindtler8601 lool

[@mantajssamra3945]

@@deucesttjds313 wdym sterling and grealish both play on the left and sterling and Jesus can play through the middle both positions where Foden plays

[@jachnoavhnvaon]

@@deucesttjds313 Foden would be rotation with Vini and bench Rodrygo

[@kamalali4068]

definitely agreeing with shaun on this one with camavinga

[@jamespye2936]

never ask a madrid fan how they felt about benzema when he was missing sitters and putting up 5 goals in a league season with that Madrid super team.

[@ericp758]

He was literally close to being a meme

[@madridman5863]

I defended him then and I'll defend him now,for some reason people seem to think Benzema has just become a good player, that's the 2017-2018 where he was missing sitters and underperformed for us (and he still showed up in the ucl against Bayern and liverpool that season) ,he was literally good for us any season other than that,the man was scoring 24,17 league goals and having 20goal and assist seasons,there's a reason why he became the 2nd highest scorer for madrid in 100 less games that the great Raùl and he's also the 3rd highest ucl scorer for a reason,he's been at madrid 13 seasons and has had like 11 great seasons for us. So we don't knock him for having 1-2 bad seasons with us

[@jozef5904]

And even then he was needed just cuz he doesn’t score doesn’t mean he was useless theres still a reason why he still started andthey kept playing him

[@otisinvazion]

They were literally just wrong about him then

[@ericp758]

Look at all the delusional people above me^

[@ultralightpablo]

Faysal was absolutely insufferable, shh shh’s and vibes, mental gymnastics, no ball knowledge, that’s crazy. Zidane had more bookings than goal involvements in 1998 WC and was suspended for 1/3 of their games. But apparently he carried the national team

[@lekzintshering7666]

Their defense carried them in 98.....

[@nomrad_5451]

did u watch it?, i did and zidane was the best player in that tornament

[@ndub415]

he supports madrid man you can't take anything he says seriously

[@ultralightpablo]

@@nomrad_5451 No he wasn’t. R9 was that guy lmao. Blanc and Lizarazu were the standouts for us, we hustled our way through every game except the first 2 and the final. Our defense was just too good

[@kang4950]

Faysal has his own madrid tax. lmao

[@lightcase377]

Madrid fans need to calm down, for years the club heads were twerking for Aguero begging him to come and for multiple other strikers, for years the fans called him mid player he literally had hate for renewing his contract recently but now all of a sudden hes better than Thierry Henry for one single good season? This is like if Pogba stayed for one more year and had a great season for Man utd and fans come out and say hes a better midfielder than Gerrard, we would all look at them as being stupid and reactionary, theres a reason why Messi and Ronaldo are so highly regarded because of their consistency at the top Dont bring trophies talk here, Kroos has more trophies than Zidane, would you say hes better than Zidane with that logic? Tammy Abraham has a UCL trophy, Ronaldo doesnt have one come on man

[@Beinnmillar9832]

The fact that faysal has supported more than 1 teams says it all

[@luanguyen4345]

Did he support Chelsea??

[@samuelkemper800]

Some of my takes: You all disrespect Shaun too much… Triple F don’t know ball. Trophies don’t matter for individual quality, it’s a team sport. Zidane is clear of Modric. The fact that you looked over VVD like shows the lack of ball knowledge. Virgil is different gravy.

[@baileyheydarzadeh7539]

henry as a player is so clear of benzema and camavinga doesnt deserve to be compared to bellingham and pedri. camavinga has had a few good performances and pedri and jude do it every game

[@a.s1232]

this faysal-shaun rivalry is the next messi-ronaldo rivalry

[@kas6177]

NAh faysal just screams and grown ass man screaming and doesn’t let Shaun speak

[@zakihassan8]

@@kas6177 fr man, so hard to watch sometimes

[@rohitsarup3174]

Its hard to really say if players like Mount will be generational talents because I see a lot of similarities between Mount and lets say Asensio and Isco because both of these players were at one point one of the best youngsters in the world and then kinda fell off so most likely only time will tell who is generational and who isnt but at the moment only youngsters that are way better than the others are Mbappe, Haaland and maybe Foden

[@eduardobastos6097]

I never thought about that before but now You said it mount and asensio/isco are really similar players

[@jr7257]

It’s crazy how accurate this comment is now. Mount fell off

[@unitish97]

This Cama love is getting a bit too OTT for me. He needs to first establish himself in the first team and then we can debate. Being good for 30-40 minutes, while Jude, Foden are established in the first team.

[@nicholasstamp2735]

Pep doesn’t get bored. He incrementally changes the tactics his teams employ over time so he doesn’t get found out over the course of the passing seasons.

[@latrellspencer9229]

Found out ? Wtf are you about

[@a1z.064]

Foden is way too disrespected. He gets a lot of game time at Man City who have a stacked stacked squad and is being compared to players like mount. Camavinga is a different type of player to compare him to due to their roles being different but I personally think as a FOOTBALLER foden is better

[@derfussball6697]

Faysal is so annoying to debate with and don’t like how disrespectful he is…. gets too emotional over a football discussion. sharky please tell him to calm down

[@eliasadeola8928]

Pep may not have won the champions league for Bayern. But if you guys really watched the 2014 World Cup, pep was a major major factor in Germany winning that world up. He’s had a major influence on every national team of the country he’s coached in. Talk about Spain 2010 World Cup. Even England reaching the semi finals. ALL DOWN TO PEP’s INFLUENCE. This man is EVOLUTIONARY.

[@ismailibrahim7901]

I dont like how mount is being put down, i dont agree that he is generational talent but he is so good, shaun makes a good point he is constantly putting these beautiful balls into the 18 yard box but these guys cant finish. With a good striker mount will be clear And bringing up lukaku and werner has nothing to do with mount he does his job and provides its not his fault these guys are ass

[@jessepoe1481]

Who else reads ass in Shaun’s voice now

[@jessepoe1481]

“Asse”

[@keirandhillon31]

Noone was putting him down they all agreed he was sick, just not generational

[@ahill8229]

He is gassing mounts numbers but Maddison smokes them this season.

[@bryant3965]

@@ahill8229 no he hasn’t?

[@OCC1219]

I went to Madrid and watched Camavinga the whole time during the Madrid v Levante match and I was blown away. When Shaun talks about watching people IN PERSON, he should take his own advice and do the same for Real Madrid. Cama is amazing, AND he's only 19.

[@ashhabchoudhury7352]

The only flaw in is game is that he does unnecessary foul sometimes but my guy is really good

[@luqmanx3633]

A team that’s already been relegated in La Liga, really? That’s like someone performing really well against Norwich and giving them best youngster shouts come on man

[@OCC1219]

@@luqmanx3633 they were still a La Liga team. Haha. That argument is so dead. Plus they weren’t “already” relegated going into the match.

[@fifabeasts7822]

Lmao Faysal has never been to a Madrid game

[@r.i.psteez929]

@@OCC1219 so is that the first game you went to see him live ? Also how many more times has he had a performance like that ? Matter of fact, how many times has even started ? Lol, Camavinga is good, nobody is denying that, but Foden and Bellingham are clear.

[@AjeetSingh-xq4yb]

Faysal is pure gas. Most of the time just shushing Shaun or asking him "DID YOU SEE THE GAME"/"you don't know ball you only watch the prem". Like the guy but a bit annoying when he's arguing.

[@gorillam6081]

he sucks at arguing 😂 he tries soo hard to defend madrid

[@mark-kq7rc]

@@gorillam6081 Im Chelsea fan, but stop acting like we as prem fans watch other leagues. I barely have time to watch all the top teams in the prem let alone other leagues

[@DarrenSimpson____]

Shaun got a point about benzema tho This big big one season Now it’s boom His the best His past season were okay mediorcore Nice numbers So then why that time wasn’t he in the conversation? Messi Ronaldo out the gates were in the conversation That’s the different levels So shauns point on benzema slightly true

[@yousefehab4883]

His past season was insane the amount of chances he made for vini just to messe them is really big people care just about trophies if benzema played like this season without trophies no won will give a shit

[@ajama7865]

@@yousefehab4883 he has 1 season 25+ goals in the league and its this season he before that he was mediocre in the league

[@yousefehab4883]

@@ajama7865 he could have 3-4 seasons with 30+ goals but he didn't take penalties and give us alot of good assists too when he was with Ronaldo his confidence was low now he is amazing it's sad that he plays with a weak real Madrid in his prime now

[@DarrenSimpson____]

Im not saying benzema is bad guys It’s just that listen to shaun He made a good point though

[@yousefehab4883]

@@DarrenSimpson____ yes I understand stand you and I respect it we real Madrid fans were saying that he is amazing for 3 years and no one gave a shit because we played bad as a team is he better than TT. But he can challenge for it I hope

[@tacticalpresz2645]

I think Faysal is becoming my favourite member now 😭😭😭

[@knutjonsson1816]

faysal is a bum, just starts screaming

[@dagotowka9191]

Most baised opinions on the pod

[@konan37]

Faysals burner account😂

[@deepestquotes_0797]

Shaun is proving he knows ball in this episode.

[@lilithageza5291]

Shauns ball knowledge isn’t the most accurate when he’s out here calling Maddison shit

[@shooosh3799]

@@lilithageza5291 but when it comes to Shaun it’s being biased that’s normal

[@Shanzo1]

Guardiola > Mourinho. The guy rebuilt the Barca side in 08 , got rid of Ronaldinho and Deco, a new style of football that changed the game. We know Guardiola was fortunate to have the GOAT in his team, but why we acting like Mourinho didn’t have Real Madrid Galactico 2.0 and had 0 UCLs with that squad? Mourinho spent just as much money as Guardiola when he managed Chelsea and won 0 UCLs. But we never call Mourinho’s season a flop if he don’t win a UCL. Guardiola could win a domestic treble but because he missed out on a UCL, it’s a failure. That shows you the level between the two guys. The standards of success is different. Atleast Guardiola went to a final recently in ‘21 , Mourinho has yet to be in one since ‘10.

[@mayukhbasu1742]

Benzema has been the top dog in a time where Messi and Ronaldo are ageing albeit still doing well. Henry was by some distance the best player in the world (for a 2 year period , 2002-2004) at a time when Ronaldinho, Zidane, even R9 were at their or close to their peaks. Henry was robbed of a ballon d'or, they gave it to nedved for christ's sake. Benzema over Henry is a shambolic opinion.

[@c20rtn]

Benz might have a better career trophy wise, as a player he can't even lace Henrys boots

[@michaelaguilar5375]

You’re insane. None of those 3 were at their peaks 😂😂 At their peaks they are all 3 top 10 players ever, Henry isn’t near the conversation of top 10. Orem merchants are crazy

[@DarthMaul1]

Henry is so clear of Benzema, it’s not even funny.

[@michaelaguilar5375]

you are actually insane. I’m not surprised since this is an English podcasts comments after all, but take the bias prem goggles off. Go to any other country worldwide and tell them that Henry was better than Dinho & Zidane..

[@DarthMaul1]

@@michaelaguilar5375 Prime Henry is clear of Zidane and Ronaldinho. Prime R9 was probably better, but you could make an argument for Henry.

[@hashmaan7007]

I can’t lie you can’t complain about the team a player plays in for example liverpool played there B team against Southampton and minamino stepped up to win the game but camavinga whenever he starts does not play well and he has had very good impact games off the bench

[@deekayy3222]

One good game and all of a sudden he's better than Foden, kmt

[@lightcase377]

not even one good game, 15 minutes running

[@jmwk05]

Something about Faysal irks me so much. I feel like I would like him a lot but it seems like he’s always playing this character, being aggressive against Shaun and so biased towards Madrid. If he dropped the act and just chilled and was himself he would be such a good guest. Btw Camavinga is definitely talented but Bellingham is better and Foden is EASILY better. The phrase “English tax” has led to English talents being underrated by the people like Faysal.

[@oscarbarriuso3667]

Faysal is biased, but sometimes we have to take a step back and realise that camavinga doesn’t get the same hype in England that Jude and Foden do: camavinga has shown up at the biggest stage in club football and changed the match three knockout comebacks in a row… I am yet to see Foden or Jude do something even remotely close to dragging their team to the final at 19 years of age

[@elianassif9393]

Facts

[@hashim_0720]

He thinks the louder he shouts, more funnier and smarter his argument is. He just shouts loudly at Shaun whenever theres an argument against him. Real Madrid fan who lives in London yaknow and hasn’t been to the stadium once 😭😭

[@gosimolefe1070]

facts i agree, Faysal doesnt like it when Shaun is trying to prove his point, at times hes childish. He even says that Shaun is biased to chelsea players, but he thinks that camavinga is better than bellingham and mount.

[@jmwk05]

@@oscarbarriuso3667 Camavinga not getting the same hype is inevitable within England. Bellingham and Foden are national team members and Foden plays for an English club, of course they’re going to get more recognition. I’m also not saying Camavinga isn’t talented, because he’s supremely talented. Also both Foden and Bellingham have showed up in the champions league and saying Camavinga is “dragging” his team to the finals is super disingenuous because Benzema, Vinny J, Modric, Courtouis (to name a few) have all been playing extremely well too.

[@lucasalaniz76]

It's so cringy that that guy says WE when referring to Real Madrid 😂

[@shhsnsahaha5692]

Fr

[@nathanfranklin1151]

Camavinga has been a bench rotation player for madrid just providing legs when kroos and modric get tired. You can see it in his minutes. Camavinga may have more potential than Bellingham and Foden but Foden is playing at a higher level and Bellingham is the heart of a champions league side at Dortmund. You wouldn't take Camavinga over those 2 today.

[@YukimuraCrimson]

Bellingham was in the Europa league, finished 3rd in the group stages and did not win the EL. I think Camavinga is better than Bellingham, but not Foden.

[@MKsenpai]

Any one playing in Madrid is going to be benched for kroos modric and casimero

[@nathanfranklin1151]

@@YukimuraCrimson 2nd in the bundesliga, was the only really decent player in their Europa League campaign and only went out on Goal difference in the UCL. Camavinga isn't as versatile as Bellingham either. If you think camavinga has had a better season than Bellingham then you haven't watched them equally. You've just seen cama coming on in tired UCL games, where yes he has been good but in the league he's been pretty meh. If he was better than Bellingham he'd be playing alot more over a very ragged kroos.

[@MKsenpai]

@@48youssef31 nah doesn’t matter who he is they are not starting that just a fact

[@nathanfranklin1151]

@@48youssef31 prem is better than la Liga and city play the best football In the world and have done the last 4 years.

[@hahamamma6525]

Wallahi I can’t lie shaun is speaking faxx, this guy faizal don’t know ball, bring this up next video Sharky❤️💪🏽

[@lb61936]

Foden is clear 🤣🤣he’s the first name in the city attack whilst camavinga doesn’t even start. LEVELSS

[@deucesttjds313]

And don’t get this twisted because Foden will also be on the bench at Madrid. Fred starting every game doesn’t make him better than Fede or Cama.

[@siphobanda1707]

Foden isn't the first name 😂 why make stuff up to try and justify a wrong opinion??

[@ColbyMcDowell]

@@siphobanda1707 he’s literally one of the first names after De Bruyne lmao, stfu

[@lb61936]

@@siphobanda1707 he is out of the front 3? I’m not making stuff up you clown. He starts more games then Jesus Foden Sterling mahrez

[@tb3616]

@@lb61936 🤣😂 Sterling is actually first name. He has the most appearances in the this season, and last season. They have the same amount of starts though for this season alone

[@E2JMusic]

Camavinga is not better than Foden. The reality of life is this... you put Foden on that Madrid side and he'll get more minutes than Camvinga will at City. If you're gonna say 'diFFerenT sYstEms' Then put them both at Liverpool, and I bet you Foden gets more minutes... Fodens more versatile, adapts better and has a better work rate... and I'm an Arsenal fan

[@E2JMusic]

As I was backing Shaun... he went on to call Mount generational... why. Mount is not generational. Saka has a higher ceiling

[@jackmonaghan834]

Foden wouldn't get started whatsoever for Liverpool, he isn't effective as a CM and is currently far off our whole front 4. Camavinga would get some game time in our 3rd midfield position, and to clarify I think Foden is currently at a higher level of the 2. But your specific example isnt correct

[@E2JMusic]

@@jackmonaghan834 Foden is versatile and never said he'd start, I said more minutes, so my example is correct. Foden can play on the left, right, up front, cam and BBM... should've read my comment properly

[@ra7671]

Camavinga and foden play different positions tho? foden is more versatile up top while camavinga is more versatile defensively

[@E2JMusic]

@@ra7671 Camavinga cannot play right back, left back and Center back successively… I’m sorry it’s just not as good as when Foden plays on the wings or up front although he’s a CAM by trait

[@curtyb2212]

13mins in and I'm creasing already! This is my favourite football podcast EVER

[@luispelleranonadal2419]

Camavinga has literally had 4-5 good cameo performances this season and they already say this.

[@mantajssamra3945]

Ik faysal doesn’t know ball

[@omzy3670]

Honestly u guys be making great vids 👏 I rly love watching it . Keep up the good work 👏 🙌 👍

[@OddityHQ]

I never ever thought I’d agree with Shaun but Faysal knows absolutely no ball it’s mental he starts yelling when he’s getting done

[@lightcase377]

bruh Im telling you first time in a while Ive agreed with Shaun, both faysal and shaun have alot of stinkers HAHAHA, but today was Faysal L

[@yonzblock5956]

After watchin this video I can say Shaun knows ball

[@Dennis-qz7md]

its been 12 minutes u nonce

[@why_so_sirius]

Mason Mount generational really? The way Shaun talks about him is like this guy is Zinedine Zidane lol

[@subairmoyinoluwa8713]

Don’t mind Shaun. Him doing this doesn’t know he brings more slander to Mount as a Chelsea fan

[@denash1236]

listening to faysal and shaun debate is like watching burnley vs norwich

[@siphobanda1707]

Camavinga is literally a hybrid between Kante and pogba ......if he fulfils he's potential he'll be one of the greatest midfielders of his generation

[@lightcase377]

no one is arguing his potential we all know he could go on to be a great talent, but the convo is about right now

[@AB21]

@@lightcase377 hes 19 playing for the biggest club in the world...behind 2 of the best midfielders of this generation.

[@Cole5555]

Shaun is so entertaining, he’s got me yelling at him on some takes and yelling with him on others. But Foden>Bellingham>Camavinga>Mount

[@TheCamthecoolio]

the only correct list ive seen

[@LCT_7]

😂 Mount last that’s some mental take, Foden in the best team in England can’t hit double figures in goals or assists

[@r.i.psteez929]

Camavinga is last, Mount is also probably ahead of Bellingham lol

[@timilehinakinlabi5091]

Putting mount last is horrid, he’s had the best past 2 years out of all of them

[@ColbyMcDowell]

@@LCT_7 Foden is on 25 G/A this season?

[@LCT_7]

Don’t know what’s more embarrassing the fact that he’s a Real Madrid fan but lives in England or the fact he thinks Camavinga is better than Mount or Foden.

[@celtic69]

He didn’t grow up in England.

[@lightcase377]

I dont think Faysal grew up in England, never in my life have I seen a Madrid fan born in England before, I think hes from France or something

[@LCT_7]

@@lightcase377 Ahh fair enough then

[@celtic69]

@@lightcase377 he’s said before it was a Middle Eastern country (can’t remember which and don’t want to guess) and the only games they televised were Madrid and Barca

[@lightcase377]

@@celtic69 oh okay makes sense then

[@imbored_1235]

Faysal carried this episode ngl

[@captainstar7541]

Faisal needs to calm down then proving his point. Being loud and cussing doesn’t support him claim imo

[@siphobanda1707]

Most of his takes were right though....I'd be cussing out shaun too because he moves goalposts when discussing points

[@ZainAli-st6sh]

I’m not a city fan but foden is the best younger player about

[@kagisela9664]

Sharky needs to talk more, like his ball knowledge, I get he’s trying to be more of a host but I wish he gets more involved

[@noahmohammed6063]

Hes always quiet When his opinion isnt the same as the others. He doesnt like arguing or having an unpopular opinion it seems.

[@ayman2x149]

You guys should do another draft but picking players from national teams instead of clubs

[@thom9484]

A very important aspect in the Pep vs Mourinho debate imo is the way we look at them in 20-30 years time. We will remember Mourinho for the trophies he's won but we will remember Pep for the football he brought us with Barca (and maybe City). Whether you like it or not Football is a sentimental sport where memories are valued highly, Pep gave football fans those memories. Sure fans of Porto, Inter and Chelsea might have better memories of Mourinho's teams but if you're a neutral football fan you'd rate Pep more due to the memories he provided which you have until the day you die.

[@xRenths]

Foden & Camavinga are different players, both generational but Foden has showed more and is miles ahead imo. Also, don’t think Mount is generational, top player but a unique / once in a lifetime, nah, we will see how it is in a couple years.

[@justtheon5903]

When foden was camavingas age he hardly had gametime, players like ryan sessenyon were seen as better

[@siphobanda1707]

Fodeb hasn't shown more....you've seen more because you don't watch other leagues plus camivinga is younger than foden .....if foden wasn't English and born in France he wouldn't mlbe bought by a top club

[@r.i.psteez929]

@@siphobanda1707 Foden has been contributing consistently to arguably the best side in the world. Camavinga can’t even get a starting position in that dreadful midfield. He barely did anything notable with Rennes, getting them into the UCL ? That’s it ? Not even out the group stage. And just cause he did it before foden started playing regularly doesnt mean he did “more”, you can start late and still be better than someone that started before you. Foden is clear.

[@efosaogunbor779]

Neither are generational. If you argue they’re as good as Trent, haaland and mbappe, then fairs

[@siphobanda1707]

@@r.i.psteez929 foden has been playing in a wordclass team ....of course he'd look good....camavinga has had to stand out to get where he is ..... foden wouldn't start at Madrid too so your argument is baseless

[@mariog6552]

Faysal doesn’t know ball. He just screams. And is a Madrid fan from England💀

[@JB-hl5id]

Excellent as usual my East African brother. Love from Ethiopia

[@cameroncorden742]

“You bum” was in pure HD & I’m here for it

[@jmwk05]

Lowkey if I’m Shaun I’m done with this show. They all just like to hate on him and get on his back because he’s the only one who actually speaks his mind. Whether he’s wrong or right he has his opinions and he tries to back them up with facts. All these other guys are just corny and like to centre him out and gang up on him. Sharky is especially bad for it.

[@lightcase377]

I mean theyre friends just here to debate, doubt they take it that serious

[@nickjames1496]

You sound like a sensitive girl bro, that's why your not on the show.

[@ianmunguti5513]

Imagine comparing Foden to Camavinga😂😂😂Real won but City were clearly a better team and Foden starts for us while Camavibga doesn't start for Real.Foden has huge performances in the UCL quarter and semi last season.He usually has good games against Liverpool and also starts for the better team.Camavinga is mid and just came on when almost everyone was tired. If he starts in the pool game in the final liverpool will have a field day with that midfield

[@jozef5904]

If foden plays on the right wing then he plays , he wouldn’t sniff the left wing or centre forward or take modric or kroos’s place

[@ADTYG02]

Realistically the comparison makes absolutely no sense since you guys don’t use Foden as a box to box CM😂 they should’ve compared our two young star boy forwards of Vini and Foden since they’re both 21 but we both know who wins that 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@ianmunguti5513]

You need to relax.Vini has been ass for years and last season your own player was saying he's playing against your team. Foden has been performing for years and not just this season

[@ADTYG02]

@@ianmunguti5513 Vini got thrown to the LW spot immediately at 18 after RONALDO left. Foden was handled well by Pep because he had a stacked squad and was able to slowly integrate him. They’ve had different starts at the highest level but I don’t see Foden producing 41 g/a and being the highest assister in the UCL this season 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

[@ianmunguti5513]

Point remains that he has been ass for years and one season doesn't change that.Foden has been doing that for years and he plays in the harder league.Let him do it again next season then we can talk.Whenever he has been marked by good defenders such as Reece,Walker and Hakimi he ghosted😂

[@nadernassr6636]

one of your best videos yet bro keep it up!

[@dailyafcontent_]

Could've done Ancelloti is the most underrated manager of all time?

[@melmeister-4747]

That's a fair shout tbh. If Camavinga was English and he's there playing for Real Madrid as a teenager he'd definitely been seen as the generational talent starboy.

[@lightcase377]

Foden was a teenager playing for Man city

[@abdi_yahsan111]

At this point I see Faysal and I click.

[@KMax246]

As a Chelsea fan, mount us not generational. A generational player is one or two in a generation. Mbappe, Trent, Haaland are generational players. You don't have to be generational to be worldclass.

[@nashjazear581]

Faysal argument to Pep Bayern is the same argument you can apply to Jose Real. Remember when Jose inherited Galactico 2.0 squad which is the biggest spending spree world football at the time before PSG Neymar's summer. He was handed a squad that was already made to win the UCL but just reached the semis which is the same situation with Pep in Bayern.

[@cameronroberts9998]

How on earth can he say Camavinga is better than Foden🤣

[@AB21]

you cant even compare them but at their positions they are on the same level.

[@wilson278]

Faysal is right about Pep and Mou. Mourinho is the better manager all time. Pep will never do what Jose did with Inter and Porto.

[@th3kinghav0c22]

Pep won the sextuple, what did mourinho win with Madrid ?

[@TheMasterhunter2010]

@@th3kinghav0c22 Jose won the treble twice with 2 clubs and won chelsea there first title then won back to back what does the sextuple have to do with anything

[@ashubrandon9738]

And mou wouldn't do what pep did with barça

[@ashubrandon9738]

@@TheMasterhunter2010 6trophies how many teams have u seen do dat?

[@TheMasterhunter2010]

@@ashubrandon9738 Pep wouldn't do what Jose did with porto or inter what's your point and btw we have seen Jose succeed with top rich clubs and with smaller ones we have seen pep succeed only with top clubs so I think peak Jose is alot more likely to succeed with barca than pep is with Porto or Inter

[@T08291]

I really like Ren, so calm, collective and gives fair opinions. He should be there more often

[@jaypitchford9497]

It’s sad because on this pod Shaun is the only one who is talking like he knows ball the others are deluded I’m not a chelsea fan far from it but mason is clear and is gonna be playing at top level for years and years to come

[@joshdawson5850]

Would love to see ‘Becker is the best GK since World Cup Nueur’ as a take

[@nolpan9708]

Facts

[@lightcase377]

not even a debate though, he is

[@FollowPrincess]

@@lightcase377 he isn't

[@JohnHolywell]

De Gea at United under Mourinho? They were a one man team! He carried that team for years! Got them to second in the league, Europa League, League Cup and Community Shield! They would be mid table without him. Watch when he leaves you'll see what happens. Alison is a top keeper but he doesn't get tested enough for me. Same as why him and VVD are over rated. We'll see in the UCL final and world cup when they actually gets tested against good teams and not Norwich, Watford and Brentford.

[@lightcase377]

@@JohnHolywell very poor goalkeeper

[@captainstar7541]

Sorry Shaun, I support Chelsea too but after the description from sharky. He’s a world class player but isn’t generational.

[@shawnmaringer5009]

I wouldn’t say world class

[@shawnmaringer5009]

He doesn’t start for city , Liverpool madrid , Bayern

[@trentalexander-maguire7813]

he's neither. Both terms are used way too liberally.

[@michaelcampbell6497]

FFF just thinks because he's louder than everyone else, he's winning the argument

[@daniyaalhussain7593]

Best football podcast good debates and great banter good job sharks

[@samarthmagan3698]

Faysal saying to shaun he doesn't know ball when he's even more deluded

[@captainstar7541]

The amount of hate Mason Mount gets is unbelievable. His stats this season alone as been top tier in a depleted Chelsea team. I agree, Saka is great but he is overrated. Wait till he’s shown his talent on the biggest stages for club as well as country. He has a mad ceiling range, let him develop -

[@007Fusiion]

Mount is basic. Even if he got 20 goals and assists, I’d still not be convinced by him.

[@savagejama6501]

Mount hasn’t been better this year then last year even with his stats

[@EditsOP22]

Big up sharky, day1 fan from Australia 🙏🙏

[@tbr306]

I really like the arguments and the kinda „battles“ between shaun and faisal. But for me, it got a bit too big of a part of the show.. i dont know if you guys talk about this stuff, but i think it would be better if you sprinkle these kinda debates more in than it being half of the show. All love ❤️

[@haashimnisar431]

Sean is so right about Bellingham, these guys really lack knowledge when it comes to german football. Bellingham runs that midfield as a consistent starter and standout star player. CL performances especially against city were amazing.

[@princeofsomalia1231]

He ain’t better than camavinga

[@haashimnisar431]

@@princeofsomalia1231 At what

[@princeofsomalia1231]

@@haashimnisar431 dribbling, passing, ball control, tackling, anything to be honest. Bellingham is a good player but he’s doing it in the German league. Camavinga is changing games in the champions league against teams like Man City, chelsea, and PSG. He’s just at a higher level.

[@haashimnisar431]

@@princeofsomalia1231 Camavinga comes on as a sub. His performance as a starter have stunk. Additionally Bellingham started both city legs and put on a performance better than any of camavingas. German league bad? Didn’t 11th place eintracht slap barca and win europa league?

[@princeofsomalia1231]

@@haashimnisar431 and hes changed most games he’s come on in? It’s also less pressure playing for dortmund then playing for Real Madrid. The German league is the worst in the top 5 leagues it’s awful. Frankfurt couldn’t even beat rangers in normal time and rangers wouldn’t stay in the premier league.

[@Deergod9]

Pep is such a good manager that the only thing people can say is wrong with him is that he’s not winning every trophy he’s in, we won’t appreciate how great he is till he’s gone I think

[@manlikejash4516]

this faysal shaun rivalry is elite man. faysal should be here everytime

[@Kakhsa]

I think of the players discussed, I think only Pedri, Bellingham, and Foden are truly generational (excluding Mbappe and Haaland because they speak for themselves). The only comparison we have for Pedri is Iniesta, one of the greatest midfielders ever. Bellingham, at such a young age is such a complete midfielder. and he has a quality about his game that I haven't seen in English midfielders. He is a Swiss Army knife, a bit reminiscent of a Clarence Seedorf. Foden is also unlike any English player before him. England have only recently been producing these classy playmaker type players and Foden is the cream of the crop in that regard. All the other players are really outstanding but them three are truly generational talents.